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Big Boy Rules

Nov 22, 202429 minSeason 3Ep. 22
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China and the Global Climate Transition: Insights with Richard Delevan and Jeremy Wallace


In this episode of Wicked Problems, host Richard Delevan zooms out to understand the current climate action landscape as COP discussions progress in Baku. He is joined by Jeremy Wallace, a political scientist specialising in China's domestic politics and climate action, and the A. Doak Barnett Professor of China Studies at Johns Hopkins University. They discuss the intersection of U.S., China, and global climate politics, the economic realities of renewable energy, and address the complexities of international relationships as they influence climate policy. Wallace sheds light on the significant role China's entrepreneurs have played in the renewable energy sector, and offers a nuanced view that challenges common perceptions about China's state-driven strategies. The conversation also explores policy volatility, potential future scenarios, and the crucial importance of deployment and climate finance in the global energy transition.


00:00 Introduction and Current Events at COP in Baku

00:22 China's Role in the Global Energy Transition

00:44 Guest Introduction: Jeremy Wallace

00:59 The Intersection of U.S., China, and Climate Politics

02:35 Jeremy Wallace's Journey into Climate Studies

05:26 Trusting Data: China vs. U.S.

08:06 Policy Volatility in U.S. Environmental Politics

12:05 China's Strategic Bets on Renewable Energy

19:13 The Future of Global Climate Cooperation

25:08 Final Thoughts and Recommendations

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