Namaste Where You Are with Teresa Guidice

while you touch on it so you don't cry. No, No, I won't cry. I've cried enough. I had a good cry session therapy. UM. So I posted that photo, which it was a couple of weeks ago now on October one for Domestic Violence War in this month, which is the month of October, and it was a Facebook memory that came up. Oh, I did see this one and it was like and I had like some scrapes on my shoulder, on the top of my shoulder and like

on the bottom or whatever. And that was the like a few weeks after the first guy tried to kill me. I've only spoken about it on Dancing with the Stars when we went to the safe Horizon thing, and I haven't really like I don't really touch on it, and I I just had so much like emotion when I did, and I don't even know like why, Like when I saw the photo in September and I was just like I just kind of like stared at it for like a while. And then I remember October was, you know,

domestic violenceward of months. I was like, all right, I'm gonna I think I'm gonna like just share a piece of it and I hope that it will help someone. But like when I pressed send, I like started like to get really upset because I think it's like the like the awareness like Amy calls it, like the grief like you go through like stages of grief, and that was like the stage of like acceptance, which is like it makes it real, but what made it harder. And

this is what we walked through today in therapy. Okay, shoot, I haven't seen his face and since I was like one and they put his mug shot and like yesterday, like I saw it for the first time and I was just like, I don't it just like sent like a wave of like just chills. And then like I got like scared, even though I know he's not here anymore, but it was just like it was like I had to like work through that because I'm like, well, have I not seen his face? Like why would I? Why

would I look at photos of him? You know? And then I started to get sad too because I'm like, he's got he's got kids out there too, you know, kids that never even met him, because like when I met him, I only knew of one daughter. And then when I did Dancing with the Stars, there's apparently like six daughters that he had that some didn't even meet,

and he's gone, like not earth side gone. He committed suicide. Okay, Um, So it was just like I don't know why I'm bringing that up, but I guess just like to get it air sometimes it just needs air to breathe. Yeah, just to say it out loud. I don't know why.

I like, And then like a part of me like and then I started going to like my purpose of like life, and so then I started talking about that in therapy, and I'm like, what I would love to do, like if I didn't have to worry about money in supporting my children, like I would love to open up

like a shelter and like work with kids. Like I was, Amy was like, there was this thirteen year old girl in therapy today and I don't know, I just had like a and a pull to like talk to her, and so I sat there and talked to her for like five minutes in there, and I was just like I felt so good selfishly after and like that's what I would love to help kids, open a shelter for women. I also think there's a season for everything. I think that we're not. It doesn't mean that that won't be

or it hasn't just because it hasn't happened. I just think we're all in a season right now. If like our kids are tiny, we feel like we're not in the little little years anymore because they're like almost four and six and a half, but they still really need us in a in a real way. I mean they're always going to but they're tiny. So I feel like, just don't be hard on yourself and just keep taking

steps towards it. Well, I just feel like I'm like, what is my purpose right Like what is like light topics with Janna Creamer, But I don't know, like, do you guys struggle with that, because I'm like, for me, I'm like, all right, yes, I know. I'm never like I'm not like the best singer in the world. I'm not the best actress in the world. But I love doing it and I enjoyed and it supports my family. Do I want to be you know, did I ever think I was going to be an influencer on Instagram? No?

But it supports my family and I so I you know, I I promote products that I like, and again it's an efforts to support my family. And but I'm like when I when I peeled back the layers, I'm like, I would give anything to almost get off Instagram. Oh I feel that to my core and just like like what would I like and go to shelters, open a shelter like and and you know, be with kids every day and like help help, like the fourteen fifteen year old kids where I got lost, you know. And it's

but I'm like, and maybe that's down the road. But sometimes I'm like, what is my purpose? And like what am I doing? And then I'm like, well, my question is what's stopping you from starting? Starting? I mean, I feel like and by the way, for people that listening there are in a bad situation and safe horizon, they're an amazing shelter. So I want to promote that as well. Um,

it's it's so hard. We've talked about this before and I'm like, I'm I want to, but I'm like, I don't have the financial income to just be like here's a place with fifteen beds and like, but wonder if you start the networking piece for you now and like just get it good understanding, Like maybe eventually the shelter is the end goal for everybody listening. That's Channa blowing her no because she wasn't going to cry when she

talked about she's all cried out. But I feel like you can baby step now, Like maybe there's like I have felt this in my own personal life too, Like you know, I'm a stay at home mom. I haven't had a nanny, we don't have help, and I'm a family here, but I have felt this like call to help moms and so for me, like, ultimately what I would like to do is be supportive. We have a stillborn task force. You and I have talked about that,

but like that's the dream for me. Which sounds really like morbid, but like to walk that sacred space with moms. But that is a lot of time away from home, and not that I I don't want to do that just in this season. I can't do that every single day. So I'm just doing what I can and little bite sized pieces to get towards that, and once in a

while I'm able to walk those spaces. But in the meantime, there's other ways, especially with your influence, I feel like you help so much the awareness, raising money for I mean, there's tons of ways. I feel like you can just start your slow chip away and framer shelter. Yeah, And I think that if what's overwhelming to you was the financial part of it, like God will provide that, you know what I mean, Like, I don't think you should

worry about that component of it. There are a lot of components to this, but there's probably plenty of people out there that would want to invest help in a situation like this, you know. So it's like, if you start taking some steps and start having the conversation, doors will open. I think you would be surprised. Yeah, I guess I just didn't even know where to start. You just did I bet Yeah, someone is going to let

you know, don't you do? Guys ever, like you know your purpose and stuff too, like and I don't know. I deal with this with Amy all the time. Yeah. Yeah, it's I mean, life is short, you know it is. It's shorter than you even know. Yeah, and it's like what is I have no idea? Yeah, it's overwhelming, honestly, I mean I get it at least, you know. You know, I don't necessarily have like a this is what I would want to do, you know. I mean I have like a few things, but not like something I don't know.

I mean, for me, it's more missions and going on more mission trips. But then of course it's always like, well that costs this amount of money. You know. The money is always a thing. You know, it's always about money, saying it to myself. Do But I mean, I love I think it's beautiful when you just like, no, like I would love to do this, you know. I think that's great because I kind of get lost in that, like what would I love to do? I don't know.

I'm so busy with kids and you know whatever. But he does I feel like God kind of like if you look back even where we are now onto our past lives, we see how he's implemented little pieces that we've needed to know all along, Like you couldn't You couldn't have arrived at wanting to run a children's shelter

ten years ago because you didn't have kids yet. And so now having kids and knowing how to like mother well and what they need and walking that daily also gives you insight and education slices to put towards the end goal. So he's building it all along the way. You're getting your resume built. Sure every little thing is something. Yeah, yeah, it's just like I'm like I have It'm like all right, I would love to like here's my goal, right, get on a procedural where like I'm like the fifth lead

and like a doctor show. So I have my study income to support my kids so I don't have to hustle, you know, on with doing fifty other million different things. So that's like that's my study income. And then I released a song here there, we do our Wine Down tour, we do the podcast, like that's all like the fun stuff, like I getting united like by doing this is fun, Like this isn't like this isn't our bread and butter. Yeah, yeah,

this is like how fun is this? Like this is like we get to talk and talk to really cool people and like have fun, laugh, cry, like do all that and then like have the true meaning and purpose of like helping like abused women children like like that's like, oh, like what a like what a gift that would be like to be able to like have because sometimes I'm just like what am I doing? M Like, guys, I just want to be this is the start getting your name out m M. This is a long it feels

like a long journey. Hey, you know what I read something their day where someone's like, oh god, this is I'm gonna busher the heck out of it. Someone's gonna make it up, right. He was like I got I got my first house at fifty or something was like forty then at fifty, Like he wrote a best selling author at sixty's. So it's like, you know, sometimes like never too late? Is it's never too late? Also, speaking of love, I cannot say who it is. Is it never too late? So I had a call with this

one woman. He was like, my love and I love her so much and we've just kind of been on the journey together, and she was just like, I'm never going to find any when I'm older. She was like in her fifties or whatever. And she texted me and was like, he asked me to be my boyfriend. I was like, I tell you tell yourself that, Cramer. Oh, anything you'd like to update us on that? Now? They love the hints you want to say anything. Oh my god, they figured out one girl figured out boring Jewish guy.

I didn't tell you that. It's actually funny. I need to go. Can I just go on one last time for saying it has nothing to do because Jewish. It has everything to him to do with him being boring a lot of guesses for that one. Every one was like, well I'm doing I'm like, oh, oh, I love Jewish people. That's not that I don't like boring people Like that was the point that I don't think I need him to I need him to have more personality than the

bread rules that we should have just kept it boring. Um, but yes, what friends got attacked for calling him boring? Friends got tacked wear we're the friends. Oh yeah, we got I don't read anything because not everybody I have. I have completely deleted and blocked myself from ever going to the credit pages. It's just like you can't um and there's something to say. Well, and here's the end of the day. I'm like, you don't actually know, Like someone like said something and I was like, that is

actually not the truth? Whatsoev? And I'm like, why am I even like? Like I was like, I was like, I'm blocking myself from this. So I literally blocked myself from it. Send it to my accountability person. I said, you know, get a password whatever, put it in here, and then blocked me from this page. And so now I can't even go look at it. One girl did right to me, and she was like, I'm peeing my pants. Are born Jewish guy? She was like, I'm Jewish and I did a lot of born Jewish guys and I

just wanted to know there's really funny one. Well, this one girl goes, I have a good guess, and I go go for it, and she said the name she was if I'm right, I'll even take a swing at the queendom nickname. Um. But I go, I go, oh my god, how did I go? I cannot confirm nor denyed curious why you think that person she was just several little hints. I actually also matched with him on Riyah. He said he was in the and so she was just like, these were nicknames for him, which I can't say.

I can't say anything, and I can't say my nickname for him because it gives it away. Um. But it was just I was literally dying, like so crazy. But she asked me, so, we have a really amazing guest on UM today that I'm excited to talk to her about, UM, Teresa from the Real Housewives of New Jersey. And she said something she goes, UM, if she's willing to go there,

I think you should ask her if she knows. She now knows what red flag she ignored with her first marriage, because it was only when he went away to prison that she finally admitted he had probably cheated on her, even though everyone had been trying to tell her that all along and she was refusing to admit believe it. Um, She's like, I'm a shameless Brava Hall like, and I I don't I don't watch the show. I mean I I've seen the episode of her flipping the table and

all that. I watched her on Dancing with Her with the Stars Um, but I mean, I didn't know that. Like, all I know is like they went to jail. How long did she actually wasn't she was one of them? Was three years? You're a die hard, right, Yeah, But now I can't remember how long he went first, and I want to say it was like, no, she went first and then he went I can't remember it was a year or three years, which is a very different story.

But you know what's interesting about that question, though, is it's hard to really tell when you're watching the show if she really knew or didn't. Now, apparently she was in for a year and a half, year and a half and he was three years. If she knew that he was cheating, or about the prisons because during the

show they're still married, you know what I mean. So it's like, I don't know that she would have admitted at the time, Um, you know that she knew or thought he was having an affair, but then he goes to prison and it's like all this, so then she

admits it. So I don't know, Like I don't know if she knew or had a nice um, maybe she was trying to protect him or you're I mean, and there were some there were some episodes where it's like it's like pretty much right in front of you, but well she's in the waiting room along with Melissa Feaster. They've they're starting a podcast, UM, so we're going to talk all things Bravo in her new podcast coming up after this break. Hello, Hi, hi guy, Hi ladies. What's happening?

How are you good? How are you doing? You know what I was jobs telling Teresa, I'm like, you know what you know? I was telling her that you were on Dancy When the Stars too. I was, UM, I was on God, how many seasons ago was that? My daughter was four months old she's now six, so I'm bad at math. About six years ago. It was a

while ago. Yeah, I was about six years ago. Was um Gleb's first season UM in the in the United States, and that was it was It was a fun It was it was fun, but it was definitely it's hard. Did you enjoy your experience or yes? I did? Yeah, you know, I had no dancing? How many How long were you on for? Well? I made it to the semifinals.

But let me just I'll say this, though there was on your season, there are Because Jesse Decker is a friend of of ours, and I called her, like, girl, there's like professional dancers in the CELEBT group, and that's tough. You know. I'm like, it's it's almost like you're like, you know, dancing with the celebrities, uh, you know, dancers, because it's like they're all amazing. So it's like that's that's a that's a hard cast to like compete with stars. Yeah, yeah,

I mean, listen, it was a great experience. You know. It was something that I've always wanted to do, So I'm glad I get to do it for sure. That's at it. You know. It's a good point because I was saying the same thing at Teresa, and I was like, that's like you going and playing against Lebron and kind of played basketball before, Like how is that fair? You're

probably not gonna win. You could be in the competition, but it's just like, how are you gonna win against a trained and then you also have twenty one year olds against seven. You know, It's just you're a really good friend though, because you didn't say she wasn't gonna win against Lebron. You said she probably wouldn't friendship right there. Listen, today, I really thought I was gonna make it to the

semi father, Like I knew it wasn't gonna win. At one point, I was like, my partner was Pasha and his wife one last season, So I was like, you know what, you can't leave her Mary Ball on the you know, on the mantel by itself. You need to you know, you need to have one right next to her. You guys are married. So here I'm thinking, like, you know, listen,

my hopes were high. I'm like, I could probably win this because like I was putting, I was putting my all into it, and I really you know, like the first dance, I felt really confident, so like you know, Janet, like there's so many movement parts your head, your foot, you point your foot, your hands, your neck, like the

way you look like, there's so many movement parts. Like so it's like I was just, you know, like I was getting adjusted to that because if they were telling me, I looked up at the first the first my first dance, and I'm like, why I was looking up Because it's the tango. I'm also looking for Jesus because I need all the help I can get. I mean, we're all looking up. Yeah, You're like dear Lord, please get me through this. So you guys have a new podcast, it's

out right now. And are you guys, like, are you podcasting together or is it like this where it's like literally you know. Okay. Wait questions. She's in l A and I'm in New Jersey. Okay, Okay, I couldn't tell you're from New Jersey at all, Teresa. It's like New Jersey is my freaking favorite. But why do you say that straight shooters from New Jersey? That accent is everything to me? My accent? Okay, yeah, yeah, you know, it's not like I can tell from the your background. Okay.

Two questions. A, I want to know what's the name of the podcast? No mistake, bitches? Okay, I want to sit on your laps. And then to you, how do you all know each other? Okay? So I actually I started a podcast side piece and I was interviewing, well, I actually had Teresa's attorney on side piece, and then he's so awesome and we, you know, became friends and started a relationship. And then I met Teresa I think

the first time at Ultimate Girls Trip premiere. I became friends with Cynthia Bailey, also from the Housewives and she invited me as her date to the Ultimate Girls Trip premiere. Teresa was flying in to l A for it, and I met Teresa and we just had great talk and conversation and we just started talking and we hit it off. And UM, I then went back to our attorney and I said, you know what, I think there's something here. I've been podcasting. I want to do more than just

me running my mouth. We have great conversations. I think there's a lot more to Theresa than people see watching you know, real Housewives in New Jersey. Um, they don't know about me. I think this could be a great way to kind of open it up so people really get an inside look. Listen, just like you guys do, right, It's not everything that you see in the headlines or this or that. And I think there's just a lot more to to what to who we are than what

you see. Yeah, I mean I definitely can you know. I think we can all relate to that. And it's like, uh, you know, for you like Theresa, like, do you feel like you have to constantly be like I'm not the girl that flips the table, I'm not this, I'm not that like and and then what what part of you has been like you know what, I'm done because I know I've struggled with it and be like I'm done trying to like proved to you that I'm this way or for you to like me like I just am

m and that's that's taken. I mean, it still takes effort in a daily remembrance to be like, Okay, I don't need to I don't need a dent approval, right, I don't need this us in too, like like me or whatever, Like how do you how do you deal with that? And and what are you doing to not have to take those steps? Yeah? I mean, and it's sad because I feel like that I've um, I feel like that I've been trying to defend myself. Yeah. Like like your finger, Oh sorry sorry, I can't get enough

of both of your finger. This ship all day long, you guys, this is not like because we're just talking to the feeling. We're talking with ourselves. Magical moments for me. Um. Yeah, no, listen, I had a great chemistry from the first day we met. And it was so crazy because I was going to do another podcast with these other two women and my attorney was like no, and he kept pushing me off, and I was like, why aren't you getting this done?

I was like, yeah, Adam, And then I guess because you know, he knows me so well, and I guess he knew like I would be a better fit with Melissa. So it's a crazy because that other podcast. I was working on it for like over a year trying to get the contract done. And then so like I'm glad, see, like everything's always meant to base, So I'm glad that Melissa. I'm glad I married you instead. You know, they were going crazy. She just the East Coast staying care of

and I have the West Coast staying care of. So I was excited to do Dancing with the Stars because I was like, oh my god, maybe everyone don't get to see a different side of me, because you know, fans come up to me and like they're like or they ask other people she really mean like that the way she is on the show, and I'm like, oh my god, like that's so far from who I am. Like I'm like, I'm so easy going, I'm like easy

to talk to. I just go with the flow, and you know, and that's who I really want people to see, Like and to get to know like the real theories of you guys, not not the like person that's always defending herself housebands in New Jersey because you know, everyone's always coming for me because I'm the o G. And of course if you come for Teresa, you get a platform. So it's like that's when And unfortunately, like I you know,

like that's you know, I finally got that. But I mean, I wish the rest of America would see what's really happening, because that's what happens, you know, Like they want to come for me because then it gets them, you know, then it gets them, you know, other people to talk about them. So yeah, I mean, but tell you I'm tired. That's why I was excited about doing Dancing with the Stars. But hopefully this season, on season thirteen, maybe people will

get to see a different side of me. So has that been hard then for you and Louis since he's come into the mix later? For you and you dealing with a lot of backlash and then now a lot he gets a lot of backlash, Like, how has that been for y'all? Has that been a hard dynamic? Well? Yeah, I mean you guys saw like yeah, when he came on and then it's like, you know, then I had one of my cast members trying to hurt him. I

had I had to said her straight. In Nashville, you guys saw that, right, Yes, you know the whole table ended up on run. You know, but you guys will see season thirteen how that plays out, how that you know ends up and um, but listen, we're very strong, the two of us, and none of that heard us, like Louie and I and I mean, I think season thirteen is definitely going to be an eye opener for everyone. Good.

I want to talk about the podcast, but I just want to ask one relationship question, if it's okay around how you were able to open your heart back up again after everything that you went through with you know, your first husband. Um. Well yeah, when he left, um, um, I was like, you know what, I'm gonna work on myself. And I've always wanted to do a bikini fitness competition and and and I did it. I was like, oh

my god. You know. Oh, well, first of all, when I when when I was in like in camp, in camp, you know, when I was in camp, Um, I did yoga, I exercised so much so when I came out, I got certified in yoga, and then I came home. Joe left three months later, and then when he left, Um, that's what I did. I got certified in yoga. I mean, unfortunately, I lost my mom eight months later, so I went through a hard time. Then my dad moved in with me. And then after that, after I got fried in yoga,

that's when I did the bikini Fitness competition. I was just like working on myself and then when I was ready for love, Um, it just came, it really did. I mean I was going out, you know, I was meeting I mean, that's the thing. I'm so happy I didn't, like I didn't have to date like a million guys. So that's really not my thing. I'm kind of you know, like think I'm like grateful to God and grateful to my parents because you know how I met Louis. I'll tell you guys, and then I put the story out

on the Housewives. I really, Um, I lost both my parents. Then my dad lives with me three years after my mom passed, you know, after my mom passed, and then I never knew like if you really want something, um, you asked somebody that was close to that passed away. So I looked up in the sky and I swear I started pouring my guts out to my parents on Bay Boulevard at the Jersey Shore and guys. A few weeks after that, I met Louis on Baby Boulevard on the stage. I swear to God, I swear to you

on my four like that really happened. I really, I just poured my my mom blah blah. I called my father Blabama Italian, my please send me a guy that's everything you've ever wanted for me and more, someone to treat me like a princess that talks to me so sweet, because my parents didn't like Joe's vocabulary and how he spoke. Like so I actually, really, like you know, poured my guts out to my parents and told him everything that

I was looking for. And a few weeks later, Wila, I like, as I'm walking, that's how I meet LOI wow, Okay, So how can I ask this or is this? Are we saving some of this? I need to know, like how did the first meet meet happen? Our first date? Like how did you when you meet him on Babe Bolivard? How do you meet him? And is it bay or b a e bay? Okay, I have no problems on you guys. Storry Okay. So I'm I'm walking with my two girlfriends. Like one of them is married, the other

one single. We had we went out the night before. I was hungover and then you know, we drove you know, we had a birthday party and like up north, so then we drove back down the shore and so it was it was a crappy day. I was a cloudy. So my girlfriend and we would walk every single morning

because it was during COVID. I mean I think it was. Yeah, it was kind of COVID but keeping distant, you know, because it was like two So my girlfriend caused me in the morning, She's like, we just got down the shore. And then she's like, she gives me a call. She dropped me off in my shorehouse. She was at her shorehouse. She's like, oh, I'm gonna pick you up, and it's like, let's go walking. I'm like, are you crazy. It's eleven thirty twelve o'clock. I'm like, it's like so hot now.

Because we would walk first thing in the morning to get it out of the way, and I'm like, you're crazy. Now I don't even I'm like, I'm not gonna walking right now. So late, like it's so hot out, I'm like I'm not doing it. She's like, get your ass going, let's go. I'm like all right. So she like, you know twists, you know, like I like a girlfriend that like pushes you. You know, I don't know anything about

that either. Yeah, so I'm like all right. So we went and then like me and my two other girls, it was Rosanna and Dana. We went walking and as we're walking by, I'm pointing at the um Louis and like he was, I was putting out this white range Rover with black rims, and I'm like, oh my god, look that guy has my card that I that I got rid of lash because I got a new Range Rover. And I'm like, oh, that guy has my car that I got rid of. I was just pointing and saying

because we had the same car. And and then he waves, so he waves, and then um Dana is like my girlfriend, the married girlfriend now, so you know, she goes She's like, oh my god, I'm gonna go talk to him, like what are you doing? So she goes across like you know that I don't know if you guys know, the right in the middle there's grass, so she starts walking towards him. So they both meet in the middle where the grass part is, you know. So then me and Rosanna on the other side. So the two of them

were talking and then I feel bad. I'm like, oh, I'm like, ro let's go by her. I feel bad. She's just we just left her by herself. So then we go by her. And then oh, I went by him, and then um and then oh yeah, Rosanna came with me too, and then I introduced myself on the caim Tresa, everybody introduced themselves, and then that was that. They were kind of done talk. And he had two business cards on him and he goes this, well, you know, my

name's Louie. And then he was his son. He was so cused with the sun there and then um, he gave me a business card and he gave Dana business card and that was it, and then we keep walking and then um um we keep walking and then he comes pulling up with his car with his son and his girlfriend in the backseat, and he goes like this, He goes, my son wanted to know why I didn't asked for your number, Teresa, and that's how I like, yeah, yeah, And then I was embarrassed to give my number in

front of his son and son's girlfriend. So I said, well, I have your business card, I'll text you. And then my girlfriend Dana said give me your friend. Then after we laughed. After he laughed, right, my girlfriend Dana took my phone said give me your phone, and she texted him from my phone and said and gave my number, and that was in. It was history ever since that night, we talked on the phone for hours, like and every

each night. That's how I was bay On Babil. I love that Melissa had and our first sorry, and our first two walks were I mean, our first two days were walks. Yeah, he came to I met him on a Friday morning. He came down the shore that Monday morning. We took a walk. Then he sent me flowers to my short house and then my kids are like, who's that? You know those? Because the flowers are so beautiful. And then our second day we went walking. I took him

on a seven mile walk. Wait, and he pulled his so ad, he's so ad, and he said he couldn't he's like so I was like because he running that morning and he's like he hold is so ad. So he was like at a commission for like three days from now, Like it it took a few months, it really did, Like I think three months Yeah, before that happened.

Yeah was it? Like I mean I just think that's beautiful because I mean I know from the show, Um, you know people were saying that your first X was cheating on you, and um so my my my ex husband had a couple of affairs, and um, I think like finding the next love is always kind of like hard because you're so cautious at least I am, like, I'm so like scared to be like this is that going to happen again? Am I gonna get fooled? Is

like the you know. And it's also always love hearing stories where it's like you just you gave your heart and he's a good guy. And I think that's a beautiful, beautiful story. Thank you. Um Can I just add like did you catch him cheating? Yeah? Yes, I mean it was. I would love to know. I would love to because like I just want to clear something up with about my ex. Sure, I never I never caught him cheating and trust me, girls, I'm the type that if I

call him cheating, I would be done. Like I'm not giving you a second chance. I don't care if we have four kids. I'm not that tight. That's just me, you know, to each his own. You know, listen, if somebody forgives, God bless them, if they can move on by that, God bless them. I was never I'm not that tight. Once you stick your peeping and somewhere, can I say that, you can say penis, Yeah, yeah, I just want to take it. I want to have a very note that I want to. You can say your

dirty to just use Can I use peep? I'm like, yeah they do. I'm like burning all the time. She's like it's okay. I'm like I have a three year old. Like we talked about peeps. Yeah, I don't know a real good So if you if he stuck his peep and someone else, you're done. But like I'm having a good Yes, I'm done. Like there was no second chances. No, No, that's just me. You know, listen, I know there's women that you forgive and God bless them. If they can

move on, that's good. You know, coud us to them. I just can never do that. So I just want every like because I want to put it out there that I never call my ex cheating. There was two women that um I had I thought something, but um I confronted them and you know, they both said no. The one started crying hysterical. She's like, how could you say that? And I was like, well, listen, you know, because you guys speak a lot, like I just want

to know. And the tabloids did take their picture. They were they were in this place in the city, and Joe didn't even tell me about it. But then, this is why I believe Joe, because he was in his work close and he's and we were gonna that's when we were going through all legal troubles and he had met with her because he wanted her to testify in court. So I believed him, so I did, you know, I did believe him, and and um so he's like, that's why I met with her. But I'm like, you should

have told me. And then, like, you see how people take pictures. So it's like, even if you wanted to get away with it, it's was kind of hard for him because we were in the public. Guy, but you know, what if he did do something with these two women, like they both denied it to me, Like if I was doing something with another guy, I would be like, yes, I am him, you know, I would say the truth.

We really escilated quickly from Pep. I mean, we have just moved, We've got some listen to this whole podcast world is new for me, but I like love it and I can't wait. So so in your gut, like you don't think that he didn't then cheated in my gut listen, because I think a woman's gut is like the most is the strongest superpower we have, and I think so, I'm not so sure that those women know

what You're right, but this was my thing. I did have four kids at the time, and I was like, I can't just go by my gut like I needed like how do you tell your kids, like um oh, I thought daddy was cheating, but like I didn't. I wanted proofs, like I wanted them to say yes I am or yes, like I have pictures. Because my ex boyfriend that I dated, like before Joe, I dated him for six years and I called him like I actually

call him. I spoke to the other girls. They showed me pictures like he was calling me, crying me, crying to me and saying, I missed you. I'm home Louis thanksgiving me while he's another girl in the Bahamas and the girls when your kids. Yeah, well anyway, and that girl showed me pictures of them being the Bahamas. Do you see what I mean? So it's like with this one, like they both denied it. So it's like, what do I do? So I believe Joe I did. I believed

him and co parenting. How is that? Has that been? Okay? It's great. Yeah, he's yeah, like you know, and my kids are really happy and I he you know, he's met Louie. Louise has been amazed, like Louis reached out

to him. We went to the Bahamas with him. Yeah, I mean Louise Louie is like I mean, like when he set it up the dinner with my ex because he deemed him and I didn't even know about it because we were going to Bahamas to pick up my youngest one because she had to go come home to go back to dance for competition, and he deemed him. I'm like, what what did you do? Like I'm freaking out like you am my ex for what. He's like,

We're gonna have dinner with him? I'm like yeah, He's like he's like, don't you understand, Like if we're I want to be good with Joe because it'll make the girls feel comfortable. Like I'm just saying, he's just like a He's a gem. He Melissa, have you did you watch the show before you and Teresa started working together? Yeah, I've seen. I mean I'm like a Bravo door. So you were like, just so, what do you so now

like working you know, doing this podcast together. What is something that you've noticed that like people don't see about Teresa. I think it's just all of them in general, I mean whomever it is, like an athlete or you know, off the court or someone like you know, Teresa. I think there's just more to you know, who they are, and you know, they're also putting in not typical situations, right like you're all crazy bitches together, you're drinking, you're drunk,

you're you know, emotions are running high. It's not a typical situation. And you know, we see a lot of fighting across the board from anyone if anyone obviously watches Housewives. It's not just Teresa, It's like across the board. So I get that. Um, you know, my husband works in entertainment. I've seen the behind the scenes with his clients and people that he has. So I'm always not one to judge a book. I have been judged a lot based on my appearance or whatever. What are people? What are

people judging? What do they say about me? I'm so I'm a I'm also a Stanford met sort of fighting autritionist. I've worked out my whole life. I've played sports my whole life. Um, you know, if you're if you're too heavy, then you're shamed. Right. If you're fit or thin, then you have an eating disorder and eat a burger or the blonde from l A. I'm not from l A like I am a nutritionist. I just like to work

out and stay healthy. So I mean people, I have two kids that are under five, so you know, the judgments are always there. I'm the last one to do that. I want to take the person for how they are and make my own assessments. And Teresa other people have not been cool with to me. I can tell you that from the Housewives, they're just in general Teresa from the get go was nothing but sweet, open, kind like genuine, so right off the bat, then I'm like, Okay, this

is someone not gonna be cool with. She's not fake, bit Like I can't handle that. Um and she was just always amazing right off the bat. And there's a lot more than everyone sees and hears. I love that. And and and then on Amastate Bitches, what are you guys wanting with that podcast? Like who are you bringing on? What are you guys talking about? And then why should wind down? Listen to namast Bitches? Right after this? I

mean true, let me and then you go true. I mean I think we listen because this is exactly it, right, Like, you don't hear these stories. You don't know these stories, you don't you don't see a lot of the Teresa behind the drawing up during on someone's face, or flipping a table right or fighting with a freaking sister or brother, Like, there's so much more to it. There's so much more.

Do you know things about me personal life? Maybe what we've been through, what you've been through your hard times, maybe I've been through it, And so there's a lot of that out there that I think that we need to tell people and talk about that can help other people do. I mean, that's why are you on your platform right to talk about very serious personal things that have happened, the great things that have happened, being a mom, being on TV, you know, doing things, physical abuse, you know,

all those things. So I think there's a lot more to both of us and people could ever imagine, and it's good for us to get it out there. It's good to help people to do it. Uh. And it's real and it's raw and it's not bullshit, and it's not safe, and it's not scripted and not saying Housewives is scripted, but I'm just saying it's just real, raw who I am and who theresas that you would never see by watching a show or reading some freaking tabloid. Yeah. Yeah,

I mean, I'll just a that's something real quick. I mean, I feel like I was given this platform for a reason. UM. So many people come up to me and tell me, UM, like you're so inspiring that you know, um that if it was you know that everything I've been through there, like you've gotten me so much that they had cancer I helped them get through with UM, Like so many things, surgeries, so many things. So it's like I'm like, okay, I

get it. Maybe you know this is why I was given this platform because you know I have been through so you know, like hard times and you know we all have. So if if I could help you know a few people out there, I would love to do that, like or encourage them to be strong and to keep it going and to not give up. Um, I want to do that. And there's so many doesn't everybody listening.

When you hear me yelling at Theresa which she's covering the camera, I personally can't dogs to start barking in the background and have her young girl help her with how do we just got her face or got her finger back on? O'm sorry sack. Every day, well you know today is um young ppor so my children at home so it's a little crazy, but you know I'm a real mom, so and they have like they're all home, drive me here, drive me there. I'm like, you know,

I'm still I'm an uber driver. That's my second job, a reality I think it's important to say though too, because we started the show about like you know, I was kind of struggling like with purpose and then like you know, just um the platform, like why certain things happen to certain people. And I think you know with everything you've gone through, everything that you guys have both

gone through. I mean now it's like now you have the platform, You're on the show, you're talking about how to you know, have a redemption story with a marriage and like Kristen, like with your miscarriages and you know, and everything else that you go through. Like you're like, we all have gone through things to be able to help that one person. So it's like, yeah, there's for the for the you know, a couple of thousand people bad mouthing us on a on a forum, it's like

it's the and I'm like, I'm done with this. I'm not I don't want to do this anymore. I want to get on Instagram. It's the one person that comes up to us and says, hey, you're sharing your abuse story, saved my life or X Y and Z, And it's like that's where I'm like, Okay, there is a reason why.

And it's like, yes, people are going to pick apart every word we say, every word you say, but it's at the end of the day, there will be someone that actually knows your heart, here's your heart, and it helps. So we have a say in our house, truth over volume. So that's just where I keep my heart, Truth over volume. You know what. One, I'm sorry about your miscarriages, but it's again more things. Maybe you don't know that we've been throwing, but let's say you've been through that awesome.

I was gonna say, the odds are one of more than just me has right right one. And and it's just you know, for Teresa, as much as you might hear, it's sometimes I'm like, do like what even shocks you? Like what gets to you? Because I mean like you were just saying, like I'm done with this, the comments, the trolls, just the nastiness, Like that's not our jam at all. I mean, I can't even tell you how many conversations we've had about this podcast and how do

we do it? What do we do when we make it about and everything that comes out in math is like I wanted to be positive. I wanted to be like just like uplifting in this and that. And for as much as you think she gets, I just I'm like, doesn't that get to you? And she's like not, I mean nothing gets to this woman where I would probably I mean now anymore, I wouldn't, but it's it's it's quite amazing that like nothing really gets to her. I mean, trust me, bigs do get to me. That's why Margaret

was wearing everything on the table like that. You know. But I you know, I have been working on myself, like I never believed in a therapist. And you'll see season three that, um, you know I do because you know what, a lot of people were triggering me. You know, we're trying to come after me, of course because I'm the o G and it gives him a platform. And I was just like I need to, like I don't

want to get triggered anymore. Mean, but I don't pay attention to people on the Instagram, like the comments on yeah, any of that, I just ignore. I'm you know, I'm not on it that watch. Um whatever I see, either I blocked the person, I delete it, or I just ignore. Those are the three things I do. But like, I have been working on myself to like, you know, to not try to feed into the negativity and to just you know, like in real life, like try to ignore

all that nonsense. So I love it. Well, ladies, You're amazing. I'm excited to listen to No Misty Bitches because it's just a place uplifting. I know it's going to be fun. Yeah, we could both, you know, I would love to both learn from each other, like you know, and like I love that, you know, like and I want to hear your podcast. My Inner Table Flipper honors your Inner Table Flipper. Yeah,

I mean, you know what the rest or the Pope. No, but my thing is everyone has it in them, like absolutely, if it needs something a lot to someone and you're trying to hurt that person, it's just you know about everybody, everybody's different like with that. This is my this is like at it was my love. Like I met Louis, I fell in love with him, like I adored him, and I cure, someone's trying to hurt someone that I

loved and it you know, and it bothered me. So I mean, and then the last time was one of my dear friends when I when I did the table flip, it was Dina and she was you know, like I knew she she wasn't a fighter, and and I was there, you know, Danielle was going after Dina. And then that's when I went, like, I was like, stop this, and I just like, I don't know, like I remembered like that whole table fi thing happened like when I was younger, and like my dad would get our attention that way.

So I was like, I need to get this bitch like quiet down, you know. And that was it. And I figured that, you know, I say, you know, I don't know, it was just it happened. I wasn't even thinking about it, wasn't you know, premeditating it. And that was it and I got her attention. Well good for you, all right later as well, if you're ever in Nashville, hit us up and we can wind out literally all right. Thank you, ladies, appreciate you, thank you, thank you so much