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A murder mystery set in steampunk Cairo, with lesbians, wizards and jokes! What could possibly go wrong?
Jun 05, 2022•1 hr 3 min•Ep. 35
Wizards Vs. Lesbians
A queer sf review podcast about the emerging wizards vs. lesbians microgenre.
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THE THOUSAND EYES
It's the sequel to the Wizzly-winning Unspoken Name! And we like it just about as much, which is to say, a lot. Possibly more, even.
May 22, 2022•1 hr 28 min•Ep. 34
PROVENANCE
We stretched our remit to the breaking point with this one, but Ann Leckie definitely helped usher in the current W vs L zeitgeist so we felt the need to cover her work. Provenance is a social sciences murder mystery, Cherryhesque in both its style and execution, and a lot of fun.
May 08, 2022•1 hr 1 min•Ep. 33
PRIORY OF THE ORANGE TREE
Today's book is a listener suggestion, and a bit of a throwback! It's an epic fantasy brick, what we hear is referred to as a "cat squasher" in some circles. It reminded us of the books we used to plow through as teenagers in the 90s, but, crucially, with lesbians. Despite it violating our cardinal rule ("be short, please") we really enjoyed this one.
Apr 28, 2022•1 hr 7 min•Ep. 32
THIS IS HOW YOU LOSE THE TIME WAR
Certainly the most romantic book we've done so far, and at the same time one of the wildest in terms of its worldbuilding. An epistolary novella about two immortal far-future warriors falling in love.
Apr 10, 2022•1 hr 5 min•Ep. 31
THE MIDNIGHT LIE
It's a real meat'n'potatoes wizards vs lesbians - a gay orphan is content being raised by a bad mom in a colonized fantasy nation with a caste system (sumptuary laws!) before an alluring butch arrives from overseas to upset the applecart. The ending is where it sets itself apart a bit - but you'll have to read it (or listen to us) to find out how.
Mar 27, 2022•59 min•Ep. 30
SHORT FICTION ROUNDUP #1
It's our first short fiction anthology show! This one features: How to Swallow the Moon by Isabel Yap Florilega; Or Some Lies About Flowers by Amal El-Mohtar The Demon-Sage's Daughter by Varsha Dinesh Which are increasingly weird adaptations of mythopoetic traditions from around the world (The Philippines, Wales and Kerala, specifically.)
Mar 14, 2022•1 hr 6 min•Ep. 29
LIGHT FROM UNCOMMON STARS
This is a book about a trans runaway who is a survival sex worker and a violin prodigy and the demons and aliens she encounters in suburban LA but it is mostly about eating really amazing meals in restaurants. Isaac LOVED this one, but it is Not Without Its Problems.
Feb 27, 2022•1 hr 8 min•Ep. 28
GIRLS OF PAPER AND FIRE
What if you took a standard romance novel setup - girl abducted and made to serve in the harem of the handsome prince - and really leaned into how awful that would be in real life? You'd get this, a YA novel whose major tone is the suffocating dread of violent sexual assault, but with forbidden lesbian romance and a clan of secret ninjas thrown into the mix. It's a challenging one.
Feb 13, 2022•59 min•Ep. 27
BONUS - 1ST ANNUAL WIZZLY AWARDS!
We've been doing this for a year! Unbelievably! To celebrate, it's time for one of my favorite podcast tropes: the silly award show, in which we discuss who the best lesbian is, who the best wizard is, and so forth.
Feb 06, 2022•57 min
GIRL SERPENT THORN
There's a girl trapped in a tower, a handsome prince comes to save her, and then everything goes wrong. Thankfully there's a lesbian moth demon there to help.
Jan 30, 2022•1 hr 2 min•Ep. 26
BONUS EPISODE: HOMESTUCK
I mean, what is there to say?
Jan 23, 2022•59 min
REVOLUTIONARY GIRL UTENA
It's our 25th episode, and so we're going to discuss an anime that is very important to us, and which is absolutely a foundational text in the wizards vs lesbians idiom. We could fill up multiple podcasts talking about this show, and just might, if provoked.
Jan 17, 2022•1 hr 12 min•Ep. 25
THE DYKE AND THE DYBBUK
It's another retro episode! This one to takes us back to gay London in the 1990s, where a queer cab driver named Rainbow is being haunted not only by her variously-kosher gaggle of aunts but by an actual dybbuk, unleashed upon her to fulfill a centuries-old curse. It's Good Omens but Jewish and with lesbians - what's not to like?
Jan 03, 2022•1 hr 11 min•Ep. 24
THE RAVEN AND THE REINDEER
It's an accidental holiday episode! The Raven and the Reindeer is a retelling of Hans Christian Andersen's The Snow Queen by T Kingfisher, AKA Ursula Vernon, furry webcomic artist of the old school. And it's great - keeps all the weirdness of the original and adds a whole shovelful of gay.
Dec 19, 2021•1 hr 6 min•Ep. 23
BLACK WATER SISTER
The rare modern contemporary wizards vs lesbians novel, set here and now. It's about a young woman of Malaysian Chinese descent who returns to Penang under difficult circumstances and has to deal, among other things, with the ghost of her grandmother. An extremely solid piece of work: If you have any litfic snobs in your circle, this is the one to break 'em in with.
Dec 05, 2021•1 hr 1 min•Ep. 22
FOUNDRYSIDE
It's Foundryside! This is a book that we think might have been better as an anime, or an action movie, or a miniseries, or a comic - pretty much anything but a very long novel that seems to care mostly about setting up the pieces for the very long series of sequels to come. But we might think that because it has the best action sequence writing of any book we've discussed so far, and also because the lesbian has a wisecracking inanimate object companion to help her in her anti-wizard cause....
Nov 21, 2021•58 min•Ep. 21
BEARLY A LADY
In a slight departure for us we are discussing a romance novel - a romance novella, in fact - a romance novella starring a werebear who works at Vogue. It's self-identified "chick lit" but it's also Wizards vs Lesbians, or at least close enough, so we discuss it (and also spend quite a long time talking about the theory that queer desire itself is the revolutionary moment.)
Nov 07, 2021•1 hr 4 min•Ep. 20
SHE WHO BECAME THE SUN
So, what if the founder of the Ming Dynasty was a lesbian? That is the question this book dares to ask, and it does a really good job answering it. A rollicking, morally complex historical fantasy which is one of my favorite contemporary books we've read for this project.
Oct 24, 2021•1 hr 18 min•Ep. 19
THE JASMINE THRONE
A mainline wizards vs lesbians empire narrative, this one, set in fantasy South Asia. It's a long old read but the characters are good - particularly the colonial governor's wife, a hall of fame eminence gris.
Oct 10, 2021•1 hr 1 min•Ep. 18
BONUS EPISODE: STEERSWOMAN
It's our first ever bonus episode! This series was initially disqualified due to lack of lesbians but our guest, the author P.H. Lee, argues that the lesbianism is subtextual. Whether that's true or not, this is a classic SF series for a reason and contains both a bromance for the ages between our adventure librarian hero and her barbarian companion and some premium wizard behavior.
Oct 04, 2021•1 hr 16 min
THE FORTUNATE FALL
Retro episode! In this one we tackle a forgotten classic of 90s cyberpunk, recommended by a listener. It's insane and we had a tremendous amount of fun with it. (Thanks to Isaac's internet son Olive for providing the intro and inspiring him to make a busload of terrible techno jingles.)
Sep 26, 2021•1 hr 4 min•Ep. 17
THE SPACE BETWEEN WORLDS
This one's a hoot. A fast, funny, nasty book about interdimensional colonialism and structural inequality which manages to fold all manner of economic, racial and gender dynamics into a story which still manages to be a gripping tale of adventure featuring Evil Steve Jobs.
Sep 12, 2021•1 hr 7 min
THE UNBROKEN
We journey to Fantasy Algeria for today's episode, where the Princess of Fantasy France has arrived to review her colony, only to have her life saved and (in due course) her heart stolen by a captain in her colonial guard. This one goes deep on the emotional consequences of empire and the conflicting loyalties that arise in conquered peoples, but maintains that focus by ignoring or eliding factors that are arguably just as central to those dynamics as race.
Sep 01, 2021•1 hr 1 min•Ep. 15
FIRE LOGIC
A strange book, this - tremendously awful things happen in it but one leaves with the impression that everything might turn out all right if we all just listen to each other. Comfortable, well-written, and features a magical giant blacksmith lesbian who talks to crows.
Aug 16, 2021•1 hr 13 min•Ep. 14
A DESOLATION CALLED PEACE
We're back to Teixcalaan for another dose of diplomatic/linguistic foofaraw. This is a very comfortable book, and we discuss how nice it is that the legacy of CJ Cherryh lives on, Except With Lesbians. I could read another fifty of these, honestly.
Aug 01, 2021•1 hr 16 min•Ep. 13
UNCONQUERABLE SUN
It's Alexander the Great, but in space, with lesbians! And she wins American Idol?? Fair warning: one of us really hated this book.
Jul 19, 2021•1 hr 5 min•Ep. 12
THE CITY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT
Here we have a book about being in love with a creep - same-sex attraction, it turns out, is not proof against such things - and about attempting to colonize a planet inimical to human life and the problems that arise therefrom. This is another bleak one, with the escape hatch at the end difficult to describe in real human terms, but it has its charms.
Jul 05, 2021•1 hr 3 min•Ep. 11
DIVINE ENDURANCE
A girl and her cat (or is it a cat and her girl?) wander away from the factory where they were built and discover what remains of human civilization in a deeply poetic/depressing journey down the Indochinese peninsula to the sea. It's a downer, but it's Isaac's favorite book we've done so far!
Jun 20, 2021•1 hr 9 min•Ep. 10
GREEN
Chaos! Intrigue! Murder cults! Fantasy racism! Problematic content as far as the eye can see! It's Green, and we're talking about it.
Jun 06, 2021•1 hr 1 min•Ep. 9
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