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Wisdom of the Sages

Raghunath Cappo & Kaustubha Daswisdomofthesages.libsyn.com
Truths about life from the timeless wisdom of the Bhakti-yoga tradition - fun, relevant, and deep. Learn about dharma, yoga, bhakti, and how it relates to all the basic questions of life. This show is about how to live your best life, let go of the external distractions, and uncover the spiritual happiness that lies within the heart as the true nature of the soul. Raghunath and Kaustubha's connection goes back to their teens in the New York Hardcore Punk Scene of the early 80s, through serving together as Bhakti-yogi monks in the 90's, to sharing their experiences in the world of yoga in the 21st century.
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1773: Let Your FOMO Be for the Divine | Saint Augustine and the Gopīs

There is a restlessness in the human heart that nothing in this world can satisfy. Saint Augustine called it the clue to our true nature — we were made for God, and until we find that, the searching never stops. Every object has its dharma, its purpose. The sages of the Bhakti yoga tradition say the dharma of the soul is divine love. It's what we're made for. In this episode Raghunath and Kaustubha explore that human restlessness alongside the Srimad Bhagavatam's Rāsa Līlā — where the gopīs of V...

May 21, 202656 minEp. 1773

1772: Everyone Worships Something | Free Will and the Object of Our Affection

Everyone worships something. The rock star, the ideology, the bottle of wine, the beautiful person across the room. Dostoevsky identified it as an incessant, painful longing: so long as man remains free, he strives for nothing so persistently as to find someone worthy of complete surrender. We have free will — and where we invest our affection becomes our most important choice. In this episode Raghunath and Kaustubha explore that longing alongside the Vedic text's most sacred passage — where the...

May 20, 202656 minEp. 1772

1771: The Weakness of Willpower & The Power of Attention

Willpower is fundamentally the wrong tool for inner transformation. French philosopher and mystic Simone Weil argued that attention — not discipline or force of will — is the true engine of inner change. Raghunath and Kaustubha bring this insight into conversation with the Gopīs of Vṛndāvana, whose loving meditation on Kṛṣṇa accomplished what no effort of will could. The Bhagavad-gītā's method of inner transformation is simple: turn your attention toward Kṛṣṇa. And the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam promises...

May 19, 202659 minEp. 1771

1770: The Mind of the Buddha, The Mind of the Gopī

Buddhism and Bhaktivedanta share a lot of common ground. Both embrace the same radical insight — that the mind is the architect of our experience, and that what we feed it determines the life we live. But in this episode Raghunath and Kaustubha explore where Bhakti takes it one step further. Buddhism negates the names and forms of matter, freeing the mind from attachment, pointing toward liberation. Bhakti provides the positive side. Not just improved wellbeing. Not just liberation. The prema pr...

May 14, 202655 min

1769: Answer the Call of the Heart | The Bhaktivedanta Path of Renunciation

Life is kind of empty if there is not something so meaningful and beautiful that we feel a calling to give everything out of love. We spend our lives looking for that higher cause — or feeling empty if we haven't found it. The total giving of the self is what Thomas Merton calls a blind spiritual instinct. And when you actually follow it, people may think you've gone crazy. Raghunath and Kaustubha explore that calling alongside Krishna's flute-song call of love to the gopis, instigating a "terri...

May 13, 20261 hr 1 minEp. 1769

1768: From Beauty to Absolute Beauty | Plato, Krishna and the Rāsa Dance

Most people think of God simply as a witness or facilitator of their own romantic affairs. The Bhaktivedanta tradition reveals that the conjugal love experienced by human beings is a mere reflection of a spiritual reality in which the same love exists in an absolute, pristine state. So we don't need to turn away from beauty and love in this world. We just need to see the source and origin behind it. Raghunath and Kaustubha explore Plato's ladder of beauty alongside the bhakti path — and find the...

May 12, 202657 minEp. 1764

1767: Entering the Rāsa Dance with the Eye of Love

Every love story ever told — the Song of Solomon, Layla and Majnun, the Bollywood heroine running toward her true love — is a shadow of this. The desire for intimacy with the divine is the deepest longing in the human heart. And after six and a half years of reading through the Srimad Bhagavatam, Raghunath and Kaustubha have arrived at its most sacred passage — the Rāsa Līlā. The essence of the essence of the essence. Five chapters describing Krishna's circle dance with the gopis, considered the...

May 07, 202655 minEp. 1767

1766: When the Ego Steps Back | The Existential Sense of Being Blessed

"The gift of gratitude. In order to feel it, your ego has to take a backseat." A shift that happens when the ego stops driving. In this episode Raghunath and Kaustubha explore how gratitude isn't just an etiquette — it's a marker of spiritual depth and the default setting of the self. When the false ego dissolves, the rising of gratitude appears as a natural effect of the soul understanding itself correctly in relation with God. The conversation then moves into fascinating territory — exploring ...

May 06, 202653 minEp. 1766

1765: Robert De Niro, Vedanta and the Art of Being Chill

"Just be calm. When things are going well, be calm. Don't think you're on top of the world. Everybody is dispensable." The Bhagavad-gita calls it samathvam. Robert De Niro calls it being chill. Evenness of mind, steady in both the highs and the lows. Fame, wealth, prestige — they come and they go. And when that truth settles not just as a concept but as a genuine inner recognition, something shifts. Detachment arises — not as resignation, not as indifference, but as the fertile ground in which d...

May 05, 202657 minEp. 1759

1764: Speaking Truth to Power with Love

On the appearance day of the fascinating Avatar Narasimha — the ferocious half-man, half-lion form of Krishna — Raghunath and Kaustubha explore the life and teachings of his most celebrated devotee, Sri Prahlad, the child saint who spoke truth to power without apology, yet never bore animosity toward the person trying to destroy him. His core teaching, drawn from the Srimad Bhagavatam, is more relevant than ever: except for the uncontrolled and misguided mind, there is no enemy in this world. Th...

Apr 30, 202654 minEp. 1764

1763: Let Go But Don't Give Up | Bhakti, Business and the Art of Surrender

After twenty years of living in an ashram, Divya Alter opened a restaurant — and her spiritual practice tested new ways and taken to a whole new level. Divya — Ayurvedic chef, Sanskrit scholar, and founder of New York City's beloved Divya's Kitchen — discovered that separating her spiritual life from her business life created nothing but internal war. The moment she saw the restaurant as her devotional service, everything shifted. Raghunath and Kaustubha sit with Divya for a conversation about w...

Apr 29, 202656 minEp. 1763

1762: No Pride Allowed | Muhammad Ali on the Hereafter

"If you've got one ounce of pride, you can't enter the hereafter." From the man who called himself the greatest, that statement lands differently. Ali understood something that took a lifetime to learn — that the gifts we're given are on loan, not owned. The strength, the beauty, the wit, the fame. None of it is ours. And the moment we claim it as ours, we cut ourselves off from the very source it came from. Raghunath and Kaustubha explore that teaching alongside one of the most tender moments i...

Apr 28, 202658 minEp. 1762

1761: Dethroning the Ego | The Existential Apology

An apology can be the turning point on a spiritual path. Through apology the ego is gently dethroned. And strangely, we feel not smaller — but freer. That insight sits at the heart of this episode, where Raghunath shares an excerpt from his upcoming book, The Six Pillars of Bhakti, on why apologizing is one of the non-negotiables of spiritual life. The longer we delay, the more the ego rewrites the story — softening our role, magnifying theirs, reframing events until we are no longer the person ...

Apr 23, 202653 minEp. 1761

1760: Our Challenges Are Here to Reform Us

What's standing between us and our genuine happiness isn't our circumstances, it's our false pride. Bhakti Yoga has a radical insight into this — and that the difficult moments of our lives, the humiliations, the losses, the things that knock us off our pedestal, are not punishments. They are invitations to let go of the false sense of self that was blocking us from what we actually want. In this episode Raghunath and Kaustubha explore that teaching through a stunning passage in the Srimad Bhaga...

Apr 22, 20261 hr 1 minEp. 1760

1759: Human Potential and The Fire of Knowledge

A thousand grams of iron is worth about $100. Make it into sewing needles and it's worth $70,000. Turn it into precision laser components and it's worth $15 million. Same iron. Completely different value. The question this episode keeps returning to is simple and urgent: what are you going to make of this rare human life? Your raw material isn't the whole story. It never was. Raghunath and Kaustubha explore that insight alongside one of the most transformative teachings in the Bhagavad Gita's fo...

Apr 21, 202657 minEp. 1759

1758: The Joy of Being an Instrument | Bhakti and Creative Flow

The best thing you ever created — you probably didn't create it. Bob Dylan said he could never write a song like Blowin' in the Wind again. Marvin Gaye told Smokey Robinson that What's Going On wasn't his — it came through him. Every great artist eventually arrives at the same humbling, liberating realization: the music doesn't come from you. It comes through you. The Bhagavad Gita names this directly — Krishna says from him comes knowledge, remembrance, and forgetfulness. Whatever ability we ha...

Apr 15, 20261 hr 2 minEp. 1758

1757: Staycation | Marcus Aurelius, Bhagavad-gita and the Peace Within

You can pack your bags, book the flight, and still bring every anxious thought with you. Emperor Marcus Aurelius writes in his Meditations that escaping to the country, the beach, or the mountains is idiotic. The peace you're looking for is already available, anytime, by going within. The Bhagavad Gita's fifth chapter speaks of how the self-realized person enjoys unlimited happiness not because their circumstances changed, but because their direction did. Raghunath and Kaustubha explore that tea...

Apr 14, 202656 minEp. 1757

1756: A Divine Light Struggling Inside This Flesh Machine

Underneath every arrogant person is a frightened one. That's the insight Desmond Tutu — Nobel Peace Prize winner and moral architect of post-apartheid South Africa — pointed us toward: arrogance doesn't come from too much self-love. It comes from too little self-knowledge. It's the mask we wear when we can't bear to feel small. And the pendulum swings — from "I am the greatest" to "I am worthless" — and back again. Neither is true. In this episode Raghunath returns from a week working with a rec...

Apr 13, 20261 hrEp. 1756

1755: Krishna Doesn't Punish. He Liberates.

False pride might be the one thing standing between you and genuine happiness. We protect it, defend it, build our identity around it — and all the while it's quietly keeping us from the love, the freedom, and the ecstasy we're actually looking for. In the Govardhan Lila of the Srimad Bhagavatam, an ancient Sanskrit text on consciousness and devotion, Krishna shuts down the worship of Indra — not out of rivalry, not out of anger, but because he loves Indra too much to keep enabling what's keepin...

Apr 10, 202657 minEp. 1755

1754: You're Not Unlucky. You're Unexamined. | Karma and Carl Jung

The unexamined stuff in us — today — is shaping our external experiences tomorrow. We might think of karma like a cosmic scorekeeper out there keeping tabs on us. Like the universe is going to get us back eventually. But Carl Jung saw something more insightful: your inner life doesn't stay inner. Whatever you haven't faced, whatever you haven't worked through — it leaks out and becomes your circumstances. It becomes the people who drive you crazy. It becomes the problems that just seem to follow...

Apr 08, 20261 hrEp. 1754

1753: A Better Metric for Loving God

You can check every box of religious life and still be miles from God. The real spiritual metric is simpler — and much harder. Raghunath and Kaustubha open with a passage from Fyodor Dostoevsky's The Brothers Karamazov — the dying words of the monk Father Zosima: love everything, love everyone, even in their sin, and you will perceive the divine mystery in all things. It's a vision shared across traditions — by Tolstoy, Martin Luther King, Black Elk, and Jesus himself, who loved those who were c...

Apr 06, 202656 minEp. 1753

1752: Why Your Spiritual Checklist Might Be Working Against You

In this episode Raghunath and Kaustubha ask a question that cuts to the heart of any serious spiritual practice: is my practice actually changing me. Goodhart's Law states that when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure. The classic example: British colonial officials in India offered a bounty on cobra skins to reduce the cobra population, only to find that enterprising citizens began breeding cobras to collect the bounties. The measure designed to solve the problem made it ...

Apr 02, 202653 minEp. 1752

1751: The Cosmic Authority Problem | A Prominent Atheist Admits His Fear of God

Nobody wants a boss — and according to a prominent atheist philosopher, that's exactly the problem. Thomas Nagel, professor of philosophy at New York University and one of the most respected philosophers of the 20th and 21st centuries, made a startling admission: "I want atheism to be true" — not because the evidence demands it, but because the idea of God makes him uneasy. In this episode Raghunath and Kaustubha unpack what Nagel called the "cosmic authority problem" — the deeply human tendency...

Apr 01, 20261 hr 5 minEp. 1751

1750: The Distracted Mind | Obstacle or Opportunity?

Every time your mind wanders during meditation is a great opportunity. The wandering mind can be exactly where the real yoga begins. In this episode Raghunath welcomes back Kaustubha, fresh off a pilgrimage to Vrindavan, India — unpacking his bags and his insights in equal measure, starting with a nugget from William James, the father of American psychology. James called it the very root of character, will, and judgment: the ability to bring back wandering attention, over and over again. The Bha...

Mar 31, 20261 hr 2 minEp. 1750

1749: The Ritual Trap | Krishna & Real Devotion

This conversation explores a timeless tension in spiritual practice: rules that serve love, and rules that replace it. On this Ram Navami episode, Raghunath reflects on Lord Ram's appearance and follows that thread into a deeper exploration of Bhakti Yoga, Krishna, and the essence of spiritual wisdom. Drawing from the Srimad Bhagavatam and the story of the wives of the brāhmaṇas — the wives of Vedic priests whose devotion to Krishna transcended ritual formalism — the episode uncovers how true de...

Mar 27, 202659 minEp. 1749

1748: Do We Really Need Someone to Complete Us?

When worldly identities fade and external things lose their shine, Vedic wisdom points us back to what is steady—our relationship with Krishna and the deeper level of consciousness. In this episode of the Wisdom of the Sages podcast, through humor, honesty, and spiritual wisdom, Raghunath and Kaustubha explore how Bhakti Yoga transforms the heart, how relationships become healthier when centered on purpose, and how devotion gives meaning to every season of life—even as everything else changes. D...

Mar 25, 202654 minEp. 1748

1747: The Many Faces of Priests and Beggars — Lessons from India's Holy Places

Bhakti Yoga shines a light on a simple but revealing truth: not all priests are equal, and not all beggars are the same—their consciousness shapes everything. In this episode, Raghunath and Kaustubha share decades of experience traveling through India's holy places, offering humorous and insightful stories of spiritual teachers, temple priests, pilgrims, and street encounters that reveal how devotion actually lives in the real world. Some uplift, some obstruct, and some surprise you entirely. Be...

Mar 25, 20261 hr 9 minEp. 1747

1746: When Religious Externals Kill Spiritual Life

When the externals of spiritual practice become the focus, we can forget what they were meant to uncover—becoming religious while losing touch with the spiritual. In this episode, a powerful insight from Albert Einstein leads into a deep exploration of Bhakti Yoga, Vedic wisdom, and the nature of consciousness. Through a story from the Srimad Bhagavatam, the contrast between the ritualistic brāhmaṇas (priests) and their wives reveals a timeless truth: while the learned can miss Krishna through a...

Mar 20, 202650 minEp. 1746

1745: Every Desire Is a Search for Divine Love

Bhakti Yoga and Vedic wisdom uncover a profound insight: every human desire—even those that seem misguided—is ultimately a search for Krishna and the soul's lost connection with divine love. Beginning with a striking quote about misplaced longing, this episode explores how all pursuits—whether through relationships, success, or even darker paths—reflect a deeper hunger for meaning, connection, and fulfillment. Drawing from the Srimad Bhagavatam, Raghunath and Kaustubha explain how spiritual wisd...

Mar 19, 202657 minEp. 1745

1744: The Quiet Hum of Mortality in the Back of Our Minds

We try to avoid thinking about death. We push it into the background of our minds. But beneath the surface of our thoughts there is a quiet "hum" of mortality creating an undercurrent of anxiety. In this episode of Wisdom of the Sages, a deeply personal reflection on aging, grief, and mortality opens into a powerful exploration of spiritual philosophy. Raghunath and Kaustubha explain that the only way to quiet that hum is not by ignoring it, but by confronting it with truth — truth about the nat...

Mar 17, 20261 hr 27 minEp. 1744
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