¶ Introduction to the Podcast
Welcome to the Whitetail Advantage podcast with. Your host, Brett Bovin. Thank you for tuning in and enjoy the show. What is up, everybody? What's up, ladies? Going on, everybody. Oh, it's episode 159. It is June 22nd. Sunday, June 22nd. Not to mention it's hot as balls outside. Not to mention we're getting closer season, dude. Three and a half months. I can't stand this heat, man. Hey, Justin, our good follower Justin's on already, I see in the comments.
¶ Transition to Hunting Discussions
Hi, Justin. What up, Justin? Justin, call us. Way to be on time. Yeah, I'll put the number in a second. Yeah, bonus points for Justin for showing up on time. A couple things though. 10 ring news. Huh? Shut the up. Put a dick back in your mouth. Where was I? Yeah, 10 ring news. Like I said last week, we don't have a live show coming up this Tuesday or the Tuesday afternoon. I think the Tuesday after that one too. We have tonight's live show. We have next week's show. It's a trivia night.
It's between us First Boondocks Hunting. And it's also a team like Squatch is coming up with those questions. So it's gonna be squat. It's gonna be Johnny, me and Dave though. We're all gonna be battling each other in the same thing. And there are some other things but I can't remember. So I don't know if David's gonna be on. I hope so. Oh, that's right. So he might not be here though.
Either way, it's still going to be a competition between at least Johnny and I. Personally, yeah, I'm neutral because I have to host and come up with the questions and yeah, do all that fun stuff. So it's between you guys. What's up? Frank's on nice and early. Frank, you get bonus points too for showing up early. My man. Hi, Frank. Oh my gosh. Dude, Squatch, you drip. Are you sipping on Tippy Cow? No, dude. It's a freaking peanut butter chocolate milkshake.
You know, I was thinking, what if nobody wants to call into the show and then we just gotta figure out what the we want to talk about. No. You know what we need to do? We play 21 questions. Johnny, what's your favorite color? Oh my God. Oh my God. What's your favorite color? That's John's favorite color. Blood. That's right. What are you saying? I'm being stereo. Really matter what he was saying? I mean, it doesn't matter. I wish he'd just mute himself I wish you'd. I'm not gonna say it.
I'm gonna say it. Let's try to be. Hey, we're almost done with this gay month, okay? Oh, dude, I can't wait. You know what sucks is that the founder of this country, George Washington, it's one day, and he doesn't even get a full day to himself. He has to share all the other presidents, right? Yeah, but yet maybe if you blew a dude, he would have an entire month. You probably get the whole year. He did have wooden teeth. So you have Veterans Day, right? You'd sign up for the military.
You give your time and service, you get one day. Memorial Day, right? You die for this country, you get one day. That's it. One day. You like the sun, Dick? You got a whole month. Let's go. It's so backwards. Well, that. That's just. That's my rant. I've got beer and whiskey, so there's gonna be lots of rants tonight, man. Yes. Join Johnny as he inebriates his liver. To no extent. Oh, man. Nah, it's just training, dude. It's training for deer camp. That's good. Never a day off.
Yep. I'm looking forward to your camp. Anyways, tonight is calling night. If people want to call into the show, we'll give them. If people. If they have somebody on the line and someone comes on the show and they say they want to come on, put a message, like in the comments or section or text me or message us. Message me on something, and then we'll kind of wrap it up with that person. Why don't we call people? Just put it in the freaking comments. Hey, I want to call in and then call in.
Yeah. If you want to call in, put in the comments. There you go. Remember, it's 269S716, Brett Lowe's. Well, I won't say it. Oh, 6, 44. That's my waist size. So there you go. Yeah. All right. Hey, what's worse than it. A girl running with the scissors? What? Two girls scissoring with the runs. Oh, that's okay. That's. Oh, man. Dude, Justin, call in. Justin's gonna call in. We'll get her done. Justin talk to you? Come on. The whole month. He does, too, man. You see that in the comments?
Here, I'll post it up for you. I love it. There we go. I like my month. Rick gets a whole month. Yeah, that's what golfing will do to you. Oh, man. Golf is off limits. Hey, hey, hey, hey. Oh, Brett, look, you have another wife laughing at you. My life left. Oh, man. So how's your guys week going? Dude, I know we're stuck in this. Mine. Majorly sucked because we were paving, but it wasn't really balls hot, so that was good. And this one. Hello? Done. Are they there? Hang on.
Brett, you ain't got this down yet? Hello? What's up, fellas? There you go. Sorry, I had the volume button on my panel down. Can you hear us? Who is this? Justin? Yep. Yeah, it's Justin. Oh, it's. Nice voice. He's got a nice voice. Hi, Justin. Now, that was a little gay. All right. That's why I did it like that. Brett was supposed to be. Justin. What's up, my man? What do you want to talk about, brother? Oh, I don't know. What. What you guys got in store tonight, man? Hunting.
I love hunting, man. Yo, man. Fishing. All outdoors. Let's do it. Tell us about hunting. Yeah. What do you want to talk about? Something on your mind you want to talk about that we haven't talked about on the show yet? Yeah. Story you want to share with us? What do you want to. What do you want to talk about, brother? Maybe. Maybe ask. I don't know. What's that? No, I was gonna say have one of us removed off the show that you don't like one of us or something.
You know, whatever you want to bring up. It's easy. No, you guys are awesome, man. You guys are awesome. Thanks. Love this, man. Not. Not many. Not. Not too many podcasts like this. We. We should have a. Like a Survivor episode where people can call in and vote people off and the last man standing wins the trophy, right? Oh, yeah, that'd be sweet. So just about halfway through the show. Where are you calling from? Are you there? So I'm from Indiana. Martinsville.
It's like Central South Central, Just about a half hour below Indianapolis. Nice. Nice. Yeah, that's not that bad. No, I'm like. I got. Oh, it's. It's perfect for, like, hunting, man, because we got Hoosier National, Morgan Monroe, Riviana Forestry, which is like two minutes from my house. Not a lot. It's a couple thousand acres, but still. Still nice to go hit up. Yeah, I'm question for you. Since you're in Indiana, are you a big college football guy or. No?
I mean, I. Look, I. I wouldn't say I'm like, hardcore, but I'm a big Irish fan. There we go. That's my answer. That's what I was Looking for. Yeah. Good talking. We will talk to you guys later. All right, later, Johnny. No, no, I mean, I'm not like. I'm not like a die hard sports guy. I, I played sports as a kid and stuff, but. And Johnny's gone. I kn. Go that quick. I'd have been Irish all earlier, man. I'm never true. Oh yeah, but no, yeah, I mean, I'm somewhat sports, but I'm more of a man.
If I can be in the woods or, you know, I'm, I'm there. And I got a, I got a pretty cool wife where she, she understands well, she knows we've been together 20 years, so she, she used to. Not, I, I don't know. Her dad's a hunter, so she was kind of used to it, but not as hardcore as I am, so. Yeah, right. I got fortunate enough. I told my wife, she, she grew up in the outdoor world and her father was a Marine. Her brother is a Marine as well.
So she kind of got the whole, she understood the time away from home aspect of it all and then outside with in hunting world too. So I really lucked out with there. And I told my wife on our very first date, I said, in the fall, you're not going to see me Sunday through Friday, I'm gonna be in the tree stand. And on Saturdays, my ass is gonna be sitting in my chair watching college football. Yeah, but you forgot to say that you're not gonna see my ass. What about, what about from like 2 to 3?
Because you're not a morning guy. You don't hunt mornings, Brett. That's what I was gonna say. He's always in the bed, isn't he? Yeah, I'm in the. Man. Yeah, I don't, I'm not a big morning guy. That discussion went well. You know, Russ, you know, rut season ain't so bad for you then because, you know, you can get out there late, it's not a big deal, you know, but early season, you got to get out there earlier. You got, you gotta, you know, I mean, you can do some evening hunts.
They're not too bad, but. No, get there, get there when I can and as early as possible. And I usually try to sit as long as I can. Now saddle hunting, man, I can sit all day. Yeah, I, I, I'll get out in the, in the woods in the morning, though. And when it comes to rut, that's when I'll get out there and yeah. See, like, I mean, I'm a, I, I, I'll hit the Hit it. Mornings a lot, but, like, rut. It's weird. I'll sleep in a little more. Oh, okay. Is. Is there a reason why, or is it just because.
Well, last few years, my. I had to get my son on the bus, so that was kind of okay, you know? And it did screw me this year because I was chasing a really nice one. Kind of played it easy the first time you come through. Next time, I was set. I was. Got to my stand and tied my rope to my. I use crossbow. I know you guys knock them, but. Hey, you know what? Use what you use. You're in the woods. Exactly. Yes, sir. But no, I had. I tied my rope to my damn stand or to my.
To my crossbow, and I heard something. I look behind me, and this son of a. Is coming down the hill. I turn around, and, like, he. He turns, and he's like 20 yards away. I pull up, and I'm stepping on my rope, and it's like, I can't get. I can't get him in my sights. I'm like. And he. Moses off. It's. It's like the ravine. So I. I use a can call a lot of times. I mean, I grunt, too, but I. And I blow into him. Like, I don't know if you guys do that, but. Man, I don't like to blow dudes.
But I don't like to blow in. Well, I don't blow dudes. I blow it. No call, but. But no. Yeah, so I blow in it, and he turns, and he's coming, and I was just. Man, I know you guys have been there where you just froze up, and. Yeah, so I kind of screwed that up. So. If I'd have been in the stand early, I'm sure I'd have probably had a better shot at him, but, you know, that's the ones that always get away that gets you the worst, I think, you know, so those made for.
The best stories, too, later on. Oh, man. Yeah. Oh, you know what I like to look at it as? It's catch and release. Like when you're bass fishing, you know? Right. You're just playing catch and release with the deer for next time, you know? True. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So. But I'm hoping. Hoping next year I could have got him. Last year, during rifle season, I was coming out of the stand, and he.
He. By the time he figured out where I was coming and going, so he was bedded close to the house. People that let me hunt there. And so I was coming out of the out of the sand. And he jumped up like, 30 yards from behind their house. I wasn't gonna crack a shot, you know, because I, I don't know. I. Justin, you didn't want to make the people uncomfortable, screw up, you know, a good spot I got.
¶ The Art of Deer Hunting: Strategies and Experiences
So I was like, well, maybe next year. So, Justin, you actually said something that made me think of this. So I was, I can't. I don't know where, how I got this, this photo, but this. There's a quote by Barry Wensell. He says, bow hunting is a game of how close, not how far. And we've had a lot of people come on the show and they're like, they talk about. Since we're on the topic of rut, you generally like to get, as. In my mind, you want to be as close as you can to the rut.
Their, their bedding area to, like, dough betting areas. But not like, too close, because you're like, oh, you don't want to freak them out. I read Be Style, baby. Yeah, I read that quote, and I was like, man, that really is true. We always talk about, well, we don't want to be too close to him. We don't want to scare anything like that. In my mind, I want to be almost right on top of them, if. I can, in their, in their bedroom, man. So Dan Infolt says it real good.
He says, man, you know, you can get in there, but, I mean, you gotta, you gotta play it in a sense, because you ever walk in here if, if somebody was in your house and you walked in, you know they're there, so you gotta be, you know, you don't get too close in there. But yeah, man, that's, that's, that's how to get them. You got to get in there, into their bedrooms, or at least in between their bedrooms and their food sources.
Hey, while we're on that subject, not to interrupt you, I'm sorry, but I, I, I am doing something this year that I haven't done in prior years. In my stands, I'm making silhouettes of a person, and I'm actually leaving a shirt that I've worked in all day and setting it in the stage. Get your sin out there so they're not uncomfortable. Right this way. They're kind of used to that in there. You know what I mean?
And if you get it in there early enough, if you get it in there early enough, then, you know, you've got a better chance of them not spooking to you. Like, I wouldn't suggest doing it like, In September, man. Do it. Do it now. Get it out there. Put it out there. You know, this way at least they're like, if they look. They look up and they kind of sense something and they're like, huh? You know? But you got to go out there every.
I don't know, maybe like every week, depending on the weather, and kind of switch it up, you know? I mean. But don't let them pattern you either. But I'm gonna try it in one spot, man. I want to see if it. If it makes a difference, you know? Yeah, I've definitely thought about that because I've got. I. I'm mainly saddle, but I've got a few spots that I hunt out of stands. Like, my buddy has that golf course close to my house. I hung out there, which is awesome because it's reduction zone.
So it's like September to. Into January. But yeah, I thought about sitting them out there, man. Just because deer, they. If they're very good about noticing something that's out of. Out of whack, you know. Now sometimes. And deer are curious, though, too, though, so. But most. Yeah, I definitely think that would work. Stick it out there. Get. Get your scent going, you know, You. Like you said, don't do it in September. Spook them, run them out of there.
Because then you won't see them until December or January or who knows when, you know? But get them used to it, in a sense. Yeah, but I. I would definitely try it, man. Yeah. Worst is going to happen is it don't work out, and then next year you try it something different. I've had that idea for, like, years and been talking about that and where it's like. Because I live in a neighborhood and I always think to myself, you can trained deer like cattle. So, yeah, I look at like this.
If you're just going out there to move trail cameras around there, and you're like out there once a month, and then you get out there on opening day, like, for us, it's October 1st. And you come out there October 1st, and you're like, oh, what the. Is that smell? That's new. And they get all freaked out and they jump around. And with me living in a neighborhood, I got deer basically in my backyard. So it's like they get used to it. So if you put, like Squatch said, put a silhouette out there.
And there actually was a product a couple years back, I can't remember the name of it, but it went like, it like crash and burn. But I. I strongly believe that if you put Like a silhouette out there, like a scarecrow type deal. And put a shirt on you that you would wear generally on a normal day because you're still going to be producing that normal scent pheromones from your actual odor from your body.
And you put that out there in the woods and throughout the year they're gonna be like, oh, okay, that's something new. And you go out there and you're actually out there at hunting. That's. They're not going to be as spooked in my opinion. Dude, they're gonna be less jumpy. How funny would it be to do that? And instead of trail camera up to wash your stand and then touch. I was thinking catch some DNR officer, check it out. Like, oh man.
Just spotted a hunter in mid, mid August and it's just some dummy up there. Oh yeah, that's no different in the fall. There's still a dummy up there. No game Mormon. Oh yeah. I hunt a lot. All I hunt is public land. And what I've found is I hunt right off of major hiking trails. So I'll be in my stand because I saddle hunt too. So I'm a, you know, I'll get up in a tree and I'll sit. I'll have people watching their dogs right past, you know, 30 yards to the north.
And I've had deer come right out after they leave. So yeah, there's. They're used to that. Absolutely. And like you were saying, you hunt a dog horse and so do I. In the, in west Michigan here. And it's a 14 acre parcel that's just pines but loaded down with deer. And it's awesome because there's slow use to people that you don't have to worry about scent control as much. And you can just go out there and they'll come right to you. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I, Man, I've. I seen.
I saw more deer at the golf course this year than I did anywhere else. It was crazy. Like every time I sat there, you know, I saw deer weather, you know, but I'm real and see out there, I usually hunt with a rifle because, you know, if you can use it, why not? But I'm real leery about where the shots are and a lot of times the deer are in between. Where like, you know, the road or houses or whatever. So you got to wait for that special shop. But. But yeah, man, they're. It's crazy.
They get used to that human scent. They're not spooked. Like, my aunt has property in Greenwood, which is like it's like a real dense, it's kind of like a, it's just big city, I guess you'd say. And, but she's got a little bit of, she's got a little bit of woods and there's some woods that connect to the house. It's like, I think most of it's like maybe 30 acres total of woods and the rest of it's all just housing additions.
But man, like I'll be sitting there and people will be walking their dogs like you said. And then two minutes, three minutes after they go, here come the deer. And it's like they wait until as soon as the people go, they come right through. Like they just, they're not scared, you know, they're not scared now. It's totally different.
Like when you're out on some private out or not private, some public out in the middle of bfe, you know, if you see a person walking, you ain't gonna probably see a deer because they're not used to it. But as long as you stay on that tra. That path, you know, Dan Impal does that a lot. I watch a lot of his stuff. I'm a big hunt beast guy. But he, he, he, he says, you know, if you don't get off the path too much or whatever, you'll be all right.
You know, just when they, when they smell the scent, not normally, like if you're off the path 20, 30 yards, they're going to probably smell it, you know, but if you get right off of it, you'll probably be fine. Yeah, and that's what I've been doing like you know, the past couple years where I'll hunt right on a trail or I'll find those like real small at two 3 acre parcels that are on the other side of a large state land area.
And I'll hunt those small parcels and I'll have success because it's those overlooked spots that people don't think that, oh, there's no deer out there. Then everyone pushes in, you know, they think they have to hunt a mile in, so they'll go out there, push all the deer out. And I'm, I mean, I'm getting up there in age, so I don't want to walk out there miles and miles. I'll hunt that little three acre lot. I don't care. Hell yeah, you're still gonna get deer. It's, you know, so. Absolutely.
Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. I, I last few years, man, I was putting in the miles. I mean, I was going deep as I could get, man. And it, what didn't seem like it was producing any much more than, you know, if you were just getting off where you wouldn't think people would be, you know. And it seems to produce just as much so. But I'm like a 5050 though, like half the time on public, half time on private. It just depends.
Like if I'm hunting with buddies, a lot of times, I hate to say it, I go public because I don't, you know, there's more, more area, more room, stuff like that. But if I'm by myself or like my father in law or my, my son or something, we're usually hitting our public or I'm a privates, I mean, you know, smaller, smaller chunks and stuff. So I know like if I was to take bread out hunting, I would take them to private or to public and not the normal public that I hunt. Hey, don't spot.
I've seen deer out here. Yeah, I mean I got some public that I hunt that I've had some nice deer on lately and that, that's going to be my spot this year. Just a little tip too. When you're out going in, you're going in the woods further and further and further. When you got somebody with you, keep that person back a ways because a lot of times you're going in deep and a deer will double back and come around and get. Oh yeah.
So have somebody stay shallow, you know, further back where you first came in because you want to watch your six, man. Those, those deer will double back on you. Yeah, I think I watched the podcast you guys had. Was it at that a ditter odd buck guy or something like that was talking about that maybe. Or it was one of those guys. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, man, I would.
Yeah, that is a good idea because I mean I've had that happen before where I've jumped them out, you know, and then I've climbed up and then sometimes bucks, they'll come back to that bed, you know, or at least that area. So. Oh yeah, yeah. Just.
¶ New Hunting Season Excitement
You guys getting excited about the season? Yeah, man. No, not at all. I'm actually not giving up hunting. Really? Well, I mean, you know. Well, you'd be able to sleep a little more. So Brett is going to be very busy this year with the upcoming, upcoming cosmetic line that he's doing for Golf Cosmetics. It's a whole new venture he's on. So he's working on like, you know, concealer and stuff to hide his ginger isms that he has going on. And I'm proud of my ginger.
Yeah. Justin, we got some other people that might want. Looks like they want to call in. Is there anything last you want to say, brother? No. I appreciate you guys, man. Love the show. Try to catch it as much as I can here. Lately I've been a little busier, but yeah, keep up the work, guys. And I'm gonna be in Michigan next week, so I don't know if you guys are busy or whatever, but I might try to get with y' all. What part of Michigan? A little bit. A little bit of everything. I'm actually.
We go to Michigan a lot. My wife loves it, so. And. But we're going to Mio or Mayo or something, which is like the northeast side. We're gonna. Which is like BFE looking kind of. There's not much. Nothing around there, but we're gonna hit that. Then we're gonna hit like Mac Nack. We're gonna go up to the up, because my wife loves rocks. So we're gonna look for like upper lights and stuff. Oh, I did. I've been a bunch of Euber lights here, man. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, we. Shoot me.
Shoot me a DM on my Instagram and we'll link up for sure, brother. Well, dude, I don't have Instagram. I'm a. I'm a real like. I have his number right here, Johnny, you dumbass. Okay, yeah, I'm not real high tech savvy, but yeah, get my number and yeah, hit me up because, yeah, we're gonna be there 27th through at least the second. We're planning on maybe until the 5th. We're staying with like my sister. We're.
We're going all going up like my in laws and we're gonna stay there for like five, six days, and then we're gonna slowly work our way back to Indiana, so. Well, I don't want to hang out with you because you called it Mackinac. Well, we're going to Mackinac. Well, we're going to Mackinac and Mackinac. So Mackinac is below, right, If I'm not mistaken. And then Mackinac is the island, right? No, there's no such thing as Macanac. And then you also. Is there not no such.
There's no such thing as Mackinac. That's just another version of calling Mackinaw. Really? So, okay, yeah, there's not like. Because I have a shirt that says no, no, there's. I swear to God, there's no city. Is it pronounced Mackinac? It's pronounced Mackinac. But every. There's like no city called Mackinac. It's like Mackinac. That's another term. Yeah. Like a lot of northerners and UPS call Mackinac and Mackinac. Right. I did not know that. Well, now you know. So you. I don't want to see.
I know. You guys are. You guys are what, South. You guys are what, Southwest Michigan, right? Yeah. I'm like. I'm like hour and a half to two hours away from the border. Like from n. Yeah. Because we always. We're. We're what's up. So I drove down to Terre Ho quite a bit. Yeah. Which is probably what, like 40 minutes north of you. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. If you hit. Yeah. Go up. Hit 70. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. And it takes me like two hours to get there. Maybe two and a half. Yeah. So I can be.
I ain't gonna lie. I smoke a little weed. So I go to. You guys have a lot cheaper. But anyways, so we go to Niles or, you know, and it's like three hour trip, so. Yeah. I was actually in Niles earlier today, so. Okay. Yeah. So we go. Yeah. Like, we go up there about every November for my anniversary, which hopefully we're gonna do some hunting one time. My wife always says we're gonna do it. And then every year we just go rock cutting instead. So Michael, man, he's.
I said bored, and he goes, you cross the border, Brett, you illegal. I'm gonna call ice on you. They're going after gingers now, huh? Apparently. El Bandejo gingers. Well, Michael wants me to. Shot in a beer. Oh, man. 43 now. Shotgun beard. I drink whiskey. Geez. All right, Justin, man. Well, you guys. You guys take it easy, man. Appreciate you letting me calling in and hopefully see you soon. We'll have to get together sometime, Squatch. I'd love to hang out with you as well, man. Thank you.
I love watching your videos, man. You got some crazy going. So the only person on the planet that does, then I might be. I don't know. But that's all right. You know what? One's better than none, right? That's right. I appreciate it. Thank you, Justin. Appreciate it, buddy. Well, Justin, thank you, man. Being a fan of the show. Thank you. Being a part of the Brother. One more thing. Yeah. We need to get together when you guys get down here for. What is it October? Yeah, we'll be in October.
We'll be in October down there in Indiana. Yeah. For like a week. Hell yeah. Yeah, we'll have to get together because. Yeah, I'd like to. Like to help. If anything. I'll help you guys drag out some deer or something, so. You know, I like to sound that brother. Thank you. Oh, yeah. Have a great night, Johnny. Have a good night. Hell yeah. Who's calling in next? Yeah, I know there's some other people there. Let me put the phone number back up there. Why don't you just keep it up?
Well, I don't want someone to like, accidentally call in while we have someone on the line. I see. Brett can keep it up. Oh. Sorry. So for you guys listening at home, Brett just flipped me off. That wasn't very nice. Brett, I want you to straighten up. Oh, we got no caller ID here. This is scary. Oh. Hello? Hey, you telling me groom, who we got online here? Hello? Hello? Dude, Brett, you scared them away, man. They hung up. No, they're there. It's Jamal. Is it Jamal?
Oh, Jamal, we have someone else on the flying here. That person hung up. Who? Who we got on the line here. Oh, crap. Hang on, Hang on. Can you hear us? Hey, thank you. We got on the phone here. What's up? It's Frank. What's going on, boys? It's the Broadside Ambush Massacre. What's up, buddy? What's up, man? I hope this is the. The. The number for Brett's only fans. No, I'll send you that one afterwards. No, you got mistaken. You're just Brett's only fan. Oh, my God. Just like Justin, boys.
Just like Justin's my only fan. You know, he wants to hang out with the old squats. So, you know. Yep. What are you doing, Frankie? How's things in. In the big nj, man? Busier. In hell with the family, man. I haven't gotten out to do jack yet, man. I haven't hung trail cameras, nothing, man. What about you guys? You lazy? Tell me about it. Jeez. Excuses, excuses. What do we say? No excuses. Just hunt. Yeah. Where do you think you hear that from? I'm the one that made it.
That right there, I can actually contest that. Frank does get up early and does make it to the woods, unlike somebody else. I won't name any name. You can get up. You can get up early in the. In the morning and then go out to the woods. And there's a difference between going on the woods and hunting. Going out in the woods and just going to sleep. So. There was one time I was climbing into the stand. It's like 5:30 in the morning.
I'm up there I'm saddle hunting and my phone drops because I have it on the mount. You know, I drop it. I'm like, yeah, it's fine. I'm not going to climb all the way down and get it. Squatch and Dave are just blowing up my phone and I'm like, oh, it's on silent. It's good. No, it wasn't, man. It's. I had to go all the way down and it's like. Did see some odd missed messages from only Squatch and Dave and no Brit. And that's like opening week.
Time out, time out, time out, time out, time out, time out. Michael, you know he gets pissed when you don't answer his first message. He puts in the next one in all caps. I got something to say. Yeah, I know. I see that. Here's his thing. He's. He sent a comment asking what do bungee jumpers and gay guys have in common? They both use rubbers. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, I don't both know, Brett. I don't know. Yeah, if the rubber breaks, they both are in deep. Oh, that's nice.
All right, all right. Okay. Why does a 14 year old know that? No, no, he's 15. Get it? You better get right or he's gonna get mad at you. He's 15. He's 15 and he used to work. He used the F word. This is a PG13 show. Michael used like terminology. I'm gonna take the belt to you. When I see you, I'm gonna whoop you. I'm gonna whoop the crap out of you for cursing. Yeah, cursing is a sign of weak intelligence and a weaker character. You. Yeah, little bag. So learn to stop guessing.
Wonder where he gets it from. No kidding. Oh, I'm sorry. Any curseness is not too. Really? I just told you, Michael. I'm gonna wash his mouth out with soap. That's it. That's little Brett. Geez, I'm so sorry. You're not teaching them right if you're saying that. No, you're right. I apologize. I need to set a better example. Smart enough, Brett. Smart enough. I will do my best to shaping up this beeping phrase, terminology, verbiage that I use. Frank, what do you. Is there any.
What do you want to say, Justin? I mean, Johnny. Yeah, I was just say, you want me to clean up the show right now? Here we go. All right, what is going on, guys? For those listening, I just removed Brett from the stage. So I. I'll bring them back just like, you know. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Bring him. Here's our trash. Bring him back on the other view, though. What's up, Brett? The lower front. It just got canceled, right? Yeah. You ginger son of a. Frank, is.
There anything that you want to talk about in specific? Anything like that you haven't seen on the show? Anything that's been bugging you? Something on your mind or you just want to talk to. No, I just. I just wanted to see. I just basically talk to. But I want to see whatever we think about this, about this public land where they're trying to sell it and all that. What's your guys thought and all that. Oh, like out west type deal. Yeah, yeah.
They're trying to sell it for, like, companies and projects and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah, all that stupid. I think it's a lot of. In my opinion, if it happens out there, it's just gonna be a snowball effect and it's gonna hit every single state, and we're all gonna. I mean, yes, we already look at it like this. Let's just take Detroit, for example. No, you know what? That. Let's. We got Kalamazoo. Kalamazoo here in the backyard. Kalamazoo.
There's so many empty lots, abandoned buildings, a lot of places there that are just basically graveyard places. And why people? Why these companies? I'm just gonna say companies in general because I don't know all the term, the details of it, but a lot of these major companies and places are buying up public land to build, whatever the case may be, just large in their horizon, whatever it may be. You have a lot of these abandoned places, and you can't even start there.
I mean, this is just off the top of my head, just spitballing here. I think to. You need to start off in places like that. You can rebuild a city, you can build. Rebuild the economy in that area. And just to go out there and buy land, tear it all down, and then you're causing so many ecological problems out there, that's just. It's just a nightmare. Well, it's because I agree. You're talking about Kalamazoo, for instance. Right. And for everyone listening, Kalamazoo is a. No, I'm not.
Yeah. I'm saying just in general, though, like, just start off at a city and just build up from there. Nobody wants to go to the city. Everyone wants to have those glamming, glam camping experiences and all that. So they want to get a place. You know, they'll buy a thousand acres of public Put a, you know, a condo or casino or something on it, and. But they'll. They'll pitch the whole it's.
It's you're submerged in nature type event, and then they take that nature and it just over for the rest of us. Yeah. Yep. I mean, a great example would be like anything from that show, that TV show Yellowstone. I hate related real life to TV, but that's exactly it. 100. Yeah. So, Frank, you're not learning any trail cameras yet, brother? No, I haven't got. I haven't done nothing yet, man. It's. It's sad, bro. Usually I'm on it already, but I haven't done jack.
I'm hoping within the next, like, week or two to get out there, start. Start checking stuff out, like I said. I mean, I got, you know, my one buddy. I've been hunting his place, and that's basically all private. So, you know, over there. I just. I just started hunting it last year, and I did pretty good. So, like, I still want to really go into depth and check it out because I was just learning, like, the bedding areas and what they're doing.
Especially, like, I learned a lot from hunting the rut last year of what they're doing because, you know, it was different from what, you know, from what I had in mind. But, you know, I think I. I think I got them figured out. As long as they don't me over, which I'm sure they will. Oh, dude, they're good at that, man. For sure. Yeah. I mean, especially, like for bear season two over there. Like, it's really good. So I want to get in there and start bait and actually really early.
Like, I. I already have a spot in mind that I'm gonna start early, then kind of start backing off as the season starts coming in because there's a big. Over there. He was like 550 last year. We figured. Squats. Yeah, squats. Saw the picture. We named him Jelly Roll. So nobody got him. So old Jelly Roll, we. Tomorrow, we. I'll find out if I get my bear tag because here in Michigan, it's a. It's a draw system. So I put in and I'll find out tomorrow morning if I drew for a bear or not.
And, well, if you do, let. Let me know, brother, if you get it. Oh, for sure, man. I've seen Johnny's drawings. They're not that good. I don't think he's gonna get it.
¶ Public Land and Environmental Concerns
I just want to take a second to go back to this public land being sold off. I just looked up this article from NPR News Colorado Stories called the title that's what to Know about the GOP Plan to Sell Western Public Land. Just the first, like couple paragraphs on it. Republicans in Congress are again pushing to sell off millions of acres of public land as part of the GOP's tax cut and spending bill.
A draft budget from the Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources, led by Senator Mike Lee, Republican from Utah, calls for the Bureau of Land management, BLM and US Forest Service to sell between 2 and 3 million acres over the next five years. Land in every western state except Montana would be eligible for sale under this proposal.
We're opening, he goes on the quote, we're opening underused federal land to expand housing, support local development and get Washington, D.C. out of the way of communities that are just trying to grow. Lee said in a video announcement said a similar land sale idea previously failed in the US House of Representatives. Facing opposition from environmental groups and some Republicans, the version released by the Senate involves far more land in more states.
Senator Martin Henrich, Democrat from New Mexico, the top Democrat on the committee, accused Republicans of, quote, taking a sledgehammer to public lands, warning that sales would reduce public access and hurt local economies. There goes the state. Basically that's the end of it. I'm not going to read anymore. But if it's just for housing, I mean, like I just said, abandoned places in any city you can go to.
And it's just, I, I don't know, is there something behind this that I'm not seeing more still to it? I can't. Yeah, but there's gotta be location, man. Location, location, location. They did that natural environment, then they, they have a fresh slate to up. Well, if you also look at it when, when I'm trying to blank on his name right now, Elon Musk was in there and he found all this tax, all this money spending in place. And I basically call it the money laundering problem.
And now they're trying to find ways to get money back in their pocket. You're talking about Doge. Yeah, Doge. They, he basically uncovered, like look at all this money that the government spent and that you don't know about. Now they're trying to find ways to recoup all that money. I mean, look at all these, all these people that went into office. What's that lady from Nancy Pelosi? You go into office and I don't know, it's like a, I don't know, $100,000 job and you come out a billionaire.
How the that possible get richer and. The poorer get poorer, my man. That's how it always goes. Yep, yep, exactly. You know, it's not fair. Why did he need so much money? Why are they in a predicament that what Teddy Roosevelt, you know, work so freaking hard for? Why do they want to destroy that?
It's. It seems like anything that has to do with history know, this really getting me cussing now, it really aggravates the hell out of me because, you know, this is what this found, that this country is founded on having places where when you enjoy something in your generation, the next generation that you handed down, that tradition can go to those same places and enjoy the same pieces of land. So, you know. Yeah, it's. It's just ridiculous, man. You know, it's like, I don't get it. I don't.
I. I don't. I know. It's all about money, you know, and. And it's like, oh, let's just. They just always keep grabbing and grabbing and grabbing till there's nothing left, you know, and let me tell you something. If it was something like, let's say pride month or it was something like, you know, granola freaking tree huggers going out and, you know, we're putting bicycle trails up this and that, they all get together and freaking fight. But here we are, we're these guys on podcasts.
We sit here, you know, we about it till we're blue in the face. How many of you guys are really paying attention to. How many of you guys are really calling Congress and bitching to these people that this is horseshit and it's got to stop. Honestly, though, I don't think calling is the pro is the solution. I think actually going there and telling. Them, like, listen, you know, it's just. I agree with you. Something needs to change. This is. This is. I agree. They protest for everything else.
They protect people. You know, they go out in the streets and they're bitching about stuff in. In, you know, like. No kings. No. Yeah, no kings. Exactly. Right. Okay. Save that for chess. You know, don't. Don't put that stuff in real life. It's ridiculous. Trump never proclaimed himself a king, first of all. Second, these people, when you ask them what their legitimate is, they don't have an answer. They can't even give you a reason why. They're just there. Oh, Sally is all pissed off.
So I'm jumping on Sally's bandwagon and I'm gonna go out there and throw stuff at him. Well, you know, that Most of those people that go to those places are. Are paid. Like Johnny, remember back in Kalamazoo when they had the, like those Black Lives Matter movements and a lot of those down there and, and especially up in Grand Rapids. I don't know if it. It happened in Kalamazoo, but I know a lot of people in Grand Rapids, they went there and they're paid just to cause chaos.
Yeah. So this was back when Black Lives Matter was like really rampant, back when George Floyd died. And this was like really going on back around covet time. And come to find out, a lot of these protests that were going on in the city. I'm just going to use Grand Rapids. But it was happening here in Kalamazoo, not as bad. But in Grand Rapids, they found. They were.
¶ Chaos and Protests: A Discussion on Paid Demonstrators
Found out that people were paid them to go there just to cause chaos and destroy. So you think. Let's just say 1 out of 10 people that go these things are actually there probably for legit reasons, like they're against it. The other nine most, like, they're paid. Yeah, yeah. I know. It's just that it aggravates, you know. No, it is. Yeah. I'm. So this is a topic that I can go on and on because I can't stand half of this.
And like I said, everyone that listens to the show, that watches the show, that they know what they're going to get out of us, it's unpolitically correct. We're going to speak our minds. We're going to speak the truth that we see it and speak how we freely want to. So everyone else can go off if you don't like it and we don't give a. But things need to change. The truth needs to be talked about and things need to be fixed on so many levels.
I know this was your original question there, Frank, was the. The. The public land, but in my mind, it kind of. It all correlates in somehow. No, it all. Yeah, it's all the same. Yep. Yeah. Either way, it's. Maybe it's just this Pride stupid month that's got me all heat up about it and I don't know. Yeah. Well, also everyone that's listening though, Frank is going to be on the show next week representing Boondocks Hunting when we have our trivia night.
So before we let you go, Frank, because I think we got time for one more caller tonight. How do you think we're gonna do. You're gonna. I don't give a. If you get offended out there. I don't give A. Hey, just so you know, Frank, you didn't do well. Brett is just being Brett. So we gotta remember the dumb questions that he had last time. Now that I'm gonna bring him on and pretend he didn't hear any of this. Hey, Brett. What's up, brother? I'm not the one coming up with these questions.
It's Squatch's deal. My questions are on the last trivia night in December. My questions are going to be for that night, and that is going to be. Yeah, no, I'm some. I'm the host of the trivia this time. Again. Yeah, I meant the answers. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. Boondocks is bringing it home this time, buddy. Sorry, I don't know. We came on your show and beat you on the first time, so maybe you can do it too. I think that was just a fluke.
I don't know what the happened there, but I don't know if I was sleeping. Listen, listen, listen. Like what Fast and Furious quote goes, it doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile, you still win. Yep, winning is winning, I'll give you that. That's probably the most pride thing you've said all episode, Brett. Either way, though, Frank, you gotta go check out his stuff at Broadside Ambush. Broadside Ambush. I was drawing a blank right there.
And also check out Boondocks hunting their brother's other show. Their brother's on social media and everything. We love them over there. I don't know why, but we do. Because we got Squatch, too, that's why. I heard you do have Squatch. Yeah, we'll give you that. Frank, any last thing you want to say before we let you go, brother? No, brother. Just appreciate you guys taking my call. And it's been fun. I've looked forward to the season and I wish everybody the best of luck.
And let's take some big ones down while we. Amen, brother. You got a direct list to the podcast at any time, and you know that, man. No, I appreciate guys. You guys are the same, you know. You always know that. Oh, yeah. Love you, Frank. Have a great night, buddy. All right, guys. Love you all. Later. Roadside ambush. There he is. All right, like we said, now the whisk is coming out of them. Now we got time for one more caller. Time for one more caller. So the phone is there.
Last caller for the night. 269. And we're gonna be off till next Sunday. Thank God. Thank God. We got squats coming up. These questions too. Oh, yeah, one more Caller coming in. Let's see who wants to talk to the show. Okay. What's up, boys? Oh, it's Mike. It's the other one. Yeah, the good one. The cool one. Not the 15 year old. It's. It's the good. It's the black. It's the black one. Sorry, It's. It's. It's the black guy. That's funny, Mike. I didn't realize you're the.
You're from Bad Boys Black. I didn't put the connection together. Yes, that is. That is me. This one, like, come on. Geez. Wow. Yes, that is me. Hey, you. You know what they. I heard there was a study that they said gingers are now actually considered to be black. They share, like, some descent from, like, from black people. What? It's true. It's true. I swear to God. I swear to God, next time it pops up on my phone, I gotta, like, I gotta send it to you.
Like, I thought about you and my other friend. I was like, holy. I was like, I knew it. I knew it. That gingers are some relation to black people. Or like, gingers are the new. No, like, I. I swear, I swear to God. Yeah, it's like if you, if you're a ginger, like you're somewhere your ancestors or you have some relation to like black people. So I guess you're black. I don't know why you're so pale. But you're. You're black. I'm doing it right now. Well, I got.
I. I have Native American in me, though. But to be black. Yeah, but that was on a weekend and you're drunk. That was the Indian for the Village People. That's right. Inches of Indian in me. So. Well, okay, so that's probably why Brett can get down so good. You know? I mean. Oh, dude, you know it. Yeah. Yeah. And that's what makes his only fan so popular. That's it. That is. That's it. It's definitely. You know, you got, you got to put. You got. You got to put that in your bio.
Now. What am I. I'm not Elizabeth Warren. But I. I will say, all jokes aside, by. Besides, you know, I don't know what Frank is doing over there. Not a single camera. Not. Not nothing. Like, it's about to be July and our brother has yet to do any damn work. He's just making us look bad. Yeah, no kidding. You guys are lazy over there. Brett, how many cameras do you have out right now? About nine. About roughly nine. See, I've got. You got nine well. Oh, no, no, let me take it back.
I have three as well. I have the cell cameras out there, but I haven't turned those on. I have the SD cameras out there, and those are about six of them. Wait, so you have. You have your. You have your cell cameras out there, but let. Please tell me they're not. Like you're not paying for the monthly right now. Turned them off and everything. I turned. I turned those off. And the cell cameras are still out there. I'm gonna be moving them around, but I have.
I don't have the plan going for them, but I have my SD cameras out there right now too. They're still running. So now those are about six of them. Do you remember when I. I've never shared with anyone here yet. And I was going to tell Brett, but I decided against it until right now. So I had five Moultrie cameras, and I gave Brett two of them. Right? And you're like, I don't like them. I don't like them. Blah, blah, blah. And you're always complaining about them.
Well, you've had them on May 9 was the last time they were on. And the reason I know that is because I have an entire line of pictures from you with them in your living room. Where is. Oh, hold on. I have one here. Is there one with him in bed? Him with his TV in his room? Oh, right here. That's not me. That's you, dude. And besides, I literally showed you photos of the. Of those cameras when they're out in the field, because we talked about them on the show. Like, look at the clarity of these.
These photos from these cameras. But I have a whole bunch of pictures from your place with your cameras when you're messing around with them at first, because I reactivated all of mine and they all came on. So what they would do is they would take pictures once a day to make sure that they're still working. So, like, a lot of them were just like blank shots because you must have had them put away. I got pictures. I am not your captain now. See the red hair? Look, I did do that.
That's Brett right there, man. That's Brett. Come July. To use your cameras in the woods or in the public bathroom. I love it. Yes. Oh, that's awesome. As flares of the forest. Right? You are. You are the typical hunter. I want to be like. I aspire to be like you. I aspire to be like you. I'm just not no hunter wise. Just. I want to be able to be more black. Well, you Are you're. You are you just. You know, you're. You're. You're basically halfway there technically now.
Yeah. You could go to Detroit eight Mile Road. And you can. You can technically go say the N. Word with a hard R or just the A. You could do both. You get. That'S Brett's new book coming out. The Ginger Man. I'm getting that. I can't wait to get that. Well, there's a racetrack over here named after him too, called Ginger Min. Here's his. This is his only fans picture if you want to subscribe. For people who are listening.
I'm putting pictures up of like people that look nothing like Brett that just have red hair. And the other fellow was a little darker than Brett. Kind of like our brother Mike, but you know, like the Ray. This is Brett when he's trying to be Squatch. Brad. We. We might be. We might be related somewhere down the line. We might be. Mike. We just. Yeah, his mom does have that taste. My wife's cracking up. My wife's laughing her ass off in the back. Hey, we just said you're. You're a bad boy.
Like my. The Mike from Miami. I am a. I was a cop. Oh, yeah. Brett Boven. Yeah, There we go. Hey, Brett, what's your favorite cookie? A ginger snack. He's a gingerbread man. That's sugar cookie. Yeah. I'm actually pretty. Like, let's say this so we all know. Yeah, I'm out golfing, but I'm also out there doing work and all this other. So I got a tan going. I don't tan. I turn more orange. I'll tell you this. I have like a farmer's tan.
Like my out, like on the outside of my arms, it's like tan, but underneath it's like albino. Like I make albino people look tan with how white I am underneath. Like, if you saw my thighs, they would blind you. Hey, Squatch. Yeah, man. Why do redheads make good detectives? I don't know. You're always looking for clues and trying to find their soul. Oh, I am. Hi, I'm Brett. Coming on this show, Michael asked Brett, if you're part black, can you say the N word? Do it, Brett. Do it. Stupid.
It wouldn't be my first. Here's here. Wait a second. That's too funny. I love it. I love it. Here's Brett when He worked at 7:11. Oh, yes. You put the slurpee down and not drink the juice. No, no, no, no, no, no. So, Mike, how's your Season looking out there, brother, for this coming up year.
¶ Excitement for the Upcoming Hunting Season
Yeah, I'm actually really, really excited for it. You know, we were gonna be down in Delaware on September 1st. One of our guys, Zach, he was actually out there glassing at some of the fields and he. We saw probably like he saw probably at least seven, I think seven shooters adult across like different, different public lands and everything like that. So real, real happy to get down there. We're looking real good.
And then for the, for the rest of my spots, like, I put some cameras out there, but. But nothing crazy. I've set up some mineral sites and things like that, but I'm really not gonna start hammering it until like end of July because then I'll really see what, what the bucks are looking like and everything like that. I've kind of scouted some. Some new pieces and everything like that. Everything else that I've already done in different public lands and stuff like that.
I know, I already know where I'm going to, so I'm not gonna go any crazy, but just trying to get boots on the ground, find some new spots. One spot I found was thought was going to be money and of course there's like ten freaking tree stands in there. And then I went a little down further down the road and actually found a nice little creek down in the bottom.
And you know, I saw like two stands down there and I worked myself down and you know, along the creek and everything like that bumped a couple of deer and it looked like I didn't see any cameras, didn't see any stands or anything like that. So it seems like a pretty good start for a. A brand new spot in a different area that I can focus on and everything like that. So looking forward to that and just I, I think I'm really excited for Furbear. Like, don't get me wrong, I always excited for deer.
But here in New Jersey, we only get really one week to bow hunt them. Not even a full week. We get six goddamn days. Hey, we just talked about swearing on the show. I'm sorry, but you know, I can't, I can't help it, you know, just watch your mouth. My background, I can't do that. I'm sorry. It's the ghetto, Mike. It's the ghetto coming out. We understand. It's. It's exactly, you know. Oh, fun fact. I have squash. Squash shows us before I get any. You guys are gonna love this. So after.
Can't remember if it was after we recorded the podcast or with you guys or can't remember what the. We did. But I know we're, we're doing something for Pride month. We're talking about Pride month or some like that. So it was mustard in the beginning. The Scottish knows. I got freaking suspended at work for misgendering a transgender kid. Yeah. What? I, I swear, three weeks. I just said it was my first day back. Yeah. Yep. Oh. And you know, I was.
And I think, I think it happened like right after. I think one of the times that we're talking and we're, we're, we're like, it was beginning of Pride month and we're like, like, and I misgendered a kid and then I got suspended. I was like, you've got to be kidding me. Like, this world is getting so soft. It's, it's ridiculous. But besides the point, you know, yeah, bear season, it's looking real good for bear season.
I know there's at least a couple, like Frank said, you know, he's got a close to a 5, 550 around. You know, there's a few bears that we're looking at. They're in the. Probably anywhere from the threes to four to 500. There's at least one 500 pound bear. And I know I have heard rumors that there is probably a close to another state record bear somewhere. Not where I'm hunting. But I, I know somebody who's, who could be potentially after another state or world record bear yet again in New Jersey.
New Jersey does have absolutely monster bears. You know, us in North Carolina, I would say definitely have like some of the best bear hunting without, hands down, without a doubt. The good thing about our state, we're such a small state that you, you could literally, once you go into west Jersey, you could throw a stick and you could hit a freaking bear. And like, no matter what you do, you kind of can't avoid bears. So they're pretty easy to come across.
But you know, getting them in full range or, and everything like that, that's where I think people kind of struggle with. But looking forward to the bear season. That'S just odd to me every time I hear that. Because you think of New Jersey and obviously and with North Carolina, it's on the coastline, you don't really think of black bears. Like, when I think of black bears getting like huge, I think of like Tennessee, Colorado, out west type places.
You think of those places getting like world record type black bear. And actually fun fact on the show, I can't remember the date he's on. We have the current record Guy coming on, his name is Brian, who just shot the world record black bear. He's coming on the show in August. Yeah, New Jersey. Great, great guy. That was. Yeah, I think 707. So another. We were at bear camp. Peyton shot his bear that day. I think like a 250, 270 pound bear. Good. A good bears.
Not his biggest, but his second biggest. And we're like, oh, like, you know, we love go because we gotta go. We gotta take the bears to a check in station. And it's actually a really fun. Like I do love taking the bears to the check in station. You run into the biologist, you see the, you know, the warden and everyone who's working there and like you find out kind of like what's the biggest bear, how many bears have been shot and everything. Like it's a, it's a cool interaction.
If anyone hasn't done it, like, I definitely do recommend doing it especially here in New Jersey. Like, it is a pretty fun thing. But Peyton was in line with that bear and got to see it in person. The guy was, I think right behind Peyton. Peyton and everything like that. Yeah, Brian was right behind Peyton and Peyton was like, yo, dude, like this, this humongous bear was, was, you know, killed and everything like that. I think that if it's not the. I, I can't remember what it is.
It's got to be the, especially with a bow thing with the bow. It's got to be the, the biggest bear ever taken with a bow. Yeah. As far as black bear taken. Taken in the bow. I could see gun. I think gun still is. North is North Carolina. I, I believe by like by like a hundred pounds or something like that. But with the bow, that is a absolutely phenomenal job. And, but that's, that's a consistent thing. And you say, yes, Jersey is a coast, but you gotta remember west Jersey is not.
We're not coast at all. Like we. It is completely different. South Jersey's got no goddamn bears. You know what I mean? Or if they do, they have maybe like one or two that wander down and everything like that. But, but like just the, when you think of. When I just the first thing you think of New Jersey smallest on the coast. Like just in general though. Yeah. Like, but we have. Yeah. Great hunting, great fishing.
Like it is really a. I know Realtor yet again dropped their like, you know, unappreciated states in Delaware yet again. It was number one. But I, I tell you, I think New Jersey is definitely, if it's not top five it's somewhere in the top 10. You know, we have unfortunate. We do have a really good deer, obviously a phenomenal deer population, but we have really good genetics for bucks. You know, I've seen some, some boxers killed. I've killed you know, some nice bucks my buddies have killed.
Frank killed a, a nice, you know, a nice, nice buck and everything like that. Shouldered a, a really good one and then he had on camera like a, just an absolute stud that got us all fired up and you know that squash that, that typical. I think it was a typical 10. Yeah. That just was absolutely beautiful. Like one of the nice and deer I think I've ever seen. I had at 12 yards a probably a, a 10 point that was probably in the 140s. Just an another absolute just stud.
So you know, you see, you see guys kill some phenomenal deer here in New Jersey. It's just the problem is we're a seven buck state. So you get a lot of guys that you know at the day they'll shoot a spike because guess what, you got six more tags, you know, or you know, you, you get, you get away with a lot. That's what hurts. New Jersey number.
Why you don't see it as, as a big buck state because you get a lot of people that do shoot a lot of young deer because we have the tags and we also have unlimited doe tag too. So. And we hunt from the second week of September to the second week of February. You know, we have just a phenomenal hunting season with bears, coyotes, waterfowl here is absolutely like to die for. It is, it is amazing. You know, then they're not even talking about fishing.
You know, we have stripers and you know everything like that and you know, to the shore, shark, shark fishing and everything like that, which I don't know too much about. But New Jersey kind of has, it has it all. So like it is really definitely under appreciated state. And everyone who comes here actually like when they come to hunt here they actually do find it, you know, quite enjoyable.
New Jersey is that state that it's like the hidden gem. I mean. Yeah, yeah. Like I, I've been to, I've been in New Jersey fishing before in the past and it was awesome. I absolutely loved it. Then you hit further south into like the Pine Barrens and I mean the hunting out there is even. It's just amazing. Yeah, the, the Pine Barren is very difficult type. You want a really challenging hunt.
The Pine Barrens is like some guys down there that are absolute killers and that's Kind of like everyone wants to either go to the, like the Delaware Water Gap or the Pine Barns. If you want challenging hunting like, you go to. To those two areas. And that's like a really good challenge of. Of hunts. And, you know, the. The Water Gap is absolutely beautiful. I'm trying to get the guys. We're all trying to get a hunt there. You know, we can hunt there and everything like that.
Yeah, boys, like Frank said, we. We want you guys to come. We can go to the Pie Baron and freak, or the. We can go to the Water Gap and camp out for a couple days and just. Just hunt in the views and the mountains and everything like that is phenomenal up there. Real thinking about this because we start wrapping up here next year. We. We've been talking about possibly doing a week hunt in Illinois. Maybe. Maybe we hunt out in New Jersey instead.
I mean, the best part about New Jersey, I. Not only is it super small, you can get everywhere quick, but I absolutely love that state. The last time I was there, I actually blew up two jet skis. That's on Holt. We will cover that on, like, a White Trash Advantage broadcast because I just got back from. From my 05 deployment and we went to Ozfest, and then me and a bunch of army dudes. Oh, God. We were from. Oh, we were out in Oakland, actually. And, God, Yeah, dude, we.
I ended up blowing up two jet skis and there's a broken femur involved. But hey, we'll cover that story another time. On the White Trash Advantage podcast one. That's right. That's a story for the White Trash Advantage podcast. Possibly this Tuesday. We'll see. Hey, Brett. Yeah. Don't forget he got shot in the neck, too. He did. I. I didn't bring that up. I'm surprised I forgot. I'm surprised I forgot that. I didn't want to. Johnny got shot in the neck. If everybody didn't know that.
Yeah, Johnny got shot in the neck. Johnny got shot in the neck when you're deployed. Yeah. I'm surprised you don't know that. You're not a faithful follower if you didn't. Yeah. You're not a faithful follower in there. Yeah, I didn't know that. I'm gonna go ahead and bring it up. I'm also doing an elk hunt in September. So I. I knew that. Yeah. Yeah. I'll say that one, too.
You know why I. I always tell the boys so, like the pursuit live guys, I'm like, yo, I always want to get on, but I work when I'm working, I work 13 hour shifts so I don't get off sometimes. Like sometimes I'm still at work like currently right now. Thank God. Today I was like I'm staying till free and that's it. But like on a lot of my days, especially non hunting season, I'm working as many hours as I can.
So like the boys always have like shows and I'll see the ones but I listen working with patients and everything like that. Like gosh, you get caught slipping one time like you like today. Kid tried beating me with the freaking chair today. Oh my Jeez man. Well, we all know get close. Yeah. Well yeah, I just told him that I, I, I, I, I knew this gender named Brett and he'll kick your ass if if you touch me. And he start shaking in his shoes.
So I was like don't let me get the gingers on you telling me. Don'T let me get the big dude. Well Mike, thank you for coming on the show. And again if actually this is a new one. So Mike is actually going to be coming on the show next week to represent Boondocks hunting in the trivia night Stump a Chump night. So make sure to tune in for that. It's gonna be Whitetail advantage verse Boondocks because they invited us to come on their show. We came on their show and we kicked their ass.
Me and Johnny did. So can it happen where they come on ours and they kick our ass? It's going to be a good one to go with and we're excited to see Squatch is the one to be going to be doing the questions on this one. The next one coming up would be I think Johnny's gonna be doing the next trivia night questions. Yeah, that's all about alcohol though.
And I definitely want to say real quick for all your listeners if you not if you have not listened and this is not a plug to go watch my pot listen to our podcast. But I will tell you a Brett should have broke the Internet with those goddamn answers that he had for some of the most simplest questions where you really truly are like does Brett even know Hunter? That's how bad this was. What is better a white tail deer or an elk? Yeah, white till there. Yep, that one took the that one. Kidding me?
Are you kidding me? That's your final answer? No, it's. Then he's got the balls to say well it's the way you worded it, Squatch. It was tricky. No. And then he's like we won. It was me and Johnny. Johnny Had a little bit to do with it, but I won. There's three questions. There's three questions. I don't remember them, but I know two of them for a fact. The. Which one was bigger? Is the elk or the. The whites. All deer. I accidentally. It was. It was like a true or false question.
I accidentally put true, and I meant false. You wrote down the. Your own answer. I know because I have part ADHD and dyslexia maybe. I don't know. Anyway, I wrote the wrong one. As soon as I. And I showed the answer, I'm like, wait, off. I met the other one. Son of a. He. He also was. There was a point where I think either Squatch said it or Brett said it. He goes, this seems like a trick question. Yes. And he still got tricked by the goddamn question. It was.
I think it was the betting question because the way it was. That was the betting. Yes. That was so stupid. The stupidest question. And I was like, wrong. No, I didn't get it wrong, but you did. Either way, you have to go listen to the episode. Yeah. I'm nervous for Squatch's questions. I will say, like, after that show watch has me, like, because it's. You think you'll hear the question. You're like, holy. It's so simple.
Yeah. And I'm not excusing for what Brett did because everyone else got those questions right. But it. It is like. It is a little bit of a mind where it's like, damn, I'm about to sound like an absolute complete idiot right now. Or like, I know my. You guys got questions wrong, too. That. Hey, listen, it was like, what the kind of question is that? Listen, Corky from Life goes on got those questions more right than Brett did. So, I mean, for those of you. Take a home though.
Okay. Who. I'll take it home either way. Sample question tonight. Squatch. No, I can't do that. Okay. That was. Check out that episode. Because actually was pretty hilarious. My responses. Mike, thank you for calling in the show. Thank you for giving me permission to use the nword. Thank you for also telling me I'm part black. So it. It's on record now I have permission from. This was a big episode for you. You found out so many things make sense to you now. I can't wait to see. Not only.
Not only has he came out because of pride month, he's come out because of Pride month. He's also prideful that he's black from the waist down maybe or something. I don't know. You're you're a black gay guy, man. It'd be a tough rest of your life for you. Are you sure you're not from Detroit, Brett? I mean, like downtown Detroit from eight Mile. Yeah. I knew it. That makes sense. All right, boys, good night. I'll see you guys at trivia night. See you, brother. Good. Have a good night. Take care.
Oh, man. Well, that was our first calling night that we've done in a while. How do you guys think it went? Good. Good. We got the NAACP involved now and. We have pretty much covered everything from we're doing good racist jokes to homophobic jokes to just hunting in general. So I say we've covered it all. Beating up a 15 year old. You know that's right. Yeah. We're just doing everything correctly.
Yeah. Way. Everyone, that's going to conclude another episode of the Whitetail Advanced podcast from myself. Wait, how can people find you guys? You guys want to say, or you guys just want me to close it out? You guys know, if you don't know where to find me by now, then yeah, hell jeez. Either way. All right, everyone, that's going to conclude an episode of the Whitetail Advantage podcast from myself, Johnny and Squatch. We want to say thank you to gathering around the electronic campfire.
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