What's up fam? Happy? Well, that's good Wednesday. Everybody. I hope you're having a good week, but per usual, it's about to get so much better and for real. You're all going to be so excited. Because every time I've ever said, who do you want to have on the podcast? This girl gets tagged over and over and over again and we finally made it happen. We have the influencer YouTuber, podcaster, mom, wifey, all the things. Devin Cordle on the podcaster. Welcome, girl.
Hi. Hey, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here. Gosh, we're so excited. I'll just tell the people listening because they were in on this previous moment, but my team was so excited to have her on that they were like, can we tell her high? Hi. So, you're loved and appreciated by so many and I'm so glad we're going to get to have a little chat. Yes, I am so excited looking forward to it. I can already feel like the Holy Spirit movement
and how he's just going to move in this conversation. So I'm so excited. No, truly, that's like the best whenever I jump on these calls and you know, it'll be like six minutes in. We haven't even pressed record yet and we're already having a good conversation. I'm like, okay, this is this is good. This is really good. Yes. Well, I got to ask you the question. I ask everyone who comes on the world. Let's go podcast to kick us off and then we'll just have a fun
conversation. But kick us off with the best piece of advice that you've ever been given. No pressure. Oh my gosh. Oh, I should have prepared for this because I know you ask all your guests. Oh, and I'm having pregnancy brain. So I'm like, oh, that's real. Yeah. Oh my gosh. You know, the funny thing is about pregnancy brain is I think it just stays with you and then becomes mom brain and you just thought just go whew. Yes. Well, if we need to circle back
and you want to sit at the end, you can. Okay. I can just put you on the spot and the first scene that comes to your mind. Okay, first thing that comes to my mind. I think it's because I'm pregnant right now. So it's going straight to being a mom. And I would just say that every child's different. So don't count on other people's parenting. It's good to seek wisdom in their parenting
and advice and all that. But you'll know your child best. You'll know everything they need because I truly believe that God gives us that gift as mothers is to be able to know how to pour into our child's life. Even though it's so scary. So just to trust your own instincts. Yes. Not depend on the world to give you all the answers. How to be a mom. That is honestly so good. And I'm glad we put you on the spot. As you say, the first thing that comes to your mind because
that is so true. I think that I always told my friends that because I used to have that like anxiousness, you know, about being a mom and like making all the right decisions based off of what I've heard and the methods and the this and the that. And then it's like so stressful. And you don't want to make their own decision and all this stuff. And then I just had this revelation at one point that's so simple. But so profound that I am their mom. God made me to be their mom. He
created me to be their mom. And he's equipped me to be their mom. So I have everything in me through him that I need to be the best mom to them that they can have because I am their mom. And so it was just just took the pressure off. And that's what I was talking about friends like you're their mom. You're the best person for the job. You're the best person to do the job. You're fully equipped for the job. And your your kid. Yes, your situation is going to look different. Your lifestyle is going
to look different. We always talk about that with our kids because they stay up late. And it's just funny because some people are like, Oh, I can't even imagine you should do this or this or that. And I'm like, yeah, but they travel all over the world with us. And it is so nice when we have like late flights or late nights at conferences and all this stuff that they're able to be there and enjoy it. And you know, so that works for our lifestyle. But I would never tell somebody else,
hey, you should keep your kid up this late because that would be crazy for your lifestyle. So you're so right. And it's actually true too. And because you're pregnant with your second, right? Yes. So have a little boy. I have a little girl IV. She just turned three. So is it honey? Yes. She'll be three in May. So they're super close. They're so close. Yes. That's so, so I'm so excited. I love that age gap. I was scared to do two under two. And funny story. Me and Hunter
thought we were done after I we were like no more kids. One and done. But God just works that way. He said, surprise. Yeah. Well, it's cool to be as your advice is true for your second kid. Like that's what really surprised me. I mean, obviously new. They were going to be different. But just how different is really amazing. You know, our whole thing here is like live original.
And I think when you have two kids, you get to see just like the beauty of originality and how God really does knit each one in their mother's womb to be an original, you know, made in his image, but an original person and Haven is so different than honey in every way. Like with the whole sleep thing, even Haven just goes to sleep on a schedule because she just does that. We didn't and I remember the first time like when I started putting her down and she wouldn't cry. And I
would be like, what? Like what is this? You just don't cry. You just go to sleep. Whereas honey, it would be like an hour and a half at least of like singing, reading the book, rocking, doing the thing, try to put her down. No, try again. Nope. And so it's just crazy how even every different kid is different, even your own. And so that's such a cool piece of advice. And I'm glad we started with that. And actually, I think I saw somewhere that you said, you were worried to
have any kids at all or maybe didn't even want to have kids. So talk a little bit about that shift in your heart from going to not wanting to have kids to now be in front of it with your second. Yes. So I was, it was in the heat of COVID 2020. And Hunter and I had been together for a long time. We were high school sweethearts married right after high school. So we wanted time, I guess for ourselves. And you think, well, you already had time, but it's so different. Yeah. And I think just
being in the world, seeing everything, it was scary. I'm like, how do you raise kids in this world? How and I know now looking back, it was really the enemy just put in that on me. And I got advice back then saying, you know, if we're, if you take the light out of the world, there's not going to be any light. And so as a Christian, and I had to really pray on that because I knew it'd be my responsibility
to raise a child in this world and how the heck do you do that? Right. Be a good disciple and raise tiny disciples. And so I just had to pray about that. And it really, it was God because my heart was so sure that I didn't want kids because I was terrified. And so in Hunter 2, we were on the same page. And that's another cool thing about how I feel like it just will line because our hearts changed
at the same time. And so code would happen. And so then in the midst of chaos and think then you'd be like, well, no wonder you didn't want to have kids, but we didn't want kids before that, but then that happened. And so in the midst of the chaos, we had such a piece about it. And that's how I know it was from God because from the world, you're like, you really shouldn't want kids now because you don't know what's going to happen. And I don't know, just over time, it was like this one
specific month. We were just in prayer. I was fasting about it. And I just had this shift. It was just a piece. It was so unexplainable. And I'm like, it's okay because he, she is going to be his before he, she is mine. And it's, yes, it's a great responsibility to raise a tiny disciple. You could say, but ultimately, as long as I'm trying my best, to do my best and praying over their life and doing the best I can do, God's got them. And God's going to take the lead because
and that just took pressure off of me. And to know that I don't want to take light out of the world if I can bring it into the world to share more about Jesus and all of that. And you know, and I'm still working through that process. Me and Hunter talk about all the time, like, okay, now every milestone, she's two now. She's three and we can see she's getting older, getting more of a personality. And it, you think about the future and you hope and pray that she still loves Jesus. And we'll
always love Jesus. And so those conversations are still had, like, okay, how do we do this? How do we be a disciple to her? And then him. And so yeah, but ultimately it was just a piece we had. And we're just trusting him to do what he wants with their life. And we can only pray that we're doing the best job we can. So good. I'm so thankful we're talking about this because um, one time in a podcast, I think I was interviewing, or actually maybe it was just conversation with my
mom. I can't remember because it was a sisters and friends episode. And I said something along these lines of like, you know, I was worried to have kids, but like your kids will be the light of the world. And I kind of said it's similar to what you're saying. And it's one of our most viewed reels on Instagram from this podcast because so many moms struggle with this thought of like, I'm so afraid to raise kids in this dark world. But as Christians like our response to that is
this idea of like, no, you are called to be at the light of the world. I love how you said, like, I don't want to take like, I want to bring light in. And we need more light and more disciples of Christ. And it's really cool because I've been, um, I was reading John 17 and I literally wish I had my Bible with me right now. Oh my gosh. I literally do have a Bible. It's amazing. Listen, I love John. We did a, I did a deep dive in John a few months ago. And it was so,
so good. Oh my gosh. It's so good. If you're listening to this podcast and you haven't read John or haven't read it in a while, I highly suggest going to read it again. Um, but John 17 is an amazing, um, part of scripture because it's Jesus praying and it's, uh, Jesus praying for himself, Jesus praying for his disciples. It's extremely powerful. Um, but let me find exactly where I'm going because literally I can't even believe I had a Bible. I mean, this is so perfect.
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them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. They are not of the world just as I am not of the world. Sink to fight them by your truth. Your word is the truth. And I love that so much and I thought about that with our kids that Jesus is praying and he's saying, you know, he's kind of he's talking about the hatred in the world, the bad things of the world. I'm not of this
world. All these different things and he prays that his joy would be completed in us. He he prays that we would know the truth but he also says, I'm not praying that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one as they're in the world. And then he goes on and he prays for us to know how much the father loves us. He prays for us. He literally says,
I pray for the generations to come, you know, who are going to believe this word. And it's just like so amazing because it's a beautiful thing as a mom and as a dad to pray these things are rare kids. You should be praying these things are rare kids. It is scary to live in this world but even Jesus is saying as a son of God who was sent into a world that is evil that was going to hate
him God as a father had to allow his son to go through that. Interesting that what his son was going to accomplish in the world as the light of the world was actually going to give us the path
of eternal life. And so in the same way, we're sent in the world to be a light of the world and to to give people the good news of Christ in this good news that you can have eternal life and it just love that Jesus is literally prayed for us that we would have joined the midst of the whole thing that we would know the truth that we would know the love of God and that we would stay in it even though the world's not going to understand us even there's going to be hard things but that
we would stay in it so that we would be that light. And so I just love that we're talking about this because I know I'm like man it's comforting. It's so comforting because it's like this is not this is not like a new thing that like people are scared as believers to be in the world. Jesus is literally straight up saying like this is a dark place like the evil one is here but his response so that was not take us it was God be with us God strengthen us God give us joy in the midst of it
God give us anchor in your truth God give us the understanding of your love and God keep us here but protect us from the evil one so that's your prayer for your children that they would be protected from the evil one as they're in a world that is not going to understand the beliefs that
they have got anchor them in the truth you know give them a joy that's can play help them to understand what it means to be loved by you and help them to understand that you knew them before the foundation of the world began which is all the things that Jesus was praying so
so such a cool thing to to discuss because it's not something that we just have to like encourage ourselves with by like these loose words it's like yeah this is literally in the Bible yes and like Jesus was how you said like Jesus was sent into the world and it already was
such a dark place even then yes and I feel like I find myself saying that's just getting worse and worse and I feel like every generation is saying that yeah but obviously having social media and all that doesn't help because it's like blasted out there so you're like whoa it feels like a lot
worse than it used to be yeah but the stories in the Bible I mean it's always been so corrupt and sinful and evil and that's because the enemy is real yeah and so that's comforting to when I think about God's it in his son his son was faced with what we're faced with today and to
some degree or the other and that his dad yeah protected him through it all yeah and in the world but not of the world again so that is yes I'm so glad we're talking about that because that brings me a comfort because it's so easy for me to start I'll be good for a few days and like
I'm just Lord protector you can feel joy even if things feel like they're going wrong yeah but to know that I think I'd pregnancy brain sorry I just want to tell you that completely best friends on the pie gas her news lady when she was pregnant and this happened to her like four
times she'd be like uh no literally filming my podcast I've had guests come on and we have to I'm just told I'm producer I'm like I'm so sorry I need we cut that was when I was the same way when I was pregnant it wasn't as much of the the pregnancy brain that got me on the pie gas it was
I could not breathe because it was mainly honey's my brain is too honey her butt was in my rib cage and I would have to have like stretch breaks I'd be like I'm so sorry but I can't read so I'd be like oh yes I know hosting a little bit the get comfortable it's just so it's just a thing pregnancy
um hosting a pie gas you're being identified as doing pregnancy is a very vulnerable thing I know I've literally told Hunter I'm like just please pray for me that I have better brain today oh my gosh I kind of love it though because it's like that's so real and that's what you do with
like your closest friends you know these like deep conversations and then like two seconds later you're like dying laughing because you know you forgot everything you were just about to say yeah so so sorry I know that was so I was it was such a deep thought to anyways basically just that Jesus
has gone before us he has been through all these things that I love that he can say it's okay up in there yeah you're gonna be good yeah and I love that like actually like the worst thing happened and it's still good you know what I mean like he died like he was crucified but then he's
like I'll hold the power you know and the keys to the grave so he resurrected and so that's what he can say like truly um you know you're gonna face trials in many times but take heart I've overcome the world so it's like with your kids you can know hey Jesus didn't say it's gonna be perfect for
them I'm not resting in the fact that their life's gonna be perfect because that's a lie like I'm resting in the fact that even when their life is not perfect that Jesus has overcome the world and that their hope is anchored to something that is beyond this world and into eternity and our
home and our hope is in that and so I think that gives you a piece too because I don't like I don't like fluff you know I'm like give me the truth like don't tell me everything's gonna be okay if it's not tell me that even when it's not gonna be okay God's gonna be with me you know like you need the
truth of the matter and so but it's cool though because even like how you said we're trying to raise little disciples and there's like pressure in that but I was reading this book this is an intense book but it's really good it's called tortured for Christ and it's about this couple
and they lived in a communist country I think they were in Romania at the time or maybe it was very close to Romania anyways um they it was extremely bad they were in prison for the sake of their beliefs multiple times and they had a kid and the kid just kept seeing them go to prison and
you would think that the kid would maybe not you know want to be a believer because they've seen their parent his parents like suffer for Christ um but he actually was like believed in God so much because he saw like the extreme conviction his parents had in their faith and so it was
really cool because at the end of the book the mom was talking about her kid and she was talking about you know even in a communist country where he's going to school and he's getting taught like all these things opposite from his faith she said I didn't worry about sending him to school because
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was preaching to gobbling she but she had no she's saying she said she said Cobbum you are a beautiful and she said in your god is beautiful and she was so funny I like that's good I was like that's a good word honey that's very inspiring yeah but I love that y'all are praying those prayers
are your family so take us back because you said you and your husband got married pretty young at a high school yeah how did you and your husband meet and how did y'all start dating gosh okay so innovate grade my sisters then boyfriend road dirt bikes and he rode dirt bikes with honor and so
it was we met through them mutually and we started dating innovate grade going into summer of high school went to separate high schools so at that age it was just more of a cheesy boyfriend or nothing it's not like we were set out to like okay we're gonna start dating to get married
our minds weren't there yet but it so we started dating and quickly things that I was going through my life I could see that Hunter was brought into my life at that time almost as I say it protected me from a lot of other things I could I can see how I could have went down a different path
than what I did if it weren't for Hunter being placed in my life when he was and there's so much it can there's so much many different stories to all that but so they didn't high school it got really serious quick more so we were just best friends and it was almost an escape from what I was
going through and so we just got hanging out a lot and all that about junior year is when it flipped and we're like okay if we want to be married one day we have to change our priorities because we were putting each other first and we started going to youth group and got really
involved deep into our relationship with Jesus um quickly after we graduated high school we got engaged like we knew right away I think being together that long we just knew and it just was so god ordained in that and it's so hard to say because we were so young and so even when young people
asked me I'm just like yes you know and you know but it's we also sought counsel we sought wisdom and it's not like people were telling us not to do it I feel like a lot of the people who knew us they were in support of it and so that reassured me like okay it's we're not just go my flesh
should be like let's get married down um so we got married year after high school and yeah so sweet I I heard somewhere you tell it about you're getting together and I think it's so funny because um tell about just like the text message you sent because I think that is hilarious
oh my gosh yes um face book I didn't know my phone like that was it was face book I so my sister I so silly I literally asked and I was like I'm gonna boyfriend I literally remember saying that like I want a boyfriend do you know anybody I asked her boyfriend and he was like um actually I do
I ride dirt bikes with this guy and I'm like okay let me go look at that so literally walk into the other room just look to my face book I was already friends with him and I thought it was cute so I unfriended him and then sit him a friend a different a new friend request and then a few
days later I don't know what I mean I'm glad I did now because I mean I'm very to him but I got his number and I'm like I'm not gonna text him I just want his number in case he texts me I'll know it to him and because I know that my sister's boyfriend was like speaking into his year about
me so I ended up texting him and I just said hey and then he said who is this and I just didn't apply because I'm like oh Leah look so desperate I unfriended him on Facebook and I'll send a text message a few days later I replied because he never said anything back and I was just like hey
this is Devon somebody gave me this number and told me to text who is this he started it that's hilarious and he didn't know that story until way later after we started dating that was so funny I love it so much because I always say this like I think people put so much pressure and like oh
like the guy has to pursue the guy has to pursue the guy has to pursue the guy has to pursue and I agree like I think that I think that the guy should pursue for sure but I think that like as women like you can give someone the confidence to pursue you like hey I like you you know and I just love
that you're like you know I just want to make sure he you know sees me over here let me just let me just reason that for me quit let me just send a little hey you know I mean it definitely worked because he said he saw the friend request and he saw my profile picture and he thought I was
cute and but he did say I thought I was already friends with her guys so funny hey it all already done perfect for sure I like how you said and you're junior year you all had this moment where you had to like shift your priorities yeah because you are putting each other first you know
there's a lot of people on this podcast who are new to Christianity or just the idea of like godly dating or godly marriage and what that looks like to put god in your marriage I think it's interesting because y'all are all I think were believers before this but then started dating and
had this moment where you're like okay we need to shift some things so what did that look like how did y'all recognize that y'all are putting each other first and what was the importance for y'all to make sure that god was first in your relationship yeah so when we started dating like I said it
was like I felt safe it was almost my safety net I could kind of escape reality to go hang out with him hang out with his family do whatever and I will say because I grew up Christian and he grew up knowing god but he wasn't raised in church like I was and so at that age easily we could have
fell in into the temptation to like romance you know what I mean and it was more of a scary thing so we did save ourselves for marriage but it started out of fear of just not getting pregnant not wanting to do the wrong thing because I was such a good girl didn't want to disappoint my
parents and all that and there was definitely temptations there and we the shift it's almost like I felt so the few years we dated and god was not first it ended up feeling empty it wasn't a even though we loved each other and loved being in a relationship with each other it wasn't
fulfilling us our cup and that's because it can't and so I realized a lot of toxic tendencies are coming into the relationship just jealousy whatever you want to call it because god was absent um and so there was a pivotal moment it was around junior year when he was struggling with his
own thing and I was having my own struggles and so it was almost like okay we're either gonna end it and break up and just go our separate ways or if this is something if we truly feel like we want to be together then something's got to change and it was we wanted we chose each other we were
like okay well we want to be together but what's what's wrong like what is not aligned and it was Jesus he was not first we had made each other our own gods so of course we disappointed each other a lot all those worldly fillings were coming in and we at that point I also have learned like okay
my of saving ourselves from marriage shifted from fear to know this is because it's a gift and it is such a beautiful thing inside of marriage and I wanted that and I had that desire to keep that but the way we were going I could we were almost there it's like there was a line and we it's like
just it's so clear it was like okay we choose Jesus or we don't choose each we choose each other and it's just gonna be a downfall yeah and and so we chose Jesus and so we got him up in church we went on like a mission trip and everything together but it was still so
individual yeah because we were know that our relationship with God had to be prioritized individually and then that would bring us closer and it did and it was such I'm just so thankful that that was evident to us at that point that we needed God first and doing that before marriage really
helped us in marriage and so that is something we always look back on even though we were young we were in high school yeah but it was such a big moment in our lives of wow we can really see what happens if God's not first and that stays true in our dating life in our marriage if God's not
first we're gonna just point each other we're gonna be feel more separate we're not gonna feel that's intimate close together and so yeah I'm just so thankful that that time happened so I could kind of see those sides of it depending on which season of life you're in sleep can get
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into the flesh and live according to my own will and probably get a go downhill from here um and when I say downhill that doesn't mean that you won't still you know by world standards be successful or do your thing but yeah just you're you might not have peace you know you might not have a true joy
you're the cup is not yet be full like you said or I'm gonna choose Jesus and no matter what life looks like I'm gonna be sustained by grace you know through faith and so it's like cool that you'll have that moment together in your lives and so now like y'all both have that back as like an anchor
point for you guys individually and each other which is just really sweet and really special and I think it's cool just hearing your story because it's a little bit similar to the idea of having kids where it starts with this fear based mentality and then switches to this like but God I trust you
at your word yeah yeah trust your plan is greater which is so cool because when God would come to people in the Old Testament um and he would call them to something he would normally start out the conversation by saying do not be afraid and the reason I think he always said that is because he
knows we're gonna be afraid yeah as he knows that the situation we're in is scary because in each person's life he would say don't be afraid he's talking to people who are in very scary scenarios but then he would follow up this advice do not be afraid with a promise in an anchor that I will
be with you and this is what I'm gonna lead you in and then the person would be able to say like okay like I'm with you you know and so it's cool because in our lives it's almost the same thing where God calls you to something and in the midst of that you're afraid you're dealing with the fear
of it feeling bigger than who you are whatever it is and then you have this realization that he's calling me he'll be with me and this is his plan and so that's what I want actually more than than my own will and so it's just really cool to see that thread in your story um so tell me about
whenever y'all went from um you know just be a married don't do you all live in Alabama is that right yes so like be married Alabama country country kids you know pandemic happens having a baby all this stuff to deciding to share your life with the internet how did that happen
that was a decision like in that process yes so same year I feel like the same time that God revealed to us like or gave a piece over us like it's okay you you know this is the time uh I will start trying to have kids and that same season it was hard in a way
looking back because I'm like wow a lot of stuff happened during that time of the piece we felt and it unexplained piece uh we were broke we didn't we were living paycheck to paycheck and I ended up getting pregnant and so I quit my job I had and my job was I guess you could say I was the bread
winner even though I wasn't making like a ton of money but still I made more than hunter in that and then so that was a trusting process so I was like okay I feel like I'm supposed to not work right now since I'm pregnant I couldn't wear all that gear I couldn't hardly breathe
but so hunter was a firefighter he worked a lot of overtime just so we could I could stay home and never made me feel bad about it he supported me and all that and I had always felt like I remember praying a lot of times about my future ministry and what that looked like in the workplace
I'm like where am I gonna work forever or what just what does it look like I don't feel like I'm gonna be a preacher or anything like that but what does my ministry look like in the place I'm working where am I gonna go am I gonna be a stay at home at mom now forever just all those questions
I but I knew it would be different I just felt like the call I had on my life was gonna look a lot different than what people would expect I guess and I loved watching YouTube videos back in the day and so we were actually on our baby moon and at this time I was home I wasn't working
hunter was working but we took off went to Gatlinburg Tennessee and I was like I think I'm just gonna start vlogging because I had that desire I wanted to make YouTube videos more so for memory so I be could look back at those one day I'd have those and I feel like that's one of my I don't
know if I would say gifts but just desires I just thought that was fun videoing editing I love that kind of stuff I love being creative it was like a creative outlet for me I didn't know what the heck to do but I got my iPhone I started video on my iPhone edited on my iPhone and I posted our first YouTube video and I just started vlogging a little bit here and there document in my pregnancy and it was always something that in the back of my head I'm like if this could ghostenware one day
where it would help us financially great but if not it's still fun I did have the hope that I was like maybe it'll be something I don't know and we got a few subscribers all that and then I kind of had Ivy and I just was new mom so I kind of like took a break from it and then our member posting
our birth vlog and it got a lot of views and I'm like oh that kind of just gave me this spark I needed to continue to do it me like okay I do enjoy this and then I started that and I ended up seeing it just wasn't still going anywhere and then I never had TikTok but I saw
Matt and Abby they posted a video about how they started YouTube and theirs didn't do good until they got TikTok and that helped it so I was like well I guess I'll download it and see what that's about so I looking back at old videos if you scroll all the way back it's kind of embarrassing
because I'm a very I guess you would say cringey mom content I know a lot of lip-syncing videos but it was fun for me even my mind wasn't set on blowing up or becoming viral it was still it was therapeutic for me because I was struggling with postpartum depression Hunter was working a lot
so he was gone a lot as a firefighter so for me it was just like filling that gap and kind of just giving me my pink back I guess as people say after you have a baby and so it was fun and then I was posting I did gain like a few thousand followers just from doing the original content
and then Hunter would be in a little bit he I had to like beg him because like this is so silly well he ended up filming a reaction of his him shaving off his mustache show it was a complete different content than what I was posting on TikTok and I ended up posting it because I was like
oh no I have to lose um you know this is just for fun anyways low up and so literally went grew a million followers in a month on TikTok and I'm like what is this in little backstory the months that I was doing TikTok it started off as just therapeutic whatever in this I was in
my searching like in a season of waiting and almost seeking I was in the where I was reading just books about like the Deborah Noining she's I love her in the Bible and I feel like it just spoke over my life and it and a few people at the same time were just saying you're going to be
an influence you're going to be an influence to many I had no idea what that meant now and I just thought it meant to people around me because that is we are all influencers to everybody were around and so in before we blew up on TikTok I was in a lot of prayer and seeking and I'm like okay God what
do you have for my life like what is your plan for me and I felt then that it was going to be something bigger than I would ever imagine and something to do with social media I guess not to the extent it is I still didn't know what that looked like I could just feel like something was
about to happen and that he was just like just trust me and surrender just surrender to me almost like I was taking on my own in searching and trying to make things happen and he was over and over telling me to surrender it and I remember till and hunter like we were really struggling
at this point financially and I was just like it's going to be okay I was like I can fill it something's going to have something's happening soon more so spiritually than financially but that we would be okay and I was like I'm just supposed to surrender I was like but I don't really
know what that looks like because I feel like I'm already I'm doing all the things I'm in prayer I'm in the word I'm all the things that you would think mean surrender and so the day before our video it viral I was at a stop sign and at this point it had been weeks of me just being like God what do
you mean what do you mean surrender I feel like I'm doing it and I was at a stop sign and clear as day he was like but have you even asked me to bless it and I was like no I have not and so still at the same stop sign that what it was behind me or anything I was like okay God I was like if you
will just take this platform do whatever you want to do with it grow it how you want to grow I will give all glory to you because I felt like that was what I was supposed to ask him for and what he was meaning and and then after that it was like I just had a piece and all the worry about figure
not what we were going to do next and all this was gone and then the next day I woke up our video had went viral and I was like is that what you meant because I had no idea was that and yes and so that is why to this day like I give all glory to God and just for our platforms and I started off
at first being like okay this means I need to get on there preach so I would do my devotions on there at least once a week or whatever and then at that point I feel like I was just doing it for to keep up and like for show like show and like a Christian you know don't put me in another
category like this is me and it became almost set up like I was I would hurry go through my yeah morning devotion just so I could share it and from that he was like it's okay they will know you about my fruit yeah by your fruit and so that is why I'm not our content is it me preaching
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also just like the process of how you pray through that because I think it's so important that we do have people pursuing um social media as like um a place of you know a place of actual influence and I actually have a sign up here that says being influencer we're following and I
always talk about that like everyone does have influence for sure everyone does everyone is an influencer because if you have anyone following you and not just on social media just in life then you're influencing them um so you have to take that seriously and you have to take your responsibility in that but also I think that sometimes there's this stigma against like social media or being an influencer whatever that is but it's like no we need to be in the spaces again as a light
and that doesn't mean that it all has to be like you preaching or it doesn't always have to be like explicitly as like opening up the word and reading it people will know you by the fruit and also like you're filled with the spirit of God and so it overflows into who you are just even by the
fruit on your life which if you if you're like what's fruit you're sitting here listening so the fruit of the spirit is you know love joy peace patience kindness goodness gentleman is faithfulness self-control all these things and so you think about that when you're a person on social media
who's walking into joy who has peace that's their past is understanding who is rooted in anchored in love and their identity as a daughter or son of Christ who has self-control in areas who's gentle who's kind people go what is this who is this person how do you have how do you
have an anchor in your identity how do you know that you're love how do you have a peace in this chaotic world how do you have such a true joy whereas how do you have self-control to resist the temptations your life how are you so gentle how are you so kind how are you faithful to this God
and then you get to say man it's the fruit of who God is this is what it's like to be in relationship with Jesus and that is influencing people for the better and so like yes people know you by that fruit that's all over your life people see that and you know it's interesting because even in my
life like since so my my life kind of took off whenever I was on Dancing with the Stars and it's very similar like within a month gained a million followers everything was crazy that was 10 years ago which is so crazy wow since then at the time like I wasn't doing any preaching or anything
like that when I was on Dancing with the Stars so I kind of went like with the more influencer e-Rowl and all those different stuff then actually super similar is really weird I kind of had this moment where God like I had to surrender like same thing and I was really wanting God to kind of
take this like fame I guess or influence in fame away which is interesting because I was just so overwhelmed by it and I really wanted to just do like a more normal thing and I was like I just kind of like want to go to school and I was playing sports the time I was in high school so I was I
just wanted to be normal you know and so I was like asking God to take it away and then I was like okay well if you're not going to take it away like show me how to use it you know like show me what to do in it and so I responded to this alter call and the Lord gave me this vision it was first
time I ever had got a vision first the Lord said I'm not calling you to be famous but I'm calling you to be a sister and a friend of those who don't have one that has stuck with me for 10 years now and everything I do always I have a sister's and friends five guys that a little sister conference
everything is sister and friend and then the second thing God showed me and that that moment was a picture of Instagram and the followers kept going up and up and up and up and I was going no no no no no no I'm asking for that to be taken away and then he said not your name but mine
yes I like remember seeing it visually like it was not me gaining followers it was like my influence bringing him follow you know what I mean which is like very interesting and I remember that changed everything for me and so I started using my influence to be a sister and a friend of
those who don't have one I started preaching I started sharing the Bible I started being myself I do dance videos I've done it for 10 years and you know it's crazy like nowadays sometimes I get hate on doing dance videos because people are like oh your preacher or whatever then I'll have
people on the podcast who aren't necessarily like Christian or pastor or some people are like oh like you shouldn't have that or whatever and I'm like look everything I do is going to be if you want to say it's a Christian thing right but everything I do is to bring God glory and
I'm a follower of Christ like that is who I am that is what I do but I believe that God beat like it's not necessarily like what you're doing it's not because I'm preaching or have about it's like it's who I am in him so even when I'm dancing I'm glorifying it even when I'm
having conversations with people who are different than me we're glorifying him or bringing his name and so I love that you said you're kind of fighting that like being put in a in a category in a box is I felt the same way I'm like don't put me in that box you know because again like I
don't think God puts us in that box I think he makes us original and I think through our originality there's so much room to grow and be all that he created you to be and so I don't think we should put ourselves in this like box of religion you know and so anyways this is kind of like messy
conversation but I just I love tearing your story I think it's absolutely super inspiring and I just think about people listening to this podcast who are thinking about pursuing social media as a career or maybe they're in that stage right now where their TikToks are cringing and they're
like I know it's cringe I know people like it but I'm having fun and like that's great if it's fun for you if it's like brings you joy and at the end of the day you're just like again it's helping for the season the first dance video Christian I did together was actually similar I was
having a lot of postpartum anxiety and I was struggling one day and I just told Christian I just needed dance and yeah just dance together and then that kind of started all these like fun videos during COVID that ended up bringing a lot of joy to people but first it was just for us you know
and so if you're out there and you're like trying to build a following maybe just take the pressure off yourself to build that in Psalms 127 it says unless the Lord builds the house the laborers labor and vain eating the bread of anxious toil but he gives his beloved sleep and so let God
build that house but you keep showing up you keep posting the videos have fun with it and give it to the Lord and your story it's so crazy because we just met but I feel like I literally could talk to you forever I know I know so many similarities too it's crazy um it's just really sweet
and actually I just had to point out the stop sign situation real fast because I think that like some of my best for a time comes in the car and I love that like you literally just took the time to stop and pray about something and ask the Lord and I just encourage you listening like take
take advice from her story and everything she shared how she even modeled out praying and what it looks like to go to God to things because um so many times you put pressure on ourselves that our morning routine or nighttime or whatever it is but like being in relationship with God is a
24-7 relationship it's it's being at a stop sign saying oh God I haven't even asked you to bless what I'm doing I haven't even asked you to be in God yeah there's no one behind me some of stuff right here and asking you know yeah so I don't know just like you you mentioned the fruit on your
life even just the way that you talk and what you're saying is an inspiration in and of itself of how you live thank you so truly I wish we had more time because I know I have so much I want to still talk about but I think we're gonna have to do a part two um or something because for
real this is so good I feel like this is like leave him a cliffhanger because I know so much more we can talk about so we'll have to do that um also just to shout out um if you don't follow or on social media you need to do that right now if you don't listen to her podcast salty um you
gotta go listen to her podcast you obviously has so much to say and is such a good example and influence to be following um so thank you and your family for sharing your life with the world it's a gift thank you so much Sadie I just I just love loved this conversation and yeah well definitely have to do another convert have more conversations because I just have more I'm just like I love it I love it I love it well how do I get him for sure well thank you so much thank you bye