Hello and welcome to Who Are You? This is a reasonably well done sci-fi watch cast hosted by two former strangers. Now friends who are currently watching 2000 fours Battlestar Galactica. I'm Jair,
Laura:Or met Laura.
Xhafer:aren't you glad to be back to happy, uplifting Battlestar Galactica after Blackhawk Downer.
Laura:I. Have been putting this off, like watching any more. Battlestar has just been like a little too much for a couple weeks
Xhafer:Yeah.
Laura:I was really nervous after how Pegasus ended how this was all gonna go down. So, uh, we do get some silent answers though. That's nice. Wasn't as bad as I feared. I'd kind of built it up in my head of like. Everything's just a blood bath in the next two episodes, and it's really not.
Xhafer:Well, I mean, most of the blood bath is reserved for next episode, but.
Laura:Yeah, true.
Xhafer:Uh, not, not as bad as, uh, you had thought though, the two parter. We've both, We've both watched both parts and we're planning on recording these near back to backs, even though you've got a weak listener. It's gonna be more like one continuous conversation for us in this uh, parasocial relationship. So, uh, I, we'll try not to get ahead of ourselves if you haven't watched part two yet, but.
Laura:Right. It wasn't as bad as I feared, like everything at, at the end of Pegasus feels pretty bleak and dark.
Xhafer:No, just wait.
Laura:I know everyone keeps saying stuff like that ominously I with the face. But It seems like our situations do have some ability to work themselves out, but I was like, there's just no way. There's no way. This is all bad. it's a brilliant writing on the part of the writing team. Very good.
Xhafer:for sure.
Laura:Takes a lot of work to make someone feel that way and then get them out of it.
Xhafer:Yeah. Yeah. It's a, I think it's a very good two. I mean, we'll review 'em over the course of the show, but I mean, uh, it's a very strong two-parter. I. It's a very strong three parter, not my favorite in television history. That stays with Babylon five. But
Laura:Mm-hmm.
Xhafer:on the list, top three parters.
Laura:it's good. And I don't know, maybe a little more like. Realistic. Then if we're gonna go back to the, we talked a lot about Voyager Equinox. The Equinox things feels like it gets tied up pretty ti ti ly. Um,
Xhafer:tidally,
Laura:yes. Yeah.
Xhafer:the ship is destroyed. Their crew might be extras for the next three seasons or whatever's left
Laura:Mm-hmm. Yeah,
Xhafer:and
Laura:fine. It's all fine. Hand wavy. No, no trauma counseling needed for anybody. It's all good.
Xhafer:This, this very much has stakes and changes the game for the rest of the show,
Laura:Yeah. So at the very top of my notes for this episode, this is Battlestar Galactica, season two, episode 11, resurrection Ship, part one. I wrote very long last time on. We have a lot to establish with the Pegasus episode.
Xhafer:Yeah. Well, it's important to know. Um, I do think, did, did we just, did you look it up? Was there a break?
Laura:I thought Aaron said he had looked it up and there was a break between Pegasus and Resurrection Ship, but I never confirmed that.
Xhafer:I am looking it up right now. I'm just gonna
Laura:it's worth
Xhafer:Google this shit real quick because I feel like that would explain the extra attention. Oh yeah. Um, it wasn't a huge break, but Pegasus aired September 23rd, 2005, resurrection Ship, part one, January 6th, 2006.
Laura:That's a, that's a bit of a break. Yeah.
Xhafer:Um,
Laura:don't handle that well anymore. Yeah. I mean, midseason like,
Xhafer:yeah. A couple months mid-season, no big deal.
Laura:mm-hmm. Now you have to drop it all for me streaming like within three weeks, or I lose my mind.
Xhafer:Yeah. Did you see what they're doing with the last season of Stranger Things?
Laura:Huh.
Xhafer:It's being spread out over, like, it's not like Episo episodic weekly, but. They've managed to, I think, I dunno how many episodes there are. They may be spreading it out over more weeks than there are episodes, but it's like we're dropping like this chunk of the season on this day and then this chunk of the season on this day. And then on this day, the penultimate episode and on this day, the finale
Laura:Wow,
Xhafer:over two
Laura:a mixed methods approach.
Xhafer:They're just trying anything. Yeah, we pick up, uh, right where we left off. SOL's suggesting getting the big guns turned on Pegasus. While Starbuck is being sneaky in the silent fleet, she uses her GoPro to get some action shots.
Laura:Yeah, she's got the Blackbird out there.
Xhafer:neither ship is willing to fire first here between Pegasus and Galactica. some fucking discipline Must be nice. The, the fighters are dancing around each other. The recon mission is recalled to help Kane's mission to kill Bill Adama.
Laura:Yeah. The Viper's all like flying around each other, just doing this weird game of dancing. Chicken is really stressful.
Xhafer:stressful. I was waiting for one of them to hit another one of them on accident.
Laura:Yeah, just because like, you know, we don't even have to have our guns blazing to be a danger to each other when we're all flying in close quarters.
Xhafer:the worst form of bumper carts.
Laura:Uh, and, uh, Lee is out there with his cag. They were gonna go on the recon mission. Is that right? That's why they're out and about,
Xhafer:Yeah, they're about, they were about to do the recon mission
Laura:that Starbuck is actually
Xhafer:Yeah. Yeah. Lee had sent Starbucks to like, do the recon mission on the dl and then, uh, Lee and, uh, what's his name? Spicer or something?
Laura:Yeah. Some
Xhafer:yeah. Some guy who fucking cares.
Laura:But yeah, he immediately relieves Lee of duty like,
Xhafer:Yeah.
Laura:but he sticks him in the back where he is still got a computer that he still has access to.
Xhafer:Yeah, he just starts texting. Kara, you like, guess where I am? LOL.
Laura:Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she's been, she's been busy. She got some really close up shots. Was she flying through the resurrection ship? I
Xhafer:Yeah. She flies through the ship,
Laura:Yeah. Now listener. If you haven't watched this episode lately, I wanna remind you of what the resurrection ship looks like. So the resurrection ship looks like we had a like basic spider design that we were just gonna put on something and we just hit Control V, control V, or control C, control V, control C, control V over and over and over again, and it just stacked up on itself.
Xhafer:Yeah.
Laura:And became like this long chain of little spidery things.
Xhafer:It's weird. It looks different than all the other Cy Ships.
Laura:Uhhuh.
Xhafer:I look at it and I think it's supposed to be Moby Dick, like I think it's supposed to be the whale. 'cause it looks like it's kind of like whale bone, like a rib cage almost to me.
Laura:Okay. Okay.
Xhafer:And so I'm wondering if it's supposed to be like, this is not, I, there's nothing about it in the book that I remember, but I wonder if it was supposed to be like evocative of like that, like this is Kane's white whale.
Laura:It's kind of a rack of ribs,
Xhafer:Yeah,
Laura:two racks of ribs, like put together. I don't know,
Xhafer:that, that's a rib cage.
Laura:I guess, uh The Cy bodies that resurrect are like in little pods throughout the rib structure. Throughout the rib cage.
Xhafer:Yeah. They're in those glass elevators on the sides of buildings that are way too scary for no reason.
Laura:Yeah. Why? Why would you do that? Don't do that. No one needs to see that.
Xhafer:No one wants to be there.
Laura:It give me like vertigo, just watching things go by. Sounds awful.
Xhafer:It's miserable.
Laura:Yeah, so weird ship. Everything else, I guess. We've seen bay stars and we've seen Raiders and the other ship, the like drop ship. Yeah. Everything else is like very smooth. Like we've got curvy
Xhafer:Yeah. They're all
Laura:the resurrection ship is angles.
Xhafer:they're all crummy and curvy on the outside, and this is like. Not crummy and not curvy at all. It is very, very different.
Laura:Interesting. Gotta keep it fresh
Xhafer:Mm-hmm. Yeah. They're not the Borg. Come on.
Laura:Yeah. Yeah. Cubes. Let's make it weird. Let's make one of 'em a circle.
Xhafer:God, there are some weird ass Borg ships for no reason. Like, let's do other shapes. Fuck it. Like at the end of Voyager there, they were just throwing all kinds of random shit. Borg Octagon, fuck it. Or there's a di, there's a diamond. I think, actually I don't, there's not actually an octagon, I don't
Laura:I mean, if lower decks were to come back and throw up a dodecahedron, everyone would lose their minds.
Xhafer:it's like we've got the leftover thing from seven days that's off the air. We need just bfy this and throw it on TV somehow. Save a couple bucks. I just made like two listeners days. Exactly. Two.
Laura:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So all of this mess gets broken up by Dradis, contact unknown Dradis,
Xhafer:Yep. It's gotta be a silent Raider because?
Laura:of course,
Xhafer:Because what else could it be?
Laura:and nobody. Remembers. I think the only person that mentions like that the Blackbird is gone. We have, um, oh, what's the new chief's name? Pegasus. Chief
Xhafer:Well, he's galactic, achieve now layered.
Laura:Well, yeah, yeah. But he came from Pegasus, you know what I mean? Um, Laird I think mentions like, oh, hey, the blackbird's not here. Somebody mentions it and then, oh. It's not a silent Raider at all.
Xhafer:She turns her helmet on so that they can know who she is, and she's all like, Hey, we're all friendlies here. Let's, let's be friendly, please.
Laura:And Ty and Adama actually like thank, they're thanking the gods for Starbuck and her crazy ass shit. Crazy ass
Xhafer:finally, once it's in our favor for real, just completely Starbucks sends her GoPro footage over to Kane who loves the sick kick flip or whatever people use those things for because they make Blair Lich look like it was shut on a steady cam perverts, right? That's who buys GoPros. I don't know what else
Laura:Oh, I bought a GoPro, but it was when we were going scuba diving.
Xhafer:Yeah. Okay.
Laura:Well, not sc, we were going snorkeling, but yeah, I wanted to get snorkel pictures with my GoPro. That was my goal. Yeah.
Xhafer:All right. It's just, it's a tiny camera that you could just put anywhere, and I'm just all like, what use does this have?
Laura:I'm just peeping on some T turtles, bro.
Xhafer:You didn't get those sea Turtles permission to be filmed.
Laura:Oh, that's true. That's true. Next time I'll go down with a little clipboard.
Xhafer:Yeah, Yeah, Get some waiver signed. A hundred percent. Ask if they wanna be guests on the podcast. Fuck it.
Laura:Yeah. Why not?
Xhafer:Kain agrees to stand down and meet on Colonial one to talk it out while the footage star bes brought back is CSI enhanced to reveal a block of sixes just naked, facing out into space.
Laura:Yeah.
Xhafer:Weird choices.
Laura:Weird elevator. So weird.
Xhafer:Just like put them on the inside. They're the precious cargo. Right? Like are these like the ones that you care about less than the ones that you resurrect in the lat worst case scenario, like,
Laura:Maybe they have to be on the outside in order to pick up the signals. You know, like when one dies and is like beaming itself back, like if they're too far in the ship, they're just not gonna make it.
Xhafer:Also, I want to bitch about something right now. I don't remember if this comes up later, but wouldn't you like instantly know all of the cys now?
Laura:Ah, we should, I guess maybe, maybe they're implying that this is just like a ship full of sixes. I don't know,
Xhafer:if, yeah. it's like you would think you would be like, at the very least, you'd get one that you don't know about.
Laura:you would think that if this ship is following the fleet. It should have everybody of the CYS in the fleet on
Xhafer:At the, yeah. Every, every silent who's in the fleet would be on this thing, and you might not bother with if there were silences that were not in the fleet, like, what's his name back on Capa. Jonas
Laura:If we have no Simons in the fleet,
Xhafer:Yeah. Then whatever. Simon doesn't need to be on board, but like, maybe that's what six is like. They know. They know six, so they just put all the sixes on the outside. I don't think it's ever addressed. I don't remember it being addressed. Um, and it's definitely not addressed in part one or part two after they, and I'm just like, this is such a fucking glaring pothole to me, where it's just like, you figure you'd at least get one.
Laura:Yeah. Or that somebody,
Xhafer:is.
Laura:that somebody looking at those pictures might say, Hey, before we go totally destroy this. Somebody needs to try to get pictures of the rest of 'em.
Xhafer:Well, she
Laura:You know?
Xhafer:she got up in there so close. It's like she took so many photos, you're gonna tell me that there's nothing in there. They could only enhance the one to show sixes.
Laura:She had her thumb over the lens for like half of it. That's gotta be it.
Xhafer:That's gotta be it. Survivor count, we go to theme survivor Count 49,000 6 0 4. We are down just one dead rapist.
Laura:Yeah. Hmm. There's my tiny violin.
Xhafer:yeah, yeah. That guy was the fucking worst.
Laura:Yep.
Xhafer:Rosalyn lectures the military leaders on how this is their collective fuck up.
Laura:Okay. So. I don't remember if we came up with this last time, or I just came up with it in my notes, but if, if Rosalyn is mommy Right. And Adama is Papa Dama, as we've said I started calling Kain Auntie Kain.
Xhafer:Okay. I'm here for that.
Laura:Okay.
Xhafer:Kane is like, fuck y'all, fuck everything as MPUs gets my way or the highway plays and she treats Colonial one like our personal rage room.
Laura:Yeah. Yeah. Auntie Kane's got some things she's needing to work out.
Xhafer:Rosalyn is like our op. Your options are fight or compromise. There is no other option. And Kane is like lies. Delay is an option. I'll be choosing Delay.
Laura:I do, I do agree with, uh, the k and m on this point that like, when you feel like you have no good options, maybe delay.
Xhafer:Yeah, maybe wait a little bit, see what happens.
Laura:Yeah. Never know.
Xhafer:A little more information might make things a lot better.
Laura:It's the procrastinator's anthem.
Xhafer:Yeah. I mean, there comes a time, but
Laura:Mm-hmm.
Xhafer:was, this is a good time to delay.
Laura:Not bad. Not bad. Yeah.
Xhafer:Kane promotes Kara to captain and makes her Pegasus cag stinger let the whole thing with her sneaking off and doing a mission happen and Elise and Adama. But Kane sees herself in Starbuck and rewards her initiative.
Laura:Yeah. Hmm.
Xhafer:Yeah. She starts to win Kara over a little bit here by not giving a fuck about Earth and asserting the fleet's real goal should be returning to the colonies after genocide and all of the silence.
Laura:Yeah, we're just gonna go get Caprica back is her promise to Starbuck.
Xhafer:Yeah.
Laura:And I don't think I ever get to find out how genuine this thought was because, I don't know. 'cause she's just saying what Starbuck wants to hear. I mean, she probably really does wanna kill all the cys and just like,
Xhafer:She's very prosy genocide.
Laura:yeah. but I don't know how realistic your thoughts are here. Auntie Kane.
Xhafer:Yeah. Bit of a stretch goal. Probably not gonna hit it on this Kickstarter campaign.
Laura:Yeah, those cylons pretty strong. That's all I'm saying.
Xhafer:Laura tells Bill that he's going to have to kill Kane, and then that's the only way to protect the fleet.
Laura:Yeah, and I mean, I kind of felt this way too right here. Like I was like, there's no way. They talked about Laird having been a civilian, and they're very cagey about how he got on Galactic. I was like, there's no way she's gonna. Like be down for protecting this small group of slower ships, undefended ships, or, you know, they can't truly defend themselves from silents. There's no way this woman is gonna be like, oh yeah, I'm gonna be your new babysitter. Like, nah. So
Xhafer:That can
Laura:I don't think she has their interest in mind at all.
Xhafer:Nope. Coddle has examined Sharon and they talk with Adama about what happened. Man, that coddles fucking great.
Laura:Yeah.
Xhafer:don't feel like I've got a whole lot to say about this scene, uh, because it's so fucking sad and deep that I don't feel like I really have any place to comment on it.
Laura:Yeah. They do, like, do the, the rundown of she's got no permanent physical damage. The baby seems to be
Xhafer:Broken rib,
Laura:rib. Adama tries to be comforting, I guess. cause he, he reassures Sharon that, you know, these, these men were not from Galactica that tried to do that to you. And, he's trying to promise that Helo and Tear aren't gonna get executed, even though that's so not within like his power.
Xhafer:Mm-hmm.
Laura:and I, I feel like these two men are doing their best in this scene. Like Doc Cuddles telling her that that was unforgivable what was happening to you and. Adama takes the chance to personally apologize because it was on his ship, which means it was under his eyes and it shouldn't have happened. and he wants her to be fully taken care of before she's returned back to her prison cell. So all kind of weird, but I feel like they're doing their best under some gosh dang weird circumstances that they don't know how to navigate.
Xhafer:Yeah. It's, uh, it's shitty.
Laura:Yeah, and I mean, we can always argue and say, well, they should have done X, Y, Z, but like sometimes doing your best is still not the best.
Xhafer:yeah.
Laura:But they're making an attempt and some people aren't even making an attempt, so,
Xhafer:Oh well, yeah. Most people don't give a fuck unfortunately. But that comes a little bit later. Before we get there Gaas is in his mind. Palace telling us he's bored of his mind. Palace, he doesn't miss Caprica anymore. Six PT does. She misses the Pyramid Games.
Laura:Yeah. Weird.
Xhafer:I have a like logistics question.
Laura:Okay.
Xhafer:make the Pyramid Games sound like this is like a soccer or football type thing,
Laura:Yeah, that's what I was assuming.
Xhafer:We have seen a regulation pyramid court and it is a third of the size of a tennis court.
Laura:I guess it would. So that was a regulation size court.
Xhafer:That Starbuck, that Starbuck calls it a regulation court
Laura:Hmm.
Xhafer:when she's giving Sanders shit about how they, the re revolution or whatever is spending their time and resources.
Laura:Yeah, it does seem pretty small.
Xhafer:it's so tiny how many people would be able to like, watch this game?
Laura:Yeah.
Xhafer:'cause they're talking about it like it's this huge crowd. But if it's like. That tiny, you know, you're fitting what, like a third of a basketball game audience in there?
Laura:Yeah, even if you have like where you've got the giant screens like they have at the basketball game, so the people who are way, way up can just watch the game on the screens or see most of the details up there. Yeah. Huh. That is weird.
Xhafer:yeah. Eh.
Laura:That's pretty small. Well, and she's talking about pyramid and I'm sitting there going, oh. You like the Pyramid Games 'cause you wanted to go watch the other Cylon Anders, is that right?
Xhafer:We cut back to reality to find him in Gina's cell. As Kane rolls in she kicks Gina.
Laura:Mm-hmm.
Xhafer:is like, what the fuck? And then Gina starts to beg him for death. Yeah.
Laura:Yeah, I was already pretty pissed at Kane for allowing Thorn to operate, period. And it's despicable no matter what, but I, I find a woman who's like, yeah, that's fine. To be extra despicable. and she's not above the kicking 'em while they're down either. So.
Xhafer:Nope.
Laura:Auntie Kane got some issues.
Xhafer:Cali gives dama the T about Pegasus former civilian fleet. Just a little, a little
Laura:Now we find out why this is weird.
Xhafer:Yeah. A little hint that Saul follows up on he loosened some lips with some alcohol and hears about how they were stripping ships down, leaving civilians stranded, and using violence on their families to ensure compliance when drafting them.
Laura:Yeah, they, he says they killed two families to get the useful people on board. They don't specify whether Laird's family was one of those families. Do they?
Xhafer:Not here.
Laura:Okay. I imagine since you've mentioned Razor is a prequel type thing that has to do with what happened to Pegasus before this? I would think it would come up there, I would hope.
Xhafer:A whole bunch of stuff comes up there that is important from these three episodes.
Laura:Yeah, I would imagine so. Okay.
Xhafer:it's kind of in a weird place. Razor. I mean, it's designed to have stuff that like feeds in a little bit to season four. but it takes place exclusively in the past from where we are in the show right now.
Laura:Yeah.
Xhafer:But it's also, they just had the time and the budget so they just said, fuck it and did it.
Laura:Well, I'm, I'm interested. I'm already anticipating it's going to be incredibly dark.
Xhafer:you don't even know.
Laura:Yeah, yeah. Somewhere in between here. We also had Hilo and 2-year-old just like wondering what's up,
Xhafer:Yeah.
Laura:why aren't we dead yet? We were told we're being executed. And then they get told, Hey. We are postponing your execution till after this military event that's going on.
Xhafer:the big thing, there's gonna be a parade. yeah, so they're waiting. Uh,
Laura:Yeah. Lee goes to visit
Xhafer:Yeah. On Kara and a surprise to find her carrying on given all of this man empathized.
Laura:Yeah. Yeah. Um, he's like given her the, the rundown on Hilo and Terl and she's like, I need help figuring out the schedule.
Xhafer:Yep. Yeah. Uh, listener for a little bit of context. We recorded Black Hawk down last week, Uh, when we had mentioned that, uh, there's some stuff going on with Iran, but nothing had really happened yet. Well, shit happened for us as of recording last night. Not a whole lot has gone on since. So that's where we're at for when this comes out in a couple of weeks.
Laura:Hmm.
Xhafer:Yep.
Laura:Yeah, and I'm sure it'll be different by the time this comes out too, so that'll be even more
Xhafer:Yeah. Ho Hopefully it's better in a good way. I, I don't know how that's possible right now, but
Laura:right?
Xhafer:I'll, I'll hope,
Laura:Lee is surprised that she's just carrying on and she's like, well, what the fuck else am I supposed to do? Like there's nothing that we can do about this, which is such a like flip-flop of their two attitudes, right?
Xhafer:Mm-hmm.
Laura:I feel like beginning of the show, Starbuck would be railing at this moment and Lee would be reminding her, Hey, we have a job to do. And somewhere along the line they flipped.
Xhafer:Yeah, it's uh, it's an interesting little like, 'cause she's got the captain now, he's the lieutenant. So they've, they've, they've flopped ranks, they've flopped jobs, and in a lot of ways they've flopped personalities.
Laura:Yeah, it is very strange.
Xhafer:Yeah.
Laura:Is it just because she had Auntie Kain, like stroking her ego a little bit? I don't
Xhafer:Um, I'm, I mean, I'm sure that's a factor. There's enough stuff going on.
Laura:Mm-hmm.
Xhafer:Balter brings Gina a fresh summer fit so that she can stop wearing a potato sack. Balter wants to help, but she only seeks death. And when he's like, well, that's not really a thing for you. She tells us the reason for the eponymous episode, and this is where we learned that that weird ship is resurrection ship.
Laura:Yeah. This is where we upload back to when we die and we get our new bodies.
Xhafer:Yep.
Laura:So he also asked her if she knew she was a silo plant when she was in there because you know, boomer didn't know that she was a silent plant. And she says, yeah, I knew who and what I was, and I thought that when they caught me, they would just kill me. And I would be uploaded into a new body and everything would be fine, but instead they kept me alive and did all this shit to me and now I just want to die.
Xhafer:Yeah.
Laura:but if you don't destroy that ship, I'm just gonna upload into a new body. Having experienced all the things I've experienced, knowing all the things that I know and I don't want to.
Xhafer:Mm-hmm. Kaby and Baltar discuss and are even more intent on targeting that big old ship now.
Laura:Yeah. They think that maybe the silence will stop chasing us if they don't have the
Xhafer:Mm-hmm.
Laura:it would be too much work. But gais, oof.
Xhafer:Yeah.
Laura:He's, this isn't gonna make the six in his head. Very happy.
Xhafer:Just wait. Bill goes to see Laura and shares what Saul and Callie had heard about Kain. She reaffirms that Kain is dangerous to his life and must be stopped now almost every other time. She's talked about the danger before it has been. The fleet is in danger. The crew is in danger. The flotilla is in danger this time, it is very poignantly. Bill, you are in danger. She is going to try and kill you,
Laura:Mm-hmm.
Xhafer:which is a notable turn of language for Laura, nor someone who's normally very particular about what she says.
Laura:Yeah. Yeah. She's focused on the needs of the many, but. Now she's focused on the needs of the bill.
Xhafer:Yeah.
Laura:Oh, and throughout this, like Rosalyn is in her bathrobe in the scene, like she is extremely unwell.
Xhafer:yeah.
Laura:And Adama asks if he can get her anything 'cause he's being very sweet to mom. Rosalyn
Xhafer:Yeah.
Laura:And she says, A new body from the resurrection ship. And that just like made me sure that Rosalyn is a silent.
Xhafer:Yeah, just, you know, one of those, uh, ti super tiny blunts, please, you know, make me one of those.
Laura:Yeah, no, I was like, Aw, she's probably a silent, I just think she is. and I don't know. 'cause I, she supposedly got like weeks to days left at
Xhafer:It's not good. Yeah.
Laura:and we're not gonna lose her. I think. I think this is gonna resolve somehow. So this feels very silent. Tyre and Hilo were just like talking about their girlfriend in the cell while they're hanging out.
Xhafer:Yeah, they talk about their past and their future. You
Laura:Mm-hmm.
Xhafer:chief is all like, I thought I was over. I was not over. I need to be over this and. He all like, man, I question shit all the time. I am in love with the fucking robot. So, yeah, that's, it's a weird place, dude.
Laura:Yeah. And he was like, I know I can't let go, but you should definitely let go if you can, because this sucks.
Xhafer:Yeah.
Laura:Uh.
Xhafer:both spend time at their desks figuring out how they are going to handle after the attack. Star bes takes everyone over their plan. We're gonna use this diversion tactic. We're gonna make it look like we're mining, but that's, you know, false flag operation. They're gonna fall for it. We're gonna drag 'em off this way, you know, we're gonna make 'em think they're ship's injured. And then surprise, boom, battle stars blowing up your shit.
Laura:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I, and I mean, star Be's is a good planner. She's had some crazy shit that worked, so I, I trust her with this. Uh, she does say we're gonna need all the Viper squadrons. There is nobody who can sit in reserve.
Xhafer:Yep.
Laura:This is the time.
Xhafer:Everyone's flying on this one.
Laura:And Adama at the end of this says he has some more questions for the cag.
Xhafer:Yeah. Let's talk about it a little bit more.
Laura:Yeah. Auntie Kane split everyone up for a reason, though she's not super keen on Adama talking to Stary, but she's going to allow them one hour.
Xhafer:Mm-hmm.
Laura:And he tells, uh, Adama tells Lee to stay focused as he leaves.
Xhafer:We cut back and forth here as Kain and Adama both put their plots in place. Kain is embedding marines on Galactica razors. She calls 'em while Ja or Exo will be stationed there. He's to kill Adama on her command execute case orange.
Laura:Yeah,
Xhafer:Three words you would not say randomly together. So.
Laura:yeah. So Auntie Kane and Papa dama are planning to boomer each other.
Xhafer:Yeah, Adama's like star bees. You're gonna hear me say downfall and you're gonna fucking shoot her in the head
Laura:Yeah.
Xhafer:and that's how we go to credits, which is just crazy.
Laura:Yeah, and I turned to immediately Aaron and I said, they're gonna boomer each other, and he was like, oh, I guess they are.
Xhafer:they are. Yeah, a hundred percent. That's the plan. Walk into CIC and shoot the commander. Yep.
Laura:it's a real boomer.
Xhafer:I mean, it worked well the first time, so no reason to not go back to that. Well,
Laura:Yeah. Yeah. I was like, huh, well that makes it like extra interesting how this is gonna turn out. Then like I, I was like, all this has happened before and all this will happen again. Huh.
Xhafer:Yeah. Yeah. You get it. You get it. Next episode starts with one of those two.
Laura:I got it. Ronnie d I'm with you. I'm there.
Xhafer:All right. That is the episode.
Laura:Yes.
Xhafer:was like. It was not as dense as normal. It's very clear that this is a two-parter. It needed to be a two-parter, I think. I think this episode could have been maybe five minutes shorter. I don't think it'd be made better for it, but it it definitely could have been. Um,
Laura:Yeah. Yeah. But we have like the fun scenes of Adama and Kane ruminating separately in their other quarters. And Adama has like his little ships, you know, and Kane has like her antique weaponry,
Xhafer:Yeah.
Laura:juxtaposing their positions. And I don't know, I just, I, I liked it. I did feel even more stress in a way at the end, because I was thinking about how these two folks are setting up to boomer each other and. It wouldn't surprise me if Kane went through with it. I would feel bad if Adama went through with it. Because like literally that's exactly what happened to you guy. Like, and then you going and inflicting that upon someone else would not feel good, right? Like, hmm. So somehow I was more stressed at the end of this episode wanting Adama not to like lower himself in that way. 'cause Daddy Adama makes mistakes and he's allowed to be a human, but like that would be a pretty big one.
Xhafer:Yes, it would.
Laura:Yeah.
Xhafer:Well, that's
Laura:very suspenseful.
Xhafer:We're to be continued. Before we start talking about the next episode, we gotta rate this one on a scale of one to 12 colonies. Where you at?
Laura:Oh gosh. I feel like I give everything a 10. This is like grade inflated.
Xhafer:Yeah.
Laura:Viewing. I'm a very generous first time viewer, I think.
Xhafer:I mean, you're, you're enraptured right now. That's the show does that, that's why it's one of the greatest shows of all time on almost any list. So.
Laura:I really wondered this last episode that I watched, why, like, it never hit my radar before this. Like, I mean, Aaron had watched it and we talked about it and he. Encouraged me that it was a good show, but like none of my other sci-fi friends really like pushed it at me. And maybe part of it's the darkness of it. Like it's not one that I can see myself or or many people just watching over and over and over again. Like you could put Star Trek on a loop and you could watch a Star Trek every day and feel fine and happy, and maybe even like. Encouraged and better about yourself. I don't think you could just watch a battle. Most people cannot just watch a Battlestar Galactica every day and feel great and happy and fine.
Xhafer:No. No, I don't think they can. Nor should they.
Laura:Yeah. Like the ones that, I mean, if you're out there and that's you, I'm, you're strong, but I'm not there. Like,
Xhafer:I mean, it's, it's a lot of show. There's a lot
Laura:it's good. And I, I gotta give this a 10 like I am. I'm pretty impressed with it. I am appropriately suspended.
Xhafer:Yeah.
Laura:And I didn't even think about the thing they glossed over the thing that like, we should have seen more than just six in that damn ship. Like, until you said it, I was like, oh, that seems legit, you
Xhafer:Where the fuck are the other silos? How can we see one? No, and none of the other ones, it does not make any sense.
Laura:You know what, it would be cool if like, and I understand why they can't do this, but if, if like the cylon bodies were just like blank and then like once the CY personality uploaded, then they started growing their hair or whatever, you know?
Xhafer:Yeah, not on, not in the 2000 fives budget.
Laura:yeah, that's for the reboot.
Xhafer:Um, quite possibly. Yeah,
Laura:the, rebooted reboot.
Xhafer:I do. I would a hundred percent expect that actually that'd be a thing that you do very easily these days.
Laura:Yeah.
Xhafer:Um, I really like this episode. I think this is one of the stronger ones of season. One of a lot of my problems with season one was that everything moved too fast and it did not have the breathing room to tell the story that it needed to tell. That is not what happens here. We get the breathing room to tell the story that we want to tell, and I'm here for it and I love it. 11 out of 12,
Laura:Yeah. I mean when you think about it, Pegasus to end of Resurrection Ship part two, how many days even is that
Xhafer:so it, the start, Pegasus
Laura:Uhhuh?
Xhafer:is probably a day and a half.
Laura:Okay.
Xhafer:Um, you know, we from the uh, thorn getting killed to Lee showing up and talking to Teel and Hilo about a third of the way through this episode. So like the last third of Pegasus through, the first third of this is under two hours
Laura:Wow.
Xhafer:because, 'cause their trial was immediate and they said they were going to be executed in an hour, and then they're like, yeah, it's been has, it's been almost two. Right.
Laura:We're not dead yet. This is weird.
Xhafer:the phone call basically to now has been maybe an hour and a half. So yeah. that said, um, the next episode does jump back 48 hours to start where this one ends.
Laura:That's true.
Xhafer:So the next one takes place over two days, like three days, probably three and a half. But we'll talk about that next week when we're talking about. Battlestar Galactica, season two, episode 12, resurrection Ship Part D. The struggle between Aam and Cain is temporarily put on hold while the two battle stars combine forces for an assault on the silent resurrection ship. Apollo faces a momentous decision, and Baltar takes an interest in Gina, the silent prisoner
Laura:You already took an interest in Gina. That's,
Xhafer:Lee, not the one who faces a monumentous decision, but that's the episode description.
Laura:I don't know. I could argue that, but go ahead.
Xhafer:Yeah. Well, we'll, we'll argue it next week. But until we get there, we should probably say thank you. Start with, uh, Jeremy. Jeremy Siegel, are you the Jeremy Siegel 42 from Jeremy Siegel, 40 two.bandcamp.com. I believe you are. Thank you so much for our theme music. We appreciate the hell out of it. You can find more Jeremy's work on streaming services as nuclear jaguar.
Laura:Hey, did you know. Dropped today. New nuclear jaguar.
Xhafer:I did not, actually, I did. I missed that.
Laura:Yeah. Three hours ago. So I don't blame you. You were
Xhafer:Yeah. I was taking notes or I was at the work pride thing. Yeah. Okay.
Laura:Yeah, yeah. Three hours ago. Go, go get it.
Xhafer:Let's go.
Laura:and thanks to angry duck time machine on Instagram for our podcast artwork.
Xhafer:Aaron, thanks so much for editing this podcast. We appreciate the hell out of you making us funnier, making us listenable, and making sure we release on time. Best in the biz. Thanks so much.
Laura:And always cutting out the section that we say needs cut out.
Xhafer:I wouldn't know.
Laura:Yeah. And hey, if you enjoyed Resurrection Ship and you wanna talk about it, please get in our Discord, or you can always review the podcast. That wouldn't hurt either. Five star reviews only. Please one star reviews. Keep it to yourself.
Xhafer:channeling that Vic Energy. Alright, well we'll see you next week. Internet.
Laura:Bye.