Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WIKA f Daily with Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Brooklyn Bunker. Folks, I want to start off by saying that I am going to be taking the next couple of days off, but do not worry and do not despair, because we have a bunch of really timely interviews stacked up for you for the rest of the week, and I will
be returning back live ish on Tuesday. But coming up in the next couple of days that I am taking some time off, we have our normal weekly conversation with our friend doctor Jonathan Metzel. We have a couple of interviews with some folks that you know and love, like Kurt Bardela and Danielle Campamore, as well as our friend the Reverend Mark Thompson from Make It Plain and Leslie Mack, communications director for the front Line coming up in the
next couple of days. And so I want to start off friends with obviously the major breaking news that broke earlier this week with regard to Donald Trump and his home and Mara Lago being searched by the FBI. This
is what I want to say about that. First of all, it is apparent that Republicans continue to not give a fuck about the legal system, about justice, about accountability, about politics as usual, about democracy, about any of those things, because the series of tweets that have come out from people like Kevin McCarthy, Ted Cruz and others that essentially are putting the Department of Justice and Democrats on notice that they plan on when and if they take back
the House in midterm elections, to open up a series of investigations into Merrick Garland, into investigation, into an investigation. And what I have to remind folks and remind Democrats or that the Republicans are a rabid fucking cult, right,
they are a white supremist, anti democratic, fascist cult. And if we do not continue to call out the violence that they speak of, if we do not continue to call out their anti democratic sentiments and just allow it to be casually just business as usual, we are going
to find ourselves in major fucking trouble. As if we're not already in major fucking trouble now, you would think that I would be jumping up and down about the fact that the FBI had, you know, was able to obtain a warrant and searchie Donald Trump's home, to be honest, until we find out what the contents of that search was, what the contents of the warrant was, I am not
going to count my chickens before they hatch. I am not going to pretend that this is going to automatically turn into a series of indictments and that we are going to see those that our treasonists have waged treason misbehavior against this country, that they're actually going to be
held accountable. What I will say is that contrary to Republican belief and even some of the fucking talking points that I'm hearing push back from Democrats, which are literally uttering Donald Trump's own talking points as if we've learned nothing over the last six years, is that one the only way for the FBI to have attained a warrant to search Donald Trump's property is by probable cause, and probable cause is more than suspicion, right. It is having to go to a judge and say that there is
evidence of criminal activity. And the only way for us to be able to confirm right that there is criminal activity is for us to be able to search the property. And once we are able to then search and either come up to the conclusion that nothing was found or that exactly what it was that we were looking for
was found. So this is not a willy nilly just oh, we've been sitting around for the last eighteen nineteen months and now all of a sudden, the Department of Justice and the FBI has turned into some type of political strong arm. That is not the case. How do we know that because I myself have been on this show and other people's shows calling out Merritt Garland's glacial fucking pace right as it pertains to holding Donald Trump to account.
We understand right that this is an unprecedented time, it's an unprecedented search. But what's not being followed up by the media that this was an unprecedented fucking president who was a criminal. It is not just like we didn't like Donald Trump so now he's being investigated on all of these fronts. It's that, No, Donald Trump is a known fucking criminal that has had multiple lawsuits against him over his entire career, none of which have stuck, which
is why they referred to him as teflon Don. And now he took that criming ass behavior to the White House right and thought that he had insulated himself enough with enough sycophants and enough people in different agencies to do his bidding that he never thought for an instance that he would ever face anybody in windbreakers at his front doorstep, which he didn't because he was in fucking
New York, right. And why was Donald Trump in New York, Oh, because his appeal against the New York Age's insistence on him testifying before her in her fucking legal search of a civil suit against Donald Trump and the Trump organization. Right. So there's just so many things that are going on, and it isn't like the Republicans pursuit of Hillary Clinton for Benghazi or her emails or Hunter Biden's laptop. Right, there is actual evidence broad out in the fucking open
evidence of Donald Trump's criming. But what we know is that Republicans don't care, right, They want to weaponize any agencies against people who have alternative ideologies and thoughts, meaning those that believe in democracy they see as antipatriotic, and those that are pro fucking orbon and Putin and Donald Trump are the real patriots. That's the fucking Earth two that they live on. So what I want people to recognize is that this was indeed a major step by
the FBI and the Department of Justice. But let's be clear that the other conversation that is being had that I feel like it's not getting the kind of attention that it should is the fact that people are very fearful right that Donald Trump will once again weaponize his white supremacist militia against the government the way he did on January sixth, that all of instantly, what was coming out of the tweets from the right wing, from the fascist right wing, our talks about a civil war, or
talks about violent, or talks about shoot him up, or talks about lock and load, right, because these people are in fact itching for the opportunity to kill as many people as they can. And the fact is is that we are just not talking about this with the measure of fucking like alarm bells that we should. This type of language should not be shrugged off as this is just you know, politics as usual. It is not. Donald
Trump has poisoned the well of our democracy. He did so six years ago, and he has never let up. And the fact is is that all of these people who at one time six years ago had half a working brain, have all become trump is bots, and they are willing to do whatever it takes in order to
keep Donald Trump in power as their king. And so if that means having an all out onslaught, if they were to regain the gavels for mid terms against Democrats and creating political prisoners of the people that they do not like, that is what we are going to see and that is what they are telling us, right. So what did maya Angelous say? When people show you who
they are? Believe them right, Republicans consistently continue to tell us who they are, continue to tell us who they bow to, right, who they are in service to, and it is not the American people, It is Donald Trump. One of the questions that I asked this week on Twitter, however, is this given the fact that we saw Kansas, a conservative state, come out right and say absolutely not to
a ban on abortion in their state. With these reactions now around Donald Trump being under investigation, which we already know but now finally being quote unquote searched, right, our Republican women who came out in Kansas, our Republican women across the nation going to decide that going to bat for Donald Trump is more important than going to bat
for their bodily autonomy. Is it going to be the decision that, oh my god, they've gone after my king, my man, the pussy grabber in chief, that they would rather go to the polls and pull a slot for Republicans so that they can stand by their man. Right. So that's the real question, because people are saying on the news that, oh my god, this comes as such
a bad timing for Democrats. And I'm saying, why Democrats have just passed an onslaught a fucking legislation that we have not seen in this country in twenty and thirty some odd goddamn years, And they did so while right our intelligence agencies we're doing their job. You see, the intelligence agencies not working in fucking tandem like they did on the Trump administration, with this White House and with Congress.
Is exactly how government is supposed to fucking work. So Democrats are able to get things done for the American people while our intelligence agencies are making sure the people, all people, including the former president of the United States,
are following the law. If I'm a Democrat right now and I got a microphone in front of my face and I'm running for reelection right, I'm saying Democrats are showing proof is in the pudding that we can walk and chew gum at the same time that we can deliver for the American people in terms of climate change, inflation reduction, jobs reports, in terms of being able to combat some of the serious issues in this country while also holding a former fucking criminal ass president accountable. I
don't understand what wouldn't make that a winning message. It isn't about one or the other. It's the fact that you have an entire Republican party that does not give a fuck about the American people, that does not give a fuck about offering up any policies or any legislations that are about giving something to the American people. The only thing that Republicans are interested in is taking things
away from the American people. Whether it is their ability to collectively bargain, whether it is their ability to afford healthcare, whether it is their ability to have bodily autonomy, whether it is their ability to vote, whether it is their
ability to breathe fresh air and drink clean water. Everything that Republicans do is taking away something as opposed to offering it up, and that to me is the clear message that Democrats need to be pounding into the American consciousness from now until midterm elections and fucking beyond because the threat, dear friends, is not going to be over because midterm elections is over. These people are out for
blood and I mean that fucking literally. So if we are not paying attention to what they are saying out loud, then once again we are going to be caught off guard and unprepared for what is coming next. And I am telling you that my feeling in my gut right now is that violence is imminent and people need to
be prepared for that. Coming up next my conversation with our good friend, our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, who will talk about this issue and what he is seeing and hearing as it pertains to the escalation of white domestic terrorism in this country, as well as bring us up to date with where we are with not one, not two, but the three viruses that are dangerous and
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you get your podcast New episodes every Tuesday. Folks, you know that whenever I have the opportunity to speak each and every week with our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, I am always thrilled. I am even more so thrilled this week because my god, folks, something miraculous has happened, and it is I don't know if hell has frozen over, but Donald Trump's Moral Lago residence was in fact searched
by the FBI. Will not be using the word raided, which is his language that the media then repeated over and over again that they raided him and they broke
in to his safe. No, the FBI gets a warrant from a judge and they have to show what is the word probable cause in order for them to be able to enter into anyone's residence, including a former president of the United States Jonathan As the narratives started to play out and again this was, you know, major breaking news, and there's no there is no blueprint for this is what is happening, and there hasn't been a blueprint for what has been happening in America over the last couple
of years that you and I have been engaging in conversation.
But I want to say that as people were starting to recognize the gravity of the situation, there were several commentators who made reference to the fact that they were concerned about what Donald Trump supporters were going to do in response to the FBI searching Mara Lago, particularly being concerned that Donald Trump would once again weaponize the white supremacist organizations that he had sent to Capitol Hill to go and hang his vice president, now turn around and
pose another threat to the government. Jonathan, The way that the conversation was happening, though on cable news made it seem like it was kind of like a shrug event. And to me, we're talking about a former president of the United States gathering his own militia once again in order to turn it on the government. So, you know, you get into the minds of these people and have
over the past several years. And I want to know what you make of that narrative of that response that this is where we are as a country, that we are concerned about this man who we now know wanted his generals because General Millie has a new book out, as everybody does, that comes out of the Trump administration talking about the fact that he wanted his generals to
act like why can't my generals act like Hitler's generals? Right, And again, we're talking about this in a very to me, in a very dismissive way, as opposed to we're at a five alarm emergency. So what did you what have you been making of their responses to this search by the FBI. I mean, it's such an evolving story, you know, as we filmed this, and so I think the main issue, I'm certainly there were threatening tweets and messages coming out
yesterday across the kind of oathkeeper style spectrum. And there were also threatening tweets coming out from the NRA official NRA site and from people invoking the ruined case, the Supreme Court case about about weapons, and so there were some pretty real threats that were going around last night. And I think really the story for me, I don't know. I could easily be wrong about this. I'm not that worried relatively speaking about the Oathkeepers taking over the country.
Maybe there'll be something horrible that happened, will happen, and that seems I just think possibility. But I mean, I think for me, the bigger concern is that they make Trump into a sympathetic figure, which will impact a lot more people than just people who are in extremist groups. And so I think that really for me, the question is what are they going to uncover and what are they uncovering from all this, and we don't know that
right now. If it's al Capone's vault, or if it's something that's just technical and doesn't make emotional sense to people, then I think it plays into the narrative that Trump has been using all along, about the narrative of racial resentment and victimhood. And you know, once he pretty recently go he said I'm like the most oppressed person in the country or something like that, And so I think that's going to be the thing, is what's the story
based on what they find. But if it's some slam dunk thing that people can understand, oh, yeah, this dude broke the law, then I think it's a different story. So I think it's really honestly TVD right now. But I do think there's obviously a risk in this that they basically rally everyone around Trump, or Trump gets in you convicted of something that is a kind of minor issue in terms of how people understand it, like oh,
he just took some papers or something like that. It paves the way for just santists, but Trump remains a powerful sympathetic figure. So I think there's a major political story that's going to come out of this that will impact the elections, It will impact the work of the January sixth Committee, It will impact any possible collaboration on other things that are pending before Congress, like marriage equality
and all these factors. And so I think that right now, there's just there's there's so many variables from this, and let's just hope that somebody really, really really thought this through and that there is some kind of slam dunk evidence that's going to come out of this, which I think will make things a lot more It'll it'll make a lot more sense to people. But I don't know
is that sense also? Yeah? But but yeah, because here's my thing is that, like this, this has been my problem with the Department of Justice, the FBI, and all of the our like security agencies, is that I think that they have been too cautious. I think that they
have been too slow. Right that if anyone else in this country, even if it was another political figure, namely Hillary Clinton and her emails that were investigated over and over again, and then right before the presidential election of twenty sixteen, James call me announces, Oh, we're opening up another investigation, right, Like that's Okay, that witch hunt, that clear witch hunt, it's totally find to do over and over again, which clearly harmed her political chances of becoming
president because of how close to the November election that that action took place. And so for people that were already against Hillary Clinton, all that gave them was another excuse. Here we have a situation where Donald Trump, we didn't even know when the FBI entered Mara Lago what case we were talking about, right, because that's how many investigations
that Donald Trump is under. Right, And so the fact to me that you had the minority leader, the you know, the minority Speaker of the House, Kevin McCarthy, openly threatening Merritt Garland on social media on Twitter saying that you better have your papers in order and you better clear your schedule. It's like, so, what is your response here, Just that everyone that is a Republican is above the law.
No one gets to be prosecuted for anything because if they are, if there's even a hint of accountability or responsibility, then it's a witch hunt. And so I ask you, like there, to me, there's no way to win over that twenty five thirty percent of the population that like
sees Donald Trump as a martyr and a god. Right, So are we trying to appeal to those people and think that any evidence that was going to be found or is going to be found and announced is going to be enough for these people not to think that Donald Trump isn't a martyr. Again, it really depends what the story that comes out of this is. I mean,
it's such a such a central tenant. I mean, obviously it's ironic because in twenty sixteen Trump wrote to Power on lock her Up, Lock her Up, but also illegally exposed documents on email, like it's exactly exactly the same issue. Possibly and and but I mean that's such a tenant of that of that thought is mistrust of the government, weaponizing of the government, all those things. And so in a way, it's just it's just gonna it's gonna strike so deep in terms of just the anxiety of like
liberals turning the government against us. The government is biased, the FBI is biased, all those kind of things, and so you know, if they have a slam dunk case, if this has been signed off on by people up top and bottom, and this is something that is really big, our whole conversation changes, right, Um, but I can't imagine, I mean, to be honest, I can't imagine that it's not I can't imagine that Donald Trump took documents that
were supposed to be part of the National Archives, right anything, like there's no blaming of this. Oh, I had no idea, sir that that box was you know, in my in my safe that you need a fingerprint for, you know, like, so it isn't and this is something. This is twenty twenty two. He took those documents, you know, January twenty twenty one when he left the White House. So I can't imagine that they wait this incredible amount of time and they haven't crossed every tea and dotted every eye.
I'm sure that's right. I'm sure that's right. I'm yeah, I'm sure that's right. I mean, and again, it's just m But I guess the question, Jonathan is do you believe just given everything that we know right now, We know that we will find out more as the week's turn into months with regard to what was the source of this of this warrant, But do you feel that violence is inevitable given what is transpiring, given just how hopped up on lies and weaponry. Donald Trump's following is
that regardless, violence is inevitable. I mean there were direct there was people were just directly saying it last night. So I mean the NRA was saying it, and so, um, you know, just the people were saying on Twitter, this is going to lead to the next civil war, this is going to need to the next interaction. So it's not even what I think. People were directly threatening that last night on social media or very clearly implying it. And so I do think, of course, the risk is
is very very very high. How they play this right now is going to be really the utmost importance, which of course they know, of course they know. Um. But again I think that the other issue is going to be this is this is a week where Biden the Democrats had just passed like the you know, their science signature. Yeah, and and the fact that Bidenen apparently didn't know about this raid and that so the timing here is not great for the Democrats, I'll say. But see, I disagree, Yeah,
I actually disagree, and I'll tell you why. Because the Republican narrative has always been that this is a witch hunt and nothing else is getting done for the American people because the entire attention of the Democratic Party has been about taking down Donald Trump. And here is a clear example of the fact that no, no right government actually can work and we can walk and chew gum at the same time, we can work on behalf of the American people and have our security and justice agencies
be doing their work right. So I think that if you are, if the Democrats are smart, right, they can continue to focus on their monumental achievements that are being signed into law this week and saying like we're continuing to work for the American people while our agencies that were hollowed out by the Trump administration are doing their work right. We have two parallels. But let me just say I of course completely truth and and again I
also think people who broke the law should be finished. Um. You know, just like I agree, what a crazy idea. I know it's nuts. Um. But but but but I would say that for me Again, I'll let me just articulate the two caveats I'm going to give, which is why it's so important, what the purpose of this is, How they how they talk about it, how they message it. Um, beyond just the obviously, you know, I agree like people no matter what they say, Um, you know, they could
they could. There are many unsolved cases they could find it is safe and it still wouldn't make any difference. Um. But but I would say that the two points are number one. I mean, think about what's happened over the last couple of months, Like the Wall Street Journal came out against Trump, the New York Post came out against Trump. Trump had become a liability for many relatively centrist within
the context of GOP politics um um voices. And so the question is, are those people is being anti Trump all of a sudden begin to become intenable. You're going to push those people back towards seeing Trump as a sympathetic character or will this be like, oh man, there's another example of why we can't have Trump as president. So I think that's really issue number one as far as as far as how I see it. A number two. The Democrats have their rallying cry right abortion has been
I mean, this Indiana thing is atrocious. It's it's it's beyond atrocious. And so the rallying cry of women are going to come out to vote and you kick the wrong, hornessness and all those kind of things. Will this become the GOP's version of the rally the troops to the polls that counters that, And so for those are the two bigger caveats that I'm thinking about. And again it really matters what they found and how they articulated, and so this is still playing out. But for me, those
are my two areas of concern. Yeah, and I think that I would, you know, with regard to Indiana and these other states that are following suit with the most egregious and disgusting anti abortion laws, that I don't think that the grievances of one man is going to trump women and people with uterusists not having bodily autonomy. I don't think GOP women are going to be like, oh my god, you know what I care most about Donald Trump, you know, being like the end all be all for
the for the Republican Party. And it doesn't matter that I can't access an abortion or my daughter or my son's right. Who are you know who who are involved in situations that require them? And so I just don't see in my opinion, and again, we will watch this play out that people's own right issue bodily autotomy, freedom and liberty is literally pun intended going to Trump. What is happening personally to Donald Trump with his criminal activity as we get to the polls switching gears. I mean,
I agree with you. They just it's just like there are so many different logics that play. I mean, I don't know if you saw a sepack like the guy in the fake present cage, the guy in the fake presit cage doing the kind of performance art of like sympathy for the January six people, and turned out that guy the artist himself, I think it's from me. Yeah, he was. Now these are the orition he turned state's evidence against others. Yeah, So, so I don't think like
the logical stream is totally at play here. So I again, I just think, I just think that the narrative is the fight now is over the narrative of this and so, and I think that's super important. That my point is not to counter what you're saying. Obviously, oh yeah, I got it, But I think the fight now is over the narrative. And that's why I think it's it's so important not only that they had the goods, but that the narrative they're going to tell now is something that
is understandable to people. Um, okay, switching gears with a few minutes that we have a left, want to provide an update on where we are with the bio viral attacks that are happening in this country the weirdest damn time, man. I mean, it's so I tweeted this last night and I was just like, we are living in it. Like now, I understand when people say the phrase extraordinary times, because this is I feel, this is. This has got a cap every other moment in history. This has got a
cap World War two. I mean, there's just so much going on. I wouldn't want ever to be president of the United States during this time. But here we have now not only COVID, not only monkey pox, which whose initial narrative just completely botched the response to how we
should have been talking about monkey pox. And thank you Jonathan for last week making the case that yeah, this is actually moving more like smallpox, like an STD, which is how the media and you know, and other initial reportings were coming out that it's like, oh no, this is in the gay mail community, so no one else needs to be concerned. And you're like, mm, but if you're using a blanket or a shirt, or putting your arm on surfaces that were touched, like, that's not sex,
but that's close contact. Or kids in daycare or kids in daycare or college campuses, as you had brought up as well last week. Now it's nineteen fifty and we got polio that is making its way back, Jonathan, how how does that happen? Well, we human progresses is not linear. Turns out, we defeated smallpox, we defeated polio. It was it was like landing a man on the moon, right, but he had two polio vaccines um a tenuated vaccine, a live vaccine, oral injectable. It was like the race
to put the first man on the moon. And there were there were you know, the Salk vaccine, the saving vaccine, Like we we won that fight. It was it was a moment for the victory of science and the victory
of American ingenuity and the victory of public health. And what you do is then you vaccinate people, and it's super effective when you vaccinate people against an illness that was just a catastrophe for so many people, not only because it's potentially lethal, but because when it wasn't lethal, it impacted your motor function for the rest of your life. M But when you don't get vaccinated, you don't have that protection. And so the question is why aren't why
aren't people getting vaccinated? And believe it or not, it's not just an American story and fact. When I first heard about this with concern, it was happening in the Middle East about four or five months ago, where Israel scrambled because people of very low socioeconomic status we're having polio, which was unheard of, unheard of, But it turned out they didn't have access to healthcare or to immunization. It wasn't just that they were like rapid anti vaxers, it's
that they didn't have potential healthcare. And it's the same story here in the United States that we're going to see people who don't have access to healthcare, who can't afford it, who don't have a clinic or something like that. There are apparently hundreds or more cases in New York, in the state of New York, and so this is
not just going to be a red blue thing. But when people don't have healthcare and they don't get immunized according to schedule this is the story, and so it's a symptom of a bigger collapse of our healthcare system, and particularly of our preventative healthcare system. And unfortunately, I think this story is just going to grow because our system is overwhelmed, it's ineffective, there's so much mistrust right now anyway, But this is a this is a flashing, flashing,
flashing red flag because this really should not happen. Well, let me ask you this too. Didn't we stop immune and immunizing people against polio because we thought that it was eradicated. Like I'm trying to figure out whether or not I was vaccinated for polio. Yeah I was, okay, Yeah, No, The thing is we stopped. We stopped because there's there's still more pollio around. But we're gonna have to scramble
scramble that front. Smallpox is another thing to keep in mind, right, we stopped I think in nineteen seventy three, I think, or sometime around then for smallpox because there was no more smallpox. But it turned out people like me who got the smallpox vaccine when I was a kid, because there still was the potent, so had some immunity. But we're gonna We're gonna have to go back to that regiment.
I mean, unfortunately, the issue is think about how we got there, right, We had tents all over the country and nurses and healthcare everything, and it was a national thing, and everybody was like showing their arm after getting vaccinated stuff like that, like kind of like it was in the beginning with COVID when the first set a vaccine. But to stop this thing, you're going to need a similar level of investment and I don't see that happening right now. We can't even pass funding to get the
next COVID vaccine. So this is a this is a moment, you know, Honestly, I agree that this is a moment. Yeah, I don't even know. I wanted to leave on a good note, but I can't think of one. Um, well, it's it's funny, you know. It's funny to say that, because like I don't know if it's me everybody else, but like I do Twitter a lot, and like every
other tweet now is some funny story with animals. Are you getting that also or is it just like maybe because I started clicking on it because I'm like, oh, look at that cute little panda who can like play tic tac toe or something like that. But but I am getting a lot of cheerful animal videos on my Twitter feed, so it's like doom death, doom death. Oh that dog knows how to use an ATM. How cute, you know, something like that. So yeah, everyone needs to
have some ballet during these times. As always, doctor Jonathan Mets, so we appreciate you, and you know, God knows what virus will be talking about next week, but you know, we'll just roll the dice. I'm looking forward to it. That is it for me today, Dear friends on Woke a app as always, power to the people and to all of the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck. Get a behind the scenes look at Comedy Central's The Daily Show on Beyond the Scenes, an original
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