In the last episode of Wicked and Grim, we covered episode one of Richard Wersey Junior aka White Boy Rick. We discussed his recruitment and work with the FBI as an undercover informant at the age of fourteen, and his following years. Here is part two, and we will continue Rick's story on how his story led to his own arrest on drug related charges, as well as the results of his trial and following years.
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Anyways, I'll give us a quick little recap. So last week left off Rick was recruited by the FBI to infiltrate a drug operation and gang to feed information into the authorities. While he was at the age of fourteen years old he with him, and he did as he was asked for a few years, being responsible for many
rests and convictions as a result of his work. However, one day the authority stopped working with Rick, and Rick, being the young kid that he still was, because that's what he was, a kid, I believe sixteen at the time, just kept doing the gang life and the whole drug selling gig. Then he got stopped in a traffic stop
and was now being arrested for drug possession. However, they said he didn't have any drugs on at the time, but they said he fled the scene and stashed eight kilograms of cocaine under a porch in the neighborhood nearby, which was found a few hours later. And Rick claims that this was a setup, and that's where we left off.
Yeah. Well, it's a wild story.
It really is, and it only gets to be more of a slippery slope as we continue the Okay, okay, so reach down, buckle up those seat belts, make sure they're sinched up nice and tikes. You don't want to go flying out of your seat on this story. Sit tight, and here we go. It was in January of nineteen eighty eight when Rick Worshey Junior stepped into the Frank Murphy Hall of Justice in downtown Detroit accompanied by his parents. His mother was wearing oversized sunglasses sunglasses sorry, and a
lavish fur coat. His father was there as well, with a gray trench coat as he walked by his side. Rick himself wore a double breasted suit and pleated pants complimented by nice alligator skinned loafers as he walked into the courtroom. Oh wow, so they were looking good, they were now. Among Rick's legal representatives was a William Buffalino the Second, who was a short, stout man known for
his courtroom flare if you would. Notably, Buffalino hailed from a family with gleas ties to organized crime alleged, which
added an intriguing element to the unfolding drama. Now Buffalo or Buffalino sorry, had orchestrated a lot of attention around Rick's case regarding perceived violations of their constitutional right and as such, along with the infamy now of the manned newspaper we're calling quote white boy Rick, the trial drew a considerable audience, including representatives from media such as from
sixty Minutes. Oh okay, yep. So the camera crew from those guys were there, as well as supporters of Rick and individuals associated with the drug trade.
Okay, so they kind of have like an invested interest, Yes, what's going to happen.
Some of the latter actually were so notorious that even the attending journalists in the courtroom could easily identify these guys. It's like, oh, that's this ringleader dude.
Whoa. Yeah, that's a little bit unsettling, really, I mean, they.
Kind of is. But it's not like it's a courtroom. It's not like shit's going to go down, you know. I could only imagine how high the tensions in that courtroom would be. Yeah, Like, you have notable individuals who are committing I'm assuming several quite hefty crimes, and you have several authorities who are after in committing or sorry, condemning many of the friends of such people and the like. Is probably causing a lot of tension.
Yeah, yeah, I mean I can't imagine it'd be a very good vibe sitting in there.
I can't imagine many courtrooms are a very good vibe.
That's true, that's very true.
So during the trial, Rick was quite optimistic and he had reason to be. The neighbors who had reported the discovery of the eight kilogram package of cocaine that was found beneath their porch. They claimed that Rick had approached their backyard and was carrying the cardboard box. However, there existed zero tangible evidence linking Rick to the box. No fingerprints, no DNA, no video footage or photographs. Nothing. Okay, it
was going solely on a claim a witness claim. Now, one of Rick's legal representatives posted the theory that the police had planted the drugs to conceal the alleged beating that had endured a Rick. So defense witness asserted that during the altercation the traffic stop and he was, you know, allegedly being arrested for drugs, and the tussle occurred and he ran Allegedly during that tussle, a police officer actually struck him with his pistol, so literally pistol whipping Rick
in this incident. And so this was actually a way of giving them reason for the force that was used. So it wasn't like excessive force because it's like, hey, this guy like trying to run with a bunch of drugs. So you know what like a force the ground sort of thing and hence the beating.
Mm hmm. But he didn't have anything when he was running away, correct, correct?
Okay, I mean there's nothing saying that he did, but there's nothing saying that he didn't.
Yeah, okay, you know.
I mean what they found in his car was cash, but they never said, well, he ran off with an eight kilogram box of cocaine. But they're all like, well, he must have had it on him, we just didn't know or didn't see.
Well. I feel like that would be something notable that you would remember.
I can imagine it's like, oh, what's that guy running away with a brick of cocaine? Yeah, it looks it's like yeah, it's simple as that.
I mean, even though even if he was just carrying a box, like say it was sealed, I think that you would just recall that because you would be like, shit, what's in the box? And you wonder, Yeah, I.
Mean you're stopped and you're a known dealer at this time, right, So you're stopped and there's a giant water cap that the police officers have found, and then you suddenly just run off with a box. I wonder what's in there, you know, But there's no such thing any box or any drugs or anything other than cash being present at that traffic stop in his vehicle at the time.
Okay, so yeah, because he had just dropped them all off. Two right, I'm trying to Yeah.
Yeah, he had already done the transaction.
Hence the cash.
The cash.
Yeah.
So during the closing statement, the attorney emphasized the multitude of falsehoods and flaws in the state's case, urging that the audience would reject this idea, declaring quote, it repels you and makes you want to stand up and shout no way, no way. Now something that I did actually say in part one. This kind of goes back to the box of cocaine that was allegedly stashed that Rick allegedly ran away with. I did say that Rick claims
to this day that he was set up. Technically that's false, because I did find some new information that Rick actually claims to admit being responsible for those eight kilograms of cocaine. It was part of the shipment that came in that day that he was dealing with, but it was in the hands of a partner who lived nearby and hid it under the neighbor's porch after hearing police sirens and ah, yeah, so Rick did is still maintaining that he did not
have it on him during the altercation. Yeah, it was another individual who Yeah, he still is responsible for the cocaine, but another individual who actually held it and stashed it. He technically should not be getting arrest for possession because he did not have it in his possession, but.
He knew of it kind of thing.
He knew of it. It was his, but he did not have it on him when he was arrested for ession of alleged possession. So I do want to remind you guys that Rick is a drug dealer. We know that he is a gang member. We know that. So it's not like he is being arrested just blatantly out of nothing. There are reasons technically, though, the arrest was made under potential false pretenses. So he does still claim to this day that he did not stash it himself or have it with him in the initial stop when
the arrest occurred. So okay. Nevertheless, the defense team managed to inject uncertainty into Rick's case over said eight kilograms of cocaine over four days of deliberation the jury twice notified the judge of their deadlock, but they were unable to come to a decision. They were unable to come to a verdict. Throughout this period, Rick remained confident. His
defense team was reassuring them we got this. In fact, at one point, even before trial, his defense team was so sure of themselves they didn't even think they'd be going.
To trial, Okay, So the fact that they were even there though, was a bit, yeah, surprising for them.
So Rick remained confident, you know, even joking around with some officers and stuff in the hallway, you know, just being casual, like it's not a big deal, Like he's going to be out in no time.
I wish I could act like that if I was in that situation. I think that I would be kind of a negative Nellyan, just be like.
I'm done, terrified. I would have no fingernails left. I would be like chewing them to the bone, guaranteed.
Well. I thought I was going through a roadblock the other night, and I wasn't. I hadn't even been drinking. I was thriving people who had been drinking, and I was like, shit, shit, shit shit.
In no situations, it's almost like, that's when you're questioning yourself, do I have eight kilograms of cocaine in my car?
I know, it's just so weird because yeah, I had done literally nothing wrong, but I was just like panicking. Amo.
Yeah, the stress, the situation. But yeah, Rick was remaining confident. He was reassured by his defense team there's nothing to be concerned about. They got this. And then finally the long awaited verdict finally came in. Rick Worshe Junior was found guilty of possession, and he sat in the courtroom with an expressionless demeanor, not knowing what to do.
Shit.
So the following sentencing hearing was held three weeks later, and it seemed like it was a mere formality because as possession of over six hundred and fifty grams, it mandates a life sentence by the state under the law of the six fifty lifer law. Oh my gosh, a sentence that was very quickly handed to Rick, who I want to remind you is seventeen a minor.
Okay, And I wonder, I just this kind of just like dawned on me. I wonder if he was kind of so calm because he was thinking, had I word this that at some point like okay, like the FBI is going to come and help me or whatever. You know, they kind of like put me back in the day in this situation, like something's going to help me.
Yeah, it's potential.
Holy shit. Okay.
So the judge during the sentencing took note of the other youth in the courtroom who were adorned with quote, gold chains and dress that is common to the drug trade. He ominously kind of predicted that they would survive the perils associated with the lifestyle, the drug trade, the gang life, basically saying that, yeah, you guys are one day going to end up neighbors in jail with Rick if you don't smart enough, if you keep this act going, Look what's happening to your friend sort of thing.
So, even though he was a minor, he was still kind of tried, like got a full sentence correct, So it almost seems like they're using Rick is like an.
Example potentially, but even still, you shouldn't be able to do that to a minor. No, but they still tried him as an adult even though he's not.
Gosh and a miner with like his history did like the courtroom and the judge and the jury know of this FBI history or had that not? Really? Am I getting ahead of myself here.
I'm going to touch on that here soon.
Okay, okay.
So, during the jury's deliberation in Rick Junior's trial, because remember his father is Rick Senior, So Rick Senior actually had a confrontation with a member of the authorities in the hallway outside the courtroom. He allegedly warned the individual quote, you better not sleep too well, which swiftly led to his arrest.
Yeah.
So he faced charges of threatening an officer and to add to the lists possessing illegal silencers which were discovered in one of the raids of his home. If you call in part one, Rick Senior was involved with the illegal arms dealing, so his threat to an officer was taken even that much more seriously.
So.
From his cell in Wayne County Jail, Rick Senior granted interviews to several reporters in the weeks following his son's conviction. In each conversation, he told a story that seemed almost unbelievable to anyone who heard it. Any of the reporters. Rick Senior began telling everyone about how both he and his son had served as informants for the FBI quote.
They used me and they used my son. He asserted that they both had taken significant risk to assist authorities in gathering crucial evidence of drug dealings on the East Side, and to quote him again, and now they turned round and fuck us over.
Mm hmmm, Kim, I'm kind of glad that he's not keeping quiet.
Yeah, no, he's he's actually speaking out. And this claim that he'd actually been colaboring with the FBI was a perplexing claim to many, and it kind of like shook the world essentially when it came out, or at least to those who were involved with listening or following the story in any sort Basically, like, if this were true, why hadn't the defense team, like you had mentioned, bring
this up during the trial. Well, reportedly, Rick Junior's attorneys made an agreement to not admit any pre trial evidence, which would include omitting any information regarding him working with the FBI or police as an informant while infiltrating the gangs.
Okay, why sorry, I don't know. Okay, I mean I feel like if that was mentioned, it could have gone a lot differently.
Perhaps, Oh, I mean like this, honestly, it makes things a lot worse. The news had been painting White quote white boy Rick as a drug king pen basically a dangerous man who's like running rampant on the streets of Detroit, even being responsible for the disappearance of individuals, hencing potential murders at his hand, being a leader of hundreds of murders within his gang, most of which was not true
at all. He sold drugs, yes, but was certainly not a kingpin by any means, and anything else was literally a flat out lie. Years later, on a parole hearing, he would actually the court would actually touch on this whole thing, and they looked at a lot of the news articles and papers that were written about him at the time. They found that over half of them were proven to be falsified stories with zero evidence to stand on.
So basically, Rick stood in front of a jury that knew absolutely nothing of his work with authorities or how he became an informant. But they did know about the miss white Boy Rick because of all the news articles out there and the falsified stories that were being published in the public newspaper outside the courtroom.
Oh man, this is this is a mess.
So all they knew is that this quote white boy Rick was a drug kingpin, responsible for people's murders potentially and is now found with eighty kilograms of cocaine in his possession. Eighty eight or sorry, he's eight kilograms? Was like, oly shit, no not eighty eight Wow? Yeah, to Rick
to quote him, he feels the attorneys quote tanked his case. Now, there is some this would be like a multi episode if we kind of go into this, but there is some thought into potential was it tanked on purpose and some political stuff with his attorneys, but that it's a whole spider web, so I'm not going to get into that, but there is a potential that they tanked it on purpose. But Rick does feel his attorneys to tank the case, whether purposely or not, We're not going to touch on that.
Okay, Well, I just have to just say that's not potentially far fetched with everything else that's going on.
It's not. It's not I mean, like, how could you not say, how could you make an agreement on your on your the person you're representing a defense team that we're not going to bring up the whole history on why you're holding drugs in the first place.
Yeah, that doesn't make any sense. It doesn't because yeah, you know, you almost think was were they paid off? It's potentially right, like how much were they making?
Yeah? Now, So, when asked about Rix's involvement as an informant, the FBI, adhering to their agency policy, never confirmed nor denied any relationship with either Rix Senior or Junior. Now At the time, Rick Senior identified an FBI agent named James Dixon as the handler for the two of them, but when questioned about it shortly after the trial, Dixon declined to comment on the matter whatsoever, basically stating that any suggestion of betrayal by the law was quote ridiculous.
Dixon resigned that same year and remained silent on the case thereafter. However, today he resides in a Detroit suburb and was tracked down after retirement. Initially, he spoke very cautiously when being interviewed and spoken to about this case. Any casually mentioned working with uninformant without disclosing a name. When asked directly if that informant was Richard Worshe, there was a prolonged pause followed by yes.
No shit, yes, wow, oh okay, that just made my stomach just ex sink.
Yeah. So not only is it confirmed and there are apparently documentation out there with the Worsh's names on it regarding the FBI federal documentation, but now we actually have admittance of it, and none of it was brought up in trial. When questioned about it around the trial, even outside the courtroom, no one would confirm or deny or say anything. I'm pretty sure all of that information, even a little bit of it, would have been very and I mean very impactful on this case. However, it was
just tossed aside. And Rick Junior, seventeen years old, while standing trial and being convicted, is taking the brunt of it all.
Hm, this is just such a bizarre story.
Well it gets a little worse.
Are you serious? I don't understand how.
It could well see the law regarding life to those who were charged with possession over six hundred and fifty grams, remember that, the lifer law. Yeah, it was eventually overturned in two thousand and three. But Rick, however, was rejected to a new hearing or parole because he was apparently labeled as a menace to society by the Michigan Parole Board. So even though that law that stated he needs to get life was overruled and gone out the window. He still had to serve life.
Oh my gosh, this is almost just terrifying this case, because it's just it seems like so many opportunities or chances to be heard just get rejected. Yeah, and it doesn't make any sense.
I want to know something even more crazy.
No, I'm actually my mind's already blown.
Well perhaps because of this, but anyways, he see this is this is difficult to say because it sucks. He assisted the FBI again in the nineteen nineties while behind bars with a sting operation. Why so Rick juniors help being convicted and he's helping the FBI once again.
I'm sued.
Now. The FBI they went to see him, they asked for help, and they told him they couldn't get him out of jail, but they did say that if you help us with this, we could potentially get you out of jail and into an FBI custody like a Witness Protection program facility. So you're still like in a housing and everything, still technically in prison, but at least you're
out of jail in a housing situation instead. And they also said in your parole, we can like stand trial and speak for you as well in a parole hearing.
Okay, please tell me they delivered this for him.
So the operation was known as Operation Backbone, and that again could be a whole other episode all on its own, and it kind of ties back to the individuals who represented Rick Junior in the court his defendants. But Operation back Bone was targeting crooked cops and officials and political figures and was unfortunately an unsuccessful operation. Now I did get word of him being in some sort of facility,
but I couldn't really pin down when it occurred. If he was taken into FBI custody and a protection program for like a year six months, when I have zero idea, I don't even know if it's true. But I did read that somewhere that he was in a protection program at some point. However, everything else just says he was behind bars, he was in prison. So I'm going to go with the point that he never did get into FBI protection and he stayed in prison the entire time.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, So the operation was unsuccessful. The targeted man by the name of Gil Hill and other influential city politicians just kind of they weren't able to do anything. So despite his efforts, he was labeled as a menace still and was still too dangerous and did not get a rehearing to lose the life sentence.
That's interesting though, just because the operation wasn't successful, he doesn't get shit that's promised.
No, it's not that that. It's not that it's because it wasn't successful. It's potentially because it wasn't successful that he didn't get a The courtroom didn't look better on him. You know, it's like, oh, sure you help the FBI, but for what nothing happened. You know, he was labeled as a menace to society sort of thing. So he
wasn't granted a rehearing after that lifer law was overturned. Right, So maybe if he helped the FBI and it was successful, maybe they wouldn't have looked at him as a quote menace to society and would have given him a retrial.
And this menace thing is bothersome to me because, like we've talked a lot of times on here about how rehabilitation is possible, isn't possible kind of thing. But I feel like with how young he was, I do feel like it's more so possible, oh definitely right that he could think he could really have get an change his life right for the better. And I don't know.
Well, And not only that, he was a model inmate, he had not a single infraction on his record seriously the entire time. Well he did have one, which we will touch here later. He had one infraction well behind bars his entire prison career. He had won wow. But he was a model inmate the entire time otherwise, and he was non violent. He just had drugs on him, which apparently he technically didn't even And I feel like.
If anyone should be a pain in the ass and in prison, it would be him, because I would just be like pissed.
Probably. Now another detail that's really important to talk about. In Michigan, each person is supposed to have an opportunity for parole once every five years, Okay. However, for some unknown reason, Rick was denied that right. He was given a single parole hearing. Ever the entire time he was
behind bars. So in twenty seventeen, extensive publicity surrounding Rick Worshey Junior's case, who was, as I already mentioned, a nonviolent drug offender for a crime he committed at the age of seventeen, led to him finally receiving a parole hearing after a total of twenty eight years behind bars.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah, let that soak in.
What the actual fuck is happening?
Non violent crime a youth. The law that puts you in there for that long was overturned. You have the right to a parole hearing every five years. However, here we are twenty eight years later for a youth first parole hearing. Non violent again. Remember, I think that's very important to say.
You know. I just feel like if I was him, I would be like almost lighting that place on fire. I would just be I as much of a pain in the ass as I could be, I think, because fuck, it wouldn't change anything.
Yeah, well, I mean I can't condone Arson, but I understand your sentiment that I know what you mean.
That was such a statement physically actually do it, but you know, yeah.
Yeah, I was just fucking but yeah, no, I would be livid as well. So he spent twenty eight years in jail was finally out on parole. However, his release did not bring freedom, as he was immediately taken into custody by the US Marshals to serve another five year sentence in Florida State Prison. This was for a two thousand and eight conviction related to car theft ring while he was behind bars. As I said, he did have one infraction on his resume, if you will, of a
model inmate. So Rick committed this crime behind bars. He had purchased a stolen car through some of his connections for his mom and sister. Authorities found out about it and threatened to pursue legal action on his mom and sister if he did not seek a plea bargain in court. So he did, and as a result, was sentenced to an additional five years in prison.
Holy shit.
Yeah, So, despite his application for leniency or essentially like mercy, he was denied and went back to jail.
And that's where he is right now.
He completed his sentence with credits for good behavior and was released from cuts in Florida on July twentieth of twenty twenty, just in time for COVID when he had to get locked down.
Oh my gosh, right, oh okay.
In July of twenty twenty one, a year after his release, a year out of jail. Rick took legal action against the FBI, asserting that his lawsuit. Asserting in his lawsuit that the involvement as an informant for the task force completely compelled him into the world of drugs, gangs, and criminality. He contended that the FBI's actions amounted to child abuse, and yeah, I wholeheartedly agree with that.
However, how you're however's however, throw a coaster at your face?
Wow, thank you.
I'm pissed over here.
Wow, I'm going to try and protect myself on Nicole's probably throwing stuff at me. But however, a federal judge did dismissed his one hundred million dollar lawsuit against the FBI and Detroit Police, ruling not that his claims were false, but that he had waited too long to sue over his alleged distress and misfortune resulting from cooperating with the government. He waited too fucking long to sue the man that they held behind bars since he was a fucking child who couldn't even get a parole.
Hearing this case is just something, isn't it. I cannot believe this. It just keeps getting worse and worse. It's like the shit just keeps piling on. Yeah, I don't even know what to say.
Your eyes are the size of those coasters right now, they are.
I'm just shocked. I don't know if I've actually been this shocked over a case. I mean, like, we've covered so many that are shocking, but this is just like jaw dropping.
It is he was a figure for authorities and then they pinned all this on him. Why. I don't know.
Well, they're backpedaling because they realized they fucked up.
Yeah, how bad would it have looked that they got this kid shot when he was like what fifteen or sixteen? How bad would it look that they ruined this kid's lives? Oh, they realized this is child abuse?
Shit. M hm.
So this potentially could be a whole cover up. Potentially maybe, I mean, honestly, there is documents saying he worked with the FBI. There is admission that he worked with the FBI as an informant, but to what extent though a lot of this is coming from Rick's story, Rick's side, Rick's dad.
There's always two sides to the story.
I guess some of it might be being embellished, But as far as we know, the FBI is not denying any of it.
I don't know the whole would cover up and everything. It's shot, but it's not shocking, do you know what I mean?
I know what you mean. Yeah. So Rick, at the age of seventeen, was convicted and spent over three decades behind bars. And while behind bars, he had no one. He was fighting the literal government and FBI. Rightfully, he expressed fears of retaliation if he spoke out against powerful figures who claimed and pressured him into becoming an informant as a kid. So how could he really know that he could even sue? He had no one behind bars?
And because too, in a situation like that, you wouldn't really be able to protect yourself no, right if someone did want to do something to.
You, you're at the whim of authorities. I mean, technically speaking, we always are, but much more of a watchful eye at that point. So if he's going to be behind bars and sue them, you think that's gonna fucking work?
Yeah? I could, you could, honestly, just with all the shit going down, like I could see him getting killed.
Yeah, And how could he have even really had a lawsuit behind bars? He's going to have he's not going to be able to find someone to defend him. He's going to be given a defendant, given a defendant by who the authorities he's trying to sue. You think he's going to win that case?
Yeah?
Wow, Yeah. So the judge concluded that he could have and should have taken legal actions sooner, but since he didn't, it was just simply too little too late.
Is that actually a rule though, that it took him too long? Like I've never I think.
There is, because there's even situations that I have heard of murderers like literally telling their story after it's too little too late to have been wrestled.
Right.
Actually, I can't remember what the law is called or anything, but I do know that there is that sort of thing that occurs quite frequently.
But I also feel like there has to be excludion, like this man was in jail, so like he didn't have the opportunity, do you know what I mean?
I know what you mean. Yeah, I feel the same. Yeah, even if he didn't, even if he did have the opportunity, even authorities, the government would provide the opportunity for inmates to pursue a lawsuit like that, he didn't have the education to know better. He was a kid when he was thrown behind bars. Yeah he didn't know. Yeah, maybe they should have. I don't know, made him see counselors talk about this sort of thing. Maybe he's been sitting on this idea for years and didn't know he could
pursue it behind bars. Did they give him the opportunity, We don't know. So while serving his time behind bars, ricked missed crucial moments in his family's lives. His father had passed away and he was unable to attend his funeral. He had two kids who he never really knew, met a few times through the bars of prison.
He had two kids.
Yep. Oh, I'm not too sure when they were conceived, if they were conceived before he was going in or I mean maybe conjugal visits. I don't know. I didn't really dig too much information, dig too deep on that information. Okay, But he did have two kids, and he missed decades of their lives. So now, the name white Boy Rick was not a street name that Rick used himself, nor was it one that he was ever called by those who he was associated with. The name was strictly given
to him by reporters and new sources. So Rick Worshey Junior was a boy who was working with authorities. To what degree I mean that may be up for debate, but it is factual and it is documented that the relationship did in fact occur. It is very possible and perhaps probable without any sort of this informant connection, that Rick may have grown up to live a drug in crime free life. He may have never seen the inside of a prison cell whatsoever, but instead, well, you know how it played out.
But I mean, on the flip side, who knows, maybe he still would have ended up in that sort of crowd too, right, He might have.
Yeah, he very well could have.
Being just thinking about like what his dad was involved in and stuff.
Yeah, and he didn't grow up in like the very nicest of areas either, Like it was fairly heavily involved crime drug gang thing in the vicinity of his upbringing. So yeah, it's a very good possibility that it could have occurred. But it's also a very good possibility that could have grown up and have a beautiful family and a lawyer in good suburban town, mowing his lawn every other day and going to church on Sundays.
Yeah, well, I mean, even if he was involved in, say, got involved in some sort of something shady, he probably would have had a better chance in court and with pearls and everything, because there wouldn't have been someone in the background and on all this.
Yeah, So, I mean there's a lot more political ties that go into this story. There was a documentary called White Boy, and it's on Netflix right now. I do highly recommend you go watch it. It is very informative and they go into some of the political stuff a bit. For example, one of the things one of the gangs that Rick was infiltrating, I can't remember what it was called. It was called the best Friend's Gang, I think is
what it is. And one of the heads of that gang, Rick Junior, had actually gotten arrested and convicted, and so Rick almost kind of took his place a bit, but like not really. However, he did start dating that guy's wife, oh shit, who also was the mayor's daughter or something
like that. And then that's why the FBI wanted to use Rick's in when he was behind bars, because of his his connection to this woman who was like in the political world, and like there was a wow, and then there's different ties with his his defendants who are also within and all this, and it just it's a huge, huge thing that it goes down for quite a ways.
So how how long is this? Is it like a mini docus here?
He's kind of I know it's a one off documentary, and I think it's I think it's like two hours.
Okay, yeah, yeah, I actually really want to watch that.
It's a good documentary, huh, Because.
Yeah, this is this is a fascinating story. It's unbelievable.
I can't believe I've actually ever heard this, which I mean, this story goes so deep because there's even lyrics of white Boy Rick and some some like rap songs and stuff like that Kid Rock spoke at his parole hearing. Yeah, yeah, wow, Okay, jeez, it's just wild.
This is wild.
It is.
I keep saying that. But I don't even know how the hell out should describe miss this. Why I can't even talk and my eyeballs are still the size of these coasters.
Well, I'm curious what everyone thinks on the validity of this. Do you think that white Boy Rick or Rick Wershey Junior was involved in the FBI to the extent that he says, because we know he was, that's factual. But did the FBI really indoctrinate him into the gang and crime world? Did this really all occur when he was fourteen?
Man, it seems like it almost seems a guy. I believe it, but it also seems like it's something I don't want to believe either.
I think I do believe it.
Yeah, Like it's disgusting if it's if it's a hundred percent.
Yeah, I mean sure, maybe they're they're embellishing some of the stories a bit, but I don't think they're going to embellish the story on Yeah, I was an informant since fourteen. Okay, maybe it's even fifteen. I was an informant since fifteenth. Hasn't really changed much. I was an informance since I was a young teenager for the authorities to infiltrate gangs and sell drugs and stuff. Like I said, there's documentation that he was.
Whoever had this idea is just.
Cruel, Yeah, extremely cruel.
Yeah, very disturbing, disturbed.
Yeah, huh Okay, So that's uh the story. There you go, white boy Rick aka Rick Worshey junior man.
How old would he be? Now?
Oh you know, I'm not certain. I let me see. I'm gonna say he's around.
Sixty Okay, Yeah, that sounds about right.
I think he got out when he was about fifty eight if I'm not mistaken, So I think it'll be sixty one, maybe sixty two.
And okay, I shouldn't, it's not funny, but I just there's so many other things that I think people have committed worse acts, not saying that he didn't commit anything bad, that are in prison for way less time.
Yeah. Well, I mean, let's look at this. Assume assume that he did work with the FBI as an informant. Assume that he was there under there, okay, to be a fake drug dealer, a fake gang member, whatever, Okay, he did after they disconnected from him, which they didn't actually say they were disconnecting, They just stopped talking to him. So theoretically he may have still been under the impression that he's still working with him, but will say there
was a cutoff. He was a gang member and drug dealer for up to approximately a year six months to a year, let's say, where he was committing these crimes solely on his own accord, without the authorities telling him to.
Yeah, but he was kind of also in too deep.
That's part of the story.
They couldn't get out of it. Yeah, for sure, how the fuck would you get out of it?
You're right, but he was a drug dealer, he was.
Yeah, he was negatively affecting other people's lives by being a drug dealer, for sure.
So even if you take out the aspect of being affected by authorities and manipulated and it's indoctrinated into his life, he was a drug dealer for six months to one year. I don't care who the fuck you are if you're a drug dealer for any amount of drugs, a nonviolent drug dealer, well, I mean maybe if you're like literally working with the cartel and like shipments like I don't know, like shipping containers like thousands of pounds of drug might
be different stories. But if you can carry the amount of drugs on your person, you should not serve life in jail, no way, Because I can only imagine some of these people that's their only option of a livelihood. Yeah, that's all they can do to feed their kids.
I don't know. I'm just thinking about other people have like committed murders and like done wrongdoings to children and they get liked and they get less and oh gosh, yeah, and then they're back out on the streets. Because I feel like him being back out on the street isn't necessarily going to be what's the word, a problem for humanity or like no, you know, like reoffending or no, like a fear of reoffending.
I agree, there's many violent criminals out there who got way less than this non violent criminal, yeah, who was technically only a criminal via the puppet strings of the law. Anyways, I could rant for like hours on this because oh my gosh, it just keeps going. So I'm curious what you guys think. Shoot us a message or anything like that. I totally want to know. If you want to check out any of our other links, they're all down below. We got Patreon, we got YouTube, we got Instagram, we
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