¶ Welcome to Wisdom Rising
It's time to remember your divine purpose and limitless potential . Welcome to Wisdom Rising , the official podcast of Moon Rising Shamanic Institute . Join shamanic Reiki practitioners Christine Rene , isabel Wells and Chantel Ochoa as we guide you on a journey of radical self-discovery and spiritual guidance .
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We are here to help you acknowledge , reconcile and balance your energy so that you can awaken to the whispers of wisdom rising from within . Hello , hello and welcome back to another amazing episode here on the Wisdom Rising podcast . In today's episode you'll hear Christine and Chantel dive into how we can embody our archetypes to live a more spiritually aligned life .
In this episode they focus on four main examples of the archetypes the miser , the seeker , the nature child and the shapeshifter to really show you tangible examples of how , when we understand our spiritual archetypes , it can revolutionize the way that we see ourselves and approach our daily
¶ Four Key Archetypes Introduced
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And when we can alchemize our shadow selves and undesired patterns through conscious awareness and universal laws , we can also lean into the empowered version of our archetypes .
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Welcome , welcome to the call , welcome , welcome . I am your host , christine Rene , and so is Chantel Ochoa . We are going to be talking about all of this beautiful light side of archetypes and how we can embody it in our daily lives . To really emphasize how the archetypes can be embodied and affect our daily life , and I love this idea .
I love this concept because last week on the show we really talked about the shadow side and when we do the shadow work and we start alchemizing the shadow , embracing the shadow , loving the shadow , then we can start stepping into the light side of our archetypes .
And when we can identify and embody that , then we can really make a positive impact in our life , because you're really embodying your higher self , you're really embodying that grandest version of who you are and you're doing it so consciously of like . Okay , here's the situation . What if I enveloped myself in this archetype ?
That's already part of who I am to the highest degree available to me , and what does that feel like when I move through life ? What did I miss there , chantel ?
¶ The Miser: Embodying Abundance
No , that was great and that's exactly what it is . And so even if we , you know , we , like I said , label them as the archetypes , but take it to a different degree of the different aspects of ourself .
And so that's what I love about it it is embodying our higher self , with a conscious awareness of how we show up and how we respond and how we act in certain situations . I did pull . So there is a deck of archetypes , and so I , kind of before we came on , asked like who would like to come forward in this conversation .
And so I do have a few , and I thought , you know , because that would be a great way of bringing a few in , and the first one that came out is the Midas and the Miser , and I love that because it's all about our sense of abundance , right ?
So when we're in our lacking mindset , that's more of our shadow , but when we can be in the Miser energy , that's more of our shadow .
But when we can be in the miser energy , that's when we can embody the abundance , that's when we can start manifesting , claiming all of the things that we want to have in our life and know that it's safe , know that it's part of our journey here that it is safe to do , so we don't have to be in this poverty consciousness , and I just love that , and so
that's definitely one that we can talk about . The Seeker came out too so Adventurous Seeker of Knowledge , seeker of Wisdom , seeker of Truth , nature , the child nature , going out into the world and really connecting with nature . And Shapeshifter , which I think is a great one .
I love the shapeshifter and that is the version of us that can go out and just merge in all situations and with different people and um , personalities and everything you know , I think , in the , I feel in the spiritual world , we , you know we might have one gift that we're awakened to , but the many different aspects of that open up , right , and so it is
like that shapeshifter where we can be a Reiki practitioner and we can be a shamanic practitioner and we can go out and , do you know , entity , retreat , you know all those things , and here doing podcasts , and that's us embodying that shapeshifter of all the elements of who we are .
Yeah , it's like really switching out those hats . So notice how Chantel gave us like four brief examples of different archetypes and like we can use each one of those to kind of really recognize , okay , what is the light element of those ? Do they resonate with you ? And like how can you fully step into like the positive aspects of each one ?
So I say like , yeah , let's do it Like if these are the cards that showed up , let's go ahead and play , hoping that they resonate with you and different aspects of yourself , knowing that there's lots and lots of different archetypes .
So if you haven't listened to the previous shows on archetypes , know that there's , I think , 72 different types that are are um really emphasized in Carolyn misses book um Contracts , and so know that like there there's definitely a lot of archetypes out there and Carolyn Miss definitely hones in on these primary 72 and you can really find and identify with many of
them . Usually we have 12 in our archetypal wheel . That is like the blueprint of your personality , and they each have this lighter side and this darker side , shadowy side , and when we can start working with this we can really look at the lighter side of embodiment practice . So these four , let's go ahead and start with the miser Like .
I would love to like just dive in and feel into each of those qualities and noticing how would we blanket ourselves in the archetype Like . I don't think you necessarily even need to have the archetype in your wheel to go .
I need the miser today in my life so that I can fully be embodied in prosperity and knowing that other people are happy to pay me for my services . Right , like that energy of like .
How can I say you know , this isn't part of who I am , but today I'm going to embody it anyway and really use that energy to put on that hat , put on that cap , cloak yourself in it and say yes to life from that lens .
Yeah , so definitely I love how you were bringing that out is that the archetypes ? They kind of awaken within us what we're , we're we're moving and how we're shifting in life , Right ? So it's not even as the collective . As we grow and evolve , archetypes start coming in all the time , based on where we are .
So with the miser , if that's something an archetype you want to work with , that's typically people who look , we're looking at being more our own boss , opening our own businesses , our own companies , doing our own thing , you know , shifting away from the nine to five .
So I'm seeing this a lot in my community , where people are really diving into what they can offer , what are the services that they have , and so the miser calling in the miser and knowing I am abundant in all my things , all my business , my home and my life in general , and so that can really help you to start to grow in the abundance of your business .
It's everything you touch becomes gold , and when you know that , it's like you are already putting the intention , you're declaring it right Because our energy will follow that . So everything you know and touch is going to become abundant and successful for you touch is going to become abundant and successful for you .
Yeah , absolutely . So . I have miser in my archetype and right , and so notice , like the idea of being an entrepreneur has never scared me . Like I would choose this any day over a nine to five . Like I fully want to be in my own power and my own creative process .
I don't want to follow the rules that someone else gives me on how to do business or play by the quote , unquote the man or corporations . I've never wanted to play that game , ever . I remember when I was younger , working for a giant corporation and be like , yeah , no , I'm done , I'm not doing this .
Like if I'm not directly impacting someone's life , there's no point for me doing this . And the Miser came in and really helped me establish like I have the capacity to offer services that people would be willing to pay for and not feeling bad about that Right .
So I think the shadowy side of the Miser is that low money mindset , that I'm taking people's money and it's not valuable or , you know , no one has enough money to pay for my services or you know , like that lack mentality is like the shadowy side of the miser and the and the positive what I'm hearing from Chantel .
It's like everything you touch turns to gold , Like knowing that your services is of the highest quality and people are going to be so happy to pay you in exchange for those services . Right , and you know , like , where's the balance in that of like here I am ? Is this like not being the prostitute ? Like I need to exchange everything ?
It's the miser is like knowing that they're valuable and sharing their area of expertise in , in for , for money , and knowing that that prosperity is theirs for the taking .
Yeah , exactly . And so , with the miser , coming forward too is what it does , is it offers you a flow . So , when there are certain people that are struggling to pay , you know , for your services , you're so abundant that it gives you the opportunity to say , hey , I can , you know , do a discount on this , I can help you in this way .
Right , that's the balance that we can bring forward , but it's because we're coming from a sense of security and abundance within ourself that we can give . We can give even more than what we typically would , and I love that with the miser is because it really does put a twist on our abundant mindset . And so what are the things that we can do ?
We can bring forward money bowls , right . We can donate , we can offer to , you know , like the homeless or you know . There's just so many different things that we can do . That's in abundance of giving that in return , we receive back , because that's the universal law of energy , of exchange of money . Right Is , what we give , we've received back .
It's the service of .
And so when you can line it all up and know that you are giving of your heart , because that's the biggest part of it , right Is we're giving of ourself , from our sense of our heart of love and compassion , and not of greediness , because the miser can have a greedy side effect to it , can have that shadow aspect of greed and it's all mine and that's not
when you're standing in the light of it . You're able to give the offerings that you have because you're doing it in the compassionate part of who you are , because you're in such an
¶ The Seeker: Finding Your Truth
abundance that it's okay to offer as well , absolutely . What are some of your things that you do that help you to bring forward that abundant mindset ? You know ?
I love creating up sacred space for money dates . I don't know if you guys have ever heard of this term of money dates .
I may have mentioned it previously on other podcasts , but it's where when you know you need to do payroll or you need to put together your payments or anything money related taxes , and we were right around the corner for doing tax season it's really setting up sacred space to do your financial duties right .
And so you are lighting candles , you're putting flowers on your desk . It's like really coming to toward your financial work , the pieces of that entrepreneur that must be done , and doing it in a sacred way . I think so often entrepreneurs are like especially spiritual entrepreneurs . They don't like this part of the job , right .
So how can you bring the spirituality into the finances ? Like , how can you bring it forward ? And before you start looking at your QuickBooks or looking at your bank accounts and reconciling those things , like , how can you step forward in that of going ?
I can take 10 minutes to meditate and feel into the embodiment , the fullest of the capacity of the miser , and knowing that all as well and that I can be in this flow of abundance and then open up all of your financials Like , I'm lighting the candles , I'm doing the smudging , I'm creating sacred space and a container .
Okay , I'm doing this for one hour , right , create the container for it and then do it Right . So , if you haven't got your taxes done , those are , do this too , really soon . Um , like tomorrow , right , I think , yeah , I think it's tomorrow . I've got an extension and I'm like , yeah , I need to get that done .
Um of like , doing it in sacred space and then when you come into that , you're giving thank you .
Like , when I write my checks on the memo line , it's always thank you , thank you , thank you , thank you for the money I'm sending out and now that we're doing it all , like , I'm paying my my you know , my energy bill online and paying my phone bill online , like , and sometimes those are all automatic .
So , as I go through those line items , can I take a moment , even if it's just 30 seconds , and going thank you , thank you , thank you for the electricity . Can I say thank you for my internet service ? Can I say thank you for ?
You know , whatever those money out goes out , because it's just like Chantel said , it's going to come back to you and I really believe that it comes back to you in tenfold . So if I'm giving thanks to my electricity , I'm going to have this abundance of energy available to me through through what I need in my home .
Right Like it's , it's allowing yourself to come into that state of awareness and abundance and releasing that scarcity mentality , and so it's really creating that sacred container to do your financial work .
So look at your calendar and actually set a date of I'm going to have a money date , I'm going to check in with my finances , I'm going to reconcile my accounts , I'm going to look at my profit loss statements , whatever it may be , and do it with intention . Light your candles , do your things to like , really set up sacred space for that work .
Yeah , yes , that's an amazing practice Also giving thanks to what we call debt . Right , you can also switch the concept of debt to your assets , because really that means that you were abundant enough to be approved for the loan you have .
You've worked hard enough to have that credit score , whatever it is , so it's giving us the opportunity of being in this abundant state of mind , even if we're talking about paying our debts down .
Yeah Well , and I you know , that whole conversation is really also very interesting to me because there's such a negative mindset around debt and when we can say no , no , no , no , no , like if we can take out the negative connotation and go I am , this is an exchange of , I'm utilizing this asset .
It's an asset Like I have this asset available to me so that I can do the thing and I'm I'm happily paying that bill every month to pay down my credit card debt . It's it's an asset Like it allowed me to take this course .
It allowed me to take that go to that retreat or whatever it was like it's an exchange , right and the interest rate is worth it right . So it's oftentimes I'm like it is absolutely okay to go . You know , like my going to my Tantra Wasco retreat back in October .
I put that on a credit card right and I knew that the information that came out of that experience was going to come back to me tenfold right . And now here I am . I love teaching the divine feminine workshops . I love integrating it into our soul rising course . I'm putting out more and more information on this , why ? Because it was that experience .
I feel like my energetic signature expanded tremendously by taking it all flowed from that experience . My personal life shifted my , my energy . Experience shifted my sexual self expanded right .
Like all of these things , I'm like absolutely freaking worth that debt on the credit card Right and when I can really embody all of those benefits , it's going to expand out into my clients and into my students so that I receive money back to pay that down . So I it's like how can we lose the fear that we're not going to have enough to pay it down ?
And going Absolutely , if I invest in this , it's going to come back to me and I really , um I . That's why I encourage you to take our workshops and our courses and programs and really feel into like how is this going to serve you afterwards ?
Like how is your life going to be so expansive that the money of what you invested into is not going to be a problem , right ? So that's another way of looking at the miser going . How are we investing in ourselves for our expansive state of mind into the future ?
Yes , how are we investing in ourselves ? That's it , that's totally it . And you know , just on a quick note of like , yeah , me going to Costa Rica with you . Part of my intention with that was to go and learn how to do it , and here in May I'm hosting my first like retreat . So you know , it really does .
It comes that tenfold , and that's if you have the mindset to run with it and not look at the debt of what you spent , but the asset and how it's going to return back to us . So , yes , love that , love that Do you want to do the seeker now ? Yeah , I totally do . Okay , so I know the seeker is in mind .
I love yeah , it's more , I'm born into it the Sagittarius . It's definitely like I am a seeker of truth , I'm a seeker of knowledge , I love adventure , I love to travel and journey and do all those things . So with it , the light attributes are thirst for wisdom and truth , wherever they are . So the seeker within you is always going to be in search of truth .
It's going to be in search of what and how things are going to benefit you or how you can benefit others . But you're seeking it out and whether it's text , whether it's taking the classes , it's taking courses , it's going on retreats , it's traveling the world .
Whatever it is for you , the seeker within us is always looking for something that's going to help us to grow .
Absolutely . It really is looking for that search for God or enlightenment and finding its own path of truth , right . The shadowy side is when that search becomes lost and that you're a lost wanderer , not really having any direction
¶ Nature Child: Connecting with Earth's Wisdom
or container in which you're doing your search right . And so how can we embody the lighter side and saying and going ? My seeker archetype is really honing in for this embodiment of what experience , what emotion are you hoping to obtain ? Right , like having some type of goal .
Orientation can help the seeker really stay focused on what they're trying to obtain instead of endlessly searching and not really knowing where they're going .
Yeah , and that is is when we feel lost . We can tap into the seeker within us so we can have that path and we can journey a well-traveled path right , it's kind of like being on that good dirt the red dirt road is what it's called . It's like you're being able to journey towards the things that you're seeking because it's heart you're calling .
You're being able to journey towards the things that you're seeking because it's heart you're calling , you're being called to it and whatever it is for you .
But with the seeker , it is seeking the truth of self and if that is the enlightenment , if that is your incension , if that is you're trying to find the higher source of all things , go seek those things out , because that's an inner calling for you , and so let the journey unfold for you . Yeah , absolutely yeah .
For me , like all the like coming into energy healing and everything , that was something that I think I was seeking my whole life .
But until it showed up , I didn't really know what it was titled and what it was , but it was always something in me that I was seeking and then , once I found it , it was like oh there , it is right , there's my gold nugget , I just found it and that embodied . I was able to embody so many different aspects of myself because of it .
So for a long time I think I was on that lost road of where am I going and what am I doing ? And so when it came , it was like oh , there you are . I've been looking for you for a long time .
Right Totally , and know that if the title of secret is is not um , if you can't really visualize what that is , know that other titles for this would be like wander or nomad or vagabond .
And noticing those aspects of the vagabond who's just going from one adventure to the next and really living life in the present and really feeling like , yeah , there can be definitely um shadowy aspects of like not knowing where to go next or how to go next , and yet they're still on that , that that adventure side .
It kind of reminds me of Sagittarius , honestly , like that . That's probably why it resonates so much with you , my , my Sagittarius friend of like how does it really tap into this ?
It's not necessarily goal oriented , it's not the Capricorn , it's the Sagittarius , where it's really enjoying the present and just taking one step at a time and really feeling into the fullness of life wherever you are .
Yeah , and you fill with the secret too . That's a very prominent one that's out there right now . A lot of people are seeking . They're seeking where they want to be . A lot of people are traveling , moving from state to state , you know wherever their hometown is . A lot of people are moving out of it . They're breaking old ties , you know .
People are traveling more , wanting to live in trailers and just be living the nomad life , and so , with a seeker , it's really powerful to see it in yourself of what is it that you are honing in on or what do you feel like you're missing ?
Because if you feel like you're missing something , it's typically the seeker that's going to show up for you because it's got some plan or some goal for you but , like you said , it's not being like I have this deadline with it . It's being in flow of it and knowing what it is , but also what doesn't work for you .
So when you feel something in you that doesn't work for you , so when you feel something in you that doesn't resonate , that is a seeker letting you know too . This isn't meant for us . We got to let that part go , release that Holding us down , because a seeker doesn't want to be held back .
A seeker doesn't want to be , you know , suppressed or oppressed or anything , or have the boss or have somebody tell you you have to do this or that . The seeker is free flow .
Totally Like , let me go do me . Yeah , well , and I love this . Like this is not one in my chart . Like I , even though I have Sagittarius as my um moon rising like my Sagittarius sign , I still have seeker as an archetype , which is interesting to me .
And also , knowing that when I'm on vacation , when I'm already like scheduled in to be , um , to be away from home , that is typically when I like really try to embody the seeker of going .
How can I be in flow , expect that the universe is going to show up for me , and all of the places and spaces in which I show up , so like , for example , I'm going to Japan for pilgrimage , this is a great time for me to embody the seeker so that I can , like it's almost like having an expectation of miracles happening , having an expectation that the
universe is going to show up for me in every place in space that I go . So , whether it is in the hotel room and enjoying a meal or in the temples , right , like , how can I be in that seeker space of having this open-mindedness and an open heart , that , wherever I am , I'm going to feel the richness of that experience ? Like that's what it feels like .
So , even though , like in my day-to-day experience , I might not be a seeker Like and I and I and I , really I'm I love reading and I love like finding truth , but it's not in the same capacity as like the full seeker , right . But when I'm like going on a specific trip , that's really where I find myself going .
Okay , how can I embody the seeker and really put that , that cloak on , to be fully embodied in that experience , right , and so , like , that's a great way for you to start to feel into it . Like , maybe it's not part of your everyday life , maybe it's .
I'm taking a day trip or I'm going to the library , right , like , like there's some little pieces that you can just go .
Okay , in this moment I'm just going to put on that seeker hat and go reveal to me the book in which is going to help open my eyes to broader horizons , or whatever it may be , and let your intuition be utilized through the seeker archetype .
Yeah , it doesn't have to be a big trip , like you said . It's going to the library , it's going to some workshop , a ceremony , whatever it is that is happening near you .
Sometimes it's just doing the little things , but it brings forward a sense of truth within you , a knowing or a knowledge that you needed to learn , and that's really all it is is seeking that within you is knowing your own heart , knowing all it is , is seeking that within you is knowing your own heart , knowing your own voice , the seeking , the wisdom within
which , then , can bring us to the child , the nature child , which I think I'm doing that a little bit .
You know , I had a dream last night and I don't remember the whole dream , but at the end I was snuggling with my lion , with my power animal , and I was like , oh my gosh , and he totally had his head like over my shoulder and I was looking at him , right like in his eyes , and it was just , I've never , that's never happened in any of my journeys or
experience with lion . He's always just really strong with me and a very powerful protector . But no , he was . I'm like , oh , maybe I needed that love . I don't know .
I'm still sitting with it , but that's what I woke up to this morning was literally like hanging out with my lion , which was a trip , so having child nature coming up and hanging out in nature and letting nature be our healer , as well as going out and sitting in nature , sitting with the trees , sitting on the grass , the dirt , whatever it is , hanging out with
your animals at home and knowing what their presence is for you , and so that is something like me personally I'm dealing with , because I have animals and sometimes I feel like they kind of entrap me at home because I have the responsibility of them and there's things I know that are coming up and I need to find sitters and all these things and it kind of ,
um , it's difficult for me . That's one of I'm on the shadow aspect of that right now , trying to figure out why I have animals and I have things to do . I'm going on a trip and I I got to figure it out and so , yeah , myself , Right , totally .
So . Note that in the archetypes there's , I believe , six different child archetypes and nature child is one of them . And really Nature child is one of them . And really I feel like the nature child is like how you really can step into nature and see the magic and nature , right .
So this is talking to animals , talking to the plants , really enjoying the miraculousness that is inherent in nature , like what's the miracle around you , right , the flowing water , the breeze , like all of it , and really feeling and tapping into that space , like so the lightest side is like if you're , let's say , you're , going camping , there's no fear of getting
lost in the woods .
It's like all of nature is going to support me and take care of me , and like nature herself is going to help me tap into my , the safety in which I can exist here , right , this is why I love that our book club right now we're just finishing up book club on Brady and sweetgrass and when you read this book it's just like , oh yeah , nature is all around
us . Like it's so clear that the author has this archetype like fully , fully , fully in her , this archetype of of I can come to nature with a listening ear , of like are you available to help support me ? Is there a if I ask for your support , will it be freely given or will I hear a no ?
And can that no be honored and not taken like , not taken advantage of Right ? And so it's this inherent , flowy communication with all of nature around you , and I just love like . So if you're looking for the the most embodied , fullest archetype of the child spirit of nature , go read Brady and sweetgrass , cause it's just so evident .
And then it's like bringing in those aspects of play right . Like I , my daughter is very much the child with nature , because I just send her outside , like if she's dysregulated , if she's having a lot of anxiety , it's just like go outside , just go outside , come back in an hour . You're going to feel so much better . Why ? Because it feeds her soul .
So , yeah , she might come home wet because she's playing in the Creek and it's 40 degrees outside and that doesn't surprise me .
She might like the other day I was teaching a class and I wasn't home and I came back and she had like made a staff , like she had found a stick , brought it home , put it in the bathtub , scrubbed it down , found some sandpaper , sanded it off , decorated it with all of her nature art , like feathers and homemade braids and all these things .
And I'm like cool . She's in her energy of the nature , spirit of like , the child within her Right , and so it's utilizing this , this energy of like I'm one with nature , and how can it support me in feeling my most expansive self , like ? I love it when children have this archetype because they're so free in nature . It doesn't scare them , right .
Like there's some like . My son is completely different . He's the opposite . He doesn't want to get dirty , he doesn't like it . Like , and he's 18 and he's still this way . Like I remember he came home yesterday , he was doing his internship and he was making himself dinner . He's like all right , mom , like I really just don't like having anything on my hands .
Like I just can't handle my hands being dirty . I'm like , yeah , I know you couldn't . Even when you were two , I couldn't set him down in the grass because his whole body would cringe . If I try to set him down on bare grass , he couldn't handle it . He would like playing in the mud was never something he would do , right .
Versus my daughter completely opposite child I'm never surprised if she is covered head to toe in dirt and has rolled around in the mud , like I'm like , yeah , yeah , yeah , like this is fine , and so it's like honoring , like she can embrace it .
But how would my son , who really struggles in nature , like he doesn't do camping very well , like he doesn't do those things he's starting to find the appreciation is like okay , I can exercise , he likes exercise , so if he can go for a big run up a mountain , he's missing a lot of that appreciation of nature along the way .
But he enjoys the view at the top of the mountain Right , and so it's like , okay , in that moment he might be able to grasp this appreciation for nature and the childlike wonder of nature of like , wow , I'm at the top of the mountain and so it's , how can we invite it even further to slow down and play along the way ?
There's the child aspect of this , of how can we playfully engage with nature .
Yeah , yeah , when I was a kid we so our house is near the riverbed and that was that was our everyday . That's what we did .
We had the you go out and play when the sun rises until the lights come on , kind of thing , and we would go and gather frogs and tadpoles and create these little compounds for our , our pet frogs , and connect all these boxes together and make ponds and different things in the boxes . Um , but that's how , like we grew up .
And then now it's the other day I was we're doing some yard work in the front and there's piles of dirt . I'm just sitting in there breaking the clumps of you know , I'm just playing in it and my husband's laughing at me . He's like what are you doing ? I'm like I don't know , I'm like grounding , but I really love it .
It's so tangible and the breaking of the clumps of the dirt and the way it I don't know it was just it was good , it was soothing in the moment and so it's being playful in it .
It's still being able to get down on the ground and play in the dirt and do your sand castles and kind of stuff like that , whatever it is , but it's what calls to us in the moment and allowing ourselves to get our hands dirty if we're not afraid of it , right ? But for those who are just sitting on a porch , just take it in the view .
Sometimes that's really all you need you know , and that's okay . Like you're saying . Like when you get to the mountain , look at the vistas and let that speak to you , yeah .
It's interesting because , like my child archetype is the divine child , very much like more on the mystic child side of things . And looking at my life of like what do I really want to find my edge in with the summer ?
Like summer is going to be in Montana here in the next couple months , like yes , it's a couple months out , like we are getting snow here still . And going , like what would really help me find my edge in nature ?
And really it's like I don't remember the last time I got my feet muddy or I walked in dirt or did some Creek walking one , because the water here is freaking cold Right , like I get that . And how is that finding my edge ?
Like not necessarily outside of my comfort zone , but going this is going to help me tune into the , the , the child nature archetype and really feeling the wisdom and connection with all of nature and not separate from her .
Yeah , there's no separation . And so then , when we get into the shapeshifter which I do , love
¶ Shapeshifter: Navigating Multiple Roles
this one . So the light attribute of the shapeshifter is skill and navigating through different levels of consciousness , the ability to see the potential in everything and so , collectively , you know , in society , being able to merge with different aspects of people and different ways of life . But it's also within the different layers of ourself and our consciousness .
And where are we ? So , if you think of , like , our energy centers , from , like , root to crown , right , they're two different aspects of ourselves . So root is very earthy , it's very connecting to our sense of stability , our security , our childhood , right .
Whereas in having a strong foundation , then we go into crown and that's very like we're lifting ourself up , we're seeing a much broader view of everything and we're unattached from most of the experiences of life , right ?
So we're not a much broader view of everything and we're unattached from most of the experiences of life , right , so we're not having an emotional attachment because we're seeing things from a bigger perspective and understanding it .
So it's being able to shift between all the different aspects of ourself , whether it's work , it's play , it's friendships , how , like , if you think of all your different friends , I'm sure they don't all match up , right ?
They're not all cookie cutter friends , they're all different aspects of who you are bringing in different versions of you and having that friend that you can go out and be like , hey , let's go do this .
And then another friend might be your quiet friend that wants to go and talk about the books and do that , and then you have your party friend that wants to go out and be wild for the night , you know , know .
So these are all the different aspects of ourself and each one is showing up and being a mirror of ourself , because the shapeshifter is allowing us to be able to mold and shape to each of them as well . Right , and ?
so I think the like , the judgment on the shapeshifter is kind of like the trickster , like your face , like right , and , and it's her highest capacity , that light version is more of how can you like ?
I think the highest version is like how can you do the healing work necessary to embody different , these different aspects , right , like , I think , of the shape shifter , um , from like the shaman's point of view of in one moment I can be in my lioness energy and in the next moment I can be in the energy of bear and in the next moment I could be in the
energy of fish and how can I embody the power of my power animals to do the healing work ? Like that's , also like an aspect of the shape shifter and utilizing the power of whatever hat you're putting on .
And I love , like the , the like both versions , what Chantel is telling you and what I'm telling you have their , their , this beautiful mystery about them , of like what feels good and the moment of like . How can you be most expansive in that shape shifter energy versus like the moment of like ?
How can you be most expansive and that shapeshifter energy versus a trickster of like I'm tricking you and I'm trying to like emotionally manipulate the situation to get something I want Right , like that would be the shadow aspect .
Yeah , that's the personal agenda . Yeah , but you know , we're also all shapeshifters .
If you look at it like you're a mom , you're a wife , you have a job , you know , so you can go to work and you have that hat that you're wearing , and then you go home and now you're being , you're playing the mom , now you're playing the wife , you're playing the caretaker right , you play the friend . It's . We are all doing this every day .
We just don't look at it like that . And so when we can see it like , oh wait , that's a shapeshifter that's showing up , how can I embody the best version of myself as a mom right now ? How can I be a nurturer and a caretaker ? And then how can I turn around in the same day and become the lover , you know ?
And then how do I wake up the next morning ? Now I got to go and be the boss at work and or hold space for your clients , you know . And so we are shape-shifting every day , all day , so that we can be all the different layers and levels of ourself and noticing how stressful it can be when you're trying to wear more than one hat at a time .
Like when , in the morning , if I am really need to be in my mom role and I'm also checking , checking my Facebook messenger and responding to students . And like trying to come up with my to-do list for the day and also make the breakfast and pack the lunches . And like be mom and be supportive and to my children and helping them get out the door .
Like when you're trying to wear more than one hat at a time , how complicated that feels , how disorganized it feels , and taking a breath of going . Like which role am I in right now and can I honor that Right ? Can I just be in the present moment with my child , if I'm meant to be a mother right now ? And how can I say no ?
And this is something that my kids get onto me all , not all the time , but like enough of going . Mom , what are you looking at right now ? Like I want to have a conversation with you . You're getting distracted , right ? Yep , I'm doing it again , Right .
Like I'm looking at something for work and not paying attention to my 18 year old , trying to have like a um , you know heartfelt connection . Like whoops , I don't . I'm not wearing the right hat right now . I'm in the shadowy side of like not being fully present in the role that I'm being asked to be in right now .
Yeah , and the phones are a big issue in a lot of relationships right now , because how many times do you get into your phone for one thing and you end up scrolling for like 20 minutes on something you didn't even go into ? For You're like , how did I get into Facebook and I was going into my bank account or whatever ?
You know and all people see is this they don't know what you're looking at and where your mindset is and why you're in there .
They just know there's this detachment , and so we are really having to be aware of that , especially as entrepreneurs , when everything's in our phone and I used to not be , you know , 2015 , 20 years ago , and now it's everywhere and so it is being conscious and making sure that we're available in the relationships that we're growing and developing in our life , so
that we don't push our people away
¶ Alchemizing Archetypes Masterclass
based off of what that one hat is , based off of what that one hat is . And so , yeah , being that shape shifter , knowing in the moment , what hat am I playing right now ? What role do I have right now ?
Absolutely so . A little recap we went through four of the main four of the 72 archetypes of the Midas , the Miser , the Seeker , the Nature Child and the Shape Shifter and know that this is like small scratch of the surface . And if you're ready to dive in deeper , chantel has got a six week masterclass coming up at the end of the month .
Do you want to tell us a little bit about this opportunity to kind of dive in deeper to the archetypes ?
So with them in the , in the masterclass , we're going to be working with the victim , the prostitute , the saboteur and the child that you resonate with the most , and for a week each we're going to walk with them . There will be journal prompts that you'll be provided .
You're going to be noticing and having full awareness of self , of like , how is the victim showing up for me right now ? How am I alchemizing that into the warrior aspect of myself and then going into the saboteur houses ? How am I sabotaging myself ?
So it's really bringing in a conscious awareness of yourself so that you can shift your own conditioning , your own patterns . And at the end of it we're going to have a week of integration where you're going to work , a week of integration where you're going to work with all of them .
You're going to be integrating all of the information and wisdom that you've learned about yourself so you can apply this to your day-to-day . And when you apply it , every day is a day of learning a aspect of yourself . But eventually you start to break those , um , the conditionings that hold you back . And that's really what it is .
It's going through the healing process so that we can be fully empowered , fully embodying our higher self and stepping into who we want to be and who we see ourself as , without all the layers of conditioning and stuff like that . So I'm really excited about it . It's going to be a lot of fun .
It's going to be a lot of work and a lot of it just is , but I'm going to be a lot of fun . It's going to be a lot of work and a lot of um , it just is , but I'm going to be there to support you through the whole thing . Yeah , and it's very interactive .
I , and I love it . Like , I feel like , um , I definitely did this one-on-one with Chantel and it's just . It really helps you recognize what your strengths and weaknesses are and how to alchemize yourself into that highest version of who you are .
And so knowing where the saboteur is showing up , knowing where the prostitute showing up , knowing where your victim is showing up , is such an impactful piece of your healing journey and just bringing what's in the subconscious into the conscious Cause when we have things in the conscious , then we can have a conscious choice about how we respond to different situations .
So I highly recommend this masterclass . Chantelle , will you let us know what the dates are and the price , please ?
Yes , so we are starting on May 27th . It's one o'clock to three o'clock standard or pacific standard time in april I'm sorry , april . I am so in may , right now , april 27th through june 1st , so it's every sunday for six weeks , from one to three uh pacific standard time and then , um , it's 3333 or two payments of like 166 or something like that .
So yeah you have the payment plan on this one , or you can pay in full , whatever you're comfortable with . And yeah , we start on the 27th .
Yay , super excited . Well , thank you so much for all of that information and the last couple of weeks talking about archetypes . It's definitely one of a juicy conversation I love having with you . So thank you for participating in all of that and until next time , may you awaken to the whispers of wisdom rising from within .
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