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Queer Youth Are the Future

Nov 29, 202228 minSeason 3Ep. 346
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Chloe L. is today's guest from the It Gets Better Youth Summit, and they discuss with Danielle what it's like to be a queer teenager living in North Carolina in the midst of a pandemic.

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Good morning peeps in Welcome to Wika f Daily with Meet your Girl Danielle Moody once again recording from the home Bunker. Folks, you know, I know that the news has beaten this story to death, but I can't help

but discuss it on here. Over the holiday weekend, Donald Trump found himself dining with a known white supremist, white nationalist, anti Semite named Nick Fuentes, along with Kanye West, and the media spin out from this over the last couple of days has allowed us once again to believe that Donald Trump is both a genius businessman can do no wrong, and yet a bumbling fucking idiot and doesn't know who is coming to his home in Mara Lago because Donald Trump,

when brought the evidence to his face, who Nick Fentes is, what he stands for, what he has said, what events he has spoken at, Donald Trump is, oh, well, he was nice to me, so I guess it doesn't matter that he's not so nice to black people, or Jewish people, or Muslim people or women at that right, because he's also one of those fucking in cell misogynist like bullshit guys that Donald Trump loves to pal around with, like

an Elon Musk I digress. But Donald Trump is been able to say, and the media has said, well, he didn't know who he was dining with. Well, there are a couple of things that are wrong with that sentiment. Number one, you can't both have people believe that you were a genius and also a fucking idiot, right, because this has been the normal pattern with Donald Trump. Oh he doesn't know any better. Oh he had no idea. Oh he minced up his words. Oh he didn't mean

to say that. Let me remind you that the man is seventy fucking something years old. Okay, he is not an adolescent. He is not a toddler. He's not a fucking child. So this perpetual, like you know, naivete that we want to have around who Donald Trump is and what he should know. The man was the former president of the United States. Let's stop treating this motherfucker with kid gloves. Let's stop giving Donald Trump the benefit of

the doubt, which he ran out of fucking years ago. Okay, when he came down the escalator calling Mexicans rapists and murderers, right when he said that he could grab a woman by the pussy because he's a star, and when they're a star, they'll let you do it. A man who has multiple sexual assault cases that have been brought against him.

So can we stop playing this bullshit game in the media of Oh, because I don't say that I'm a racist out loud, then that means that I'm not a racist, Or we can all pretend that we don't know what is in Donald Trump's heart, or the fact that the Republican Party who has been silent on his dinner companions, and the fact that this entire fucking party is associated with white nationalists because they don't say it outright, and even when they do, the media still treats it up

as like, oh, well, maybe she means that, maybe he means it, Maybe they don't. Marshary Taylor Green has spoken at events with Nick Fuentes, has gone to talk about white nationalism white Christianity. Paul Gossar has also spoken at events with Nick Fuentes, has talked about white nationalism. If it walks like a duck and talks like a racist duck,

it's a fucking racist duck. So can we stop playing these stupid, fucking games where we pretend that we don't know what Donald Trump is doing that we don't know that he's a white supremaist. The man referred to African nations as shiitthhole countries. The man referred to COVID nineteen as the Kung flu. The man referred to undocumented people as aliens and put chill in cages. Said why can't we bring in people from you know, those good Norwegian

countries like Finland or something like that. Donald Trump is a white supremacist. Finally, Ben Rhodes, an MSNBC contributor, finally said it on cable news. It was the first time that I've heard it said on cable news by another white man, who is just like, can we stop pretending here? So I would like to go even a step further. Can we stop allowing the Republican Party to continue to operate like this a normal political party when we know in fact that it is a well funded, well organized

political hate group. That's what it is. The reason why Republicans are not condemning the dinner with Nick Fuente's is because many of them believe the same fucking shit. They know that this is who their base is. So if your base is a bunch of white supremacist supporters. What the fuck does that make you? So? My feeling here, folks, is that it's intellectually dishonest for us to keep playing this double Dutch game, back and forth, back and forth

about whether or not Donald Trump is a racist. Donald Trump has told you himself that he is. Donald Trump has surrounded himself with people who believe in the replacement theory, people who discuss it. So what do they say? The old saying goes that if you lay down with dogs, you gonna get up with fleas. This is Donald Trump. This is the Republican Party. You know. When Hillary Clinton back in twenty sixteen referred to Donald Trump's supporters as

a basket of deplorables, she didn't go further enough. She didn't go far enough, because they're not just deplorable, they're fucking vile. Marjorie Taylor Green, Paul Goes or Donald Trump. These people do not deserve to have political titles. They don't deserve to be a part of our government. Like, where the fuck do we draw the line? Is there no line for us to draw? I thought that it was very clear right that anti semitism bad, racism, bad,

misogyny bad, homophobia, transphobia, bad, bad. I like, it is so utterly frustrating to watch reporters contort themselves so as not to offend the most vile people and their vile ass supporters. Oh, I don't know if we can call Donald Trump at white supremacist. I don't know if that person that gunned down although those black people in the store is a white supremacist unless they leave a manifesto, unless they write it up, unless it says so that I am proudly racist on my social media. I guess

we're just going to be left with wondering. No, folks, it's really fucking clear. What isn't clear to me is the decision to tap dance around these issues. What isn't clear to me is what is the media actually get.

What do they get from pretending? You know, the Republicans are getting ready to take over the House in January when they come back for their news session, and it is not clear whether or not Kevin McCarthy is going to get the gavel back because there are many members who are saying that they're not voting for him, and you know, not like there is any one of them that is actually better because They're all a bunch of spineless ass kissing white nationalists, right, Like, that's who the

Republican Party is. It's fascinating to me though, that we're gonna go back. Republicans are going to take over the House. The news is going to cover their bullshit hearings as if there are some type of merit that is there. Let's do a series of investigations into Hunter Biden and Hunter Biden's laptop, or as Ted who said on his own podcast the other day, oh no, we need to not go after Hunter Biden because Joe Biden is the godfather.

What the fuck are you talking about, Ted Cruz, Like, in all honesty, you allowed a man who called your wife ugly, who disrespected you, disrespected your family, to continue to do so so that you could have some type of power. You kissed the ring of a known criminal. How many fucking lawsuits does Donald Trump have against him right now, from everything from fucking tax evasion to you know, trying to pressure a secretary of State to you know,

find him eleven seven hundred and some odd votes. You know, I'm tired of the lawsuits, and what I want are the indictments. What I want are the fucking charges to stick. But how Ted Cruz finds it within himself to say that Joe Biden a man that has given himself to public service for his entire life, who has done nothing

but good, like with his own life. Like, yeah, Joe Biden has presided over legislation that we know was fucked up and has tried to make amends for those things like the fucking crime bill, right like his you know, attacks on Anita Hill during Clarence Thomas's hearing, like all of those things. We know that Joe Biden is not perfect. But what we know for a fact is that Joe Biden is not a fucking criminal like the one that

Ted Cruz fucking capes for that. The whole Republican Party capes for knowing that Donald Trump is a criminal because they all benefit from it. And what I am tired of is the media giving everyone the benefit of the doubt. Oh do you When Donald Trump was asked on stage, do you denounce the proud boys the oath keepers? No, he told them to stand back and stand by and then weaponize the crowd filled with those proud boys and

oath keepers to go attack the Capitol Building. But We're still waiting around for Merrick Garland to decide that he's going to have a special counsel to take more time to run out the clock, do you know, come up with nothing? Another nothing burger like the Muller report ended up being What pisces me off is when people say like, oh, well,

Ted Cruz knows better, does he? Because when people continue to act against the interests of this country, right, when people continue to support and uphold people who support an uphold white nationalists, how difficult is it to just connect the fucking dots. I'm confused, I really am, so you had. Senator Bill Cassidy tweeted yesterday President Trump hosting racist anti semites for dinner encourages other racist anti semites. These attitudes

are immoral and should not be entertained. This is not the Republican Party. And my quote we treat said this. Let's be clear, your base is filled with Nazis, white nationalists, racists, anti semites, and more. This is the Republican Party. Marjorie Taylor Green has spoken at events with Nick Fuente's and she is McCarthy's right hand. This is who you all love and lift up. They don't denounce anything that Trump does.

And what people fail to realize, what they fail to realize, is that their silence is their alignment, right Like, the Republicans are not being held hostage by Donald Trump. They are willing accomplices. They are aligned with Trumpism. And Trumpism includes anti semitism, it includes racism, it includes hate in all its forms. Oh, it's you know, it's fine to

be a homophobe. I guess if you're the governor of a state like Greg Abbott or Ronda Santis, and you can pass legislation that bars gay people from you know, living full and complete lives, that's okay, so long as you throw up Christianity in front of it, right, Like, those are things that are still acceptable that we accept as normal legislation. To me, there is no distinction between the racists and the anti semites and the homophobes and

the transpols. They are the same fucking people. What I would love, What I would love is for everybody that gets on television to take a page out of Ben Rhodes's book just say the fucking truth. Donald Trump is a white nationalist. Donald Trump is the leader of the Republican Party. The Republican Party is a white nationalist party. That's it, end of story, and cover them as such. That's it. You don't need people to say to you

I am a racist. You watch what they do, you watch what they say, you watch who they hang with. So in every single one of those aspects, Donald Trump and the Republican Party has shown us who they are.

Believe them. Coming up next, friends, very excited that there are a couple of episodes coming up this week where I have the opportunity to sit down with young people who are still in high school, young queer kids who had the ability to attend the It Gets Better Youth conference, meet other queer kids in person, and actually hear about what is on their minds, what concerns them, because you see, what we do is that as a society, we talk at kids, and we talk about kids, but we don't

really talk to kids, particularly queer ones, particularly those that are marginalized. We use them as political foot balls, but we don't actually know how it's affecting their day to day. So in today's interview, I interview a young person by the name of Chloe who is a non binary artist, and I will talk to them about what it's like to be out and queer as a young person, what they think about how LGBTQ people are being treated, and what are some of the biggest misconceptions that we have.

That conversation with Chloe is coming up next, Folks. I am very excited to be joined on this episode of Will Gay by a couple of youth queer advocates who participated in the It Gets Better campaign's Youth Summit, and today I'm joined by Chloe, who is a non binary artists who likes to express their creativity with different mediums such as drawing, writing, and painting, and they enjoy writing

articles and drawing different things that they find interesting. Chloe, tell me how was the Youth Summit experience for you? The Youth Summit experienced? It was it was new because I'm not around a lot of young queer people like um here in North Carolina, So it was like really interested to interact with them like other than online. And even though I'm kind of shy myself, I enjoyed it. It was it was nice to have like conversations in person because like you have a lot of conversations online,

where like in person is really different. So what kind of conversations were you having. What were some of the sessions that you attended that were really interesting to you? UM, some of the sessions where like when we played um different games and stuff and UM just talking about like our lives and how like they're so connected even though like we come from all around. UM, Like it's it's similar, but it's different. Like it was so interesting seeing that.

So you live in North Carolina. What greade are you in? Teh in tenth grade? Okay, and what is it like being in tenth grade and being queer in North Carolina? Being queer enough Carolina. It's like I even think this while I was on something. I don't I'm not necessarily I'm not very expressive with my identity. I'm more expressive online than I am in person because I just feel like it's a lot of it can be like a lot of unsolicited opinions, and I meant that I really

don't want to hear it. I feel like, you know, I feel like my identity is sacred to me, and so if I don't feel comfortable sharing it with you, it's not like my obligation to tell you, So I don't. I wouldn't like say I have like the experience of being like, um, really like I'm queer North Carolina, but I'm not open about it, so it's like kind of different. Can you tell me a bit about your online experience? Is that different chat rooms that you go to, different

platforms that you use? How do you create online community? UM? I don't necessarily go to chat rooms like earlier, UM, during when I was first like, it's from my identity. I UM, I would go to different like like informational sessions. It will be like a chat room, right, but it would be like about like vogueing like ballrooms, So I would go to those sessions, but that only have to like once, and UM, I necessarily just talk about like I'm over on myding on Instagram and things of that nature.

But UM, it's meant it's just like somebody like signing up on your story. They're like, hey, I'm by too, and it's like that sort of thing. I don't really like. It's not really like an end depth conversation unless like I'm like I personally know you or we got to know each other. What made you want to attend the Youth Summit? Was this your first time? Hm? Um? Last year even though I got in the program last year.

We didn't have when you summit last year, so like because of COVID, But um, I wanted to attend because I feel like I've never been in LA and then I feel like it would be a great time to like interact with people, um, other queer people, because I don't get a lot of that in North Carolina. It's there. Do you have within your school a GSA any type of programs that are directed towards LGBTQ youth, I don't

believe so. Um. I remember in middle school they had a DSA, but from this time I was in eye transition from middle school in high school, I moved to a different high school, like like I live in like like a predominantly white suburb of Charlotte, So I moved to a more diverse part of Charlotte could go to school. I didn't physically move, but I decided to go to school there. And so we're kind of behind on clubs.

Like my school just bought back clubs this year, so it's like we have I think it's like art clubs and STUBB. It's not like yesa, okay, what kind of programs or what kind of groups do you go to in person? If you go to any at all, are there that are there available for people that are your age? Um? I wouldn't know, because, Um, I don't go to any because I feel like it's like kind of like a disconnect from going to a different from going to like a different say, to go to school's kind of like

a disconnect. And like some things like sometimes I feel like more it's more diverse and like more open in Charlotte, but I live like it's different because it's like I don't get home from school to a certain time, and then like my parents don't get off of work till a certain time. So it's like some things like in person, most thing I can only do virtual because it's like that's just like how my life is seconds. It's how my life is set up right now as well. I

prefer to do things virtually. UM, tell me, Chloe, what do you think that older people get wrong when they're talking about queer use? I feel like what older um people get wrong is like just the whole concept and the whole um this is new. I never like a lot of older people I noticed they try to say, oh,

we never had this back in my day. When actually I feel like they actually did, but they kind of shut them down or um people were less expressive because they could get hate crime in the person who would hate crime them, they wouldn't get any like punishment for it.

So I feel like most older people they feel like this is a it's a surprise to them, and like they often overreact to like certain things like if they see like a queer couple or like, um, it's I feel like trans youth, especially a lot of old older um people, they overreact to it, but they feel like, um, it's new when it's like really not in like people like they know themselves, like they I feel like, you know,

don't recering aboutself. It feels like a lot of older people they live in a hetero normative like mindset yea where they feel like if it's not a heteronormative like is like mind bling when it's really normal, it really shouldn't be because people know themselves. Like you said, what message would you send to people in order to get them to be more open minded because a lot of a lot of older people say, you know, you're too young to make decisions about yourself, to make decisions about

your body. What message would you send to them. A message I would send to them is to educate themselves because it's really it's really down to them, because I feel like at a certain point, it's a difference between ignorance and like hatred. Like ignorance is like you don't know and but you're It's like then line because hatred is like you know you're wrong, and you know you don't know everything about the subject, but you continue to stay uneducated about it. So I feel like it's up

to them to educate themselves. And I feel like, yeah, it's really it's really up to them because at the end of the day, the people they like feel like they're trying to spew hate against in their ignorance against They're going to continue to live their lives. I don't want to live their lives. So it's like it's up to them. What advice? Last question for you? What advice do you give to other people young people your age that may not feel comfortable yet coming out or are

scared to come out. What advice do you give to them? My advice I would give them is don't come out if you're not ready, because I feel like coming out is not essential, Like you don't need to an I don't stay everyone like like straight people, they don't announce everyone. They're um um straight. So it's like, if you don't

feel like coming out, you don't have to. But if you feel like you want to come out, like you should, like, make sure you're comfortable, you're ready, like um, you're in a safe environment like you should like um, just take your time like I. Don't try to like um force it or try to make it um unnatural because so and so said so, or you feel like your album gates are telling them, just like, make sure you're comfortable

and safe with doing it. Chloe, thank you so much for making the time to join WALK often sharing your thoughts and your experiences at Youth Summit. I really appreciate you. That is it for me today. Dear friends on woka app as always power to the people and to all the people. Power, get ok and stay woke as fack

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