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Why I‘ll Never Make It

Patrick Oliver Joneswhyillnevermakeit.com
The actor’s journey is one of occasional highs and frequent lows. It is a path riddled with self-doubt and frustration as we question our career choices, wondering if we’ll ever really ”make it.” But it is those few moments of glory on stage or screen that can sustain us through all the setbacks and challenges. On this award-winning podcast, New York actor Patrick Oliver Jones invites fellow creatives to share three stories that offer a behind-the-scenes look at the creative life rarely seen in the glitz and glam of this industry. These conversations remind us we’re not alone in this often bumpy and winding journey of the performing arts.
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Episodes

Megan Carver - Actress, Producer, Writer, and Filmmaker

Whether in life or her profession, Megan lives by three simple mottos... Work Hard • Be Kind • Stay Classy • And it is these ideals that led her to turn a punch to the gut into another creative outlet for finding work and fulfilling her passion. She opens up about the tough road she faced coming to NYC from Oregon and what propelled her into a world on the page and behind the camera. She's got a lot of wisdom and insight to share today...this is a jam-packed episode! Here are links to what she t...

Jan 22, 202049 minSeason 4Ep. 5

FINAL FIVE: Remy Germinario

Thanks for joining me and Remy for this week's FINAL FIVE! After our discussion of the rigors and challenges of stand-up comedy, we got down to the serious business of bucket lists and sage advice. (I even throw in a new Final Five questions just for Remy.) The answers given are surprising and revealing, showing another side to Mr. Germinario... If you could have any other job outside of the arts what would it be? What is a bucket list role or show you still hope to do one day? Who do you look u...

Jan 17, 202010 minSeason 4Ep. 4

Remy Germinario - Theater Actor Finding Another Stage with Improv and Stand-Up Comedy

I first met Remy Germinario while taking improv classes at Upright Citizens Brigade in NYC. He’s an actor as well as a comedian, and he shares how he got into stand-up and how we as creatives wear many hats and have to showcase many talents. It was a few months ago that I was at an audition and ran into Remy. It had been awhile since our UCB classes together, and we started talking about all the stand-up he’s been doing and it absolutely fascinated and surprised me as to what all actually goes i...

Jan 15, 202055 minSeason 4Ep. 3

FINAL FIVE: Miata Edoga

Welcome to the first FINAL FIVE Bonus Episode of 2020! These are five questions I ask each guest on topics and insights not covered in our main conversation on Wednesday. The answers given are surprising and revealing, showing another side to Miata Edoga... If you could have any other job outside of the arts what would it be? What is a bucket list role or show you still hope to do one day? Who do you look up to? A mentor or someone who inspires you. Name a lesson or trait that took you awhile to...

Jan 10, 202011 minSeason 4Ep. 2

Miata Edoga - TV/Film Actress & Financial Coach with Abundance Bound

Miata Edoga is the President and Founder of Abundance Bound , the premiere financial education company for actors, artists, and creative entrepreneurs. She created The Artist’s Prosperity System, which has provided thousands of creatives with a specific, step-by-step process to significantly improve their financial situation – giving them more time, energy, and freedom to focus on their creative careers and artistic pursuits. ** To join Miata in her MASTERY LEVEL FINANCIAL EMPOWERMENT PROGRAM, g...

Jan 08, 20201 hr 3 minSeason 4Ep. 1

A Look Back at 2019

Welcome to the 2nd Anniversary episode of the podcast! And what a year it has been! We’ve had wonderful guests from actors and singers to stage managers and artistic directors. And this episode is a look back at some of the best moments from the past year as well as a look ahead to what’s in store for 2020. There’s a mix of previous released conversations and new clips never heard before now. I share clips from the popular Audition Stories episode, and then I highlight and critique the very firs...

Dec 28, 201939 minSeason 3Ep. 22

Artists Striving to End Poverty / ASTEP with Samantha Manfred (Spotlight)

ASTEP was conceived by Broadway Musical Director Mary-Mitchell Campbell and Juilliard students. It’s goal was to transform the lives of youth using the most powerful tool they had: their art. Today, ASTEP connects performing and visual artists with youth from underserved communities in the U.S. and around the world to awaken their imaginations, foster critical thinking, and help them break the cycle of poverty. ASTEP is deeply committed to empowering individuals who suffer from an absence of cho...

Dec 18, 201945 minSeason 3Ep. 21

FINAL FIVE: Mike Isaacson

Welcome to another FINAL FIVE Bonus Episode! These are the five questions I'll be asking each guest all season long, as they give concise and and focused insights not covered in our main conversation. The answers given are surprising and revealing, showing another side to Jenny Stafford... If you could have any other job outside of the arts what would it be? What is a bucket list role or show you still hope to do one day? Who do you look up to? A mentor or someone who inspires you. Name a lesson...

Dec 13, 201911 minSeason 3Ep. 20

Mike Isaacson - Artistic Director of the Muny on the Challenges of Producing Broadway Musicals

Mike Isaacson has led the Muny for almost ten years and shows no signs of slowing down anytime soon. In this episode he shares not only the challenges of producing 7 musicals in 10 weeks each summer, but he also opens up about his Tony Award winning Broadway ventures, Fun Home and Thoroughly Modern Millie. These shows almost didn’t happen, yet their eventual success proved that listening to your heart and to an audience are ultimately more important that listening to critics. Follow Mike on soci...

Dec 11, 201948 minSeason 3Ep. 19

FINAL FIVE: Jenny Stafford

Welcome to another FINAL FIVE Bonus Episode! These are the five questions I'll be asking each guest all season long, as they give concise and and focused insights not covered in our main conversation. The answers given are surprising and revealing, showing another side to Jenny Stafford... If you could have any other job outside of the arts what would it be? What is a bucket list role or show you still hope to do one day? Who do you look up to? A mentor or someone who inspires you. Name a lesson...

Dec 06, 201912 minSeason 3Ep. 18

Jenny Stafford - Lyricist on Writing, Collaboration, and the Day Broadway Called

In the entertainment industry, we are all essentially storytellers. But there is one among us who is the spark and drive of those stories...the writer. Jenny Stafford is a prolific lyricist and book writer with her work featured on and off Broadway as well as regional and children's theaters across the country. She has a lot to share about her own journey and what led her back home to Denver, Colorado where she found herself at a crossroads, not only in her career but in her life as well. We tal...

Dec 04, 201958 minSeason 3Ep. 17

Five Reasons Artists Have to Be Thankful (Bite Size Episode)

Happy Thanksgiving! We’ve all been with our families and gone around the proverbial table to say what we are grateful for. Well, it’s my turn and this episode is dedicated to YOU, who listen and follow and support this podcast. I mention a few listeners by name for their extra dedication to the WINMI community. Also, I go through 5 reason each of us as artists should be thankful this holiday season…and all year round. There are many reasons that hold us back or get in the way of our dreams, but ...

Nov 27, 201918 minSeason 3Ep. 16

FINAL FIVE: Misha Osherovich

Welcome to another FINAL FIVE Bonus Episode! These are the five questions I'll be asking each guest all season long, as they give concise and and focused insights not covered in our main conversation. The answers given are surprising and revealing, showing another side to Misha Osherovich... If you could have any other job outside of the arts what would it be? What is a bucket list role or show you still hope to do one day? Who do you look up to? A mentor or someone who inspires you. Name a less...

Nov 22, 20199 minSeason 3Ep. 15

Misha Osherovich - Actor and Filmmaker on Body Image and His Own Battle with an Eating Disorder

Misha Osherovich is a Russian-American actor, filmmaker, and mental health/LGBTQ+ activist. Misha's latest short film E.VERY D.AY is currently screening at festivals internationally. The film is autobiographical - written and produced by Misha - that gives the audience a look inside the minds of people affected by eating disorders and distorted body image. You can also catch Misha in AMC's new series NOS4A2 . He can also be seen in theaters in Warner Bros' new film THE GOLDFINCH . Follow Misha o...

Nov 20, 201959 minSeason 3Ep. 14

FINAL FIVE: Janine DiVita

Welcome to another FINAL FIVE Bonus Episode! These are the five questions I'll be asking each guest all season long, as they give concise and and focused insights not covered in our main conversation. The answers given are surprising and revealing, showing another side to Janine DiVita... If you could have any other job outside of the arts what would it be? What is a bucket list role or show you still hope to do one day? Who do you look up to? A mentor or someone who inspires you. Name a lesson ...

Nov 15, 20199 minSeason 3Ep. 13

Janine DiVita - Broadway Actress on Maintaining the Voice and Surviving Under Pressure

This is part two of my conversation with Janine DiVita. Last time was a Spotlight episode on her work with the USO Show Troupe. In this episode she and I dig into what drives her as an actor and singer, the choices she’s made in her career, and how she maintains a work/life balance since getting married. Janine opens up about going to therapy and how it’s helped her focus on what truly matters, especially in auditions. She also shares what is was like filling in for Idena Menzel in the Broadway ...

Nov 13, 201947 minSeason 3Ep. 12

USO SHOW TROUPE with Janine DiVita for National Military Families Month (Spotlight)

November is National Military Families Month, and in honor of that I have Janine DiVita joining me today to talk about her work with the USO Show Troupe in New York City. Now when most people think of the USO, the first thing that comes to mind, understandably, is the legendary entertainer Bob Hope, who first performed for U.S. troops in California in May 1941, just a few months before the Pearl Harbor. But the USO is certainly much more then any one celebrity. It’s mission is to strengthen Amer...

Nov 06, 201931 minSeason 3Ep. 11

Megan Hoxie - Actress in Norwegian Cruise Line’s FOOTLOOSE on Scene Work and Taking Notes

As I’ve mentioned since the beginning of the season, I’m currently in a production of FOOTLOOSE on Norwegian Cruise lines. And so on today’s episode I’m talk about the show and the process of putting it together now that we’ve opened here on the ship, Also, joining me is fellow actor Megan Hoxie who plays the role of Ariel in the show. After that conversation I answer a listener question about cruise ships and resumes. Reach out with your own questions or comments at contact.winmipodcast.com . Y...

Oct 30, 201953 minSeason 3Ep. 10

KU Talent Agency and Artsplosure with Terri Dollar (Bite Size)

Welcome back to part two of my conversation with Terri Dollar. In the previous episode we focused on STAR, her program working with special needs theater artists in Raleigh. Normally this would be another Final Five episode. However, after our initial conversation about her work with special needs actors I had a lot more questions about the other work that she does. So today in this bite-sized episode we chat about her talent agency and what she looks for in actors she represents as well as how ...

Oct 25, 201928 minSeason 3Ep. 9

Terri Dollar - Arts Director Working with Special Needs Actors in Raleigh

If you ever feel like you can’t do something or or get down about hard this business is, then this episode it for you (and me). Terri Dollar shares her own story of working with special needs actors in Raleigh, NC. She talks about the commitment and dedication they put into each class and performance and how hard she pushes them to do their very best at all times. You’re bound to walk away from this episode with a greater appreciation of the work we do as artists and how it can truly change live...

Oct 23, 20191 hr 1 minSeason 3Ep. 8

FINAL FIVE: Lauren Kennedy

Welcome to another FINAL FIVE Bonus Episode! These are the five questions each guest will be asked all season long, giving concise and and focused insights not covered in our main conversation. The answers given are surprising and revealing, showing another side to Lauren Kennedy... If you could have any other job outside of the arts what would it be? What is a bucket list role or show you still hope to do one day? Who do you look up to? A mentor or someone who inspires you. Name a lesson or tra...

Oct 18, 20198 minSeason 3Ep. 7

Lauren Kennedy - Broadway Actress and Artistic Director on Auditioning and Being Your Authentic Self

Having worked with Lauren Kennedy at Theatre Raleigh on BRIDGES OF MADISON COUNTY, she joins the podcast today to talk about her transition from Broadway back to doing theater in her hometown of Raleigh. From her time growing up and studying theater in college to landing her first Broadway show and ultimately deciding to direct, Lauren shares her own experiences in auditions and what she now looks for on the other side of the table. It's a great conversation about the business and how she found ...

Oct 16, 201946 minSeason 3Ep. 6

FINAL FIVE: Bret Shuford

These are the five questions I'll be asking each guest all season long, giving concise and focused insights not covered in our conversations on Wednesday. If you could have any other job outside of the arts what would it be? What is a bucket list role or show you still hope to do one day? Who do you look up to? A mentor or someone who inspires you. Name a lesson or trait that took you awhile to learn or one that you are still learning to this day? What’s the best advice you’ve received? Today, B...

Oct 11, 20196 minSeason 3Ep. 5

Bret Shuford - Broadway Actor and Life Coach on Being Sober and Dealing with Our Inner Critic

Bret Shuford has dedicated his life to creating theatre. Most recently, he played Robbie in Cirque Du Soleil’s Paramour . Other credits include Broadway shows, national tours, and principal roles in feature films; including Martin Scorsese's The Wolf Of Wall Street . As the Broadway Life Coach , Bret helps people find their full potential, get clear about their purpose, and create balance and self-confidence. He also gives us all a chance to be a part of his FIVE-DAY BALANCE ON BROADWAY CHALLENG...

Oct 09, 201951 minSeason 3Ep. 4

FINAL FIVE: Caroline Bowman & J. Harrison Ghee

The very first FINAL FIVE Bonus Episode! These are the five questions each guest will be asked all season long, giving concise and and focused insights not covered in our main conversation. The answers given are surprising and revealing, showing another side to both Bowman and Ghee... If you could have any other job outside of the arts what would it be? What is a bucket list role or show you still hope to do one day? Who do you look up to? A mentor or someone who inspires you. Name a lesson or t...

Oct 04, 201913 minSeason 3Ep. 3

Caroline Bowman & J. Harrison Ghee (Part 2) How to Handle Criticism and the Importance of Recognizing Your Gifts

Welcome to Season Three and part two of my interview with J. and Caroline! These two Broadway performers join me to share their own journey to the Great White Way. We also discuss how to deal with detractors, handling disappointment in auditions, and finding confidence in being yourself. Caroline Bowman has played Elphaba in WICKED, Eva Peron on the EVITA National Tour, and is Elsa in the current National Tour of FROZEN. J. Harrison Ghee has performed in Tokyo Disney, Norwegian Cruise Line, and ...

Oct 02, 201932 minSeason 3Ep. 2

Caroline Bowman & J. Harrison Ghee (Part 1) Their Broadway Debuts in KINKY BOOTS and Leadership in a Cast

Welcome to Season Three! These two Broadway performers join me for three episodes to share their own journey to the Great White Way. We also discuss the pressure of playing a leading role, handling criticism, and knowing who you are. Caroline Bowman has played Elphaba in WICKED, Eva Peron on the EVITA National Tour, and is Elsa in the current National Tour of FROZEN. J. Harrison Ghee has performed in Tokyo Disney, Norwegian Cruise Line, and taken on the role of Lola in KINKY BOOTS. In fact, this...

Sep 30, 201944 minSeason 3Ep. 1

Broadway Closings and Listener Questions (Bite-Size Edition)

A surprise bonus episode this summer...I just couldn't stay away! And also introducing the first-ever listener question. - First and foremost, I'd love to hear from you and get your thoughts on this podcast. Share what you love and especially what bothers you about WINMI episodes or the blog or the online presence. It's all fair game in the Season Two Feedback Survey: survey.winmipodcast.com - There's also been a slew of Broadway show closings announced recently. By summer's end 16 shows will be...

Aug 07, 201917 minSeason 2Ep. 45

Ben Davis - Broadway Actor and Singer, Tony Award Honoree

For the final episode of Season 2, Ben Davis joins me in St. Louis to talk about the life of an actor on the road and in New York. His accomplishments on Broadway and elsewhere are many and magnificent, from his award-winning turn in La Boheme to the epic leading man in BBC's Kiss Me, Kate . His journey is both inspiring and instructive in what it means to make it. "Davis' seductive baritone is swoon-worthy." -Fran Scheck, The Hollywood Reporter Follow Ben on Instagram and Twitter and see more o...

Jun 24, 201958 minSeason 2Ep. 44

Ethan Paisley - Filmmaker, Director, Producer and Speaker

Audition season is winding up here in New York City as we prepare for the summer months. I hope you have some good plans for the summer. For myself, I will be doing a couple of shows: one in St. Louis the other in Raleigh. My special guest today is also keeping himself busy. Ethan Paisley is a writer, producer, and director, with a TV series this summer on DVD Netflix called Set Life . Other projects include the feature film .453 which is on Amazon, two films that have screened at the Cannes Fil...

Jun 17, 201950 minSeason 2Ep. 43
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