I STILL KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER

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Right, because if you're saying, I still know what you did last summer, it sounds like the summer when they were... Being hunted by a killer. Yeah, the first one. You're right, I never thought about that. He's saying... First of all, I love that the title is The Thought of the Killer. Yes, yes. But he's saying...

I still know what you did last summer, and that was run from me. Right, right, right. That's not a crime? I know. I thought about that, too, when they showed her at college at the beginning. Because usually in a sequel, when the person's at college, you know, like Scream 2. It's like, hey, we're sitting in a completely different setting. They're at college now. But I was like...

Oh, with this, it's actually the end of her sophomore year because of the first one. It ends up at the end of her freshman year. So there's all kinds of funny little trickeries when you put still. In your sequel title. Yeah. Do you think there's any other sequels where you could put still? And it would work as well as I still know what you did last summer. Still Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade. Yes, that's good.

Still the one. No, still sim one. Still sim one? Simone. You made a Simone reference. What could you do? There aren't many titles like I Know What You Did Last Summer. It's a great title. Yes. The second title, it's problematic. Well, and also that it makes it hard to know what to call these movies when I was writing down in the notes. What's this franchise called? Is it called the...

No Last Summer? Is it The Last Summer? Last Summer, but... But that's not... It doesn't get at the... Because the Straight to Video one, the third one is called... I'll always know what you did last time, which is like, it's a good progression. Yeah. I mean, I get why they did. I still know what else could you have done? I haven't seen it, but I,

I have to presume it's not what I hope it is, which is a crossover between a last summer movie and always with Richard Dreyfuss. Amanda, hi! Hi! Oh my gosh! That's awfully nice of you. Thank you, Amanda. Say hi to the live streamers. Amanda brought us coffee. That's so thoughtful. Thank you. There's a little delay, but there will be, I'm sure. Oh, there's a high, Amanda. Stunning, stunning queen.

I'm just always saying this, right? Yeah, even before you walked in, they were just like, Amanda's a queen. Amanda's a queen. We were just talking about Amanda Plummer. Thank you. I didn't expect you to come in the secret entrance. I like that. That was very slashery. I know. Yeah. I was scared. Because I know what you did last summer movie. I thought you were going to be in a rain slicker with a little hat.

Well, thanks again, Amanda. That's very thoughtful. Sorry for that interruption of domestic bliss. Yeah, yeah. Pardon the apologies that you had a little light in your life, everybody. Oh my God, lighten up. You know how Tom Segura's fans, they get real upset when he talks about his Rolex watches and his luxury cars. People will be like...

I didn't know he did that, and I didn't know they did that. Oh, I'll give you everything you need to know on the Seguraverse. I've never listened to a show, but I'll listen to commentators. who like unpack what happened and it's like a little like watching sports center for sports that you don't watch it's just like there's something satisfying about like the passion and uh detail that somebody will put into It's a name. I love it. Burt Kirshner? Brett. Burt. Burt?

Wait, Tom Segura? Tom Segura and Bert Kreishner. I was just going to bring him up because I was going to say you could put them up on that screen and I couldn't tell you which is which, I don't think. But the fact that I said... Kirschner instead of Kreischer makes me think I would love an Irvin Kirschner impression where he's just doing Burt Kreischer. He's the one that takes his shirt off all the time? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I do that because, you know, they say imagine your audience naked.

But what if the audience imagined me naked, but it wasn't imagination and I was, but then I was wearing a Rolex and I, you know, a Rolex, you put it off on the night and you put it on this little saddle. This is what I'm told. And because it's self-winding, the saddle's a rocker, and it winds it at night as if you're walking and winding the Rolex. That's my understanding. Is that true? That's what I was told.

I, of course, I mean, I have a Rolex. Did, oh, you got your Rolex. It was a gift from Yoda. That's right. She's very classy, that Yoda, giving watches. A lot of people don't know when we were shooting The Empire Strikes Back and Yoda's in his little adobe hut or whatever. I couldn't be concerned with the finer details because I was into the drama! In his little kettle that he's cooking up a stew. Yeah, a stew. It's a kettle full of Rolexes. And you can just come in and get one. It's like...

What's in the movie where someone's rich and there's just a bowl of... of things, uh, or like a tray of jewels or gold things. What movie is that? Oh, it's Godfather three. When they pass around a tray of jewels and gold pieces at the big summit. Yeah. That's where they pass around the, old phone in part two in part two remember no I I still know what you godfathered last summer? Yeah. I still Corleone-ed what you did last godfather. Anyway, I gotta go. I'm doing a stand-up tour.

Well, Irvin, thank you for coming. I know I pimped you a little bit to come on here. I don't mind being pimped. I don't mind. See you later. It's great to talk to everyone. Bye. I heard also that, you know, in the original script for Empire Strikes Back, instead of Yoda using his powers to bring up Luke's X-Wing out of the swamp. It was just him setting the time on his watch.

People are like, I don't know. It feels like his powers are stronger lifting up a spaceship rather than moving the small gears inside a watch. He seems a little materialistic if that's the case, too. Do they even really have watches? Oh, this is going to be really funny. Listen to what I'm about to say. say as yoda bling i have isn't that so funny when you take kind of like a modern word and you have yoda say it i think that's really funny

Swagger I have. Lives rent-free in my head, it does. Oh, no. Oh, no. That's been one that's been bugging me lately. This on our ongoing conversation about internet idioms that drive us crazy. Yes, and the one that I was telling you that bothers me is the... Just to cite what we were just talking about. What's your favorite Godfather movie, and why is it part two? Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, okay. The perfect Yoda stew doesn't exist. The perfect Yoda stew doesn't exist.

I love Yoda's clickbait articles. I tell myself, you know, that's the... Great Jedi mind trick, getting you to click on that headline. I would take Yoda doing clickbaits. Oh, it'd be the best. Zero fucks were given that day. All the feels. Fucks, there were no given that day. Is that how you would syntax, Yoda syntax it? Zero fucks given. No, yeah, right, right, right. Given that day, zero fucks were.

Yes, yes. I mean, in Last Jedi, he does say about the ancient Jedi texts. Oh, yeah. Just let that sink in. He goes... Page turners, they were not. That's right. It's like, I didn't even know you guys had paper. Much less page turners. But they also don't have watches. You never see... They don't. Luke has a calm watch. Remember on the Tauntaun, where Han or Luke... But it doesn't... There's no suggestion there's time on it. There's no suggestion there's time!

That's right. Is anybody talking time? Parsecs, they use it as time. It's a distance here, but it's somehow used as a time there. So that's the time. Somebody's like, oh my God, I'm running 10 parsecs late for my big job interview with Chewy. And if you're not 10 parsecs early, you're 10 parsecs late. Yeah, if you're not. And if Chewy's your boss.

you uh you get in trouble he's not like one of those cool bosses like well just you know you come and go as long as you get your work done he's like Pull your arms out of your sockets. Peter Mayhew, who's inside the Chewy costume, very chill boss. I would show up half hour late sometimes. They're like, hey, as long as you get your work done, it's okay, man. There's just a stack of copying that needs to be done. So whatever.

You get to it. He sounds like a sort of like a butler. That's what he sounds like. Mr. Hamill, may I take your wet jacket from the Dagobah swamp? Okay, guys, you came to listen to I Still Know What You Did Last Summer Analysis, and you're getting some great Mayhew impressions. We'll get to it. We're getting to it. We'll get to the intro right here. Hey, you're listening to...

Gorley and Rust. This is Matt Gorley. And I am Paul Rust. This is a podcast where we watch fun, scary movies, thrillers, and we... But we do it in a very relaxed, cozy fashion. I mean, I'm sitting on a cozy couch right now. I'm drinking a cozy coffee brought to us by your lovely wife. Cozy wife. And we're here on the live screen with our friends. Yep.

Having good chats. We got a good crowd today. It's a summer's day. You can hear more if you're just a free feed listener by going to patreon.com slash with Gourley and Russ where you can get feature length film commentaries, mailbag episodes. And coming this month, the annual Cozy Awards, where we are always joined by our boys that help us out so greatly on here, Brantley Palmer, our wonderful researcher. Umar Ditter, who's our numbers man, and Dustin Kraft.

Guess what? Today is his birthday. Oh, very cool. Happy birthday, Dustin. Happy birthday, Dustin. That's awesome. And yeah, if you're a trustee who's listening to this one week early. You're getting to hear this on the 4th of July, correct? That's right. This comes out on our nation's birthday. And also the time and play the time. I still know what you did last summer. But there wasn't many, I mean, I guess maybe because they're in the Bahamas in this movie, there's not a lot of like...

Independence Day celebrations. Going on there? No. But they don't really make use of the holiday with this. I know. Show me. Hey, give me one sparkler. Yeah. Shove a sparkler into the rain slicker guy's eyes. Up your ass. Shove a sparkler up your ass. I wish the rain, the fishermen, whatever. I wish he had a more distinctive name.

Yeah, he's just Will Barton. What is it? Will... Will, but they don't... Yeah, he should have a... Like, there's Ghostface. There's Michael. Yeah. Either give him a name that's like his real name that's being said like constantly so it sticks in the... you know, your brain pan, like Michael Myers, or give him like a nickname, like the Fisher dude. Yeah. The catcher. Is he, are they always...

forcing it to rain in these movies, even though it's the height of summer, so that they can justify him wearing this rain slicker? Because at this point, I don't think you need to do that. No, yeah, and I like how he wears it like... all over like when they go to the dance club and she sees them behind them like that is so funny to imagine

Like he would already have so many eyes on him, this like ancient man showing up at a dance club for college kids. But then he's dressed up in a rain slicker. Unless they're like, that's a cool rave look. But is she imagining that or is that real? Because I was reading that they were trying to... Okay, Matt, you bring up a good point. Okay. Okay, so when I'm watching this, I'm like, oh, they're definitely doing the, yeah. And then Brantley Palmer.

As always, beautiful notes, my friend. Thank you so much. It's the notes between the notes with Brantley. Yes, yes. But right, in the notes, it talks about how they were trying to embrace this idea that she... like experiencing trauma? Is she really seeing the things there or not? So I was thinking that when I was watching the movie, like, okay, when is it real? When is it imaginary? The dance club one I thought was particularly interesting because she doesn't see him sneaking behind her.

Only the audience does. Good point. And same with the one when he comes in the room and puts... No, that's real. That one's real. When he sneaks behind her in her hotel room later. Yeah, but still, yeah. Right, but the idea of, well, if she's not seeing it in the frame at any point, is that an imagination? Because what is she imagining that she's not seeing it? It's either real or sloppy filmmaking, and we're still at an impasse here. And so I did think I was like, oh, well, that's a little...

that he can just walk around this dance club in a slicker and go unnoticed. Oh, but it's her vision. But then I was waiting for her to like have the vision moment and it didn't happen. So I was like, I guess he was really there. I guess he was. Maybe people thought he was like the coolest new DJ. Yeah. You know, that just got a whole persona. DJ wet. That's his name. That's his slasher name. Okay, good. DJ wet. DJ wet from now on.

It's tough, though, because, yeah, his trademark is that he's always wet, and it's really difficult with all of his turntables and stuff. He's always getting water on his, like... on his electronics and then when he goes to reach for a vinyl like the cardboard packaging that it comes in what would you go the sleeve yeah it's all soggy and yeah he's like it's like okay listen DJ uh uh, Fisher, DJ wet, DJ wet. Sorry.

The thing we just set up a moment ago. DJ Wet, I'm okay with your jacket sleeves being wet, but your record sleeves, I don't want them wet, okay? Except we all put up with it because you're such a good DJ because you know how to... scratched so well because you've got that hook but you ruined it in your vinyls tj oh my god if i know what you did last summer was like an 80s

franchise and so we got a music video of him with like his hook hand like scratching a record and stuff yeah that's been a real i'd say that's the biggest loss that we've had with the sort of loss of music videos is the movie tie-in video. Oh, yeah. Where you have the characters from the movie there with a pink guitar pretending to play with the band and stuff. That stuff is really good. It all peaked at.

A body double for sure. Yes, yes. The biggest, most cohesive crossover ever. For about 18 months, MTV's biggest, hottest star was Craig Wasson. I remember my sisters would run home from school and be like, turn on the TV. It's Wasson's hour. What time is it? It's the Wassoning. Yeah. Oh my God. V.J. Wasson with DJ Wet is going to be a great festival that you and I are going to go to next summer and we'll go. So right now we can say I will.

likely remember what will happen next summer. Oh my God. A year, two years from now. So Wasson's the VJ that throws to the video for DJ Wetz. song for the movie before I even finished precisely. No, you're right. Wasson's the VJ that throws to DJ wet. Yeah. I had another thing about musicians and titans for movies. Yeah. Brandy's a musician. Yep. She survives. Yep. Coolio's a musician. No, uh...

What's his name from Halloween 7? Oh, LL Cool J. No. No, no. Oh. What's his name? Buster Rhymes. Oh. Oh. Halloween Resurrection is Busta Rhymes and Halloween H2O is LL Cool J. Okay, I got everything wrong. No, no, no. But yeah, I've thought like, oh, musicians... Being in these 90s franchise movies. That's right. LL Cool J2. There's a real good track record. Kelly Rowlands in Freddy vs. Jason. Who's Kelly Rowland? One of the Destiny's child members. And she survives?

Yeah, and then Destiny's Child has that song, I'm a Survivor. Yeah. And in this movie, Jennifer Love Hewitt sings, I will survive. Oh. I got to say, if your cast includes Brandy... I don't want Jennifer Love Hewitt karaoke-ing.

I want Brandy to be karaoke. It's weird, right? And Jennifer Love Hewitt has a song on the soundtrack for this. I know. And Brandy does not. I want Brandy to have a song on the soundtrack. Brandy's like, no, if you want me, you want me as an actor, not as a musician. I could be it. I respect that. I think...

And Brandy, I mean, the character actors in this are amazing. We can talk about that. But as far as the main cast members, Brandy's my favorite actor in this. Yeah, she's good. And I have to say, remember last time when I said I remembered this being... at the theater when i worked for ticket takers yeah it was this one you know why why because brandy came to see the movie

This was at CityWalk. CityWalk, yeah, when I did the improv show in front of a bunch of people who didn't want an improv show. Did you do improv for Brandy? I don't think I did. I don't remember that being the case. But maybe. I don't know. And the improv at the theater, was that like an extension of the idea of like the improv actors who are like at the park at the Universal Studios who like are in the New York...

Like they hang out the facades in New York. Like, hey, buddy. That's what I used to do. I live in a tenement house. I'm a slumlord. I used to do that, but in the British street, that used to be the British street, and that's how I met Amanda. We both got that job and that's how we met. I always thought it was Disney that brought you two together. No, we worked at Disney together for years and never met there.

Oh my gosh. It was Universal doing that exact same job, but on what's now the Pets Street, used to be British Street. And we were, I was like a... At first I was like a Tweety upper class Brit and she was a posh British woman, but then they just changed her to a Spice Girl and me to like a Rolling Stone. And we'd have to just... Matt!

Are you saying there's pictures of the two of you together where you're dressed as Keith Richards and she's dressed as Baby Spice? I think the one we have, the picture we have, is... That is so great. Me as a Rolling Stone and her as a posh. Posh Spice. Not Posh Spice, but like a posh British woman. Posh Spice is my favorite Spice Girl, Matt. Is she really? Mm-hmm. And in high school...

My friends and I, we were discussing the Spice Girls, who are our favorite Spice Girls. I might have mentioned this before. And... as we talked about who our favorites were and who our less favorites were, it quickly became a coded way to talk about each other's girlfriends. Whoa, that's deep. I remember sensing like, oh, whoa, somebody's getting some like... low-key criticism of Tracy here by comparing her to Baby Spice. Here we go.

That is awesome. I love that picture. Do you want to show the live screen? I'll try to remember to put this up on the Patreon post too. Look at it, everybody. Is that cool? Where was that? Taken at, like specifically at Universal? In the break room. Okay. So this was in, we were in a room, I don't know if you know the Pet Street, but when you go there, there's like a pub at the corner. The break room was right next door to that.

Ah, that makes sense now because you can't really enter into any of those buildings next to that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, I... Was there anybody like actors who played like Buckingham Palace guards or anything like that? Because I could see you in one of those. No, I don't think they did that. They had these like Austin Powers.

go-go girls that would drive out in a mini cooper and do this like go-go dance and there was like a french cop because the french street is right behind the english street so a french cop isn't the ones with the little like hat with the strap right That's a British... Like the big black puffy hat. Those are like the palace guards. And then the bee feeders are the ones with the little short top hats and neck ruffs. But the French cops have those stiff...

Caps. Yes. Almost like a Charles de Gaulle. Yes. I'm imagining Peter Sellers wearing one for like Pink Panther stuff. No. Yeah. Maybe he did once. Sometimes he wears like a or is that more like a. There is something. No, there is something like that. Because I once performed stand-up and I came out on stage. The entire audience was Buckingham Palace guards. I was like tough crowd

That's the funniest thing I've ever heard. That is the slickest, most immediately satisfying conceptual joke I have ever heard. And it's one of those ones where I can't believe that's not been... done years ago that is brilliant you have somebody off stage is like oh my god be careful out there it's a little bit of a tough crowd the guy's like i think i can handle it then he steps out it's just like oh

What's the Queen song? Oh, Rural Britannia? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You step outside on the stage, the spotlight hits you, and then you hear... I was like, oh no. But then, well, so you just cut away to the people backstage going, oh, poor Paul, poor Paul. And then you cut back and you're just slaying with these guys. Well, as long as we're on the funny jokes about a bad crowd, I wrote a joke that was on the Comedy Bang Bang IFC show about a stand-up who performs at a...

haunted snake farm. It's like, ooh, lots of boos and hisses that day. I'm giving you two now. God bless you. At risk of using... Internet slang. You are a goddamn delight and a natural treasure. Oh, my God. Yeah, I hate that. Oh. That sort of praise, my least favorite, the most detestable form of praise that I hear on the internet that drives me nuts for a variety of reasons.

Somebody just give so-and-so all the awards. Oh, yeah. This scene was so good. Can we just give him all the awards? Because I'm always like, you normie losers. Why do you need... a committee to give an award to validate your taste. I mean, I keep my mouth shut because...

The only people who are more annoying than people who are obsessed with award shows are the people who shit on award shows. So it's like, I'm stuck. It's the same thing. And it seems like you're bitter because you don't like award, you know. When you see something online that someone says and you don't like it.

You immediately lose if you answer back or join in on it. Yes, because then you're just kind of, yeah, you're raining on somebody's parade. The best thing you can do is let it fester and keep you up at night. I think the most I can hope for is for some sort of general tide to turn. And I feel like that's happened over the last 10 years. It definitely feels like more people now are like... Film fans, non-film fans rolling their eyes a little bit to like awards.

Yeah. Right? Don't you feel like, well, just because ratings are dropping and stuff. It's not. It doesn't. Are you saying you're pro awards or anti-awards? I'm anti-awards, but I got to butt my lip about it because otherwise you're either raining on somebody's parade. who likes awards, or it's just sort of like, well, what do you care about people getting trophies? Ease up, dude. But you can, at the very least, you cannot acknowledge their awards. I think it bothers me...

somebody's joy about somebody's winning an award is I, I can tolerate that when someone's like upset that somebody didn't get an award. I'm like, well, It's not robbing the things that you liked about the person who didn't win. And when did an award really ever... With some rare exceptions, how often does an award go to the best things? You can take such comfort anytime something you like didn't win. You just go like, well, Oliver beat 2001 for best picture.

It's all bullshit. Who cares? The history books don't really hold on to the best. A trophy list doesn't speak to what was actually the best. I was just... listening to a podcast about the third man, a movie that I really love and has come to me late in life. Thanks to my good friend, James Bladen. I don't know why I was such a blind spot. Go James. Love James. Seen it recently three times.

The director, Carol Reed, who directed Oliver. Oh, yeah. His name should be Carol Singh. I mean, if he wrote Oliver Twist, then sure, your name's Carol Reed, because you're reading. But he directed a movie that's a musical. It should be like Carol Watch. But he had to read it first, Paul. That's right. There was Carol Singh. You're right. I'm sorry. Yeah.

So Carol Reed directed Third Man and Oliver. Yeah, but there's been this weird confluence of things in my life that Third Man keeps coming back up. Ooh, cool. So I'm reading this series of novels that I love called... by Philip Kerr called the, the first one's called Berlin Noir and it's a whole series called Berlin Noir. It's like mostly pre-World War II detective.

who has to like navigate the world of the nazis in the weimar republic he hates the nazis but he has to work often among them to solve these crimes and killings and stuff like that cool but i think it's the second book there's a movie being shot the whole time in Vienna and you only learn at the end when they just show this, they just talk about this one scene of a man showing up at a cafe with a book.

that you realize, oh my God, they've been shooting the third man all the time there. Oh, what a cool idea. Yeah, it's really cool. And that movie's so damn good. Yeah, it is a great movie. And it's... atmosphere is like tough to beat and then also you use this word

when we were talking about naps, which reminds me, we got to talk about the, the, uh, Freddie. Yeah. We've got a lot of tabs open. Yes. And one of our tabs is this film we're talking about. I know what you tabbed last. I still know what you tabbed. Yeah. So. remember but um the uh um the word melancholy I think the third man is maybe like one of the most like

beautifully, magnificently melancholy movies. Do you know what I think? I was listening to this podcast, this great podcast I like called Spy Hards. Cool. And it's just about espionage movies, not just Bond, all of them. And there was a guy on who had written a... book about the making of the movie talking about like how Orson Welles just doing it for money didn't want to be there most of the shots you see the famous shots of him like in the alley with the coat and it's not even him whoa but

Didn't know that. They were discussing whether is Third Man a film noir or a spy movie because they're similar often. But they're kind of a perfect mix of both, and I feel like that's where you get the melancholy, because there's a bit of a jaunt or an uplift to a spy movie, but there's a downer of a noir.

Yeah, it has the noir qualities of like you're effed no matter what kind of thing. Yeah, and visually it's certainly a noir. Yes. But the kind of, there's a humor to some of it with Harry Limes, just such a... gallivanting soul and even joseph cotton is just kind of just letting things wash over him for a bit yeah yeah oh my god and then there's so many bond people in there bernard lee is oh guy hamilton

Oh, there's a story too about how there was a fire at the studios and they had to rush in and save the film print. And the person that did it was John Glenn, who directed five of the Bond movies. He was just like a... He had his own little Bond action set piece like running in. It's crazy. Oh my God, that's awesome. And then, yeah, the tab that we had open and we were like, you know, I was like.

Matt, get the microphones. We got to record this. We weren't even together today. We were just talking by text, and then we slid down bat poles to get here to cover this. Yeah, I lifted up the head of a bust. A bust statue. I'm still thinking about that for over there. That would be so cool, dude. I'm thinking about it. It depends on what's behind the door. Would you use a bust and a head tilt? A Shakespeare bust. They make them.

They do. They make them as collectors for Batman fans, and there's a company that will actually install a Switch. But they seem to be backordered, or I'm not sure, so I may just try to make it on my own. I don't know. I might buy the bust and then... To bust or not to bust. That is the... But I'm realizing I'm not going to have... I just realized I won't have enough depth in this bookcase for the head to fold back. Oh, can you do a little head?

Little shrunken Shakespeare head? Yeah. Novelty shrunken Shakespeare head. We'll see. But you were saying, oh, when you take a nap, you wake up a little melancholy. I was like, oh, so do I. And then we were talking about... okay here's the funny thing guys that we were laughing about what if when you took naps during the day

There was like a daytime talk show version of Freddy. And I don't even know if he would try to kill you. Would he just? Yeah, maybe because it's a nap, he's just going to try to like hurt you a little. or hurt your feelings hurt your feelings feelings it would be a feelings thing yeah it would be like um uh oh put on a little weight huh

Oh, extra piece of chocolate cake last night, huh? Yeah, maybe a little love some Springer, too. Kind of like there's fights and stuff that go on. Oh, yeah, that's what he does. He brings in your ex. Yes. And she's got a boyfriend. Yes. And someone throws a chair. Right, right, right. Yeah. And in this one, there's no Steve, the bodyguard. There's nobody to protect you. Yeah. And I said, it'd be funny if Freddie's kind of wearing like a...

Easter pastel sort of sweater for his daytime talk show and guys the detail that Matt shared that I said hey let's start recording this You said he had Donahue glasses. Donahue glasses, but maybe also Sally, Jesse, Raphael, so they change color a lot. Yes. Yeah. It seems like there was a... Special subset of the daytime talk show host who wore glasses. There's the ones who wore glasses. Sally Jesse.

Donahue. The ones who didn't. Springer did. Oprah. Jenny Jones. Springer wore glasses. Montel Williams didn't. No glasses. Ricky Lake. No glasses. How far are we going back? Mike Douglas. Mike dug glasses. So I think he was required to wear glasses that were of the cartoon Doug. All right. Okay. I still know what you did last summer. We'll talk about it. I still know. That should be the tone of how it's said. I still know what you did last summer. Come on. I haven't forgot. Okay, so...

Let's just, I want to jump ahead to the end a little bit here. Memento style. Yes. You got this new kind of heartthrob. What's his name? Will is the character's name. Played by the guy who played Lieutenant Spears in Band of Brothers, who's... So badass in Band of Brothers. He's in Band of Brothers? Yes. Do you remember Band of Brothers? I've never seen it. Oh, God, it's good. But he's a badass Band of Brothers. He's maybe the most badass.

Of all of them. That's crazy to me. In fact, he has a legend built around him. In real life, there is a legend built around him about whether he did this thing or not. Whoa, tell me. And it was myth. What's the thing? Well, it's did he... It was like a notorious legend about did he gun down some German prisoners in cold blood. But the show kind of treats it like... that's a myth that he doesn't mind being perpetual perpetuated so he get kind of people

respect and fear him. Like in real life, he just spanked them. Well, he went into their naps and he insulted them. But there's a scene in an episode of Band of Brothers where they're trying to siege this little village and he just... goes in by himself you see him go into this little village and you just hear all this gunfire and then he just comes out another way and he's like

completes the mission by himself it's insane and it was real oh the guy's just insanely badass yeah wow and this guy he's good in this movie but he's really good in band of brothers because he's so almost like

like so emotionally detached that he doesn't know fear. That's awesome. Yeah, he's great. Yeah, he's not... really a badass in this he's like a gentle guy who has a crush on her and then at the end even when he shows up uh and kind of reveals himself as the killer the way he like reveals it where he's like he's like It's not my blood, Julie. Like, his voice isn't, like, killer type voice. I felt like he was... And he looks, his looks is so... Like...

It raises an existential question, Matt. Does he look... Does he have this part because he had the look of a late 90s actor? Or is he just an actor who is styled... Because he looks like James Marsden. I know. Who is the guy who is the Scream 3 killer? Timothy Olyphant? No, that's two, right? Yeah. Scott Foley. Yes. He has a Scott Foley James Marsden quality that I'm like, this...

Is it what a 70s handsome guy? No, you're right. Is that what an 80s, this is a particular era, and was he just born with it? I think he could maybe be 80s. I think it's a little of both, but I think it's mostly styling because in Band of Brothers, for one thing, he's leaner and he's wearing like paratrooper fatigues, which are really cool looking. And he looks so cool. That's awesome. And he doesn't look like this.

But the thing I'm confused about, you know you've got Freddie Prinze and you know you've got this guy. So right away, and I didn't remember how this movie unfolded, I was like, oh, this guy's bad. because there'd be no reason for him to... This isn't a love triangle movie. Right. It surprised me. Did it? Okay, good. His purpose was definitely... a question that was like floating around in my mind. Like, what is this character actually...

is he supposed to be, it doesn't seem like he's pumping up the triangle. You're right. Because Prince jr. Isn't around enough to even like, yeah. So I was like, this is weird. What is this? And then I'm like,

Well, I can't imagine she gets with him. No. So all these questions were, I guess, leading. Because she doesn't really like him. Yes. It'd be one thing if she kind of liked him a lot. But then when he gets hit by the guy at the boat, you know, right away. Because I'm just like, that's a red herring. That guy's not bad. This guy's bad. But they're saying he's DJ Wett's son. He's the son that was killed in the car accident? They should have clarified that because I think it's probably just his...

That guy, the son's brother. Another son. Another son. Because wasn't that... I mean, maybe there's some... last summer heads out there who will be like, no, it's very clearly stated that he is the guy that they hit with the car. They're not right about it being very clearly stated. No, yeah, because it is confusing. I assumed it was his other son, but...

You're right. It could very well be the guy that they hit and he survived it. And now him and his daddy, even if it was his other son, they should have said like, I'm doing this with my dad because of my brother, or I'm that guy and I survived this way. It was very strange. It's only...

It's less than a year later this movie comes out, so it's not like people will have forgotten necessarily. And if he is the brother that got... Well, either way, it makes you wonder why he wasn't there the summer before when the first... Good point. Like...

His vengeance would still want to be his at that time. Also, why do they need to get these people to an island to kill them when it never stopped them before to just do it around home? Seems like a lot more work. There is a huge... huge plot hole in the radio station, like using the radio station giveaway, that he would have had no control over whether Freddie Prinze Jr.

decides to go or not. And that Prince Jr. deciding not to go opens up the space for Will to come. So if he was planning this, it was like... Very fortunate for him that Prince Jr. declined to come so that there would be a spot open that presumably when you see the movie, it seems like Mekhi Pfeiffer and Brandy asked him. Like he didn't even push for it. They were like, Oh, we asked him to come. So it's like, wow, man.

you took a leap of faith that this radio giveaway, Prince Junior would say no, that these people would ask him to come along. It gets into Dark Knight, Joker, plot, and Silva Skyfall plot territory of a lot of things had to go your way. A lot of dominoes. And he was already in with that group. He could have killed her the moment they walked out of the classroom together in the first five minutes of the movie. It's also like a logic thing or whatever, which is like...

why are you killing the staff at the resort, dude? Like these people had nothing to do with the, I mean, if it's like the sweetness, the deliciousness of killing. julie jennifer love hewitt after you've terrified her that she's now on this resort alone and she's seen people knocked one off by one and those killers and part of it is like seeing her be more terrified, knowing that she's going to die. But that...

It doesn't fit the revenge where they just hit the person with the car. It's not like they tortured them by stalking them and killing other people around it. So it's like, if you want a one-to-one revenge, it's just like... They should just be driving around in a car waiting for Jennifer Love Hewitt to cross the street and then run over her. And then to clear up another little thing of confusion in this movie is last week, last time, I looked it up in Jack Black.

We said wasn't in it. He obviously very much is, but he's uncredited. He's uncredited. And that's why he didn't show up on what I was looking at. You were correct in what... you were seeing. And Brantley Palmer had a really funny note, which was that Prince Jr. was never on set when Jack Black was shooting. And so at the premiere, and he's watching the movie, he's like...

I don't think it was at the premiere. He never saw the movie. He only recently on his podcast rewatched it. And only then realized Jack Black was in the movie. He never knew. Yeah, so... Like us, he was also questioning who was in this movie. And do you think he's uncredited because he's enough of a name that he just wants it to be a cameo? Or is it more of an Alan Smithy thing? Like he doesn't want to be... I think it's an Alan Smithy thing because he's also wearing like...

like a literal disguise to be like, I'm not in this movie. And yeah, maybe he wasn't happy with his performance or I don't know. Um,

It seemed to be like, what was it shot in Puerto Vallarta? Somewhere in Mexico, yeah. So I saw it as like, hey, it's a well-paying job. I get to go to this... uh resort like in kind of a paradise to shoot it's in my lane i can play like the funny like stoner dude it is funny that it is like um uh Well, I'm known in my friend group as like, Paul, you're a big Jack Black fan.

I am too. Like, like people like the way you talk about him, you really are a big fan. And I've thought about, I'm like, Oh, I am. I couldn't, who couldn't be. He's super funny and very nice. Yeah. Who couldn't be? He's kind of like a perfect comic actor. And we recently went to see... a revival theater was showing School of Rock and we went to it. And when I was watching it, I was like, it makes sense that Jack Black subsequently has been in children's movies and family movies because...

The twinkle in his eyes and the tone of his voice in talking to children is so sweet. Without being... yes sentimental or cloying yeah it's just like it's everything you like about like an uncle or your dad or mom's like friend who's like fun to be around and When I was watching it, I was like, oh, nobody from that generation of actors can do that. I love Will Ferrell. He's so funny. But you can't imagine Will Ferrell having this kind of gentle sweetness. It is a really...

beguiling. It's something to do with the fact that he's got those kind of almost sinister eyebrows and a comedic persona that is a little cold, but kids... He can make kids aware that that's a persona. And so there's a feeling of like this kind of slightly scary but all funny and lovable man.

It's like a thrill to be around. You know who you're describing? It's like Burt Larr is like the cowardly lion. I've seen the Minecraft movie now about five times. Wow. Mary really, my daughter really loves it. And so we've watched it, but we watched it twice in the theater. and how it's on streaming, so we've been watching it again. And when I was watching it, I was like, oh, he's doing a Burt Laram performance. Like, kids just love a guy like that. He's not...

You're right. It's true. He's not being like Mr. Rogers. There's like a devilishness to it that like... Does it make it seem corny? Especially the way his career started. High Fidelity, The Jackal, this. He's not playing likable people. Right, right, right, right. And then it does start to turn around the school of rock phase. Yeah. God damn, he's good. We're really, as a...

As people on this world, we're really lucky to have Jack Black on it. That's true. It's a gift we get. Yes. And he's really good in this. It's like a fully formed Jack Black character. Yeah. And he's got some funny stuff. Yes, he does. I mean, how can I not like a guy when he's by himself, all alone, and about to smoke? He grabs the bong and says, come to Papa. That is such a movie, stoner movie. I can't imagine like a stoner being sitting by himself, grabbing a bong and going, come to Papa.

Apparently the director kind of begged... certain people to be in this movie for the end and said like we'll shoot you out really quickly it'll be fun you can improvise so i would assume that's jack black jeffrey combs john hawks John Hawks, Red West even. Bill Cobbs. Bill Cobbs, Red West. Yeah, they're all really great actors. And to speak on this director... I love this movie. Around this time, the way movies were paying tribute to the slashers of yore.

was kind of like through satire. Scream is like, hey, we're not dumping on this, but we're having a good laugh at the tropes. I really like the... tone and stylization of this movie because it's somebody who's just like, well, no, the best way to pay tribute to a slasher is just to do slasher stuff. It's earnestly do it. And I have to agree, we haven't even talked about whether we liked this movie or not. We've been talking about some of its weaknesses. And I think...

The first half of it isn't super strong. But when it kicks in with the slasher stuff at the end, the slasher sequence is really good. I know. I saw that it was an 8% on Rotten Tomatoes. And I was like, that's not fair. That's not fair. That's not true. This is like a really... It's what you said, sincere. It's like a sincerely made slasher with actual scale. Yeah. And then also, so I love a director who's like...

It also seems like he's got something to prove. Like Judge Dredd. He did Judge Dredd. It wasn't a hit. And I think a director usually makes their best movie when the last one didn't hit. So they're like, God, I got to... To prove to people that I'm the shit. And so this is just like a well-crafted, like well-made, like clearly a guy who, you know, probably like Jaws and like...

Hitchcock movies they're like well made suspense sequences and then so checks off that box and then checks off the other box of he loves actors yeah so all the like

Characters are not just like... That Jeffrey Combs part, the guy who runs the front desk, that could easily have just been some actor who's like... bland and just does the job but like to make sure like hey I'm gonna cast an interesting actor make the character like that's somebody who like loves movies it makes us love the movie too I can't tell

If I like this one or the first one better, because this has better actors in it, even the main four. I like Sarah Michelle Gellar. We talked about Ryan Felipe last time. Mackay Pfeiffer is a better version of that because... you're not supposed to like him, but you don't dislike the actor. Like there was something about Ryan Felipe that I just, I don't know. No, I think still know is like a much more charming.

It's just more fun because it's also gorier. It's a better slasher movie by far. There's some good kills. The kills are really good. Like actual makeup gore effects in a late... 90s slasher movie, which is hard to get. Like John Hawks, that first kill of John Hawks is really...

good. And I don't think I expected it to be just that quick out of the gate. I know his death. I like, I thought he'd come up with them and toy with them or something. That felt like a real slasher scene and know what you did last summer, you know,

as we found in the notes, the director was sort of like, I don't really like slashers. I don't like blood and guts. So I was trying to like pull that. If there's anything like that in the movie, it's because he was forced to put it in. Seems like he's like above. Yeah. The material. And this person was just like, uh, not, uh, nobody involved would seem to be really above it. Um, the bridge of like, this does seem like, you know, it's interesting. It's like.

Scream 1 is 96. Scream 2 is 97. And then there's like a big gap of like 98 and 99. before Scream 3 comes out in 2000. And you can kind of feel like a... It skips a beat between Scream 2 and 3. But like... Halloween H2O that came out in 1998. And I still know what you did last summer that came out in 1998. When did the faculty come out? Faculty came out in 98 as well. That feels like those are like good.

bridge movies where like they're not they don't have that like snarky tone as much it's more like delivering on the goods um and then they're almost like reminders between screen movies of what Scream is talking about. That's true. You got to go back to the text and this generation forgets. Here's what a slasher movie. Yes. Yeah. And I remember I saw this in the theater on opening night in Sioux City, Iowa. Wow.

and I didn't, I hadn't seen any of the trailers. I think partly because the movie was so rushed. I mean, it came out less than a year after the first one. So there wasn't a lot of like buildup of like, who knows if they even had footage to cut like a. Because I remember sitting in the theater and going like, oh, I'm watching a slasher sequel. Yeah.

This is what I've been dreaming for. I saw Scream 2 in the theater, but watching all the Friday the 13th movies on video, I was like, oh, I never got the experience of on opening weekend going to one of these movies. And I remember sitting and being like... It didn't occur to me until like in the movie when they're like walking around in the resort and it's raining. I was like...

dude, open your eyes, man. It's just a sequel to a slash. This rules. Pinch yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I like it for that reason, too. It was like nostalgia of getting to see a... A slasher with friends on a Friday night. Well, not to rain on your parade, but I gotta pee. Hey, I'm gonna rain into a toilet with my penis. We'll be back. BetterHelp Online Therapy bought this 30-second ad to remind you right now, wherever you are, to unclench your jaw, relax your shoulders.

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like there's the sting from the music, but then behind it is just... Oh, cool. And I know that's like often... Something similar is used even in Halloween and stuff, but this just felt like note for note. That's awesome. I didn't notice that. That's cool. I did notice, I'm like, man, this movie that has like... A big nightclub set. Club jump scare. Club jump scare. DJ club jump scare. Playing at DJ Wet. I'm spinning at club jump scare.

Filled with a crowd of extras. That's probably like 100 people or something. I'm like... Movies in 2025 that are like biopics. Like prestige Oscar movies. don't have the scale anymore. Yeah. Of like extras and shot on film and in a dark club. That's huge. Yeah, even No Time to Die shot in a Jamaican nightclub and it wasn't as big or as happening as that. The loss of extras has been a real drop in movie land scale that I love. I agree. I see scenes now where it'll be like...

the arcade open and it's really popular. And then it's just like half a dozen people. Do you think Nolan's Odyssey movie will be like a throwback to the... Sword and Sandal epics of tons of extras and stuff? I think so. That'd be pretty cool. Or knowing him, the only reason it wouldn't be is because he'd be afraid people would leak too much information from set or something. Right, right.

somebody has like a little spy cam and they're like, yeah. Yeah. Um, um, DW Griffith never had to worry about his extras, like leaking stuff to Harry Knowles. Maybe they did. Maybe there was a Harry Knowles of 1920s. No, he had all his extras shot as soon as they wrapped. There was a bunch of injuries, right? Like when he shot Intolerance, they all went to the hospital. Yeah, I did like the nightclub scene, though. It's cool.

Should we talk... Oh, so the Columbia logo, same logo as the last movie. Yeah. But the Colombian-ness of it all reminded me of Brantley's notes where around 2000 when... Hollywood started getting heat post-Columbine about like, how much are you making violent movies for kids who couldn't see an R-rated movie? And then... They did some research and they found out that Columbia Pictures had a focus group of 10-year-olds. Nine and 10-year-olds. Nine, nine, and 10-year-olds to ask them...

what they would like to see in an I Know You Did Last Summer sequel. That is crazy. And in the memo, it says... our research has told us that a lot of nine to 10 year olds have watched, I know what you did last summer. So, and I'm like, you know, on a scale, like as far as horror movies to watch, I know what you did last summer is pretty tame. It's not like they were like, you know.

We want to make a sequel to Caligula. Let's ask some nine to ten-year-olds what they want from it. We're going to do Deep Throat 2. Let's get a two-year-old in here. Glad you asked. I guess a little more throat. A little less scrote, a little more throat. There was a... They gave out a... like free tote bags at the grocery store I worked at and a friend came in and scratched off.

some of the letters and made it scrote bag from tote bag. Yeah. They had to add some letters. Yeah. Okay. You should have disclosed that. You're right. There's an elimination and addition of some letters. And then, oh my God, we talked about the lengthy Mandalay logo. That fucking logo needs an intermission. It's so long.

I watched this one on Plex. God bless you, Stephen Glaner. And I don't feel like it had, I didn't think I saw any Logo Loco this time. That's good. Yeah. So was the movie 20 minutes shorter? You mentioned the music in the nightclub.

I like the music in this a lot. And they said they didn't reuse any of the original music. And it's all kind of like voices and weird instrumentations. Yeah, detuned voices and stuff. It's pretty interesting. Also, whatever this kind of like... snapshot of the music at this time like when they arrive on the island and it's kind of playing that like this is like so cozy the like whatever that like late 90s like okay

It's going to sound like the laid-back soul or jazz that you've heard before, but we're going to put a drum loop under it. I know. That's very nice. Yeah. Whatever that... what was it stuck outside a broken phone booth with change in my hand once again what was that song what was that song yeah how did that go because that had a sample in it right and then uh That also had, like, that was the same era as the, like, remember it had the little, like, imperial march.

Oh, dude. White Town? Is that what it was called? I got to hear that stuck outside a phone booth. Is that what it was? Yeah. There was like a Saturday in 1996 or 97. where I heard that song playing on the radio, MTV, at an intercom like six times in one day. It was like people were having mania.

I mean, it was the closest I came to Beatlemania was the time I heard six times in one day the standing outside a phone booth with... Standing outside a phone booth. Is that what it is? I don't know. Well, it must be because stuck doesn't come up. Okay. Phone booth? Outside a broken phone. Primitive radio gods. Primitive radio gods. I forgot all about this song. This is so big on like AAA radio. Yep. Same start as Pinch Me by the Bare Naked Ladies. Yes. Oh, my God. This was everywhere.

But whatever this version of adult contemporary just didn't have this feel up until this point. It was like a new sound we were looking for. Yeah, because this was also around the time Soul Coughing came around. Yep. Rockabye. Yep. That all have these beats. And David Gray. This is all Winamp music for me. What's Winamp?

when amp was like an mp3 player oh yeah that's that like windows amp yep and we had a like in our keyboarding class in high school we had a wind amp on it and we'd get to play it and it had like the most like 1998, like collection of like, uh, the, um, Who's the Are You Gonna Go My Way singer? Lenny Kravitz. Yeah. He had that song that was like Fly or something. But like Rockabye, all those songs were like... Um, Everlast, um, uh, that's what you really know.

Remember that song? Yeah. Whatever this style is. This is also like Moby and Fatboy Slim kind of adjacent to this too. Is this the only hook? There's no real hook to this song. Is this post like Beck? Yeah, I think so. Post-Chemical Brothers kind of stuff. Yeah, exactly. Dust Brothers. Wow. Man, that's... Blaster of the Past. I know. My computer's making a weird noise. Do you hear that ticking? Yeah.

Has someone planted a bomb? Yeah. Pull the red wire. No, the blue. No, the green. Hey, the live screamers like this song. What is that? In terms of samples, too. Yeah, what is that sound? Oh, it's that disc. Hold on. I lost all my files. Are you serious? My main thing, and it's at data recovery right now. I've been able to slowly bring off some really important ones, but like 10 terabytes of everything. Oh no, what happened? How did that...

just one of my hard drives failed my main hard drive and i hadn't backed it up in a while because i've been re placing everything so hold on one sec sure this is riveting podcasting i'm sorry that happened uh you know we were talking about samples i'll just bring up in the credits of the movie

they play some of the dialogue from the previous movie, like in the background, I don't know if you heard it, but it'll be like, the credits are coming up and then you hear off screen Jennifer Love Hewitt going like, what are you waiting for? That's a cool way to do a previously on. If you're going to do a sequel, it's just over the credits, you just hear, um, you know, dialogue from the first movie. Can you imagine like if there was like,

a swordfish too. Like in the credits at the beginning, you hear like, give me back my swordfish already. Like, oh, good. We got our tickets to Swordfish 2. This is so exciting. So is that clicking as like a result of it trying to work through something? Oh, no. I'm sorry, buddy. We've got a job to do, by God. Yes, yes. I do really, really like this movie. I do have a complaint, Matt. What's that? I feel like this is kind of a thing that sequels to slashers get in in general.

that they don't do in the original, maybe because the characters aren't aware that there's a killer afoot, or they haven't had that experience, and the audience certainly hasn't. But a lot of times the sequels will have a lot of... fake outs yeah like they're not the real thing so like the fact that this movie started with like It wasn't until John Hawks that there was actual carnage. And then you don't have any for a while either with the maid. Yeah, this starts with like a bad dream.

And the dream is cool, like going to confession and stuff. That was all stylistically. I was like, oh, this is a cool way to open them. But it starts with a dream, and then there's a couple fake-outs where you think she's in peril, but it's not. It's just like, it's not scary. No. And when you're watching it, an audience can unconsciously understand that it's not going to be the real.

thing yeah so it doesn't even really feel perilous in the moment no it's just a lot of wasted time that's why the first part of this movie doesn't really with the occasional you know like the john hawk's death and this yeah i think it's also like a lot of fluff Yeah, and a lot of times those fake-outs will be framed in a sequel as like, oh, it's the person having trauma.

And maybe that's also what kind of like rubs me the wrong way. It's like, well, you're just trying to cram in some extra scares before the killing starts happening. So kind of like... taking a character an audience likes and putting them through like a psychological ringer just so you can get some extra like bonus scares also feels a little they always ring hollow to me whenever it's revealed that it's fake because then also when you're watching real ones you're like ah it's this

gonna be fake too yeah exactly i also just don't like the character who's like dealing with trauma in a horror movie it just never feels real

And it kind of makes the main character like a little like slowed down or something. It's rare. I liked the H2O version because they didn't... deal on her or dwell on her trauma she was just an alcoholic and struggling you know yeah and it's 20 years out so like it feels appropriate when you come back to a movie 20 years later that the person but like when it's just like it didn't feel like a new flavor for Julie here because she was already kind of like

at the beginning of the first one, traumaed out after they hit the guy in the car. So it's like, oh. Yeah, she's... There's not much going on with her character. There's just... Unfortunately, she's a bit of a... just decipher you know yeah because they try to at the end have her do one of those like i'm done running

now I'm going to, it's time to take this guy out. Except then she's just like, well, I'm going to repeat this move from the first one where you yell into the void. Yes. And it doesn't like... That's like the Superman smile. Yes. You can't have that every time. And it doesn't feel like it came from a real place of her being like, okay, I'm fed up with this. Time to take this. Those could be awesome. Like Halloween H2O, there's a part where Laurie's like, I'm done running.

I could run away, but I'm going to stay here to fight this guy. Just the response to them not knowing that was going to be a thing, and then it became a big hit. thing yeah so they're just replaying it after the fact right when she does it with the gravestone pandering yeah yeah when she does it she doesn't even say what are you waiting for she says something like come and get me or do you hear me or yeah but yeah um

I wish I... I wish it wasn't Jennifer Love Hewitt. Sarah Michelle Keller, when she looks at the photo...

Her character didn't die at the end of I Know What You Did Last Summer. Sarah Michelle Gellar? Oh, she did. She did. That's why I read they were really trying to find a way to bring her back to the new one that's coming up, but they ultimately I don't think did unless it says... surprise or something yeah um yeah i wish there would have been a way hey it would have been cool seeing her come back for for more here well we get Jennifer Esposito in this film as well.

Is she the bartender? Yeah, and she's serving them dark and stormies, which I once got real shipwrecked on four dark and stormies myself. Shipwrecked? Is that like a way to say ship-faced? That's what I'm saying. That's awesome. Where did you have them? apartment it was me Amanda and Jeff Davis and his girlfriend at the time and we were just we were making Dark and Stormies and playing what were we playing a game of some kind I don't remember what the game was

I had dark and stormies. I think the only time I had them was when I was at Hawaii. I like dark and stormies. Yeah. This is the first time I've heard Tabasco in them, though. Yeah, is that right? It sounds kind of interesting because it's dark rum and ginger beer, essentially. I think lime. But Tabasco, that sounds interesting. Yeah. Yeah.

Are there other cocktails that use Tabasco? Oh, I'm sure. Does a Bloody Mary? Yeah, I was going to say there's a Bloody Mary. I'm not really a Bloody Mary guy. Yeah, it's funny how a Bloody Mary is like the breakfast booze of choice. It's mimosa and Bloody Mary, and that's all you get. Maybe a screwdriver. Yeah. Yeah. I love the, like, international waters.

breaking law spirit of an airport in the morning when you go to like a bar and people are like oh yeah getting like shit faced at 9 a.m in the morning because they're gonna fight they're always like hey it's cool dude yeah The airport, there's been no location where rules are so strict and so not strict. I know, because people are in different time zones as well. Yeah. Yeah. But that like, it's like...

This is a place where you have to take off your shoes for the last 20 plus years because you might be hiding a bomb on it. But you can also... go and get a drink at 10 a.m. I know. And even on the plane, you're served any amount of booze. Yeah. Yeah. The, um, and, and no, um, no tipping for flight attendants. I remember to be like, is that, and I guess it's an insult. Really?

Or it's not appropriate. Even now, because they make such little money on pilots too. Maybe now it's not an insult. Maybe people are like, no, no, no. It is weird you don't tip. Yeah. But I think maybe what's an insult is like it's the suggestion of like you're the cocktail waitress of the sky. Yeah. And it's like, no, no, I'm actually here to make sure you don't die when the plane starts going down. I get you in a good, you know. But who knows? Yeah. They should have more like party planes.

I agree. I mean, those pictures of like 70s jumbo jet lounges with spiral staircases and bars and lounge seats. Yeah. It's incredible. Yeah. I want to go on one of those so bad. When I was a kid and people who grew up in the 40s and 50s and beyond seen movies, and they're like, the great movie palaces got... pushed aside for multiplexes. Now you can go to a building and they got 25 screens. It's not like the movie palaces of yours. As a kid, I was always kind of like, what's the problem?

A place that has 25, this, if you love movies, this should be like the ultimate place to go. Yeah. You open a door and a new movie is there. You walk down five feet. There's another, it's a. It's a fun house. It's awesome. Yeah. But lately I've been able to appreciate like... Oh, the majesty of going to a huge movie palace. I know, with a balcony. I could see it then being disappointing when you walk into a closet. Yeah. Yeah, but c'est la vie. Speaking of closets, when that...

Whoever that porter is or the naval guy, the boat guy that we don't know who he is until he shows up just to get killed. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. When he appears in the closet. Yes. The highest closet that ever lived that could hide a body enough to drop it down in just a hotel suite. Yeah. Closets aren't known for their high ceilings. But that's a...

a hallucination as well, but has she ever met this guy? No. So why is she hallucinating about somebody? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's another little mess up there. Or maybe it's one of those quick body cleanups and she did see him. Maybe. He did do one of those last meetings. That's right. Yeah. When you were talking about, oh, the logistics of a tall, there's some logistical... spatial chicanery going on with the Makai Pfeiffer's death, which is like...

Great. I mean, I love that scene because he's like, look, I'm tired and I'm horny and I just want something to eat. And then like... Samuel L. Jackson's arm in Jurassic Park style. This thing just drops behind him. But I'm like... I think the killer was hiding in the vent of the oven. It's like so weird. A lot of upper spatial. And the killer's awesome. Like the gore effect of like the hook coming out through the neck and stuff is really cool. But like.

spatially it's a little questionable before that what's really funny is the tableau that they when they wake up in bed and will's just kind of got his hand on makai pfeiffer he's just kind of like Because Jennifer Love Hewitt won't cuddle with him or something, but he's just sweet. Yeah, where's your other hand? Between two pillows. Those aren't pillows? What did you think that was when he says those aren't pillows? What, instead of pillows?

His thighs, I think? Their thighs. Yeah, it's got to be. Not butt cheeks. Are they front to front or back spooning? They're spooning. I think he's just between his upper back. That is really funny. Yeah. I love the wholesome way that she bottoms out at the beginning of the movie when they're showing like... She's a mess at school. She eats chips, drinks bottled iced tea, and takes a midday nap.

At-risk youth there. Somebody save her. Get her to rehab immediately. She's taking midday naps. Another kind of like... Oh, what's the rules here of her seeing somebody? Or what's a real threat versus fake? It's a spooky scene when she's walking through. her house before they go to the resort and it's empty. Yeah. And then you see a shadow like run behind her real fast. And then it turns out it's Brandy coming into like.

she wanted to borrow a jacket. But when you think back to it then, when you replay it in your mind, it's like, why was Brandy's shadow running like that? And why... and why is she being like so you would just come and you'd open the door and you'd be like hey I don't I know she says like I thought you weren't here but you would still just kind of like

You'd walk in like it's your house. This is how you behave when I'm not home? That's worse. I don't mind you buying a sweater, but scurrying around? That's weird. Will is, yeah, a funny character. I mean, the Freddie Prinze Jr. stuff is confusing because if he's not going to be at the resort, and I know the original idea for the script was maybe that he was going to be...

One of the killers. Yeah. And then you go, like, okay, if somebody's not around like that, it's usually, it's like a red herring. Like, they do some stuff that kind of makes you think, like, maybe Rey has, like, lost it. But, like... The, when they're, his whole story is like really weird because it's like him rushing to get to her, like getting a boat.

and hawking his ring to get a gun to get there and stuff, it's not necessarily, like, suspenseful, because you're just like, okay, I'm waiting for him to get to the thing, but, like... Yeah. He's neither a red herring, but he's neither... Not part of the movie? Yeah. Why doesn't the gun work and then does... Why keep him away from the... I mean, I guess it's to have Will be the person she's semi-close to who you reveal is a killer, which is a little like a warmed-over scream thing. Yeah.

the oh the guy but it's not even really that because she doesn't get that interested in him so it's not that heartbreaking for her right that all the kind of like prince will julie triangle stuff is like No, it's only there for an end reason and they didn't do enough to... either disguise it or make it interesting yeah and when they fight in the rain there's some moments that i'm just like this is a good slasher but like even with the john hawks kill when he gets killed

It's like an awesome slasher moment. But then the truck starts to chase after Freddie Prinze Jr. He's running through a road and rolling down a hill. And that tendency to make any... In the late 90s, everything like Die Hard or whatever is just like, it's the same with like, oh, the killer and the boyfriend are now going to face off. But then they just have this like very kind of like.

action movie like fist fight in the rain. Will like pounces him to the ground and then they just stop and he just gets up. Yes. And then she pulls out a gun to shoot. uh, DJ wet. And she, Michael Myers is him. I thought for sure he was going to disappear from the grave because they just, he's kind of shot just like Michael Myers, you know, that, um, And the director, Danny Cannon, I think is he? Diane Cannon. Diane Cannon. She, he...

said that there's different little Easter egg references or whatever to other horror movies. I believe it. Well, that's right. Psycho and Michael Myers. Yeah, and I noticed the Psycho one with... when they discover the corpses, somebody hits a light and the light is like the overhead light is swinging back and forth over there. And then I noticed, uh, Brantley pointed out how Jack Black is killed with the shears from the Bernie. And I thought discovering the woman...

The housekeeper in the dryer, that's My Bloody Valentine. Oh, right. And I think Jennifer Esposito's kill is kind of Friday the 13th where she's impaled through another body. Yep, yep. But I really liked this one because...

I didn't put it together until you started saying that now, but I had written down that I really liked her kill because there is this thing of her being trapped and it's different in Friday the 13th. They don't know what's going to happen. Well, I guess the girl sees it from underneath. But it's not quite the same where she's trapped and can't get away, and you can just see the way this is going to go. Yeah, that's in part two, the scene that got cut down.

The original scene of that that now is edited around. But I saw Greg Nicotero in an interview. He saw the original kill before it got cut down. And he said it was really scary because... the girl who's underneath the guy does see Jason coming and the weight of the guy on her. She can't like push him off to get away, which does make it scarier than when you get like, yeah.

through both of them. I just like that the weapon's already there, though. Yeah, yes, yes, you're right, yeah. It's a pretty good setup. Yeah. The setup, too, of just like... a resort that's empty during a storm is like a really, I mean, it gets kind of wasted on a, I still know what you did last summer sequel. I know. Even when they kill. they kill the two guys. And then the next shot is it's morning.

I kind of was like, well, you had the rest of the night in the resort to yourself. Yeah, what's wrong with that? It also feels like sort of like a Bahamian version of The Shining. Yes. Instead of doing Dr. Sleep, I would have liked a Shining sequel that's like... they have to run a tropical resort on an island. Oh, that's a great idea. That's really funny. On the off-season. Yeah, it's winter.

fiji yeah yeah winter uh for the overlook and then uh monsoon season hurricane season for uh this resort um the um Radio contesting is like a little... The logic of that is pretty crazy. Why would you ask something that is not universally known? Do you know the capital of Brazil? No, but I know it's not Rio. I know, but why not ask something that you know someone can answer if you want them to go? You're so right. They should have just made the question of like...

What do humans breathe? Yeah, or something along those lines. Like, yeah, I don't know. What's the capital of another state? The state they're in in that moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I know the, like... Right, you would want the person to answer. So this is going over actual radio waves? I don't think so. So what's the guy doing? He's doing one of those...

I don't think this is on the radio because he's faking the whole thing. So he's doing the thing where he's picking up on a radio signal because it's coming out of a radio speaker when they're listening to it. It is? Yeah. I thought that's just the phone speaker. No, I think they hear like... And then they pick up and they're like... Oh, really? So he engineered all that?

You're right. Maybe they just do pick up the phone and the guy's saying, hey, you're listening. But he was taking a risk that they wouldn't turn on. No, because then they go, who are you listening to? It's just like, nine, seven point. But I guess that could be because at the beginning of the call, he said, you're on this station? I'm just realizing, so this guy, Will, and his dad then had to not only pay for all their way to the island, but...

But organize all of the travel. Yes. You're so right. To what end? It's insane. They're also moonlighting as like a tourist. Travel agents. They should have just, as a script, had Will be a really engaging character that she's kind of falling for, and she and Rey have drifted apart. Yeah. It's a year later.

And he organizes this trip for the four of them to go there. It would be that simple. Yeah, and you would buy it because you'd be like, oh, it's sequel time. She's got a new boyfriend. I buy that like...

You know what would make that good, Matt, is that it would make you more believe that Prince Jr.'s got... something going up against him yeah like oh I am totally out of her life and he's like spiraling so they're yeah and then also gives you good romance scenes between if I had to guess it's like well one the script wasn't like

developed enough in a year's time to like figure out these kind of things but also like it feels a little bit of a choice to not make jennifer love hewitt's character like a hoe Like if she was like falling too much for Will, then an audience might be like, well, I don't like her. Why isn't she with like, yeah. But if there was a little reason why Freddie Prince Jr.'s character seemed unlikable. Yes.

And so she would be justified falling for this guy. But then not only do you find out this guy's bad, but that the reason he was unlikable was... not his fault or something then you have a nice double twist at the end you know totally that's good man and like yeah that the biggest uh like that you have to make in the movie, two of them happen in the same scene, which is like Freddie Prinze Jr. deciding that he's not going to take a free vacation.

but he will eventually change his mind and still go. By putting a boat captain under duress and at gunpoint. Yeah, and John Hawks... convincing him well John Hawk saying I'll go with you is already like a bizarre thing like what co-worker is like no you should have actually gone on that trip

but do it this way and I'll come with you is like so cockamy. But then that it's also like, it's a big... buy that he wouldn't have like when he changed his mind to go he just wouldn't call her up and be like you know what I changed my mind I will take that free ticket to a free resort feels like a first draft all of this yeah and then also that he would think it's a good idea to support

surprise her yeah like and that you would take that advice from like your co-worker yeah like your co-worker tells you you know what you should surprise her and prince jr's like automatically that's a great idea I think just going with her when she asked you and... having all that time to travel with her will be a better ramp up to the proposal than like, hey, this whole last day and a half, you thought I was this dick who turned down your free invite.

will you marry me? That's not how a human thinks. I've only got one more note, really. Is it John Hawks on the docks? Ah, it was crazy to see a young John Hawks. That guy's never seemed young. Yes, I know. Even then he doesn't seem young. I know, but he's, yes, yes, he's younger. And also I love their like... They're supposed to be these like South side dock boy. They couldn't look more gap. Like they are so. It's just like the killer last movie. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe that's why they're wearing.

What's your note? Well, it's that when Freddie Prinze Jr.'s brushing his teeth at the end... He's doing toothbrush arm. Do you do this? Because I certainly do, and I don't understand what it is, but I have to put my mic down. I brush my teeth with my right hand. You watching this live, Screamers? Brush my teeth with my right hand, but I do this.

And my arm like... Oh, it's kind of like a T-Rex kind of curled. Just like... Yeah, what do I do with it? You're right. The other arm gets kind of held up. When it should just be like at rest. Arch my back a little and it's like you become like a velociraptor. Yeah. What is that? Does anybody else do that? I do it. I don't have my arm just kind of like down at my... No. Is it because you're like using a certain muscle that you're like taking from your left?

It's like a pulley system. This arm coming up kind of brings up this other arm. I liked it too, where he was like, there's so many moments of people saying things out loud to themselves. Yeah, yes. And he goes, I love this brush. I know. Those must have been new again or something, because electronic toothbrushes weren't new in the 90s, but they must have had a resurgence like they did again 10 years ago or something. Yeah, like, ooh, this is a newfangled...

And is the last twist, it has to be a fantasy, right? Because we're getting another one. But do you think they'll acknowledge that? Yeah. Well, my question, too, with that last shot when she's attacked, it had to have existed before, but in the... early 2000s, you saw it in every horror movie trailer. The like...

Oh yeah. Person up to the screen getting pulled away from the camera. I think the first time I saw it was like wreck record. Oh yeah. But this came out before. So I was like, did this movie, I doubt they created that thing, but. That is a really powerful image in a horror movie is the thing, the person up front and then getting pulled away. And when I saw it, I was like, oh, I don't know what's the antecedent or whatever for this.

Yeah, why do I feel like there's something in the Alien franchise that does that? Or Poltergeist? Maybe. Does somebody get pulled under a bed like that? But I feel like it's not the close-up of the face getting pulled away thing. But it's cool. I noticed a little when they were on the boat. uh, a little 80 yard. I'm the king of the world. I didn't notice that. They like, uh, uh, geez, maybe did Titanic was like, yeah.

popular when they shot it but then it became a phenomenon and like hey if you're on a boat you gotta do a I'm a king of the world reference I thought the open hospital window which was weird who was that the killer like when they go and the bed is empty and then they see the person escape, that had like Friday the 13th part five ending vibes. But like, I don't know what that was. I like that a message is written on the karaoke screen. Yeah.

The production level of these killers is good. You're right. They pay for a full price is right, fully paid, expenses paid trip. If you guys... Thought you wouldn't want to see this movie because it doesn't have Jack Black saying getting jiggy with it. You're wrong. You should watch the movie. This movie is also wholesome that these characters who are talking about sex the whole time, we're going to have sex, that when they do have the opportunity, they pretend.

They're like jumping on the bed going, I'm like, these are not the slashers of the eighties. People would be, feel ripped off if that was like the sex scene. Jeffrey Cove says to them, hey, look, we're just going to have to batten down and wait for the next couple days until the storm passes. Has the term batten down ever been used in a non-storm scenario?

Can things only be battened down during a storm? Well, isn't it a sailing term, a nautical term? Okay, so this is the answer that I... Batten down the hatches? Yeah. Can hatches only be battened down? What is battening down something? Is it just like securing it? I don't know. Yeah, I think it is. Because, you know, I batten my zipper every time I piss. Batten down. Batten. Batten? Batten down the hatches.

While I'm looking this up, I did like that there were three final girls for a little bit. I wrote that down too, man. I thought that was really cool that the guys get kind of dispensed and then you have three groovy final girls all like... And they're working together, too. I was like, I don't know if I've ever seen the final girl triptych. Secura ships hatch tarpaulins, especially when rough weather is expected.

or to prepare for a difficulty or crisis. So you can't batten down an airplane. To fasten the entrances to the lower part of a ship using wooden boards to prepare for a difficult situation. So a tarp is required. Or wooden boards. Or wooden boards. Wooden or metal battens. Oh, so the wood or the metal are the battens. They're like shutter boards or something. Ah, that's where the batten, okay. Yeah.

Because it's a good verb. Yeah, batten. Batten down. Batten down. The tanning bed, a little pre... Pre-final Destination 3 tanning suspense. I really felt her panic in that. It was pretty good. Yeah. That was good. She's a good scared actor. Yeah, she is. Yeah. And I liked Jack Black's scared acting, too. Yeah. That seems like that'd be a hard thing to pull off. The interesting note in Brantley's notes were that the movie looks dark.

And it's because they couldn't have the lights up brighter because it attracted bugs from the island. That's crazy. And it is dark. The movie is like dark looking. It is. And yeah, they couldn't have the lights. up and so their f-stop was ruined and so when a man and i went on our honeymoon to hawaii we when we got to our hotel room they had pre-opened the balcony and we went in and they were

hundreds and hundreds of bugs crawling on the ceiling. Oh my God. And we called the downstairs and they... We're so nice about it. So they put us in a suite. So we got a suite for our honeymoon all because of bugs. That is awesome. Maybe you want to travel with a jar of bugs. Yes, that's a little hack. Yeah. Like the McKenzie brothers would do that. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny. How do you know that they weren't just attracted to the light and it wasn't just bugs that are voyeurs?

I know. They're like, let's go to that honeymoon suite. Woo-hoo. Or what if these bugs on the set were just like big paparazzi movie bugs? Party of Five fans? Yeah. Hewitt's here. Grab some popcorn, boys. Oh, no, they don't like how we sit on the lights. I hope they don't lower their F-stops. Bill Cobbs, a great character actor, really wasted in this movie. And the voodoo stuff that he was collecting their things to protect them, really dumb. Really rough.

On many levels. Yes. And why then was he attacking Will with the oar? Because he figured it out. Yeah. What was the tell? I don't know. Yeah, that's weird. There really were some things left unsaid. Sloppy Joe. Yeah, Sloppy Joe. Like the kill of I'm tired and horny and haven't seen one psycho killer. Yeah.

Three final girls. That little image of the glass cracking under her foot and stuff is cool. Yeah, reading about how they did that was cool too, that it was real glass, but reinforced with like... polycarbonate plastic underneath plastic. That's a great trick. Definitely. And also the suspense of having to unlock a door. Because your friend's in like a confinement with the killer coming up behind him and you're like rushing to get the unlike... I got caught up in it, but it is like...

With both of those things, it's kind of like, it's cool how she's walking in the glass and it's cracking, but if somebody was at the top of their intelligence, they would distribute their body weight and they wouldn't put it all on the foot. You know, she's smart enough to not do that. Especially when there's frames.

Yes, yes, you put your body weight on the frames. And then with this, it's like, yes, it is suspenseful having to get the key to unlock your friend so they don't get killed. But the killer not just being like... oh, I'm going to rush. I'll run right to the person and stab her. Like, he moseys and he moseys until... I know. It's just the same when Will's carrying her away and she has a knife and she just nicks his arm instead of stabs him. Yep. Or when...

the DJ wet punches Jennifer Love Hewitt. Why does he punch her instead of hooker? Yes. I wish this movie, the script had been baked. It would have been pretty good. Because it could have been better if they had just given it another year. I wonder with this timeline, like trying to rush a movie out, it feels like it's partly, you know...

Anytime a movie does that, they just like, this movie's popular for now. We don't know how long this trend's going to last. If we wait too long, the time could have passed. It also seems like it's... But even this was a big flop, right? Wasn't it? Yeah.

It feels like it's also maybe trying to fill a... They saw that there was a gap for this quarter for one of these... teenage movies like they were like oh this is usually when a scream sequel comes out it's not but then it's funny because it doesn't there's so few Kevin Williamson-isms in this movie. Nobody really talks that kind of arch cleverness, so it's not even really filling the gap. It's just like a horror movie. This is happening right now with the Megan 2.0. They rushed that out.

Was that a year ago or two years ago when that came out? I don't know, but it flopped apparently. Yeah. And I didn't like... the first one i mean i got what it was trying to do but i didn't really find it funny or scary or anything i just found it kind of lame and then the trailer for the second one is awful because it just At one point, Megan just goes, hold on to your vaginas, which isn't really a figure of speech or pun.

It's not like there's a hold on to your cocks. Right, it's like hold on to your hats, right? Yeah. Yeah. Or your seat. Yeah. It's just... You're just saying vagina, putting that in the figure of speech to say it? Yeah, I liked the first Megan a lot and thought it was like a real fun time at the movies. I haven't seen the sequel, and I didn't watch a trailer for them. Oh, it goes full sci-fi. It's like Terminator 2. Megan is now good. And there's an evil, new, more humanistic doll.

Who are the human characters? It's still the same. It's Alison Williams and the daughter. Interesting. Yeah, but it seemed like people didn't really... It doesn't seem like it did well. F1 seems to be the big hit. Yeah. Have you seen F1? No. F none. I skipped right to F2. I still know what you F'd this summer. I still know what you F'd. This is... Yeah, I've said all these...

Oh, yeah. Will showing up with his kind of weak voice and saying, come on, Julie, what's your favorite radio station? It's not a scary line. No, it's not a great radio station. Not intimidating, not threatening. I also like how the hook kind of makes like a shing.

Even when it wouldn't make sense. He'd slice the air. That is in movies everywhere. It's the same thing with every bomb has to have a light and a beep. And none of this ever happens. If you swing a knife in the air, the most you'll get is a little... Yeah, and it makes it when it goes into somebody's flesh. It'll go... It always sounds like it's scraping metal. Yeah, it's not being unsheathed. No. We don't have a schwing situation here. No, no schwing.

Isn't that funny that schwing is just an outright boner joke? Yeah. And then also... That it's referencing a very specific sound of an... Yeah, it's so good. Wayshold is the best, man. The... I did like the... spooky fake-out ending of, like, her walking around in the house. Yeah, that's good. That was really good. And I like the... Yeah, the... It's not... exciting to see a killer be taken out with a gun. No. But I love the viciousness of the killer.

hooking people and dragging them with the hook, those were all really good additions to the... It's surprising that hasn't happened before this, you know. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's a lot better movie than I think it gets credit for, Matt. That's right. You gave the first one a 10. I gave it an 8.5. What are you going to give this one? I'll give it a 9.5. I still think the original I would like.

Watch that just because I feel like on a script level, it's a little tighter. But in terms of delivering the goods, I think the sequel delivers the goods more. Yeah, I agree. But I'll give it a 7.5. Nice. And now we're at a crossroads here. Let me explain. I'll see you there. Okay. What do we do? We haven't discussed whether we're going to do this third installment, which I hear is horrible, but I'm also a completist. I don't know what to do.

Our next episode comes out the day that the new one is released. So I don't know if it's realistic that we can go see the movie and get an episode out that day. Right. So do we... put a pause on this franchise? Do we do the third one, then the fourth one? Do we move on to something else? What do you think? What do we do? That's a good question, Matt. I mean...

I guess the completest in me wants to watch I'll Always Know because I've never seen it. I do too, I think. And I have some curiosity. I'm down. Okay. If we do... The movie, if we do the remake, is that one of those things where... we, we watch it and then we talk about it after we watch it. I think so. Yeah. Like the day, like we go see it together. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Fun little date. That's fun. Yeah. Um, so would that be the,

couple weeks after the movie comes out? It would be, we would record it probably within a week, within those two weeks. So yeah. So on the day that the reboot or whatever, it's... comes out, we'll be discussing I Will Always Know. Yeah, and then that'll give a couple weeks for people to go see the new one. And then we'll see the new one and we'll talk about that. Okay, does that sound good? Yeah, that's good. Does that work for you? Yeah. I know what you did...

Last sum four. We're watching all four. It should be. But now it's just the same title as the first one. Confusing. But the characters are in it. This is like Halloween. This is the new trend that I actually don't like. I don't like it either. It's confusing. This should just be called I'll Never Forget what you did last time. Yes, do something. It's such a cool title.

that can have such fun variations to just go back to the original title. It is like, you know, it is cynical because it is like somebody being like,

Well, we're doing this because the title is the thing we're selling here. So let's just go to that title so people don't get confused. It feels like a real... dumbing down i haven't seen the trailer but judging from the cast it looks like this is a legacy sequel thing where there's a lot of young people in it so assuming a similar thing happens to the young people and so that's why it's called i know what you did last summer like the whole thing starts again

but I don't think I'm curious where this next movie will take us but if they're kind of coming off the heels of this one as far as we know DJ Wett's dead the son's dead We don't know who the killer is and I'll always. Maybe they'll finally pull the Freddie Prinze Jr. bad thing. They've been teasing it. Sure. Yeah, we'll see. All right, we'll see you guys next time. See you later. Thanks for joining us. Bye. Bye-bye.

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