Theoretically, you can predict the future. Now, Laplace's demon can predict the future, but they would have to know where every single possible atom in the world is at that point. And the state that it's in and the interaction it would have with every other atom. It's not possible. It's not possible. That is the world. There is no certainty with this. And human nature is pattern seeking. We want these patterns. We want this certainty.
But the truth of the matter is, what we live in, the system we live in is complex. It is uncertain. I've watched and I've read many books on nuclear war. You watched all the Star wars films. Does that mean the Death Star? But they're intentionally fiction. These are like, by people that have. That know about nuclear war. That's why they're writing about their journalists. So there is someone that has gone out and they've done fucking. I refer your journalists back to my Covid story.
But a nuclear bomb has been dropped. Has it? Oh, you want me that I know? I don't. I don't. I don't. I'm not saying it has or it hasn't. I'm just saying. Are you playing devil bomb? If you ask me to bet every penny that I have? I don't. I'm not betting that it has. I wouldn't bet it hasn't. I ain't fucking betting that. If the nuke wasn't. If two nukes weren't dropped in 1945, what caused those shit ton of conventional explosives? I don't know.
Because there was a hell of a lot of damage in Japan from conventional bombing. More, in fact, far more. Like some cities were absolutely devastated by the amount of bombs they dropped. The Americans dropped in the second world war. But the damage and the radiation caused to the survivors was. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, to be honest, I'm not. And you must have seen videos of those mushroom clouds. I have seen videos of mushroom clouds. I'm not saying it wasn't. It's not really.
I'm not really bothered either way on that. And nuclear energy seems to be a thing. I mean, you do not at the. Point where you know enough about it or not enough to get it. No, it's real or not real. So you're kind of like. I don't know. Yeah, exactly. I don't know. I mean, kind of coming back to what you were saying, like. I don't know. I don't. It's not that important with the JFK. Let's take JFK very, very quickly. The narrative was that Harvey Lee Harvey Oswald shot him.
He was a lone shooter, they caught him, Jack Ruby kills him, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then in the 1990s, when JFK came out, the film by Oliver Stone, I want to say completely, I was 1415 impressionable. I'd watched a few documentaries on it prior to that because I didn't know who JFK was prior to maybe like early secondary school. And I was like, oh my God, there's a conspiracy. And I absolutely ate up everything I saw in that. And then I've seen since then.
So this is like 30 years ago. I've seen both sides, I've split, flip, flip flop, I've gone, there was conspiracy. There wasn't a conspiracy. Now, I don't know. I honestly don't know. And I don't think we'll ever know unless Trump opens up those files and actually fucking tells us. But the damage that can do to America is immense. So it probably won't happen. So I'm probably answers all of your. Questions about why stuff never gets never.
Actually the conspiracy is that it was the dude on the grassy knoll that shot. Yeah, right. One guy too crazy shot Kennedy. Okay, so the guy that shot Kennedy, the guy in the book depository. Yeah, he was crazy, right? This is the story. And then the other guy that actually shot him, apparently on the grassy knoll, was hired by who? CIA. CIA. Their reason for killing Kennedy was. There's lots of things. And the bear pigs, that's a Cuba.
Basically said the military industrial complex is a problem and we're going to stop these endless wars and we're going to de financialize them. And they said, want to bet? What? Should we fucking blow your head off in front of your wife, motherfucker? So do you believe Trump's assassinations were crazy people? Or do you believe that was also set up by probably, let's say Hillary Clinton? Because it's usually her, right? Let's say both. So you need a crazy person, right?
You say, okay, so you think it was a gun. Here's. Okay, here's where you should sit. Don't worry, there won't be any security. Was, was you could walk around for 6 hours with a fucking rifle and a ladder. Don't worry. First is happen is the conspiracy that it was always planned to be. A near miss. Blew his head off, man. They were trying to kill him, right? You seen the video? Who was trying to kill him? The Democrats. The deep state. Oh, so this is back to the Illuminati again.
You could say illuminati yes. Right? I mean, I thought they liked Trump. You can. No, I'm sorry. You could. You can. You could call it more like less kind of, mysteriously, the military industrial complex. I mean, Trump has said we're going to stop having these endless wars. We are going to stop being an expansionist country. We're going to focus on America. We're going to bring manufacturing back to America. We're going to look after american people.
We're going to close all our fucking military bases around the world. We're not invading other people's countries anymore. We're just going to concentrate on making America great again. Right. Maga. All the sort of real money around the world comes from war, comes from invading people's countries, dropping bombs on them. But why didn't regime change last time then? So Kamala Harris is a better option for these people. She's just a powerful. Why did he not do this when he was in office last time?
Why was he not the threat then? Well, I think he was trying to get a second term, so obviously you're trying to kind of go a little bit steady. But. But don't forget, Trump is the first american president in the last, I don't know, 30 years maybe, since before Reagan, who didn't go to war. I know that. I know that. Yeah. I thought Reagan was the one from the Olympics. The breakdancer. That's Ray Gunn. Oh, sorry. My version. Does that break down? No, I've got a conspiracy about that. But he's.
He didn't. He's the first american president in 30, 40 years didn't go to war. So you could. You can see that there was the beginnings of it, let's say. But I mean, if you. If you watch that video again, like, people say, oh, it's fake, it was planned. It was this, it was that. But you don't believe those conspiracies. I mean, that was the most badass thing I've seen in my fucking life. Nearly 80 years old, that guy's nearly 80 years old. What's this? Trump? Yeah, he's a fucking billionaire.
He's got kids, grandkids, golf clubs, buildings. He fucking gets vip at the boxing, at the UFC. Everyone loves him. Do you like Trump? He's growing on me. Which guy is putting himself out? I want to like him, but he is a narcissist, and that bothers me. He is the textbook definition. Anyway, just quickly going back to, you want to know what are the ones that you don't believe? Yeah. Is Mark Zuckerberg a robot? No. Is Bill Gates a lizard? Yes. Not a lizard. Were the royal family lizards?
Nah. I think so. Okay, I'm glad you don't believe those ones. Does Prince Andrew sweat? Was Princess Diana killed by the royal flight? That now gets more interesting. That's what come this week that he was a rapist. It's looking pretty damning. What I find interesting about that story is not whether he was or wasn't a rapist or what he did. Was that sir two tier, three gear starmer. Well, he don't like the starmer.
Was head of the CPS when they refused to prosecute Al Fayed twice due to insufficient evidence. He was also head of the CPS when they refused to prosecute Jimmy Savile twice due to insignificant evidence. Because there was insufficient evidence. Maybe. And again, I'm not. I'm not, like, super bothered about it one way or the other. I'm not. That's the thing, though. We've only got a certain bandwidth, so there are hundreds of conspiracies out there.
I'm sure that you're like, I don't have an opinion on. Yeah, because it's not interesting. There's only so much time you can focus on one or two or three or four or five. And I think when I was growing up, it was aliens and JFK and the moon landing, so they were like the three big ones. And I believed. I believed all three. I believed all three. I tell you what, you want to read, which I'm about two thirds of the way through, I never read books, but I've got a book for holiday.
Okay. Is the naked Bible, is it unaudible? Because I listen to books. Yes. Don't tell me it's written by David Icke. I'm going to walk out now. No, no, no. It's really interesting. Is a guy called Mauro Biglino, who's a italian polyglot. Is that when you speak load of languages? Yes. So basically he was. He was like a. I'm a monoglot. Yeah, I'm a monoglot. He basically was reading religious texts and found some. He was interested in languages.
He learned some, learned Latin and he learned Italian, he learned Greek, and then he was reading, and then he said, oh, I think they've translated this word wrong. I'm going to write to the publishers and say, oh, I don't want to go outside my lane. But they tried to kill him, didn't they? No, no. They said, oh, that's amazing. Thank you for the feedback. If you notice any more inconsistencies. Please don't hesitate to contact us. He read a few more stuff. He found a few more errors.
He sent a few more back. They said, do you want to come and meet? And we'll show you around the publishing? He went, short, long story short, he ended up being a freelance editor for this Vatican based publisher of religious books, doing the translations for them. While he's reading the texts, he's. He's reading the Hebrew, because that's the. The most original version of the Bible is the Hebrew. And then it's translated into Greek, I think.
And then from Greek to Latin, then from Latin to English and etcetera, and starts to go. The translation of this Hebrew word into that latin word is not correct. This. They say it. They translated Elohim as God, but Elohim doesn't mean God. Or they translated Holy Spirit, or this word as holy spirit, but doesn't mean holy spirit. It means flying machine, like, etcetera.
And then he's basically published loads of books, and the most recent one is the one that I'm reading, which is like, anthology of the whole lot, which is basically saying that if you go and read the Hebrew Bible, Old Testament, and you just read it in a literary fashion, so you don't try to say it's an allegory, it's a metaphor. They were trying to communicate this. You just go, what did they actually write? Like it was fucking hot. Instead of going, hell is a place filled with you.
No, they were just saying it was fucking hot. And his justification for saying that, you could argue that you should take it as a literal translation is that when it was written, most people were illiterate, so they wouldn't have been telling complicated stories, because most people were like sheep. Hunger. That was a level of education. You've been to the north. Why would you be telling, you know, complicated stories that you'd have to know theology to understand was not really an apple.
It was knowledge. They were just going out. This. This is the word. This is what it meant. And if you read it in a literal sense, Earth got invaded by a bunch of motherfucker aliens that were like a bit like your Stargate big fuck off, nasty motherfuckers. Were you involved in stargate? Sounding very L. Ron Hubbard at the. Moment, yeah, but he says, like, if you just read anyone else read it and gone literally, that's the. Anyone else being debated in many now, like a Catholic.
Well, like a really big debate. A masturbate master debate. Did all the priests get around and. Masturbate master debations with cunning lyrics. I mean, I've heard. I've heard similar things where this is quite interesting. You can look at the text like something we. I'm sure we've all heard is like, blessed are the meek. But actually the real translation is something different. It's like, blessed are the people that could. That could unsheathe their swords but choose not to.
And then they said meek because it's easier to control people when you tell them, don't worry, if you're poor, you'll go to heaven after. I mean, there's no way I can go and learn Hebrew and look at those texts. You have to. You have to accept that. Yeah, that's the truth. I believe if you read it, though. He's not claiming that what he says is right. He's not saying I've got the right language. Well, there's this. It's a. Do you know, like, in German, you have, like, masculine, feminine, same.
You have Hebrew and shebrew. I do, yeah. Like 2024. You're gonna need vapor. Oh, thank God. Yeah, like. Because again, like in German and you have like, masculine feminine, feminine German, it's. Gonna be a problem. I mean, that's. The latin language is French and French German. So I didn't learn German. Is that not a thing in Germany? It's gonna be a problem for. The romance languages, like Saxony and stuff. They've had right wing kind of people voted in again now.
So. So. But this is interesting. What is right wing defines right wing. If you've got an airplane, you've got one on this side. It's the literal sense. Define right. It's got to be the literal sense. It's like the Bible. Says. It's the right answer. Yeah, I was trying to give an example of my definition. Racist. Is that what you're gonna say? I mean, I've had discussions with my friend about the Nazis being right wing.
And he says that they're not right wing, but there are elements of what they say that is left wing. But history would class them as right wing and communists. As. The way he's smiling, he's got a very good definition of right and left, I think. I haven't. I wouldn't say left wing is more towards extreme. Left wing is more towards socialism and communism. So the state controls everything. Everything's taken away from you in terms of control because the state is looking after you.
Well, everyone's equal kind of thing. In a utopia. People who run it in a utopia. Yeah, obviously. And right wing. I could be wrong, but right wing is more sort of nationalistic. Oh, it's hard. That's. That's kind of what I would say. Yeah. Nationalistic, maybe. Capitalism, private property, etcetera. Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where would you put yourself? Slightly sun less left of center. So you think that a lot of your shit should be given to other people? People that was. Yeah, yeah.
People that. Higher taxes, the people that can't afford. What about the people who can't work because they're lazy? What about them? I think they should have help until. They get a job. Until they get a job. Who pays for the help? We all do. If you lost your job tomorrow, why? Why do I lose my job? Because AI now, AI is now doing optician appointments. You've lost your job. So you need to retrain to do something else that a human can do.
Then we should help you until you get back into employment. If you are lazy and you're constantly just going, nah, I just want to live off the state, then that's a different issue. But at some point, when things do become more automated and a lot of people are out of work, it won't be that they're lazy, it's just that there's nothing for them to do. So someone's going to have to help these people. And you go to universal basic income, right? Yeah. Everybody gets a grand a month.
And if you can earn more, if. You sit on a beach and get paid three grand a month, no, you. Won'T sit on a beach, sit in. A box with three grand a month. I think a lot of people will probably go, yeah, I'll do that. That's what they do. Anyway. Some people. But most people that I know and I don't, I guess I don't always mix with the down and outs of society. Most people in their free time aren't sitting around being lazy. They're expanding their, their knowledge or they're doing a hobby.
They're doing something. Are they? Everyone. What do you do when you're not at work? Jiu jitsu, podcasting, hanging out with my cats. You could podcast. You could podcast. That could be your main job. If you're like, oh, do you know what? I've got enough money to live every month now, and I don't have to be an optician because I bloody computer algorithm. But that's the argument for Ubi, which I'm not necessarily against. Ubi. Yeah, I'm not. I'm not against. I'm just. What I'm saying is I don't.
Like, I have absolutely zero problem in having like a welfare state. My mum had like, we had family tax credits when I was young. My parents got divorced, we were fucking skinned. We nearly lost the house like loads of times. My dad died when I was 18. So now there's definitely no other money coming. Like, I'm not like, oh, you know, nobody should get anything. Like, I definitely, I don't have any problem with that at all.
What I have a problem with is that I think that most things end up going in a continuous direction. So if you go left, you're gonna get a little bit more left and a little bit more left and a little bit more left, a little bit more and the same if you go right. But apparently that's not true, isn't it? Because apparently the older we get, more conservative, we become, right? Which is normally what they say, right. If you're young and you're on the right, you're heartless.
And if you're old and you're on the left, you're brainless. You, as you get older and you realize like, you know what, guess what? Nothing is equal. There's no such thing as equality. Some people gonna have a lot more than other people. Some people gonna have it because they deserve it. Some people gonna have it because they were lucky. Like, whatever, you know, it's the same with jujitsu, it's the same with how tall you are, it's the same with what color your hair is. Like, whatever.
Like, there's gonna be a lot of differences. You know, I don't think any of us would claim that there's a quality. But what, what you always hear from the left is that we've got to make things more equal because they're not fair. These people, they disadvantaged this way, they disadvantaged that way and therefore we need to, everybody needs to kind of have the same opportunities and the same chances.
So, so ultimately then bring in another hundred million people from non english speaking countries and you fucking pay for them because they're not going to do anything when they get here. Well, you pay for them. Some are and some aren't, aren't they? It's like all the doctors, all the doctors and nurses. Yeah. You look at the NHS, there's not. A lot of doctors and nurses coming on boats. No, no, I'm not saying I didn't know you meant boats. I thought you said just come.
What's the difference between, you know, illegal immigrant? And so I saw what you were talking about. But ultimately, if you're kind of on the left side. Again, maybe just as a thought experiment, you should ultimately say, well, you can't just say, well, we need to lift up the british people that are struggling a little bit and give them some extra benefits. But what about people that are not british? Is that their fault that they were born in Bangladesh? It's not their fault. No, it's not.
So let them come as well and pay for them. Yeah, but I don't. You can have less, your kids can have nothing, but they will have a lot. Yeah, I see. We go. It's just. And you should be cool with that. I don't think even people on the left, and I would consider myself on the left, you. I'd probably say you were left. I don't think any of you are saying, let hundreds and thousands and millions of people in. How many, then? I think we're all saying it needs to be controlled.
I don't work in the home office, so I don't know. You'd have to look at finances. You can't give an exact number. How many doctors and dentists and jobs do we need? How much of your income are you willing to give? What, for just other people, a Zimbabwe doctor to come over and work? No. You don't know who's coming? I mean, if a Zimbabwe doctor comes over to work, he's going to be paying for you. But I'm talking about people that are. You talk about people or legal immigrants?
Well, are you saying that we can only allow people to come in the country who are doctors? We need people that we have vacancies for. You're sounding a bit like a right winger here. No, no, no, I'm not. This is my point. It sounds a bit right.
No, no, Jason, because a lot of people that are left than I have discussions with, a lot of my friends would consider themselves right of centre, and a lot of my friends consider themselves less than we all agree that immigration needs to be looked at and curbed. You can't just let any old. We haven't got the infrastructure. I think the reason for these riots are we've had lack of investment in services for decades. So there aren't enough schools, there aren't enough.
There aren't enough doctors, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. There aren't enough people repairing the roads. We don't have the money. So if you've got constant people coming in and coming in and bringing their families or start families here, and you haven't got enough classroom sizes or you haven't got enough, you've got too many people to go to the dentist. So people are now like, well, I've got a wobbly tooth I'm going to pull out of a pair of pliers.
If you don't invest in the country to create those systems and put them in place, then everyone's worse off because we are overcrowded for what we are. If you've got 100 vacancies in a nationwide for doctors, we go, right? We need doctors. So we put it out to Africa, Asia, whatever. We go, we need 100 doctors. We vet them, and then we let them in because we need them. But if you're not a doctor, if. You'Re not a doctor, we don't need you. This is the point.
This is why whoever's in government's gonna get slagged off, because there is whichever. But then where I work, okay, at Booker's DHL, if we need people to work in that warehouse to pick all the goods that need to be picked, and you've got native british people that don't want to work, they go to college, they go, no, I don't want to work in a fucking warehouse. Yeah, but why don't they want to work? Because they don't want to work in a warehouse. They come back to the benefits.
They don't have to survive. They just sign on and serve mental health problems. Well, my son doesn't sign. My son's 19. He doesn't sign on. He works in Tesco's. He's 19. Yeah. Wow. But those jobs need to be filled, otherwise we can't get the goods out to the shops. I worked in Tesco's all the way through my studies. There. You go 16 to. Without people working in those warehouses, the food doesn't get picked, so it doesn't go out to the supermarkets. People will fuck it.
Do you know how quickly London would run out of food if hgvs didn't deliver? We saw it in Covid, right? Do you know how quickly London would run out of food if HGV's weren't allowed into London? Well, in my Tesco, it was probably 36 hours. It's something like 48 to 72 hours. We'd run out. So if you haven't got people, a lot of the people in my warehouse are eastern European or Europeans, because there's no one wants to fucking do the jobs. The warehouse need those people.
So they're obviously, they're gone, right? They recruit abroad and they bring them over. Yes. They're not those high level educated people. So you can have doctors from Africa and you can have warehouse pickers from eastern Europe, but no one else. Where there are vacancies. We need them. If they're, if we just say, hey, just we'll open the doors, we'll let everyone in and like 5 million people turn up and they haven't got a job to go to. What the fuck are they going to do then?
We're going to be like, so what. Do we do with them? Well, that wouldn't happen. There isn't an is happening now happening now. I think the issue say wouldn't happen. These are illegal immigrants that are coming on the boat and we're sticking them in fucking hotels and travel lodges because we don't. We're trying to process them. There's a backlog. We haven't got enough people to process them. They're living there, they're getting money. Not a lot.
They're kind of like horrible little camps, really. I mean, what they're going to do, they can't work because we don't process them. So they're just bumming around, living off our tax money. And people are like, well, I'm fucking struggling here. He's struggling here. Then something gets stirred up on social media, something tragic happens, and they're like, these are the fucking people to blame, even though they've got nothing to do with it.
But it's because the population so angry and stressed. We've been through, we went through the financial crash 16 years ago, then we had austerity, then we had Covid, and it's just been a fucking crucible and it's just gone. And I'm absolutely not surprised it happened that the mob just went. That's what we discussed a few weeks ago when I had ash on and I said, it's just you're back to your red ants and your black ants and you put them together in a jar and you just keep shaking the jar.
Let them fight with each other and they never ask who's shaking the jar, which kind of then circles all the way back. He's brought this right back around again. Who controls things? The people I knew was leading you. Somewhere with this, and I was just intrigued to know what it was. It comes back to those 2000 bastards. 2000 bastards. Those nomad bastards that live on the moon. If you're listening to this, that is now pointing at Ed.
And. If we had more, if we had better infrastructure and investment in the country, there would be, I don't think there'd be so much as social as. David Brent said in the office. If men add bollocks, the problem is. Jason, we don't have that. So of course people are angry. And then, unfortunately, with this, with the writing, my understanding is it started with those girls being stabbed.
Then a lot of misinformation was spewed out on the Internet about this kid being a muslim immigrant, which he wasn't. And of course, that. That very thin veneer of that was holding back. This tension split apart and people went. Already to come off. So very small thing. Yeah, people are. It may happen again. It may happen again. But. So, going back to left versus right, it's my. My more right wing friends are like, we just shouldn't let anyone in at all. We should just be.
We should be like, make America great again. We should be like, see, I taken care of our. And no one else. Yes. I mean, I actually think, again, like, the whole. The whole left right thing again is another. It's another little diversion. It is. Because you can be left out. Right. How about common sense and fucking no common sense? That would be a better decision making tree. Like, we are the people who are going to follow common sense. Common defense was common, though. Exactly.
You could probably. You could have left ring views and. Right. Exactly. You. You know, and it's another. It's another little trick. I listen to a lot of right into a conflict. I listen to a lot of left leaning presenters on LBC, but even they are like, no one doesn't think immigration shouldn't be controlled. Everyone thinks immigration should be controlled. It's just that I don't think people know.
I don't think any one person's got the answer to how to control it and also to stop illegal immigration. It's such a situation with no real answer to it. How would you. What do you feel would be the most efficient answer to, say, the immigration problem at the moment? Well, I think. I would say that probably the way that you should approach it is not in terms of what you physically do about it, because that runs you into kind of hot water. Right? You put.
You put military boats in the channel and you just go, now you ain't coming. People are going to be drowning. They should do that. Yeah, but this is. That's crazy, right? Because public opinion leads us to other problems and what you. What you do is.
Which is, again, it's not something that I've researched that much, but I think roundly reform UK's kind of policies would mirror this, is you say if you come to this country illegally, you will never, ever be granted any kind of right to stay here, you'll never get a passport. You'll never be able to work here. You'll never be able to claim any benefits here. And as soon as we can get rid of you, we'll get rid of you. We'll fingerprint you.
If you ever come back again, you're getting detained immediately, and you're getting booted out again. If you come legally, then you get processed, you know, whatever it is you do in asylum claim, we try to do it however we do it. If you. If you disincentivize people from coming, because they go, man, England sounds shit. France sounds wicked, man. They just. Or Germany, let's say they give you, like, €50,000 a phone, a hostel. I'm gonna go Germany instead.
Then it's up to Germany to decide what Germany does. So this is what's happening, I think, at the moment. I just saw something the other day with Maloney. Is that her name? In Italy? Yes, Georgia. Georgia Maloney. She basically just said, like, if you're here illegally, you're going, yeah, we don't give a shit what we're gonna do. If you're here illegally, you're getting out. Whether we bus you out, fly you out, lorry you out. We're just taking you out. I hear a lot of people say.
I'm just saying. I don't. That's a super oversimplification of the problem. But if you just said, listen, if you come here illegally, there's nothing for you. But what about the legal. The legal immigrants? Yeah. Then you. Exactly. What you said is the common sense thing. What do we need? What are we sure of? What can we offer people and say, if you're a doctor, please come? But even if they're not. Even if they're not a doctor. When did Gosha come here? 1314 years.
So did she have a job to come to when she came in? No, she came for holiday. She came for holiday. She got a job. She's fought. Is she legal? I was telling her, don't bother getting british citizenship. She was like, no, I need to get it. And then, luckily, she did it. No, no, but this is what I'm saying. I am not. Look, my dad was an immigrant. I know, mate. I know. My dad came from South Africa with fucking interesting topic. I didn't know you had southern carriages.
Interesting Asians, but from South Africa, right? Yeah. No, they don't. They didn't speak like that, but, yeah. So my dad's an immigrant with no skills, like English and a bit of a swagger. And that was it for. Yeah, just had a, like, got a job in selling life insurance, never made a lot of money, never particularly successful.
But I think where the issue is, and I think this goes to, like, again, a proper global conspiracy theory, is that there is a concerted effort to have massive immigration from third world, second world, non compatible populations into western democracies to destabilize them, so you can then exert more control over people.
The thorn in the side of people who've wanted to control the globalists, people who've wanted to control everything, is people with enough education and resources to go, nah, mate, ain't doing that. No, I ain't living in a box. No, I'm not eating insects, I'm not driving an Evdeenen, I'm not only going on holiday in Cornwall, I'm not going to do anything you tell me to do. I'm not going to wash my clothes only once a month to save the planet and fuck off.
I'm going to go football, go cinema, go Gucci, and buy loads of Nike trainers. Those people are very difficult to deal with. Western Europe, Australia, New Zealand, North America, Canada, those kinds of places. And the kind of insidious way to kind of deal with those people is to encourage massive immigration so that you've now got a bigger problem, which is there's fucking people. Like just walking out of Tesco's with all the shit.
The crime is going mad, there's gang violence everywhere, the police don't respond to anything anymore. It's all getting crazy. There's people taking over blocks of flats. It's not safe to go. We need the army. We haven't got enough army. What about UN troops? Get fucking UN troops. Do it. And guess what? Now you've got foreign troops on the street, you got curfews, you got no go zones, you got how much you can travel and you're going to be showing your papers, please.
And you think this will happen? That's what is happening. That's what is going to happen. If you keep. Let's just say, I don't know what the numbers are, but let's just say, I think. Think this year, is it something. A hundred thousand people have come on boats. I think something like 100,000. Yes. Call it 100 grand for the whole year, just for the sake of illustration. And this is the most year ever. It's like double last year. So just extrapolate.
200,000 next year, 400,000 a year after that, a million people the year after that. All right. I don't think that's gonna happen, mate. Do you not? Did you? I don't think a million people are gonna come on boats. Really? No, because there's not enough boats in France. Do you think there was enough of those boats in France? I think if you had another question, people in, in northern France, the whole continent would tip up slightly. Where are those boats coming from?
Keep it even at a hundred thousand. Yeah. I don't think it will go to a million. Keep it locked, lock it at 100,000. After ten years, you're gonna have a million people. Yeah, that's. That's a lot of people. Yeah, but we've taken in more than that in the last decade. We've taken like, what, three and a half million, 5 million. So. So come back to my dad and Gosha, yeah. Learn to speak English. Yeah. Get a job, buy a house, get married, pay taxes. In the case of my parents, have kids.
That's cool. I don't have any problem with that. I don't have any problem with anyone going anywhere or doing anything and contributing to where they are, etc. Etcetera. What I have a problem with is I actually like England. I like living here. I like the multicultural culture. I like the fact that people queue up at the bus stop. I like the fact that I don't. People get a german mate. Well, less than they used to, but, you know, I like the pleasantries of living in the UK.
Yeah, but the UK is not how it used to be. No. And it's going to get less and less and less and less how it used to be. And if you see the countries that are kind of ahead of us in terms of having a lot of uncontrolled immigration, they are starting to have real massive problems now where they're starting to turn the other way. Like you were saying in Germany, Germany, Saxony, they're starting to the AfD, northern. Germany, like sort of Saxony around that area, like Duisberg.
And that there has been a. For a long, long time. Anyway, it's always been kind of East. Germany in a way, because what scares me, Jason, what scares me is because tensions are high at the moment. Right, let me just go back a bit about ten years ago. I thought if someone said, oh, do you think Britain's a racist country? I'd have gone, nah, I don't see it. Obviously, I'm white. I don't see it. But I. Mixed race friends, black friends, muslim friends. I didn't. Bald eagle. Yeah, okay, sorry.
But we used to talk about over the last five years. And they would always go, oh, no, it's much worse in the eighties, much worse than nineties. I don't really experience anymore. My kids haven't experienced it. But then in the last five years, I have seen a massive escalation and something that scared me, which was shocking. I just watched a panorama. I know you don't like BBC.
I watched this panorama and some of these riots, they were stopping people in their cars and they were like, are you white? Are you black? Blah, blah, blah. And I've seen CCTV as well of them going down streets, knocking on doors. And if you were white, you were okay. If you were black or you were mixed race, they were putting your windows through. And that's scary because, like you say, we live in a multicultural country, so you're not white, your face isn't white.
They'd be like, right, that's my mate Jason. He's just getting his car smashed up. And you could be in your flat scared and, oh, and she's polish, blah, blah, blah. I don't like this feeling that there's far more racism. That's what I said to you. And then eventually I'm gonna be saying, we need the army on the streets. This is crazy. People smash my flat out fucking five times because I'm not white. Yeah. And then you get to the armies on the streets. So I finally get it. Conspiracy theories.
Everything that happens. Everything that happens. I think with the conspiracy theories, there has to be. It has to be by design and there has to be intent on the way things are going. Now. The whole world is a huge, complex system and things emerge through the interaction of parts, of the systems, of organized. But with the conspiracy theories, they have to have a reason for everything happening and someone has to be behind every effect that is occurring. It's like this.
That can't have naturally occurred within the system. There has to be someone driving it and there has to be an ulterior motive behind it. It's not accepting that the world is a huge, complex system and it is not driven by certain people, by all these interacting parts. They are going to create so many things. They can. They can. But I feel with conspiracy theories, everything that happens, you have to attribute somebody who has. You never accept it.
You never accept that that's just emerged from within the system of how the parts have interacted. No, no, I do. That's the point. Every conspiracy theory is that way. Yeah. If you read the fourth turning, which I haven't read barely second or third. Yet, so I don't want to skip. The fourth turning is about the 24th. Sorry, who's it, by the way? You know what I want to say. Bruce Forsyth. But it's obviously, it's quite a well acknowledged piece of work.
Basically, it says that the world goes in 20 year cycles, I've heard you say roughly 80 years in total. You get a world war, then you get baby boom, then you get a massive, like a financial uplift because everyone's having kids and getting jobs, and then you get fucking complete craziness because no one's ever really known any hardship, which is what we're in now. Yeah. I've heard you say for. Apparently, if you kind of. It's not. You're not going to say it's 80 years, like, locked.
But you get these kind of repeating. Cycles because desperation for patterns, that's what. It is, though, I see, I know. Desperation for patterns, uncertainty. I am really deep in history. And so if we just look at our history in this country for the last 2000 years, I don't, I can't think of a century that's like last century where I can see those patterns. I can't see it in the 19th century or 18th or 16th century. I mean, you might. After the plague.
You may have had desperation to have these patterns. Yeah. All I'm saying is we're talking about complexity, which is uncertain. That's why people are trying to find these connections and patterns and have some kind of certainty and driver intelligence. You want to find, like in. Yeah, probably because maybe it makes sense. Yes, exactly. They would certainly. But the world and the, it is uncertain. And is that that discomfort of not knowing? That's right, because that's the problem. We want it.
Some shit we don't know. Yeah, we want. And we can't know, again, like predicting the weather, all this kind of shit, we can't be certain about it because it's hugely complex. That's the thing. The idea, like the idea of Jean Pierre Laplace, like a french philosopher, this concept of, like, Laplace's demon. And theoretically, you can predict the future. Now, Laplace's demon can predict the future, but they would have to know where every single possible atom in the world is at that point.
And the state that it's in and the interaction it would have with every other atom. It's not possible. It's not possible. That is the world. There is no certainty with this. And human nature is pattern seeking. We want these patterns, we want this certainty. But the truth of the matter is, what we live in the system we live in is complex. It is uncertain. It is non linear. There is no ability to predict this.
And some things just happen because the way the whole chaos theory, the idea of that is a nonlinear system, you put one in, necessarily get one out, and you can't predict what you're gonna get. But the conspiracy theories, this, I feel it's this constant search for answers and uncertainty within a complex system where there is no mind. Once it tries it. Yeah, it's trying to. I think that's probably pretty accurate. But I. But I think that those two things can coexist.
So maybe an example that I would. That I would use would be like, if you're teaching whatever's your new version of ecological dialogue, this is the first. Thing we've talked about. Did you say no? We mentioned it briefly. You have a class and you direct the class, but you don't know exactly how the class is going to go because you respond to, you don't know who's turning up, how they're feeling, what was their day like? Someone hurts their ankles, someone asks a question.
So you've got that complex system that's doing complex stuff, but you are also an influencing factor, that you're trying to push it in a certain direction. Both those things. I'm happy that they both. I agree with that because that's how it works. A certain effect can be caused by you doing something. You have the intention to do something. Absolutely. But it's on.
The problem is, I accept that, but other people will not accept that other things can happen without somebody kind of being the puppeteer. Do you see what I mean? They can absolutely coax this. Some people do absolute bastardly things because they're bastards and they fully planned it. And their intention was this and the outcome was because they're a sneaky little shit behind the scenes, pulling the strings, all this kind of stuff.
But then other stuff happens, and there may be a pattern there with the other stuff that's happened. There may be a pattern in numbers or whatever. There may be a pattern that looks like somebody has intentionally done it, but it's just happened. Nobody's intentionally done it. Then people may jump on that shit and they may profit from it, but it doesn't mean they did it. They just saw what happened and what has naturally occurred and jump on it. I don't disagree with that.
But there doesn't have to be a driving force. Unless you believe in the will of God and all this kind of stuff, then that's the complete opposite. Then everything is kind of predetermined and whatever, but I personally don't. And it is a complex system. And not every outcome is driven by a direct intention of a person or a group or the illuminati or the. Nazis from the moon as an overriding concept. I think the whole point of the universe is to create novelty.
That God, whatever you consider God to be, whatever is the. The creation force, was bored because it is everything and it knows everything. So it designed a system where it. Where it couldn't predict and see what's. Gonna happen if God doesn't know what the fuck's gonna happen. Well, that's why we definitely. My mom always goes, well, because my mum, mum and dad are christians. They always like, well, that God gave man free will, you know?
So I guess if you've got a. Christmas gift idea for your parents. What? That book, what's it called again? The naked Bible. The naked Bible. Don't expect. No, she's on the thing. The thing that also muddies the water is, unfortunately, our governments do lie to us. Yeah. And so sometimes we're like, oh, we've just found out they lied to us about that again. And then we go, tick. They must lie about everything. Well, it makes these. They don't lie about everything.
No. Like, the news isn't always false, is it? Like sometimes a story goes around the globe and we all go, yes, we accept that. I mean, there is objective truth. Right? There's no such thing as objective truth. So everything's down to perspective and form of life and all this perspective. The media, it will be their perspective. Yes. We could agree that media, certain media stations have certain directions and political sway. Absolutely. And this is the thing. It can be down to.
You know, they can mislead you because that's what they were told to do. They can mislead you because it's incompetent journalism. This is the other thing. Like, we haven't gone to the Wakefield papers and all this kind of stuff, like with the MMR and autism. We don't have time now. A lot of that was to do with the fact that the media were idiots and they didn't even read the paper. They just followed it and it all became anti vax. Anti vaxx. Like, Wakefield never said don't vaccinate.
He just said, use single vaccinations. Not on MMR jab, but most of that shit and most of that anti vax movement. Yes, it was Wakefield. Yes, he's an idiot. Yes. He tricked a lot of people. And that's why? He's lost his license. And everything was retracted, but the media fucked that up so badly, and then they got defensive when all the other kind of scientists came out and go, you've got this wrong. But they reported it without even doing any research into it. That paper is awful.
Have you read the paper before? So you can still get it from the Lancet. And the only one you can get is literally says in massive red letters, like, retracted across it. One of the worst pieces of science I've ever seen. It's based on the opinions from the parents of when they think the onset was small sample. It was. There's so many things wrong with it. But my point is, the media fucked that really badly, and everyone believed the media. Science, media. This is right. The science was bad.
The media refused to do the due diligence and do their work, and everyone got fucking misled on it. And there's the adage, isn't there, that you know a lot? Let's call it a lie. A lie is halfway around the world before the truth has got his pants on. And I've seen this, and I'm sure you guys have as well. A story starts, and then there's chinese whispers, and something else gets added to the story. Yeah. So it's like, you can't put it back then. No, it's everywhere. It's like a chinese whisper.
And then it's like everyone believes that. That narrative. That narrative. And then there were counter narratives, and then you're like, I'm not sure what to fucking believe it. You can't just pull back. Stop. Stop. Like, let me just say this again. Like, by that, it's gone. The horse. The horse has bolted. The horses bolted. Ran around. Around the field, had a nice life. Been shot, turned into glue. And then you wonder where the fuck has gone when you open the barn door. It's long gone.
Long gone. Yeah. So I am skeptical of a lot of things I hear, and I think you said something that was quite good. Quite a few podcasts back. You pause, you wait like, 72 hours, and then you start to form an opinion on it. Because I know I get triggered, right? Because a gut reaction would be like, oh, my God, I can't believe a muslim kid has stab these girls. Then you let the dust settle, and. Then you wait to see what happens, and then you decide which truth you're going to believe.
But I think, and this is the reason I wanted to bring up with you, is I just. And a lot of my other friends, I would say, are into conspiracies. And that's not a bad thing. I don't mean to. I think we were sort of discussing. It about how it was bad thing. Oh, shit. Sorry. A number of conspiracies will turn out to be truth. Absolutely. So it's not bad to go. I'm a bit skeptical about conspiracy.
It's just my friends that are more into it believe a lot and some that are, like, really, really out there. And I'm like, why do you believe that? Look, I'm even skeptical about stuff. Let's go back to the moon landings. I think they could absolutely get to the moon, but then there's bits where, because I don't understand the science. The Lem goes down, Collins is up there. It then comes back up, and it can turn around and, like, fix itself on and they can turn around.
Well, they don't turn around. They just go backwards all the way back. Now, I don't understand the science of that because I don't know about. I don't know. I just don't know. So I'm like, oh, how is that doable? Or is that science fiction? Can it really launch off there and turn around? But I don't know. But I don't know. I don't know. But everything else, I'm like my, I guess my narrative is. I go, yeah, that seems probable. Yeah, that seems probable. That seems probable. That seems probable.
And there are lots of other little things that along the way that are not in relation to the space program that I go, all right, for example, the Americans have an early warning nuclear system. It's 50,000 miles from Earth. It's a satellite that's just like, looking for heat traces of rocket launchers. And I'm like, well, that's 50,000 miles away. Again, I'm like, well, that's managed to get out there, you know, so go. Rocket's only got to go another 200,000.
Well, that's what the fucking, that's always my question. Is it? How do you. I don't want an interviewed all these people that worked, what's it called? My main minds for failing me. I've let someone else who's a fucking top journalist, who's gone out and interviewed all these top fucking people working the defense systems in America, and she's got blah, blah, blah, blah, and put a fucking book together and these are like retired generals and wherever.
And so she's built up what would happen, a story of what would happen if a nuclear attack would happen. So I have to go on what she's done, because she's done the digging. So I have to go, right? I don't know. She's done it for me. It's like you could say to me, mate, there's a fire over there. If I put my hand in this fire, it'll fucking burn me. And I'll go, does it? I don't know. I've not done it. But I've just seen you do it. You said it's hot. So I go, I believe you. I believe you.
That's the thing. Firsthand experience is really the only way you can absolutely know. Now, the problem is you can also misinterpret and misperceive things firsthand. We don't know anything about anything and never will, basically, is all we can, really. I mean, we've all done that experiment where you've got hot water and cold water and you put your hand in cold water or hot water and you. You put it in the other and it's not hot. Is that when someone's asleep and they wet themselves?
That's another one. That's another one. The point I'm making, I'm probably fucking turning that up. But our senses can be fooled. I used to be an amateur magician. Absolutely. Of course. And I used to do slight han. I could not work out this trick, right? This guy was doing this levitating card trick. I was literally like, it must be magic. It must be fucking magic. I could. And I knew tricks. I was like, how the fuck is he doing it? I bought the fucking trick.
I won't spoil it for you guys at home. And then I was like, oh, magic now, cool. But we. Our eyes and our senses can fool us. And it's so. It's so difficult to navigate the fucking world. All the information coming at us now compared to when we were, like, 20, where we didn't have the Internet, we just had other news or a newspaper, which I wouldn't read because I'm dyslexic. We just bombarded now. That's the thing. But now we're like, I don't know if this is true.
And there's no, if there was a filter, who would do the filter? I want to know some of your. More before we wrap some of your more rapping, I hope. No, because I think this should be a two part because we've got too many experiences. This has already been 12 hours for first part. Can you give me some of your more outrageous ones? I mean, I do believe, yeah. There'S nothing more outrageous than flat earth. Right. That is the, that is the, that is the one.
I mean, you know, like I said, the big one for me that's relevant is the whole Covid thing because we just went through it. Yeah. It's actually a thing that we lived through. It's not like. I have to go. Oh, well, things were different in the sixties, in the moon landings. I don't know, we didn't watch the teddy whatever. Like. Yeah. Watching. Seeing how people were behaving, you know, so, so that one.
But I mean, again, like, to me it's pretty self evident that there was a lot of shenanigans that went on. But I think in terms of, in terms of like, what is the most outrageous? The most outrageous is that we live on a flat plane, which is proof of God. If that is true, I don't get why God couldn't make a round. He could, so why would he? No, no, think about it. Think about what? What are we told about how the universe was created? We are told is a big bang. I think.
I think when we were children. Yes, okay, but the. I think shifting the current theory then probably, I mean, maybe I'm completely wrong, is like we don't know. It's a. It's a we don't know expanding universe going at a gazillion miles an hour and we know how old it is and. Okay, that's 14 and a half billion years. We don't know. Yeah. If you're on a flat plane with a cover on it, someone made it, that's not, that didn't come out of a bang or a thing or a. Whatever, equally, you could have.
Could have created a bang. Yeah, he could have, but he could have not. Whereas if you're on something that's designed, someone designed it, but like, you see what I mean? He didn't know what. But you were saying earlier, like, if you. If he knows everything and he is everything, he's not gonna go, I'll make a. Don't, cuz I know exactly what that is. He'd be surely been more like, you go, I'm gonna throw this shit out. Did he make your first time or is there other universes out there?
Because he fucked up this one and he made a better one and a slight better. Oh, that's shit. That is that. You'Re into other realities. I've got two quick ones. Just quickly, just, just have interest. Bermuda triangle. I randomly watched the program last night, so I'm just intrigued. Probably a weird area due to magnetic whatever. Well, that's the thing with something when you're in there. Magnetite. And that's why the compass goes crazy and it's like the hurricane corridor or something there.
Yeah. You would pretty much be in line with what the current theory is with that. Yeah. I mean, most. The thing is, most. Most stuff works better on a flat Earth model than it works on a ball of flat Earth. Again, see how I tried to move away from flat Earth? We didn't finish. Aliens, we also didn't finish. Now I'm. Now I'm. Now I'm on my. Now I'm on my naked Bible book. Aliens. I was balls deep in aliens when. I was the guy's name again, Malino. I went from aliens, not aliens.
And now I would love it if there were aliens, but again, I wouldn't. I wouldn't say. I wouldn't say. I was like, no, there are no aliens because. Because it could be from another dimension, blah, blah, blah. There's certainly a marked means, like, not from, but it seems kind of, there must be other life out in the universe, and if there is ever. Jodie Foster. Yeah, but, like, when. How pissed off would you be if you met the alien? It was just like, was it her dad? Was you be.
No, but that's the whole point. Do you think that's what, isn't it? It's like. But that wasn't. That wasn't that. Because. If it was. Like, a human being, I'm like, no, fuck off. Go. I gotta try again. Go get changed. Get a better one than that. That's a good film, though. Contact. I watched after Interstellar, I watched that other alien one that was not out that long ago with, you know, they communicate in patterns and. Brilliant. What's that called? With Abbott and Costello? With the Squids?
Yeah, they're kind of squiddy. Squiddy alien, amazing film. Arrival. Arrival. The arrival. This sounds good. Yeah, you should watch that. Was it quite a recent film or ten years? Ten years. It probably fills the ten year rule. My logic behind aliens is if life isn't an anomaly in the universe, there must be some civilizations that are more advanced than us and can have the technologies to fold space and time and whatever. And maybe they're here and they're observing some and we don't even know.
They just probably wouldn't even be able to detect them. That. Or would you believe they're in this current dish and it's that 2000 moon nazis. Do you think they have the power to do stuff like that still? Because the ones that, you know, the puppet masters that we have, the illuminati. Whatever you want to call them. Do you think they can do shit like that? What, fold dimensions? Time travel. Do you think they came to time travel and stuff or. I think time travel is really.
I think time travel vague wide, isn't it? From the very vague understanding I have of it, is difficult. But interdimensional. Yeah, isn't is not so difficult. The multiverse theory shit, isn't it? No, but the thing that I saw, which, again, I don't really understand fully well, but I've spoken to a few smart people and they've said it seems legitimate. Was that MH 370, the plane that disappeared? Some malaysian flight. Remember that few years. You haven't seen the video that surfaced recently.
I have. Right, but who's filming them from the satellites from the US? No, because I've seen a shot from below. I know I've seen a shot where the airplane's here and the recording devices here. So I was like, who the fuck is now? The ones I've seen, I put them actually on my video. They're satellite is satellite footage. Search from above. But basically there's three orbs that are. And you believe a satellite is that it's 370. Why is it a spy plane going.
Around this plane and then it disappears and everybody. But that could be fake. No, but everyone who's reviewed the footage. So they basically then took it to, like, the special effects supervisor for Marvel Avengers. They've taken it to, like, a physics labs, etcetera. And they've said, like, is this bullshit? And everybody who's reviewed it has said, like, this. This is real. It's not weak. But they could have showed to 100 people and 97 said, no, it's not real. True, true.
I mean, it's going back to photo. I see photographs and they go, this is meant to be Mars. But look, here's the exact same image. Those are definitely not Mars. It's earth. Because there's camels over there. Definitely not either one could be fake. I mean, remember the face on Mars? Yes. I was like, oh, my God, there's a face on Mars. Definitely alien. An alien civilization. And then later on I've gone, I'm just seeing a pattern. I want it to be a face. We are. We. Pyramids.
You realize again, the brain. The brain naturally has, like, will fire at face looking objects. Yes. Like there's an area in the fuse von Gyrus that will. I see it in gates all the time. I'm like, that looks like face. This is what I did on face deception, broken gates, like locks as well, like door handles. Like an area in your brain will ping something that's configured like a face and there's no experience of being upside down. All this kind of stuff.
So we literally have an area in the brain which, which is kind of almost, you know, it's activated by something which looks like a similar configuration or face. So of course we thought there was. Of course we're going to see that. So aliens. I could be with you in aliens because it's always been something. So aliens. I'm like, that's be true. Yeah. I would say currently I don't sound stupid, but. Lady Gaga, Tom Hanks. Are they all. Yeah. Are they all lizard people or they all this.
Are they part of the Illumina. Just bad people. You don't like Roswell? Well, so Roswell is interesting, right? Because again, I don't know if I believe it or. I know. Yeah. I don't know if he's real or secret tech or alien tech or just military that they don't want to share, etc. Whatever. But again, if you. This is another one of my like back to flat Earth again. But if you. If you agree that Roswell happened some kind of flying saucer crash in the desert, what is more likely?
You have the ability to fold space time, travel faster than the speed of light come from because the nearest star is, you know, blah, blah, blah, come from wherever the fuck you came from. And then you get to America and you're like, what are you doing, bro? You're gonna crash, bro. You fucking. Do you know what I heard more recently? Hang on. Or you just came from about 2000 miles over there from another continent and run out of petrol when you go here. What's more likely?
The second I've had, I had. I've heard russian fuckery in that, in that theory, what I've heard most recently because Roswell was what got me sparked on aliens all those years ago was actually it was a high altitude air balloon that was detecting nuclear explosions, right? Could be, yeah. Yeah, exactly. Because the Russians were ability to navigate space. It's highly unlikely that way. And crash. Yeah. This is why a lot of these recovered craft, I think are just like balloons. I just don't.
I'm not sure I buy that. Which is what satellites are, I think. What? Just high altitude balloons. Balloons, right. Yeah. Oh fuck. Is it? I'm on the verge of being late as well. Thank you for coming in. Yeah. Examiners, let's go do some research. I was going to make. We were like, what should we? And then I got. I was really ill in the week and then just didn't. Let's actually put some work in next time. I'll do the hats. Thank you guys for listening. So far, I've still managed to hit it.
Bum fucking clinging on one episode every week. Tuesday, 05:00 a.m. and we'll catch you next time. Yeah. Rap is such a competitive sport. My glasses still on it's the incredible. Dark they want to try me like. The fed of a car but I'm. Unashamed of the gospel I never retort that statement all the rappers are waxing.