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Love Taps

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What kind of parent are you?? Indulge their every whim or tough love and make them earn it ?


Jana and Mike don’t necessarily agree but the conversation allows Jana to reveal a secret she’s kept from her own mom for decades.

 

Country legend Clint Black and his wife actress Lisa Hartman are fresh off The Masked Singer as the “snow owls” and you won’t believe what they had to do to fit inside the egg! After years of working together both as performers and as husband and wife, Clint and Lisa have some words of advice for Mike and Jana. 

 


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Find Out and podcast. So something happened to me the other day in the parking lot that I want to bring up. Oh, it's parking lot etiquette. Parking lot etiquette. Oh, I know one of them the um what's those things called? Oh, the shopping carts. If you don't return your cart the buggy as some people would say parts of the country, that's like a southern southern Oh I've never heard that before. Okay, so what's your thing. Well, first of all, we can

touch on that. I'm good because you're that one. Well, now it's so annoying put them away. Now, it's so frustrated. I hate when people don't put away the shopping carts in the designated spots, when they just leave them in an empty parking space. That drives me insane. Well, and so I've conditioned Janna to start walking back the shopping cart because before it's hard with kids though, that's why either put them in the car and then do it. Great, So then you leave the kids in the car. Well,

here's the thing. I always bought. Park close to one of those, like next the spot next to it, or two spots or cross from it. Um, I I don't know what it is. It's just I will tell you. The other day though, when I was at Whole Foods, I was putting my card away and I took the cart from the older lady who was also bringing it that way, look at you, good Samaritan. I just kind of shook my head. I was like, oh, this just

feels weird. This is not who I am, um. But no. So I was leaving home Depot, which I feel like Home Depot parking lots are way too tight for the yeah, the trucks that are there and the reasoning that people are going there. And it's funny because I was I parked to the far end to where like the lumber x It is because I'm going to get lumber for the playhouse thing them building, and so it's a lot of trucks. Like in this section that I'm parked, I have,

you know, a bunch of wood in the back. So I don't have my backup camera, which we've all gotten a little dependent on, right Like who even looks in their mirrors anymore? I still try to, but still, so I'm backing up and my cameras like beeping at me because it's facing the ground. Because my tailgates down so I can't really see completely and give a little love tap to the truck behind me in another spot whoops, whoops. And I was like, ship, did I just hit a car?

So I pulled up a little bit, got out and looked. I mean nothing. It was literally a love tap, no scratching, nothing, but really though, like that's something like it could be buffed out. Let me lick my finger and grab it out a little bit, grab a grab a sharpie from the car was on. It was one of those two where like in case someone saw me, I was like almost like acting out that it was okay, like I

wish people could see me. I was like, oh, okay, yeah, it's good, like okay, everything's okay, like just pretending that someone was looking at me. Um. And I drove away and but then I was like leaving. I was like, man, should I still left the note? Should have still said hey, I love tapped your car? But it was all good x o x ou, I'll let your board board. Um, No part of me like felt still a little guilty,

like maybe I still still of left it out. But what would you have said, like to whom it may concern, to the to the black I don't know mc GMC or four GMC, those are two different cars. Um, Like, yeah, what would you have said? I don't know. I don't even know. I just felt a little bit of that guilt. And I'm like, man, what was but guilt for what? Because it didn't it did nothing. You didn't hurt anything, I know, but still I like you felt like you violated their car a little bit, A little bit, I

don't know. I mean, I know I didn't do anything wrong, but still it's one of those things, like to what extent. Obviously, if there's any damage, even a scratch, I would have been straight up and been like written on something and left form, Hey I did this. Here's my name and number. Give me a call in order giving a fake phone number. Have I'm just kidding, UM, But you feel guilty because because I wasn't able to tell a person, and like I wish I could have told them, but they came

in or woman, I love to have your truck. Uh, my bad, It's all good. I don't know what are you struggling with. I'm struggling with the fact that if you left your name and number, they would find another scratch on their car. And be like, no, man, he sides with my car. Your head would go there, my car is totaled. Actually yeah, and you owe us five million dollars. Well, if someone did that, there's no way they could prove it. So I'd be like, I don't

know what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. That's interesting. I mean obviously if you had some kind of scratch or some something that happened to the car and then you left, like, I'm like, yeah, you should for sure feel guilty. That's that was the wrong thing to do. But because you didn't do anything to the car, in my mind's like you went out and looked, that's beyond any like not many people would probably get out of the car and look maybe peace. And that's what

I did to my grandparents car. I was in high school. It was snowing, and my grandparents had just come to visit us, and I wasn't used to having a car behind me. So I'm running late. I think it was my senior year and it was still you know, it was six like, and I again I was running late, running late, and so I get in the car and I just straight up reverse and floor it. Stop the crunch that I heard, and I just was like shut

and I didn't know what to do. I just like froze because like, you know, my Grandpa's so sweet, but at the same time, you don't want to mess with them either at that time of his age. And so I just went forward and turn my car and went straight to school. What happened when they when they found out when they came out and saw their car, It's like, wait a second, how did someone hit the front of our car when we're punked in the triveway? So I called my mom from school and I was crying and

I was like, I hate grandma Grandpa's car. And they're like, oh, they know, they heard it, they saw you peel away. I was like, are they mad? Oh my god, I'm so sorry. I just couldn't confront them. I was running late for school. I can't even imagine. So that's there was some damage done and it wasn't like crazy damage, but there was a good amount of damage to both cars.

That's really, really, really funny to me. So, I mean, I eventually told, but I feel like there's a lot of people that would if they hit they would just go. You're like Grandma and Grandpa, I don't know what happened. I mean, it was bad. Are you sure? You're like you sure when you guys pulled in you didn't hit the rear end of my car. They're a little senile and or they would be like, whoa guys, easy, easy on the you know init or whatever, not inhale. But

you've never been funny. If I if I were backed in and hit that truck and there's a scratch on my car but not on theirs, and I left the note and be like, hey man, I backed India and I gotta scratch my car. Let's exchange information. Oh please, you still have a scratch on your car from the time that you went to McDonald's in Los Angeles. I will forever haunt me. McDonald's will forever haunt me. You shouldn't have gone. Shouldn't have gone, Garma, just the big

man upstairs saying stop eating McDonald's. No. But I think to circle around, I think it's really sweet that you did that. You have the conscious conscience, conscience, conscience to feel bad about that even though you did nothing wrong. Easton talked to me, help me, I need any more details about that, about that McDonald's scratch. Did you misjudge the drive through? What happened? No, it's the one that's on Sunset and Laurel Canyon. Yeah, and you have to

it's like the tunnel drive through. Yes, yes, we're going to fight that day. Probably. That's like I eat my feelings just like you think I remember something happening near Like I'm gone McDonald's. No, I was. I was already out and about because I wouldn't have gone over the hill to go go to that McDonald's. I was on my way home McDonald's. Yeah. So I went through that tunnel of death drive through that a motorcycle can barely

fit through with my big old truck. And I'm like, you just and you just see the remnants of scrapes all down that tunnel. I'm like every car in here, it's like, what you do? You just scraped the side or scraped the pole or I'm like, who built this? This is terrible Eastern What would you do if you love tap somebody and either made a mark or made a no mark? I mean, this is a safe space right where, this is a cone of honesty. I gotta be honest if there's no mark and nobody saw it.

I'm jetting. I'm not I'm not doing anything. I'm gonna get out. What if what if there was a mark and nobody saw it. That's the thing, and nobody saw it, you know what you would do? You would leave. I can see it in your face. It depends on how big the mark was. Uh yeah. I like to think that I that I would leave a note, but in reality, I probably would justify it by going like, well, you know your car has been hit a bunch of no one left to know. This is just you put in

the karma back into the world. That's messed up. Though I should, I should be more honest. But if it was a small it was like shorter than a pencil scratch, I probably would just leave if no one saw it. Yeah, that's really funny. Don't park. No, don't remember that. One time my ex friend came back and wrecked my car and said that He's like, you could clearly tell that he hit a pole, Like you could for sure tell he hit a pole. And he's like, I don't know

what happened the car. Somebody must have hit me. I'm like, that is a white pole. And I was like on the on the we're on our way to them. Yeah, And I was kind of defending him because I still didn't know him that well and Jane was lightening him up, lighting him, but I could tell he was lying. I knew him right, Jane has been was friends with him for like ten years. So I was like, hey, easy, like you don't know, like, let him make some easily. She's like, no, I know him. He's lying, and come

to find out, he definitely did. Yeah. It's like the pole did not just come attack my car. Whoever was driving pulls have minds of their own. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no driving. It's so funny that how you do rely on that backup camera. So yeah, but I want to get like a Ford Escort when the kids get older and are driving, because that's like the card. That's the card my sister drove, and that's the car I learned how to drive stick on. I want the kids to

be able to drive stick and use their mirrors. Here's a question for you. Are you the parent that gives your kids a car or makes them work for it? You're asking me you gotta work for it. That's not what you said, You're that's not what you said. What do you mean you totally changed your answer. Here's you totally change. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. You're like, Well, if they're playing sports and they're you know, if they look I will. I don't want to help them out

with a car. If they're just sitting on there but going to school coming home, and that's it. If they're working, or they have a lot of extracurricular activities including sports, and so they don't have as much time to earn money for a car, whatever it may be, they can influence online through a couple of swipe ups. Um, I'm willing to help them out. And if they are working in other ways, they just have to be a productive person. See, that's just gonna be really hard for me because I

had to buy my own car. Like, I think there's something so some work, like the work ethic behind paying for your own car. I'm like, Okay, my parents don't have the money to get me a car. I have to work for my car. You know. I don't know. I just think there's something that was that. I think that was the moment that for me in my mind created the oh crap, if I'm if I'm gonna want something in my life. I have to work for it, you know, And I think that's where like the beginning

of where my work ethic came from. That makes sense, Yeah, I know it does. You Know what I'm curious about with Jolie and Jason's I wonder if they're going to want a driver's license when they turned sixteen, you know, because I've met so many kids like my parents that say, like my kid's eighteen and he has no intention of getting his license, Like they just feel like that sense of freedom that came with it, Like like when we were sixteen, that was everything, you know, like that's all

I wanted. But now it's like, hey, man, let me sit in my room. I got this, you know, like I can hang out with my friends here. I don't need to do that. And like, like my wife didn't get her driver's license until she was six. I taught her how to drive, which is a weird thing to do. Why didn't want she she just didn't see a need for it. And then at a certain point she was like, I'm kind of afraid of it, Like I don't I don't want to be behind this not you know, two

thousand pound torpedo. Uh. And then we moved to l A. And she's like, oh, I gotta get a license now, but um, yeah, and you know, and she's she's the same age as me or in our thirties. But I just feel like there's gonna be a whole generation of kids that are like they have to be like pushed by their parents to get their license because it's like it's a pain in the ask, you guys, know, like,

but but also it opens up the whole world. Oh absolutely, And I mean, like you said, Eastern when are generation. It was like I got my permit the first day I was eligible, I got my license, Yeah, exactly, whatever it was fifteen and three months sixteen, Like I was that day. I was making sure I got everything I needed to. So the day I turned sixteen and whatever

it was, I was out peace see you. So that that is interesting though, especially with ride sharing and and being able to hang out with your friends, you know, with your phone and all of that. When we drove to our friend's house, what do you guys remember the

first time you drove? Yes, tell me. I got my driver's license and then I borrowed I didn't have a car at the time, so I borrowed my mom's car, and I remember her saying, the gaslights on, but you still got like thirty miles out of it before you have to go get gas. But so uh. And I remember like being able to pick whatever music I wanted was a really big deal. And I went and picked up my girlfriend from school and we went to I

think we went to McDonald's. Then I brought her back to her house and I drove home and I was like, I was I was five, I was sixteen, and so was she. It was all above board. I was I was the first of my friends to get the driver's license, and it was, you know, I gotta I bought myself a red Ailero um and I I told my mom. I was like, I'm just going to pick up Lisa, like just me and Lisa. I had eight girls packed in my red Alero. We're going to seven eleven to

get slurpees. And then I didn't. I probably told my mom like the truth about a few years ago. I was like, you no, no, there was there was about eight girls in that car, like we were just bumped into like in sing getting slurpees. It was I drove to work. I was a lifeguard because it was the summertime that I was able to get my license, and yeah, I had to go to work to go to the pool. I go tore my whistle memory lane here whistles. You guys get your license? Did you get the first time?

Did you have to retake the test first time? Or I'm not gonna lie. I think I cheated in Um however, well because like driver's at okay, driver's a yeah, yeah, yeah, um, but now I failed a few times. Probably it's so tricky you know there, it's like they make it they really second guess. Yeah, it's like you know, they make you second guess. I don't. I've never been a good test taker. That's the thing. My teachers would always say, she's really smart, she's um, well, I would know what

they say, really smart. But I was never a good test taker. I think the questions or the other options, and like, well that could potentially maybe be the next, the other the other. Maybe you should have been a lawyer or a politician. Okay, super excited because today's guests we have Clint Black and his wife Lisa hartman Um coming on the show. Clint Black is like, oh my god, I mean talk about high school and live in the good old days. He's one of the biggest country stars ever. Um,

so excited to have him on the show. And before that, let's take a break. All right. We have two huge legends on our show today that we're very excited to talk to you about a lot of different things. We have the one and only country superstar Clint Black and then successful music artists and actress Miss Lisa Hartman. Welcome to wind down. Oh my goodness, it's so nice to talk to you guys. Um Hey, a little fun fact. She was supposed to play my Mom, which he was

to be the general Welcome Home Christmas. That didn't happen because you said you didn't want to act. Clint, you told me you didn't want to act. Well, that was one part of it was I wasn't ready to jump down. I had a lot of other things going on, including might ask oh, So that's why we couldn't say yeah. We couldn't say it was so hard. I love the role, I love the whole thing. It was so sweet, and

I love the general. I want this this guy anyway was this guy because they weren't going to be together. I'm at home now, I'm this guy at home that created when he read that scrip that's his client. Well it would have been fun. But maybe the next one will we can do that. Um, how is filming the Mass Singer? It was? It was grueling. It was it was TV. You know, it was you know what I'm used to, you know, being out on tour. You you go on your routine and when it's time to go on,

you go on. But in TV, of course you uh, in this case, you put on an owl costume and you start sweating immediately, go and get in an egg that you can't walk round in and you have to move across the stage in it, and you know, break your leg, almost fall off the stage, and then you don't.

Your heart rate goes way up and then you sing just little stuff like that crazy and uh, and so you're just and of course, you know, once the taping starts, they have to turn off the AC units in the sound stage because they make a noise and you feel

it instantly, and now you're really sweating. And then the judge panel starts talking and everybody says what they and then Ken goes into his long diet tribe and and you know, I lost five pounds just every time Ken talked, so you know, it was it was strange and and different and you know, unbelievable. I've always wondered, did you guys do do the contestants? You guys get to pick your costume at all. So yeah, we we well, they

showed the first one and we didn't love it. We said, you know, we really like to go more in this direction. And they came back with the second one and it's amazing. Yeah, they sent a sketch in the Faberge egg and the whole thing, and we were just we fell in love instantly. And then when we got to the set, they brought us in early to see if we could, you know, so we could get used to the egg, see if we could fit. And we're thinking, you know, and it

was really tricky. The thing opens up right, and you go in and they zip tie you in, and you've got handbrakes and these bars, and the thing has a mind of its own. I mean, you want to go this way, and it's like you also have stage hands who have minds there and a stage manager who wants to have control of their minds and our minds, and he's moving over here. Here we go. You feel like

Fred Flintstone with his little toes in the car. It's true in the little egg, it's going to be a broken ankle here you just your human puppet that at that moment, Yeah, it was that. It was you know, so you you you suit up, get the thing in. You know, youve got to sing live. You get any egg you get, you go down the layer. Now you're on your mark. You think, no, we're not on the mark. We had to get on the market is all this stuff you can't see and go, you know, and you're like,

oh my gosh. And then you finish and you're relieved and you hope you've done a great job or a good job. And then Ken goes off and then there's Kenny Well. I remember when dirt was first invented? Do you guys? So the Mass Singer has been a huge show. I think too much surprise to a lot of the masses. And now that you guys have been on it, what do you think from an internal perspective? Has been the major draw to to this show because you look at it on paper and it's kind of like and this

isn't gonna be anything, and it's been huge. It's positivity it's it's all positive, uplifting everybody coming to the whole family. And uh and and now with this new season where they had to adapt, you know, you've got all this animation involved and uh, I think you know, any generation can enjoy it. But there's also you know, it's a competition and that's what we like, right. Yeah. But did you ever think you'd be dressing up and like the

costumes like this, like thirty years ago. Did would you really be like, oh, wow, I'm gonna be dressed up in this One day? You get the email and you look at it and you go listen to this email. Uh, you know, because we're lucky, we get you know, lots of offers to do things and uh, and then this one comes in. Okay, oh man, can you believe that? And then we looked at each other like maybe we

should do that. And then it was meanwhile, I'm pressuring you to be in my movie and you're like, I'm about to go be an owl, but I can't tell you to everyone. You guys were the first duo are going the mass singer? Did you think that was uh, you know, beneficial like in your in your wearhouse to be like, hey, this is an advantage or do you think it was a disadvantage. Well, we love the idea

of working together doing something together. We all we've done a lot of things together, um, but this was definitely completely new to both of us, which was kind of fun because we were both on the same level of you know, not knowing anything and and facing the same challenges.

And there were some advantages and some disadvantages. Uh, advantages as you know, we've got these these harmonies we can work in and we're two characters interacting with each other up there, um, and uh, you know, some of the disadvantages were you know, the song selection was much harder when you're choosing a duet. Can you know, does it fit us? Does you know, will the key work, the melodies work? You know, can we both hit these um

as it? You know? Can we try it down? Will it still be competitive if we try up it down and lose you know, of the song? And then uh, you know, we couldn't work the stage. We were pretty much confined to that egg. We were going to break out of it um eventually, but I didn't get there. So I think all in all, the advantage disadvantage. It kind of wighs it weighs itself out and balances out. We both felt like, you know, we were so probably

wouldn't have done it alone. I mean, I don't know, it's hard to look back, but we were just so it was so much fun to be able to do it together and share some kind of experience like that together. And that's what I was gonna say, you know, with you know, obviously, my husband and I we worked together to just like you guys do, and there's so much to be said, like, you know, and I would go out and perform I missed, you know. I like performing with my husband now and having our kind of show

and doing our stuff. But there's challenges that come along with that as well, working with your spouse. So I'm curious what is some of the biggest challenges that you guys have had to face working as a couple. It's really hard for her. I'm always right, Clint, you and I suffer from the same thing. Then it's unbelievable. No,

you know, I don't we have Maybe we're lucky. I don't know we were we yeah, we are lucky, of course, but I mean we tend to be very in tune to the other ones like if I'm having a moment, he'll just back off and vice versa. Right, and we have moments. You know, it's like in thirty years, I go the cake because baked. We know each other so well and we're very considerate of each other. That's one thing we all people say, how do you do? One word?

Consideration and communication? We talk about everything. We never leave anything unsaid. We deal with it right then. Trust me, never leaves anything. Oh, Michael just told me they're not You always have to have a feeling about something, and I'm like, well, I just gotta express what I'm going through. You just have to listen. I go, where you listening?

And now who go? No, I'll make a cup of coffee in the morning and uh and she'll she'll she'll saying something and three minutes later, I see all I said. It was a good morning. It makes me think of the the old joke. You know. Uh, my wife just said to me, you know, you haven't been listening to a word I've said, And I thought to myself, what a strange way to start a conversation. So good, Oh, listen,

I just don't always like what comes out. Well, yeah, that's just the way it is, so you know, but we love each other when it all satting down, we love each other, and you love each other. And two people, two people building their lives together, living together, you know you're going to We figured it out. You you look out for the things that irritate and annoy and embarrass and frustrate, and then I just stopped doing them. And

that's how it works. Well. You know, it's funny because we were just having this conversation trying queer, I'm trying, and he's just like, there's He's like, I just feel like there's always something you got to say that I'm you know, not doing right or doing wrong, and you know, and he's like, and I'm kind of like, we'll just don't do him how you say it, and I'm sure you're kind, you know, I mean, nobody likes Husbands are used to hearing things put a certain way that they

can adapt to, Like your stupid idiot, no like that you really want to hear it that way so that you can know. I think you said early on, which I think is really golden, and we've said it to Lily, our daughters, and I can't remember exactly. Always I Butcher. You say it so well, but it's basically, if if you if I've hurt your feelings, what is it? What's it? You can't blame a blind man for stepping on your toes.

I mean, once he's there and you'll let him know, and if he doesn't get off, you can start to blame him. But you know, when you when I mean all our years of marriage, I mean we could be out with friends, or can be a look across the room, you know, and if it makes you feel something, you know, bring it up later and just you know, say, hey,

you know you looked at me that way. You know I felt like, you know, it was kind of I was stepping in something and you know you gave me that look and just like, oh no, I was just trying to hold in a burb you know, or whatever. It could be anything. It doesn't if you if you assume the best, then you give your maid a chance to explain what was really going on. If you assume the worst, then you can live with that sort of resentment. And Roy Rogers, when he found out we were getting married,

said I'll give you one piece of advice. Don't ever go to bed angry and I've read you know, psychology books, and and one of them they said the same thing in a very complicated way, which was, if you have marks of drop some mercury on a table, that this is one emotion, one event, right, and then a day later, there's another drop that comes along, and then another one a day later, a week later, another one, and and

mercury joins together into a single blob. So you can't separate it out days later and identify that one thing. So you have to keep clearing it off the table as you go. And if you do that, then you will grow together and you'll you'll start to realize, you know it really uh, you know irritates me when she burns the chicken. She knows that now she won't do that anymore. Now there there there are things that we're going to do that are going to irritate each other. You.

I don't care if your brother and sister, if you have a business partnership, or you're a married couple, um whatever, the two people can't live together without that. You can't because we're humans. So um, you know it's you gotta just kind of as you go say you know, hey, when you did that, that kind of made me feel bad. Okay. I like what you said about assuming assuming the best

instead of assuming the worst. And I think both of us are guilty at times, at more of the of the ladder of assuming the worst, of just making up that the worst case scenario. They're thinking this or they're thinking that, or when probably more times than not, it's not the case her heart and she knows your heart, right, I will say to him, I know who you are. I know you didn't mean that, but it sounded kind of I know you're not stupid, you just act that way.

You're sure you do know each other's hearts. You know what's in your heart, deep in your heart. You know you know what I'm saying, and it's okay to say. Look, I know who you are, I love you, and I know what your heart. I know you and I know you didn't mean it that way, but it sounded a little funny when and it kind of hurt my feelings, you know, And that's when you run out there and I work really really hard at coming up with and I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You have a therapy session. I

know how do hum street you for this therapy? A lot A lot relationship or heart though, you know, and after thirty years, you know, we you know, and we've had friends who you know, it didn't work out, and you know, there's never really anything you can do. Um, you know, it's it's just a it's just a really you have to work really hard growing together and not a part. That's it. And what do you and you think that to to not have that happen is to just communicate and do all the things to to over

communicate and express your feelings. Yeah, here comes out over communication we're talking about Michael. Yeah, no, I mean I think again it really boils down to you know, each other's hearts. That's really it's really that simple. You have to even you have to assume. You have to assume the best. We're both trying for the same thing and we're both going to fail at times and fall short. Well where what what area, Clint? Could you could you do?

Be a better husband? There's nothing nothing I can do? Oh boy, when you can't, I think every one of us, you know, Um, you know I zone out sometimes I don't ask enough questions. Um, you know it's a male female that's yeah, mature where we're just really not that interested in other people you want to get off the phone, and she'll say, well, what's happening with with your you know, brother, whoever you're talking to. I'll go, uh, did you ask?

Did you ask? It sounds like our conversation pretty much to the t. And then he gets annoyed for me asking the question. And I'm like, well, what is so what I do? I said, because I'm a I now we do things in our our therapists like, so he would get annoyed by my question. So now I'm just like, I'm I'm just tweeting. Are asking questions because I'm not. I'm just curious. I'm genuinely just curious. I'm not testing you. I'm not trying to find I'm just curious. I'm a

very curious person. I like to ask questions. I'm the same exact way, no bs, I hander a little piece of paper with the person's phone, and I think. I think it's the thing. Women want to talk about it, work through it, understand it, to analyze it sometime, lalla, and men just want to fix it and move on, you know. And I think that I'm gonna cry. I think you once you both, I'm serious. I think once you both accept that. You know, I'm crying for many reasons.

I'm not crying, Okay, I feel like i want to cry, but it's no, No, it's true. I mean I think once you accept that, it makes it so much easier. I think that's the emotion that's coming over me now. Once you accept that that's who, and that's a beautiful thing. That's a great thing because you're gonna need her to ask those questions about something many times in your life and he's and you're gonna need him vice for for

us to go. Okay, she'll say things, call me or call one of your girlfriends, right, and you're going, it's that's gonna you're gonna get to that place. And then you're going to do the other thing too. She'll save your life by asking one day, is that do you think you should have the gas can that close to

the fire pit? Well? No, maybe maybe not, you know, but the the other thing, you know that that you know, we know we know ourselves now, you know, and uh uh And so you know, if she starts with a bunch of questions, you know I can I can just tell her I'm really tired, test me, and we can laugh about it and I go away and we have to. You can't ask me now, you know, And so we make light of it, and uh, you know our daughter when you know, we'd be lecturing her and she'd just

be up. And I finally as said, you know, we do this because we love you. You're welcome. So now all I have to say is you're welcome. And it turns her. She relates it back to the whole point of it, you know. So it's uh, it's it's it's something that we all deal with and and it's and it's sort of accepting that it's going to happen and that it uh and that you have to you have to work it out. It's great to hear. You know.

You guys have a therapist. We have a an old friend who's just a really wise guy when it comes to parenting, and we can call him up and uh, he's like a therapist and you just you know, say, hey, what you go. When my kids were thirteen, they were really selfish. Yours is too, That's it, you know, and so you kind of get a different perspective. I love it well, clintonly, So we know you have a full day of stuff to do. We really appreciate it. We can probably cancel it. There are a couple of therapy

session tomorrow. I'm just I'm just gonna keep thinking. When Clint was like, man, we just don't like other people all that much. He enjoy yourselves. I always enjoyed myself the other people. That's right. Five years, five years, good for you, five years to kids and just a happy love story. That's right. Two kids, yeah, um, five and two. Come. You know what the secret is right to staying married? Don't get divorced. That's it, as simple as that, honey,

because you make it so easy. We got this, We got this. We have this song for you, guys. Some new duet I wrote for us. I don't I've done so many interviews. I don't know if I mentioned it earlier. So I wrote a new duet because we had so much fun on the masks and uh, and it starts off with I can tell you how the story never ends.

When is it coming out? It's a it's available for saving uh now, but it starts streaming on December three, and on the second we're doing a live concert at the Rieman streaming and uh, we'll do our new duet there. It's go to Clint Black dot com. You get the against You Knives with it and uh and then so that'll that'll be our shows there on December two, but you can go ahead and start getting there are some in person tickets. But you know how that's working, right,

I love it. Well, we'll see you there. Thank you everyone. Go to Clint Black dot com and get the new song duet. Love you guys so much. Thank you, and let's let's hang soon. Appreciate it alright, alright bye, Clint Black a better man. Ah, it's just too good. I would have told, like my high school self, I would be interviewing Pin Black wife, like come on, just yucking it up, like let's have let's have coffee. They're definitely

ones that I would hang out with. Yeah. Yeah, and like you said, like I would love to just sit and have a coffee with Clint and just have them tell me stories. Yeah, and saying his wife me and Lisa can just like ask each other questions. You two can be in one room just chirping away. Clinton. I will be in the other room just not saying a word, talking about yourselves. Another I'm great, are you? I'm great? All right? I don't like other people to me either.

That was hilarious to me. Hey, do we have any emails? All right? This is from Sydney. My husband and I got married in June. We've been together for a little over three years. He has a best friend who's a woman, and it's always been a little weird to me, but I've just dealt with it. I don't usually go through his phone, but I did the other day because it just happened to be right there. Her grandma passed away

and he was saying his condolences. He said he's there for that, he loves her, and he continued to check up on her over the next few days. She's married, and I don't think there's anything to be worried about. But isn't that her husband's job to be there for I talked with my husband about boundaries and asked if he could just include me in the conversations going forward

and no private messaging. He didn't give me a direct answer, but said he's going to need to tell her everything that happened now so she doesn't think he's an a hole. To me, that validates that he puts her feelings before mine. Is that how you see it or am I being insensitive? This is an interesting question, but no, I don't think what she's asking is insensitive. I think it's appropriate just

to be included in those messages. And I think if he you know, ultimately what matters are her feelings over his friends. But that doesn't mean he has to undermine his friends feelings and just text her and be like, hey, I mean, but that's hard too, because if he texts his friend and says, hey, just you know, for my wife for sending me to feel more comfortable, I'm just gonna include the three of us in a group chat. And then would would would Sydney feel weird that he

said that to her? Would the friend feel awkward? Because because now it's like this thing, because it's mentioned. Now it's a thing, you know what I mean, Like turning something nothing into something that's a hard one. The best friend things tough, especially with the opposite sex, just because you have to protect your other spouse. But you have to protect your spouse, but you still have that friendship. But if it's of the opposite sex, you can definitely

get jealous about that. If you're now I think if it's you know, his grandma passing away, and you've always been fine with it before, then I think there isn't anything fishy m So if it's if it's just kind of out of the blue and he continues to text her, then I you know, I think a few more check ins like hey, you good, like I know Mike would do the same if he if you know, if any of our friends people passed away, like checking on you,

making sure you're good. But beyond that kind of communication, I don't you know, if it becomes more intense, then I would have stronger feelings about it. But because it was the best friend before, you know, it is hit her grandma. But I can totally see you being like, hey, can I just see the messages so I feel more comfortable? I think that'd be fine to ask. Yeah, I would, and it is her husband's job to console. But I think a lot of people find comfort and friends too.

Yeah yeah, but if it bothers you, I would just be like, hey, for some reason, this is coming up for me and I'm starting to get like jealous and feels a little weird. So do you mind if I just look at your phone or see the messages? And I think that's a better compromise. Than being included. Yeah, I don't like the included thing just feels that rubs me weird, That's what I'm saying. That is uncomfortable. Then

you're taking nothing and turning it into something. I don't like that because then the friend feel awkward around Sydney and her husband, and then it's just like this, there's this tension in the year that. But you would think that they would be like friends though all of them, right, that's what they probably are. Maybe not like super close. Maybe they're geographically they live in different areas, but east and what we're gonna say, what what about this? Though? Uh?

What if like the wife or Sydney starts the group text between the three and says, like, you know, so

and so told me about your loss. I'm so sorry to hear that, Like you know, we're here for you if you need anything, and like starts that message that way, not by like announcing like by the way, I'm gonna be monitoring, you know, because I was thinking, like my wife and I we have group text with almost all of our friends just because so we're not doubling up on sending the same like dumb picture to you know, so the way, Yeah, and and you know, and it does.

It's not like neither of us have anything to hide or anything, but it does make it just easy to see the information that's being exchanged. Uh. And you know, I'm not saying that like they need to be like the three of them need to be the best their friends, but I think that might open up that idea of having like access to everything without it being this big announcement like that there's trust being broken or something like that.

So I don't know's I love that and it kind of makes her feel included in it too, while also offering her condolences, I'm sure, And so yeah, I love that. And if he's weird about that, then I would be like, so that's a great idea. The only obstacle I foresee

is Okay, that's great. But then maybe the best friend, just after this passes, goes back to texting just him because they're they're best friends, And so is it then is it Sydney's Husband's responsibility to be like, hey, text me and the chat, because then you're dealt with the same obstacle, you know what I mean? So, now if the if the best friend continues to text in the chain with with Sydney and the husband, then then that's great.

But there is that obstacle where if she doesn't, and I will say if I was the best friend's husband, like if you if you were going to a male friend, like you have more male friends female friends, like any of my female friends are your friends. So if you went to a male friend of yours and you were confiding in him about things that you haven't confided in me,

I'll be upset. Yeah, you know, and I would be too if you do the same right now, it's it's if you're doing it also, that's fine, But if you're saying things that you haven't told me, then yeah, tricky one. So I hope, I hope that helps Sydney. All right, that was an awesome show and great email to end it with. So, uh, why don't you give someone a nice little love tapping a little note. That's our challenge for the week. Love tap somebody on the butt and

leave him a note. All right, see you next week.

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