Whine About It: Subconscious Sabotage

when I would read something or see something online. And it worked wonders for me because it honestly goes a layer underneath meditation. And she's just such a sweetheart, and I want to talk more about her Grace App and how you guys can be able to get your hands on it. So let's get Grace on. Hey, Grace, how are you good? How are you I'm doing well. It's great to see you again. Good to see you too. I'm glad to have you back and Wine Down in

our little Wine About It Thursday episodes. So, hypnotherapy has been something you've been working on for how many years? Again? Eleven years? Okay? Can you for those of you that didn't get to hear Grace on our previous episode. Can you just give a little intro into how you got started into hypnotherapy? Definitely, this is the shoot super short version. I used it to quit smoking when I had a really fancy corporate job that was very high stress and

I had no healthy coping mechanisms. After I saw how quickly it worked for me, I quick in one session, even though I totally didn't expect hypnosis to work, I said, why does nobody know about this? Why do people think it's going to be a joke or that it's going to be ineffective when it's the only thing that worked for me. It was relaxing, it was interesting, So then I said, let me test it on something else. Used

it to overcome debilitating fear of public speaking. After ten sessions, I was the lead singer in an all girl rock band. I still can sing like you, Dana, but it was fun and I never would have had that experience otherwise. So then I got a training. Still didn't expect to make this my career. I just wanted to understand the subconscious, started helping people that I loved, and three months into doing it part time, a man who had been paralyzed

by a stroke. In our first session together, broke through his paralysis and moved voluntarily for the first time. So that's when I said, forget it. People are suffering needlessly. Everyone needs to know what this tool actually is. And we've been on a mission to make it mainstream ever since. And the cute story with that is that was actually what your father in law. Yeah, so that's the first time I met the man who would become my father in law. I had been dating his son for one

month when his father was flown home. He was a United Nations peacekeeping officer in Syria, so when I met him, I had only been doing this part time three months. He was paralyzed and the goal of that session was to help him with his depression from being paralyzed. We did not know you could use hypnotherapy to break through paralysis. That was not the goal of the session, but when it happened, I dedicated my life to getting the word

out about it. So, how many clients do you have like a week is or like is it like a regular running therapy kind of office for the hypnotherapy for my team, it is. Yeah. So the way that we've developed It is very unique and very different, and we're very blessed that it worked out this way. It was not intentional, so I realized very early on in order to make hypnosis mainstream, we had to be able to reach far more people than I could as an individual,

so we created an app. We've got about forty thousand subscribers for the app. It's brand new, so that's growing by weeks today, just forty thousand subscribers. Yeah, so good part due to you, Thank you very much. We had a couple of thousand people come over the last time I was on Say the app again. It's the Grace app, So if you search for that in the Apple Store or you can go to get Grace dot com to

find it. There's a free version in a paid and it has hundreds of recordings for every topic you can imagine. Then there's hypnotherapists on our team. They all have graduated from my Hypnotherapy certification school. They graduated at the top of their class. So we now have dozens and dozens of people on our team who provide sessions globally on Zoom, which is amazing. And that's about one hundred and fifty dollars a session, so it's less than the national average,

and then we've got the certification school. Now to work with me costs a million dollars actually, so for I know, my one year weekly program is a million dollars, but it's not like I'm going out and buying flashy cars. With that. We have grown to being the largest service provider in the world for hypnotherapy because the investment that my very few clients make in themselves at that level, we take all that money and put it back into the core business so we can reach hundreds of thousands

of additional people that we couldn't reach. So we've never taken a dollar of outside investment. We're still completely bootstrapped, but we've grown to a two time in five thousand fastest growing company because I've got fortune one hundred CEOs who want to work with me twice a week. Every week. They pay that amount, we put it back into the core business and help hundreds of thousands of additional people.

So at first when you hear it, it's like a million dollars, But insane as it might sound, people at this level with this amount of income will say to me, Grace, it would be horrible for me not to invest in my mindset. At this level, I have every single material thing you could ever want. But if I'm not happy, if I'm not healthy, then I'm not spending this money correctly. And they really love knowing that by investing in themselves to that degree, they are helping that many other people

get the support too. Okay, so like the millionaire, So they spend a million dollars to get hypnotized. Yeah, so they work with me twice a week for an entire year, and then they have eight VIP days with me, which are eight hours each. So people who go to my team are usually like, I'm afraid of flying right, and they'll have a handful of sessions on that or I'm biting my nails or I'm yelling at my children when i don't want to, because that's what was modeled for me.

When my clients come to me, they say, I want to look at every single subconscious limiting belief that I have and rewrite it. So we start from today and we go all the way back to the day that they were born, and we look at every single subconscious high and low that they have ever had. Now, the highs are really interesting because we are constantly looking for validation and four experiences in our life that prove to us that we are worthy and deserving of good things.

But we always we have amnesia about the times that that has already happened, and so we're constantly looking for additional approval, additional proof that we are worthy and deserving of love and joy. But if you go into the subconscious and you mine for those previous experiences, you know, when you were on the championship softball team at eleven, that joy, that, oh my goodness, I was a part of something huge. I am worthy and deserving of respect.

I am worthy and deserving of love, I am capable. Those things live there just beneath the surface. And when you can mine for them and strengthen them and create what we call an anchor, so that you can just press your thumb and pointer finger together at any time and get a rush of those feelings, then you stop looking for external validation because you've already got it anchored within you. So that's what I'm doing with my folks.

We are rewriting all all of the unhelpful scripts, and we were anchoring all of the helpful ones because these folks, they've got thousands of employees and millions of customers, and they know subconscious self sabotage is extremely expensive, and they also want to be happy. So now when I say that I do work with a handful of people for that amount of money, it's super you know, high level, very fancy, and they fund the growth of our business.

That helps all the other folks. But day to day, like just this morning, I gifted one of my good friends, her son, a session, you know, so I'm constantly doing free sessions too. You gifted me a session, and I'm like, oh crap, do I owe you a million dollars now? So you know, let's let's put it this way. Let's say I wanted to put four million dollars into their business, I could charge forty people one hundred thousand, right, or

four people a million. So the fact that I only work with very few people paid means I can gift lots of sessions for free and write the books that help people, and make all the app recordings and train all the students. There wouldn't be time for all that otherwise. Are there any of the big CEOs that you work with that are open about doing hypnotherapy that are on a public base saying like, hey, I do this or

is it pretty private? At this stage of the game, I typically only work with folks who feel comfortable being public, because, again, my goal is to make hypnosis mainstream. Right, there's tons of hypnotherapists out there who just want a busy, private practice themselves. And from that regard, I completely understand why people would want to keep it private, and so definitely go work with those folks or work with the folks

on my team. But if you want to work with me personally, since my missions to make it mainstream, if someone very well known loves it, it can completely transforms their life but doesn't want to tell the world this thing is not what you saw in the movies, but in fact one of the most powerful ways to help you heal, then I'm not the right fit. But I will say I've signed tons of NDAs in my career. It's just I've finally gotten to the point in the

last few years where that's not appealing to me anymore. Sure, so, if you go to my Instagram, all it is actually I barely post anything. I'm just starting to get back into it again. It's just testimonials from my primarily CEO clients. So, for example, Andrew Desza, he founded clear Bank, which became clear Co and was valued at two billion dollars. He's in his thirties and he said, after working with me for a few months, I added one hundred million dollars

of value to the company. So that's a public testimonial right there on my Instagram. I feel like you could also be like a millionaire matchmaker too, like you and Patti Stanger should like yeah, I feel like, all right, listen, let's just like combine two voices here. Totally. It's the subconscious self sabotage that keeps us from finding that perfect relationship,

so it would be a good match. I wonder if, and I know we've kind of touched on this the last time, but is there something that just cannot be solved or fixed through hypnotherapy. There is one contraindication, which is schizophrenia. So what happens when you're in the theta brainwave state, which is where hypnosis takes place, is you're very,

very relaxed. That's it. It's it's so simple. It's when you're relaxed and you feel safe, you have the surplus energy required to make new neural pathways very very quickly. Most people try to change their lives when they're completely stressed out, when they're in fight, flight, freeze, survival mode. And that's the state where we are least adaptive, where we can change the least Yeah, And so when someone has a diagnosis of schizophrenia, there is difficulty in understanding

what is reality and what isn't. And so when you're in THETA, you can be relaxing in your office, relaxing in your home, but also imagining yourself on a beach, and also then two minutes later imagining yourself at five years old healing from something right, And so it can be a little disorienting for someone who doesn't already have a grasp on what physical reality is. For everyone else, there are no contraindications. It's safe in terms of if

there's not anything. If there's anything, it wouldn't work for it. If you don't want the result, it won't work. So if someone comes to me and says, I desperately want to quit smoking, but I don't believe in hypnosis, they will quit smoking with hypnosis because you don't need belief in it. You just relax and make neural pathways faster. That's it. There's no mind control. But if someone says, I believe in hypnosis, my spouse wants me to quit, I'm so sick of them nagging me, but I love smoking.

They're not going to quit. So as long as you want the result, hypnotherapy is going to be able to help. I guess, Okay, that's awesome. But then like, how though it's and that's the use I don't understand because I'm like, yeah, I don't because Okay, you're saying that they have to want it, well, sure, but I feel like we all have weaknesses, right, Like I don't want to I don't know, I'm gonna trying to think, like I don't want to have to have negative thoughts, but I'm probably going to

have a negative thought. So it's like, how then with hypnotherapy, it's like this person probably doesn't want to smoke a cigarette, but probably wants it too. Great, great, great question. Okay, So when it came to my two examples, quitting smoking and overcoming fear of public speaking, the smoking took one session, the public speaking took ten. So at the time that I wanted to quit smoking, I hated it. I thought

it was gross for me, right. I hated the smell, I hated the taste, I hated the cost, I hated every single thing about it. I viewed it for me personally as a weakness of character, and what we believe about one thing in our subconscious, we make to believe about everything. So if I kept saying to myself, I'm going to quit and I didn't, the message I'm sending my subconscious is I don't keep promises to myself, and

that started to show up in other ways. So I was one hundred and ten percent ready to get rid of that. I quit in one session, even though I didn't think hypnosis would work. Now I go to work on public speaking. Now I know hypnosis works, But in order to overcome fear of public speaking, I would have to speak in public, which I did not want to do. So a part of me really wanted it, a part

of me did not want it. So it took a whole whopping ten sessions, which is not very much at all, to rewire a debilitating fear I've had my entire life. So when it comes to thinking thoughts, it's sort of like everyone knows that if you think more positive thoughts, you're going to take actions that reflect those thoughts, which will more than likely move you down the path of where you want to be. But let's say someone goes, I don't want to eat cookies, but cookies are delicious, right,

Those are two different thoughts. So if your subconscious believes, for example, if you were to stop eating cookies, that you would hurt your grandmother's feelings because you bake cookies together at Christmas and she's your favorite person in the entire world. But you're pre diabetic and it's really serious

that you quit. This is going to go on, potentially forever, this battle between the conscious thought if I need to quit, but the subconscious I don't want to hurt my grandmother's feelings. If we go into the subconscious directly, which is what hypnosis allows us to do, we can imagine having a conversation with Grandma and saying, Grandma, it was never the cookies, it was always the time with you. I love you, and not eating cookies has nothing to do with my

love for you. It will not diminish my love for you. And even though I realize you might not understand that because you come from a different culture in a different time, and you might give me a hard time about the cookies. I already pre forgive you for that. I already stick to my decision to not eat them, and I look forward to spending time with you in different ways because

I adore you. Once you have that conversation at the subconscious level, when you come back up, it's not like your willpower has increased and you're going to see cookies, want them, but be strong enough to say no, You're just not going to want them anymore because they don't have this heavy weighted story around them that they connect you to your grandmother. They're just a completely separate thing.

They're not good for this person because the person's pre diabetic, and they can just go back to loving their grandmother. Does that help clarify, Yeah, a little bit. That makes sense.

On the love side of things, though, you can't make anyone not love anybody, right, No, course, it's not eternal thoughtless mind right, we can't wave the wand but what we can do, and what I always recommend, is if you increase your self worth subconsciously past a certain threshold, then the idea of being with anyone who diminishes that to any degree would become something that is impossible, right,

and you see it's so clear on their side. I actually had I had a fellow reach out to me earlier today about one of her ex her ex husband and cheated on her a bunch, and she was like, this is the message that I sent back to me, and it was just it was an awful message, and I go, girl, you got to also look at that and go how grateful and thankful you are to be on the other side of because before, like you would stay with that. And she's like, oh my gosh, you're

so true. She's like, it's so nice to not have to be treated that way and talk to that way. And it's like once you get on the other side of it and you know you're worth more, like you don't you're not going to handle that the ugliness and

the words of people that you shouldn't be with. It's it's it's hard to be in that moment, Like it's hard to see it when you're there, but then when you step outside of it, you're like, I love getting those messages from if I was to get them from excess to be like, oh, it shows that they haven't changed or you know, so it's a nice little like thanks,

thanks for showing me yes. And so much of this is a matter of realizing what we were raised with, what was modeled for us, what we thought was normal interactions between parents or loved ones or acceptable behavior, then growing up getting to the point where it's like, I don't actually think this is right for me or right in general, rewiring our pathways to expect something else, and

then getting comfortable with that. So, you know, the more patience and love we can give ourselves, the faster we get there. For sure, harder we are on ourselves, the longer the road. Let's say you know you're in a conversation with your a parent like a mom or a dad, or even a friend, and something that frustrates you about them, about them? Do you think, because some people say that's a mirror for something that's inside of you that you're frustrated with, do you believe that to be true? I

absolutely do. Yes. Every time I get frustrated by something external, I realize I have more work to do on myself with unconditional love, and people hear my voice on the app and I help them feel so much better that they assume I am this naturally very calm, peaceful person. I loved hypnotherapy because I am a type, a competitive, like I want to win type person who's also an entrepreneur. So over the years I've become a lot more calm.

Over the years, have become a lot more peaceful. But there are still moments where I'm like, this was not done to my exact specifications, and I catch myself and I go, why do I need this to be exactly perfect? What is it within myself that I'm still not embracing unconditionally that I would get even momentarily worked up over something that can be easily modified. And that's one example. Like that's a you know, a document or a landing

page that had an error on it. But when it comes to someone you love who's doing something repeatedly that rubs you the wrong way, it's all inner work. I do believe. It is all a reflection and what a lovely thing that you can reprogram that the minute you get upset about something, you are flooding yourself with self love. That's where I'm I'm just about that. I'd say ninety percent of the time it's immediate. Ten percent of the time I have to really like, Oh, I got go

do my thing now. I got to get into that self love. So how do you get there? What do you do? Is there a piece of hypnotherapy in that that kind of definitely? What do you Yeah? So I will either listen to our app if I've got the time, if I only have two minutes, I close my eyes. I imagine little me, and anyone can do this. I imagine little me at the age of five years old. I get down to eye level, I look into her eyes, and I say, you are perfect. You are perfect when

you make mistakes. You are perfect when you mess up. You are perfect when you're loud, You're perfect when you knock something over. You are perfect all the time. You are perfect right now. And I love you. So. A lot of us who strive for perfection, you know, not everybody, but a lot of folks who strive for perfection got there a lot of the time, did really well a lot of the time, got very close to perfection a

lot of the time. And so the few moments where you don't, it's like this unbelievably crushing experience to realize you're a failure. And when you just imagine your five year old self instead knocking over a glass of milk end up being perfectly fine. It resets everything for me

in two seconds. Yeah, I love those resets. Something else too, I was having a conversation with my boyfriend their day and I was it got just frustrated with the you know, a phone call that I had, and I called them right afterwards and he go, he always said, like, wait ten minutes before you respond to anything, to the email, to the text, to the if you're heated, just wait ten minutes, and them like, because he's like, your response in ten minutes is going to be so different than

if you send it right now. And that's something that I've had to work on, is just to like take a step back and just like sit and wait for the because it's like I'm not my brain's not there, you know. It's like I remember when you did the hypnotherapy on me, and it was just there's there's meditation, and there's hypnotherapy where you're so like meditation, I'm still kind of like there. I'm still kind of like I'm still like I'm still chilling, but like hypotherapy is like

you are under the layer. It's like you can't even move your hands arms feet if you want to, because you take it so like, I don't don't know what the term is. What's that called? Like, Yeah, you're in the theta brainwave state. Yeah, where you're just like so deeply relaxed, but like in a way where I don't know, I wasn't gonna fall asleep, but at the same time I was just like that. I'd try to like tap back into because I'm like, Okay, that was a great

It's such such a great feeling. It's almost like um, like when you're done with their run and you have those like endorphins. There's something like great about that theta beta state that you're in where it's like I'm like okay,

because it's just a great feeling. And so you know, I hope everyone can go to the gray sap and to feel that feeling, because there's something very addicting about that, which is interesting because hypnotherapy supposed to help with non addiction stuff, but it's almost addicting to be in that state. It is because we live in such a state of

hyper awareness, so many of us. We live in the stress state so chronically that when you finally get to this place where there isn't a drop of stress response in your body. You are completely completely relaxed, not just a little bit relaxed, not even like relaxed on vacation, because you're still scrolling on your phone then, right, you're still getting emails. In This is a relaxation that most

people have actually never had on planet Earth before. And of course you want to go back, and the more you go back, the better. It's like if you think about wanting to shoot a bow and arrow into a target, right, if you pull it all the way back as far back as you can, it's going to go further faster, straight into the target. That's like normally being stressed. Going way back here is the most relaxed you can possibly be.

Whereas most people they'll do a little something to try it to relax, but it's like going like this, the arrow just topples over and lands in the grass. Right. You got to go so deep into your relaxation so that when you come out actually are recharged, and you're not just saying, oh I'm recharged. It's like your whole battery has charged. And some people get that relaxed and yeah, they just don't want to move. But like the little

boy I worked with this morning. He went so deep, so fast, but the whole time he's squirming around and scratching his nose, and he still had this amazing experience and he was in theta. So different people experience it physically differently, but the relaxation is the same. Is it something where I should get my daughter to be doing that meditation and stuff too. I would absolutely have her test out the app. Kids love it. My son who's five, there's this section on the app where it's kind of

like choose your own adventure. You get to pick how you want to feel, how long you want it to be, the background noise. He always likes to choose rain, and he likes to choose that it takes place on the beach and he listens to it every night. And my son's school just got it a bunch of iPads with the app on it so kids can come take a twelve minute break when they're overwhelmed. So kids love it. And then if if she finds she's getting all these

benefits from the app, sessions are great for kids. Oh. I love that they only need about twenty minutes. It's just quick, okay, So I mean we all have twenty minutes. So Grace app, Grace, where else can our listeners find you? So Instagram is Grace Smith TV. Actually all social is YouTube, all the different platforms. But yeah, the main thing is if you go to get Grace dot com, you'll find

all my books, You'll find sessions with my team. If you've got a million line around and you want to spend hours beyond hours upon hours with me, there's an application for that. But yeah, and then actually doors to our certification school are closing tonight for this cohort, but we'll open again in a couple of months if people need more. Awesome, Well, Grace, thank you so much for coming on a wine about it. And yeah, Grace App, I'm definitely gonna I need to go back to that.

And you do that apps again. You know the the guided meditations, Well, I guess you would say guided hypnotherapy. Is that like or would you call it meditations? Okay, Um, So I'll definitely go back to do that. And then I want to get Jolia too because I think it would just be a good practice for kids. Like you said, awesome, thank you, Grace, appreciate you all right, thanks Heney, appreciate it. All right back girl,