Wine down with Jane Kramer, and I heard radio podcast had a little technical difficulties to start this podcast, which made me wonder do we do a question and answer podcast? Was that God's way of saying you know what you just need? I was already in my car headed home, so I felt like that was fine. I took the sign and we're out. Oh hey Chris, Hi, Hey Chris. Do you hate when people shorten your name? No? I love Chris. I think it's cute. Really, I think Kris
Jenner actually did it for me. Do you know she's a Kristen? Really? I thought she was Chris No this entire time. I thought, I'm pretty positive false information. I'm probably putting it out there like Google. I don't know. I think she's Kristen. So she made it hot to me. Wow, Yeah, I think Chris is actually cute. You know, I think it's so cute. But I used to get so annoyed with my friend Rachel. I'm sorry if you're listening, but she loved to shorten people's names, like loved it. What
were you Joe? Jan? No, No, that doesn't count. She just put a different vowel at the end. I was like, no, no, I was like I was because she was like least odd Chell, you know, Jen, who are the other girls in our group? Ash or whatever, and she'd be like Jan, I ah, stop it right there, like the plastics, stop trying to But yeah, I know that was but I never really got to. Some people just called me like Ray, So I really love that. I call you Ray. I kind of think it's cute. Okay, you guys live with
Chris and Ray is the most basic conversation. Maybe we should do that. We should just go by our nicknames day because truly, that's like when we answer question answered, it's not really us, it's it's like a bar name. Yeah, it's like a bar name. It's not really from Janna and Chris, and it's from I'll tell you what Chris would say? What would Ray do? Yeah? I love it. We also have Mark on I want a cool name. Okay, um, but do people call you Marky, Marky, Marcus, Marky mark
a lot? I know I wanted to original. Yeah, no, Marco. There's a lot of variations to Mark. You can't really say mark. It was mar is not great. Can you be like M money or M Ditty or something, M diggity, no doubt. But that's a hard one to to like because our names are only four letters, so it's like those are our names are hard to like make a nickname or like not a nickname but shortened like a Chris with a Kristen. Well. I also just like you
could be J and I think that's so cute. Love J. I know, love J the name to clarify, Oh, you have quite a history, Cramer. I gotta keep these nice and clean, the boundaries nice and clean it now there was never any love there, yes, and moving forward quickly. Well, she is Kristen Mary Jenner. And also I don't think you should blame God for you keeping the volume down on your computer. I think that's on you. And we should do a Q and A and we should not
second guess it. Okay, okay um does what was his nickname? We have to give him niame. I was gonna say Marky Mark, but that's you can't do that because that's Walburg. I like like M dog or M diggity. Yeah, I don't know, Like, who do you want to be? Mark? M? Who have you always wanted to be? About that? What your last name? Last name is Molnitsky, which is complicated her. I used to get a lot a lot of people
called me mo or Mr Mo. What about Ni? I don't know what you're saying, Hey, ski about Mark Mo? Mo money. I think you're stalling at this point because you're scared of the questions. You're about like, we're going to go a ski? Alright, ski like whatever? Answer questions? Alright, but we got well, we've got them in different categories.
Can we pick the category? Can I just say that I feel unsafe because I thought we would have the questions and we could look at each other and say yes or no, And so you, being the keeper is making me feel anxious. I just got a little naxious. Not gonna lie. Well, let me give you the categories. First, mom questions, dating questions, sex questions, here for it, friendship questions,
and one more, the forbidden questions. The forbidden questions are ones we do not think you will answer and may just ask me to edit them out of the whole show, which is fine. But we do have a fifth category called asking sometimes to edit things. Um, okay, well, I feel like a lot of these categor I'm just sitting down. Yes, I thought that was the idea of the Q and I episode was drinks. I mean, Chris and I would
have a glass if you want a glass? Or is it too early blood work because I'm forty and I need my hormone. That's a question. Alrey, Fine, we'll do this stone colts over. Um, let's start with let's go like light. I don't want to go for abidd and yet let's go with friendship for one hundred marks. Here we go. Let's see. Okay, Uh, this is from Catherine, and you know this is funny. This may actually be
from Catherine. This is this is planted. The question is do you have tips for setting boundaries with a friend who always depends on you for advice but never takes it. This maybe Catherine, this, this could be It could be my alias because I felt this way about Cramer. Tell no, I really didn't Oh no, no, um on this episode of Chris and Janna gett No, it's raining, Chris, Um no, tell me talk to me. No. I was just kidding. I really do feel like you took my advice, but like,
go for it. Um, hang on, I actually I say the boundary is just protect your own peace. Would you agree with that like I at some point, I'm like, I am always willing to listen and help, but at some point when it becomes in detriment to yourself and a waste of your time, it's like I'm all done. I think, yeah, and I think there's a season two. Like for example, like y'all heard me ruminate over and over and poor Pam I'd walk with her every single day and be like, what are you You know what
I mean? She's like yeah, like where it's like, I'm I know I was wearing her out post divorce, like in the process of all of it, but I think, you know, friends are I think there comes upoint if I was if I was still doing that, I think I think you or anyone would be like, hey, like
it's time you gotta um. It's hard to it's like to phrase it where it's like it's really hard to watch you continue down this and like, you know, I've I've kind of said what I could say, and you know, I'm gonna have to place the boundary because it's really hard to to see this like repetition right, well, it just becomes I hate to say, like a waste of your time. But at some point like we're all living
big lives. If I'm just it's the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over expecting a different result. So if I'm saying the same thing and you're asking the same thing or saying the same thing, then we're just stuck. And I think it's how much the friend takes it onto, like sometimes where it's like all right, like I've said my piece and like you know, and I feel like we're really good. It's like we've all set our pieces and our stuff and then we kind
of just check in sometimes, but we don't. We're not bringing it up constantly, which I think helps the boundary. So it's like my boundaries, I'm not going to bring it up unless you bring it up. Well. I also would say this is almost like flipping it inside out, but it's like don't yeah, don't make it your stuff and don't take it so personally. Like I remember with Mike, I would always say to you, like, if you love Mike, I love Mike, but the minute you hate him, I
have a garbage bag and a plan. Uh So I feel like I think that's the more empowering position to take in advice giving. You can't if you're giving advice, you have to be doing it out of the right intention and it doesn't need to be about you. It just needs to be about helping someone. But I can totally get it wearing someone down too or I think that's when you have to step in and be like hey, like I'm I've said my piece and and now like
you know, it's it's time to either you know. But again, like you know, with Katherine to to me, it's like she was like when when everything happened and I was potentially thinking of not divorcing Mike again, Like that's when she was like, I can't work with you anymore because I can't watch you, can you know, continue doing something
that I know is like hurting you? Hurting you and l I too, right, so and now was the boundary, she said, you know, And I was like, oh, all right, yeah, Mark, what do you think I think that's good advice for me? I just think when my daughter is in this situation and I always give them advice and somemes they don't take it, and that's okay, you know. For me, it's just kind of like I'm gonna give it, and then
you've got to make your own choices in life. So I think that the advice it's not about you is good here. I think if they come to you for advice, you give it, but don't put so much into it that you're gonna beat your head into the law if they don't take it. If they don't take it, they don't take it. It's their life, exactly. Gentle pushed another friendship question. Um Katie says, my friend's wife has been cheating on him. What can I do or say to
help him? My friend's wife has been no Katie is, but I think she's friends with a guy or could be a girl. Her friend's wife has been cheating on him. Okay, there we go. Katie has a male friend whose wife has been cheating on him. What can she do to help him? So she's friends with the guy or she's friends with the wife. She's friends with a guy? Does she know? Do I have questions? There's a lot. Yeah, there's more to the star than we know. Well, for
what friend who's being cheated on? What can you do to help them? I don't know anything about that. Mark. I say stay consistent and stay the safe space for the friend, because I think it is a very lonely place. Janna can speak more probably intuitively about that piece of it, but I would say it's a lonely place to be in.
And if a friend can be the safe place where you can keep going and turning and supporting and reminding you of your strength and your dignity and your intention and your future, then you just stay the safe space. And I would say just continue to speak the truth because I think a lot of times when you're in that position of being cheated on, you really start to blame yourself and things that you could have done differently.
And I think having someone that kind of just speaks truth into you and like be that truth seekert, it's like, you know, um, listen and speak truth, like hey, you're you're a good person because you are and you don't deserve this, which you didn't and um, I think that's important to yea um. But just again stay stay, keep a boundary. But then, just like you said, safe space, I love that. I also would say, like little energy
to the hatred of the other one. Yes, you know it's so funny, You're like yeah, yeah, because I'm just like it's it's like you already know that person is being you know, not a great person. So the last thing you need to do is like hear that over and over. Let's just like pour the effort into the person being cheated on and like give them empowerment and love and safety, and let's keep the focus away from the dirt bags. Yeah, agreed. Can I have sex for one? Please?
Can we can move back? We can n back and forth? Can I have a deodorant sponsorship for five? Because I'm getting sweaty? I was going to add it that last one, don't sleep with him? Oh yeah, Joanna has requested a sex question, and here it comes, no pun intended mark act. We'll start general and then go specific. How long before you have sex with a date? How long before oral? I'm gonna mute my microphone and like grandmar digging from here.
I honestly think it depends on what you want for the relationship, right, So like a lot of times like I'm dying because I know too much. Go ahead, No, No, I was gonna say, like for like hot Girl summer for example. Um, it's like my girlfriends were like, don't sleep with them on the first date. And it's like and also it's like but when you know what it's gonna be if it's just gonna be sex, like, I don't think it matters what day or like what date.
To be truthful, if you really like the person, I say wait, but if it's just gonna be sex, like one of them was just sex. And for our younger listeners, I would say, wait till you're married. Hi named him. Well, no, this is a really actually this is interesting because it's going to go and like side swipe to faith for a second, needs do quickly. But my so I want to be a group leader for church and every but my so I have I can't get the job. Listen. So I've met with the pastors like the I've met
with the pastor's wife. We've sat down a few times. And I've also sat down with I have a lady that comes to my house every Wednesday and she's just like disciple in me and talking me through the Bible and when the check up. So one of the things that if you know it's going to be sex, to just go for it. But listen, one of the things that we're talking about is one of the guidelines to be a leader is you can't have sex out of marriage. And I was like, writing your resignation letter. She leaves,
thanks again, Kathy, appreciate all your time. But I'm also speaking to another friend who again is very big into the Christian world. She's in her you know, late forties, and she's dating potentially someone, and you know, she's like, I'm gonna wait to have sex till i'm married, And I'm like, but you've already had sex even But it's like, and so I really have to work through that with Jamie today because I'm like, I'm struggling with like that piece of it, because I'm like, why can't I still
be a follower? Like there's I don't know, Kristen, come on, we'll listen. I can't not standing on some holy ground here. My daughter was born January five and I was eight September seven. So after you carry the one, it seems like there's a remainder of unqualified to answer the question. But like you're still you, We're still a Christian, you still like so I think I just like, I'm really
like that piece. I'm actually really truly struggling with. I mean, i'd struggle if I was dating again, i'd struggle, But I'm also like the connection, it's important. I know, because I know how important sex now is in a relationship like it is, especially for me. It is very important, and I think it needs to personally be there. And I will say this when it go to the oral, We're gonna hop back over on the lepisode of the ground. We're gonna step off holy Land for a second. This
is really running the gamut. But like I've had sex, Oh god, I mean, like guys, I can I am blushing for you. I've had less oral than sex. Same because I almost think it's more intimate. I do think it's more intimate. Oh, I feel like I can already see the messages coming in, But I don't. I think maybe women agree with that. I don't know. Um, not a lot of women in Nashville's what I've learned to agree with that. Well, they're just handing them out. Oh really,
no pun intended. Those two actually interesting and a bunch of job offers. Okay, alrighty oh wait, I take that back. Oh no, that actually is true too for the other side too, So I'm flipping it so like I have. If I'm going to be totally if we're gonna get really honest here, I want to die already know, but like I can't even say, oh good receiving. Receiving was even lower really like my ex husband the third mark, the quality of this audio is just ratchet. We are
all over and wanting to die. He didn't do that for the first time until we were maybe getting back together when he got out of rehab. Would that be an intimacy issue maybe, but also like and then before that, I mean maybe maybe one or two guys before that. Okay, low when you know me another end of the spectrum. So I lived in Los Angeles. I've had sex, you know, yeah we had Yeah, but that piece was low and then ever since then, I've just been like, go ahead, no,
I still I don't know. It's still like for like, I get like really insecure, insecure, but I get really shy. So I would say I would say, I aways like no, no no, no, no, no no, let's just have sex, like come up, come on, come on, sending the elevator for you, come on up. Um. I would say the same though really very intimate. I just feel like it's such a vulnerable maybe place to be time to move forward. Can we take it? What do you? Marcus didn't have any
any questions around any of this. Oh, certainly not. I just come out just to clarify the answer to the original question, which was, if you're laying a foundation for a long term relationship, you may want to wait a few dates. But if you understand what's going on and neither of you and you both are on the same page, there's nothing wrong with jumping in sooner. I agree. And also like, listen, once you give I said this to my uh younger girlfriend of mine. I said, once you
give them sex, they're kind of done with you. Some guys. It's true though, in the dating world, like I've had I've waited and had sex with a few people and I was gone, Like they were just like all right, what I wanted. I slept with so and so, and I'm done even if I waited. Okay, I'd like to also say that I am too emotionally connected, Like I am not one of those people that can do that
and not be emotionally connected. So if you know yourself well enough, I think you have to answer your own question, because to me, it cloud so much. I've never just been DTF. If the kids still say that, so, it would that would layer, and it would layer it up for me and then I wouldn't be able to emotionally disconnect when I think. That's where like my therapist and
we were talking about borning Jewish guy. She was like that that whole thing was just a straight like you like, you have to know what it is because after that, it's like but then but they all everyone knows me. I get connected once I'm having the sex was good. Yeah, that's true. The only place he wasn't boring was that. So that's what And I was like, well, unless everyone's having sex with him on Thanksgiving, he's not in the
mix anymore. Yeah, so okay, So so I would just say wait and for me, like I've you know, for then, I'm waiting group leader. I'm going to be a Bible leader and I'm going to figure this out with Jamie today. Can you just give the name of the church so moms can know not where to send all impressionable children. No, it's a single mom's group. That's the thing too. I'm like, how you like, I want to lead a single mom's group. That's great, that's like I'm trying to know them. The
purpose thing. I'm like, all right, I want to lead a group and like have community and and and talk about how you're not having sex. Apparently so good for you. Kramer trying um, do you know who tinks is? No? Thinks it's a TikToker talked about dating. She's got a podcast now. Anyway, she has a very interesting theory on this. When do you sleep with someone? She says, it almost doesn't matter because when you meet a guy, he puts
you into a box. He either puts you into the box of I want to date this person, and if you're in that box, there's nothing you could do to change that. You could puke out his shoes, you could sleep with him the first night. It doesn't matter. He wants to date you, you're in that box, or he puts you in the hook up box, in which case it doesn't matter. You can make him wait three months
asleep with you. When he does, he's going to be gone because you're in the hook up box and there's very little you can do to get out of one of those boxes. Well, once he's in your box, I decided which box you're in, He's out of your box and out of your life. Is that what you're saying?
Once he stuck with you box Yeah, it's basically like he already knows that box is going to put you in, like you know, it's like and actually, that's a really good way to put it because I can definitely see the actually see that too, yeah, with like oh that he definitely put me just in this box or this person. Yeah, So that doesn't make sense. So then the bottom line is sleep with him when you're ready, because he's either a dick or he's super interested. Amen. Let's se another
sex question. We've had a long time on that one, so I'm just kind of kind get to a good one here. What was it like being intimate for the first time with someone other than your husband? H like when we got divorced. I guess, yeah, um it was, you know what. I never felt sexy in that marriage. Um.
I remember before I found out about the affairs. I remember we were sitting at brick Tops, which I still like, it's not funny, like when you have a memory from something, it's like, I will never forget when I sat at brick Tops and he was just like we I was were talking about sex, and like, you know, I got a little emotional like why he wouldn't sleep with me? And he was like, well maybe if you wore something sexy, and I just remember being like, and I saw, I
started crying and I left the restaurant. And because I always just wore like his big T shirts, I thought that was sexy. So I just never ever felt sexy in the relationship, you know, obviously with our history and everything. And so you know, I got my boobs ten days before I found out about things. So he never got to touch my boobs. Oh I like that. He never
like any of it. So like, and then I got this, like you know, divorce, I lost a little weight and I started to feel really like sexy and then like you know, I got some attention and that made me feel good because when I the first month post divorce, I was like, no one's ever gonna want to be with me and the scot you know what I mean, I just like it just was like I was hating on myself because I'm just like I'm washed up, I'm the I'm the problem, I'm the like all these things.
And then it just kind of switched. And then I when I started to feel a little attention, that felt nice. And then the first time like sleeping with someone, it was just like I just like it was sexy. It just felt secy. I felt sexy. I felt like more in my body and like someone really wanted to sleep with me as opposed to the last seven years forcing
someone to sleep with me. And that's a different feeling, like to really like someone wants to touch me, and like it feels a lot of people that want to touch you, sorr, I'm like grubbing them and now I
noticed really nestling the girls. Girls. But also like in a lot I got a lot of hate for like showing off my boobs, but I'm like I was, I felt I wasn't trying to get thirsty traps like but at the same time it felt good, like for the first time, like I felt sexy and like so yeah, I wanted to show it off, like I'm not, you know, one of the Instagram models that show it off every day.
But even if I was like, who cares, let them be sexy, let them show it off if that's what they want to do and whatever, It's like I was doing it more for like me, like yourself felt sexy, yeah, because I never felt that way a competence too, yeah, yeah, yeah, good answer. Christie wants to know where the strangest place you've ever had sex? No judgment, Kristen, I wish I was gonna I was gonna say it an ice maker in a restaurant, on top of an ice machine at
a restaurant where Applebee's no just in location. It wasn't a chain, I'll say that. It wasn't. No, it was not from Michigan. And you've got a tramp stamp, Cramer. I'm just a product of my generation and they used to be stars. Um, I would I would give that. I think that's it, But I'm going to think for a minute. Okay, I think that is pretty where's yours? Honestly, you guys, I am so boring. I'm like the in
bed missionary. Yeah. Like I'm just like a really like which um yeah, but I kind of like, again, want to sex it up a little bit, Like I kind of want like, I can tell you where there's an awfully great ice machine. But wait, you've got it out of a bed before. I mean, I got caught one time in high school on my parents, I mean on my high school boyfriend's couch. Um that was embarrassing, and in the condom fellow and his dad the condom as
my fucking naked self is running up these stairs. More did because we left, Um, we left Sadie Hawkins early to like go have sex. And so I slide this note underneath my mom's door because the mom goes, you have twenty four hours to tell your mother. Was like, and so I slid a note under the door to my mom, and I was like, is the first time we ever read sex? I'm so sorry it wasn't, but you know, I lied, And so we're gonna need something. We're gonna need something a little more raunchy. Okay, I'm
trying to think in a car. I've had sex in a car, but I mean nothing where it's like we I pulled him from the restaurant, which that is like kind of a fantasy of mine, going like like meet me in the restaurant and meet me in the restroom in five minutes fantasy. Okay, So when it happens for you, I just want one emoji the ice cube, and that's all I want. And I don't need any other details. I just need to know we have ice ice babied.
Oh god, Okay, I'm kind of hot though, Yeah, of course it sounds hot anybody Mark, anybody in a plane? Have you in a plane? You guys? I do have a funny story. Friends of ours a hand drop something I mean he didn't like, but I got a Mark. I'm dying. I'm dying. Preston and I are on a mission to be in the Mile High club together. Yeah. Can I tell one funny story that is like going to sound bougie, but it's not, but it kind of is. Friends of ours were like, Hey, after this football game,
why don't you take our plane? It has to go back to Nashville anyways, private plane. So Preston's like brown chicks, like, baby, this is our time mile High. I get ready like he's talking dirty the whole way to the airport and we get there and it's like the sweetest little chitty bang bang wind up plane. It's essentially a golf cart with wings. And I was like, mmm, put that back on the vision for Mark. What about you? I mean, you know, as you know, I'm one of the more
boring people who ever exist. There was a balcony at the Grand Californian Hotel at Disneyland. There's an out of the hotel, there's a balcony. Yeah, is that why your face is up backstage at Disneyland. Do not service this human being? Yeah, identification photos a little raunchy. I'm not gonna lie. Oh gosh, I love it. Okay, alright, moving on, moving on, Let's see, let's go to some of the
dating questions. Sandra says, at what point do you think it's okay for your kids to meet the person you're dating. We have new boundaries in the queendom about this. What is it? Remember it went on the white board after his name. Uh huh, that was a mistake A long time. Yeah, yeah, it needs to be like when you're like in love lah blah blah blah blah blah blah, love love like a long long time. Um, I'm definitely, I bet. Here's
the deal. It's like it's so hard because it's like where I struggle with it, is like, all right, let's say I'm in love and I'm dating this person. If they're not good with my kids, I'm done. So it's like a part of me is like I almost want to see how they are with the kids, so I can make more of a a um with that, Like
I can make more of a judge informed decision. Yeah, of whether or not, like I want to continue dating this person because if they're if they're if they don't get on the ground with my kids and roll around and like you know, it's like that's what I want out of someone that I end up with, Like that just really goes in there and just like is with my kids, and like if it's like weird, I'd be like, oh man, I just kind of not wasted, but like spent six six months or so with this person and
now you're meeting my kids and now it's not great, and so I don't know. So that's that's where I kind of like struggle. I'm almost like, can you introduce them as like a friend one time just to like want to see like maybe like when I because I have like you know, Shane and Josh come over, Like I have a lot of guy friends and their wives, and like I have like you know, other guy friends that like you know, when my director friends like Daniel
came over. It's like so it's like I could almost maybe can you play it like that where it's like, hey, when there's more people over, like for example, tonight, if I was to invite hit him, you know, like, oh, this is my friend whatever, just to see like how he interacts. Sure, because like Rocco will come over like pay him and he's just like you know, you know, knuckles.
But then also that might be really uncomfortable for that person too, So it's like that weird and I don't want to judge them off of like a friend uncomfortable nous too. What Mark helped me out here give me some fatherly advice on this one. I think you're I think it's good. I think you're right to wait. But also it might be good for them to just know this person exists in the world before they find out it's your boyfriend or someone that's going to be involved
in their lives in that way. So like a meeting without like any sort of like touching. Well, and here's kind of what I what I told this one person if we continue hanging out, is it has to be
their idea. So what I do is I'm always going to say like, hey, this is my friend, like this is my friend so and so, and then maybe one day and be like hey, maybe when they do want mommy's friend so and so to come over, And it has to be Jolie's idea and Jason's to have that person come over, like I wanted to be their idea as opposed to my idea. So I think that hopefully can help other people to like I don't and I
don't know if that's the right way to do it. Like, but in my mind, it's like, it's not me having some guy come into our space. It's they've maybe talked on FaceTime a few times and they've maybe like I've maybe mentioned him as a friend. Where it's like that is like they don't know about the boyfriend status until months later, whereas it this is just like, oh, this is like mommy's friend that comes over, it's really fun and plays with us. That kind of feels good to me.
But it has to be like, hey, baby girl, do you want you know, mommy's friend to come over? Yeah? Or no? And then okay, cool, it's like the idea. Do you like that? Mark? I think that's good. Yeah. Just the last thing you want is something to meet every guy you go on a date, Like you always hear those stories of people who just bring this guy home every other week, this a new guy, and it really can be traumatic. Yeah, And I think I mentioned this one time, but I had a guy show up
last year. He's like surprised me, and I go, what are you doing here? I have my kids? Like, you have to leave. He's like, well, you're having like a you know, a pool party. I know I talked to some and so who was here? I go, you have to leave, like you're not meeting my kids, like and and that's when I was like, I was like no, like I'm like and then someone else to kind of did the same thing and I immediately stopped, like it was sweet. He was trying to help something in my house.
But I texted saying, hey, text me when you're here, and I'll go outside visitors Like the visitors almost here. Well, I come in from out of my room and he's in my house fixing my clock, and I go, what are you doing? Yeah? I was like boundaries. I was like, you know what I mean, like my kids, Like I was like my kids seeing anybody? Yeah, So very protective now because of that last situation, Sarah wonders, do you have a type of guy that you're most attracted to? Christen,
I don't have a type. If you saw X and you saw current husband, you'd be like opposite day. Um, I'm attracted to. You do have a type, Jana's could all be lined up to be like framed to be identified for a crime, and you'd be like, I think it's a number four, number five. Um, I am wildly attracted to humor. It matters to me way too much. So if you looked at all my boyfriends husband's all lined up, you just you'd have to listen to them
talk to understand. But like, my husband is one of the funniest, wittiest human beings I had met, and I felt like that's what keeps it that is just so wildly attractive to me. He is also really good to bed, So okay, I just like to throw it out. He deserves a little that little shout out because it's true, all right, and it does matter. So my type is a lineup, oh boy, And I mean, you know, I kind of feel like I'm all over the map. But like the ones that I chase or they all look
the same, they all look the same. Yeah. At one point I was like, so we're all done with former football players? Yeah, yeah, Okay, Well, I mean this kind of leads nicely the next question from Jenna and the dating category. She says did you date John Mayer? I mean that definitely the Bodies of Wonderland little comment that definitely got you know that the other quick, Um, we did, Yes, we did go on a date. M hm, Yes we did. Uh huh um. It was just one date and we
talked a little bit before. But um, he's a lovely human and we just were not compatible. And earlier you mentioned that, you know, if it's the right situation, there are no limits to what happens on a first date. Did not have sex with him? I did not have sex with him. It was yeah, no, we we literally went on one day. We were going to have another one, and we both decided that it was not going to
be long term. So there's no point. This is great but he's great, so like you know, like I mean, I don't speak to him, but I like I wish him the best. I think he's great and you know he's Yeah, nothing nothing bad to say. It was. It was a great date. We had a great time, and I think you had good You had good conversation. Yeah, we had great conversations, great date, great time, and I think you know you Um, it's when you don't see it going further there I don't think at this age
it's makes sense to continue. Yeah, and a few things just in the line with both of us, and we're like a cool take care, no hard feelings, zero good luck. I had a wedding hashtag all lined up that was going to be running form mayor, and I was excited. I was excited. She was very excited. All Right, I think what we should do is take a break, and when we come back, I'm going to run by the forbidden questions and see what you want to do with them. Okay,
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this turned out. Hannah, our producer, sent me over the list of questions and I picked my favorites and then she goes, who there are some that I didn't even put in there, Like, Okay, those are the ones I want. She said, well, I don't think she'll answer them. Well, great, if she wants to veto them, if she wants to pass, she can do that. It's her podcast. But I think we should at least una buyed because this is the stuff people want to hear about I want to vomit.
What was interesting is we take questions when we're out on wind doown on like the tour, but we get to vet them. And so I just came into this podcast thinking we were going to be able to vet them, and I didn't realize again that Mark had this control. You can vet them. Here's what I'm saying. I will read you the question. If you don't want to answer it or even cannot, maybe there are something you cannot answer.
That's right, because we're good Christian women. Go ahead forbidden Fruit for five, say Vito, whatever you want to say, and we'll move on to the next one. All right, Tracy, will you share how you found out about Mike? Well? I thought this was going to be more fun. Well there's more. Um. Well, the question is will I share? The question is will I share what happened with Mike? Oh you found out about Mike? Yes, I will share how I found out about Mike? Pre order pre order
the preorder your book? Now, Okay, fair answer, that's technically what if I if I'm going by the question, that is the right, that's the answer. Yes, I will share, um And we're counting on you to pre order. All right, this is from the real Mama Bear, who says, how does it make you feel that Ian keeps talking to the press about you? Um? I didn't know that he was still talking to press. Um. I don't. Well, I'll
say like I tried to avoid reading gossip sites. Um. I'll just say for me, what I realized with that whole situation, um, was that certain outlets, um, the one that he spoke to, don't really don't really care about the truth. Um. Because when I got the email from I'll just us Weekly, when I got an email from them saying that he did a sit down, Um, you know, I sent them the proof of you know, the lies and other information that I had received from people. Um,
and they still chose to run the story. Um. She Basically the editor was like who or you know who was writing the story basically said like, you know, I should show the receipts on my Insta. And in that moment was when I was like, the publications don't care about the truth, They just care about the drama. Um. And I wanted so badly to defend myself um, because yeah, like I again, I sent to the editor of this this information and I wanted to defend myself on my page.
But again like that's what this, that's what thus Weekly wanted. They wanted me to. They wanted more of a story and more of a pickup and more of a you know, um, more of just um, more of something they can write about and you know UM. To me, the intentions of both were very ugly UM. And I had to look inside and go, Okay, why have I continued to be an unhealthy situations and continue unhealthy patterns and relationships? Um? And I realized in that moment like I'm actually kind
of glad, not glad, I shouldnt say glad. That was a big turning point for me because I was I really had to like go inward and do my work and go, okay, like, where's the work that I need to do on myself to have like continued to be in um a relationship where I didn't trust the person and you know, I didn't recognize or I didn't you know,
get their red flags and um. You know what I realized now is like when I move forward in a new relationship, like if someone lies to me and from the get I can't stay in that relationship because I have so many trust issues that I don't like who I turned into and I think you know again, for me, it's like I look at it and and even just like in the dating world where I'm at right now in my dating life, it's like I have to just really listen and see and observe and um and just
um make sure I'm not following following past patterns and just kind of checking in with my gut and myself while I'm in this new dating world. Because again, like I for sure percent know that like if someone straight up lies to me in the beginning or is not trustworthy, like I have to bounce. Um. So yeah, the interesting part to me is even if I'm not in it with you, right, even if I'm not your friend thirty feet, you spoke zero of him, you never made official statement,
pictures are deleted, we are moving on. You were so tactful about how you handled all of that. Thanks. Well. What you just said segways beautifully into our final question from Holly, which is who are you dating. I'm not saying yet, I'm the past. His body is not a wonderland, what actually is it is? But I just I'm I'm really like I want to be careful and I'm being mindful. And there's a lot of times too he's cute. He'll be like you, he's like you have it's like your eyes.
It's like I can't tell. And I go, I need to go turtle slow with this turtle slow. And I said, I've moved very fast and past relationships. And I was just like, yes, there's things I'd love to say because my love adict wants me to say like or you know whatever. I was like, but I just like, I need to go really slow, and like I'm terrified. I'm terrified to get bamboos all again. I'm terrified out of like, you know, are you going to sit down with us
weekly and spread lies? Are you gonna like you know? I was like, what is your intentions? It's like, so I'm I'm literally like my toe is in, but I'm like my body's out. I have enjoyed how protective you have been about this relationship because he's not even he's not even queen like I mean, no, yeah, yeah, that's what I like about it. Like I've told you before, I like the way I like the way your eyes
light up when you talk about him. It's something I always watched for but I also just enjoy how wildly private you've been about him, even with friends, and I think that matters, Like there's something different. I want to make my own opinion, and I love Queendom. I love you guys, and people ask I saw one of the questions,
are you still friends with Pam? And like, of course, like we're like, we've been trying to get together since like I think your Queendom child Like everyone's so busy with all breaks in this that they're there, but I'm like, I really like, I think I've always when I pick guys, I pick them based off I think. And this isn't really crappy thing to say, but other people's opinions sometimes are louder than my own opinion. You're in a chapter of trusting yourself more, which is what I really like.
That's what I gain out of the privacy of it. Yeah, you don't need like I wanted to make my up for myself, though, I am going to go through the vetting process well tonight she gets to meet him tonight for the first time, so tbd mm hmm. But the question, the answer to that is is like it's no, I'm not a toe, is in? Bodies out? And is the body out? Well? I need to meeting with church pastor and I gotta like catch me hosting the Bible study. But anyhow, I feel like we should do a part
two because there's a lot of questions left. So maybe we should do a part two later on or not, or it could just be done and that's fine. Bye guys.
