The Good Fight with Busy Philipps

comes out in September. We're still doing some minor edits to it right now, but we really wanted to release it um now, and especially on our five year wedding anniversary, because you know, when an anniversary comes around, I just feel like this it's just like the perfect time. It was like the perfect time to post about it. Yeah,

it was. And the fact that you know, we're able to share it on our anniversary when this book is about the last five years, as recent as this past January, like, I mean it is, it is recent, even more recent because we talked about Quarantine too, You're right, yeah, so yeah, exactly. So, I mean, you know, it's it's been the last few edits have been very recent, so it's been literally almost

the last five years to date. You know, of our relationship, of our life, our past growing up relationships that we had in the beginning, How why we are the way that we are who we were when we started dating each other and not knowing some of the skeletons in our closet, and um, it's it's exciting because for me, this is the book that I needed five little not

five years ago, but four years ago. And the fact that we wrote a book that hopefully can show people that if you're willing to work together, um, you can not only be a better person, but also a better partner. And I think to like, it's not just a relationship book. So if you're single, if you're divorced, if you're like whatever, whatever you are, if you're a guy, if you're a girl.

I mean, this book is written from both of our spective so you get the guy perspective, you get the girl perspective, and it's really just about things that we've learned along the way to be a better person too. So it's like how to talk to a friend or yeah, absolutely, I mean, it's it's about all kinds of relationships that you have in your life. And that's what you know. One of our things is that we want people to know when when we promote and talk about this book

is you don't have to be in a relationship. You don't have to be dating or or any fact that, like Jenna was saying, you can be single. You can be it doesn't matter what gender, race, creed, color, like, marital status, relationship status, it doesn't matter, even if it's it's complicated on Facebook. Whatever. It is, like, there's something in this book that you can relate to and probably learn to take into your next relationship, whether it's with

a loving relationship, a parent, a friend, anybody. Yeah. I also love how each chapter starts with a fight, not a fight, but it's some not all of them start with the fight, but it's then we go into like how we could have communicated better, or how we could have done it differently, or and then really introspectively looking

at it. No, it's cool though, because it's it kind of gets you excited about each chapter where it's not just we just start off telling you all the answers or because we don't have because we don't have them. It's you know, we take you through these arguments and

these fights. You know that Jan and I had a lot of fun really kind of reminiscing on and bringing back up on how we remember that fight and that argument, um and you know, we go through how we resolved it then how we would now, and you know we laugh at ourselves that how we handle it in the past. I also love how in the book we say a lot we are not experts. Clearly, I don't want to listen to this podcast can know that we are not

experts at anything. But we've done a lot of therapy and we've learned so many tools that we just want to be able to say, hey, this is what has helped, and this is also tools that we need to keep working on. You know, we need to keep working on as individuals and also as you know, each other's lovers. But I just you know, even like when we've been reading it in the edits, it's like, wow, we need

to do better at this. Yeah, I mean we call ourselves out, you know when like Jana was just saying, when we go back and read those edits or even throughout the book, we call ourselves out. And you guys are gonna read things that we haven't shared before. I mean, you guys think we're vulnerable on this podcast, Like we share things that you all haven't heard, that we haven't talked about um up into this book, and it was really important for us that we this book comes directly

from our mouth. Like we didn't get a ghostwriter, we didn't get anyone to help us. It came from Janna and I. It took a lot of work almost we saw amazing editor Sydney, who helped us, no question, to make him professional and make them go and go together. Because I write an exclamation points. So like when I was writing my section, like I would write like okay, so dot dot dot and Mike's like, okay. He every time he'd read my section, he'd be like I love you,

and I'm like, why are you laughing at me? He's like, because you literally write how you talk. And we kept it. We didn't because the ghostwriter would have taken my voice and just like it would have been so cold. And nothing against ghostwriters anything that, but they just it's so important that people are able to, you know, read this for this kind of book, that read this like we are talking to them and we literally are. So when you see Jana's portions like okay, so this is what happened,

and it's it's amazing. But we're so proud of this. I mean, we've worked really, really hard. This has been our baby for the last almost a year to date when we signed with HarperCollins, and we just really really hope y'all are willing to buy it and spend the time reading it. We promise you won't be let down. We're so excited, and maybe we can share a few tidbits along the way and teases, because there's some good

teases in there. Maybe you know what we should do is is reenact some the dialogue of the of an argument. That would be really fun to do. Now, yeah, we should definitely teach some of it just until official on sale, but for right now, you can preorder it. You can go to Jana and Mike dot com and pre order the book. Um, the Good Fight, And we're so excited. Take a break, and then let's recap our five year wedding anniversary. All right, So well, first of all, we

have a great guest on today, Busy Phillips. Fantastically so excited to talk to her. She's awesome, love how she's just everything she stands for him. I'm just really pumped to talk to her. But did you have fun in our five year I did, honey, you know, and it's funny. The morning didn't start out great, right, you know, because we had some emotions around things in the past obviously and we got through them. But which is understandable in

our situation. Mark would say, what emotions? Yeah, yeah, sorry, Mark, you're not here to keep digging. And also you were bumped because you've kind of planned this anniversary because we kind of trade off. And granted this was supposed to supposed to be a together one that we're going to go to Italy four, but those plans got kind of acts. But the morning, you know, you wanted to go do kayaking and everything like that, and you had this all, you know, this outdoor day plan, but it was raining

all day. But how good was it? Just making the most of it and just spend a time together and that's all it's about. Yeah, it was awesome. Um, and you know, emotions of five years, it's it's it's sometimes hard to look back on, right, yeah and go like wow, like there's a we We we managed to get a

lot in the first five years. Yeah, But I feel like in a in a way, it's a really cool And that's why I love like that we announced the book to on the five year anniversary, because it was it's such a silver lining, you know, like, yeah, we've been through stuff, but like we've really worked our butts off to get to where we're at today. Yeah, there's no question. And you know I told this to you on on our anniversary, but the first five years have

not been what I promised. You have not been what we wanted, um because of me ultimately, And I just want you to know that I appreciate your strength and everything in the past five years, and I'm gonna do and we'll be doing everything in my power every single day to make sure that the next five years or so great that you that the first five are just a blur to you, a distant memory. So I love you so much and I appreciate you for sticking this out with me. Well again and thank you. It's very

like terio, um, thank you. You know, it's it's both of us. Though at the end of the day, you know you you thought just as hard as I did, because there's days where I'm you know, there's so many days where I was just battling you and just being angry, and I just you know you you stuck it out too, and every day is you know, we're we're doing this together. And I think we're going to have our good and bad days. And again just like the book where it's just end of the day though, like, um, but yeah,

no it was. It was great and I loved I hope you enjoyed the dinner I made you. I did. It was an amazing It's all about effort, it is, you know, It's all about effort, it really is. But I'm excited for the next five and honestly, I wouldn't I wouldn't change the last five either, because we have two beautiful children out of it, and we've learned a lot, and I'm glad that hopefully all that stuff is out of the way so that five we can be like, oh that was you know, breeze. Yeah. Um, speaking of

we got chickens, We did get chickens. I don't know what's speaking of meant, but we did get chickens because we want to lay some eggs, yea. And before that, well, we got the chickens because originally Janna wanted house mouse because we started seeing some mice around our house and like in the grill and you know, in the backyard, and Janna was like, can we get a house mouse? Like, can we domesticate one. I didn't saying why we couldn't though,

because people have hamsters. But then we started to do some research and people say that mouse, mice, mouseeces, but nieces are really like dirty and they carry diseases. Yeah, they're the worst. We'll have to look it up. Like they're so cute, Yeah, they're They're one I saw. I told you I saw in the backyard. Literally looked like Mickey Mouse, Like these cute little eyes, giant ears, little head. It was adorable, like I imagine Cinderella, Like I want

the house mouse that like I want us. Jason is our guest. But I just thought like maybe we could like potty train it because they're just so cute, Like I wanted to sleep on our little bed, have a little bed for it. And because we couldn't do that, we decided to get chickens instead. But now we have to get rid of them. We'll not get rid of them. We have to take them to our friend's farm. Yeah, so the h o A. We actually though I talked

to the builder. I don't want to get it on that conversation with the molds and everything else, but anyways, we talked to the building and he's like, we'll just hide the chicken coop, and I'm like, we bought really cute chicken coop. But long story short, we have some really good friends that live about a half a mile down the road. They have a beautiful farm with lots of other chickens. So we're gonna we're gonna keep the chickens here until we can, and then we're going to

take them there. And every day Joey is going to go and take care of him, and she's been doing such a good job. She's just like she loves her. Majesty we named him Majesty is hers cars Jason's of course, and then Shadows mine and then I have Hazel Sweet. They're sweet. There are a lot of fun though. We

wish we could keep them here. Eventually we're going to build on land and then we're going to take our chickens back, take them back, but until then, we're gonna store them at our friends, and then we're going to collect the eggs absolutely because that's why we got them, because we eat so many eggs. Anyways, I really want a house mouth, so I'm gonna work on that. But um, get busy, all right, Hey, busy Hey, it's Janna and Mike from the Line Down crew. How are you what?

I'm good? How are you guys? How's how's homeschool? You know what? We stopped because she's yeah. It was our daughter's four, our daughters four, and then our sons eighteen months old. So like we were trying to do what they were teaching us in preschool. We're like, okay, you know ABC all like the alphabet stuff. But then she was just getting She just kept saying the wrong letters, and I was like, but you just said it right two seconds ago, Like so I was losing my mind.

I was like, you know what, you're four, You're fine, You're gonna be fine. Like it fine, Everyone's gonna be fine. That's the realization I also came to. I was like, I'm pretty sure everything's gonna be fine. I do feel for people who have like very young kids, like you guys, like it is sad is a lot. It is, but it's also like it doesn't really change that much though, do you know what I mean? Like it's kind of

like my son has no idea. Yes, I was gonna ask you busy because your kids are eleven and like six O awesome so with those ages and then being older, especially the eleven year old, like Jane was saying, I feel like we've talked about amongst ourselves, we feel like that's actually even more pressure having someone who is conscious of what's going on, who is a little bit more active.

And yeah, yeah, but I have to say, like my daughter, my eleven year old, has been look, this is a very interesting time to even be having kids this last decade,

you know what I mean. And and my daughter has been aware of so many things for so long, like, um, I mean, this is like so dark, but I mean, honestly, like Newton, the school shooting happened when she was old enough to know what that you know, know what it was, So like she's been aware of the intensity and what like the and how scary the world is her entire

really her entire school age life. Um, And so she has a real understanding of this in a way that she also just as like, yeah, the world is kind of terrible, like you know what I mean, I mean, not in a just in a very like yeah, things are bad, things are bad. Cricket, the little one, it has loves the names Bertie and Cricket. It's so cute.

I love it. She's definitely been the one where like this is the first time something has happened where she's been examining the world and seeing it in a different way and trying to wrap her head around what it means. And um, so you know, we have had more conversations with her. She asked me like like one or two weeks in, we were sitting in the kitchen before I started her home school for the day, and um, and she was like, Mom, I have a question. I was like,

of course, babe, what what's up? And she's like, are things bad? And I was like are things bad? What do you mean? And she's like like, uh, with the virus, I feel like things are bad. Are things bad? Like in the world. And I was like yes, okay, So there's where we have to talk. Um, we're very lucky, we're very privileged. Um, you know, we're And she's like, right, because you're an actress and the author and host and

everything else. Yeah, not exactly. I'm like, we're healthy. You know, we have jobs right now, your dad and we're able to provide for you guys, and so like, you know, for all of those reasons, we're you know, very lucky and privileged right now. But yeah, like for a lot of people it can. This is a really tough time and you know, we need to just be really aware

and year out ways to give back. And so this time we've really spent a lot of just you know, our time talking about how we give back and in what ways. And the girls we went through their books and we donated to a local charity that was distributing books to l a USD kids and kids and underserved

communities here. You know, I think it was interesting for my daughters to conceptualize that a lot of kids don't have books in their home, and when they're taking out of school and they're taken and the libraries are all closed, they don't have anything to read for fun, you know, so they don't they those girls, like, we donated boxes and boxes of books, and you know, I'm so excited to partner with Walgreens to get the word out about Red Nose Day, which also raises so much money for

kids in need. Yeah, and Jolie had fun last year too. She got to pick up the noses, Like we went to Walgreens and you know, she got to see which one it was, so like she had a lot of fun doing it too, which is like because remember we did that last year with her think and it was just like it was so nice to be able to be like and then we're also giving back, you know,

like she's having fun but also giving back. And I think that people, especially now kind of they do look for you know, almost like a two for one like

it's and for me with Red Nose Day. The last several years, I've used it with my girls as well because it is a fun way for them to be participatory in giving back and you can like kind of start those conversations with them because I do think that there's something especially in this time that's empowering for everyone, but especially for kids to know that like even though things can feel scary, that um, they're aware, they know that, like things are bad, there are ways that we can

help make things a little bit better for other people. Because hopefully that I da would be that if you were ever in that situation, somebody would do the same for us. And so like that's the that's the part where Cricket, like the little light bulb finally turned on for her. She's six now in first grade, and like you know, for Bertie, it's been a part of her. She's gosh. I mean, she did a backpack drive in first grade for baby to baby like she's she's been

very aware. She did this year, she did a huge thing collecting um like unopened brand new makeup and hair products and beauty products for the LGBTQ Center here in l A for the trans youth, the homeless, trans kids, um And she collected so much stuff from influencers, actresses

and hair and makeup artists. I mean, that's amazing. But also Bertie's got year back too, though, because that letter that she wrote to eat Like was probably and I just have to say, like I remember it was seeing that and being like, oh my gosh, like how strong her daughter is and also like what you've instilled in her.

I just want to say, like, even when I saw that, I had I gave you so much, like so many kudos for that, because there's so many times when I wish I could have said that, but I held back because I'm like the wind side of me and I you told me I got the part, and that it's like so it's but I you know, you do you play your little pretty part and you go back in your little box and then you put the bow on it, and you know, you do for the but it's like, I just was like, I had so much respect for

you when that happened and how you responded, and then what Birdie did on top of it with the letter. I was just like, they're just powerful girls, but in a classy way, and I just really respected that look, even if sometimes you're not classy about it, like, but it was though in a in a classy way. It was.

I think that part of what I what I hoped to instill in my in my daughter, and and what I think that I've come to realize even in this industry and as as women, I think that for too long, too many of us were sort of fed this idea that if you're just like quiet and you stay in your lane, that then you can like continue to exist. And the truth is that's not the truth. Um. I mean, that's what a lot of people would like for women

and girls to do. But uh, you can make noise and you can be heard and um and you cannot be uh penalized for it. Um because you know, especially now, I think with everyone having access to all the information and social media and being able to share things. Um, you know, there's a lot of support out there, so you know, I think it's really empowering to know that that there are places that previously, like you know, in

the enterty in the industry. I don't I don't know if if I would have felt as comfortable being vocal ten years ago, but I just know because of you know, my fan base and my immediacy of being able to get feedback from so you know, social media and the people that follow me and support me, and the brands that I've worked with, and the relationships that I have with with even that side, because that commercial side is like so important in terms of driving the business, you know,

especially television, And I was like, there's no point for me to be quiet about what I view as kind of an injustice and something that you know, was really unexpected for me. And it was I mean, it wasn't like there was no fallout from it other than you know, they all got fired. I mean busy. Is that something by the way they all got fired? But I mean I didn't that I didn't have anything do it? Is

that something? You know? Is that something? Uh you know again, because our our kids are younger, for and under with your eleven year old with Bertie, is that something that you're like making a point to verbally say to her and teach her, or is that something like to speak your mind and kind of be true to yourself. Or is that something she's experiencing more by watching you or is it a mix of both. So that's it's such a great question because I really feel like the the

actions speak so much louder than the words. And um, you know, and I see this. You know I have I have girls, and I have a lot of friends who have girls. Um. Obviously, because I'm my daughter's friends and whatever, I'm a lot, I'm around a lot of mothers and daughters. So let me just say that, UM,

I see this most frequently put into play about body image. UM. And because it's just the most specific thing I can point to write like and and like the most obvious one, UM, where moms will be telling their daughters like, you're beautiful, I mean, you're gorgeous, You're beautiful, And then you're at the birthday pool party and the mom is like, oh, I don't wear bikinis. Are you kidding me? My body

is gross? So it's like okay, So these little girls are looking at the woman that they think is the most beautiful person in the world, and she's saying she won't even get out of her cover up because her body's gross. Well, my body must be gross too. That body is gross, and you know. So that's like where I that clicked for me very very early on, like when Bertie was a baby baby, and I started to

notice that with the moms. And it became because I'm like any woman of my generation, I have my own issues with um, you know, body image ideas that have been perpetrated on me from you know, culturally and pop culture and you know, the patriarchy whatever. But I it just became very aware that I had to even if I didn't feel it, I had to start to live as though I loved this body. This body is amazing. I'm wearing a bikini like I'm in the pool. I don't even It's not a thing I even talk about, Like,

I don't talk about it. It's like it's it is. You know, my husband doesn't talk about his body, you know what I mean. So I have these girls that like, don't I feel like they don't really put too much value on their their bodies. As objects or whatever. But I do see, especially starting now with you know, these preteens that have been around, there are some of these kids that are like very focused on what they're eating and like, no, I can't eat cheese. Uh, you know

it's too fattening. Like I've heard little girls say that, Like you know, they're not they're not reading that on Jolly would not see that because all I do is shove my face with cheese and wine. So if anything, so she's like, I love cheese. I know, she's like the love it, give me the pizza and the cheese. But we know we have to let you go. Where can our listeners, Um, I know Walgreens And then um with with Red Nose Day. Yeah, so this is so incredible.

So I mean, with you know, everything being the way that it is right now, everyone's making adjustments. Walgreens is no exception with Red Nose Day, but we still want people to participate and to donate, and so if you go to walgreens dot com slash Red Nose Day, you can make a donation to the charity. Um and then you get this filter, a digital red nose that you can use and post on social media and Honestly, my kids are having just as much fun with this filter

as they had with the actual red nose. Yeah, because the nose always would fall off anyway, so it's like it can't so this morning we got her. Yeah no, wait, how old your little one? Anyone? Oh, eighteen months? You can't get a notice to stay on the eighteen month old anyway, So this is like actually a better version of it for you. You can get that picture exactly, buzzy. Thank you so much. I love you. I love everything you stand for, and you're just the friend that I

always wanted, So love you you. Um. She was awesome. I love her and it was super ballsy to what she did, just to recap people that don't know with E. E kind of blindsided her with canceling her show and she had just talked to the creator or not the creator, like the head of E and she was like, yeah,

everything's fine, and then they just completely blindsided her. And it's just and I just have so much respect for that because there's been so many times where you know, you think you're safe and then all of a sudden they're like killing off your character. You're like, wait, what, like like a heads up? Would have been nice, and so, you know, to me, I thought it was. Even though she said it was a ballsy move, I think, you know, she had her right to. In my opinion, I think

it was. It was super ballsy. But and she did it, I think in a classy way. With the letter that Bertie wrote just saying you know, hey, that wasn't very nice to my mommy. And so I just, you know, that's something I'm like, Oh, I wonder if Joey would

write a letter for me. I think it's you know, sometimes you need to challenge the you know, challenge big brother a little bit, and so you gotta call people out sometimes when when stuff, especially in that kind of business, has been handled that way for so long, you know for sure. And she's just yeah, she just I don't know, I just love her. And then she's friends with Michelle Williams to and I just adore Michelle Williams. She just

seems like she's a great friend, like she's got your back. Hey. But so before we do emails, um, Tori, did you find something out about a house mouse? So there's not really anything about a house mouse, but there is an article saying if you are thinking about getting a pet mice. Here some things to think about. Um, they have a relatively short lifespans, so you have to explain that to the kids, which could be a little different. How many years do they live, Oh, it's months, that's where he went,

he died. They spread more germs than you know. They carry hanta virus, in salmonella, and up to two human pathogens. That's also my start potty trained. So if they aren't the house trained, then they are not. I know, you really want they're just so cute. Okay, well that's disgusting. Then that's about all right. Well and we can see them from afar. Yeah, they're blowing outside, all right. Let

my father's addiction from Sarah. My father had a sex addiction my whole life, but it was not disclosed to me until I was twenty years old. There was a lot of times when I was growing up where my father's addiction affected my life, but I didn't know why. I feel like if my parents would have been open and honest with us about my father's addiction, then I wouldn't have gone through so much heartache and drama as teenager. When do you all plan on disclosing to your children

about Mike sex addiction. You know, Jane and I have talked about that a little bit. Granted, fortunately we're still some years away from having to worry about it, um, but it would definitely be before you know, the kids are twenty years old, especially nowadays with the Internet and kids being able to navigate that so much sooner than we even give them credit for. You know, who knows how old Joli will be before she googles. She realized that she can google mom and dad, um, she can

also google her name. Found that out the other night. I was just like laying in bed and I was saw an article about like from from Mother's Day and it had my name in it and and also had her name, and so I was just like, oh, that's weird, Like her name is highlighted because usually it's it's not. And I click on it and it's like Julie Raycasson aged four years old, like she has like her own little Wikipedia page, and I was just like, uh yeah, I

was like, I don't like this. I don't like this, and then obviously had like links to like our stuff. So I mean it's but then some of it's cute because she's you know when she was on the carpet with me and for the runway things. So some of those things are cute because it's good memories, but then also it's like, oh crap, like she could easily click on this link to go there. So I mean I would like to her to find out before a friend tells her. Yeah, I think, Um, the age I'm thinking

is maybe ten ish to twelve. Yeah, I was thinking like twelve. My only reason I would like to I mean prolong even later, not twenty, but even later. I don't want to make it a huge sit down on the do you know what I mean? Like who knows where we'll be in twelve years too or when whatever?

In many years, like we could be because it could be like no, no, not yes, but like also like you know what it happens if we're not together, and it's like, well, obviously she knew mom and daddy had issues, you know, if like we're divorced, so it just becomes one of those things like where it's not this big thing, you know, but if we still stay together, it's still

that not this big thing. Like we've been married and like we're great, you know, So it's just this is just something that Daddy went through, and you know, and then it can be like and this is how great we've been able to handle it, or now we're divorced and this is why Daddy and I may be separated. Right. I think it's just as soon as they're at the age of really being able to read and comprehend things,

and their friends are doing the same. So around that six seven grade age range, Um, when you know that's what kids are doing and gossiping this and that, I think it's just like you said, we don't have to make it taboo or this big thing around it. But hey, you know, baby, as as you get older, you might read things about mommy and daddy and especially Daddy, and you know, Daddy's had a sickness that he's dealt with his whole life, and I do things to prevent from

going down that path. I mean, I don't know what the words, what words I'm going to find to say in that moment, but um, it's definitely gonna be sooner rather than later. Like from Bruck, my husband has changed. I am twenty eight and have been married to my husband for four years and we have three beautiful children. I love my husband. I really do. But since he started his new job, he has changed so much. He works with all single guys that sit at home every

night and play video games and drink. My husband has developed a serious drinking problem. And I take care of everything. The kids will drop off, the cleaning bills, etcetera. I finally got to the point where I had to get a separate bank account just from my paycheck to go solely towards bills because he was blowing all of our money. We talked and I told him I would pay all the bills except for his car payment and the electric. But I was woken up at three m last week

to a tow truck repossessing his car. Once we finally got that all straightened out and picked his car up, we got home and had a notice that our electric was going to be shut off. I don't know what to do. Please help, dang. I mean, it seems like Brooks doing what she can and trying to talk to him about it. I mean, you know, one of these situations, it's almost like, you know, men in general, people in general, but men especially can be so prideful at times where

hearing something that that they're doing wrong. It's hard to face that when hearing it from the people closest to you, sometimes you need a third party that's removed from the situation to kind of keep you know, get real with you. So I mean, I mean again, we're big advocates for therapy, So any kind of couples therapy around this or I don't know, maybe a list of consequences. I think it's hard to because the guy is a hanging out with a bunch of single people, and I think it's easier

for guys to kind of morph into that world. Um if that's who they're hanging out with, you know, like they'll start to like, for example, one of our neighbors is hanging out with like a bunch of younger dudes and the wife is like, what are you doing? You know, like why are you writing skateboards? Like this isn't who you are, But it's because that's the people that he's like hanging around. So they start to become something that there maybe not And maybe because I mean, y'all did

get married quite young. You know, you may get married at twenty four, so maybe he feels like he hasn't lived his you know, like what these other guys are living, right now doesn't make any of an excuse for sure, But I would just you know, have a sit down and say, like I try to do therapy would be the first step, because you know you do love them and you know you want it to work for your

kids and for you guys. But I think just over communicating and sitting down with someone that can professionally be like, Okay, you know some things have to change in order for you to feel safe. And you know, if you're doing everything like, you need that extra support and you need that person that you need your husband to help. And that's not crazy for you to ask, That's not crazy for you to think, that's not crazy for you to need.

So just and I think she took a great step with separating the bank accounts and that way she can manage that. And you know the fact that he had to do with the consequence of his car being repode and see there's my here's my debate to that though, because you know, in our relationship, you've always said it's our money, it's our like, we shouldn't have separate accounts.

So I guess, like, where do you then draw the line with this, because she's essentially saying your car, you have to pay for the electric, you have to pay She's just doing it because, you know, the it's been a problem with the money and stuff, where she's just kind of protecting, you know, her ability to keep things on for the kids, the bills and all of that because he was spending so much money on drinking and whatever else he was doing that she's not trying to

She didn't want to separate it. She had to out of a consequence because he was blowing that kind of money that could significantly damage you know, what they're trying to build. Yeah, for sure, go to therapy. It would be the biggest advice that I would probably say. But um, all right, guys, good show, busy was great. Um, and I'm excited to wind down with you guys next week. See you next week.