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listen live. We are joined now by the President of the United States, Donald Trump, Mr President, thanks for starting your morning with us. We're excited to have you. Well, thank you very much, Clay. It's an honor. You have a great show. Well, I appreciate that. Now. I know you're a long time sports fan. So there's a lot of things I want to get into with you, but I want to start. You've been a big supporter of

Tom Brady for a very long time. What were your thoughts when he decided to move to Tampa Bay And what do you think he's going to be capable of down there? Will you be rooting for him? Well, I think he's going to do a great job. You know, he's a winner. He knows how to win. That's a big thing. And he's just been a great quarterback with a great coach. It's a great combination and a great owner in Bob Kraft. Frankly, and he probably wanted to change.

He wanted to change, and I think, you know, he had plenty of teams to go to, and then he picked one with from what I understand, a good offensive line and very good receivers. He looked at that closely. I think he probably had other choices where they had players. I think his biggest thing is he wants to win. And from what I know, and I know the ownership of the team, they'll do whatever they have to because they're fantastic people, the owners of the team at the

Tom's own now and uh. I think he's going to do well in Tampa Bay. I think he'll do well. I think he'll I don't know why it would be a surprise, but perhaps it will be. But I think he's going to surprise a lot of people. I think he's going to do great. We're talking to the President of the United States, Donald Trump, Mr President, What do you hear about the NFL. I know there's been a lot of talk. You mentioned that you talked to several

different owners, Bob Kraft in particular. How confident are you that come September ten, with the schedule the opener between the Texans and the Chiefs, that the NFL will be underway and everybody out there who's an NFL fan will be able to watch. Well. They want to open, and they want to open badly, and they've been working with government.

I would say this, if they don't stand for the national anthem, I hope they don't open but other than that, I'd love to see the open and we're doing everything possible for getting them open. And they can protest in other ways. They shouldn't protest our flag or our country. Have you talked have you talked with owners about your hope that they're going to stand for the national anthem? The players, Uh, they know my they know my my feelings very well. They've been expressed. I think it's been

horrible for basketball. Look at the basketball writings that down down to very low numbers, very very low. People are angry about it. They don't realize that they don't want They have enough politics with guys like me, they don't need more. As they're driving down going up for the shot, you know, they don't need it. And there was a nastiness about the NBA the way it was done too. So I think that they the NBA is in trouble. I think it's in big trouble, bigger trouble that they understand.

And frankly, ice hockey, which is doing very well, they didn't do that. They respected the more as they respected what they're supposed to be doing, and they're actually doing very well. As I understand it, I don't have much time to be watching this stuff. Just so you understand, it's just what I'm reading and what I'm seeing. But I saw he was with respect. I did not like what baseball did even a little bit. And again, you have to stand for your flag, and you have to

respect your flag and your country. You're making millions of dollars a year to be playing the sport you'd be playing anyway. If you didn't make they'd be playing it on the weekends. And they got to They have to respect their country. And if they don't, frankly, if the NFL didn't open, I'd be very happy. If they don't stand for the flag and stand strongly, I would be very happy if they didn't open with without that. And with that being said, i'd love to see them open.

We're talking to Donald Trump, the President of the United States, and President Trump. When you look at the n b A and you just reference the n b A and all of the political statements that they're making, it seems like every time you send a tweet, a executive, a coach, a player, somebody will come out and immediately fire back at you. But yet the NBA is taking billions of

dollars from China. There are all sorts of human rights violations going on in China right now, and none of the players and none of the coaches will say a word about that. Does it feel hypocritical that they will rip the United States, they won't stand for the anthem, they'll rip you as the president, but they won't say a negative word about China at all. Well, I haven't noticed them sending things back at me, but I will

say that, you know, I wouldn't be that surprised. Some are very nasty, very very nasty, and frankly, very dumb. But I haven't noticed that. But I will say this, the way they the way they catered to China, the way they bowed to China, it's a disgrace, frankly. And they make a lot more money here than they do from China. But we have a system that allows you to disrespect your system. And that's uh. Too bad for them, Too bad for them. They don't appreciate what they have here.

But no that what they did with China, and what China did to us with the with the China virus, and and the rest of the world, by the way, you know, I mean the whole rest of the world. They stopped it from going in and spreading in China, but they didn't stop it from spreading in the US and in other parts of the world, including Europe, but other parts in the world countries. So Uh, I watched that whole thing with the general manager of the team

was at Houston. Yeah, Darryl Moore, the general manager who said that he wanted to free Hong Kong. And speaking of Hong Kong right now, you've got I see the front page of the Wall Street Journal. The China went in and arrested a ton of pro democracy media members, uh, including Jimmy Lai, I believe, who was one of the most active participants in all of the Hong Kong democracy movement.

For people out there who aren't paying attention, why should Americans care about what China is doing in in Hong Kong and maybe the threats to Taiwan as well well. Look, for years, Hong Kong was making a lot of money that we could have been made, that we could have been making in the New York Stock Exchange and our great exchanges. You know, we have the biggest exchanges. We have the Great Dollar, the dollar, which I've made stronger,

much stronger, than it used to be. I hope people recognize that in the world of sports, our country is in good shape and we're coming back so strong. It's incredible when you look at the numbers that we're producing and putting up. We're coming back very strong. And we say millions and millions of lives by closing down and restarting. But I will say that with Hong Kong, we gave tremendous incentives and costs us a fortune to keep Hong Kong viable and going. And now what we've done, I've

ended everything. I've ended all of that. There's no incentive whatsoever. We're not sending money through incentives back to Hong Kong. We're gonna make a lot more money because they're not going to be competitive. It won't be a competitive market, can't be with the government running it, so they're going to have a different kind of a deal. And we're not participating from the standpoint of we're not we're not spending you know, billions of dollars on making life comfortable

with them for freedom. And that was okay, we do that if they were free, but they're not free. You know, it's a part, it's a part when you look, I mean, take a look at a map. It's attached to China. You know. So it's a little bit tough from certain standpoints, but we will do very well by not having a good competitor. I guess it'll be a competitor, but on

a much smoiler scale. I know you have a good relationship with Chairman z over in China, but you mentioned the China virus, the virus that is obviously swept around the nation. You mentioned Hong Kong and the challenge to democracy there. Do you feel a bit disappointed in your friend Chairman z and how he has responded with China with the virus and also with Hong Kong. Well, I used to have a very good relationship with him. We made a trade deal. It was a great deal for us,

you know. To look, China's ripped off our country for thirty years, like nobody ever, Nobody's ever done anything like what I've done, And we had a bunch of people sitting in the office that I'm in now that allowed it to happen. We're losing we were losing five hundred billion, six hundred billion, billion, not million billion dollars a year in trade with China. The deficit was massive, probably averaged two or three hundred billion dollars. Over many years, we

we helped rebuild China. Look, if it wasn't for us, they wouldn't have China as you know it today. We gave so much money so stupidly. How these people allowed it to happen. And I came in and I charged him tariffs and even more than that. And but I had a great relationship with presidents she I like them, But I don't feel the same way now. I've you know, every once in a while you will say, and you've had it, You've had it very well and play. I understand.

I know you indirectly. I know you, and you have your likes and dislikes very strongly. So do I. But I didn't like what what took place. This is not trade this is this is a thousand times the trade deal. What happened with all of the death and all of the world, I mean, the world had to shut down. It's a disgrace what happened. You look at some of these countries in Europe, which is devastated. Look at what's going on in Africa with this horrible disease. So you know,

I certainly feel I certainly feel differently. I had a very very good relationship and I haven't spoken to him in a long time. It's a different it's a much different. We have a much different relationship with China now than we did for years where they ripped us off and then I stopped that. They were having the worst year they had in sixty seven years because I charged them tariffs and we're making a lot of money. I was giving a lot of money to farmers. They were targeted.

They were targeting farmers. I gave twenty eight billion dollars, that was the amount, and it came all out of China, and the farmers are doing great because of it. Otherwise they would have been all out of business. But you know, I treated them as you would do it. But I still had a good relationship. But once the once the plague came in from China, I go at the plague. But once the plague came in from China, the relationship changed, no question about it. It It would be it would be

hard to believe that it wouldn't change. We're talking to the President of the United States, Donald Trump, Mr President, much less serious in terms of the plague. Although the virus is impacting many different parts of sports in America, including potentially college football. I know you're a big college football fan. You went to the L. S U Alabama game this past year, Joe Burrow against two of talking

about low a great game. You went to the national title game where Clemson played against L. S U. Why is it important for college football to be played and what do you think you can do to help that happen. Well, first of all, those those people, the people in that sport, it's just like incredible people. And you know, like some of the coaches like Nick Saban and coach Oh, how about coach O. He's amazing, he's central casting. Right, you're doing a football movie. You got to pick him as

you coach, right, and did put him in the movie? Uh? And Lou Holtz is just a fantastic guy, a friend of mine who has been a supporter from the beginning. And you know, just just so many others. They're they're just great people and they want to play football and

they know better than anyone else. The other thing is that somebody who's explaining I had actually a great one of the great doctors said, these people are so powerful and so strong, not lots of body fat, although you could take a couple of offensive alignemen perhaps and dispute that, but not a lot of body fat. Maybe none in some cases, you know, and they're very healthy people. They you know, people don't realize it's a tiny percentage of

people that that get sick and uh, they're old. It just attacks old people, especially old people with bad heart diabetes or some kind of a physical problem, a weight problem. Is there wonderful that I'm of a perfect perfect physic osfestim and so great? Right, that's right? I was zero percent. Didn't have zero per somebody? Somebody said zero percent body fat? Wouldn't that be nice? But no, But this attacks older people very viciously, by the way it can be if

it's the wrong person. But you know, these football players are very young, strong people and physically, I mean the physically an extraordinary shape. So they're not going to have a problem. You're not going to see people, you know, couldn't it be? Could it happened? But I doubt it. You're not going to see people dying. And many people get it, and they have like kids, they get it. They have the sniffles young kids. Almost none you have

a serious problem with it. I mean literally, you look, I think I said, the state of California, almost nobody that's young had a like zero had a problem with meaning a serious problem with this disease. I mean, they get better very quickly, if they get it at all. So I think football's making a tragic mistake. And you know, it's interesting when it opens. When I went to that game, it was incredible. I went to a couple of them, and I never really did the big time college football.

I went to an ivy League school, it wasn't quite the same. But when I went to Alabama and I went to L s U. And you know, these stadiums are massive. You have no idea about that. There's much bigger crowds in the NFL. You know, in the NFL you have sixty and here we had I think a hundred and fifteen thousand people. And you go to see these games and it's it's it's brilliant football. It's great football. It's the atmosphere. There's nothing like it. And you can't

have empty seats. You know, if I had five empty seats, for instance, they said, when I do a rally, sir, the reason I won't do them, because you can't have one seat and then seven around that seat, sir, have to be empty. Oh that'll look great. You know, you have one person and everything's very empty around them. You can't do that. Uh, And I don't think. I'm not sure that college football can do it. But we'll have

to see, you know, some sports I see. I think golf has not been hurt visually by In fact, I think golf looks more beautiful if you want to know the truth, you know, instead of a lot of people. You know, the cheering is good, and certainly I guess the income is good and all. But golf works. You know what works as UFC works very well. UFC. I watched that the other night, and they light up the stage, they light up the cage and it's, you know, really bright.

They darken the arena, maybe put a little silk around it. Who knows, But that works, and other sports don't work. Basketball is not working. I think basketball is not working because of the way they treated our flag and our anthem. If you want another truth, but it doesn't seem to have anything. And I just I looked at it and I couldn't watch it. And baseball I haven't I haven't made a ruling on that yet. In terms of my own I haven't had much of a chance to watch it.

But some sports are working okay and some sports aren't. But I thought golf look really good for the p g A. I didn't miss the fans, and I think that, uh probably UFC was a very good one. I am not impressed. Somebody tell me hockey works okay, and but those sports are meant more for fans. I really believe that. I think they meant more for spans. I think basketball is going to need its fans back. From what I'm saying, it looks very dull. I know. I know you're ready

for the economy to be back rolling in. Sports are a big part of that, and schools opening are also a big part of that. I'm gonna ask you about both. But I also wonder do you ever think to yourself, I should play a trick on the media and say the exact opposite of what I actually believe so they'll support it. Because it seems like every time you come out like you say schools should open, and the media

immediately says, oh, schools can open. But if you had said, hey, we can't open schools I feel like the media would have said, oh, we gotta open schools. The president's crazy. Do you ever think about that because they talk about it all the time. Nobody else does. I say, Look, I could have had the wall built very easy. You know, we're building a wall. But it was getting it like

was pulling teeth, and the Democrats opposed, etcetera, etcetera. Like you know, you watched that, and now it's being built up to two and fifties, two hundred and seventy seven miles. It will be done by the end of the year, a little bit after the end of the year. It's incredible the impact it said. Anyway, if I would have said I don't want a wall, they would have given it to immediately. If I this hydroxychloroquine, A lot of doctors swear by it, by my saying it's good. I

took it for two weeks. You know, there's a little outbreak around Washington, and I said, let me have something. And I took it for two weeks and it was fine. You know, it was great. I didn't have it, I didn't get it, and I had no problem whatsoever with it. You know, it's been around for a long time. It's a hilaria pill actually and lupus and it causes no problem. But as soon as I came out with it, they said, oh, it doesn't work, and they went crazy. They still are

on Twitter. It's number one all the time, which is phony. It's number one all the time and trending hydroxy you know, negative hydroxy stuff. If I would have said I don't believe in hydroxychloroque and it's terrible with zinc and with you know, the ZPEC is this remind said. If I would have said I don't believe in it, it doesn't work, it would be the hottest thing going right now. Uh No, No, I say it. I say it all the time. We could say it about a lot of different things, even religion.

I when I held the Bible in front of a church that the the agitators and anarchists, you know they call them protesters, they tried to burn down a church and I held a Bible up in front of the church, and they said it was a terrible thing I did so, I said, I even affect religion negatively, Okay. I hold the Bible in front of a church that they tried to burn down the day before, and they say, isn't

he a terrible human being? And I said, I've affected religion, hydroxy and just about anything else, maybe even your show after today, that will be the end. You've got these great ratings going. I see Clay, and you have the hell of your show. Maybe I will have destroyed your show. But you know the injuriesult Our country now is so sot.

Our military has been rebuilt, our taxes have been cut way back, and regulations and what I've done for the vets nobody's ever done, nobody has ever even come close to doing. And you know so many other things We've done more than anybody, including even space force right space. So we've done a lot. But we have to fight hard. Probably I have to fight harder than a lot of other people. Last question for you, because I know you've

got a ton of things to go. There's talk that Joe Biden is going to announce his vice president either today or tomorrow. It seems like it's dragged on for some time. Who do you think he's gonna pick? Who should he pick? I know you like playing the political game. You weren't a politician for a long time. If you were sitting back on your couch watching television and following this election, what do you think he's gonna do? What

do you think he should do? Well? I think that I would be inclined to go a different route than what he's done, you know, doing it the way he First of all, he roped himself into uh, you know, a certain group of people would he said he had to pick a woman. He said that, and you know, some people would say that men are insulted by that, and some people would say it's fine. I don't know, I will say this, people don't vote for the you know, this is history. This isn't necessarily mean this is history

because we have a great vice president. Mike Pence has been incredible. Actually he's been a great vice president and done a really really good job and everything I've given him. And but people don't vote for the vice president. They really don't. They don't vote for the vice president. Like you can pick George Washington to be your vice president. Let's pick up Abraham Lincoln coming back from the dead. They just don't seem to vote for the vice president.

Now in this case, you know, because Joe's got some some things going on. Let's not kid ourselves unless you I don't know where your politics are, but Joe's got some pretty big things going on, so you know, this is going to be a very very important pick, and it'll be interesting to see who he who he chooses. I'm interested to see. Also in the end, I don't think it's gonna matter. Joe's gonna have to stand in his zone two feet and we're doing very well. Our

poll numbers have really come up. You know, we got hit by We were unbeatable, and then we got hit by the China, by the China plague, by the China virus, and and obviously we got hit hard. And that affects a politician. You know, look at look all over the world. When you get hit it affects a politician. So we fought, and we've done a really good job with that and every other thing. And now the economy has come back so strong, and my poll numbers are are good. They're

getting very good. I think they're gonna go even much higher. People appreciate what we're doing. So I don't know who he's going to pick. In theory it doesn't matter much, but maybe with him it probably matters much more than it normally does. For the obvious reason. I know I said last question, and I hit you with a sports question on your way out. The number one debate among sports fans for the last ten years probably has been who is better as a basketball player, Michael Jordan's or

Lebron James. Which do you think no doubt in your mind? Well, I've seen him both. Michael Jordan's is plus he wasn't political, so people like him better. That is a perfect answer. Donald Trump, President Trump, I appreciate you coming on. You're happy to have welcome to come on any time to talk sports with us. Thank you for the time this morning, sir, and good luck the rest of your term and maybe the next one to thank you very much. Great, thank you.

Be sure to catch live editions about Kicked the Coverage with Clay Travis weekdays at six am Eastern three am Pacific. It's always fun to say, joined now by the President of the United States, Donald Trump. President Trump, appreciate you joining us. You're gonna be watching the US Open at all. Have you played winged Foot before? I'm actually a member of Wingfoot. That's pretty good any times. It's a great place.

What do you think, well, the score of the winner at the US Open, given how challenging those conditions are. Last time it was plus five. Do you think someone will go under par or do you think it will be as the players are so good and they're so deep, so you would think so it was one of the higher scores. I guess that's right. It was plus five, which you don't see anymore. So let's see, I mean between the players and technology and everything else. But Wingfoot

is great and the rough is very tough looking. If they hit the fairway, they'll be okay. If they don't, they're gonna be in big trouble. But it's gonna be a great open. What's the best store you ever had in around? You? Remember there? What's the best you've ever done? And Wingfoot, I'd say low seventies quite a bit. Low seventies would be what I what I've been remember there a long time and I could I could get it. I could do pretty well. But it's but it is

just a great It's a great place. It's a wonderful place. I've I've enjoyed it for a long time. You've played with a lot of the top golfers in the world. Many of them will be playing at wingfoot. What's one of the most fun rounds you've had with the Tiger Woods or Rory McElroy And what's that experience like getting to play with a top golfer as a president. Well, the experience is terrible because you realize how bad you are.

You know, there there is a big difference. I mean, you can be a good golfer and when you play with these top people, even anybody on tour. I always say, if there's anybody on tour, even somebody that you've never never heard of, I have a little expression. You know, the first team always take the tour player always because they're really good and they're they're better. You know, it's very hard to get on tour. It's very hard to stay on tour. So if you have the option, always

take play the tour player. You'll very rarely do badly. I found that over the years. You've played a lot of golf over the years. But you know, I'm not very good. I'm an awful golfer. But every now and then you have a good round going and somebody sees you and like they pull you up and they say, hey, you can play through, And you know, you get nervous because you're like, if you get called up to get played through, you don't want to shank one. You don't

want to hit a bad shot. When you're playing with the Tiger Woods or Rory McElroy, even as often as you have played, do you get nervous in the tea box team off with them? Yeah, I think a little bit. But know you're always a little bit nervous when you're in something that depends. I think the most nervous you get in golf is when you play in the club championships. That's our major, okay, I club you know, without strokes or anything, when you're playing in the club championship. To me,

I think that's the most. I have friends that are very very good golfers, scratch players, and they almost can't play in the club championship. They don't play well and they just can't do it. It's the pressure, and I have I've had a lot of a lot of friends that just can't do it. I think that's our that's our major, right, and that's like a big deal. But you certainly get a little nervous. I play with Tiger

a lot. Actually, he's a great guy, really a great guy, and it was amazing that he won the Master so recently, and you know, to me, it was one of the great achievements. But he's he's a wonderful person. Actually people don't know him. Uh, They're all good. You know. It's interesting when I play with golfers, I find them all to be very high quality. That's very rarely play with a tour player or something that that you don't like.

I just find very nicely. Now nice Now you know they're playing with the president, so perhaps they're in good behavior. I don't know, but but this was before I became president. I just find golfers to be a very high quality group of people. You ever, I've played a few pro ams and you know, they announced your name, and you come up and you take a practice swing and there's people lined up, and I always think, I just don't want to kill someone, you know, by shanking one with

people lined up really close to you. You ever hit somebody and have to sign a golf you know, like they always signed the golf gloves, you know, if you hit somebody down there. You ever had a bad pro am experience. I've had bad experiences, but not hitting people bad because I'll play badly or something, but not for hitting people. Proms are okay because usually you have three or four amateurs and the pro and there's always somebody to lips you up right if you're not playing well.

But but pro ams are great. There are a lot of fun. But no, gerald Ford was famous for hitting people, right. That's right, that's exactly. Don't know what happened. He would always every time he played, he had a he had a propensity for seeing to do He's actually a good athlete. I don't know if he was a good golfer, but he was a very good athlete. But he had a

tendency to do that. It's an easy transition there because gerald Ford was a huge University of Michigan fan, Like he would have them play Hell to the Victors I think instead of Hell to the Chief a lot of times when he would walk around because he was such a big Wolverine fan. You have been instrumental and your administration has been instrumental in helping to get big ten football back. Tell me about your call with Karen Kevin Warren, what the experience was like to help to make what

became yesterday a reality. All these kids, all these schools, all these athletes, not just football, a lot of people not talking about it, but fall sports in the big ten back and able to now play. How proud of you are of that accomplishment and what went into it? Well, I'm really proud of it because it was dead, it was totally dead. And I told my people, look, we got a call. I say, who am I going to call?

Who's the head of it? And was Kevin Warren who who really turned out to be very open about it. And I said, Kevin, look, we'll help you with testing, will help you, will get you everything that you need, but you've got to get it back for those states. Those states wanted. They're real football states, as you can understand, and you know, great teams and very unfair to players. It may be their last chance to show their you know, their skills to the NFL, and so they wouldn't get that.

And I'll tell you a group of people came together so fast once we started it because they they sort of gave up, although I will tell you didn't give up. The parents didn't give up, and the players didn't give up. They just wanted to play and enough with this stuff. And I called Kevin. He was open to it. We started talking real fast and hard and they ended up it culminated and getting it done. And we we have somebody Tim Pataki, who did a really fantastic job, a

young guy who works at the White House. He did a great job. He really did that full time. Now we're gonna work on pack twelve. I mean, there's no reason why they shouldn't be but now they're the only ones are just about and they should be playing. Now maybe you can't, I don't know. I mean, maybe you can't at this point. It's getting a little bit late, but they should be playing football. It's ridiculous. They may have a problem with their venues, who knows, you know,

and some of them have a problem with governors. The governors had to come together and we had some governors that our Democrats and it wasn't easy, but we got it. We got it done, and you've got you can have some great football, big ten football. It's it's really terrific. We're talking to the President of the United States, Donald Trump, and I know based on my background interacting with him. Tim Pataki did an incredible job. Who you just gave

a shout out. He's an Ohio State grad over three d calls because some people out there, you know how it goes, and the media are going to say, oh, the White House had nothing to do with this, They had no impact. You guys were very helpful and impactful in making this a reality. I know that personally, but certainly the evidence reflects how hard Tim Pattack he worked

and other members of your administration. And I understand now there has been contact between the White House and the Pack twelve to also offer the same amount of help. If the Pack twelve needs any assistance in order to be able to play this fall, well they I can tell you Big ten just needed some confidence in it and some backing. But we really were given a lot of backing. No without us. I'm not saying this for any reason. It was a terrible thing. You know. We

did it that, We absolutely did it. If we didn't get involved, you wouldn't even be talking about Big ten right now. They had no chance of playing. They weren't going to play. And as soon as we did it for political reasons, a couple of people said, oh, they had nothing to do with it. They had nothing to do. And I'll tell you when I don't have something to do, sometimes they get credit for something I shouldn't. In all fairness,

that's okay too, I'll take it. But in this case, we we I mean Tim and his whole group and and me meant a lot of calls to a lot of people to get this thing done. And sort of sad when you do something and then you have a Democrat or you know, opponents saying well, they had nothing to do, and they know it's not true. We got it going, we got it started. We were able to show him the different testings, and they knew a lot about the testing anyway, but they just decided to go closed.

And it was just not a good decision. And and Kevin Warrent did a fantastic job, by the way, gave a lot of credit. He got out and he just they just did a big reversal. And it's hard to do a reversal. You know, you make a decision and now you have to say the decision we're going to change. So it's it's really a hard thing to do. But Kevin was fantastic and some of the people we worked with were great. But no, we got that one open, and we're gonna try and we're gonna see what we

can do. I hear there's a little flexibility in fact wealth. So I don't want to get people's hopes up too high, but there's a little bit of flexibility that we'll see if we can do it. When you look at the decisions that are being made in general, like Joe Biden ran television advertisements blaming you, I think it was in Michigan, Wisconsin, UH,

in Pennsylvania for their not being big ten football. Do you think that he will apologize now that you've helped to make big ten football reality, maybe start running ads praising you. Well, they did worse as they did. Work adds that I said horrible things about UH soldiers who had died, and that turned out to be a totally false story. It was made up. It's called disinformation if you know what that is in the sports world. They

made up a lie and they went with it. It's a disgusting that was worse, but you know with and that was just a terrible thing to do. That's a real there's a real low lass. That's why I take off the gloves because you know, Joe is not equipped mentally equipped to be president. That I can tell you right now. He wasn't twenty five years ago. But you know, I think I can take the gloves of because when they did that, but they also did it in football.

I hear somebody says it's too bad about football, though, what do you like football? So sure I do why they're taking adds in very important states, you know when you when you're talking about the states you mentioned are very important states, big powerful swing states. And he's taken adds that it's your fault that that Big ten isn't opened. I said, you gotta be kidding. And I put very light pressure on Big ten even before I started this heavy preyer yourself, and I said, you gotta be kidding.

I got a hold of the ad and I said, what a lie. It's just a lie, and they do it was a lie. They made it up. They make up stores the worst campaign, most of this honest campaign I've ever seen. And the ballots sending what do you see that these unsolicited ballots? What do you see the mess that they want? They wanted to be a mess.

It's the only way they're gonna win. It's the only way they can win is to cheat, in my opinion, So that sounds that sounds See, football is a much nicer a much more genteel sport than politics, I can tell you, but I really believe that they want to do that. I know they want to do they want to make it a mess. But what happened. I saw the ad and that's actually what got me into gear because I said, oh, edny minute, I wanted to happen,

but I really didn't think about getting involved. When I saw the end, I said, let's get involved to get it open. So that add is one of the reasons I got it open, because I just wanted to show that this was that was such a dirty thing to do. And uh, when everyone I was publicly record, as you know, Clay saying, you know you guys want to get to play and it, but you said it on my show. That's why who doesn't even pay much attention to politics?

She said, wait a minute. The president came on your show last month before the big ten in the Pack twelve shut down. Instead, it would be a tragic mistake if they didn't play, and then they blamed you for the for the games not being played. Absolutely, it's a hud. And tell your wife I appreciate her good memory because some people don't remember so well. Your wife has the memory. You probably don't remember it, and she does and so your marriage, yeah, you know how marriage goes. She remembers

everything I've ever done. It's not perfect, but it was such a bad it was so egregious and it was terrible. And because of that, I actually activated and and we got it done. So I'm very happy. A lot of people are really happy about it. I was gonna tell you this last time when you came on, but you came on in August and my nine year old son when I said, hey, you know, the President is going to come on Dad's radio show. I swear to god President Trump, the first thing he said was, wow, he

knows Vince mcmah And that was his reaction. When the president is going to come on the radio show. He's such a w W E fan and his first reaction, you know, yeah, you can share that with Vince. That the first thought from my nine year old Um when you when you look you you mentioned Joe Biden in the debate over Big ten football and everything else. How excited are you? It's like a big sporting event for many people. On September twenty nine, when the first debate happens,

are you prepping how do you get ready? It's almost like a sporting event, right, debate is considered in many schools to be a sport. How do you prep who's playing the role of Joe Biden in the White House? What's that experience like, And how's it different to be prepping as a president as opposed to a contender when you were doing it last time against Hillary. Well, I

think in many ways it could be easier. But they'll make up stories like they did about Big ten and other things, and you know, they can hit you with different kinds of things. But we've done oh well, I mean until this pandemic came, and we had the greatest economy in the history of our country, and now we're building it back to a point where we're gonna have it again. All the states that you just mentioned had the best economy they've ever had last year, and now

it's heading back to that again. You know, the stock markets doing great, a lot of things are doing great, and we're and we have vaccines coming very shortly. I mean literally in a matter of weeks, we're gonna have vaccines coming. So I really think that, uh, I think I think it would be a little bit easier I think I can't tell you who's going to show up with Joe because i've seen him where he's grossly incompetent that i've seen seen him where he's sort of normal.

Like against Bernie, he debated normally. I don't know what he did, but he debated normally. But I've watched some of the other debates where he had the large number of Democrats, and I mean, he couldn't he couldn't put three words together. It was terrible. So I don't know, you know, I don't know who's going to show up, do you. I saw what you said you would show up for Joe Rogan if he did a he suggested a four hour debate between you and Joe Biden. How do you think it would go if Joe Biden and

you showed up for a four hour debate with Joe Rogan. Well, it was sort of done in jest at all, but I would. I mean, I think it's good. I think Joe has to be exposed and we'll see. Look with me, you know what you have, and we've done incredible deals with the even Big ten. I got Big ten. No

other president would have gotten involved in that. As an example, there's no other president play that would have you understand that they would have Can you imagine Obama wouldn't have done it, just wouldn't have done it, and it just is not in the makeup and they can you imagine Biden doing it. He's a low energy person. I used to call Jeb Bush low energy, but I mean, if you compare the two, Jeb is extraordinarily energetic compared to sleepy Joe. So you know, I mean, Joe is not

going to be doing that kind of stuff. And it's sort of fun because you know, I have this platform, and it's it's sort of easy to do when you have we have this great platform. You're president of the United States. We hear that football all over these incredible states and all of the people that are affected by it, everybody, even in the stands of people that work their stands, everybody, so many people, so many jobs, so many everything. And you have this platform and you go out and you

use it and you use it for good. But I don't think a lot of people would do that, And I think a lot of people, if they did it, they wouldn't know how to do it. I think you're right, and it's it's crazy to me that you get criticized for getting football back, right. I mean, like some of the media out there, they're upset because you got it back. And this goes to my mom. I mentioned my my wife earlier, but she said, hey, make sure you tell the president this for me. So she's a big supporter.

Um and uh. And she said the other day, you know if President Trump went out on a boat, uh and uh. And you know, somebody's hat blew off, and he stepped out of the boat, walked on water and picked up the hat and brought it back to the to the fisherman. Uh. The New York Times front page would say that Trump can't swim. So, you know, it's funny kind of the way sometimes the media plays like you bring football back and are mad about it. Well, I'll tell you I have. The vaccine is way ahead

of schedule. And now I'm being criticized on the vaccine because they're petrified that the vaccine comes in, you know, before the election. And I view it differently. I view it like, we're gonna save lives. It's you know, I think it's gonna be a great vaccine and we're going to save lives. Many great companies really close and probably have it, and they're in tests right now. But I'm

being criticized for bringing it back too fast. And one of the doctors said, you know, it's a crazy world politics. Everybody wanted to get a vaccine as fast as possible. President Trump gets it ready fast, and they're criticizing them. You know, it's wild. Do you expect a vaccine to be ready before the election by late October Halloween? It could be Uh, it will be right there. I mean, it's right in that vicinity before a little or just

shortly after, which is years ahead of schedule. You know, if you look at if you look at what was going on with vaccines, there was no chance if you go back to another administration, and I'm not just talking about Obama, if you go back to another administration, play there's no chance that this would have been to three or four years. Because I've energized the FDA and we're proving things faster and safely. It's all it has to

be under present safe. But I've energized the FDA, which would have taken to three years, and we're going to have something in a matter of weeks. But it's amazing. This never happened until a few weeks ago when they started criticizing the whole concept of this vaccine only because I did it. If it wasn't me, it was somebody else, they'd say, Oh, this is unbelievable. The vaccine is going to be here so early. Uh, and it's people are very aware of what's going on. They see what's happening.

This is all done by the Democrats. Are very upset that we've done such a good job with a vaccine. They're very upset that we've done such a great job with like the ventilators, when you had no ventilators that all of a sudden we started producing. You know, we've done a good job in the COVID. This was given to us by China. Shouldn't have happened. Should have never happened. They stopped it from coming into China, but they let it go to the world. The whole world is suffering

because of it. It's a disgrace. But we've done a great job. But the new thing is the vaccine. And they're very very they're very angry, and you should they should be happy because we're talking about saving a lot of lives. But that's the world of politics, lay one of the world of politics. That's crazy to me, speaking of the way that the media has covered the coronavirus in general, um is they have praised Andrew Cuomo, who statistically has the worst death rate in the world President Trump.

I mean, that's not that he's writing a book about what a good job he did. You look at other states Florida, Arizona, Texas Republican governors, They've all done far better from a per capita perspective, and you would think that those guys have done awful jobs. All that matters is the difference between Republican and Democrat. I look at it like it's a scoreboard, like let's use data and actually use it. Like. It's wild to me that Andrew Cuomo is considered to be like the greatest governor in

the history mankind. When you look at his record, it's it's awful. Yeah, he had a hard time. He had a hard time, and I mean I can tell you the story. I know the story better than anybody. I won't say it, but I thought he definitely had a hard time. A lot of people died, unfortunately, and one of the decisions, obviously was the nursing home, which I

think needs to get looked into. But that seems to be a huge part of this is a huge majority of the deaths in many countries are coming out of nursing homes, and nearly fifty in the United States, and it's only point six percent of the population. Right, we have the nursing home. Look. It affects elderly people, especially if you have a heart problem or diabetes in particular, but other things too. But it turned out that they're vulnerable and young kids, if you have kids, I mean,

it's incredible. Their immune system is stronger. Who would have thought, and the younger the better. But they have statistics where a certain state had many thousands of death, thousands of and not one death under eight think of it. Not one. Now my three kids are all back in school, which is why I've been arguing, we need sports, we need people back at work, and all three of my kids are back in person schooling, and I think that's important.

Uh yeah, and thank you for helping to make that happen. Question for you, and this is a little bit interesting. I don't know, in the grand scheme of things, Kim Jong un, there's been all sorts of questions about what's going on in North Korea, and I'm curious what you think about his health. But also roar is that he is a big American sports fan, that he loved the Chicago Bulls, Dennis Rodman, Michael Jordan's. Have you ever talked with Kim Jong n about the nineties Bulls and what

did he say? What kind of conversation did you? Guy really does like Dennis Rudman. I will tell you it's it's sort of great. I always said Dennis would be better than some of these stiffs that they used to send over to get to know him. And they send these people over and they went to Harvard and they are great students and great everything, but they have no

chemistry whatsoever. He really did like Dennis Rodman. Dennis good guy too, And they said, uh, we should maybe use him instead of somebody that graduated number one at Harvard. Maybe we should use Dennis. I thought about that, but we have I have a very good relationship with him.

He does love basketball and he really does like Dennis. Uh. And so I always thought, like, man, if you could just bring him over here to go meet Michael Jordan's, like we might be able to get a great piece of cord, not to be based on how much he loved the bulls. Well, we've done well, we have a

good relationship, and frankly, nothing's happened. If Hillary would have gotten in, or if you had a longer term Obama, you would have been in a war with them as sure as you're sitting there, and you would have had a war that would have been a really bad one, a lot of nuclear weapons, a lot of bad things would have happened. And we're right now. Just hey, whatever happened to that war, right and I have a relationship. We'll see what happens. I mean, I'm not saying we

did a great thing the other day with Israel. With Israel and Bahrain, you saw a new a And that's just the beginning. We have a lot of other countries that want to sign into that. You'll end up in peace in the Middle East. And people are even the New York Times is giving that one Rave reviews, which is shocking. They said, if you moved the embassy to Jerusalem, everything would fall apart. Instead, it seems like it might. It might actually have helped in a major way, which

is a counterintuitive. Um. The last couple of questions for you here. Did you watch Tom Brady at all play with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I did, I watched, But football's way down. Ratings was way down because people are not going to stand for this stuff anymore. Well, were there not respecting our flag and our national anthem? They're just not going to stand for Ratings were way down. I did watch Tom, and I like Tom a lot, and I think he'll be fine. It was, you know,

I guess it was a break in game. The other team is a good team, good quarterback. Uh and uh, it was an interesting game. What did you think? I don't you know. I think the big it's like a divorce, right Belichick and Brady, and which one's going to have a better post divorced life? And I liked the way that Cam played for the Patriots in Belichick. And if you were buying stock in Belichick right now or in Brady right now for this season, which one do you

think is the better buy? Well, they're friends of mine, but I will tell you this, he's some coach. He's a very good friend of mine, and he's tough, and he endorsed me, and you know, he endorsed me the first time too, and he said he, I mean, you know some people don't want to get involved, Okay, they just so he doesn't care. He couldn't care less. He

wants to do whatever's right. He's a tough guy, and and he's just a great Coach's remember when he said the field goal against Atlantic, go for the field goal. They were getting killed. They had a chance for a touchdown or a field goal, and he kicked the field goal and school like seven to three down. Yeah, yeah, and he kicks a field goal, And I said, geez, that's not a good decision. It tended up to be a perfect decision because they had what tied and then

they ended up winning the game. If he doesn't have that field god, now maybe they would have been a touch ten. You know, who knows what happens. But there's a case where you would have said that's too conservative, right, And but he is a great coach. I've watched him win games that other coaches just wouldn't win. But he's

a great guy too, no doubt. Last question for you, does it seem as crazy to you as it does too many people in my audience that for high school football in particular, you've helped to get the Big ten back. We may end up with Pack twelve playing Mountain West.

Other conferences could be coming back. But if you look at the data in different states for high school kids, whether they have a Democrat governor or a Republican governor, in many respects seems to be deciding whether high school kids should be able to play football or sports in the fall. In general, should it kids be able to play sports regardless of whether the governor is a Democrat or Republican. Well, it's too bad, it has to be that way. But if you look at these states with

high crime, they're run by democrats. You look at the cities with high crime, they're run by democrats. And the Democrats tell you what their philosophy they're not working too well, and certainly their philosophies on law and order are working very badly. You look at all of the places that have problems. Uh, you know Portland, Look at that, it's run by these radical left Democrats. It's a disaster. We go and I could fix that up in half an hour.

We'll send in the National Guard. They have to ask us, it has to be requested. But but all of these places are run by liberal Democrats, and so I don't know. It's sort of it should be easy. We're going to find out whether or not people agree with me. Last question, did you tell my producer Danny g that he deserved a raise when you called last time? Absolutely? I said, you got the president, but you really do. You have a great show and he's a nice guy. But I said,

you got the president of the phone. You deserve a raise. I haven't done too many of these calls lately. I appreciate it, sir. We'd love to have you back on anytime you want to come on. Keep doing good work, and thanks for the work you did for the Big Ten. Thank you very much. Like everyone, have a good time. Thank you. That is the President of the United States, Donald Trump.