Okay, we're live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey Investigates on today's show. I have a very special guest. Her name is Elana free Land, and she wrote a book October twentieth, twenty twenty one. Title of the book is Geoengineer to Transhumanism, How the Environment has been Weaponized by chemicals, electromagnetics and nanotechnology for Synthetic Biology. And it has forty eight five star reviews right now
on Amazon. Really a fascinating book. I've read through. It clarified a lot of things that I wasn't really didn't have kind of a cemented idea about. So really her research, by the way, first rate, it's a very superbly and supremely well researched book. Sometimes I see these titles and I don't know what's in the book, So I was really very very pleasantly surprised to when I was looking
through it. It's not her first book. She published in twenty fourteen Chemtrail's Harp and the Full Spectrum Dominance of Planet Earth, and then in twenty eighteen Under an Ionized Sky From Chemtrails to Space Fence Locked Down. She's also written four volumes of a fictional title book which is based upon reality, titled sub Rosa America, and it's a
fictional approach to the real history of America. And she's a writer, ghostwriter, teacher, storyteller, and lecturer who researches and writes on deep state issues such as geo engineering, MK, ultra ritual abuse, targeting, and directed energy weapons. And her website is her full name. Her first name is spelled E l A n A and then last name Freeland f r E E l A n D, so it's Elanafreeland dot com. But again we're going to talk about
this book titled geo Engineered Transhumanism. So Ilana, welcome to the show. Thank you for the agreeing to the interview.
Well, I'm honored that you invited me. Thank you awesome.
Well, for people who may not have heard your name, not familiar with your books or some of your past research, can you do an overview and then talk about what led you to write this book geo n Engineered trans Humanism.
I started out years ago researching everything under the sun for the sub Rosa America series that I was writing. I'm the kind of writer that follows my nose. So I just kept researching and researching and looking under the rug and pulling out things that didn't make sense. No,
and I already knew some things. I've done a lot of research on mk ULTRA, about ten years worth, and so one of the files was on chemtrails, and I had another file on HARP, the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Project up in Kacona, Alaska, a very big giant acres and acres ionospheric heater used to control the planet Terry ionosphere. So I had these two files. Then I met Clifford Carnicum, the Independent scientist in I met him in when I was living in Santa Fe and we
started talking. I had a biology background, so he started telling me some of the stuff he was collecting from condensation in northern New Mexico. After these jets would fly overhead in what used to be a very very deep blue sky. But he could see that the flotsam and jetsam coming out the back of the jets was not contrails,
a condensation trail. He could tell by the chemical signature that it was a chemical trail, and so he was collecting what he could find through his through condensation snow et cetera and his HEPA filter, and what he was finding was well a lot of a wuminum, barium, strontium, a lot of very tiny particles that his microscopes could just discern. And then he was also finding biologicals all the way from erythrocytes, red blood cells to globs of stuff.
So Clifford was he knew he was onto something. He had worked for the Department of Defense before, he had worked for the Bureau of Land Management as a scientist, and he had finally gone off on his own and was basically contracting on his own.
So I.
Began to pay attention to what he was saying. He had a special red wine test that we did where you clean your teeth and then you slash red wine in your mouth for five minutes and spit it into a clean jar and then wait for it to either. You'll eventually see as it all settles, you'll begin to see certain fibers that actually move on their own motility. Oh that was that was a shock. And then we began to do the red wine test with as many people as we could find in the area, and and
always finding these these filaments. And this was the beginning of his work on Morgellons, which is a bad name for a nanotechnology. I subsequently found out that it had been biologically engineered. So Clifford was the beginning for me. And when I got back from England where I did some work for Adam Parfrey at Farrell House Press, Adam asked me if I thought I could write a book on chemptrails. I said sure, and so I wrote that first book, Kemp Trail's Harp, and I had Clifford in there.
I did a big study of his work. I also did a deconstruction of the harp patent by Bernard Eastland that explained how the entire atmosphere was to be turned into a massive battery, a massive antenna, and how it should be done. And it was an important book, but it was a kind of meat and potatoes book, and I certainly learned a lot by writing it, and that's something that writers do. They learn as they go too.
And then that book gave birth to under an Ionized Sky because I encountered a very important personality who sadly has just died just a couple of weeks ago. Billy Hayes, the harp Man. We call him because he was. He headed up the team that actually built the harp antennas, the Phase Deray antenna's up in Cocona, Alaska, and Billy heard me on Coast Coast after that first book and contacted me and said, I have got a lot more
for you about where this is going. So Billy was my right hand guy throughout that whole second book, and we went on radio shows until it became dangerous for him because it seemed like every show we went on they the ubiquitous, They were giving him a Grandma seizure. And I finally realized, well, this is too much. So I slowly withdrew from Billy for his own safety and
I guess mine as well. And eventually that book came out, and you know, I gave Billy several copies, and we kind of went our different ways because by then I realized that the next thing I needed to say before I was done with geoengineering and saying everything that I could say being a non expert, was the biological part. And lo and behold, as I start that book, that last third book two and a half years ago or so,
what happens? Boom? We end up in the CV nineteen drama, and so I took an extra several months of being glued to my computer as breaking news every day about biologicals that I recognized as coming from nanotechnology. Going back to Morgellen's, certainly there are parts of Morgellons, as Clifford did the analysis of it and broke into the element
and discovered organs inside that do various things. I realized that Morgellan's was the precursor of what is now in the serums that are being inoculated into people for a transhumanist breed of human, a hybrid human that will be what they call b c I Brain computer interface human, a human being that has been genetically altered so as to be able to be run by AI systems. This all fits into what I believe is the secret space program that Catherine Austin Fitz has talked about and and
Daniel who I just saw a message from Daniel. Yeah, they've talked about it, And I then just kept writing. I've never had writer's block. I don't know what people are talking about when they talk about writer's block. My problem is I handwrite everything in pencil. I'm obsessive about this. I will not write something original on the computer because I don't want the machine between me and my thought. So I just can't write quite fast enough with pencil.
But then I immediately put it into my hard drive and then work on it from there, so I'm not completely obsessive. So two and a half years roll by and I realize I've got to cut a couple of chapters or this book's gonna top over a thousand pages, which is just too embarrassing. And so I got the book ready. I had left Farrell House friendly leaving they did a great job on my first two books. I just wasn't making enough per book. It's very hard for
writers who aren't New York Times book review people. And I found the right person to format the book fantastic formatter, and I've people have come forward to help me just it's amazing with money and expertise. And I felt that I had a big enough fan base that I could go on my own and that has proven to be true.
So the book is out. It goes all the way from doing an up looking at geoengineering and what it has become today because we're a few years down the road from the twenty eighteen book, and then going into looking at the smart city, which is very important to understand how dangerous the smart city is, how armed it is, how armed the smart hospital is, So that people can make these decisions about their lifestyles, their faltering immune systems,
whatever it is. I wanted them to have as thorough a picture of this amazing takeover of the environment that we take for granted. We're all breathing the same air, we're all under the same sky. We have day and tonight, we have winter into spring and summer. I mean this environment that for thousands and thousands of years has been God's environment, the nature's environment, that which is something that we all hold dear to us and also could be
very dangerous. Suddenly, I am now proving, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that control over this environment has been achieved by the secret space program, that no doubt was goes all the way back to Operation paper Clip of bringing the Nazis over from Europe before the war was ever over, before the World War II was over, and giving them carte blanche to our space program, our rocket program, our hospitals, our mental institutions, our military bases, you name it.
And what has happened instead is this concerted, intentional effort to approach changing the human being from the vantage point of complete control over the environment. And that's of course what they call epigenetics. It's an a genetic approach to absolute control and the conversion of a large swath we now see of humanity into transhuman hybrids. That's basically the trail that I cut through all of this throughout the six hundred and ninety pages and sixty illustrations of the book.
Yeah, it's incredible, and you one of the interesting things that I took away from the intro of the book is you had to quote stating physical sovereignty is the most important political battlefield in your life. And I think that that's really it is. Then you mentioned full spectrum dominance. These people have put together dominance from the smart meters
to the smart cities, to the environment and chemtrails. That really is a full takeover of God's environment, really into a new kind of thing that we're part of, an think that the vaccines. Would you agree the vaccines are part of that?
Oh, yes, yes they are. They're there are three delivery systems of the nano technology that avails them of being able to pull this off. The first one is obviously the chemical trails. Those are of jets, drones, and rockets. The second delivery system is the GMO foods that everybody in America blithely eat as if they're natural, when they're not. These are not natural foods, These are not from nature. These are genetically modified seed called terminator seed years ago.
That's how I encountered them twenty five years ago. And then the third delivery system is of course the almighty vaccine, and this particular breed of genetic drive vaccine, I suppose you could call it. Obviously, they've had to completely change the you know, I was looking at the Merriam Webster definition of vaccination or vaccine like two years ago and going, whoa, they changed it. Well, it's not the same as it
used to be. So this has been a tremendous move because now it now comes in the other part that I actually share with Daniel List that I referred to earlier from his message, that dark journalist. And I also look at this other level of the occult brotherhoods, secret societies, Klaus Schwab types, global elites, whatever you want to call them. The people that have the resources and the power structure for not just now, but for what almost I'd have to say, thousands of years that are now making a
big move. And why are they making the big move now? Well, of course, my opinion is because the environment is a done deal. It's a done deal. I mean, the last piece before the nanotechnology was the wireless electromagnetics. And what had to happen before that so that the sky, the atmosphere would be able to handle the load of millions of wireless transactions constantly twenty four to seven. Well, that
had to be done chemically and electromagnetically. And that's of course what Project Cloverleaf, which is where it all started. That was the beginning of the takeover of the atmosphere. That Difford Carnicum when he would pull out his devices to check the atmospheric barometer whatever it was, he's reading over and over again that the atmosphere has been changed.
And this is very concerning, as you can imagine, this is the air we breathe, for one thing, and so you know, this huge thing going on right in front
of our faces. And the stories that they told to cover it over work climate change, global warming, carbons, that whole spiel from twenty fifteen on, and that was so obvious to all of us who were pursuing the exposure of geoengineering and what it really is that it has nothing to do with ameliorating climate change, with you know, bringing down the temp by blotting out the with these these so called serious clouds, which are not real serious
clouds anymore at all. They're made of plasma. They're electromagnetically made with chemicals in nanotechnology. Uh, you know, the the artifice, the environment is becoming an artifice that appears to be natural. Of course, they always want to make it the same appearance so we're not disturbed or we don't start questioning things. But all that had to be done before they could do something like what has happened in the last two years where they could I mean, they had to control
the media. Of course, we can't do without that. I mean everybody is you know, everybody's perception and life is mediated now by the media. You find out what you think and what you perceive by finding out what the TV says it is and what the iPhone says it is.
You don't we don't have any We've been cut off from nature and and nature herself is has been manipulated in such a way that even if we had her in front of us, we no longer have the ability to perceive her unless we make a radical life change, like you know, go off grid or any of that. We you know, eat naturally, I mean I do eat naturally. I eat organic. I've eaten organic since the sixties because I'm a I'm a sixties holdover and I've never given up on my youth. And you know, it was not
a phase I went through. I was just getting started back then. So how do you face this now? And that's what I try to give people in this book as as a sort of handbook, a tool that can be used to prepare ourselves, because you can't go to the doctor and he'll fix you. He doesn't know anything about nanotechnology. He's bought he's bought the program because he's AMA stamped like USDA stamped. So we now are going to have to become responsible for our health, for our perceptions.
Start thinking again. Throw the boottube out. I've never owned a television once, not even once. I don't own an iPhone. It's a weapon system. Why do I want to have another weapon system around? I have my computer. That's the only weapon system, well, and my landline.
That's one of the things you point out in your book is this dual use technology. So you think you're getting this communications thing on one side, but really they're monitoring you everything. Why did they know where you are? Same thing with the smart meter. And that's really the present, it's not the future. It's now. They can really now Google can find out where you are every time you're on their website. So people have got to get out, exodus out of digital Egypt immediately.
It's all now. It's all now, and now the transhumanism is now. I wish I could say it was in the future tense, but it's not. We're there and now we have I never know what numbers to believe, but let's say we have a billion people in the Earth, on the Earth who now have been inoculated. How many of those batches were loaded for genetic drive transformation, I don't know, but I would say that a large, large swath of humanity are now on a different evolutionary trail than I am.
That's really incredible. And you make that point the five g's working with all these different things, like you're in a completely different environment. It's off the charts, and I think there's similarities between the more jlones and what's in these vaccines what people can tell, I don't know the totality.
It's I have had two at my prior interview is about transhumans as well, but like there's things in there that are like more jalones where they're coming together by themselves and self replicating.
And so yeah, they're self replicating, and that would be the graphine oxide is the new thing that we now know about, and we now know since the murder. I have to say of the doctor, doctor Andrew, I can't remember his last name, Noakes. I think his name was who discovered the graphene hydroxide, which is like little razor blades running through your body. And it seems obvious that whatever this is, it's anti human and that's you know,
that brings up an interesting point. I'm sure a lot of people would immediately jump into, oh, it's off planet ets, it's alien technology the government has cut a deal with. I don't normally jump there, though. I'm not at all sure that there aren't entities that are very sharp that lack bodies and are looking for human bodies to nestle into cold. I could go for that, but I can't prove it. What I can do is follow the trail of details leading to the Devil's lair, And the devil's
lair has to be always anti human. And I don't mean just you know, like a like a Klaus Schwab who's been raised with a silver spoon in his mouth. I mean I mean people who abandon their humanity in a variety of ways. They don't realize that even though it may be secret, and you aren't telling anyone about this abandonment of your true humanity, you know, and we'd have to have that discussion, wouldn't we? What is true
human being? Well, a true human being? If you ever meet one who is, who is so beautiful and so wise, and so committed to seeing the world as a large enterprise of human evolution toward free will. If you ever meet one of those people, you have met a real human being. And I'm not talking about just having a head in a torso and two arms and two eggs. That doesn't mean much of anything to me anymore.
Right, I mean, you just don't know some of these ghouls who are on the TV talking about these vaccines are monsters. They're on par with Mangolo, as evil as you can imagine, and they have some kind of secret agenda. It's just like the Nazis when they often murdered people, they made a lot of money at the same time. So I see these guys in the same vein.
Yes, and yet it seems it almost seems more evil, doesn't it. But let's talk a minute. I don't want you to go away without hearing about the nanotechnology. I want to explain some things to people, because this revolution, this nano revolution, was done very quietly, and I sort of discovered it. Yeah, through my research for the second book. I was looking at rocket fuel and at jet fuel, and you know, figuring out, wow, there's a lot of
nano's in there, a lot of nanoparticles. Okay, so what are the qualities of nano Nano Nano is one billionth of a meter, so very small. You're not going to be able to see it, And who's going to be able to afford a five thousand power electron microscope in order to see it? So right away it piqued my interest and I began to read books on nano tech.
Eric Drexler was the founder of nanotech, and when he was in grad school back in the seventies, his idea was, if I can believe what I've read, his idea was very, very typical of a young man who had a lot of science skill. He wanted to He wanted to bring forward nanotechnology and the ability to lay one atom next to one atom, next to one atom next to one atom, to build building blocks that you could just set it in motion with a computer and an algorithm, and boom,
you could build an entire jet. Boom. You could build a ship, You could build a factory, you could build a wall, you could build whatever, a garment factory. Everything would be free our labor up. He thought, we would then be freer. We would be freer to do creative things in life, to do, you know, the good things in life that all of us want to do, but we're all paying the mortgage or raising the kids or whatever.
So his idea was that. But on the other hand, he also knew that here's the Chinese have this wonderful phrase, the bigger the front, the bigger the back. Okay, the front would look good. The back was that if ever the nanotechnology took over, it could devour anything around it. It would just munch it up and it would be gone, disintegrated, boom. And that's what stopped Eric Drexler from He sat on it for a few years. But now I know the US military. I know that they watch grad students. I
know that they knew about this amazing technology. And so I sort of read between the lines of these books I was reading that never said this, but certainly pointed in that direction that the military knew all about this nanotech at least by i'd say the late seventies. The seventies were just pregnant with all sorts of change that we are now facing as a done deal. So the nanotechnology, let's get down to the basics. I'm not going to
talk about building walls and stuff. But you saw that I had that one chapter on the geoengineered fires in California, and that's where I had an AHA moment through the filming of a guy who did one hundred films, Jamie Lee. He's a videographer. He did a films on the California fires because that's his home turf, that's his home. He wanted to show people what's going on with these fires
that are being geo engineered from the sky. And in one of those films it's called Paradise Loss number fifty one. I highly recommend it to everybody. He's talking with an anonymous nano materials scientist, high level PhD, scared to give his name, and we're hearing about the nanotech and what it can do as we're watching some drone footage of the fire spread spreading in California.
Yeah, the Paradise fire was off the charts, like it came.
Off the charts, and yet you know what was happening was it's like the fire was choosing one house and then then going beyond the next one, and then choosing that house and going beyond. And then as I'm looking, I'm watching the film and I'm going, wow, look at those embers. Those embers are like that must have been a really strong wind because those embers are moving fast. And then I realized, wait a minute, those aren't embers.
That's nanotechnology. It's a phalanx of nanotech that's being remotely run by some kids sitting on a laptop in the middle of Colorado deciding following his list of whose home is going to burn and whose home isn't going to burn. And then I watched those same nano fhalanxes zooming down a highway on their way to the next pit stop where they had a task to do. And then I thought, Wow, you can't see a nano because you don't have one of those expensive microscopes, but you can see them move
because they move in phalanxes. They move. It's called swarm consciousness and they all share it. So now let's shift from there to our bodies. We've breathed these babies in. We have trillions of nanosensors and nanobots in our bodies and brain because they have an easy time getting through the brain blood brain barrier. So they're in there. And what are they just sort of glombing up the works
and settling into tissues and things. Well, some of them are actual nanobots, nano robots, and they can be programmed from a distance. They can be reprogrammed. And now we hear that the serums of these these human rights destroyers, corporations, big pharma, we hear that they're loaded with nanoparticles, but we're not told that there are nanobots. We're not told that they act actually have little tiny computers in them
and are transceivers they can receive and send. So now we have, you know, and the more gallants, people who have the sores on their bodies and have little wires sticking out of their sores, they they have something that shows that it's there. The rest of us who don't have that, we have degenerating health. We have a very
high rate of autoimmune conditions. And now we're being told that the latest round of whatever they're saying it is is actually AIDS, which means autoimmune disorder, right, autoimmune.
Immune deficiency syndrome.
So we are we are experiencing an assault on our immune system. And certainly these nano bots are no friends of the immune system. So but the immune system doesn't recognize them. You see, it's going to have to learn to recognize this bioengineered stuff. And Clifford Carnacom nailed it when he renamed part of the Morgellons what's inside the
filament as the cross domain bacteria. It was a bacteria that have been genetically altered and weaponized that is now in us, in everybody, and it produces and reproduces, and we have the hydrogel int us. We have the graphine oxide, which is extremely conductive. And again it's always self replicating. What is it doing, It's making a network in us.
So now we see these latest films of what the wonderful researchers all over the world are finding inside the serums, and we're discovering, Wow, there are tiny little circuit boards, little circuit boards and instruments being ejected into people along with software, and they are being plugged in in a different way. I am where I'm not vaccinated. I'm plugged in, but not to the degree, not the genetic degree that the the inoculated are. So so we're having to now
really begin to look at the synthetic biology level. You see synthetic biology. They want to make us believe that it's just this narrow topic among many other topics. No, it's not narrow at all. It's very very large, and the synthetic aspect means artificial, not natural, And this is the direction they want to send us in some of them. I think I have a big argument going with God and nature. They want to be gods themselves. They want to run this planet, they want to run the human
beings on it. They want to explore a space but they need a different kind of human body if they're going to get through the even the Van Allen belts it's total radiation, you're not going to get through that. Yeah. So so there there's a very big dream which is now our nightmare that many of these uh, these elites have had for a long time, and a big move has been made recently. And even though.
What it is is the old feudal neo feudal system with synth file now, so their dream of being an elite ruling over the slaves, and you said it very profoundly, it's like they're creating the humans as a either a homonuclee or a gollum or something, which is really first it's it's most really a most horrific step in humidity
that we've seen. Like if people have forgotten shot for a billion, but we're still being exposed, whether if even we didn't get the shot, we're getting it through Franken foods, through the environment, anywhere, contact with them.
Yeah, we're loaded. We're constantly being loaded. And that's the problem. When people say, well, Lelana, what can I do, what can I do to get the nano bots out of me? Well, I always recommend. Tony Pantalaresco, a Canadian herbalist up in Ottawa. Tony has many people come to him because he completely experimented, initially on himself. He had morgellons very badly, and he is the one who discovered oh yes, you know, Morgellons, that's the wrong name. This is really nanotechnology that I'm
dealing with here. So he has a variety of things that people can start doing as maintenance. But you understand it has to be a maintenance because there's still loading things up in the atmosphere and we're still breathing them. And a lot of people are still eating GMO foods, just like they're still using microwaves loaded with the up in magnetron in their kitchens. I mean, it's like, excuse me, am,
I speaking English. After all these years, I've been saying over and over and over, get rid of this technology.
So how do you do it? What does he recommend? What protocols?
Well, I do his baths, and the baths are electrolytic baths. It's just a run a bath and put in a cup of baking soda, a cup of epsom salts, a cup of boron or borax, and I add a cup of sea salt for measure, because a lot of the water I'm getting is chlorine infested. So you know, you lay in there, and I do the bath only once a week. I should do it more, but I only do it once a week. And if you want to see what's coming out, you should do the bath maybe three nights in a row, and turn off the lights
in the bathroom. Have a good led flashlight and watch the surface of the water because you're going to see those You're going to see those phalanxes whizzing around on the surface of the water.
So you've seen those when you've done.
That, Yes, I have. So that's one thing. He has a thing called the triangle. You can go to his site Tony pen Talar Resco p A N T A L L E r E s co O. And the triangle is where you set up a magnetic field with the triangle that you've made, or he made, and you paid him to make it, and you put that over yourself while you're in the bath. Maybe you're having some pain in your kidneys or on your knees or something.
You put that right over it and boom, they're dead because it just it pulls the I'm out of the joints in particular, so that whole the triangle. And then he has a variety of things that he thinks you should be taking, different zinc and things like that. I'm not a supplements person. I pretty much follow what Robert O. Young, the naturopathic doctor, is saying, which is an alkaline acid balance in my diet. And I don't eat much meat. I mean, I've been on this diet for fifty years.
It works. I haven't been to a doctor since I was thirteen. I'm seventy four. Nothing hurts, everything works. I just eat the food that because these nanos they love acidity, they love it and all the wire technology I'm surrounded by in my apartment complex. Uh that that all that all creates acidity. So you you you know the only thing I try to do is to make my diet alkaline so that I can balance that out and not be eaten alive by the nanotech. Right.
I mean, it's really incredible what's happening. And you talked the intro to your book. You talk about Charles Charles Lieber, but I think recently got that restler. He's going to jail.
Well, yeah, yeah, we know, we know he's he's just one of many, right, I mean, you know they're going to kind of sacrifice him. Uh, but but there are many, many more, right, I.
Mean, it's pretty scary, like there's a lot in this book. I mean, and I think that the occultism too, of the drive in my last show I talked about it too, goes back to the garden we shall be as gods, we're going to try to live for but throwing the neo feudalism as well, because they're going to have the benefits of these technologies or whatever, and the peasants can go bound.
Sand, you know, right, And and and I want to say a word for humanity. I mean, I get tired of hearing people say, oh, the planet would be better off without humans. No, no, that is absolutely wrong. The planet, our lovely, beautiful planet, and being human are like we're like this, We're connected. The planet can't do without us, and we can't do without the planet. We need this planet for our development. That's why we come here over
and over and over and over again. And it's not it's not a it's not a walk in the park to be here. The lost choral decisions to be made here, and a lot of people get the idea that the way it should be is everything's easy and lovely and everybody loves each other. And I don't know what where did they get that idea. I mean, this is this is yeah, okay, the prison planet or the silent planet.
As C. S. Lewis wrote in one of his in his trilogy, his science fiction trilogy, it is what it is, and this is where we develop and develop true free will and then become real human beings, not just the ones who go around and take what they want and screw everybody else. And you know, I'm a capitalist, and I'm of this and I'm of that. No, the real human being has these beautiful qualities and we need to
pursue them. We need to be tested and go through trials and tribulations, and that's what we're doing right now. What's going on right now is no surprise to me, because I have been squawking and trying to wake people up for my entire adult life since the sixties. And people have chosen convenience, comfort and self indulgence and being special over other things they could have done in other times. And now it's too late. Now we're going to have to go the hard way, not the easy way, the
hard way. So okay, that's the decision that we collectively have gotten involved in, and I'm willing to do that, and you know, fight as I go each step, and that's what we all should do. We all should help each other and not give up. I don't want to hear any more about suicide. I want to hear about taking antidepressants from Big Pharma, of all places to take why would you take anything from Big Pharma.
They're not even antidepresence. It's another thing, like it's not really a vaccine. But the anti depressants aren't really antidepressants. They put you in a few state.
Well, and some of them. I have met young people who have been put on antipsychotics from being moody in high school by their so called loving parents, who have even told me that they are like possessed by entities that follow them into their nightmares. And they can they stop taking the drug, you know, whether it's Prozac or some other thing. They're not taking it anymore. But wow, it's the effect remains, right, and what is going on there?
You talk about the occult The first people I would look at when you're talking occult and corporate is big Pharma. That is exactly where I would go.
It's so most of those pills will hurt you more than they'll help you. A lot of those especially.
Yes, I mean if people can read still, I sometimes think, you know, I write books, but I know people don't read. Go figure, I'm writing these books for the future, is how I feel. I don't really, I know how it is people are having. They're surrounded by wireless technology. They can't read anymore, they can't concentrate, they can't remember. Everything's wiped like from page to page. I get it, I
get it. This is a huge challenge. But if people can just get some verses that they love, things that will make them, will deepen them while they're facing this tribulation we're all going through now, and really and feed that higher self. Always feed that higher self, and do not allow the lower self. You know, the lower three chakras, however you want to look at, it drag you down into a morass that is more difficult to get out of. We're all in this together, and you know, we've got
some great company. We've got some great company fighting and I never forget that thousands of people are fighting, and we just need to keep our higher self high and keep it protected and not allow the TV. The TV is a programming instrument. It is It is a weapon system. Whether you have an HD and a big screen or whatever you've got plasma, it doesn't matter. Behind that screen is a camera. Go ahead and unplug the whole bloody thing. That won't make a bit of difference. It'll still work,
and it's still microphone. And whatever programming you're getting, you are not smart enough to get around that programming. Let me tell you. I mean, just look at the people lining up for an inoculation. Just look at that. Do you know what that's from? Every one of those people? As a TV, I would bet on it.
I would do mass formation psychosis right there out of the glowing, flashing light TV in want a word about fifty minutes, Do you have time to take a few questions?
Sure?
Awesome. One is from Joseph. He asks, will they be able to reach a point where they don't have to vax the population, but can put that nanotech directly in the food supply well.
In the food supply, And what's coming from the sky we are now breathing graphine oxide. They use it every winter to make nucleated ice and snow because we don't have real snow anymore. Did you know that we have nucleated and.
So what does that mean?
Well, that they're creating snow out of chemicals and they I don't remember. I don't remember. You have to read one of my books. I just I define it in there. So I look out. I live in the Pacific Northwest, and it's like I live in a cloud. I live in a total cloud chamber. And sometimes we get a fog that is so chemically inundated, saturated that I know I cannot go outside. Now what kind of a world is this where I cannot go outside because it is
so chemically saturated. It's really tragic. It's tragic. So be careful, and people who run, please be careful. Do not run in the first hour to hour and a half of rain of a rain ever, you will be chemically hit. And those chemicals, because where do they come from Parma? Where are the serums coming from Big Pharma? Do you think they're not going to correlate those two to work together. They are, They're they're doing it together. That's what I would say to Joseph, gotcha.
Thank you. And then John basig Leone asks, does Alina feel that she is making any hitway in academia? She has she been able to convince any of the educators she has been associated with.
Oh, alas, alas, what can I say? If you don't have that almighty PhD programming conditioning behind your name, people don't think that you are much of a researcher or a writer or anything. But that said, my last book under an i andized sky, the translation rights were purchased by a publisher in Serbia who then published a then sent me a copy in Cerulean Cerulian alphabet, and it is now a textbook used at two technological universities. And
why does that make me feel good? Well? Yeah, okay university. But also that is Tesla's len and that's why they did this, because this is the only book under an ionized sky that makes clear how Tesla's technology has been weaponized by the West.
Awesome. And then another one is is Alana familiar with Ivan Illage's medical nemesis work? Were you familiar with that?
No? But I'm somehow familiar with Ivan Illage's name.
Yeah, that sounds smiliar, isn't that? It's like Ivan Illage Lenin I don't know. And then another one from Oswald is, does Alana think the recent surge of interest anthro philosophy in Steiner will be significant enough to make an impact on the post COVID world.
Well, I'm just thrilled to see that since to me, since Tom Cowan MD and Dietrich Klinghart MD quoted Rudolf Steiner in two film presentations of them speaking about how Steiner one hundred years ago said that a vaccine would be created which would take people's minds off of the soul or spirit. That Rudolf Steiner is experiencing a surge of interest, because I myself have been what forty years now studying Steiner. I was a Waldorf teacher, started help
start four Waldorf schools. And this is a remarkable, re markable initiate, and an initiate you'll have to look it up. It's not just a guy, this is this is someone with tremendous development as a human being, as I told you, a truly good, good person. So yes, I can only hope that people will check him out because we need we need help.
All right. You mentioned Steiner in your book too a couple of times. I also found some information in your book. I was surprised you stated that Michael Lokina was involved in the Zodiac killings. I'd heard that, but do you have confirmation of that that he was?
Well, I have, I have confirmation.
Yes, I have to have to follow up with you. I want to know about your mk Ultra research too. I'm curious about that.
Oh, that's a whole other show.
I know. Well, I've actually been going through some of Jolly West's stuff.
Uh huh. Well, the best book on mind control is Operation Mind Controlled by Walter Boort and Walter Bow. He wrote that in seventy eight. I think, and I.
Think of an intro was Richard Condon too, right.
Yeah, yeah, and it's a really good book. I just finished writing a book for an MK Ultra. I do that as because they don't have any money. I do it pro bono, as they say, because I want more and more MK Ultra stories out there. I want people to know what has been going on in this country since the Dulles brothers sold us out to the paper Clip Nazis.
So I think you mentioned a couple killers, a couple of strange events, like you were keyed into some dates in times where some of these mass shootings occurred. I think one was in la or in the valley, right, I can't remember, but like right after an election or things like that, Like really.
Well, I'm all about that, and then my sub Rosa America series is all about that. It's really all about mk ultra and a nation that was mk ultrad.
Oh yeah, yeah, that's what people think. It's just an independent thing, but no, they can apply it to the society and.
It's still going on, but it's now much worse because it's e mk ultra, it's electromagnetic and be all done remotely.
Now it's really scary, and there's still victims out there. I'm sure some of these guys. I've looked at the Colorado shooting. That guy something happened to him. His brain got scrambled somehow.
Well, I knew his dad was, remember who his dad was. His dad was deep into the establishment, the military industrial intelligence complex.
But there would before and afters where he's very lucid. He's giving a lecture about the brain, like so he was something happened. I don't know what it was. The next thing, you know, he's like Patsy or something in some kind of it's a whole another story. Yeah, well, great to have you on. Excellent discussion. You have so much information. This book is really full of all of that knowledge. You can see you're keyten and you're not.
You've learned a lot from a different a lot of variety of different areas.
That's right. I mean, that's the advantage of not having a PhD and being sent down one shoot into the stockyard. See, that's that's the advantage of the what I call the Ralph Waldo Emerson type of self made person or Henry David Thoreau. You know, we began as a nation that admired that what happened to us that we now need PhD? And you know, Harvard and Yale and all these sold
out institutions behind our name. So to get the book the black and white version, I want to be clear on this, the black and white version, I had to do that through a distributor because I'm I'm doing this myself, right, I don't have my publisher anymore. And that black and white is a little cheaper, and you get it from Amazon or your book your local bookstore. They can order it from their distributor. If you want a color edition for the sixty photographs, then please contact the Doctor Rudolph
Steiner Bookstore. That's the name of it in Seattle, Washington. He's doing me a big favor by handling this and it's only fifteen dollars more because we're going through another printer had we did that because we wanted to have a color edition as well for just a little bit more. I had to do it in this complicated way, but hey, that's what comes of doing something yourself. And so Doctor Rudolph Steiner Bookstore, and you can.
I'll put that on the show notes too. I'll put the Doctor Rudolph Steiner settle.
I can send you the u URL for.
That, that'd be great. Yeah, I can do that too. And then your website if people want to reach out to you again, is your full name.
Like alfrelan dot com. Yeah, wonderful site. My web mistress is under constant assault and it's it's taking everything she has to keep that site relatively undamaged. It's unbelievable what's going on now for a lot of us. But that's the way it is.
Right, and all of your books on the American Amazon, they're like solid five stars. So I haven't read your other two books, but this one, yeah, really fascinating, so highly recommended people check it out again. The title of the book is geo Engineer to Transhumanism. How the Environment has been weaponized by chemicals, electromagnetics and nanotechnology for Synthetic Biology, by Ilana Freeman. So, Alana, thank you so much for your.
Time, Thank you so much for having me.
William Cool, stay there all right,
