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Crusade 4 - Technomage Shade

Jul 31, 202444 minEp. 135
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Episode description

Join Laura and Xhafer, two internet strangers as they get to know each other while making jokes about one of their favorite TV shows from their childhood, Babylon 5.

Laura and Xhafer put their four episodes' worth of Crusade knowledge to the test. Meanwhile, the Excalibur crew explores an abandoned world with absurdly placed data crystals. Galen confronts the Technomages' dark past and Gideon asks: "What's in the box?" in Crusade: Episode 10 - The Memory of War.

Transcript

Laura

Hello and welcome to Who Are You? We're the Babylon 5 watch cast by a couple of former strangers who are now friends and still getting to know each other over one of their favorite shows from their childhood, Babylon 5. I'm Laura.

Xhafer

And I'm Ja'far.

Laura

And today I think we have a quiz.

Xhafer

We got a little quizzy do.

Laura

Yay. I'm so excited. All right. About a show I've only seen four episodes of.

Xhafer

Yeah, this is a Crusade specific quiz. And I haven't read all of the questions, but my screen has up through number three and it's about an episode we haven't watched. So I'm not expecting us to do particularly well. The average score is 13 out of 20.

Laura

That sounds tough, too. Or maybe it's a show problem.

Xhafer

this quiz was last updated December, 2021.

Laura

Who was

Xhafer

way too recently.

Laura

Well, you know, maybe that was somebody's pandemic thing. Like, maybe they got into Babylon 5 and hit Crusade real hard, and then they had to go update some shit.

Xhafer

Yeah. okay. I got, I'm going to read some questions here. This first one I already know the answer for because I did all the planning. So it's how many episodes of crusade were filmed and aired.

Laura

Filmed and aired. They're not the same number, right?

Xhafer

You're correct. But the number of aired episodes was only five in America. I'm assuming that this was done by someone not in America.

Laura

Oh, okay.

Xhafer

In which case the number of filmed episodes was 13, which is

Laura

Yeah, I was gonna say it's 13, but only 5 aired. Okay.

Xhafer

Yeah, our options are 11, 16, 13, and 8. So, we're gonna go

Laura

We got this. We got that one.

Xhafer

The first five episodes filmed were the last five aired. Now, this is in not production not DVD order, right?

Laura

huh.

Xhafer

And the answer to this is yes.

Laura

was just a yes or no question?

Xhafer

a yeah, it's a true or false, um, and I'm pretty sure it's a yes because I remember there being lots of complaints about the show's quality dipping after it aired and the first five episodes produced being the strongest. And one of the advantages of the watch order we've chosen is it breaks up those episodes.

Laura

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I could see that. Knowing,

Xhafer

Racing the Night. Galen quotes a phrase from the Bible and Gideon identifies this book this quote comes from. What book is it? Solomon? Job? Judges? Or Song of Songs? I'm not a Bible person. Is Song of Songs a book of the Bible?

Laura

I'm not sure. I know there's the Song of Solomon,

Xhafer

Yeah.

Laura

heard.

Xhafer

There's Psalms. I know that's a book of the Bible, but that's not, that's with a P. That's not what this is.

Laura

yeah, but Psalms are songs, like, yeah Song of Songs. I'm just going to pop that in the old Google. Yeah, no, that's, that's a book in the Bible, apparently.

Xhafer

a book of the Bible? Okay.

Laura

Yeah, I really wish I knew context about the episode, because I feel like there's, like, Job is referred to often, so, and there's like the struggles of Job and whatever, so I, I don't know, I'm just going to go with that one.

Xhafer

I will take your word for it.

Laura

I have no context of what the episode's about, so I can't really go any closer, but I, people love to talk about the Book of Job, so, why not?

Xhafer

yeah. Alright, what is the name of the ship in Crusade? Is it

Laura

Oh, there's the Excalibur!

Xhafer

it's the Excalibur, yeah. But our options are Crusader, Antares, or the Rotaran. The Rataran being a Klingon bird of prey, if memory serves.

Laura

Yes, yes. I forget which series it's from, but yeah.

Xhafer

Which Babylon 5 TV movie provided the backstory for Crusade?

Laura

Call to Arms, we've been through that, yeah.

Xhafer

Okay. In the episode, The Well of Forever, which is not one we've watched, Galen says a eulogy for his dead beloved. Part of what he says is a quote from a Shakespeare play. Which one? Our options are Romeo and Juliet, Sembeline, Hamlet, or Othello.

Laura

Can't be Hamlet, right?

Xhafer

That would be a weird choice for,

Laura

would be weird, too.

Xhafer

well, so it is a eulogy though.

Laura

Okay,

Xhafer

So, I mean, I could see a little, is the last poor Yorick, is that Hamlet or Macbeth?

Laura

hamlet.

Xhafer

Okay, yeah, so that's the one about death being is death an endless slumber to, or is it dream and heaven and stuff? Like, there's stuff in there that I could see in that monologue that you might, if you're, if you're Galen, you might work into a eulogy.

Laura

I really want it to be that, and I want it to be that speech, but I want it to be him talking about, I'm assuming a beloved woman, some sort of beloved, and him just saying, Alas, poor so and so, I knew you well.

Xhafer

Do we just want to say Hamlet

Laura

Yeah, let's go with Hamlet, why not?

Xhafer

Okay, well, speaking of that person, what is the name of the person Galen is mourning? Isabelle? Susanna? Ernesta or Morgan?

Laura

I really want it to be Ernesta. I don't think it is though. Mm,

Xhafer

I'm disappointed.

Laura

mm hmm. You think the beloved is a techno mage?

Xhafer

Oh, it's Galen. It has to be.

Laura

Mm, okay. I mean his parents were, so I could see that. I think, I'm feeling Susanna for some reason. I don't know why.

Xhafer

You thinkin that uh, Dark Tower? Maybe.

Laura

I don't know.

Xhafer

Alright. What crusade regular was 5? We talked about this the other day. They haven't shown up yet, but it's Lockley. He's in the main credits.

Laura

Give me some more Lockley.

Xhafer

what is unique about Lieutenant John Matheson?

Laura

Telepath.

Xhafer

Yeah.

Laura

Cheekbones.

Xhafer

Cheekbones. The other options are Technomage, Blind, or all of the above.

Laura

Yeah, a blind techno mage telepath. I love it. Yes, give me that guy.

Xhafer

Which actor had his father play a major guest character in one of the episodes?

Laura

Oh, was it

Xhafer

We just talked about this on the Discord. Yeah. Galen's actor Peter Woodward is one of the options. The others are David Alan Brooks, Daniel A. Kim, and Marjean Holden.

Laura

Yeah, we didn't clock it in that episode where he

Xhafer

We didn't, but the Discord saved us on this quiz.

Laura

Yeah, thanks Discord.

Xhafer

Thank you! How many years does the crew have to find a cure to the drach plague?

Laura

Five, right?

Xhafer

Mm hmm.

Laura

They have a five year mission.

Xhafer

Um, which character has a sister trapped on Earth? Hmm.

Laura

Sarah Chambers.

Xhafer

Correct. Our doctor. whose ex wife do we meet in the course of the series?

Laura

Probably Sheridan's.

Xhafer

Right? Well, I

Laura

technically,

Xhafer

Yeah, he's not on the list though. We've got Galen, Captain Gideon, Lieutenant Matheson, or Max Eilerson.

Laura

feel like Max Iverson has got to have an ex wife.

Xhafer

A string of ex wives that, in that guy, you can tell he's the type.

Laura

Yeah. Yeah. Gideon might too, but Max Eilerson, I don't know that any one woman could put up with that for her whole life. Jesus Christ.

Xhafer

Speaking of Max Eilerson, what is his specialty?

Laura

Linguistics. Yeah.

Xhafer

Yes, that is one of the options. Cooking, painting, and navigation were the other choices.

Laura

mean, he could be good at cooking and painting. We just don't know at this point.

Xhafer

We got 5 questions left, we're on 15. Well, I guess 6 questions left then. When Galen visits Darina in her quarters, he asks her why she has made everything so small. What is her reaction? 1. She attacks him. 2. She laughs. 3. She tells him to leave her quarters and never return. Or 4. She's made everything the right size. She tells him she's made everything the right size.

Laura

I mean it should definitely be number three. This man should turn around and go away and never come back. But I feel like maybe it's number four? I don't know, this is a weird question.

Xhafer

It is. What sci fi series is the episode Visitors from Down the Street a spoof of? Is it Star Trek, Babylon 5, Lost in Space, or The X Files?

Laura

I feel like it's gotta be like X Files or something, right? Like,

Xhafer

That seems right.

Laura

this is a very X Files y kind of show. Like, we're a lot more mysterious.

Xhafer

Yeah. Um, How did Gideon come to be in possession of the Apocalypse Box?

Laura

Okay, we need to talk about the Apocalypse Box, but that is the end of this episode, my guy. We have to save it.

Xhafer

Yeah. I didn't know that's what it was called, but here

Laura

I think that's what it is, yeah.

Xhafer

It has to be it. Uh, Did he win it in a game of poker? Was it given to him by his father? Did he steal it, or did he find it on a deserted planet?

Laura

It's probably a deserted planet, like, we're going to a lot of those for some reason, yeah.

Xhafer

Yep. Which Babylon 5 character appeared in the episode, Each Night I Dream of Home? Was it Garibaldi, Delenn, Veer, or none of these?

Laura

I mean, it could be Lockley.

Xhafer

I, I think it's none of these. Because I, well, um, I'm pretty sure we know, Call to Arms is the last thing Jerry Doyle did in Babylon 5. I remember that being a thing.

Laura

Okay.

Xhafer

I don't remember D'Len or Veer showing up in Crusade. I know Veer

Laura

Has directed.

Xhafer

but I don't think he shows up in episode I don't recall D'Len showing up either.

Laura

Okay, so let's just say none.

Xhafer

I think that might be the episode that Franklin is in. But

Laura

okay.

Xhafer

I'm not certain.

Laura

Alright, go with none.

Xhafer

we're

Laura

You've convinced me.

Xhafer

Complete the quote. There's always hope. It's the one thing and then our options. You can rely on nobody's figured out how to kill yet. I truly believe in or that all races, alien, and human have in common.

Laura

It's either that one, or the one thing we haven't killed yet.

Xhafer

I

Laura

it to be that one.

Xhafer

I like it that one, yeah.

Laura

Yeah, yeah.

Xhafer

And uh, what was the name of the last script completed for the show, but never filmed?

Laura

Oh, we have that, right? Thank you.

Xhafer

We have this. Appearances and Other Deceits, uh, which is a filmed episode. End of the line. Tacking into the wind. Or the changing face of evil.

Laura

Well, you're the one who has it, so you tell me.

Xhafer

I don't remember.

Laura

Oh no, crap!

Xhafer

Um, I, end of the line seems appropriate. It's probably not, but we'll, I'm gonna hit submit. Are we good with these answers?

Laura

I'm great with all these answers. Let's find out how we did.

Xhafer

Okay. Oh, we did good.

Laura

Yeah? Yeah, better than average?

Xhafer

We got 16 out of 20. 13 is the average score.

Laura

Oh

Xhafer

so the ones we got wrong do you want to know? Because they're spoilies.

Laura

that's fine.

Xhafer

The Shakespeare quote comes from Cymbeline.

Laura

Okay. Sure.

Xhafer

Care no more to clothe and eat, to thee the reed is as the oak, the scepter learning psychic must, I'll follow this and come to dust. All lovers young, all lovers must, consign to thee and come to dust.

Laura

Okay.

Xhafer

Uh, And that was for Isabelle, not Susanna.

Laura

Damn. Okay.

Xhafer

Um, and then, how many years does the crew have to find a cure for the Drak Plague? Four.

Laura

What?

Xhafer

we s The Drak Plague takes five years but they only have four years to find the cure.

Laura

Oh, cause you gotta like, manufacture it, I guess.

Xhafer

Apparently, after that, Gideon promised the alien government's Excalibur will return to Earth in order to enforce the quarantine. And it quotes an episode that hasn't happened yet. So, I don't feel bad about getting that one wrong.

Laura

Yeah, no, me neither.

Xhafer

And then finally, how did Gideon come into possession of the apocalypse box?

Laura

Oh, do tell.

Xhafer

We got it wrong. I don't Um, I don't know that I'm going to tell you. It,

Laura

though. Okay, listener. The apocalypse box. Did you watch the episode, listener? Because the, the highlight of this whole episode for me was at the end, when Gideon sits in his quarters and talks to his magic box. But I think that the episode where he gets the magic box was never filmed, is what Eryn said. It

Xhafer

no, it's, it's episode four, the path of sorrows,

Laura

Oh, okay, okay.

Xhafer

we will be watching as our second episode back after the movie break.

Laura

Okay.

Xhafer

So we won't find out for until Oh God, that episode airs September 11th. But. That's when we'll find out where the apocalypse box comes from. Oh, no,

Laura

Oh, I can't wait to see how

Xhafer

frame it in these very specific criteria, it feels very bad.

Laura

so excited. We get

Xhafer

Well, we've got a lot of crusade to talk about before we get there. So, why don't we get started on that? We've got our fourth episode of coverage, the tenth episode in DVD air order, the memory of war.

Laura

a great in media media open. More

Xhafer

I love it in media media.

Laura

It's one of my favorites. We get the ISN news lady we've seen before. She's talking about we've got economic collapse due to this pandemic. That checks out. That seems legit. Orbital transport has been banned. We talk about Pope Bernadette II, which I feel is a very optimistic view of how things are going to go for the Catholic Church. And Dr. Franklin is appearing before the Senate to, to presumably talk about the pandemic and stuff.

Xhafer

The crew has found a planet that looks like it got plagued.

Laura

Hmm.

Xhafer

But, Before they can start to investigate, Galen shows up to warn them off. That they're all going to die, probably.

Laura

Where's Galen been? Cause I didn't realize he was gone, but you know, these episodes are not in like

Xhafer

Yeah, he comes and goes. Uh, He, he boards the ship in a sequence that I can only describe as Zoolander esque.

Laura

yes, there is a little Zoolander energy about this man.

Xhafer

Yeah.

Laura

I like it.

Xhafer

They, the senior staff meets to discuss this planet as Galen is dramatically walking in, in what has to be the smallest boardroom in history. Like. They have infinite basketball courts, but not a meeting room that has a seat for Galen.

Laura

Yeah. Well, you've got to have your priorities. Like basketball courts, very important. Meetings, not important. Could have been an email. Yeah.

Xhafer

You know, that's so optimistic. I really appreciate that, actually.

Laura

Yeah. They make it sound like they have been looking for this planet specifically, like something in a previous episode. was leading us here. But Galen is not happy with it. He doesn't think anyone will survive if they go down.

Xhafer

But it doesn't matter, because the uh, the crew's going anyways. They're excited to learn what they can. I mean, they take this from a very, like, measured approach. Like, well, We can learn what didn't work. That might be helpful both in managing, like, the population and the crisis on Earth, and then also, like, the plague itself. Like, there's more to learn than just, possibly, like, a potential lead on the cure. Yeah.

Laura

we come back from Thiem. They're talking about how this planet was wiped out by the same virus. Mm hmm. Or appears to have been wiped out

Xhafer

A similar virus, some, some type of similar virus, yeah.

Laura

Mm hmm, yeah. Galen is being very sassy. And so we're still in new uniform territory in this episode. And I know I gave them a lot of shade in the last episode. Maybe they look better now. I'm It's growing on me. I'm okay with it.

Xhafer

Yeah. So, I think because it's episode eight in air order that got the new uniform. So, anything after that is gonna be the new uniform. So, we're gonna be in new uniform land for a while and then with our watch order, we go back to old uniforms towards the back end.

Laura

Yeah. I knew it was going to be weird, but I'm like, okay, it's growing on me. I like it better. Gary Cole's doing his best to fill that thing.

Xhafer

Yeah. Yeah, it doesn't feel as Galaxy Quest when it's actually being worn by everyone. And also, his is a little different because he's got that, like, captain motif. It's a little different, so.

Laura

Everybody's gotta, like, have a little extra pizzazz on the captain, right?

Xhafer

If you're the captain of a starship and you don't have an action jacket, are you even the captain of the starship?

Laura

Great question. Yeah. So Max Eilerson is all enraptured by the idea of all this new alien technology that might be down there.

Xhafer

hmm.

Laura

But Galen is still being very weird and says all the Technomages know this place is bad and diseased. Ooh, haunted maybe, you

Xhafer

Yeah, ooh, this place sucks. Don't go. Why are we doing this? This is dumb.

Laura

Yeah, he says the last Technomage who tried to go to this place died.

Xhafer

But fuck it, the crew are going anyways. And uh, They will uh, Try To, at the very least, learn something here.

Laura

Eylerson is an idiot, though. His logic. As he preps his whole team to go down, is stupid and bad.

Xhafer

Yeah. This is just the dichotomy here, of like, Eilerson's all like, I'm bringing y'all with me so they have to rescue me, and Gideon being all like, here's what happens if I go down, here's the plans. You're captain.

Laura

Yeah, Eilerson sucks.

Xhafer

Yes.

Laura

and he was all mopey in the last episode about getting somebody killed, you know? And he's like, nah, you two peons are coming with me. Nevermind the danger, like, and he gets the one of them killed in this episode, doesn't he? One or both.

Xhafer

Mm hmm.

Laura

God, he sucks.

Xhafer

He is the worst. Before they head down, Galen shows up in Gideon's quarters to try and guilt him into not going because he'll miss them and making new friends sucks.

Laura

No, but that's real.

Xhafer

So real. I feel, I felt, so felt.

Laura

It's so hard. Oh, man. Yeah, but, yeah.

Xhafer

Uh, He shares the uh, The last words. Genius Loki, the spirit of the place. As Gideon and crew grab some mobile infantry and head on down to the planet.

Laura

Galen disappears in his, like, traditional Technomage mysterious way, and we have, like, some space wind, and I really, really missed, at this moment, the lens

Xhafer

Uh,

Laura

I needed those, so we could have some, some tinkling of the, the wind chimes as he space winds away. Mmm.

Xhafer

they launched all these probes early in the episode and when they get down to the surface they found that they're charcoal now for some reason. It is never explained.

Laura

Yeah. And no one is worried that the virus could still be active here in some way. Like, I guess maybe the probes told us that. I don't know.

Xhafer

Darina explores and finds a cool light bridge that leads to the most inconveniently placed data crystal in history.

Laura

Yeah, what is going on here? Like, why is this there? Or are they all Is everything just in the blockchain? And you just, like, take one piece and you've got it all? I don't know.

Xhafer

That is not, you know what? Fuck it, that's how blockchain works, nevermind. Nevermind.

Laura

I just want it to be okay. It's the cloud blockchain, but yeah, it's like on the side of a building.

Xhafer

Those words don't go together like that. I

Laura

The look on his face as he like dies, as I say, just dumb words and put them together.

Xhafer

had to deal with cloud strike yesterday.

Laura

I'm sorry. I should have been more sensitive to year. experiences.

Xhafer

okay. It all turned out okay. It wasn't that bad for

Laura

Yeah, yeah. But like, why, why do we put this data crystal on the side of a building that is like way up in the air? Just so we can have this little light bridge, like, oh god, it's gonna come up, it's gonna stop.

Xhafer

You know what? Actually, in my notes, I questioned this a ton, but literally after yesterday, why do we push an update at 1am that breaks any computer that's running in the world? I'm not gonna ask these questions anymore. Maybe this is a safe place to hide something. It's out of the range of the Wi Fi, so Windows Update can't break it.

Laura

And then, What turns out to be on it later, I think, is even more like, why is this on the side of a building?

Xhafer

Oh, it makes no sense whatsoever.

Laura

yeah, it's just the worst. Oh, did you catch that the Starship Troopers helmets are back?

Xhafer

I did. The guards maybe see something while Max decodes the crystal.

Laura

Eilerson gives her shit about bringing back just

Xhafer

heh.

Laura

uh, she definitely would like to push him off a bridge here. And I'm all for that. Go ahead,

Xhafer

Yeah, just put him on the bridge. Also, why does the bridge stop working when she pulls the data crystal? Also, why does the bridge retract instead of just failing?

Laura

Instead of just,

Xhafer

It's made of light. That doesn't make any, ugh. Oh

Laura

worse the more you think about it.

Xhafer

no.

Laura

Then we see a security guy gets got while patrolling the perimeter.

Xhafer

Um, it's okay. I have to, this guy gets got and we cut back and forth with Max Eilerson, right? At this point, Beth walked in the room,

Laura

Uh

Xhafer

Looked at the screen, and goes, why is Michael Bolton listening to alien Edgar Allen Poe?

Laura

He does have a big Michael Bolton vibe,

Xhafer

And done.

Laura

Yeah. Very astute observation.

Xhafer

For more critical insight like that, listen to the coming podcast, Cool Girls Don't Look at Explosions.

Laura

Yeah,

Xhafer

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Laura

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Xhafer

Where pew pews are pew pews. That's our slogan.

Laura

Yeah, I like it.

Xhafer

God, you can tell it's like 11 o'clock at night. Okay.

Laura

late.

Xhafer

your fault. Heh

Laura

Yeah, so Eylerson is decoding the last message of one of the planet's inhabitants that was on the side of this building for some reason. I just want to stress that so hard. Stress

Xhafer

It's just this alien's live journal entry just hanging out on the side of a building that is only accessible by a retracting light bridge. Also, if the only way for this thing to be there is when the crystal is on the other side, how did they put it there? Heh heh.

Laura

So

Xhafer

There was no ledge over there for them to stand on to put it in in the first place. Heh heh.

Laura

Why would, why isn't it in your room? Were you worried about somebody finding your last will and testament when everyone on your planet is dead? Like, can't let anybody see my, my, my space from, you know, 2004. so as he's doing this, one of his linguists also gets God to commercial. So way to go. I listen.

Xhafer

Yeah, it starts with the screaming, and the dying. Uh, They send bodies up for autopsy uh, which the doctor performs while talking to Galen, and the doctor knows that they have all died, very differently. Uh, Galen taps into the probes uh, while Dr. Chambers actually solves the fucking riddle. It's a nanovirus that is impacting other people and making them kill the less infected ones.

Laura

Yeah, so not the Drak Plague.

Xhafer

yeah. And while they're looking at the nanovirus, Galen sees a sigil.

Laura

Hmm.

Xhafer

Letting him know the origins of this thing. But yeah, Dr. Chambers goes on. It's the least infected who are dying and the more infected are killing them. deduces the attacks come at night because the solar interference during the day prevents them.

Laura

Oh yeah, the nanobots can't function with the sunlight, basically.

Xhafer

because it's a multi star system, and there's a bunch of electromagnetic interference that fucks with them. Um,

Laura

analog? Maybe werewolves.

Xhafer

Space, I was going to say Space Vampires, because they can come out any night. Werewolves only come out specific

Laura

Oh, true, true. I wasn't thinking of vampires as like causing wanton destruction though. So we've really just like merged the two. Yeah. Okay. Cool.

Xhafer

he deduces that there must be a control center broadcasting the commands.

Laura

Yeah. Away from the sun and any solar interference.

Xhafer

So he uh, heads down to the surface to find this thing, uh, and he does not let Gideon come with him when he goes to find it.

Laura

Smart move. If Gideon is infected and goes down into the, away from the sun, he would be a problem, right?

Xhafer

Exactly. It makes sense, which is why when Gideon immediately takes care of the people back at camp and then goes anyways, it's like, bro, you are the problem. You are the wild card here.

Laura

Yep.

Xhafer

Ugh. Galen finds the Technomage AI that's doing all of the killing, and this thing is just set on being a fucking menace.

Laura

Yeah. There's a lot of Technomage shade going around. I love it.

Xhafer

Yeah. This Technomage AI is the guy who dressed up as Keith Ledger's Joker for six Halloweens in a

Laura

Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah.

Xhafer

He's just not someone you want to associate with.

Laura

Yeah. No. No good. Eylorson back, we're like cutting back and forth between the Technomages and what's happening with Eylorson. barricaded himself in a room, and now he's got the zombies pounding at the door. So, the consequences of your own actions coming at you.

Xhafer

Right? Doreena, who's been gone for like 40 minutes, finally shows back up to kill Galen. But uh, Gideon is like, actually completely useless here. Mm

Laura

of completely useless, Eilerson gets the classic, here's Johnny, from his other linguist guy. Breaking down his door at the same time.

Xhafer

Yep. Galen saves the day by sacrificing his staff to kill the AI. Okay.

Laura

at this point, do we? No.

Xhafer

I want to bitch about this.

Laura

Because he seems very attached to this thing, but we don't know a

Xhafer

We get a whole monologue about how this staff was a gift. It's a source of power as a Technomage. It's keyed into him, but it cancels out other Technomage stuff, and you needed a Technomage thing to break a Technomage thing. All this shit. It's so important. I sacrificed so much. And then Darina walks in with it 30 fucking seconds later. This is the opposite of Chekhov's gun.

Laura

Yeah,

Xhafer

Uh, I'm gonna go ahead and coin a literary term here. This is Abram's Droid. Thus named after the Rise of Skywalker.

Laura

Okay.

Xhafer

they set up A ton of characters for growth through sacrifice. C 3PO can like, read the Sith Artifact if they reset his memory. And he loses all of his adventures and all of his memories of all nine fucking movies, right? And they're like, it's this whole thing. They build you for this emotional moment. They do it. He reads the thing. And then R2, like five seconds later, just dies. plugs in and gives him his memories back,

Laura

Nah.

Xhafer

thus undoing all of the sacrifice that would have let these characters fucking grow. It never fucking mattered. It is a It, like, if Chekhov's gun is the plot device that you set up early to use later, Abram's droid is the plot device you build very quickly and then make completely fucking pointless within 30 seconds.

Laura

Yeah, yeah.

Xhafer

so much about how important Galen's staff is, after he just sacrifices it, only for him to immediately get it back. It is fucking worthless. It is a waste of dialogue.

Laura

Yeah, this is something that, and I was trying to give it the benefit of the doubt that like, okay, maybe since we're watching things out of order, like, maybe it's been set up earlier that like, Oh, the Technobage staff is super important. They didn't plant any seeds any earlier in the episode than this, for sure. And you would think that if this is the first place it's gonna come up, you would do it earlier in the episode, right? Uh, But we did not.

And I do like Darina getting to like, have the last word of like, I'm so much fucking better than you guys. Go away. Like.

Xhafer

There's no way anyone could possibly retrieve it. And she's just all like, here you go, fuck

Laura

Yeah. Yeah. Maybe there's no way any man could retrieve it, but she's not. did we, did we talk about how Gideon shot Darina? Like I guess Gideon wasn't so infected that the sunlight didn't totally

Xhafer

I mean, he could have been. He could have just been so infected that he shot Darina. That's how the virus works. Doesn't

Laura

point. I thought he did it because he was on Galen's side, but that's not necessarily true. Okay. Okay.

Xhafer

Yep. Very ambiguous, and doesn't matter.

Laura

Oh, we didn't talk about how when this machine fucking explodes. There is a giant fireball with the Tectomages face in it. Did you see that?

Xhafer

How absurd.

Laura

It's so absurd. It's like, what? Why? Were you trying to make me feel something here? Because the only thing I feel is laughter coming out of my belly because this is hysterical.

Xhafer

Yeah. so after all this wraps up, Dr. Chambers has taken the nanomachines and adapted it to allow it to protect someone from getting infected on earth for 48 hours.

Laura

Yeah, so we have like a little. Nanosuit we can put on and maybe go help people, maybe?

Xhafer

Yeah, you can go down there for two days and maybe do some experiments or see a loved one, but there's a very limited supply of it, so you should probably be very careful with how you use it. Dr. Chambers, totally not going to go visit your niece or something. Um,

Laura

You should have you should have been able to hear Ja'far's eyebrow when he said, see a loved one, because it was pretty loud. That's all I'm saying.

Xhafer

got a lot of forehead for them to go up on. Lots of, lots of space up there. Yeah, it's a bit much. It's cool though. Hey, it's cool. It's a

Laura

idea. Yeah. Maybe that can be made to work better somehow and longer. Cool.

Xhafer

Yeah.

Laura

Gideon comes by asking Galen if he's gonna stay on board. Oh, Galen has, like, little nanobots himself that are, like, repairing his moons.

Xhafer

Yeah.

Laura

So interesting.

Xhafer

That's very techno magey.

Laura

Yeah. But this is when he's, like, having his huge bum out about the staff being destroyed in the machine.

Xhafer

Yeah. We wrap this episode up with a scene with Gideon and Gideon. In his quarters. Talking to what I can only assume is the apocalypse box. A chest within a chest.

Laura

Yeah, it's like got a glowing thing in it, because of course.

Xhafer

Laura, I have to ask you. Wahapa her?

Laura

Well now you know and I don't. But this fucking magic box. I was like, up until this point, like, I was like, okay, this is an okay episode, I guess. And then at the magic box, I was like, what the fuck is this? What the fuck is this? He

Xhafer

What is going on?

Laura

magic box that is talking to him and glowing. And I was like, well, I'm sold. This, this is why we should reboot Crusade. Because I, this is so fun. But the magic box also doesn't trust Galen.

Xhafer

No, don't trust Galen, ooooh,

Laura

Yeah, why, why can't we trust Galen? I have to know.

Xhafer

ooooh, it's a mystery. Hahahaha

Laura

and he turns on his playlist as he's gonna like chill out and fly away somewhere else in space. And it is full out. Of tribal beats. This, this is the music they have chosen to end this episode on. Just like tribal drums.

Xhafer

You couldn't even get, like, Nine Inch Nails Ghosts. Like, you can tell me that that's all Technomages ever listened to was the Nine Inch Nails Ghosts albums. And I would 100 percent believe you. That makes perfect sense to me. It's like all that survived for them. It's all like, all their brains are interested in comprehending. Is, is just fucking instrumentals from Trent Reznor. It's all they want. But no, we get. Really weird tribal beats.

Laura

To theme. That's the end of this episode. So, Ja'far, I really want to know how you rate this episode.

Xhafer

We We said one out of four. Er, yeah, one out We have to pick a number of main guns ranging from one to four.

Laura

Mhm.

Xhafer

Implying that one is the floor. Heh. Um, look. I had fun making fun of this episode.

Laura

Mhm.

Xhafer

That does earn it some credit. From me. It is not a good episode, um, but it's absurd and every, every opportunity they had to do something that makes sense they chose not to. From the very start of the episode to the very end.

Laura

Mhm. Mhm.

Xhafer

And uh, Abram's droid, as I've coined it, has been a long standing pet peeve of mine. So I really don't want to give this, this, this anything, but if I do give this the two out of four main guns I'm going to. It is solely for the entertainment value of our conversation, and not for actually watching the episode.

Laura

That is the same logic that I am applying to this, but I'm giving it all four main guns firing because I had, I I, was fucking wheezing at the end at the magic box and the tribal drums. I could not stop laughing for like 20 minutes. I was like, I cannot wait to talk to you about this fucking magic box and these drums. And that is what I'm getting out of this show is like this stuff. is bonkers.

Some of it is, some of it is not entertainingly bonkers, but some, most of it so far is just hilarious to talk about.

Xhafer

yeah, it was, it's so funny, it's so absurd.

Laura

Last, the episode before that, cause we watched, Aaron and I watched these two right in a row. So we had Kevin and then we had the magic box and the tribal drums. And I was just like, this is fun. I love talking about this show with my friend. So it really got me. This episode got me good.

Xhafer

Okay. Well, let's hope we get something like that out of the next episode. We've got Crusade episode 11, The Needs of Earth. Ben, my uh, podcasting padre over on Last Time On uh, is gonna be joining us. And uh, the episode synopsis is succinct, even for Crusade.

Laura

Oh no.

Xhafer

Gideon conducts an illegal raid. To free a fugitive with information that could save Earth.

Laura

Well, we know Gideon doesn't play by anybody else's rules.

Xhafer

But he gets the job done.

Laura

gets the job done. He's like the bad boy of earth force science exploration.

Xhafer

Him in jail. Good old jail pipes always gets the job done. Oh, all right. Well, I'm looking forward to watching, I haven't watched that one yet, but uh, I'm looking forward to watching it and talking about it with you.

Laura

Yeah, it's going to be double the fun, because there will also be Ben, so Eight main guns firing, pew pew pew!

Xhafer

Well, let's hope so. But before we get to those main guns firing, we do have to, of course, thank a handful of people who have had an impact on the podcast that are not here to thank themselves.

Laura

To accept their thanks.

Xhafer

Good answer. Jeremy Siegel. Thank you so much for composing our theme music. We appreciate the hell out of it. You can find more of Jeremy's work at Jeremy Siegel 42 dot Bandcamp. com or on streaming services as Nuclear Jaguar where he just dropped some music. He's about to drop some music. I think he's about to drop some music. Maybe by the time this airs, it will have dropped.

Laura

Yeah. Yeah. You've got some time.

Xhafer

Yeah. Yeah, this is a couple weeks still.

Laura

Get it out, Jeremy. Okay. Okay.

Xhafer

to it.

Laura

And thank you to Angry Duck Time Machine on Instagram for our podcast artwork. Yeah.

Xhafer

this podcast and making it sound coherent. We really appreciate it.

Laura

And thank you to you, the listener, for being here with us. If you're enjoying the Crusade coverage and have Crusade thoughts, you can always share them at whoareyoub5 at gmail. com or uh, join our Discord and share with the group. There's a lot of fun people over there who are really cool and chill.

Xhafer

It's the truth. Love our Discord community. Alright, we'll see you next week, Internet.

Laura

Bye!

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