Dr. Mindy Pelz

had such a tremendous impact all my life. I saw her on a podcast and her energy was so infectious and I was so blown away by what she was speaking of when it comes to hormones and health, and I was like, I must know this woman. So she has been a part of my life now for I guess the last four months and has changed my life completely and is still walking me through the process of detoxing and hormone balance and nutrition. She's just an amazing woman.

And who I'm speaking of is the wonderful doctor Mendy Pelts. She is a renowned holistic healer, practitioner, and expert on the benefits of fasting. Her revolutionary book, The Menopause Reset, with her five step approach, has empowered hundreds of thousands of people around the world to harness their body's own healing abilities and overcome hormonal issues anxiety and depression. Her informative YouTube videos have garnered over fifteen million lifetime views.

You guys have to go watch her. She's hysterical and in short, Dr Mendy is a powerhouse. She truly is of information and innovation when it comes to understanding and harnessing your body's potential, and she is on a mission to inspire us all into optimal health. On today's Holy Humane, Dr Mendy, thank you so much for coming on my podcast. I'm so excited. I talked to you daily. This is just like an extension. It is I have never had. I've never had someone who's been by my side in

my health the journey when it comes to you. I've had wonderful people by my side with mental health and that you really encompass all of it from mental, spiritual, emotional, physical, But I've never had someone for my physical health like really be as in as all in as you are. And I'm just so so grateful You've changed my life. Thank you. It's truly the pleasure is mine and the way you take information and you apply it without hesitation is just profound. So the joy is equal on my

side as well. It's the journey has been really fun. Thank you. I don't know if I would have been able to take that information and apply it and have the desire that I have for my physical health at any other point in my life. But at thirty nine, I came across your book them in a pause reset just to give people some backstory. You know, I'm thirty nine years old, and I was like, Okay, I'm about

to hit I'm going I think I'm in perimenopause. I remember one of the first questions I asked you was like, am I imperimenopause? It's the million dollar question. Yeah, exactly. I'm looking into my forties and I know a lot of people who listen to this podcast are in the same boat. And I'm wanting to feel good as I

shift into a different stage of my life. And when it came across your book, I started to recognize the things that I was going through at the time, mood swings in my cycle, like really having these bouts of anger and sensitivity to sound and light, just so many different things. Depression, anxiety like could that be coming from other places that I had yet to touch upon? And so finding your book was this eye opener for me

to be able to see a different future. And it's taken you know, we've worked together now for about three months, and it's I'm just now starting to wrap my head around the possibility of a whole different life. And that's what I want to introduce women, and I mean everyone to to what could be going on in their bodies, from toxicity to how we go into menopause, to all

the things. So, which is my favorite saying, and I my favorite thing about you is you have this powerful mission and I would just love for you to introduce people to what that mission is and how you kind of stumbled upon your deep desire for for your mission. You're you're going deep first, Uh, it's become a mission because it was uh some painful years for me. After forty um or, I really hit a wall with my

health and it kind of sideswiped me. I the story that I always tell is that at forty I had one goal and one vision for my health, and that was to fit into my skinny jeans. And I actually the funny part of that story is I always wanted to fit into a pair of Hudson jeans because they had the little like flaps on the back. Um, but my booty didn't really look good and um so anyway, So I had that goal, and so at forty I did everything I could to be in shape, and I

hit it. At forty three, I was a different person. I still fit into my skinny jeans, but I was waking up at night and sweating so bad that I had to actually get my husband out of bed and I had to change the sheets. I got to a point where it was so habitual that by the end of the night I would actually put a sleeping bag and sleep in the sleeping bag and just get the sleeping bag drenched and just like wash that. The next day, I had depression so bad. I had never really understood

what depression was. I always say that I came from a lemonade family where we made lemonade, lemonade out of lemons. That was what I was trained. But I would be like driving to my office just crying, just crying, and I didn't really understand why, Like I just didn't get it, and then anxiety kicked in, and then honestly, um that like suicidal thoughts. I got to a point where I was like, I can't live in this body. I can't live in this mind. I don't know what's going on

with me. So I started asking around to try to figure it out, because I was doing all the things, and um, I felt like one am I missing? And everybody I talked to, you know. I went to my closest friends and they were like, oh, buck up, little camper, because this is very menopause and this is the hell we've been going through. And I went to my mom, who said I didn't have any of those things. I went to my big sister, who said, yeah, you should

probably get on antidepressants. And I didn't really want to do that. And so one day it was at the science fair at my kids school and I was standing next to, you know, another mom who was an o B. And I turned to her and I was like, I'm so sorry to talk shop right now, but I'm struggling and I really need some help, and I'm wondering what

you would do with these symptoms. And I told her, and she turned and like looked right in me in the eye, and there was something the way she looked at me, and she said, mindy, I have a practice full of women like you, and my medical textbooks have failed me. And I don't know what to do, and what are you doing? Then she flipped it on me, what are you doing for the women in your practice?

And I left that night the Science Fair and I thought, if it's happening to every woman, there must be something environmental I'm missing. There must be something I'm missing. And so the mission was really born that night to find a solution for myself. And once I found that solution, and there were really five things that I started to unwind in my life that weren't working for me. Once

I identified that mission, I started to feel better. I just thought, every woman needs to know this, and the thing about you and being thirty nine and coming to me at thirty nine and what I think is such an interesting manifestation. The way this all worked out was once I wrote the book, once I put it out, Once I heard so many women in their forties going

through problems I heard. So I've heard so many women in their fifties that still they've been in menopause for a decade or longer and they're still having the symptoms. I was like, I gotta scream this from the rooftops. And so the mission is to give people hope and give women their power back. We give our power away all the time to people, to drugs, to doctors, and my mission is to teach people how powerful their body is and that they can be in control of their health.

They just have to figure out their own path. And it's a unique one, which is the hardest, and you're experiencing that for sure. Yeah, it is unique and so intricate at the same time too, and it's you have to be patient, and it's like, you know, for me, it's like learning myself on a whole new level. And you know, when it comes to menopause, you know the things that I was told and my mom still tells me, it's like once you hit forty, like everything goes downhill

from there basically. And it's like, wait, like you're saying you feel powerless. You're like, okay, so I'm just supposed to succumb to aging and all the things that I think for me when I think of that that come along with that, like less of a woman. I'm not going to be worth anything anymore because I'm older and I can't produce like I mean for me that there's so many levels to that production piece that you know, I can't produce anymore, and you know what happens after that.

And I think there's just been so many the stories around menopause and the stories around aging, especially for women, are so negative, Like it's just there is no hope, you know, not until I've found your book and your take on everything that I I think that there was any hope. I kind of and I think a lot of women out there just you almost like you don't want to face it. You kind of put it off, you know, at thirty, and I'm like, I still don't want to look at the fact that I want my

mom to be wrong. I think she's wrong about a lot of that, and at the same time, I think she's right about a lot of it. And so it's something that we all at my age, I think want to we don't want to have to look down that barrel. But it's right there. Yeah. I I feel like what happens to a lot of women in their forties, I call it an extreme sport. My forties was an extreme sport,

and my twenties and thirties were so gone. Yeah, well, let's see, this is why we're doing the work now, so your forties don't have to be Because I can tell you fifty rocks like, now that I've done done all the work on my own self, I like, I really, at fifty two feel happier than ever. But but it's because of the work I did in the forties. But to your point about not having answers and women bitching,

that's what I found. And I, you know, as much as I joke about my friends who were like five years older than me, saying oh yeah, you're finally hear you now know why we've been all crazy? Um um, I just couldn't accept that as an answer. I didn't feel like I was supposed to go downhill at forty. If if you look at how the human body was made, it's designed to thrive until twenty. So are we meant to go, you know, start falling apart at forty? Are we meant to go be depressed like this for the

rest of our life? And the answer is no, So my heart, this is a large reason why I'm trying to reach as many women as possible, because I think about how many divorces happen. I think about how many relationships fall apart. People change jobs because their women are not in their best self, They're not in their best place. Um. So it impacts everything for women once they hit forty. You mentioned earlier there were five components of your life that you started to unwind. Can you talk of a

little bit about what those five pieces were? Yeah, So the first one was, of course fasting. I went and started looking at hormones, and so I looked at what happens to estrogen um as we go into the perimenopausal years, and estrogen does this wild ride, like she goes up and down and up and down. And when estrogen goes low, we become insulin resistant, which means a k A. We start gaining weight, like we're eating the same foods, were

exercising the same amount, and we're gaining weight. I started to look at what we're ways to help with insulin control, and that's when I stumbled upon intermittent fasting. And I don't know if I've ever told you this story, but you might find this funny now that you know me. The first time. The first time I found intermittent fasting, I literally had to study the science forever and I had to look at it. I'd wrapped my head around it, and then one day I decided, Okay, I could do

this for a day. Let me try it for a day, right, And so I did, and I was like, look at me. I did thirteen hours for a day. And then I went back and looked at what everybody was doing and I was like, oh, we do it every day. Shoot, we gotta do this every day. So um, but what I found with fasting that was my that was my principal. Number one was that three pm energy crash that I would have. And in my clinical practice, three pm was

like when the families poured in. It was like the busiest time and I literally just wanted to go into my office and take a nap. And what I found was just after two weeks of intermittent fasting, my my three pm energy was incredible. The other piece that I found with fasting was memory and mental clarity. So my the joke and my family was that I would always stop in the middle of a conversation and my family would say, we're still listening, Like we're still listening, why

are you not finishing this story? And it was because I couldn't remember what I was saying. And um, so intermitting the first one is inter fasting, and it was really it gave me my mental clarity back, and it gave me my energy back, and then of course from there I became a fasting fanatic at that point. So as you're learning, well, let's go down that road of fasting um for a moment. So why don't you explain so intermittent fasting. I've been intermittent fasting with you now

for about three months. My husband did it for a while years ago, and I was like, this fasting thing. I love food too much. There's no way I could ever fast for twenty four hours like I could by the way which I did my first twenty four hour fast yesterday. But the way that you've taught me how to fast has been really amazing because I think there's so many misconceptions around fasting. I thought there was only one way to fast. You basically go without food for

however many hours, and that's called fasting. There's so many more layers to that. There's different types of fast you can do. Like yesterday, I did fasting snacks which were actually really good. I had almond butter and bone broth to help repair my gut yesterday and I didn't feel I didn't feel hungry, which was amazing. So can you start to explain an unwind for us, like a bit of science behind fasting and why why it's so important for someone like me, someone who is heading into perminopause

and menopause and and wanting to live their best life. Yeah, that's a loaded question. Um, so I'll give the I'll try to give the concise answer, which which is if the best way to understand fasting is to go back and look at how the cave women cavemen did food and what we did, our cave people ancestors did. Oh, I gotta love that. I'm gonna start using that our

cave friends. What our cave friends did is they would come out of the cave and they did never refrigerator, they didn't have a pantry, they didn't have door dash, and so what they would do is have to go hunt. And in order to survive, they had to tap into another energy source. And we call that energy source the keytogenic energy source. I like to lovingly call it the fat burning system. And when the when you go without food, these neural chemicals kick in that supercharge you. And it's

all because we were made for survival. So they had to go hunt, they had to go find food and so as they tapped into this fat burning system, they made keytones. They got growth hormone, they got gabbo which calmed them, they got dopamine, like all the things, all the wonderful neurochemicals. They got all the good things so that they could go hunt and make a kill and then come back and then they would feast. This is how we're designed. Were genetically designed this way for feast, famine,

cycling in and out of sugar burner, fat burner. But if you look at what we're doing every day, we eat all day long. I mean I was the breakfast is the most important meal of the day. I was the person that carried the snacks. This this is pretty funny because now if you if I go anywhere, I go without anything, I'm like, oh just fast, um. But I literally had like a bag of snacks with me everywhere. I'm not there yet. You're not there yet. Yeah, yes, I mean I think that that is It's amazing to

hear because we're not taught that. We're not taught that this this is genetically what we're made for. We're taught to get the big mac with the biggest drink possible and to eat you know constantly. I don't even know if any of us know when we're hungry anymore, because do you know what I mean? Because oh yeah, I noticed yesterday my twenty four fast. I noticed when my body was hungry, because I did get hungry at some point, and that's when I had my little bit of snacks

here and there. But at around three thirty in the afternoon, I was having to make a really big decision, and all of a sudden, I wanted to reach for everything to put in my mouth, to eat, drink, whatever it was. I was like, I need something, and it was just interesting to see how emotionally driven I was for something

to in jel best in order to soothe me. I know I could have gone and reached for arm and better, I could have reached for whatever it was at the time, and I stopped myself because I'm like, I'm not hungry. I finally started to see where my real cues of hunger were, which is huge because I think we all do it. We all emotionally eat, and we're it's all on the spectrum of some of us really lean into that to suite ourselves, and sometimes some of us do it in a way that it's not as obvious, and

so yesterday it was for me. I was obvious that I was like, oh I need that to soothe. So fasting for me has been really interesting to learn my actual cues of hunger. All right, we're going to cut away for a quick breath, but we'll be right back with more. Dr Mendy. All right, everyone, Dr Mindy and I were just diving into the multifaceted topic of hunger and what it represents. Yeah, I say, it's a mirror. It helps you see what you need, what your relations right.

And in many ways, I mean, you're a great example of when we fast you, we see a lot of things and that show up and that's for everybody. So our relationship with food, what we don't realize is that it's a state changer. It's a dopamine rush. And to your point of we don't we're out of touch with even when we're hungry or even what foods we should eat,

Like we've completely lost touch with that. But this is where if you think about it, like think about what you were taught as a little kid, Like you get up and it's like okay, eat breakfast. You get home from school, Okay, eat, eat again, like your mom is constantly there with snacks, or you're constantly told when to eat. It's dinner time. If you don't eat dinner now, then you know there's no more dinner. So we get from an early age tuned out of our own innate sense

of hunger. And you know, if there was one thing I could do for the young your generation, it would be to really help them see their intuitive sense of when they're hungry and when they're not, because that gets beaten out of us. Yeah, it does. It's amazing that you put it that way of beating out of us because literally, like that has been, yeah, the case for a lot of people. I remember when I've discovered fasting. One day, I was chasing my son out the door.

He was in ninth grade, and I was like, your banana, you're yogurt, Like you can't leave without food. And then I came back inside and I'm like and he wouldn't take it. And I came back inside and I'm like, what what am I doing wrong? Like I went into I must be a bad parent because I can't get my ninth grader to eat breakfast. And so when he came home that night, I said, are you hungry, Like I feel like maybe you're not hungry in the morning. He said, no, I'm not. And I'm like, well, when

do you get hungry? And he said ten o'clock. I'm like, okay, how about we make sure you have good food at ten o'clock. And that's what we did, and then I it changed everything, and he was intermittent fasting without even knowing he was intermittent fastening. So the haf for me was, gosh, do we not know our own internal like sense of

food and even what good food is? And how should we feel after a meal like we are because we're told three meals a day breakfast is the most portmeal a day, eat dinner or the kitchen's clothed like all those things seemed to permeate so many households. Yeah, for sure, I was that way as a as a kid, like I didn't want to eat breakfast at all in the morning.

In fact, I didn't eat, and I hated school lunch like I didn't like soggy sandwiches, and my mom packed like and so I actually I really fasted my whole childhood until like three o'clock world around, and then my my mom would go get me awful drive through um. Of course back then I didn't know it was like that was food. Um. So so much, so much has changed for me for my first time yesterday, I really got into quytosis and I got that kind of dope.

I guess it would be dopamine, right that my I got, you got, you got, got all the good you got, all the good things I did. It was I'm like I was boxing vindy, going am I supposed to be high and giddy? Like? Is that what happens? And it's you know, the same things that we think that we're doing with food, like can really naturally occur in our body in the right state, which is fascinating to me. I think that has been the biggest piece for me to even wrap my head around after I've looked at

so much science on fasting. Is that the leap we need to take first is to understand that food is medicine. And you hear a lot of people talking about that, and that's great and wonderful, But the second leap we need to take is fastings medicine too, and they're different medicines. So when you eat the right foods, you heal and when you fast, you know, depending on how long you fast, you're also going to get this neurochemical healing effect. And I think to your point a little while ago, when

people first come to fasting, they get scared. It's scary, you know, it's scary to go without food. It's a primal feeling. And what I love about it, and this was my high yesterday watching you, was that you experienced your body in a new way. Yeah, and so all those chemicals, all those yummy feelings that you had, like you did that. And here's what's really cool. You did it. I didn't do it. I just I just gave you

the information. Nobody can do it but you. So there becomes this awe of the body and the self pride. And I have taught fasting to so many people and now to so many women, and nothing brings me more joy than people discovering their own power. And we have in this country, in this world, we give our healing power away every flipping day. And that was a cool moment for me to watch you discover a whole another level of how cool that your body be and what

it can create. And it is euphoric. So yeah, it is. It's just crazy. So so with fasting there I mentioned earlier, there are different types of fast can you like touch upon those for a moment, because I think when people think of fasting, like we're saying, it's like you go

without food and that's it. So people are curious if they're fasting, Curious, how would you describe fasts with all these different fasts, and what would you recommend for people to kind of like as their springboard to get curious about it and see see what we're talking about as concisely as I possibly can. Because this is like a whole dissertation on today. It's actually a whole book now m seventy eight thousand words worth, um, so just put it down at a couple of sevens. I don't think

we have that kind of time. So here's the way to look at it is start by looking at your twenty four hour period and say, okay, there's a time in which I eat and there's a time in which I fast. I call them windows. So there's an eating window and there's a fasting window. So the first step is what we call intermittent fasting, which is thirteen to fifteen hours. This is the most famous. This is kind of the big, big studies that have been done on it.

I mean there's so much research. In fact, if you're listening to this and you're like, I don't believe this, I mean, literally go to my YouTube channel. I put science after science after science in there. There's so much science. I can't even keep up with it. So, but what happens when you take your eating window and you compress it, leaving thirteen to fifteen hours of no food, your body heals. And the biggest thing it does at that point that

I'm excited about is it changes every metabolic marker. It changes cholesterol, it changes glucose, insulin, hemoglobin A one C c RP. These are major cardiovascular challenges. This is diabetes, this is poor immunity. They say that like only twelve percent of Americans are metabolically health That's crazy, that's horrible, that's crazy. I remember hearing that for the first time

and being completely blown away by that. I walked around for a whole day going wait, what, like, yeah, you know, and a lot of us look healthy too, Like we can look healthy right and not really be healthy. Like I remember putting my blood sugar monitor on for the first time. I've been wearing this on stage, people like, what do you have on your arm? Like, I'm just trying to trying to better my health. I love it.

You know. Really getting a sense of like what foods spiked my blood sugar and seeing really really where I was was huge. It just gave me more knowledge of my body, which I think it's amazing. I think if you put a blood sugar reader on every single person, you would change that twelve percent number because you would

see what food is doing to you. I first came across that steady twelve percent metabolically fit at the height of COVID, so it was like June of and then I dive into the connection between poor immunity and metabolic syndrome and poor metabolic health and talk about a mission that I literally like, this is when I started to like not shut down my practice, but I told everybody in my on my team, I'm like, I'm out, I'm going online to start to really educate people about metabolic

health because this is what's going to support the immune system. And fasting is free and anybody can do it. So you can take the poorest of poor, and you can take the busy CEO guy and you can teach them how to fast and now you've changed that twelve percent and you've turned it in hopefully someday. When you say metabolically,

what do you mean by that? Typically, metabolic fitness is a couple of things, because to your point, you can't really look at a person and say, oh, you're metabolically fit. In fact, you would probably I could probably line up like five body builders and you would say, oh, they're all metabolically fit, but they're not. So. Metabolic fitness means you have to have a normal glucose level, which fasting

is between seventy and ninety. You have to have normal insulin levels, normal hemoglobin A one C which is glucose and insulin over ninety days it should be under five um. You've got to keep your inflammation markers down. Blood pressure is a part of that, so blood pressure being down, Waste circumference is a part of that. B M I is a part of that, and fatty liver is another one, and all of those markers need to be normal. Like so think about this. Blood pressure needs to be normal

without medication. So you've got to have a healthy liver, healthy healthy blood pressure, Your blood sugar needs to be balanced. And really I think the biggest indicators can you go without food? Because if you can't go without food and you're angry all the time, I'm your hypoglycemic. That's also an indication that you are metabolically unhealthy. M it's not just having hyplod sugars. Also, to be table blow sugar two is not meta metabolically healthy. Interesting and the ability,

the ability go in and out of food is really key. Yeah. Absolutely, And you talk about switching from fat burner into sugar burner, which is really kind of also a key to metabolic health. Yes, yeah, so you know it's funny. I just want to just say that I was the person that if you didn't feed me, I was going to take you down to me too. I mean, like they it's a joke. Everybody around me who works with me is like, if you feed thee and shall be just fine, it's right. Yes,

If not, we love is use right. And here's where you're going land. The next thing is to say, you're gonna be like, don't feed me, because when you feed me,

I slow down. When I don't, when you don't feed me, I become euphoric and my mind gets really clear well, and I think it's it's both right, because yesterday as my with my fast, I felt really good and I also was kind of it was kind of alarming to me in a good way, but it was such a new experience for my body that I I'm like, I didn't know I could feel this euphoric and good and joyful. It almost flipped me into anxiety for a moment because

I was like, what is this feeling? And then I kind of sink back into it and and I was like, this feels really good. And then as soon as I ate my first spite of food, I was like, oh my god, I love food. So it's so it's both. It's like which is great. I think that that's super healthy for me, you know, and anybody who's fasting to be I don't want to. I don't want to ever not not love food, you know what I mean, Like that's in me, and I think I think I now

have a really healthy relationship with food. And it's changed so much in the past three months from intermittent fasting, because I think a lot of the time food was driving my life and I mentally I thought I couldn't be without food, and so to get to know my body in that way to know what it can do without food and what it does with food has been and with the right foods, It's not like I'm just

breaking my fast and eating crab. You know, I'm filling myself and I've learned to fill myself up in the healthiest ways. And so I feel like my whole relationship around food has changed. And the way I know when you know, when I first started working with you, I'm I'm counting calories like I'm sure tons of women do, and You're like, oh, we'll get you off from counting calories.

I mean, I still I still watched my calories, but and at the same time, I'm much more I'm much less stressed about food because I know I'm looking at food as medicine and what's good for me. And at the same time, I've I looked at food for enjoyment, but I still am enjoying. I'm enjoying taking care of myself. I think that's what shifted for me, is that that feels like joy to me now is like really taking

care of my body. And I think that's also taken a lot of reprogramming mentally to recognize that I am worth taking care of. I think you need a mic drop on that one. Yeah, I'm out. Yeah, I don't even know what to say to that. Um. That was brilliant. And I think fasting is a gift you give your body, and if you can look at at it as not something you're taking away, you're adding in your giving your

body this gift of repair. You're giving your body a gift of neurochemicals that you have never experienced before, and you don't have to pay a dime for. You're giving your body a healing opportunity. And when you do that, you really thrive. And the thing that I think for women, especially that we I just we I really want us to get a hold of this is that our health

doesn't just affect us. It affects everybody around us. So when we're doing everything for everybody else, when we're putting everything ahead of our health and then our health crashes, nobody wins in that. But when you put your health first and you learn to fast, and you learn to eat right, and you make your health a priority, you become a happier person. You become a more solid, mentally clear person who now is a better mother, a better friend,

a better wife, you're better at your job. It is the biggest gift that I know we can give ourselves and the people we love well. And it also trickles down. I've watched my husband, you know, like he's watched me, and now he's he's wanting to jump jump on board. He's like he's wanting to do all the things now because he's seeing I mean, such a change in me in my mood, in just the way that I'm connecting with life in a different way now, um in my body.

And I think when we start to take care of ourselves, but we don't realize is if they so choose, you know, to want to be on that journey with us, we're influencing the people around us. And so for me, it's I've been setting an example almost in my in my own home for like what my bench market health is.

And I think the people around me have been going, oh, you know, what are you doing you because they're I'm really changing and like the best of ways, and I want to be as I head into forty, like I look forward to this new decade as being the most vibrant that I've ever been. And you will be, I absolutely agree. I mean, you and I have talked about this. I love decade turns, and when you turn into a

new decade, you get the opportunity to do things different. Uh, there's something about a clean start with a new decade. But yeah, by the time you're forty, we've got a few months ago. I can't even imagine where you'll be at. But but to your point, you know, one of the things that I hear a lot of women say is, well, how do I get my husband to do this? How do I get my kids to do this? And I just say, be the change. The Gandhi quote is one of my favorite ones. Be the change you want to see?

You just be it and they will follow because you become so in love with the body you're living in that it becomes contagious. Yeah, and that's really the goal of health for people. Yeah, absolutely, that's so huge. I've seen you say that before, and I've really taken that in of The goal is to love our bodies. And I think for me, I've done a lot of mental work around that, but not until I actually started to embody the ways in which I take care of myself,

which fasting is one of them. To really tune into what I'm ingesting. You always talk about interference in health, removing the interference, which I think is huge, and I look at so many interferences in our lives. I mean from heavy metals too. I mean, I know that that's a big part of my journey is, you know, removing heavy metals from my body. And gosh, I look at my depression and anxiety, which I know has yes system

from many many things. Um, but I've I've worked so much on it, and here I am still left with, you know, this anxiety on a daily basis. I've learned to work with it, I've accepted it. But I know when I say that, you're like, no, this is not going to be a daily occurrence for you now. And which was crazy because I didn't think about heavy metals in the body, like I didn't think about that being

a piece. I haven't completely had the whole of me in the picture yet until I started really going down this path of how do I clear the interference in the body so that maybe these everyday not sleeping anxiety, depression, like whatever it may be that I'm sure a lot of people are feeling, those things don't have to be in everyday occurrence, but we've we've kind of accepted them as they're just part of being human, which is sad, but they don't have to be and we will discuss why.

Right after this quick break Welcome back, my friends, we were just talking with Dr Mendi Peltz about why so many of us have accepted illness as our inevitable state. It's super sad that it's something I often say is just because it's common, it doesn't mean that it's normal. And I think we have really accepted poor health as being normal. And with the heavy metal one, and that's definitely one of the five is that And this was a big one for me. This removing heavy metals gave

me my sleep back. Removing heavy metals gave me my brain back. The depression and anxiety went away, all of suicidal thoughts like all that went away when I removed heavy metals. And we are living in the most toxic time in human history, and it's not getting any better, it's getting more toxic. And so what I often say is we have to have strategies for detox like now every human on the planet, and if we don't, then our moods will suffer, our sleep will suffer, our relationships

will suffer. So the interference is such a great concept because I feel like my message and I think this is what you're really starting to understand, is that we're perfect, Like we're just amazing this body we've been given, it's just amazing. And if you do not feel like it's amazing,

it's because something's interfering with its power. And it could be a physical interference, like you're sitting too much, or maybe you have an injury, or it could be a chemical interference like a toxin like heavy metals or you know. And I've chatted about WiFi, and I mean all the things it could be. I mean, there's so many. It's a depressing topic of what chemically is interfering with us um. And then there is the emotional interferences, the traumas that

show up and when the symptoms appear. It's easy for us to say, well, I was in a car accident, or um, I used to eat really bad and now I'm eating good um, or I sit all day at work, and we can blame the outside, but what that doesn't really get us very far. I think the better discussion is to say, I live in this perfect body. Its ability to heal is profound. So why do I not love living in it? What is interfering with my joy, my perfection, my energy? What's interfering with it? And that's

a personal journey. As you're experiencing, everybody's got to find their interference is going to be a whole lot different. So and that's the hard part. That's where I wish I had a cookie cutter approach. But I do believe that the way healthcare is going is a lot more customized, a lot more personalized to each individual. There is no longer a one size fits all because everybody's interference is different.

It really is about educating ourselves and it is a journey, and I wish it wasn't, Like I wish we could just like I think that's why everybody wants to pop a pill, right because it's no one wants to it's easier and it's way easier. And I, you know, and I totally get it, Like I don't. I don't want

to spend it. I don't want to spend a gazillion hours like I have been like tossing out beauty products and tossing out like cleaning products and like literally, I've you know, I've gone through and made lists of everything that's in our house and I'm like constantly tossing plastic and all the things. And it's it takes a lot of time and in work, and I wish it was easier, but it's not. And it's I think that's where it

comes to. You're saying, you know, love loving the body that we're in, Like, we have to start with I am worth doing this for. I am that my family is worth it. And I think that's where it begins, is with that belief of like, and unless we believe that, like, we're not going to put the time into taking care

of ourselves. Bingo, yeah, another mic drop for you. Um yeah, I think the worth has to be you have to love yourself enough, and you have to also say that you want to get up in the morning and enjoy this body suit that you get to carry around all day. Like. The goal isn't the thing on the scale. The goal isn't even the blood test, you know it. The goal isn't your doctor saying your normal, or or a friend complimenting you on how great you look, although all those

things are great. The goal is do you wake up and love this body. Does it feel good to move around the world in it? Does? Do you love the brain? Do you love the way that your brain is thinking? Because if the answer is no to either of those, and you can change that. But the problem is it's only you, only you can change it. And that's what's really hard, because it's the mirror effect again, where we we look and we have to look at ourselves in the mirror and say, okay, am I going to take

the steps to change it? And that's really what we need. It's a personal decision and it's a personal journey. But once you make it, as you're experiencing it, you can be I mean at fifty two and literally some days, like my daughter's twenty two. She'll turn twenty two next week, which is crazy. I don't even I don't know how I have a twenty two year old daughter and um I'm I told her, I'm like, I feel stuck at twenty five. So pretty soon you and I are going

to be the same age. It is with the wisdom of a fifty two year old. So but but I didn't I wouldn't have said that at forty two. So it's it's the work that I had to do to kind of make a commitment to my off to love my body so much that I was willing to do whatever it took to take great care of this vessel I get to walk around in. So you've mentioned fast thing, you've mentioned heavy metals. What are I want to touch upon? What the other three pieces are that you started to unwind?

The second one was food, So we can talk about food. And the simplest change to ask yourself is are you eating nature's food or are you eating man's food? Because it's the processed food that is killing us. So the second thing is I had to ask myself that, like, am I only eating nature's food? Now? The answer for me at that time was yes, I had a really clean diet, but I hadn't really experimented with the keytogenic diet. I didn't really know what it meant to feed my

hormones and how to eat for my cycle. And so I had to dive in and look at and and you and I have talked about this that how to eat for different hormones. So, like estrogen does really well with the ketogenic diet, So low carb estrogen is like, thank you, I'm gonna now come in really strong, and testosterone actually does really well when you feed, and estrogen

as well. When you feed your microbiome and you eat a lot of leafy green vegetables and a lot of um what I call the three ps polyphenol, probiotic, prebiotic foods, a lot of fermented foods, you actually fuel your guts so estrogen and testosterone can can break down. And then progesterone. This one tripped me out because progesterone actually wants you

to bring glucose up. So you want to actually not do keto, and you want to eat more root vegetables and potatoes and beans and kein uan rice is those are going to fuel progesterone. So the second one is really learning how to eat for your hormones. And that's what I talked about in the Menopause Reset. The new book has a ton of that in there. The thing on this that blew me away, And tell me if you if you felt this as well as you learned it. It was like I never realized in a thirty day

period that I was supposed to eat different. Every diet I had ever been on just said go on this diet and be there forever yeah. Absolutely. It's been the coolest thing for me to learn to eat for my cycle because I actually enjoy eating now, Like I enjoy cutting back when carbs at the beginning of my cycle, and then I enjoy putting carbs back in, and then you know, I don't think twice about eating carbs when I when I know my body is using them to to make the hormones that I need at the time.

And so that just gives me. I'm like, oh, I'm feeding my body what it needs. I need. I can eat the carbs, I can need all the carbs, nature's carbs of course, not like crap carbs, you know. And then when I go back to eating and that how my fill of carbs, and then I know, okay, so here's here's the beginning of my cycle. I'm ready. My

body is going to make estrogen. So now I'm gonna feed it all the fats and like the protein that it needs, and then in the middle of my cycle adding ton of greens and like there's there's a specific way I'm utilizing food that I know is fuel and I know I've educated myself on what it's fueling. And so for me, that's just like I love that kind of stuff because it's like, oh, now I feel now, I really feel in It's not even in control at all.

It's more of just I feel knowledgeable and I feel like I'm doing something good for myself and that feels good. Like that feels nurturing. I know. We that's big. I've been a big word that I've been using for for me that I I think when I first heard the word nurturing, I'm like, whatever, nurturing, And now I'm like, oh, nurturing. It feels good. It's like when I've heard the word rest, which I want to dive into really good because I know rest. This is a huge one for all of

the type of personalities listening. Um Mendy and I we we are the same, um and yeah. And to you know, I'm constantly going, constantly doing and recently I was sick with COVID and I don't think until recently I actually surrendered.

I think illness for me was a huge lesson. I am in gratitude for it because it was the first time I surrendered to I can't push through this, like I feel like absolute shit, like so bad, and I have no energy and my whole life I've spent overwriting having no energy because I had to just get up and work, and as do so many other women, it's like I have to take care of kids, I have to have a job, I have to create the thing that I'm wanting to bring into the world. Whatever it is,

we push past it. And this was the first time I understood what rest was. And I actually found myself the other day going, I like resting, and which is really I know? I actually said, I like resting. I know I'm gonna start taking little snippets of your I do. I I enjoyed resting for the first time, and I think it was because I will two things you've taught me, and I think this is huge. It's a reframe for a rest and you've taught me what the body does

in rest, like why I need it. And so once again that education for me was such a huge reframe because now my productivity brain can be like, oh, I'm actually doing a lot as I'm resting, As I'm sitting here on the couch with my blanket with my candles lit, my body is doing so much. And I think for for me that was a huge reset in mentally around rest and gave me an opportunity to to enjoy it for the first time. Oh my gosh, another mic drop for you, leanne Um. That's amazing. And I would agree.

And you know, as you and I have talked to, I know the rushing woman personality. And it's hard to surrender when you know it means not doing things and you're a doer. And I do believe that our neurology gets so accustomed to go, go, go, go go, and when you sit on the couch, the brain says, wait, why are we here, what are we doing. We're supposed to go, We're supposed to do, and it's a really hard thing to unwind, and so many women have it.

I think I told you this story, but I remember, at the peak of like my menopause symptoms, I have a Rosie the Riveter sign in my kitchen and I was always so proud of Rosie. I was like, yeah, like, I'm like Rosie, I can do it all. And one day, in my darkest menopausele moment, I walked past Rosie and I looked at her and I was like, man, Rosie, like, I think you got it wrong. I think you got it wrong. I don't think we're supposed to do it all.

And about that time, a friend amy the book Rushing Woman Syndrome by Libby Weaver, which everybody should go read. And it was a biochemistry of how a woman's body is not designed to rush all the time. So it spoke my language. It was like I could I could see it. And when I read the book, I literally wept. I understood myself for the first time, like, wow, okay, so I can't use rushing as my badge of honor anymore. It's actually not serving me. In fact, it's making me sicker,

it's making me less productive. I gotta change it. But as you're experiencing, that's a hard one to unwind. It is a hard one to unwind. And I was I was just thinking as you're saying that, like we're going into a forties, we're going into perimenopause, menopause, and it's like, okay, now I'm thinking I'm not going to be able to produce, and then you're telling me to slow down, and it feels like, oh, she's right, Like it all of a sudden feeds into all of those old stories of I'm

not going to be myself anymore. I'm not going to be good and if I'm not gonna be able to do enough, and unwinding those stories, I feel the anxiety come up in me as we talk about it. Talking about it, yeah, just talking about it. Unwinding those stories are a super important part of I think, how we are able to to head into this stage of our life as we shift sanely I meane you sanely yeah, and and joyfully. And you know, I would like to

think that there is a way too joyfully be in menopause. Yes, yes, I feel like, yes, I'd like to think that there is. Yes. The rest is one of those pieces that we have to start to look at, like are we are we really giving ourselves rest? One of the things that you've taught me to. I just want to touch on rest because I think it's a it's thing is such a huge piece, and it's a huge piece that I'm just discovering. You were saying the other day that you don't have

to be sitting on the couch to be resting. You know, you talk about switching with fasting, our body is supposed to switch from fat burners sugar burner, and then the same thing with when we're resting, and you know, we're shifting from sympathetic when we're when we're doing and to parasympathetic when we're resting. And when I think of rest, I think a lot of people do think of like we have to sit on the couch and do nothing, watching Netflix or whatever we're gonna do. It just has

to be horizontal. Um, And so you're like, no, no, rest can be anything that just doesn't put you in the in the sympathetic state. So you can You were saying you love to bake, which I was like, Oh, I like to do that too. I like to go for a walk. I like to as you said, like to forward move. And I just that hit me too. Of oh, so we can still do we just can't do do right. For me when I think of that, it's about we can do the things that bring us joy. To me, that's what I hear, is like, Oh, what

brings me joy? What allows me to get into this kind of flow like creating candles for me? Is I get into like this really parasympathetic state and so relaxed because it's just kind of this I guess monotonous isn't the right word in a good way experience that I have, And so that was so cool to hear for someone and anybody out there who's like, oh I can't stop doing, you just don't have to. You can still do. It's

just a different kind of viewing. Yeah, you know, have you ever seen I actually almost said this to you today. Have you ever seen the meme where the woman's like lying down and and it says, um uh, they told me to use lavender to calm myself down. She's got like lavender like all over her body. Have you seen that? No? I haven't. Okay, I'm gonna send it to you, because every time I see it, I'm like, that was me.

I was like all my friends. You know, many of my friends were like, mindy, you're doing way too much. And yes, I do way too much. There. I still do way too my but but I've learned to practice parasympathetic like you and I've been talking about. But the first time somebody said to me self care, I literally didn't know what that looked like. I was like, I don't know what self care looks like. So I would sit on the couch and try to read a book.

I'm like, well, this sucks. I'm just sitting here, and then I would sit and binge watch a you know, eight hours on a Netflix series, and then I'd get up and I'd be like, I don't think I feel any better. I mean it was interesting, but I don't think I feel any better. So when I read read defined it the way you just said it, which is what brings me joy, what is gonna put me in that gamma state of my brain where I am just loving the moment that helped me see that parasympathetic could

just be things you enjoy. And on the baking thing, I don't. I don't think I actually said this to you yesterday. But I just love baking. But I don't always love eating it. So sometimes sometimes I do. But during the pandemic, my son, he was a senior in high school at the time, and I would I would say, what do you want me to make on Sunday? And I would just make whatever you want to make. It would take me like two three hours. I loved it.

It was like I felt like my mom a heart was full and then it would be done and I was like, yeah, I don't know if I want to eat it, but it was sure made it. I love it. I'm the one that like licks the bowl of everything. Yeah so good, so not so okay. So we touched upon the rushing woman. The rest we've touched upon heavy metals, touched upon food, touch upon fasting. What's the fifth one that you unwound? The fifth one is your microbiome gut health. This was the one that took me a while to

try to kind of figure out. And here's why so many of us have been on rounds and rounds and rounds of antibiotics, so many women have been on decades of birth control, and our gut bacteria is really in bad shape. And these back tier you, these microbes in our gut, they do so much for us. The biggest thing they do is break estrogen down. We literally have a set of bacteria. They call it the way I pronounced it is estro bolom and it is a set

of bacteria in our gut that breaks estrogen down. And if you don't have that bacteria, estrogen won't get broken down. It will get stored in your tissues. And typically where it gets stored first is in our breasts, and then it'll get stored in fact. So what I started to see is that if we were not being very intentional about our gut health. You were going to gain more weight. A lot of women have breast tenderness around their cycle.

Breast cancer is a piece of this. This This was actually why I even took the time to write The Menopause Reset, because I realized that of breast cancers happened after menopause, and I started to think, oh, well, maybe that's because they haven't we haven't been breaking estro and down. But your gut microbiome also makes gabba, It makes serotonin, it makes dopamine, it makes all the amazing arrow transmitters. And if you're not feeding these microbes in your gut,

then they die. And if you've been on antibiotics and birth control, they've been already been killed and there is an opportunity for you to regrow them. So the fifth one is really leaning into the things that that really regrow your microbiome. And there's lots of them. I mean, you and you and I've been talking a lot about bone broth and how powerful bone broth is, especially to break a fast, because it it will repair the inner lining of the gut. I didn't love Saara Kraut when

I first learned this fifth tip. But I've forced myself to love Saara kraut. I do a lot of fermented yogurts, but it's also the nuts, the seeds, olives, and even things like dark chocolate, red wine. Every woman loves hearing that. Oh and that too. Yes, but you have to be careful with wine. I just want, like just to touch

upon that. Is it dry farms wine that we live so it's called yeah, and just help me a lot about wine because there's so many chemicals that can be sprayed upon wine and even if it says organic, it could not be chemical free. So yes, yes, I highly recommend that everybody go dive into the world of wine and understanding that piece of it. Um, if you like wine, because I do and you do it, and I didn't want to get mine up completely, so I knew, you know,

to educate myself on all of these things. Um, you know, to know what you're putting in your body is super important. But yes, dark chocolate, yes, absolutely, and we are absolutely going to be right back with Dr Minnie Pells after this quick break. Welcome back, my friends. Dr Mindy was enlightening us on the powers a dark chocolate. No like dark chocolate. I I probably have a little like thing of dark chocolate every day, if not every other day.

It's good quality. It's like dark chocolate with um. The one I'm into right now is Hugh do you have those? Yeah? And the little gems. Have you tried the gems? They're they're too easy to pop in your mouth, but they're really good. And so after dinner I'll pop a couple of my mouth. When I was writing the book, oh my gosh, those little gems set right next to me. I've practiced breaking a fast with them, and they're really It's dark chocolate is health food, and it's the darker

chocolate with like the healthy sugars um. And so that's a gut repair, believe it or not. And wine, if you drink biodynamic natural wine. Not we're not talking like a bottle every day, but we are saying that a glass here and there of a chemical free wine could actually be a positive benefit on this gut microbiome it has. The dry farm only gets wine that has natural yeasts in it. It's a fermentation process onto itself, and they've tested it all for chemicals. It's the chemicals that make

you feel hungover. It's the chemicals that make you sick. So you know a little bit of dry farm wines can go a long way and it brings down your cortisol levels. I've actually have you tested it on your glucose monitor? Yeah? My, Um, if I have a glass of wine, my glucost Well there wine, my glucost goes down. Does other wine? Does it go up? I've seen it go up on not so much. Um, it'll it'll go up. It will go down. Yeah it won't. It won't like skyrocket, um,

but it won't go down. I find that when I have a glass of of chemical free drywarms wine, it goes down, which is crazy. Yeah. So so my feeling is like, well if it goes down, that relaxes me. That would be good for progesterone. That's gonna let progesterone come in. And because you need to be more relaxed and cords all down to make progesterone. So yeah, and you know you can tell now once you get really

clued into good wine. When when I was in Cancoon recently, um, there was a bunch of wine out one night and I was with a bunch of my friends who all drink natural wine, so of course I'm just drinking it like like it's natural wine. And I woke up the next day with a hangover and I was like, oh my god, I've not had a hangar forever. And the first thing I was like was like, who who bought the wine? They bought the wrong wine. So totally it

is hangover free wine. That's funny. I've actually found um actually travel when if I go out on the road, I'll take a bottle of wine with me, and like if I'm only going for a few days, like I'll you know, stretch it out for a few days. If I want a couple of glasses of wine and I traveled with wine, I'll travel. I found meganic tequila. I will go out and just drink anything anymore. Like I'm

very busy as it's like what are you doing? I have a whole suitcase now of like of bio hacking and wine and things and food and yeah, it's I love it's a bit insane, but you know, I don't do anything half asked, so let's just put it that way. Yeah, that's what I love about you. It's you're all in. You're all in, and you'll do all the things, and you know, honestly, that's why you're getting well so quickly.

You know, I think that what I've seen with a lot of people, especially you hear a conversation like this, and you're like, oh, I want to get well. I want to feel like that. Um. But then you dip your toe in. You're like, Okay, I'll try I'll try the intermittent fasting, but I'm not going to do the detox. Or I'll try bringing carbs down, but you know I'm not gonna do nature's carbs. I love my crackers. So whatever it is, we tend to dip our toe in.

And depending on where you are on your health journey, if you are really in a place where you're like I have to make a difference and change my health, that is not a moment to dip your toe That is a moment to go all in and do everything you know how to do to be able to heal. And then once you do that and you'll see this, that then you have this strong foundation of health and

you can veer off and go on vacation. You know, you might not have to bring your wine, you might shorten up your your your suitcase a little bit and yeah, and you you can go eat you know, bread and pasta in Italy and come back and you will feel fine. And this is what we see in my online community. I love January so much because people, well when people were traveling, people would come after Christmas vacation and we get all these messages of like, I eat whatever I

wanted and I felt great and I didn't gain a pound. Well, those are the people that did the work. They got it, they got their body back into balance. But one thing we've been taught in healthcare is that, Okay, here's one problem, here's the die ignosis, here's the one solution. And what you're learning is that there's no one solution. There's a puzzle that needs to be put together for everybody. Yeah, and it's thank you for teaching me how to put

that puzzle together. And everybody please go look up Dr Mindy. Go get her book, The Menopause Reset. She has another book coming out. When is that coming out? Yeah? December? I know, fast like a girl and um yeah, I'm I'm excited about it in so many different ways. But um one of the ways was that when we actually put the book proposal together, my idea was to teach women how to fast and to eat for her menstrual cycle.

I wanted to show six different levels of fasting and I just really feel like this will absolutely change women's health. So when we rolled it out to all the publishers, um Hey House came back and basically said, we hear your mission. We're on this mission with you. Let's do this. And that has been my experience with them so far is they are equally wanting the book to be in as many hands as possible, and it will be the first fasting manual for women. There has never been one written.

There's a lot of fasting books out there, but there's never been one customized for women. So it's a really cool, cool book. That's amazing. Well, I am living proof that what you are preaching is true and and helpful, and so yeah, I highly recommend everyone. You. You have so much on YouTube and Instagram and you lead a group right through different fasts every month. Is that what happens? Yeah? So we started doing um When I first got on YouTube, people were like, this is really cool. Can we do

it together? And so I started doing fast training weeks And what that is is I take a five day period every month, and we practice different fasts, so I teach all different kinds and it's been really fun because we are seeing impacts of health changes in people who I don't even know and I've never spent a time at all with me, but they can watch my YouTube videos and go through this collective experience, this worldwide experience together,

and they can change their health. It's really like, what if I ever get a low moment, I just go and look at my my comments on YouTube and I read everybody's stories about how they got off medications, and yeah, it's really profound. And then I have a a membership group where I teach people how to build what I call a fasting lifestyle, which is how do you eat, how do you fast, how you like what you're learning, how do we go in and out of these different

fasting and food states. Um, And that's really the first start start is getting into that fasting lifestyle and understanding the rhythm for you. So that's what we teach them my membership group. Amazing, Well, thank you for your passion, thank you for what you put into the world. And I always ask my guests. I have this thing called the Holy Five, which are five of your favorite songs that could be from your lifetime, be what you're listening

to recently. But um, of course, music being my thing, I always love to hear what people are listening to. So what are your holy five? Okay, my holy five? This is a hard one, by the way, and I'd like to say five is a little a little limiting. Um, I feel like the ones I didn't pick are getting left out, so it's okay, we could do it again. Okay, okay. So number one is if there was one band and one album that I could listen to over and over again,

it would be Fleetwood Mac Rumors. So my number one song was my wedding, our wedding song, which is songbird but the School and I love love like never before. Yeah, it's that one. Like it's not a great wedding song. Let's just say that because you can't really dance to it. Um, but it really like typified when my husband and I connected how we felt about each other. So the first

one has to be a songbird. Um. Okay, second one, this one I listened to my whole life and then I didn't really like realize what it meant until I hit thirty because I started to listen to words and I was like, oh my god, this is exactly what life feels like a thirty and it's the Logical song by Super Tramp. Oh my god, I know this song. I don't know if I know that song. Maybe I just don't know your name of it. Basically like they taught me to be sensible, they taught me to be logical.

They sent me away to teach me how to be practical, and it's about following the rules of life and how that kind of sucks and that we actually should should not get caught up in that. You're gonna love it. I'm so excited to listen to it. I love it. Okay, I taught you a song. Okay, you did. Thought's a that's huge, that's a. That's a mic drop for me. Um. So the third song, Okay, this one actually is I think fairly recent. Um but it's like my parenting philosophy

and it's Ablaze by Atlantis Morrissett. Oh wow, I don't know if I know that one either. Oh my gosh, I love her. She's amazing. I've learned a lot from my guests with musical choices. I'm like, oh, I don't know that one, So yeah, I love it. Okay, So Ablaze. Actually, the cool thing about Ablaze is I think there's a line in it that says, my goal was just to keep the light on in your eyes. And the first time, yeah, and the first time I heard it, I saw Atlantis.

It was during the pandemic and Atlantis. Morrissette was holding her two year old on the Jimmy Kim Show, but all everybody was in a different studio because it was the pandemic. And so she's singing and her daughter's trying to grab at her, and she's singing a song about how she's just trying to keep the light on in her daughter's eyes, and it's a it's a really touching song. Then she's sort love your hue and your blues, comusure, you're comusic, gulls away, my amused to keep. That's beautiful.

That has to be number three. Okay, number four. Okay, do you know tom O'Dell. I don't know tom Odell. Oh my gosh, Okay, So tom O'Dell. His song Grow Old with Me is the next phase of my husband and I his life, and it's basically about growing old together. But his whole album one of you know, I went to Spotify and did is this is tom O'Dell? That got me through, right, I listened to it every night while I was writing. But grow old with me, that's

that's something going ship. I love it. I love that you you have it's like the thirties, what you're parenting, your next phase of your life. I love that there's all these like pieces that I don't know, there's these like marker points that which was what I love about music is that there's always a song for like those market points in our lives. Yeah, right, and that's kind of how I yeah, when the words and the and

the music come together. Okay, fifth one you definitely know and it's super cheesy and it is the song Like my friends that are listening are gonna be like, oh my god, Mindy does so your song? Um, it's the song when it comes on that I turned into a rock star and start dancing around and singing. And if you do that with me, then you need to leave my presence. Um yeah, oh no, it's right. It's uh. It's Total Eclipse of the Heart by Body. Total is

that your Can you do a cover for on that? One. Please, I might just have to do that just for you. Please. I would love that. It is literally my favorite song and everything else to stop and I immediately have to belt out every word and the people that join me and that become my best friend and that's amazing. Okay, well, you know you and I've never met in person officially, so would we do? I think we might have to

go find a karaoke bar and sing that song. Oh my gosh, I think I'll do it, although we're gonna turn my mic off, your mike on, No, no, you're going to be joining in. We'll get some Dry Farms wine going, and then we'll sing Total Eclipse of the Heart. It is a little bit of one of those songs that I can't hold back, so you would have to bear with my voice. That singing is not my superpower, but that song brings me so much joy. So yes, when we officially meet in person, we will do karaoke

Dry Farm and Bonnie Tyler. That sounds good. I love it. Well. Thank you for sharing, thank you for your time, thank you for educating us, thank you for sharing your passion. And I'm so grateful for you, thank you, grateful for you and excited for you and thank you for being you know, saying it to the world what you're doing. I think you know you you have the opportunity to really show what it looks health and action looks like. So I'm I'm grateful for you and thank you so

happy our paths crossed me too. Thank you so much. And that wraps up this episod oat with the fantastic Dr Mendy Pell's again. Her book which has truly transformed my help is The Menopause Reset, and you can access tons of her helpful videos on YouTube, Instagram. You can find her basically everywhere. She's amazing and I promise you will be blown away by the impact the information she shares will have on you in so many ways and

so many different aspects of your health. She is truly a wealth of information, So go tap into her because she's Yeah, she'll change your life. And don't forget to share your thoughts with me in the comments where you listen. Of course, I love hearing your feedback. Thank you for joining us. On the next Holy Human, I'll be joined by best selling author and profound life coach Martha Beck. This is probably my favorite episode so far. This woman

is amazing. We will be discussing the game changing insight she shares in her latest book, The Way of Integrity, finding the Path to your True self and trust me, you do not want to miss this. You guys, take care of each other, love you, See you next week. Holy Human with me Leanne Rhymes is a production of I Heart Radio. You'll find Holy Human with Liann Rhymes on the I Heart app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get the podcasts that matter most to you.