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Incubators For White Supremacy

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The Republican party, backed by a majority of white women voters, wants to make AFAB bodies into incubators. Perhaps votes in Kansas and elsewhere will show the tide is changing. Dr. Jonathan Metzl joins for a monkeypox update.

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Good morning, peeps, and welcome to Okay f Daily with Meet your Girl Danielle Moody, recording from the Home Bunker. Folks. You know, I want to start off today with talking about what we are seeing unfold across the country as it pertains to access to abortion. There is a profound sense of cruelty that Republicans are rolling out that I really do not think is being discussed in the manner

that it should be. So let me be very blunt about what we are seeing and now, provided the Department of Justice has finally decided to step in because of what has been happening, that is just absolutely egregious. So basically, all of these states are implementing their trigger laws and are taking away any exception for the life and the well being of a pregnant person. In Georgia, they have

decided that life begins at conception. I don't know why the fuck it doesn't begin at ejaculation, because then maybe they could start, oh, I don't know, making it mandatory that men get vasectomies, which are then reversible when they show that they are responsible enough to become fathers. You know, I'm so confused about why it is the regulation of a body that contains a uterus, as opposed to recognizing that it takes more than one person in order to

create said life. Nonetheless, other places like the state of Idaho, which the Department of Justice has decided to file charges against, has put in place a law that would criminalize doctors for implementing an abortion procedure in order to save the

life of said pregnant person. And they are pushing the limits because the doctor could say, well, they weren't going to die, but what will happen is that they'll be disabled for the rest of their life, right, And the State of Idaho is like, okay, bet, so long as you know, we could give a fuck about the host body, so long as the collection of cells is able to survive,

we're not going to provide it with any healthcare. We're not going to provide any parental leave, We're not going to provide any neonatal care, We're not going to do any of those things. Right, so long as you know, we can force birth and that be the end of it. So the Department of Justice, led by Merrick Garland, has decided to step in and they are suing the State of Idaho and hoping that in this lawsuit, essentially it will make it very clear that these abortion bands are

violating federal law, and federal law supersedes state law. Hence why we are looking to congress this very napped, dysfunctional Congress to codify Roe v. Wade and folks, I got to tell you that the more you listen to these Republicans, the more I ask myself on a daily basis, what

the fuck is wrong with white women? Like, and I mean that with absolute shade included, like white women, And I am specifically talking about white women that vote for Republicans and vote for the Republican Party or just vote alongside their boyfriends or their daddies or like whatever it is, What the fuck do you think is wrong with them? Right?

I did a panel Mary L. Trump does a weekly show on YouTube and I have joined on as one of her nerd Avengers along with several friends of Woke, a f and folks that you all see on MSNBC and other news outlets. And on this panel that was like completely star studded. I was just you know, elated to be included were lawyers and academics, journalists discussing what it is going to take essentially to activate people, and will Rob Wade that were the overturning of such be it?

And what I said was, you know, I'm not quite sure what it is going to take white women to pull their heads out from the fucking sand and realize that these men who they believed that they gained their power from, view them as incubators. You, my dear woman, are an incubator for white supremacy. There are no exceptions for rape, there are no exceptions for insects, there are no exceptions. And frankly, if you land right on an

operating table, guess what your life is at risk? Guess what said doctor, if you are having complications, isn't going to save your life. And there is no amount of money, no plane ticket that when you are on that operating table and the choice is being made between you and a fetus that they choose in you. So I need white women in this country to wake the fuck up. And now I know that it isn't going to be

me that these women are going to listen to. So I want the many white women's supporters of all ages that listen to woke. A f Folks asked me all the time, what can I do? What can I do? I need you all to utilize your platforms, start groups, start talking to your mom's and your aunts, and your neighbors, and your friends, and your child's teacher and the daycare person. I need you to start having regular conversations with what is at stake and what is coming down for vote.

By the time that you all listen to this, five states will have voted, including the one that everybody is watching, which is Kansas, because it's going to be the first either referendum on the overturning of Rov Wade or it's going to signal to Republicans that that they can just keep on keeping on because they no real pushback coming. We will find that out by the end of the week.

But the reality is is that I need you to start holding your own focus groups, holding your own town halls, and having conversations with other white women about their role in this revolution these revolution luctionary times that we are living in. It is no longer incumbent on the responsibility of black Indigenous women of color right to be on the forefront, even though we are the ones that are victimized the most from the systemic failures that this country

has had over generations. Right, we are entering into a time when they really have drawn the battle lines of us versus them, and your whiteness is not going to fucking save you, right, So it isn't going to be me that is going to sound the alarm that is going to wake these women up. But it is going

to be all of you. It is going to be all of you, not just having one and done conversations, but having weekly conversations, consistent conversations, getting on zoom calls, getting on you know, getting on a phone chain, talking

with your church members, your synagogue. You're like, whatever it is, it is time for white women to take on the role of waking up other white women because otherwise this country ain't surviving, right, And you know, I would love to believe that there are more people who believe in progress, equity and justice in this country than who don't, but I'm not so sure. I think that it's about fifty fifty. And right now, the other fucking side is winning, and

they are winning fucking big. And the setup for our loss in twenty twenty two for the midterms election isn't like the We're going to have another chance at this again. We are two elections away from losing our democracy fucking completely. That is not an exaggeration. That is an alarm to go off in everyone's head. Republicans achieve a win in these midterms and then are set up to win in

twenty twenty four. America is done. America already as we have known it and understood it right throughout our all many decades. Isn't never going to happen again? Right? We are already so removed from the Obama years, let alone any years prior to that. We are in such a dark and dismal place in this country that there isn't

a day that goes by. There isn't a fucking hour that goes by that another virus isn't announced, another talk about, you know, somebody being shot or killed or beaten or stabbed, a black person, unarmed by police or a vigilante. There isn't a headline that goes by that isn't talking about

climate change and uncontained fire, superstorms. They are all of these things, right, And so you add on top of all of the man made climate change and disaster that we are experiencing right now, and combine that with the fall of our democracy and the fact that we all continue to kind of move throughout the world right now, like everything is going to somehow work itself out. It ain't working itself out unless we work it out, and

unless everyone gets to the same place. A fucking rage of where we are and all of the rights that we are losing, and what is going to happen when the Supreme Court now takes up affirmative action when they get back, takes up birth control when they get back, takes up marriage equality right, and all of these things.

Tick tick tick tick tick right. So my feeling is I need for folks to be talking to the members of their own community, to be getting these people on board, to coming to them and saying I am like you and you are like me, but this cannot stand right, that no one is going to be safe. So while you may have been able to be like, yeah, well, I'm not black, so I don't need to care about police reform or voting rights or you know, I'm not this, so I don't need, you know, to hair about healthcare.

And I'm wealthy so I can do whatever the fuck. No, they are coming for everything, and frankly, it's pretty fucking simple and easy because they have recognized that they don't need Congress, they don't need the federal government, they needed the courts, and they needed more than half of the states to be controlled by Republican governors. Right that they can just rewrite constitutions, They can rewrite the law and

think that no pushback is going to come. And what I'm saying is that it is time for the population right that handed Donald Trump a win in twenty sixteen, that decided not to vote for one of their own but instead go for the pussy grabbing, misogynist, racist pig and do so again in twenty twenty. This is on all y'all. So for the good, progressive, thoughtful, strategic white women that are listening to me right now, I need you to jot down a list of ten to fifteen

women that you can call into conversation. Invite them and not bereade them, but say, do you know what is happening in our state? Right? Here is where abortion stands, Here is where voting rights stands, here is where canceling of student debt stands. Here's where this stands. Our democracy is crumbling, and if we don't activate ourselves now, there will be no next time. This is what I need.

I need people to start doing, utilizing your platforms, your voice, and your network and recognizing that everything is at stake right now and everyone has a responsibility. Coming up next, dear friends, my conversation with our friend, our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan. That's to bring us the latest on Monkey Pops, which, by the way, is getting fucking worse and no one is going to be safe from it. Jonathan will break

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get your podcast. New episodes every Tuesday. Folks, you know that whenever we have the opportunity to talk with our in house doctor, doctor Jonathan Metzel, we are overjoyed and also terrified at what the latest virus discussion will be about, or how much America is failing once again when faced

with a health pandemic that we should learn from. We should have used the things that we learned over the past two years with COVID to engage with monkeypox, and yet Jonathan, here we are where last week New York State declared a state of emergency. This week California has declared a state of emergency. Tell us, how is it that we got this wrong again? Well, first, let me say the most important thing is there's a monkeypox vaccine that stops this right. It's going to be mandated by

the government. The government is going to force you and your family to get the vaccine, and you should resist. You should not listen to the government force you to get the vaccine. This is big government. The reason I'm saying that is because there's only so much monkey box vaccine around, and so I have a feeling, first of all, that this is going to be a totally different Like with COVID we mandated, there was plenty of vaccine, everybody just go in and get it, and that led to

all this crazy politics. But I think, as we talked about last week, one of the main issues is that there's We've had the technology for a while, because you know, we had smallpox, for example, and there's only one company, but veryan Nordic, that makes this vaccine and there and there's not enough of it, and so I feared that this is going to turn into like the Hunger Games

in a way for the vaccine. So we have to say the same things as the COVID vaccine to get like millions of my fellow honkys to not get the vaccine, so they'll be enough for everybody. Because I think that the fact that this thing is going to be this thing is going to get really bad. I'm sorry, it's a beautiful day out, but this thing is going to get really bad. And so number one one is like,

we this isn't COVID. We're not starting from nowhere. We actually have a treatment for this, but it's in limited supply, and so how we how we kind of narrate this as this thing starts to spread is going to be super duper important. Now back to your question, I just wanted to do that as a public service announcement, but I will say that, you know, there's been a version of monkey Box, as we talked about before, that has been circulating a round Africa for a long time. But

it's it really seems like it's behaving differently now. If you look at the if you look at the transmission patterns. I mean it's it's doubling in New York and other places like every week, Like yep, how's that happening? And so I called my parents the other day, who are like smart liberal doctors and I and I said, hey, you know, you guys should get the monkey box vaccine if you can, because this thing is not behaving the way the way you know, it's behaving like smallpox. Which

smallpox it's on a surface for like twenty five years. Um, that's how this thing is acting, right, This thing is acting like like smallpox used to. And can you can you explain just give us a give us a bit of a history lesson in terms of how smallpox actually acted and how monkeypox is deviating from what has been discovered as it has circulated throughout countries in Africa, um,

and how it's acting differently and like smallpox. Now yeah yeah, So, I mean the issue with with smallpox, right, and it's kind of similar with monkeypox, right, is that, Um it's initially everybody thought, oh, here's an illness that's causing you know, vesicles or um blisters, those kind of things, but it turns out it's also affecting your internal organs And then it turned out that if you have it in your like internal organs um and you call for your sneeze,

it's not like an airborne virus. But if somebody's near you and has it in their gi or respiratory track, there's a chance they could propel that onto you and then all you have to do is like rub your eye or something like that. But the other thing is if they cough on a surface, like smallpox, would just you know, the famous cases right were when it was in blankets, right, and we gave it to Native Americans and wiped out like millions and millions of millions of people,

And so this stuff can live outside the body. I

think it's kind of the main point. And if it's that same category everybody before was like, oh, you have to like rub against the vesicles or the story with my parents actually kind of terrifying as that I said, you guys should get the smallpox vac scene and my dad not at all, but he just said, really, sincerely, I haven't had gay sex, and so I think everybody thinks like, oh, you have to have this is like HIV that you actually have to have, like penetrating gay

sex to have it, and I'm sorry that's not the case, you know, But I mean, you know, Jonathan, what what makes me and you know, like jokes aside about the name and all of these things, but what has pissed me off in terms of the way that the media and the CDC and others have rolled out their faques around monkey pox is in fact the same way that

they stigmatize HIV and AIDS. And it's like as if there has been nothing that has been learned in the last thirty forty fucking years about like not situating a virus in one community and thinking that oh, because you're saying, oh, it's it's concentrated in a community of men that sleep with men, which then essentially announces to heterosexuals or those that receive themselves to be heterosexual that like, I don't need to pay attention to this, so I'll click the

channel when we're talking about monkey pox and go on to something else. And they have stigmatized it and created a stereotype around It's one group and one type of person that is getting this, and by virtue of them getting it, oh, well, they just aren't paying attention and they're not taking their health seriously and what have you. So can you talk about how this rollout of expressing to people the dangers around monkey pox has made it

spread so quickly because of how they've done it. Well, I mean, it's not just HIV, right, it's also it's this is a this is a this is a basically a likely epidemic that's happening after they've been so badly burned by COVID, right, and so COVID so much has shaped this also and so um. And the other part I think is that they just completely minimized how contagious this is. I mean, again, nobody's saying that it's just

me looking at the data. But again, if it's spreading the way that they initially said, there's just no way

it would be multiplying the way it is. But it's multiplying like crazy, And so I don't know, gay people also use laundry, They also use linens and towels, right, you know, Like I mean, it's fully spreading by lots of different ways that are not just you know, the domain of gay people like kids, you know, But no, because I'm actually I'm thinking about the fact that if you're, if we're if you're talking about what we all remember or read about smallpox in history class when we were

in K through twelfth school. The reality here is that in cities, right, let's just look, let's just look at

New York City. Right, in cities, I live in an hold on I'm sorry, I live in an apartment building that does not have laundry, right, so I send my laundry out, like millions of people that live in New York, right, And you're telling me that if this is functioning in the same way as smallpox, which was wrapped up in blankets, and many people in this city use laundry mats, use laundry facilities, and we have again just been talking about monkey pops as if you have to come into sexual

or like close physical contact as opposed to touching a surface or going or using a laundry machine or what have you. Like? Are we not looking at literally and figuratively all of the touch points here, how this is spreading in a city right now, in a state like New York and California. I you know again, I'm just

looking at the numbers. I'm looking at the graphs, and just as a totally independent observer who's not studying this I'm saying, there's no way this thing is spreading this fast if it's just through gay sex, that's just that's so, that's me independently saying that. I want to be clear. It's not like I have some knowledge, but I would

not be surprised. I hope I'm wrong. I hope I'm wrong, you know, but I would not be surprised if this thing spreads because it's spreading in ways that we didn't anticipate, and so and so, in that sense, I feel like it is on one hand, it's been minimized. On their hand, our public health infrastructure, let's be honest, has been devastated, demoralized, and is still fighting the COVID pandemic. And so, you know, there are reasons that aren't just ignorance here. I think

a lot of people know it. I just think that you know, I have to see. And the other point, of course, is that we don't have anywhere near enough treatment.

And so I think every time you see anybody just say this is a government plot to vaccinate your children or something like that, because until we have enough vaccine, I think, you know, the unfortunate thing is public health awareness is just going to be really really important, especially in a place like New York, and so I do think there needs to be more consistent, updated information about the ways that it's spread. I'm I mean, I'm a crazy person, right, but I get the monkeypox text messages

on my phone, you know, from the city. I don't know if you do that. But initially it was kind of like, um, like I'd see if they can find it. I mean, initially it was kind of like, um, don't go to the bathhouse. But now it's kind of like the stuff that's coming out is kind of like do you have a fever, go see your doctor right away or something like that. So even judging on that, I think people probably know that this thing is is more contagious.

But again, I just think that the risk of putting a lot a lot of information which may or may not be correct until they know what's going on, I think that's maybe what they're afraid of. I'm actually going to do some investigation about this. I'm talking to some people this week, so i'll have a better sense next week. But it's, um, it's it's it's an intense time, it really is. You know, there are so so last week, how this got back into the headlines and back onto

you know, regular segments on cable news. Is because has two children and eight women have become infected with monkeypox, which was outside again of the community that had been said is where monkey pox is living, which is the

LGBTQ community. Now, as a former elementary school teacher and preschool teacher, I keep thinking, yeah, I keep thinking now about the fact that kids are getting ready to go back to school, and you know, the things that we need to understand, particularly about preschoolers, right so I'm talking about the twos, the threes, and the fours, is that everything is tactile, Everything goes in their mouth, everything goes

on their bodies, like all of these things. And if we're talking about the fact that children are now have gotten monkey pox, I want to know, just from your sense again of looking and reading like it again, should we be having more conversations about what going back to school is going to look like when you're talking about millions of kids touching you know, all of these like, are we not expressing the dangers and talking about protocol in the way that we need to when we know

that American children are going back to school in the next couple of weeks. I mean, hell yeah, I'm I mean, I'm obviously thinking about this for college also, right, because college students live indoors, yes, the community that yeah, yeah, they also put everything in their mouth and in a different way. And so I would just say that, I would just say that, like, where's the information right now?

And again I realize it's probably just being I mean, the fear of like saying stuff that's not right, I think is the is the is the lesson of COVID people are afraid of. But I feel like we're airing on the other side right now, which is just kind of acting like, you know, don't have unprotected gay sex and you'll be I feel like, yeah, we're acting like that. But that's the thing that is scaring the shit out of me is that I honestly, I feel like we are acting as if there is no like that this

isn't a big deal like it was initially. Like again, the initial reports of this and how we have shifted in terms of the conversation from the beginning of the end of June until now has changed dramatically, and so initially it was just like, oh, look at this weird thing that's happening on this continent that the world doesn't give a fuck about because it's filled with black people, so like, who really cares and it'll never come here.

Then all of a sudden, it's like, no, there are cases that are popping up in Europe and cases that are popping up here. Because, as I've said, everything is just one flight away. So if you're seeing things that are happening in you know, in in in an African nation, and you're thinking to yourself, oh, well, I'm safe because I'm in Kansas. It only takes one goddamn flight, right,

Like we're a global community. There was a there was a viral tweet quote unquote from Spain about a doctor who was writing public transportation and if you saw it, and he saw somebody with active monkeypox lesions all over his body and he was just like right in the middle of train and the doctor was like, you cannot be here, and and the guy said, oh, people say it's respiratory, so I'm fine if I don't touch anybody.

And then all these people were around him and all the people were like, if we don't have gay sex with him, we should be all right, and stuff like that, and it seemed to be a legit tweet, and I think there are so many stories like that now. And the question is, really the question is how do you change perceptions when it's so embedded in bias already. And I, you know, I hope they get their act together. Honestly, it's not too late for them to get their act together.

Monkeypox is not COVID. It's actually much more containable than COVID. We already have treatments for it. But but I feel like the lack of centralized information right now is pretty urgent. And again, I know they're probably right about freaking people out. I know that, you know, we're already gearing up to try to get people to get their COVID shots again.

So I don't I don't know, I don't know. I mean, but I think that the right answer is, like people need to be intellectually fucking nimble, right, Like, the more information that we have, the more information that you'll get. But the fact is for me, is that the federal government needs to be running PSAs on every goddamn network as like as information comes out, So every day there should be multiple PSAs about like what monkeypox is looking

like in your area, how to stay safe. Like, this is what we know right now, which is it can live on surfaces, it can live outside the body. This is not an STD right, So if you're just quote unquote avoiding gay sex like that is not the end all be all right. There are people that are getting this and it's spreading rapidly and we're still trying to get a hold on it. So in the meantime, wash

your fucking hands, wash the surfaces. Stay like if you feel activated with fever or legions, like, go see a doctor. How hard is this? I mean, you know, again, I think the information infrastructure is the entity that got caught with their pants down. I think that in a way, we are just really behind the curve here, and it's and and again the other issue is the minute it gets embedded in bias or homophobia or things like that,

that just becomes what people think and remember. So then it becomes harder to give any kind of neutral information or to motivate people. And so I think, you know, there's a real there's a real emergency right now. I in no ways making light of it because this is a really serious, really painful, really scarring condition. And again, you have vesicles internally as well as externally. So you don't want this. People don't want this, you know, right now,

what am I doing? I've gotten rid of so much of my stock poll crap, and now I just ordered four more huge boxes of gloves, and so I have rubber gloves now just in case. I got some eye goggles, just in case. You know. That's that's where this is going, because I travel a lot and I'm just trying to stay up on the information. I mean, there's some pretty concerning studies that again are showing suggesting that this thing can be propelled in an aerosol way that I think

people might want to pay attention to. I don't know if that's going to be true or not, but I'd rather be safe safe than sorry. And I don't know. I haven't gone back to tell you. I'm getting back to a place where I just like, am about to just go back to self quarantine. It like it is, it is so I mean, but it's so real that like I don't want to be on I haven't taken public transportation because I broke my toe two months ago, but I'm like, I don't want to be on public transportation.

I don't want to be in like shared spaces with people that I don't know in a way that it was just like, oh, the world is open back up, and I'm like, we're never going to enter back into a space I don't believe because of politics of going back into quarantine in order to keep people safe, because people are crazy, right. So the reality is is that you're going to have to take in your own information and make choices about how you're about how you're moving

and existing. And the fact is that we have two major friggan viruses that like result in serious injury and depth. Ye like we're just having conversations now. And also it's understanding the effects of long term of long term COVID, yeah, you know. And also our epidemics are mirroring our political dysfunction, right, So it's just it's all these things. It's a it's a perfect storm, and I don't know, and until we

figure this out, I mean, I don't know. I ninety million per L's if anybody needs a per L. If you get on the airplane, take the take the wipe down thing they give you. But I mean it's it's it's you know, it's you know, the other issue is if you were born before nineteen seventy two, you might have some lingering protection from the smallpox vaccine, which they

stopped giving in the early nineteen seventies. So I mean, just be careful right now, because you know, I would bet you by the time we talk next week, there's going to be a lot more information. Even I just feel like we I mean, and there are people who've been trying to sound the alarm on this and have been not listened to. In fact, they were the same people who tried to sound the alarm back COVID. So but I don't know, there's still time for us to

correct course here. I know we have a big vaccine shipment coming in in October, so everybody is to just be really careful till October and then we can all go back to Spotcastle, which I miss dearly. Um and so um. You know, but I would just say right now, I think you're it's good to be wary, it's good to be suspicious. It's just I don't know. We sound like conservatives, don't, We like we don't trust the government.

But it's not it's not that I don't trust. See, It's not that I don't trust the government in terms. I just don't think that they are sounding the alarm. So it's actually the different from conservatives, like I don't think that they're sounding the alarm on this in the way that they Yeah, yeah, I want I want PSAs.

I want a fireside chat. I want you know, regular you know, updates at one o'clock in the afternoon on every fucking channel that tells us where we are with COVID, where we are with monkey pox, and how to keep

yourself safe. Right, I want a town hall right before back to school about what you need to do with your fucking kids, on top of giving them bulletproof backpacks like Jesus Christ, you know in other countries, on top of every hour the you'll hear three beeps and then a national news broadcast that's like from BBC or I don't know, it's an utuel day have, like you know, just national radio, and everybody's like, oh, yeah, we trust it, Like I don't know. I wish I wish we had

some neutral information. And the funny thing is when I interviewed conservatives about COVID, they would all say, I wish we had neutral information. I'm like, yeah, you're at home writing reading brightebart give me a break. But that's the thing, is like, at times like this, you just want to know the information, like what is risk, what is protection? What should I do? And right now we're having a

hard time getting that out. I mean optimistically though, this is about as good as it's going to get, so I enjoy it. Oh Jesus Christ, job, we're ending on that note. I mean, you know, by the time this this errors, will know the outcome of some pretty important votes today. So um, so you know today could be a turning point or on one way or another. So one way or another there We'll be back next week. Both doctor Jonathan Metzl, author of Dying of Whiteness, and

our in house doctor here on Woke. F we appreciate you. Stay safe everyone. That is it for me today, dear friends on Woke app as always, power to the people and to all the people. Power, get woke and stay woke as fuck. Get a behind the scenes look at Comedy Central's The Daily Show on Beyond the Scenes, an original podcast from the Daily Show with Trevor Noah. Every week, host Roy Wood Junior goes deeper with the notable guests

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