Matrix of White Supremacy

depravity that we are consuming daily. I put out a couple of TikTok videos this week for the first of the new year, because honestly, I haven't had the energy. I haven't had the energy to be angry, because a kind of numbness has washed over me following the holidays. As many of you know, I lost a very dear friend at the end of last year, and so I have been challenged in terms of reconciling with that reality.

At the same time also trying to reconcile with the reality that there are a considerable amount of human beings that are absolutely fucking depraved, that lack no moral compass, no sense of humanity, of our shared humanity, that are literally cheering and applauding death. You know, I say this often because you know, as the years progressed, you can't help but reflect right on where you've come, how much

you've learned, god willing, how much you've changed. And you know, I can remember so clearly sitting in my middle school auditorium where we were all gathered I want to say it was either seventh or eighth grade or so to watch Shindler's List, because it was that time where we were learning about World War Two. And you know, Shindler's List is like one of those films that you really

only need to see one time. Right, It is heartbreaking, it is devastating, and then when you learn as a young person that this is not fiction, right, this happened, it becomes really hard to digest. Because you're taught, right, at least most of us, right from wrong, you know, good from bad, nice from evil, so on and so forth, and so I can remember, you know that there was always something about World War Two and the Holocaust that stuck with me more so than any of the other

wars that I would learn about. And you know, Vietnam I would really come to a clearer understanding much later in life, and thankfully, as my sister would live there for over a decade to be able to see history through somebody else's lens, right, other than what we're fed in the United States.

I couldn't understand how that could be. And it was similarly with slavery and white people buying human beings that walk, that talk, that speak, that have brains, that have babies, that have feelings, and literally on your way to go buy a new pat or pick up a carton of eggs that you're walking past, human beings that are naked put up on butcher blocks for you to choose from. I don't understand the depravity that human beings are capable of. It is so I realize why I feel so destabilized

right now. I'm both managing personal grief and loss, yes, while managing collective grief and loss. We've learned nothing, and it's not even the fault right of us, mere citizens, mere mortals inside of this matrix of greed and capitalism and imperialism and extraction and patriarchy, because we haven't been given the full story. The wall was put over our eyes to hold up America as some type of beacon.

Bring me, you're tired, you're and you're poor. Unless they are brown, unless they are black, unless they don't assimilate, unless we don't see.

and obediently, in their matrix of white supremacy. Where we are right now, is that not only by virtue of watching a genocide take place in real time inside of Gaza at the hands of Israel forces, is that the world is collectively waking up and saying, wait a minute, how.

But they both doing the same fucking thing. So how we reconcile this upside down, broken, wide open reality that we are in right now is destabilizing because right and wrong we were taught should be very clear, banning books wrong, denying people housing wrong. But as it turns out, we've been living in a state of gray. Our tax dollars use to fund all types of genocides, all types of war.

We wonder why the world is so unstable right now, Well, let's look at all of the unnecessary interventions that the United States and the United Kingdom and others have done in regions in order to extract uranium, diamonds, oil. Who gives a fuck about the people on top of the land. We'll just put people in power, like we're playing one big global game of monopoly. Who will do our bidding? Well, folks, why are we in the place that we're in right now?

Because the chickens have come home to roost? Because these white men, greedy, wealthy, powerful white men can't run from the lie fast enough anymore. Right, everything's been broken open. Sure, there is a lot of misinformation out there, but folks, there's a lot of fucking information out there too.

are going to be on the other side today. You're gonna hear me in my interview with Jonathan I am exhausted when we tape this. I'm exhausted. I was feeling hopeless and frustrated.

been going on for a millennia. The question is whether or not we want to be a part of creating the breaking open of the transparency, of the authenticity, of the honesty, so that we can help the next generations create something better than the shit that we are in

right now. But I urge every one of us to start asking questions of ourselves about what we thought was true and what actually is, to educate ourselves to expand beyond what is, because what is was created for the benefit of a small group of people, a couple of countries that then get it, got to dictate to everyone else. Everything is changing, everything is upside down, But the fact is it has never been really right side up. We're just now tilting our heads, rubbing our eyes and seeing

things clearer than we ever have before. Information education is power. What we do with it is going to determine who we become, not just ten months from now with our election, but collectively as humanity. Coming up next, my conversation with our friend, our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel.

then Nikki Haley. But Jonathan, let me tell you that I was watching interviews that MSNBC was doing with folks on the ground in Iowa, and this one gentleman, a whitey self avowed white evangelical Christian, said that, you know, God uses interesting tools in order to get his message and point across, and Donald Trump is that interesting tool.

But he is with him all the way. Donald Trump left Iowa and is now a courtroom in New York City while we record this for defamation of the woman that he was found guilty of raping, Egene Carroll.

guess my frustration. I don't mean to say this to disparage anybody in any way, but if you live in a blue state or you just watch MSNBC, you can't imagine why one person would vote for Trump, right because MSNBC, I mean it's great, like I love MSNBC, but it's been like NonStop coverage of the legal troubles and you know, they call him the twice in peach, ninety seven times indicted former, blah blah blah, and all this kind of stuff, Like it's just like, why in the world would anybody

vote for this guy? And so what you get on MSNBC or from you know, liberal Twitter and stuff like that, even after Iowa last night, was all of that stuff. But you don't understand I think fully how deep the bond is between Trump and his voters. You don't understand totally. I mean maybe legally is a way, but you don't understand like what would it mean to beat Trump? Or what's blah blah blah, you know that kind of stuff

like you get. So I just think that there's been an echo chamber for Democrats that I hope was shattered last night, which was why in the world would anybody vote for this guy? Or I think there was kind of a subconscious fantasy that the GOP was going to implode, like this guy's not electable. Well, hey, guess what. This guy's really electable. You know, he's really charismatic, he's really grievance oriented and more than anything else. And you see

this if you're in the South. He's promising something to his voters. He's promising them power, right, which is like Spanish fly for long aggrieved conservatives who you know, they're not really that agrieved, but that's their narrative. And so he's promising them power. He's saying, elect me, and I'm going to have power for me and power for you. And you feel it if you're down here in a

red state, and you just don't get that sense. You know, if you're in a liberal information network, it's all like Trump's in court and Trump is this, and Trump is indicted, and Trump's impeached. But you don't see a point that I think other people who study fascism, like Jason Stanley, for example, I've been making very well, which is all this stuff about Trump being a criminal and blah blah blah, it doesn't it doesn't speak to the power of Trump,

and it's really powerful. Right, you actually need to bring your a game right now to beat Trump. I mean, I think that's kind of it. And so Trump is promising power, which is the message that people down here want to hear. And they're not going to be convinced like all this moralizing about his being a rapist which he is, and indicted which he is, and impeach rec is all that kind of stuff. It's just it's not like you're going to shake people's faith in that. Right.

Trump is the nominee, and he's more powerful now than he was when he left office, and he's more powerful than he was before. So what's your strategy? Right, what's your strategy? And the question then becomes what is Biden promising Not so much like something abstract, but like, what's the offensive message? What's Brden promising his voters that counters that message that enables his coalition? And I just think the other guy sucks is not a strong enough offensive message.

That's my personal feeling, like you actually have to promise something tactile to your base that mobilizes your base, and in a way, that's what you see Trump doing now. And so I hope last night was a wake up call. There's plenty of time to write the ship. But Biden or whoever, I just think saving democracy is a really abstract concept when you're facing an organized, unified, energized opponent that is promising something tactile to people.

don't think that it's going to be helpful. But I offer it at this moment because I know that I'm not alone. I'm over it, right, Like, I don't know, I honestly, Jonathan, I don't know what the message is that Biden can offer.

But I would also say, I mean, I've been saying this on your show for three years now, that Democrats fall into a trap of I mean, think about it from the perspective of the South, Like the main trauma in this part of the country is not I mean, I hate to say this, but this is what I researched. It's not slavery, it's not anti semitism, it's not related to gender. It's like losing the Civil War. And so Trump is promising to like a certain segment of the

population that we're going to relitigate the Civil War. And I've been trying to say this for years, and like my book was going to be called How We Lost, it was going to be called The War of Southern Aggression. I got rejected by thirty publishers because everybody was like, nah, nah, that's not how it works. But that is what Trump is tapping into, which is re litigating the Civil War in a way that has great implications, if for the South,

and really catastrophic implications for Blue states. Honestly, if you think Trump is voison a vengeance against places like New York in his last presidency, like they, I mean, what's happening with like the buses of immigrants and all this kind of stuff, It's it's just a warm up for this idea of kind of refighting the Civil War in a way that the South will rise again and stuff like that, which sounds like a trope, but I can just say that's what he's that's what he's tapping into,

and so Democrats can, honestly, democrats can beat that with their coalition. Right, they have a very broad coalition, They have labor, they have all these different constituencies, they have people in many places. And the presidential election also comes down to just a number of states. Right, Blue states are blue, Red states are rat and red. Mobilize that coalition. But the problem with the Democrats right now is, as you're suggesting, there's no kind of energy around the message.

And so that's what needs to change, like yesterday, last night, this morning, that needs to change. What's the energy around the around the message? Right, Democrats are promising a better deal for a lot of people, but it's going to take like a mobilizing mobilizing that message. And that's honestly what needs to happen right right right now.

don't have a Clinton. We don't have somebody who like who people actually love and come hell or high water, will do what is necessary to get done. What you have is somebody that most people don't really like, not because like he's a bad person, right well, to some extent at this point, a lot of people actually do think that he's a bad person, but because they think that he's old, because he's a relic of the past,

because he's just not an energizer. And so when you look at that up against people where Donald Trump told people in Iowa, go ahead, I know it's forty one degrees below, but if you die, you know at least you will have done something worth doing. And they cheered at that.

rights are limited. They get that. They understand. I was able to get an abortion one day, Now I'm not. I was able to vote one day, now I'm not. This coalition is so distraught for so many different reasons. For the older people, young people, they're all coming to the table with different grievances that they're laying at the feet of this administration, and because they're not coalesced around

a man that they love. This is the problem, is that we're battling with real resolute emotion and we're trying to match it with stats and figures and facts, which is what you and I talk about all the time. That just doesn't it's not going to meet people in the same way.

a long time now. That being said, you know that old joke about like the psychiatrist and the light bulb, and it's like when the light bulb really wants to change, that's when they changed a lot. Yes, and so the thing is like, again, the Democrats can easily win this election if they're scared enough about the alternative and they feel like there's enough in it for them, if Biden wins and so and so it's not like it's helpless. Right. The thing that is should not be surprising anybody is

that Trump supporters haven't changed. They've been exactly while we've all been watching MSNBC. They've felt exactly this way.

And you've said that yourself, right, I know, this morning's a hard morning, but think about it, nothing really has changed. Rightangelical and conservative and now college educated white voters in a place like Iowa have overwhelming Like it was a fantasy, Like people have been dilly dillying thinking that Nikki Haley's going to convince people and thinking that blah blah blah blah blah. It's a fantasy that is just not based

in reality. So now let's face reality and then figure out what to do about it.

And so now that we have all and people want to tell me, you know, Danielle, when it comes to US elections, you know, what happens abroad is not going to matter. Foreign policy never plays right, and I'm just like, that's a fucking lie.

injected into social media feeds. Like there is so much disinformation right now, and it's all directed at mobilizing progressives against Democrats. Like the level of that, like, you're not going to mobilize, it's not going to work on Trump supporters going against Trump. But the of like like it, you know, I mean, what's happening right now is horrible and genocide. And you know, again, I have a lot

of family in Israel. They've been in the streets protesting against Nitan Yahoo every single day since much before anybody here paid attention to it, saying that this guy's going to end our country and stuff like that. But but I would say that the level of the level of like manipulation trying to split progressives and Democrats right now is just going to I mean, if we ever find out the extent of it, I think it's going to

be breathtaking for a lot of people. But there already is tons of information out there about how a lot of these narratives about Biden being you know, not representing your interests and all these kind of things. It's just you know what I mean, Like it's it's it's so far beyond I mean, do you really think that Trump winning is going to be better for all the things?

But with ten months until an election and now we're gonna watch Iowa, New Hampshire stuff that we're going to watch this entire thing play out over you know, the winter and the spring as we get into the summer, and I'm just like, it doesn't feel good.

slaughter people. It'll make it easier for them to have a kind of strong man politics, much more transactional strong man politics. So all these guys want Trump, like it's not like, oh, Biden, what he says, like Biden, I'm sure despises Nitanya who Natanya who doesn't want Biden to win? And so you know the issue here is why is that?

And so if Biden, if Nataiaho doesn't want Trump Biden to win, and Putin doesn't want an urban and progressive politics, if they all don't want Biden to win, Biden's not going to win, and then you're going to get Trump, and then yeah, you know who's going to win that It's not going to be progressive. It's going to be the Orbon's and the Putins and the Yaho's other world.

that that anything is wrong. Oh, I'm sorry, and there and there and there, and their inability to adapt to the moment, and just you know, statements that Biden put out one hundred days of war in Israel and Gaza, and the statement that he put out was so fucking tone deaf. I couldn't I couldn't believe it right, So that to me is the thing.

can get back on board. And what would would would would be some kind of plan that stops the violence and leads to a two state solution. And I pretty much can guarantee you that that's what the Democrats are working on now right that that you know, are all of our democratic foreign They're not saying like, go keep bombing the crap out of people and killing families. What they're saying is we need some kind of way to have this horrible moment change the narrative into a way

that's leading to something on the ground. And I feel like if that narrative changed, you know that to me, that's the one hope of changing the narrative. But the only problem is doesn't want it, right And yeah, there are a lot of people that don't want it, you know, And so the question is do you think that, you know, how's that going to change? But the problem is the players on the ground. So I do feel like it's just important to note on a kind of real level

that the Democrats are kind of stuck right now. You know, like you can debate what I mean, it was hugely mistake to go embrace Ninton. Now in the beginning, maybe Biden thought that would give him leverage.

progressives in America even knew what was going on. Yeah, and so you know this has been so just read rates in English right now they're giving this as one of the five options. It's just that, you know, I just I just think that you know, again, there's there's got to be a change. At the point that I think we're both making here is that there's got to

be a change in the narrative. And that narrative is not going to change without some change in the midd least, and that change has to come in ways that I mean. I'll I'll send you this article. I think it's really outstanding.