She Picked a Good One with Caelynn Bell

Wind down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio Podcast.

You guys, I have something that I have been meaning to talk to you guys about, and I keep putting on.

My This is quick and makes me nervous every time.

What Kat and I are always like, I watch our physicians change our body language. No, but it's something that's really bothered me. Great shift again.

Can we start with this and have to do with us?

Yeai?

Oh no, I did your dramatic pause just as I go home, now okay cool?

Then go okay, so.

Shoot, so okay, I have to remember exactly what it was or y'all. Y'all know that I like when I'm on a plane, I like to meet the person next to me, right, That's how you met Sarah. That's how I met Sarah Gretzky, who's still a very dear friend.

She's funny.

I text her the other day and I said, hey, girl, when you come in to visit. She's like, how did you have two kids? The old baby drowning that's the worst. It's like you're drowning and babies and.

It is hard, especially i's one to two, especially if there's two. That's really all this yeah.

I keep telling her we need she needs to come on because she's just like I just got It's just I can't certain personality types too.

I love to watch Get Two Kids.

She's drown and I love watching just because I'm like, I don't think because I had both kids when like you know, she was still like not engaged yet. It's it's hilarious to now watch because I'm like, oh, you're doing so good friend.

Yeah you needed this. I love you.

Okay, so you're But anyways, but that's my main western. I love meeting people on planes. I love talking to people. Maybe it kind of helps the anxiety a little bit. So Alan and I were flying back from where we've I don't remember. We didn't have the kids, it was just us. I was pregnant. I'm just making sure I'm mullle points right.

Okay.

So we're on the plane. Where are we coming from?

God?

I hate that.

But we were rushing to get to the plane and and I see this really pretty girl at the gate, and I'm thinking she kind of looked like a publicist. Maybe she We're flying back from somewhere. It was like on East Coast somewhere. We were flying back to Nashville. Well, she ends up being my window seat, so I'm in the middle, Allan's in the aisle, and I was just like, you're just so pretty. Sorry if like I was staring

Here's my thing.

We got so deep in the two hour flight that we had or whatever that I mean, like we have such similar pass that it was like scary. I mean we were both like teary at Alan's like and over like these weirdos.

I'm like, she's my new friend, you know what I mean.

I'm like wanting to like, I'm like, oh my gosh, I love Pamelin. Like we're all just like talking like the girls. And then I was like, DM me so I can, we can stay in touch because like, she's no joke like someone. I was like, she's going to be a Sarah, you know, like a friend. And so when we got off the plane, she was.

Like I DMD.

I was like, oh yeah, I'm like, I'm going to go love. So I go to my DMS. I can't find her DM okay, And I went back. I'm like, there's literally no DM. She said she DMed me whatever. And to this day, I don't remember her name, and I keep thinking she probably thinks I'm a freaking bitch because I didn't respond to her. But I'm like I genuinely wanted to be friends with her, Like I genuinely was like DM because I wanted to talk to her,

Well?

Does it show that? Yeah? Also, isn't there so therese Missed connections is like a thing? Do you remember that? What is that? Missed connections? Was this?

Like I think it was for like dating, but it was like you met at an airport or you met it in an airport bar, and then later you're like, shit, I wish I would have gotten their number, and there was like a site maybe for this where you could.

Go say like, well, I'm not trying to date her.

Well, I.

Just feel bad, but maybe she was.

Like that's what I'm saying, like maybe we need like a miss connection moment on Instagram where you're.

Like, okay, girl, maybe she listened.

If she doesn't listen, she does not remember your name, email me at the.

Email on Instagram because she didn't get your DM.

I just feel bad because I don't want anyone to think that any connection was a and it's it's bothered me since that moment. And that was when I was pregnant with Jace. I mean Roman, I did not know Alan Jas. Okay, that's very clear before my boy, here's clickbait. So so yeah, I just I don't ever like someone thinking like, oh she was that was fake or something, or because I was like, she's a real moment in connection that I had with this person. I don't want

I don't. Yeah, that's unfortunate, and she listens.

So it really bothered me because I'm like, can you do an Instagram story? I think that's more effective. Maybe we need to do one today. It was well you drag, yeah you'll know it, you will, yeah, I will. I know exactly what she looks like. Okay, she was so sweet, forties like single mom, like I loved her.

Yeah she's yeah. I think we were going to go get her.

Do you know that feeling though, when you just you don't want someone to walk away going Oh, I guess because when you share something, you share meaningful conversations like you don't want Well, then here's here's the thing. What if she really didn't DM me, maybe it was fake on her side, and.

Then she really didn't want to be your friend? She said, she you, but she didn't like you the whole time.

I know you need to write the flip side. I thought, I really need to. She was like, I totally DM you. Nice to meet you didn't too much. She was like, that was in l a NonStop. She cried.

I cried, did she okay? She it was like listening to you for both of us.

Okay, it's fine, and then I was like, you fine, love, this is my like like, I was like, I promise it's out there.

Alan's like, can I have another snack bag? I'm excited.

I really need to know how this ends up now, which it is.

Speaking of follow up, I'd like to move on to the next subject, which is I am getting a massive amount of d ms about your X on your skin.

I was like, which one was?

I should have paused dramatically, damn it. I've got a lot to learn from your kramer about your ex. I respect my fiance and we don't talk about excess great stuff you brought to you.

By God.

I really need I need inquiry. Minds, really need to know because what you've done is you've set the world on fire. People have been in their desks and in their cars doing XES on their They're like, so, really, hey, Christ and you might be a best shot at knowing what's going on with Jana and the X.

So I'm on his skin.

So I when got my blood, I got my blood work back. I went to your holistic doctor named Nate.

Yeah.

He I'm pretty sure he regrets now meeting me because I texted him at eleven o'clock at night because I thought I was gonna have to go to the er because he's been making me do these peptide injections in my ass and the copper was stinging so bad. I mean, this is like an hour and I'm like, I'm in law, it does get that shit pain. Like it was an hour plus. So I texted him. I was like, hey, Nate, I am so sorry it's so late. But I also know he does own kids, so I was like, you know he can't.

He's probably well any texts anyway, Yeah, like to you know, set up and see.

Yeah, that's well, just so we're clear, it's still there, see and just so we're there. My husband's also a patient and there's a certain artist like personality that is a little copy paste, so he knows what he's into. Okay, Well, I was like, do I need to go to the emergency room because I'm looking on Google right now and I might have hit my sadic nerve, which means that I'm like, because I'm doing these own injections in my butt right yeah, I'm like and Google and now I'm googling.

So he's like, you're fine.

The copper stings a little bit longer, but I'm gonna, you know, whatever with the dosage. So he has me on like a million different So my testosterone was a three, which is really low. Uh, my thyroid is not great. He doesn't like how my thyroid is.

I don't know.

He said all these like weird things, and I was just like, can you please translate this in English to me? So he's got me on thyroid medicine, testosterone, He's got me on peptides obviously, he's got me on vitamin D. I have this mute gene mutation called MTHR that I've known about since I did IVF. He's like, interesting that you're not on a supplement for that, because that's something you should take for the rest of your life. It but he's thinking I might have a nerve problem. I

I go, I just got the shower. It was a five minute shower.

Wasn't even like super hot, and I have read like splatches of like all over me. He's like, you're definitely having a huge, a huge immune reaction. He's like, we're going to figure it out. Don't worry, you'll be okay. So like he also like calms me too. Yeah, So he's great.

I love him. Well, I'm not going feathers.

He's great. So I got to go back to see him. I'm waiting on my He also said too, he's like, listen, after pregnancy, He's like, there's something too with food or something that your body is like, I don't like this anymore. Maybe Roman took the last of it and now you're having a reaction to it. So he's like, we're going to figure it out. He's like, but you might now

I promise, y'all, I will. Is it better? No, okay, it's not.

Having said that, I found a good shampoo that's really helping to stop the itch. But I know that if I go like two or three days and I don't use the shampoo, it's like back to the Okay, back to the itch.

Yeah. I do think it is some sort of like inflammatory, there's something.

I mean, I just get these random like yeah, random things, and that the head thing was really weird. My site kind of goes foggy. It's very strange.

I will say this.

I think we sometimes, I think a society kind of like toss postpartum moms into this, like once you've hit a certain point, like you're just back on track kind of feeling.

Yeah. And I think it's regular.

Doctors who have made me feel crazy. They're like, your hormones are fine, You've had now two periods, You're good. And I'm like, then why is Nate saying that? Hormonally like I'm off and I was.

Lo lo to like a four.

And they never dig into like you do typical blood work, but they never dig deeper unless there's like a reason too, And that's why I love Nate. There wasn't really a reason for me too, but I wanted to like dig deeper and see what because I never go, which you know, that's just you know, how I guess how medicine is.

But that's yeah, and a lot of I will say to any postparton moms, A lot of postpartum moms get immune immune diseases afterwards too, So he's like, so he's like, those are boxes too that were still like I came back to malnourished. He's like, we've got to get you like I did the food sensitivity. He's actually changed Preston's life too, So yeah, he's determined to stared by Integrative Health goes. But serious though, if you guys are in

I just need to know. I think that's what bothers me the most. Sure what is it? And at the point too, that's annoying.

Yeah, But let's got another girl on who's so fun and I love her. And her name is Kaylin and she was on the Bachelor and then she married Dean. She's got a new podcast out with Jared and Dean. It's called Suckers. Let's get Kaylin on.

Hey girl, Hey, how are you? I'm good, How are you good?

Good to see you?

Good to see you too? You just got married? Ye?

The newly went glow. It's my favorite. I have to say.

I was when every time, you know, I would like see you as an Instagram I'm like, is he going to propose to her? Yet? Like what is going on? I'm like this is taking forever. I'm like I'm getting as annoyed as watching Tanya rads thing. And then Like'm like, these girls need to get freaking engage, like they're ready.

You get so into it, I really do.

When are they going to because I know they you know, at least I knew like Tanya was like ready, you know, so I'm like, were you kind of like it was like, how many five years?

Yeah, we're coming up on five years. So yeah, he really took his time, but yeah, I was ready. I was ready, like because I'm from the South, and I was like I could, I could be married tomorrow and be ready for kids. But now that we're married, I'm like, oh, I'll wait on the kids.

Ah yeah, right, like us forty year old moms. I'll tell you, Yeah, I need you to wait not too long, because I got to tell you the recovery once you hit forty it's a little different.

How old are you twenty eight?

Oh yeah, twenty times being married?

Yeah, thirty sounds good. I guess. I don't know.

I'm just scared. Thirty two.

So the van, So when he said like he wanted to live in a van, that didn't scare you off or was that part of your idea?

Okay?

Yeah, I mean I had a crush on him for it's probably been like eight years now, so I was just so in love with him upon meeting him, and I was like, yeah, I'll do like whatever weird stuff you want to do.

But way, yeah, I don't know why.

That's so cute. What was it about Dean? I mean, because you know, obviously I met him. He's such a he's a handsome guy, he's so he's so nice, he's so sweet. But what was it that were like, he's my guy?

It's it's kind of those exact things I I just saw, like how he was with people and the way that he treats people. He can walk into a room and make everyone feel so comfortable, and like, now I rely on him so heavily, which is terrible. Like if he's not with me, I'm very introverted, I'm very shy, and he's just like I just love the way he puts people at ease and makes people feel so cared for.

Okay, Now the flip side of that, what is one thing where you're like, this is gonna drive me crazy now as you know for years as your wife, or what is the one thing they're like, he doesn't he doesn't communicate well, Or what's the thing that's is a little bit of a tough point in it.

Funny enough, he brought this up yesterday on a podcast. It's pretty gross and pretty embarrassing. So he likes to pick his nose in public and it grosses me. I'm like this, we learned this as kids.

We don't do this, like for you.

I'm like what, and he tells me he's like, well, whatever, He's come up with a million reasons. He's like, I produced more bookers than the most most people, I don't know whatever. And I talked to my therapist about it, and I was like, I know this is but like it's actually caused a fight between us, and she took his side and was like, you envy the part of him that is like care free and still a kid.

I will say this, so I was I'm not gonna say which couple it is, but there was a couple that was talking to me and my fiance and they were saying how they fart in front of each other, and I'm like, we don't fart in front of each other because and we had the discussion at the end of the night, just Alan and I and he goes. I just think there's a piece of the relationship that

Yeah, totally does bother me.

It doesn't make me want to just like have sex with the I still think there has to be some sort of like emotional and not emotional, but some kind of like sexiness there and intrigue.

And I don't know for us at least.

That's how I feel too, with the farting, especially because he will just let it loose. And then after we got married, he was like, I think I want to stop farting in front of you.

Well it's like it it's like because you want I still want to date him, you know what I mean, And I want him to date me, and I don't want just to think that, like, you know, farting. I don't know, it's just it's like it's I wouldn't do that on a date with someone that I want to impress. Not that I need to impress my fancy, nor is he impressed me, but it's still that like well, first of all, the word in itself makes me cringe. So I've just been in a state of like constant tension

Guys, just let it go.

I mean we I mean not all the time, but yeah, but it doesn't bother me if I said it bothered me.

Then I don't know, it wouldn't like it just doesn't bother me.

It's not it's not a bother It's like it doesn't bother me either, Yeah, it bother me. It was just it's more of like a it's just I don't know, like it's not sexy. Yeah, it's like I want to date each other still, like in that sense, it doesn't. But okay, So picking the nose is like you guys got into a fight because you're like, I don't want you to pick your nose in front of you.

It was really a fight. And I was like, this is insane because maybe that's the whole bigger picture here. He's he's willing to compromise on a lot, but he wasn't willing to compromise here. And I was like, how is it just like a non negotiable. It's like I'm picking my nose whenever I have anything going on up there.

I'm like, and then You're like, I'm having this fight right now about picking your nose, like in the middle of it, and go are we really having a fight about this?

Yes? I was like, are we okay? This is what aout?

Well I do when it's ingrained in you too, Like raise Southern is a thing for sure that you know, there's like what is proper and what is not, and then pageants take that up another level and then you've got sweet Deane just digging for gold in the corner. It feels like it just all doesn't align for your little world, you know.

Yeah, That's something I've been struggling with too, is like you know, I've got friends and I look at their marriages and I don't look at like one of my good friends Jess, I don't look at her husband and think that's a reflection of her. And that's something with like the pageant my uptightness that I'm working on, where I feel like if he does something embarrassing, it's a reflection of me, and that's kind of what can cause arguments and I'm like, Okay, he can be. You know,

It's not it's not.

As I don't know.

That's hard.

That's a huge one for me, Like we will still sixteen years in, I will get mad at.

Somebody say sixty nine like now.

And still really works.

Yeah, he does something that like I'm embarrassed by or that I don't think or I know bother someone like it will like it will cause a fight, and I'm like, oh yeah, like I know specifically things that bother you about my husband and if I will be like, don't do it, he.

Doesn't do it around me anymore.

She knows.

Can we know? He does?

Like a thing where and so and it makes me like he makes his snot thing in his nose and it's like like to swallow, like you know what I mean.

But also that gives me such anxiety. But it shouldn't.

It should not.

Annoys her, but it just it drives me crazy. And he's like, thanks for controlling what I do around other people. And finally I was like, you know what you do you I don't. I don't care, like I'm trying to be better at that, but it's hard. It's you think it reflects you.

Yes, that's his reaction too. He's like, why do you want to control me or change me? And I'm like, oh, I just I don't know.

I would just like to bring me a little tell me then.

So this personality type is interesting because I don't know much about you before I got to be introduced to you on a bio and you're precious and amazing and young and beautiful, but so doing reality TV is quite the opposite of the way you grew up and kind of like your path until the Bachelor.

Yeah, yeah, it's so weird.

How does that mix for you? I'm interested to know.

And are you just watching some of these girls on this cast like somebody needs to call their mother?

Oh yeah, and people probably watched I mean definitely watched me. And it's thought the same thing I think with pageants and like the way that I was, I just felt this need to be perfect all the time. I had this obsession with and I was not even close to being perfect,

I love it you.

I watched that season and I was just like, a she's a doll, Like.

I love her.

Yeah, And what you did is you just went out and you were a person. So I just wanted to say that out loud, like that's all you did. You just were person. I know that's hard for your sweet, prim improper brain, but you just went out and did what we all do, and so good for you.

That's exciting.

That makes me feel better. Thank you. Being with Dean too, it really like I kind of let loose a little bit on the show and then being with him, he was like, why are you so obsessed with this perfection thing? Like it's dumb, nobody's perfect, nobody judges you, and so like, slowly over the past five years, I've been able to just kind of like come into my own a little bit more.

Yeah, and he's helped you with that, So I think that's really that's really sweet. Where was Dean raised?

What? What do we know about Dean is hey Colorado?

Yeah, so we just moved back to his hometown Colorado. Okay, yeah, yeah, grew up like right outside of Aspens. So we just moved there two weeks ago, back to his hometown.

Not in a van, not in the van. Thank good for you, woll that's exciting. What is y'all's fighting communication styles? Like what do you guys do when you guys are talking in a big fight about picking noses?

Like how do you guys? How do you guys fight your fighting.

Fight and.

Are you slamming doors?

Are?

Like?

Is one a slammer?

Is one? Like? I don't want to talk right now, but I want to talk, like what is what is y'all like fighting love style?

So I am very like I have to think about things before I can like fight them out, and he wants to just get to the bottom of it immediately. He's really good with words, really good at talking his way out of things, and I'm just very emotional, so I know I need a second. But if we are fighting in the moment, he's going to win because I just like can't wrap my head around things.

Well, he has his points already in order, yes.

And I'm like, I just need to think. And typically like we're pretty good. We don't like yell or scream. If someone raises a voice, we're like, okay, it's getting the little I don't know. It's like fights between us aren't crazy by any means. But then what really pisses me off is after we have an argument, he be good for you.

Girl, pisses you off? See it again, Len, that's my girl?

Yeah, come grab a drink there you go, crack the crown off, sister.

He pisses you off, going so Dean.

Well, after we get into an argument, no matter like how big or small, he shuts down and ices me out for like oh how long it'll last like two to three days, four days, five days, And I'm like freaking talk to me, like this is bullsh that, like I need to communicate with you.

I sing as like one of my like I got iced before and when I was dating someone, and that I don't like that feeling because I'm I got the abandonment stuff too, so I'm like they're leaving their you know, and then there's just I don't like that, like just talk to me, you know, like that's where we always did. And I don't know something that you can, but I learned from the therapists that you can use. But so you have to set a time when you're going to

Shoot no, but they don't come back around. Yeah it always did, so yeah, it does.

Biggest misconception that people have of you because you're very honest about you know, the pageant life and everything. But what is your from everything that you've gone through and been in the public ie with Dean and yourself on the show. What is the biggest misconception about you?

I think that I view myself from the show as just being a bitch and like, oh I do I think like, but I do think because I'm shy, because I'm introverted, and because I internalize a lot of things and just need to be alone Like I did that in pageants. I just had like I had to have my headphones and I had to just be in my own head, which didn't end up working out for me. But I think because I am those things, people just think that I'm a bitch.

Right, because you're not the like hey or yeah.

I'm really good, like one on one or two on one, but I'm not good in big groups, like I like to watch people and take in information. But and that definitely can come across in a bad way.

Were you're doing great on one on three?

Oh?

Thanks, I feel like you're doing a great job. Amazing. Is that hard for a dean?

Because when when you go to that place, does he feel like then he has to kind of defend you and maybe be more extroverted because or be like, oh, she's you know, like make I don't know, I make excuses, but that would then piss me off to be like I just am quiet, you know what I mean. I don't like big groups, or you know, like why are I'm tarting to defend? Does that ever go there?

Yeah, he's he's really good about it, and he knows. But we're both we both love alone time. That's how we recharge. So he has to like go even harder when I'm when I'm like that and when I'm unfamiliar with people. So then he comes home and he's so drained and can't talk, and I'm like ready and bubbly, and I'm like, what do you mean? You have no energy? And it's because he has to put on even harder.

Hm.

That makes sense.

That's an interesting dynamic considering how public everything is for both of you.

Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, it is, it is.

And it's like COVID, I feel like has changed both of us so much. With we're even more introverted, we love alone time even more, and it's it's hard. I don't know. I feel like I'm such a different person from you know, twenty nineteen Kalin to now twenty twenty four.

Same and I'm not twenty eight.

The other day Alan was gone for five days and I was like, baby, I missed you so much five days. And Cain's like that had been my dream.

Literally, what you're saying is like me to a tea alone, please?

You want to talk to Ale in a room?

Absolutely not, which then you get categorized as slightly more.

People think I'm a bitch too. I mean, I hear you.

I mean, but it's like you just kind of shut down and it kind of becomes like self preservation, you know, and it's like, I mean, I hear you. I'm the same way, but I've just gotten to a fact a point where I'm just like people are going to think what they think and if they're talking to me one on one, I'm going to have a conversation. It's not like I'm gonna but I just might not seek everyone out in a room I might need to.

I definitely have that shut down to where it's like I've had enough. I've had too many people. And my best friends at least know it. They're like, oh, Caitlin's gone, and I'm like, yeah, I just I can't do it.

That's a really appreciating special thing to know about yourself, though, as young as you are, I think, because I think it took me people pleasing well into mid thirties before I realize, like, I just don't do well with that and I need a minute.

So good for you. It's trying to make up for that.

Yeah, if it's like you, you feel like you have to kind of like make up for that the people pleasing part of it, because I had that too, even with friends. Even with friends, it's like I still think sometimes people, you know, I've just now gotten to a point where it's like, you know what, Like I can say, no, I just want to be home tonight. Yeah, I don't have to have a reason.

I don't think my defaults. I did that right, a real part. But I think a lot of that's hard for a.

Lot of people, you know, and I think that that's but that's part of my figuring out. I'm almost forty, and you know what, It's like, this is what I need to like be okay, and that's part of my self, love and myself, and so I just I have to preserve that and I have to do that for myself.

Where's the adjustment moving now? So you live in Colorado?

Now, yes, okay, that's a big adjustment, just if you came from anywhere. Colorado is like its own thing, right right? Are you loving it? I'm a scale from one to ten.

Oh yeah, like eleven. I love it so much. Yeah, we were Dean was in LA for about ten years. I was in LA for five to six years, and then we were in maybe less than that, I don't know, La, than Vegas. And we moved from Vegas to Colorado. And Vegas was like because we weren't quite ready to get rid of La just yet and let go of our friends and the life there. So Vegas was easy because it's like a thirty minute flight, four hour drive. And once we moved there, We're like, oh, we don't actually

Yeah, that's like opposite day actually, Yeah, Vegas and Colorado. I mean you really were like, you know what, actually just flip it and reverse it.

Yeah, I actually don't like warmth. But no, it's it's been really good.

So before we talk about the podcast, I want to go back to the very beginning of when you were on Colton's season and I remember, so I did a movie with Cassie. She had like a little day player role in the last movie that I was in, and I was just like, I gotta ask you because if I'm on that show. And again, I love Colton. I think he's great, and I'm so happy that he's living in the life that like you know that he wants to be living in who he is and being you know,

I guess.

I don't think I did. Like a lot of people were asking me that and trying to be like, you know, there were thirty women on the show who you know, I don't. I don't know, and I just like, honestly forget that. I was on the show so much that it never really registers. And he was with Cassie. Cassie and I had such a close friendship, so I was more concerned of like her well being sure.

Yeah, yeah, that makes sense, all right.

Podcast, So you are doing a podcast with Ashley Ey's hubby Jared, and then you and Dean. So that's gotta be fun, right.

Yeah, it's fun. It presents its own challenges, but it's fun.

Challenges which ones go for it? What about? What is bullshit? Say it? Kaylin?

So the guys just like to real about sports and it's just so I'm just over it, like ramble for like thirty minutes. And then if Deane and I get into an argument, like a little tiff, you know something, we woke up, we're cranky, said the wrong thing, and then we have to like put on this front, which which happens in public too, like if there's someone who watched The Bachelor and they're like, oh, I love you guys, and we just happened to be in this weird space.

There was nothing worse than doing in my podcast with my ex husband because we obviously we fought all the damn time.

Yeah, it was a good fight. It was a good fight. But Amazon someone posted their day about it. I'm like, let me, let me spoil it for you. Let me of that book. It is not a limited serious.

But it was like it was so hard for us to show up, and it was awful for the producer because I was just like that, like it to work with your person when you're fighting is a really tough place to be in.

So I definitely empathize with with that.

Oh it's fine. I mean only once it was really bad because I don't even remember what we were fighting about. But he picked his butt. Yeah, like I don't know what it was. I did show appreciation or whatever, and.

But you need to come here. What are you doing on that? But I love it guys.

I will say this one thing really fast. But the guys really want to be appreciated for the things. And I'm like, he's like I have a dishwasher. I'm like, oh, didn't you.

I was like, well, Dad did the luncher this, X Y and Z.

I was like, guys, I was like Joeli and jays Alan, it is amazing, abody, thank you.

It's incredible how much validation is needed.

So we're doing laps like literally, I'm like, well you did that, I produced and gave birth to a whole human and you're still on silverware. Yeah, but I make sure every time I was like, thanks baby for doing the dishes, but a.

Little bit.

But that's that's the thing, right there, Guys. Really, that's like what they need. They need to like really be like thank you so much and like the appreciation, yes, but go ahead. So you didn't say thank you for something, appreciation whatever.

It was. It was a fight and he like got in late and we were arguing. I was like, okay, sorry I didn't say thank you. And then the next morning we wake up, he's still upset and we do the podcast and we actually this is only one time it happened, but we had to close the podcast. Like I felt so bad for our producers, Like just I started crying.

It's not their first time. Trust they've been with me, I.

Promised.

They're like, oh, this is only like at a level one, totally fine.

Trust I was mortified, and nobody brought it up, like Jared never said a word producers.

I was like, oh, sorry, it's life though.

That's the thing, Like it's to be on a platform, a public platform to do you know, it's it's it's just life.

A lot of people.

I was watching the Kardashians, but Chloe was just like, people make mistakes all the time. Y'alls are just on or the fights that people have, fights all the time. It's just y'alls are on a platform and then in public and you have to do things like this. It's hard, you know, but I think it's that's why therapy is great, to be able to go and have that space and

Own at home, but she can head down.

I'm all in for your sweet nose picking because you should work on it should be.

I mean, you guys really need to dig deep. No pun intended. I didn't mean, Chris, We really do though. I mean there's a real opportunity to be in this there and it could help you too. Oh yeah, this is the other tissue? Would you feel different? Oh, I've tried.

I've tried. I was like, do you know that tissues?

Here's a hanky. I mean, my southern best her to come to Nashville the next time we come in Nashville.

It's just please, that would be great. What else can listeners listen to on Tuckers.

Yeah, so we just, you know, rebranded, and we're all talking about things that we're passionate about. The three of us come together, but I'm talking about pop culture books, things that I'm loving currently. Dean is obviously really great at everything travel related, so he's just recapping his trips and how to travel in an affordable way, and Jared is talking about being a dad. So it's it's fun that we all have our little mini podcast within it.

I love that so much. Right, you're a sweetheart. Glad we got to chat. And yeah, whenever you're in Nashville, just give a little d M.

We're here. Oh we need to go to Aspen when Yeah, we'll be there on the.

All right, you're the best girl. Thank you so much. Appreciate you, guys. By she's a doll like precious. I love her. She's so so isn't being grateful or whatever?

I was like, Okay, I said, sorry, whatever, Oh, it's too good.

I would I would be annoyed if nose picking. Oh yeah, no, I went like that.

I'm trying to think there wasn't. I had an ex with a weird thing, and I think it's good that I don't remember it anymore, but I remember that there was something always that. I was like, if he does that one more time?

What are you thinking about, Jane?

You're thinking about it something I'm thinking about a group text right now that's between me, Julie and Pam because we I can't say it.

I'm here, it's rude.

Let me.

And les A running her decks savage. Yeah, I'm like, I'm trying to see how I can like go around it. Maybe and like, but I think some group messages are just just left to not be Please again to Leo's on the.

Sage, Yeah, whoa walk into a bar?

Anyways, all right, y'all, see you later.