Music. Make you uncomfortable no it didn't at all I was like fighting back a burp and I was like oh I'm gonna be pressured to talk and I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do it yeah yeah I shouldn't talk like that because I always listen to our recordings back and then I hear things that I say I'm like that's cringeworthy don't talk like that Ashley I always feel like whenever I listen back especially whenever it's a your episode and I am the providing the commentary oh
yeah you're of the audience i'm saying yeah a lot i always say interesting i'm so back here and and so in my car whenever i feel like it's at full volume i'm like what'd you say lauren i can't hear you no note for next time yeah note for next time so then i'm like intentionally like get up on the mic yeah you kind of have to fuck it with your mouth yeah i was gonna say there was that one time that whenever my mic wasn't recording and aaron was like you just gotta
yell into it and And I was like, I feel like I am. And I feel like they could hear me heavy breathing the whole time. That. And then my mic wasn't recording. So. Yes. I do remember that. Yeah. I do remember that. Good Lord. I was like, I'm doing the best. How the times have changed. It really has. Yes. Yeah. I do have a little like sentimental thing before I get into the many things that I have written down.
Oh, gosh. Okay. I just want to say that I appreciate that we have such a healthy friendship. I was talking to Seth about this today. Because I feel like I have a very healthy marriage, too, where if any kind of conflict or vibes feel off, we just talk through it. You do have a healthy marriage, that's for sure. And it's also like that in our friendship. I think in our friendship, we take three business days to feel the vibes out of each other. That's true. And then we come back to it.
Very true. Because I will usually love bomb you. Which is what gets you to open up and start talking and then it opens up the floodgates and so that's accurate but then I feel like even it's not even like ever conflict it's just like it's really stupid stuff and it's entirely like I'm not gonna say it's always me it is most of the time me sorry I am adjusting my mic you're okay I feel like I'm really loud I have difficulty putting my feelings and emotions into words.
I used to, and the crappy thing is, is I used to tell Aaron all the time, like, I'm a really good communicator and that's a bold face lie. I am not. I have this thing where I just really am so scared of hurting people's feelings that I just deal with it internally on my own and I just stuff it way down in there. And I have recently been told by many people, like, that's not a healthy way to deal with things. You should probably talk about stuff. No. I've just never felt...
Safe enough, I think. Well, and I think with you holding your feelings in, it hurts my feelings worse. Oh, yeah. Because then I'm like, oh, but why can't you talk to me? Yeah, because like, hello, we've been through it. Yeah. And so, I mean, I know. Yeah, I know. I know. It's a work in progress. It's so funny, though. I was telling Seth today, I was like, I'm just so blessed that like, I have a healthy relationship with her that like, we can talk.
And then as soon as we talk within 30 seconds i'm like cool all is well we've spoke our piece but like it's not even really no and it's never awkward it's never like yeah i. Can't really say we've ever had a situation where i'm like okay yeah i'm still not completely over this this is.
Going to be weird for the next few days it's i've never had that happen no it's like we talk and then it's like oh okay because it's most of the time it's like massive miscommunication or assumptions on both of our apart yes well and we're kind of we're both overthinkers and so yeah yep yeah so i just it's really hard to break that cycle too to not be an overthinker so you know if you need any friendship advice here we go yeah maybe like just love bomb each other until you can it's
true it's a little psycho it's okay we still love each other absolutely last night as i was texting you i was was like in verbalizing all of my emotions I was like god it kind of felt like you I was like I have done that trust word vomited on many people but sometimes I just like that's that's that's the problem like you hold it in for so long that it kind of I don't want to use the word fester because I don't ever like yeah it's never in like a negative way where I'm like yelling at
that person but it does fester to a point where it there's no controlling it or containing it it literally it's just like a five gallon bucket of here's all of the things that I've been trying to keep inside for the last couple of days that are bothering me and I've overanalyzed and overthought them and yeah you gotta you gotta nip it in the butt during the moment which is it's very hard it's so hard especially because sometimes I think whenever.
You talk to yourself or you're Or even just bothered by something the whole. Time you're telling yourself. Is it valid that I'm feeling this way or am I just being crazy? Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah. No, I agree. But no, especially whenever I have, like, not even conflict, but if I feel like there's things that I need to talk about with somebody, it's all that consumes me. And the whole time I'm like, I'm like, I need to, I need to clear this. It affects your mood tremendously.
Yeah. Yes. Agreed. Yep. Well, thanks. I love you. I love you too. And I am also glad that we have a healthy relationship. A healthy relationship and coping mechanisms. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So going into today's topic, I need to tell you also, you know this, but I'm just going to tell it for everyone because I feel like it's a good little how bad things happen in threes. Oh, okay. So whenever I was at my mom's for a week, I was working remotely the whole time.
And I felt like the whole week had been going pretty smooth. Honestly, I was like, cool. It's Friday. Well, I guess everything started on Thursday. day so i was like it's thursday i just have like one more full day and then i get to go home i only like being away from my house for like three days i was going to say to also elaborate on this.
You're you're kind of an introvert to a degree like you don't like leaving your space and again like i and maybe there are some people out there that are totally fine with this but i don't sleep comfortably at anybody else's house other than my own facts so my bed is you're like kind of exhausted by the end of the time too because yeah it's not your bed no and it's just not my routine i don't feel like i you can still bring all of your stuff to do skincare shower all
of that but it still feels like you're out of place yeah yep so i was just ready to be home and so thursday night happens and there's all these storms that roll through and the big brunt of the storms were basically done and so I'm sitting there getting ready to cook dinner and this massive flash of lightning hits I assume pretty close to my mom's house at that point because it was like all of the the windows just flashed. And I remember seeing, like, bright light and also red.
But I don't know if it's because it was just, like, so fast and bright that my eyes were like, what was that? Mm-hmm. And it was so loud. And so... My little brother comes out of the room and I'm like, are you OK? And he was like, yeah, that was so scary. And so then we realized that the Wi-Fi is off. And so he's going to try to figure it out while the Wi-Fi router is fried. And so I'm like, dope. OK. Yeah, I still have to work tomorrow.
Yeah. And I'll be damned if I'm using a vacation day for this. I guess I'll just use a mobile hotspot all day. say. Thankfully, my parents had a like separate router for the camper that they use so they can watch Netflix and stuff. That would never happen to me. No, that would never be my luck. It was a saving grace because they were both also out of the country. So I'm having to communicate all of this through Facebook.
But I also don't want to be that person that's like, oh, my gosh, all of this is going wrong. I'm just like, hey, can you give us like your Internet provider? Maybe we can call them and we can try to get them here tomorrow to fix the router.
Yeah, because they're on on vacation they're supposed to be chilling yeah you're blowing their phone up letting them know that all hell has broke loose at their house correct so then 30 minutes later this guy comes up to the door and i can see him and i'm just not used to people coming up to my door and it has happened it had happened multiple times throughout the week so their amazon person is not an amazon truck it's somebody in their own real vehicle but i
was like who is this guy coming up to this house in this random vehicle. Well, this person happened to be their neighbor and he was like, do you guys have water? And in my head, I was like, yeah, we literally just used water. No, the lightning had also hit the well pump and fried that. So we had no water. Love it. And I was like, okay, cool. I can deal with that water until like maybe in the morning. It was temporarily fixed long enough for my brother to take a shower, but not me.
I was going to say, what was your fix for that? Like, I'll just use, it's fine. I'll use bottled water. It's fine. Well, there was enough pressure for me to get a trickle to wash my face at least. So I kind of felt clean. But I am a very I am a night shower person. So the fact that I did not I did not have a restful night's sleep. I was going to say, did you feel cringe cringe going to bed dirty? Yes. Also, because I was planning on washing my hair that night.
And so that just felt like extra gross. Oh, yeah. It was nasty. So then the next morning, the neighbor texts me because I gave him my phone number. And he was like, yeah, we're having the guy come out this morning.
And I was like, praise Jesus. okay Lorraine needs a shower yes and I was like I'll just stay working in my pajamas because I don't want to get dirty I don't want to wear clean clothes when I still feel dirty so I said my brother to go get us coffee and as I'm working minding my own business my mom has four dogs two dachshunds a pit bull mix and then an Australian shepherd they're all outside and all of a sudden
and i hear one of them screaming and so i am like jesus christ there's like a dog fight, because that's happened it has happened lady has had lots of training since then so like i wasn't too worried but like i just heard a dog there was still that possibility absolutely so then i get out there and the australian shepherd has his like arm completely extended out his front like arm completely extended out and he is screaming. He's also a very vocal dog.
Like, as soon as you walk in the house, he's, like, yowling and just wanting your attention. Mm-hmm. And so then I look at him and I'm trying to get him to come to him or come to me because I'm still in my pajamas and I... And just not, I'm just wanting him to have some kind of self-preservation at this point. Him or you? Him. Because come to me, like, because you have to walk down a good, like a couple, like not a couple, like maybe six stairs to get down to him, which is fine.
But he's also in the middle of the yard. And so I'm just trying to get him to come here to see, like, how big of an emergency is this? No, he is sat just screaming on the ground with his arm out. And so I go over there and of course, all the other dogs are freaking out because why are you screaming? So the two dachshunds are also jumping on him. And I'm screaming at all of the dogs to stay away from him. And lady is just circling him because she's like, what's going on?
Like, why is he not moving? Danger, danger, danger. Yes. So the whole time, I'm just like, okay, all right, how do I get this dog in this house? Because I mean, it's not that it's impossible to pick him up, but he's at least 50 pounds, I feel like. This situation is giving me anxiety right now. And also, I picked fucking Tessa up out of the pond. And she's bigger. She was bigger than 50 pounds. So I know. I know your ass can pick that dog up. Oh, and I absolutely did. And I carry PJs or not.
But by the time I get inside, like my anxiety, like my heart is just like pounding out of my chest. And I'm like, I need my little brother here right now because we have to go to the vet. And so I'm also trying to hold the dog up so that he's not putting any pressure on this joint because it's definitely dislocated.
Right so then i call my little brother and i'm like where are you and he's like i'm like 10 minutes away and i'm like you need to get here right now oh he dislocated his elbow and we have to go to the vet and he's like well is he okay and i was like i guess but i still need you to get here because we have to take him how did you come to the conclusion like i wouldn't have even known what was wrong with him well the fact that he couldn't bend it is just i just automatically
assumed like dislocation yeah i wouldn't have thought that i just i don't know i was just trying to problem solve. I don't know what the fuck's wrong with you. I don't know what the fuck's wrong with you. In between this time. After I hang up the phone with my little brother, I am like heavy breathing because I'm just like my adrenaline is going and I'm just slightly starting to kind of freak out. But like I'm also like whenever I get really like high stress, I'm like I want to cry.
So I'm like, I need to call the one person who will completely downplay this scenario to me. So I call my husband. Oh, God. He, of course, answers in the middle of the day. But I am out of breath and I'm telling him this situation.
He's like, OK, so wait for your brother. to get there get him to the vet it will be okay he's just that person like if you're literally experiencing the work like the worst thing i think i'm the same way though like to a degree i think i am to a degree too yes because to seth's mom she will be freaking out about like the world is falling yes it's to somebody else you're like that but in your own situation it's very hard to be like all right let's just you know bring it down
a notch drama queen you know yes yeah so then after After I get like half calmed down, I'm like, let me call my boss. Let her know. I am going to be out of the office while I take this dog to the vet. Janie, of course, does not answer. And I'm like, well, I don't want to be away because like, what if she realizes I'm away? And then she's like, what are you doing? But also I can't type one handed because I'm still holding this dog up. Yeah.
And so then Darius gets in the house and I'm like, okay, I need to put on real human clothes really quick. I need you to hold him. Darius also has similar stress to me. So he's also on the verge of tears. Yeah, you sound like a giant-ass dumpster fire. It was. Long story short, we got him to the vet. As we were putting him on the stretcher, Darius popped his elbow back in. But we still left him to have x-rays and everything like that.
Because it was more like, I need a babysitter for a while while I go, like, chill myself out. Yes. And so as we—I had not even told my mom or Kevin about this. So then Kevin texts me and he was like, hey, I heard that the water guy was there. Didn't know because I'm not home. And he's like, you should have Darius go out there and talk to him. And I was like, oh, can't. We're at the vet. And my mom goes, why? And then Kevin goes, why? And my mom then types back and she goes, was that a typo?
Because they're automatically assuming there was a dogfight in somebody's day. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so then as I'm getting ready to respond, then we have to put him on the stretcher. So then I have to wait. And so then Kevin's trying to call me. Oh, my gosh. We got it all sorted out. But then my mom was confused because I guess I did not communicate that we were leaving him there.
So she's watching us on Life 360 when we're just trying to go get wing stop afterwards to chill out and wait to see how long this takes. But my mom thought we were taking him to the emergency bed.
So lesson of the day is bad things happen in three and you're not gonna do that again, no i'm not i'm not going down there for a week no not a week man not by myself no no i'm gonna need somebody else to manage i would have probably come home after that and just like drink myself to death what did i do oh i went to a whitetail banquet with my in-laws after that that night it was good i had a couple well i started out with a whiskey sour and then i went to go get it refilled but
then this guy looked at me he goes amaretto sour and i was like, No, I said whiskey sour. I did. And he said, so amaretto sour. And I was like, sure, I guess. I guess. Like, have you never heard of a whiskey sour? Are you deaf? I said whiskey sour. Well, and then the girl next to me, she was like, oh, I just had an amaretto sour. But like amaretto sours are so sweet. It's like that sweet where it like leaves a coating on your teeth. I don't like amaretto, period.
I think it's fine, but I just really wanted a whiskey sour again. No, man. I'm a clear, clear alcohol girl. Yeah. And it's, I don't know. I ended up with heartburn. The prime rib was fire, though. Nice. Yeah. So when it rains, it pours and all shit comes in threes. Yes. Thankfully, it could have been worse. Yeah, could have. But hey, it happened in a quick time span because, you know, whenever you have those two bad things happen.
And then you're waiting months for the third thing. yeah yeah it's true yeah agreed all right pack your warmest flannel and your fleshy skin hat aka coon skin hat i didn't know if that was like wait but why is it a fleshy skin an animal fleshy skin yeah like you know like a raccoon well yeah i know i know that but you just said fleshy skin so i was thinking of a fleshy hat but a fleshy hat are you thinking in like fleshlight hat i'm thinking of it puts the lotion on its skin or else
it gets the hose again that's what i'm thinking of okay well on that note all right we're gonna go sit around a campfire and roast some weenies yeah yes while i give you a peek into my childhood oh introduce introduce you to my Aunt Sheila, who introduced me to loving horror, the creatures. That she created to scare my cousin and I. We will then cover some popular urban legends. All right. Ranging from the Ozark Howler, the 2016 clown sightings. I remember that. And the Bell Witch.
The Bell Witch. I don't, okay, I'll, yeah, I'll comment on that. I'm not gonna lie. The Bell Witch was actually kind of lackluster after like, I mean, I don't know what I was anticipating. Like researching it was lackluster? Yeah, kind of. Oh yeah, but okay, Okay, I'll just talk about it when we get there. Okay, okay. Okay. Urban legends are a genre of folklore concerning stories about an unusual or humorous event that many people believe to be true, but largely are not.
These legends can be entertaining, but often concern mysterious peril or troubling events such as disappearances, strange objects, or entities. Do you think that urban legends were kind of created to, like, wrangle children?
Children like stay out of the woods or else that momo that momo is going to eat you okay okay so all right i the only reason i'm saying that because my aunt literally did this to cody and i okay she created urban legends to do this to my gosh i've honestly always loved scary movies urban legends haunted houses and scary stories i come by it honestly ever since i was a kid i had had been surrounded by these things. My Aunt Sheila is the one who really drove my love for all being spooky and scary.
Some of my earliest memories were watching Halloween, every single Halloween before we would go trick-or-treating. My mom always made chili. My mom's chili is always the best chili, even though she literally never follows her recipe. You know what's so ironic about that? Okay, let's talk about irony here. Go ahead. Our moms have the same birthday. Your mom and my mom have the same birthday. I was also raised on horror, but from my mom.
And my mom also, every Halloween, makes chili. That is so funny. Talk about weird. That is weird. Very. My mom does like horror. She doesn't like it as much now because Kevin is not really a big horror fan. Like if we watch a scary movie at the house, Kevin will politely excuse himself to go watch something else.
I also think that both of our moms have that very like they have the same look of disapproval they do like you know what i mean like when you fucked up you know you fucked up oh absolutely it's just that look like yes what the fuck uh-huh yeah yeah and now it's very funny my brother is now like actively getting these oh yeah looks and i'm like this is what i had my whole childhood Does your mom wear glasses sometimes?
Yeah, she wears glasses 24-7. Does she look over the rim when she's like, are you freaking serious? No, she usually, it's more of like a side eye through the glasses with the like the pursed lips. Oh, my mom does the pursed lips too. It's an iconic. It is. It is. Okay, sorry. It's just very funny how similar they are. No, it is. It is kind of funny. Whenever we talk about, yeah, the similarities of our moms. Yeah.
Yep. Yep. Sheila was the cool aunt who had no kids and really just took me and my cousin as her own. She would fully raid my candy stash after a night of trick-or-treating. Well, yeah, it's payment. Absolutely. Like, she would go do all of the things with us, but then she was like, after a good stop, she would just pick out what she wanted. But we always get the good stuff and we reap the shit stuff for the kids.
I'm just kidding. I don't do that very often. Whatever. It happens. But it is payment, man. Absolutely. Because trick-or-treating is a lot of hard work, especially for adults. It absolutely is. And trying to coax kids to be like, okay, go to this random stranger's door, okay, and knock and be very polite to this person that you don't know when they give you candy, but we also tell you to stay away from vans that are passing
out candy. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Outside of scary movies, she also had quite the imagination that to this day, my family and I will talk about some of the creatures that she created just to scare Cody and I. The first creature she created was named Bingo. Bingo lived in her basement in a house that she used to live in in Huntsville. I didn't really remember what he looked like. So I had to do a quick group text to be like, what do we remember about these creatures?
Because I just remember that they were definitely used to scare tactics, but also just like funny stories. memories. So after talking in the group text, it was decided that he was a clown. I was going to say bingo sounds like either a rabid dog or a clown. So I think that I thought that he was a rabid dog, but everybody else remembered a clown. So we're just going to go with clown.
It wasn't that we weren't allowed in the basement, but I remember that she would go down there to pretend to lock him up so that he wouldn't get us. And there would be times that she would make sounds to scare us to tell us that like he was going to get us. So, you know, like there would be times that I would remember she would like quickly run up the stairs and she'd be like, oh, my gosh, I just escaped bingo. I don't like that. I don't like that. Because here's why.
Forever and like even now when I like when I like shut the lights out in the kitchen and the whole house is dark, I'm like swiftly walking through the house like something's behind me and going to get me. And it's because of shit like that. No, it's actually kind of tragic. Like, you know, you watch those pranks of like parents scaring kids and then the kids are actually traumatized. Dude, I've got the worst traumatizing story.
I don't. Do you want it now or do you want it later? Go ahead. I'll tell you now. So whenever I was younger, my grandparents, my dad's parents, they lived next door to us. But in between us was a lot that my dad kept his cattle on.
And at the so you had the fence row and then right before you hit the road there were these little bitty like evergreen trees that they had planted between the two houses and there was one i don't remember i feel like it was easter that i had left something at their house and so my mom was like just walk over and get it and she gave me a flashlight it was raining outside it's not a very long walk and i think i may have been like seven or
eight i don't know but i am walking i I go over and I get whatever it was that I left. I'm walking on my way back and I start to come up to this one evergreen tree and I can hear this noise and it's going, it's going like. And i'm like i'm like as a child i'm like what is that noise and so i kind of walk a little you know a little bit more forward and then i hear.
And i remember looking at the flashlight thinking are these batteries dying, because it's raining outside i'm like are they getting wet and they're dying no it's my fucking fucking dad he was behind one of those trees to scare me and he used man he got josh one time so good wait so did he end up jumping out yes yeah and scared the shit out of me but he got josh good one time like i thought josh broke his bed he scared josh so bad no
yeah because josh was talking about how he's a he's a big boy he doesn't have to i can walk in my bedroom with my light off And we were all like, OK, yeah, sure. But the way the bed was situated, my dad was on the other side of the bed and Josh walked into that room in the pitch black. And my dad jumped up and scared the ever loving shit out of Josh. And I just remember seeing that whole bed cave in because Josh jumped so high and landed on that bed.
And I just remember being like, fuck, he broke the bed. OK, so, yeah, go back to Sheila. So after the house in Huntsville, she ended up moving out to the country. Bingo did stay at the house to torment the next family. This gave her the creative freedom to come up with a new creature that would lurk in the night. This is how the Wookalar was born. What a name. Dude, she was great at it. I love this. The Wookalar was a creature that would never be seen, but it would chase us
if we went into the woods late at night. Oh. My two standout memories where I was truly terrified was when we had a bonfire at her house. I think it was around fall because I do remember it being cold.
My dad and i believe uncles went into the woods and started creating a ruckus the rest of the adults were naturally in on this so then my aunt was she was like oh my gosh do you do you hear that it's the i think it's the woogle or we need to go hide and so you know i i don't really remember where cody was in this point but i know that i was like oh my god like crying probably probably need to hide. And so then there was one year that Cody had a camping sleepover.
I also remember this sleepover because it was a lot of Cody's friends. Cody always had just a bunch of friends growing up. And so she had this camping sleepover that she had a lot of her friends at.
And I was just kind of the cousin that like we were besties, but she definitely had her own friends at that point and i remember one time like while we were eating i was trying to show off and i feel like there was a movie that i had watched where there was a food fight in, and so i took my potato salad and flung it backwards and it hit the tent and my mom saw oh did della oh i got in i think i got spanked even oh and i
cried yeah she pulled me into the the house and she was like we are not going to do that you are being too big for your britches oh just classic I love it and so I did get to end up staying because she did threaten to take me home but I did get to stay the night but I think again there was a bonfire. Like weenie rose s'mores kind of thing that we had. And my uncle and my uncle Larry and uncle Ron had gone to the woods and started like breaking branches and just creating a big ruckus.
And so then naturally everybody was, they were like, Oh my God, it's the Wook-O-R. And so then I remember like screaming and taking off running straight for the house because I was like, Like, miss me with this because I'm not doing it. I just got the best mental image of like you like legit screaming like a girl. Oh, I absolutely. Yes. Stop laughing. Yeah. I mean, they like my mom and aunt would always drag me to haunted houses, which I would always be terrified.
But Sheila would always sell it as this great experience where she was like, we love scary movies and stuff. Like, do you remember the movie Jeepers Creepers? Yes. That was like one of the first movies that like we really would like we watched him. It was it was honestly kind of terrifying. Really? That's the first one that scared you? I think so. Yeah. I think I it takes a lot to scare me.
And the first scared me the most. The first movie that I think I watched that really scared the shit out of me. I was in high school and it was Stir of Echoes. With Kevin Bacon in it. That's a really good movie. Okay. But yeah, I watched, I grew up on like Chucky and Freddie and my mom tells stories now. She tells stories about how Ashley used to laugh at it. I thought they were funny. Yeah. If that tells you how morbid my fucking brain is. But yeah, I grew, I loved all that stuff.
Yeah. Loved it. I loved a lot of them, but I don't know, man, that one really did scare me. I think between then and then another, the only other one that I really remember scaring me was The Strangers, just because I feel like that's such a realistic. Well, yeah, it's a psychological thing. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. But, you know, any of the like haunting ones, those don't really bother me. What do you mean haunting? Gosh, like paranormal activity. See. Hated those.
They were just fine. Yeah. They were very much like Blair Witch to me. I do remember watching Blair Witch, and the only part of Blair Witch that really scared me. Same. Had nightmares about that one image. Just that one image. Still to this day, it creeps me the fuck out. Yeah. My Aunt Sheila was a legend. She had the best taste in all things horror.
She lost her battle with the cancer when I was in high school, but my family as a whole will always tell stories about her when we watch a scary movie, or if it's around fall or Halloween. Also, I know I have a lot of coworkers that listen to this, so hopefully this also gives you just a different look into who Sheila was. Yeah, the Sheila that we always hear about at work. Yes. So.
The family side of her. Yes. All right, the first urban legend that we're going to talk about that I researched was one that my stepdad actually sent me an article for, and I had really never heard of it. It was new. It kind of tied into your Momo, but it's a completely different thing than Momo is.
Mm-hmm. So, deep in the mountains of the Ozarks that stretch from Missouri to Arkansas lurks a furry creature with horns who has a horrendous scream that sounds like a mixture of a wolf's howl, a hyena's laugh, and a human's scream. In the 1800s, Daniel Boone shot at a mysterious beast after hearing it scream and coming face to face with it. The creature got away unscathed. This is the beginning of the legend of the Ozark Howler. As the years passed, the better the description got.
He has now been described as a black bear with glowing red eyes and thick scraggly fur. This description has often led to sightings being downplayed and as a sighting of a cougar or a black bear.
The only feature that really sets them apart is the scream that comes from the creature unlike most urban legends there isn't just one howler there are multiple oh so there's like in the night a pack of them yes but i don't think that like they've been seen in packs but i think that there just have been instances where there have been multiple sightings in a night but like in different areas where two one couldn't be in in two places at once you know
so the urban legend states that if you gaze into the howler's eyes.
You will be in a trance-like state there are some people who believe that if you even hear the cry of the howler cross paths with it you will soon meet your demise i don't know what kind of noise that was that i just made but i don't like it i sometimes have been finding myself myself i'm actually not even gonna know what kind of embarrassing i'll be like walking around my house and be like but like why do you know what i do have you heard the commercial that
it goes marmar memer no it's it's like a big as some business in columbia and in the background they're like you know when you have a problem you can just call and in the back you can hear like a little cartoon figure go marmar memer oh i don't like that but i love it i'll be walking Walking around the house, I'll be like, mama. All right. Well, OK, glad I'm not the only one. No, man, I think it's a it's a.
Universal experience. Yeah. All right. We're now going to talk about the craze that swept the nation and honestly took Facebook by storm. This was in 2016? Yeah. Gosh, it doesn't feel like that long ago. I know, but it also does at the same time. Yeah. But I feel like it also went quickly. Like, it hit the headlines, and then it was sightings, and then it just died. Yeah, it just died away.
Yeah. The story is straight out of a horror story. we're going to talk about the clown panic of 2016 it all began in the uk on friday september 30th reports stated or reports started pouring in about somebody dressed as a clown who was jumping out of bushes to scare children over the next couple of days other reports of clown incident incidents were made there was an arrest made of a teenager who was dressed as a clown and in possession of I'm a bladed article.
It's the UK, so I'm assuming like maybe a knife, a machete. Oh, wow. The tabloids had got a hold of these stories and the craze began to spread. Morgan Bell was 17 years old and had always feared clowns. One evening, she was faced with that fear and was chased down the street by a clown. All over the UK, more and more clowns began to pop up. This is where parents started spreading the news on Facebook. Naturally, this became a meme.
As this craze began to spread, people truly took advantage of this and started dressing as clowns. A Mimi. Yeah. A Mimi. There were clown sightings in all 50 states of the United States. By the time that this was over, the sightings varied from people dressed as clowns to just standing and staring to them holding weapons to clowns trying to lure people in the woods. Oh, I don't like that. I don't like that at all. Also, like, can you imagine your literal worst fear being by a clown?
I am thinking of Chelsea. She hates clowns. Like, you can't even take a picture and send it to her. If you do, like, the response you'll get back is, I fucking hate you. Right. Like she hates them. So Chelsea, this is probably your worst fear. It absolutely is. Yeah, I feel like if that happened, she would probably have a heart attack and die. That would actually be tragic. I think that's what would happen to her. It's awful. It really is actually terrible. How are they luring people into
the woods? I would come here, little kid. Can you imagine? They have candy for you. Can you imagine going on a walk and just passing this clown and this clown's like, hey, do you want to come see this kitten that I have? Come see what I got in the woods. I have a kitten for you. Would you like a baked good? You're going to say something else? Big something. It's like, where are we going with this? Big balloon? A big balloon?
No, man, I will admit that sometimes, like, especially from Memphis's room, his window faces a streetlight out here. And there's nights where I will still to this day, well, I will I'll be closing his curtains. And I will think, how creepy would that be if there was just a random clown standing out there? Or even just a person. Yeah. The clown makes it a little scarier. But yeah, a random person would also be super creepy.
But a random person staring into your house? Yeah, with this light. Yeah. Yeah. Nope. Nope. Nope. I'm a nope out of that. This led to a widespread panic, people being on high alert, clown hunting parties, and even college campuses banning clown costumes. Because remember, this was around Halloween. Oh, yeah. Thankfully, this was a short-lived phenomenon, but it was scary for those who feared clowns. Yeah, I do remember that being a thing. I mean, I'm not affected by clowns.
They're creepy, but I'm not scared of them. I'm like, get out of my personal space. You're weird. Also, I feel like that was a quick way to get your ass beat, though. Yeah, that was a fuck around and find out moment. Yes. Also, off topic. So maybe Chelsea would just beat the shit out of one of those clowns. I don't know. She's feisty. I was going to say, you're either like, what is it? Oh, my gosh. Flight or fight or flight. Yeah.
You're either fighting or you're fighting. Yeah. Could have gone one of two ways. I don't know. We could have like Gage dress up as a clown and we could see what kind of reaction. No, she would. She would hate me forever. Like, I'm serious. I think I don't even remember what I sent her last time. It was something. It may have been at Halloween because now, you know, the spirit of Halloween, they have the giant. Yes.
Okay. Killer clowns from outer space. Have you ever seen that movie? No. It's a very B-rated scary movie from like the late 80s, early 90s. I feel like it's late 80s. But I loved that movie growing up. But it's very B-rated. But now they make those big clowns off of Killer Clowns from Outer Space as the animatronic things at Halloween. And I think that's the last time I sent her one and she was like, fuck no. Not just no, it was a fuck no.
OK, also unrelated from urban legends. Did you hear that there was a guy in New York City that was going around and punching girls in the faces that were just walking around on their phones? No. Like he was socking these women in faces. So one girl, she has a pretty big following on TikTok. She had immediately made a video after and she was like, I was literally just walking around on my phone.
And she was like all of a sudden this guy punches me in the face i mean she had like a massive goose egg oh my god and so she ended up going to get checked out she didn't have a concussion but she made a police report well then all like four or five other girls were reporting that the same thing happened to them just for being on their phone yeah just because they were on their phone and this guy was just walking around and like he would like
elbow people in the face or like punch Punch him in the face. And naturally in New York, because nobody has any regard for helping anybody else there. Oh, for sure. Nothing was done. The guy, they ended up finding the guy and arresting him. He needs to take some anger management classes. Yeah, he, after like looking at his social media, he's definitely like an incel. Do you know what that is? No. Okay.
The in, there's like this big incel movement, which is these men that feel like they deserve to be wanted sexually by women. And so if a woman, any woman, doesn't matter how hot or how ugly they are, if they do not want them, then like these women are just like scum of the earth. All right. Yeah. It's this huge movement. There are like there have been incel groups on Reddit that have gotten shut down because of just how just like disgusting.
Learn something new every day. Yes. Okay. Moving on to an iconic urban legend. I don't know. Well, I guess I thought that there was more to this story than what I thought that there was. So I think that's where I was kind of like, oh, because there's also a TV show, I think, on Discovery about the Bell Witch or Nat Geo. One of those. I think. OK, so I think there's a lot on the Bell Witch. Oh, it's on History Channel, I think. I thought there was a because there's one living family member.
Yeah. But there's also there's a scary movie based off of it, too, I think. Right. Like American Haunting. I'm going to Google it. There is there's a lot of like ghost, you know, like ghost adventures around them. There might be a living member. And then there's a lot of documentaries about like things that have taken place at that house. Yes. When people visit. Okay. This story can be traced back to. It's called The Bell Witch Haunting. Oh, the TV show? No.
Oh, it's a horror documentary. Yeah. Yeah. What's it on? It's, it says it's on Peacock right now. Oh, okay. I feel like there was also one on my Discovery Plus app that I was watching. I can't remember which. The Mark of the Bell Witch? That one came out in 2020. Yeah, maybe that's what I was thinking of. That one was on Netflix, I think. There's a, there's a lot on it. So I guess if you want to do a deep dive on here, you can go to Peacock or Netflix.
Yeah. Okay, this story can be traced back to 1817. John Bell and his family believed that they were being attacked and taunted for several years by an entity known as the Bell Witch. They resided in Tennessee near the town of Adams. The Bell Witch was initially believed to be a Native American spirit due to one of the Bell Boys having disturbed a Native American grave. Let's be honest, if he did that, he kind of deserved to be haunted.
Leave shit. I think the story was he took a rock or something from it. Yes. Leave it. Yeah. Leave it be. Don't bring shit home with you. Absolutely. Fortunately for the bellboy, he did not conjure up a Native American spirit. Whenever they asked who the entity was, it gave several different names, one of them being Kate, which was the name of the neighbor. She was known to be mainly invisible.
Visible the family did report sightings of strange animals such as a dog with the head of a rabbit and heard strange sounds throughout the night some of the sounds would be described as rats gnawing on the bedpost scratching outside of their windows and rocks being thrown at the house however every time they went to investigate these sounds nothing was there. I think this could definitely cause some mania. Was this also not the one where they heard like something walking on the roof?
I think so. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was just sounds. And then whenever they would go investigate it. There's nothing there. Yes. Which I have that happen now in my house. Great. Never stay in the night here. Yeah. Sorry. It's okay. I think it's haunted. The father, John, and his daughter, Betsy, were the ones who suffered the most from the Bell Witch. Their abuse often included being pinched, having their hair pulled, getting stuck with pins, and even beaten.
But she got it the worst. Yes. The girl got it the worst. John became very ill and his passing was attributed to the paranormal by the state of Tennessee. Mainly, they believed that Kate had poisoned him. So, back it up. What did they declare his death as?
It was being attributed to paranormal. normal attributed to okay yeah but they think that he was poisoned by this witch yeah the bell which is still a huge part of tennessee history and is still taught by schools today yeah i remember seeing i'm still looking up all of them there's a lot of there's it's out there everywhere there's a lot of books and a lot of like documentaries on it but i feel like just like the conjuring house Oh, yeah.
The one. Yeah, that was another movie that it's not like it scared me, but I was very leery on watching it because things that like that that have happened in true, like in real life, even if it's even why are you laughing at me? No, because I agree with you. Even if it's like a big media craze and maybe it didn't really happen and it was like blown completely out of proportion or whatever. I just feel leery watching it because I'm like, man, I'm opening that door.
But I feel like during I had watched a documentary on the Bell Witch that some there had been people there filming on site about something like The Conjuring and people started to get sick. Oh. Oh, because that happened to one of the actresses on The Conjuring. She had some really rare blood disease while she was on set and then it just magically went away whenever she was taken out of that. Oh, gosh. Yeah. I did you ever watch Amityville Horror with?
Yes. Ryan Reynolds. Yeah. That was the best because he was just hot during in that movie. But that whole like that whole case has always just blown my mind. I know it is. Is it, did it really happen? Or was he just crazy? Yeah. Yeah. And was there really a haunting afterwards? Or was it just, you know, because, God, what were their names? You know, the investigators. Really right there on the tip of my tongue. Yeah, they've investigated the Amityville and they did the doll.
Annabelle and Lorraine Warren. Yeah, they did Annabelle. And then they did the one in the UK where that little girl was possessed. Do you remember that one? I think that was the conjuring, too, but that was a real event. Oh, that was a real story. Oh, OK. Yeah. So there was Annabelle, the Perrin family. Yeah. which was The Conjuring, Amityville Horror, Einfield Poltergeist. Where was that one? London. That's the one, I think. I'm pretty sure.
Arnie Johnson, which was somebody accused of killing his landlord. That serves as the inspiration for Conjuring, The Devil Made Me Do It. That one was the last version of The Conjuring.
And that one was also yeah that one was that was another real one that they actually took to court oh really yes and fought that the devil made him do it i'm pretty positive there's the snedker house, that was a tv film that became a part of discovery channel series a haunting, the haunting in connecticut filmed was based off that the smurl family dang they were in a lot of of stuff then and then union cemetery interesting yeah so they were all around maybe we should
do some backstories on the ed and lorraine yeah that would be cool yeah actually yeah that's a good.
Lorraine lorraine yeah that's all i really had for the urban legends i probably could have gone further but i didn't want to take up too much time hey i get it man yeah i was gonna actually talk about something and i don't remember what it was the first thing was the the riley case, oh the riley strain did you see that the family asked for a second autopsy did you see the results of the second autopsy no but he was hold on i haven't yet but he was found without
his pants and without his shoes and without his wallet not even just shoes like they were cowboy boots yep they gone yeah what what what were the so obviously you're still waiting on the toxicology because Because that takes a long time to get a toxicology results. It takes usually like two months ish. You can put a rush on him, but it still takes a while. Yeah. The second autopsy, there was no water in his airway. I fucking told you. Didn't I tell you? Yes.
My whole theory on this was and still is. I immediately thought of this when I saw all of this stuff hit the news was the smiley face murders. Yeah. Not the smiley face killer. the smiley face murders. And it's always been college boys that are...
Said that they are inebriated some of them have not been though when they get the toxicology reports back but they're always found in bodies of water and they a lot of them are ones that know how to swim some of one of them went missing while he was on the phone with his girlfriend like they were at a football game she had come to pick him up and she was trying to get to him and in the middle of their conversation the phone cut off so she was
literally within like two to three minutes of getting to him and the phone cut off and he was just gone she couldn't find him they couldn't find him for days and then they found him in the river and so everybody's trying to make sense of well how the hell did he get from here to there and yeah yeah i just think obviously he kind of seemed like he was inebriated but i don't think it was out of control because even whenever he walked past that officer i didn't quite understand
why he got kicked out of the bar though because Because the one report I read said that he had a drink at the bar and then had started drinking water, but had still gotten kicked out of the bar. But then his fraternity brothers were not allowed to leave with him because the tab was still unpaid. But why would his brother, but he was kicked out. Yeah. So why would you keep eight? Like if there were, say there were nine of
them at the bar, why would you keep eight of them and kick the one out? Right. Why wouldn't you kick eight of them out and leave one to take care of the tabs? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That doesn't make any sense. Yeah. And then, I mean, because also he's a tall guy, so his stride is long. So, I mean, it... I'm just imagining because I think he's a similar height to my little brother. And whenever I was in New York with my little brother and trying to keep up with him. Oh, yeah. It's hard.
I'm like double stepping because his stride is so long. Yeah. So imagine even just five minutes of him getting to go walk somewhere. Yeah. Versus him just sitting. Yeah.
No. I don't know. It's really weird to me. I don't. I will be interested to see, though, if there is any further investigation or if it will will be one of those investigations that just falls flat yeah because you know even it kind of reminds me of the not really like in a sense it kind of reminds me of the Gabby Petito how her parents pushed so hard because like her parents knew that his parents knew something was well and I think Gabby's was also pushed like it was because she was so
prominent on social media yes And she had so many followers. And then when, you know, she wasn't posting things, I think everybody was aware. But I think her parents are now suing his parents for them having knowledge that she was dead. And they were like helping hide him and get harboring. Yeah, basically harboring a fugitive. Yeah. Yeah. Dang. I know. I hope that there are answers. I think that this will end up just being a dead end. I hate that.
I do too. Because what was I thinking about the other day? I was thinking, oh, that's the other thing I was going to talk about. I was thinking about the shooting in Vegas. Do you remember that? It was made to be such a big thing and then all of a sudden one day it was just gone. It just really helped drive the anti-gun propaganda. Yeah. And where is that guy? Also. I don't even. What information did we find out about him? Because we didn't. Yeah. Nothing.
Yeah. Nothing. So that's what I was going to talk about was we got a request. And I think I actually requested Lauren cover this, but we got a request to cover.
Bohemian grove and the person that requested it was like yeah i'm seeing a lot of stuff on tiktok about it so i was like okay i'll get on tiktok and i'm gonna look to see what's out there and i did and it kind of scared me yeah it scared me also because i watched the i think it's called american conspiracy the octopus story or something like that if you watch that yeah because i think I think whenever you typed that out initially in our Snapchat group with Darcy, it said octopussy.
And I thought you were talking about octomom. Remember that lady that had eight kids? That's not what I meant. And so I was like, oh, cool. And a documentary about octomom. No, just kidding. Fucking no. It was the octopus story. Yeah. Or journalist or something like that. But yeah, so I had watched that that day and then started diving into the Bohemian Grove stuff on TikTok and was like, negative.
Nope. Not judging that. And I even told Aaron, I was like, somebody, it would be kind of cool to cover it because it also has a lot to do with the Masonic Lodge. Yeah. And my dad is a part of the Masonic Lodge. And so I was like, you know, maybe I could talk to dad and be like, hey, give me some of this, like, give me some of the secrets.
But is it also is the masonic lodge really what people think it is or is it just like one certain or is your dad gonna get killed off as soon as they release an episode about it yeah or is it just like one certain portion of it is like that like the elite you know what i mean and and the rest of them are not elite like i just wanted to ask those questions but then i was like.
No, I don't. I don't think I'm going to do that because I feel like the government would probably show up at our house and kidnap us. And then people people would find us in the desert dead in like 10 years. And Aaron was like, well, they won't kidnap us. They'd kidnap you. And I was like, no, they protect the whole family. They would erase your name. We would be erased from history. Yeah, absolutely. Ashley who? Ashley Ferguson who? Nope.
So I don't know as I am completely ready to cover that yet. No, I don't blame you. and maybe if we ever get to like joe rogan status maybe then they can't erase him yeah it would be kind of cool though to dive into those groups like the snake society or whatever it's called the masonic lodge like all of the rumors that and scandals that surround absolutely those elite groups that would be kind of cool so yeah yeah sorry i'm not i'm just not No, it's okay.
I am not brave enough to cover that right now. It was so funny because last night I was at the gym and the coach that was coaching last night, I never get the warm and fuzzy acceptance feeling from him. And so there were only four people last night and I was like, this is my time to try to get to know him. To force him to be your friend. Basically, that's how I do it. Yeah, that's what you told me to do too.
Yes. Force these people to be your friend. don't give them another option i knew that he was kind of like a conspiracy theory buff so somehow we got onto the topic of like food and we got onto the topic of veggies that you like to eat and he started talking about how he will eat like dandelion greens and like herbs over like spinach or lettuce or salads because salads are so unhealthy because of all the pesticides oh yeah because of like going back to like the dirty dozen so
then we got onto the topic of raw milk and the propaganda behind raw milk and then we got onto the topic of chemtrails. I have no idea what that is. So chemtrails, you know, as a kid, you would look up in the sky and still to this day, you can see it. You can look up into the sky and you see where planes have flown and you see the jet fuel. Yes. Those are actually called chemtrails. And they actually have heavy metals in them. Okay. That makes sense.
So, yeah, we just went on a whole rabbit hole. So that provided a lot of inspiration for me to deep dive into some of my favorite conspiracy theories. Interesting. So that will be a future episode, but not the next episode I do, because the next episode I do is going to be about the McBee family dynasty. Remember that peacock family that I told you about? Yes. I just want to deep dive into them. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Oh, my gosh. A large farming operation, money laundering. I don't know.
Is there something they've been rated by the FBI before? So like, why were they rated by the FBI? It's kind of like when you watch Ozark. It's like, yeah, when we were watching it, Aaron was like, I'm not going to say that this is inaccurate. Absolutely. This probably really does take place. Yeah. And I was like, really? You think that happens? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. So, yeah, I just kind of want to do a deep dive on them regardless of, you know.
I will. I guess I'll have to maybe put that in my trash TV. I mean, my little brother watched it with me and he he was fully invested. Oh, Lord. All right. We'll give it a go then. That wraps up today's episode. You can find us on Spotify, YouTube, Apple podcast, Amazon Music and Patreon. Don't forget to subscribe. Leave a five star review. Give us a thumbs up on YouTube and hit that notification bell so you can get an alert every time an episode drops. So tap that app.
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