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With That Being Said

Esther Boykin
Join Esther Boykin and Erica Turner, two licensed marriage & family therapists who run Therapy is Not a Dirty Word- a collection of workshops, retreats, happy hours, and other awesome ways to bring people and therapists together in real life. We bring professional expertise into beautiful, fun, and inspiring settings to make the wisdom of therapy more accessible to everyone. With that being said… let’s start the podcast! |Psst... podcasts aren't therapy. Please consult a health professional in person for real life help as needed|
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Episodes

It's Always You... Even When It's Them

In this episode of "With That Being Said", Esther and Erica share about the importance of setting AND communicating your boundaries with others. No relationship is without boundaries, so Esther and Erica discuss how you can communicate your boundaries even when it's difficult, and why they believe boundaries are actually necessary to form meaningful connections. If you enjoy "With That Being Said" and want more of Esther and Erica, check out their Instagram Live Show "Live with E+E" on Tuesday's...

Jan 28, 202046 minSeason 3Ep. 5

Episode with James Bland

In this episode of "With That Being Said", Esther and Erica talk with special guest James Bland! James is a content creator, film maker, actor, writer, producer, and director. He is the creator, show runner and star of the award winning digital drama, Giants. Esther, Erica and James discuss the stigma around mental health, especially in communities of color, and how James is using his platform in Hollywood to help end it. They also discuss the truth about what mental illness looks like, the impo...

Jan 14, 202036 minSeason 3Ep. 4

How Long is this Gonna Take?!

In this episode of "With That Being Said", Esther and Erica discuss how to set realistic expectations for therapy and answer the frequently asked question from clients - "How long is this going to take?" (spoiler: you probably won't like the answer). Esther and Erica also share how things like doing the work between sessions, consistency, and being honest with your therapist can really help move the process along! If you enjoy "With That Being Said" and want more of Esther and Erica, check out t...

Dec 17, 20191 hr 6 minSeason 3Ep. 3

Technology Won't Save You

On this episode of "With That Being Said", Esther and Erica discuss the times when technology is actually getting in the way of our relationships with others. Don't worry, this isn't like a lecture from your mom about how your cellphone is going to kill you. Esther and Erica take the stance that in general technology can assist relationships, but the problem is when technology is used to avoid all awkward and uncomfortable conversations. With more and more people struggling with feeling lonely, ...

Dec 03, 201957 minSeason 3Ep. 2

Unpopular Opinion About Forgiveness

On this episode of "With That Being Said", Esther and Erica share their "unpopular" opinion about forgiveness. They dive into the complexities of forgiveness, from the strict dictionary definition definition, to why there seems to be so much value placed on forgiveness. Esther and Erica make the case that forgiveness is a process, and not a destination and sometimes it's choosing between what takes more energy: to hate or to forgive. If you enjoy "With That Being Said" and want more of Esther an...

Nov 05, 201957 minSeason 3Ep. 1

Don't Be Listening To Your Lil Instagram Friend

On this episode of "With That Being Said", Esther and Erica discuss all the internet advice you're reading and need to stop. They'll share examples of: - bad advice they've seen online, and what makes it bad - advice that isn't bad, but isn't good for you And will share tips on how you can evaluate what advice is helpful to you and what advice is not. Upcoming Events Mentioned: - Viva Vienna (May 25-27th, 2019): more information about the event available at http://vivavienna.org/default.aspx - T...

Apr 30, 201954 minSeason 2Ep. 8

Let's Talk About Sex with Pam Costa

On this episode of "With That Being Said" we chat with sex and relationship coach Pam Costa. We'll discuss a range of topics related to sex, including the importance of having a community you can talk candidly with about sex (especially for women!), what you can expect in sex therapy, and about open and poly-amorous relationships. Pam's Website: www.downtothere.com Circles: www.downtothere.com/circles Pam's TEDx Talk: "Reclaiming Female Sexual Desire"...

Apr 16, 201955 minSeason 2Ep. 7

Self Care with Jerico Mandybur

On this episode of "With That Being Said" we chat with writer and self-care advocate Jerico Mandybur about how to manage your self-care and reclaim what brings you joy. We also discuss the role of social media in our lives, self-exploration and Tarot. Jerico's Tarot Book and Deck available NOW - Neo Tarot: A Fresh Approach to Self-Care, Healing & Empowerment Jerico's Website: jericomandybur.com Jerico's Instagram: @jerico.mandybur

Apr 02, 201940 minSeason 2Ep. 6

Bad Parents

On this episode of "With That Being Said" Esther and Erica discuss two tragic cases of 'what were the parents thinking?' and discuss why it's not helpful -- and even dangerous -- to view people as wholly bad or good. *Warning: this episode contains an audio clip about sexual assault that some listeners may find triggering. Twitter Video: pic.twitter.com/tQcA4Ogk91 Abducted in Plain Sight: https://www.netflix.com/title/81000864...

Mar 19, 20191 hr 4 minSeason 2Ep. 5

Our Fave TV Couples

In this episode Esther and Erica share their 3 favorite TV couples - who they think have the ingredients for a successful marriage (with some debate of course). *Spoiler Alert: the shows are linked below so don't click the link if you don't want to know the picks yet!* -- The 'Good Enough' Couple -- The 'Has The Potential To Go The Distance' Couple -- The 'All Time Favorite' Couple...

Mar 05, 20191 hr 13 minSeason 2Ep. 4

Getting to know Erica

As we settle into our second season of the podcast, Esther and Erica finally decide it's time you get to know more about them! Tune in to find out what makes Erica Turner, LMFT really tick. Here are Erica's most influential books: The History of Love, Nicole Krauss - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0393328627/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_cIlACb4TJ31FH The Unbearable Lightness of Being, Milan Kundera - https://www.amazon.com/dp/0061148520/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_KDlACb8BVSAH6 Becoming Attached, Robert Karen -...

Feb 19, 201930 minSeason 2Ep. 3

Who is Esther, really?

As we settle into our second season of the podcast, Esther and Erica finally decide it's time you get to know more about them! Tune in to find out what makes Esther Boykin, LMFT really tick. Here are Esther's 5 most influential books: Slaughter House 5, Kurt Vonnegut - https://amzn.to/2DiJmb2 Temple of My Familiar, Alice Walker - https://amzn.to/2SGLPR2 Their Eyes Were Watching God, Zora Neal Hurston - https://amzn.to/2yMF9IT The Gift of Therapy, Irvin Yalom - https://amzn.to/2QbY9qU The 8 Habit...

Feb 12, 201921 minSeason 2Ep. 2

I'll Never Retreat

In today's episode Esther and Erica discuss the pros and cons of going on a retreat. Erica makes the case that it's a lot like taking your work on vacation with you and Esther sets out to convince her otherwise... Want to read about the couple who run away from their marriage retreat? Here's the link - https://www.salon.com/2010/05/13/escape_from_marriage_retreat_hell/ And if you haven't watched Couples Retreat, check it out here https://amzn.to/2DcylYD so you can accurately judge Esther's movie...

Oct 31, 201836 minSeason 2Ep. 1

Jay-Z Is Making Therapist Porn

Nearly every therapist fantasizes about creating a space where men are comfortable to openly discuss their feelings and relationships. And this fall JAy-Z made all our dreams come true! Tune in to hearEsther and Erica swoon over the 4:44 video as the men tackle topics like love, infidelity, masculinity, and role modelswith vulnerability, honesty, and insight that would make any therapist proud.

Dec 29, 20171 hr 11 minSeason 1Ep. 15

#10 It Takes a Village with Sequoia Blodgett

Today we are joined by entrepreneur Sequoia Blodgett, star of ABC Family's StartUp U and founder of 7AM Life. Check out episodes of StartUp U online be sure to visit www.7am.life . You can also follow Sequoia on Twitter and Instagram . Show Notes RLW {Read Listen Watch}: Read Erica's pick- Ghettoized by Jill Leovy THERAPIST PROBLEMS: Interested in the article Esther mentioned about swearing? Here it is... 5 Reasons I Don’t Give An Eff About Swearing In Front Of My Kids by Kate Levkoff ( @nursing...

Aug 25, 201750 min

#9 Adulting is Hard

Today we are joined by 4 smart, funny, and brutally honest college students for a frank discussion on what it means to really become an adult in the modern age. Show Notes RLW {Read Listen Watch}: Read Esther's pick- Fascinate: Your 7 Triggers to Persuasion and Captivation by Sally Hogshead Want to get a free report on your 7 triggers? Visit www.howtofascinate.com and use promo code JOY-EstherB Read Erica's pick- Modern Romance by Aziz Ansari and Eric Klinenberg THERAPIST PROBLEMS: Don't forget ...

Aug 25, 20171 hr 38 min

#11 Your Therapist is Anxious with Jodi Aman

Today we are joined by Jodi Aman, therapist and author of You 1, Anxiety 0: win your freedom back from fear and panic. Don't forget to follow her on Twitter and Instagram for more tips and encouragement to embrace what you feel on your journey to emotional freedom. Show Notes RLW {Read Listen Watch}: Watch Esther's pick- { can't see the Sidewalk Talk video? click here .} Watch Erica's pick - { can't see the empathy video? Click Here } THERAPIST PROBLEMS: We want to hear your thoughts! Leave your...

Aug 18, 20171 hr 11 min

#12 Get Your Life with Mo Seetubtim

Today we are joined by Mo Seetubtim, founder of the blog Brandmentalist and creator of The Happiness Planner . Mo's passion for living with intention and passion is inspiring and the complex relationship with her parents bring a refreshing perspective to what could've been just another pretty blog. Don't miss her beautiful and thoughtful messages- follow her on Twitter and Instagram . Show Notes RLW {Read Listen Watch}: Listen to Erica's pick- Reply All podcast - Episode #64: On the Inside THERA...

Aug 11, 20171 hr 16 min

#13 Alone in the Burbs with Traci Ruble

Today we are joined by Traci Ruble of Psyched in San Francisco and the founder/director of Sidewalk Talk. Traci is one of those rare people who I (Esther) immediately clicked with on seemingly every level- basically she rocks. Tune in as Erica gently pulls us out of our mutual suburban angst with some spot on insights on life in the city. We will also talk about the joys of listening - on the street and in our offices! Be sure you follow her on Twitter , Facebook , and Instagram . Show Notes RLW...

Aug 04, 201758 min

#8 Black People Really Do Go To Therapy with Minaa B

Today we are joined by Minaa B. of RespectYourStruggle.com . Minaa is a on a mission and the first day of Black History month is the perfect time for us to share it. As therapists, black women, and human beings in general we admire her courage in sharing her personal struggle and love how she has used it to give voice to so many others. Tune in now as we talk about how #TherapyIsNotADirtyWord and why talking about our struggle is the first step to overcoming it. LISTEN NOW SHOW NOTES Be sure to ...

Jul 21, 20171 hr 4 min

#7 Pajamas All Day with Tara Jefferson

It's seems rather apropros that in the aftermath of one of the east coast's worst snow storms that today's episode is all about wearing pajamas all day! Erica and I are joined by Tara Jefferson of the YoungMommyLife.com to talk about self-care, motherhood, and why sometimes pajamas all day is the only answer. LISTEN NOW SHOW NOTES You can find more about Tara at TheYoungMommyLife.com . Be sure to follow her on Twitter and Instagram for more information on her excited new venture the Self Care Bo...

Jul 14, 201741 min

#6 Who wants to be happy: with Chianti Lomax

Seems like an obvious question... don't we all want to be happy? Maybe so but we also put up some serious barriers to happiness, including how we choose to define and how we open our heart to it (or not). On today's show we are joined by speaker, consultant, coach, and 'happiness curator', Chianti Lomax for a serious discussion of what it really means to be happy. Chianti has a passion for positive psychology and millennial which combines into a pretty awesome interview. Tune in now to discover ...

Jul 14, 20171 hr 3 min

#5 Motherhood Isn't Everything with Maimah Karmo

It feels almost blasphemous as a mom to say that motherhood isn't everything in my life... and yet it's not. And I don't think it should be. { gasp } On today's episode of With That Being Said, Erica and I chat with Maimah Karmo about the role passion, purpose, and parenthood have in her life and the lives of women everywhere. Maimah is a philanthropist, author, speaker, and pretty amazing mom who believes that there is more to life than just meeting the needs of others- even if "others" means y...

Jul 07, 20174 min

#3 Let's Heal Our Ish with Laura Probert

Today Esther and Erica tackle the sometimes ambiguous idea of awareness. With their guest expert, Laura Probert, we discover that "the difference between living a life that feels meh and living a life that feels magical" is learning to be vulnerable. Laura is a physical therapist, poet, and wellness expert who has made it her mission to help people get out of their heads and into their bodies. Join the conversation and listen in as Laura explains why awareness is "the difference between living a...

Jun 30, 201743 min

#4 Let's Get Hitched With Steve Cooper

Today Esther and Erica are joined by Steve Cooper of HitchedMag.com to talk all things married life. Listen in as they talk about the ups and downs and genuine joys of being a couple and investing in a healthy relationship. And find out why Steve is in fact the 'Hugh Hefner' of marriage! It's by far the most accurate and favorite nickname of any guest so far... SHOW NOTES HitchedMag.com | Follow Steve on Twitter @HitchedMedia RLW {Read Listen Watch} Read Masters of Love in The Atlantic Listen to...

Jun 30, 201740 min

#2 Marriage is not that hard

Marriage is work but is it really that hard? Esther and Erica discuss the joys and challenges of married life, which may not be hard as we seem to think it is. Join the conversation as we talk about all the ways we make the 'work' of marriage harder than it has to be. And don't miss this episode's RLW {Read, Listen, Watch} where Erica shares her thoughts on the interesting way we all hold our own truths ... especially in marriage. With That Being Said, don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review...

Jun 23, 201751 min

#1 Love is Not a Drive-Thru

Today Esther Boykin and Erica Turner are joined by writer, speaker, and dating expert, Kevin Carr. Kevin chats with us about all the reasons love is not a drive-thru and why killing your dreams is sometimes the key to finding your happily ever after. SHOW NOTES Kevin Carr: www.kevinscarr.com Twitter @Kev_Carr Instagram #WhatI’mLearningAboutDating @kev_carr Meet Kevin IRL along with Esther and Erica at Cocktails and Conversations on Love in DC {Jan 20,2016} RLW {Read Listen Watch} The Man Who Was...

Jun 14, 201756 min

#0 - With That Being Said, Welcome to Our Podcast

We've got a fresh new look and are busy recording some fresh new episodes! Check out the new look while catching up on our original episodes for the next several weeks. With That Being Said is a long conversation about life, love, and everything in between. Hosted by therapists and relationship experts Esther Boykin and Erica Turner this podcast dedicated to giving listeners smart, fun, insightful advice on life, love, and everything in between.

May 19, 20179 min
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