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We went to a roller skating party this morning for Jolie's friend, and the whole entire morning I was like, hey, babe, don't forget to wear socks. And I forgot that he always wear socks. But I brought Jolie socks and of course I forgot mine and we get there and I was like, ah, gosh, like I forgot to bring socks. And so I was like, all right, honey, Um, I I always know that he's just weird, but he always

wears two pairs of socks, and I know, right, that's weird. Um. And he wouldn't give me his one pair of socks. Why not. Look, everyone has their corks. Everyone thought it was weird by the way that you have two pairs of socks. It's not that weird. It's not like two pairs of under it right, Yeah, thank you, And that's my whole reasoning what former athletes, Okay, explain yourself. Look, when you're cutting and moving all the time, get blisters and stuff on your feet. So were two pairs of socks.

You're not running like a hundred yards or whatever. It was like, you're just walking from the kitchen to the living room. Have you chased Jolly around the backyard? Yeah, So maybe it's just me living out My glory is still But I wear two pairs of socks every day and you know that. But I wouldn't give her one because it's my thing, because I knew we had it.

So if it's like, I'm sorry, that really bothers me, Like you really truly and you he he made me go to a vending machine to get three dollar socks. I was like, I don't want to be three dollars on socks and he's like, I'm not giving you my socks. Are we really having an argument right here at the roller skating rink? You made an argument? You know that's non negoachable. It's not happening. It's my thing. So if I needed the parachute, would you give me the parachute parachute? Yes,

socks no, hands down? Tell me how that makes okay? But it's funny. So Janna talks about all right, that's my little cork. Right. So Janna as beautiful and lovely as she is, right, she's stunning. She's like a supermodel. It's ridiculous. The other day, we're in this new airbnb that's even smaller than our Los Angeles place that we had. It's about thousand square feet. Were crammed in there. We have one stink that we're sharing, and it's been a while since we brush our teeth at the same time.

And I walk in there and Janna comes in all dainty, takes her makeup off for some reason, she brushes her teeth like a troll, and then let's she's like a little kid learning for the first time. It just all falls out. She doesn't spit it out, it's just all constantly falls out. And then she's done, and watch your mouth. She's like, okay, and then she's back to being pretty and dainty. I'm like, who are you? And what bridge did you come out from? How do you brush your

teeth pretty. Just do it normal and spit every now and then you got it overflow out of your mouth into the sink. It's you're brushing your teeth. Who cares to each their Um? I know what I like? How like? How do you make it pretty? Like? We have the judge judge you on the way you brush your teeth. Wow, that's how we roll. Welcome to wind down, guys, getting real just apparently I'm just gonna I don't I don't know. Maybe you can teach me how to brush my teeth better.

I'll teach you, and I'll teach you how to share Jolie. So, first of all, this live podcast, this is actually a live podcast. We're recording this so this will air tomorrow. So you guys need to real quick make some noise right now. This is Aaron tomorrow. Come on everyone because this will be on I Heart Radio tomorrow. And we are very excited to be here and recording this with you um there. Because usually we don't record and we do the events, we we don't actually record them. So

this is this is a fun little treat. There is one thing that Janna has brought to my attention that so I'm not on any social media. I stay away from all that. Janna does it enough and shows our life. It's kind of basically like the family account. So she's been informing me recently, UM that the whole my deal breaker in our relationship has been kind of picked up a lot of places. What who would you say? Daily po?

Here's let me just rewind that that don't know. So when we did the live event like Evening with for wind Down UM, we were in New York and I was asking our guests, what's your marriage deal breaker? And so I asked the couple that we had on the Show's Arniac and Craig Melvin from NBC Today, and I said, what would be your marriage dealbreaker? And they they said there is And I said, actually, honey, I don't even know what your marriage deal breaker is it? What would

it be? And he said, uh, infidelity if you cheated on me. I heard. I heard that. So then I was like what And I kind of let it go a little bit, but then I brought it up on another podcast episode. I said, you know, it's something has really stayed with me and it's really bothered me. And he still defended it, and so I sat with it for a little while. Then I was talking to um.

Actually there was a I had did an event the other night and People interviewed me because I saw it was on Daily Pop it he had picked it up, US had picked it up, picked it up. And then the sweet interviewer from People had said, you know, how does that make you feel? And she was so nice about it, and I said, you know what, after this event, I'm going to go home and talk to him because it's still really bothering me, and it just it bucks me.

And so I went home and I was like, hey, you know something that you said at the you know that you've been defending has been picked up and here's the news outlets that's people are talking about. And I said, and it still really bothers me. So I was just wondering if maybe you could help me make sense of this because it hurts my feelings that, knowing as much work as we've done, you would just be like all right,

peace and not want to work on it too. When I've been there through the trenches with you and working through it. And I understand it wouldn't make sense because we've done so much work, But what what happens if I did, like, you would still like not fight as hard and I just really bothered me. So would you like to all secretly judging you right now? And one's like, oh,

what do you say right now? This is like a typical already, this is a typical episode of wind Down where it's like, oh, we're happy, happy, happy, gonna bring you down, Let's bring it back up. I'll bring you down. Um No. And what I told Janna and this is this is very genuine, very real, and you guys know who listened, how we get on the show and for me in that moment we were doing a live pod, asked we're interviewing this couple. I honestly I don't I

didn't really have one. When she asked me, like, what your deal breaker? I was like, the first thought came to my mind was I don't really have one. I don't know. Um. But I was like, I can't give the audience. I'd answer, like, let me say something that can kind of strike up conversation. Yeah, clearly, UM. So I explained to Jane. I was like, look, the reason I said the infidelity piece or you cheating on me isn't because if you did it, I wouldn't try at

our relationship. Obviously I would with the other things that in pain that I put you through, There's no way I'll just walk out. My thing when I was telling Joanna was there's nothing else I could foresee a reason being that I would question our relationship. And that was I understand Like my definition in that moment of deal breaker was a little difference. I heard it as what would make me question our relationship? And that would be

the only thing, literally, the only thing. I don't know what else, because of all the work that we do, I don't know what else could honestly make me question our relationship. But because of all we've been through, it just it just makes me think, Okay, that would be the one thing. I'd be like, damn, this sucks, but let's figure this out. But I'll still have those feelings of can we make this work? So it's not that

I wouldn't fight for it. And I understand why people would consider that because it's a deal breaker, and everyone thinks considers a deal breaker. As you do this, it's done, period, no black, you know, it's black and white. For me, it was a little bit of gray. What do you guys think about that. Oh, we have a question. Oh that's interesting. If this is about One Tree Hill, we can talk about it later. All right, Yeah, I know lx de b Okay, I would love that so on

one Tree Hill? All right, I guess who I'm that right now. Well, when you brought it up, I kind of automatically felt like the main reason he said that was a deal breaker is because he just saw the pain that he put you through, and like he knows after everything that you've been through that you were so strong because of all this. So after he saw the pain that you went through, he was probably like, I don't think I could go through that watching her do

that to me. I get that, and I hear that again. It's I think the hardest thing for me is just in my mind hearing that, Okay, he wouldn't want to fight for and that's what because I'm like, because I

have thought so hard so I would. Yeah. It is kind of hypocritical too, but like it's it's I mean, it's also one of those things where it's kind of like, you know he had an addiction, and like you've been going with him through this journey and you know that you don't have one so for him, it's kind of like right now maybe, But I'm not saying I'm just no, I I hear you. I totally do hear you. But again, people make mistakes and I'm not trying to give myself

a free hall pass. I don't want to haul pass. I don't want to have to go through what we like still go through. I mean, just the other night, I was bawling my eyes out, like we're not it's still it's constant thing that we have to fight through and go through, you know. So I hundred percent don't want it. I just want to know that I'm gonna have the same person. They're like like whatever life brings us, Like,

I'm there with you, I'm your partner. I mean, of course you've got to be at least happy that he's not the deal breaker. Isn't the brushing the teeth thing? Because I mean, are you married? No, I'm not, okay? What would be like? What would you think your deal breaker would be? Um, honestly, it would be honestly for me, like I feel like if if my spouse were to do anything all and they just didn't come to me and be like, hey, look I screwed up I did this.

I mean kind of like with the podcast, with the gaming and everything like that, Like he was aware that he was spending the money and everything like that. But when he came to you, you felt so much better that he was just kind of like, Okay, I did this wrong, Like I feel like just honesty. You know, you can have those moments where you're like, all right, I'm really pissed and I need to walk away and

think about this. But you know, if you think about it and you're like, all right, he did come to me and he was being honest, and I would much rather have that than just like have somebody else tell me that this happened. One million percent, I agree with you. Yeah, what was your name? Tori? Y'all get it over to thank you for the question and for being a avid wind Down listener. We appreciate it. Yeah, stuff right there, Yes she did. She dropped down there. You want to

talk about your iPad stuff? No, never ending with this iPad? Sorry baby, So anyways, I don't. I wanted to clear that up because I didn't want people to get their wrong impression that I wouldn't fight for our marriage, because we're both fighting every day, you know, everyone in any marriage relationship, you're fighting. You're making the conscious decision to fight for your partner period, no matter what you guys have been through, even if you're in the honeymoon phase,

you guys are choosing each other. And so at the end of the day, regardless of what happens, I'm still gonna decide to choose you and work through whatever comes up. Thank you. You know, what's something really cool I want to do as a takeaway too for people that are married or that you know it's not even if even if you're not married, if you're um single owner relationship.

I think something's really cool that I've that we've started to do is I think it's so easy to look at your partner to say, hey, what are they doing wrong? It's what let's look in the mirror and be like, all right, what can I do? How can I be a better friend? How can I be a better spouse, How can I be a better person? How can I be a better mom? And I think that's something that I hope you buys and takeaway to, you know, bring back to your relationships and be like, all right, how

can I do better? Because I know for me, I'm super passive and I'm learning how not to be passive. Shut up, Why are you smiling at me like that? Michel? All right, but first I just kind of want to take a quick break because we need to talk about

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she's she's got a lot of energy. She's all of energy. Yeah, certified badass, um, and I think she can really bring a lot to uh the conversation. So Aaron Opria please come to stay. So for those of you that don't follow me on Instagram, this is Aaron Obria. She needs her own walkout music, she really does. Um, I have it from my events. What's what's your walkout music? I know? Well, this is like how we do it. This is how

we do it, singer, I mean, yeah girl. So um, okay, So Aaron is my trainer, and she's an amazing trainer. But she's also an amazing person too, which I love about her. Um, but let me just read this because I just have to. Um, you're a trainer, author and a former US marine, So thank you for your service. Thank you. Opria completed two tours of active duty in Iraq and made history when she was appointed to lead the first female platoon attached to the infantry in a

war zone. Kind of crazy. How do you not have a movie about you? You know what? There was actually an author over there that wrote a book about it. What um, there's a book written, not just a whole book about it, but it was an author came from New York and wrote about it while we were there. So maybe one day we'll do a movie. But I

wanted to be about dancing. What's the what do you think the biggest misconception about working out healthy diet is like for women that you're going to get big weights make you big. No, weights make pretty muscles. That's such a misconception. Jane still to this day says that, and you we've known you how long? Now? Five years? I mean, she also sets this af dringing wine. So I only listened to her this much so I will get through one day, I promise. Never ever, I'm not giving up.

It's not gonna happen like she she tries. I mean she trains Carrie Underwood, Kelsey Ballerini, Maren Morris, Raylan, Lauren a Lena. I mean, you train every every but Casey musk Grave, They're awesome, Like you can't give it us in the drama like any no drama, any girls, No, everyone's BFFs. What So you had an event this morning, tell us about like what what you did there and kind of what you do as your I was like a wet dog today because it poured on our event.

But it was fantastic. We all made pretty muscles. We got to do lots of lunches, squats. My husband was deejaying it. We had so much fun. What do you What do you think? Um? Because you always tell me it's not about how much I work out, It's about what I eat. And is that that's the reality of That is the absolute truth. No matter how much you try, you cannot out train a bad diet. I tried for years. I need a whole large pizza and think I can work out all week and get off. It doesn't work

that way. So what is it? It's clean eating, clean eating. I always say eat clean to get lean, work out to be strong, all right, But when you say clean eating, I'm a big advocate for everything's okay in moderation. Moderation absolutely okay. So I'm not saying no, you can have a doughnut, I just don't eat a dozen of them. No, no, no, And you can still have a piece of pizza, just don't eat the whole large like I used to do

out of ten pieces last night. So when Sean and I my husband, I order pizza, not now, when we used to order pizza, he'd order one for him and one for me, and then I was like, deserve wine, give it all to me. It's my cheat day. Well that takes a long time to get rid of. So now when I cheat a cheat in small portion, do you did you do you really see the difference, like when you and Sean used to do that, like have

a whole pizza. Do you see the difference? Like in the mirror night and day from from the night and day. I lose one whole line on my ABS. When I do that the next day for like three days to get it back, it sucks. I'm like, damn it, I worked so hard and I was gone already. That's b s. I don't. Well, you tell me like I would have abs if I stopped drinking wine. But again, I don't care that much. I'm like, I'm a mom. It's cool, Like it's fine. I don't need to have the abbs.

I'm fine with it, right, Okay, then I'd rather have my wine. I choose one day, we're not going to drink as much wine. How do you actually feel like you drink less wine now? Anyways, Well, it depends on the wasted. It was on the week too. We're in bed at seven and we're playing Uno to top it off. Okay, So that's where like it's really gone downhill for us, like massively. I was like, oh wow, it's not even eight and we're playing likes retainers in like so romantic.

I have a zick cream on my face, like it's great, so hot. So Aaron, your energy is obviously very infectious and you always stay positive. What in your life do you deal with that that you struggle? It's like, okay, I really have to consciously think to stay positive in this moment. Have sex with her husband. Wait, what's that word means? That's hey, that's my husband right there. Give it up for Sean. Uh sex? Sex? That doesn't I mean I think sleep trump sex in our house? Well,

actually I don't think I know it does. I was like sex once a year, who needs it more than that? No? If you have to like, that's like, do you really truly believe that? Though? Yep? Why why? Because I would rather go to sleep. I mean, I love my husband dearly. He's such a rock star. But if you're gonna say, well, you've got four hours or you I mean, it's not like it would take more than two minutes. But I mean, we haven't had sex in six months. Of god, it

couldn't take too long. I'm an open book. I don't really care, so it doesn't. But I'm like, I could have two minutes more of sleep, So good night. I love By the way, though, the guys that came here, you know, with their wives, like the wives should be like see, I'm like, we're good, the we're good and you're good. I want what more do you want? You know what, Janna, I'm going to do better. You tell me all the time, every single time. Well, this is what I tell Aaron. I'm like, because I know Sean.

We always talked about love languages like his you know he he likes touch, and it's just I think it would mean so much. I'm like, Aaron, go give your husband a kiss, just a kiss or a tap on the ass or something, you know, if I touched him, he's like wild in our house. No, but I mean don't like is there's like let's really get there, like is there something there that I love my husband? I seriously have the best husband. He is so good to me, so good to me, and I'm not always the best

to him. You know what, I'm going to be better today. Start it's your lucky day, Sean, because hey, I'll put a heart on Instagram. Then you guys know that we did it. So if you guys see all my story tonight, a big heart were hundred. But no, I just want to compare this. We we've got a question. But I'm gonna I want to ask you this though. It is because there's so many people that say, you know, it's hard to work out. I don't have enough time in

the day. You know, and you are the biggest advocate for the person that always says there is you can always find the time. You can also find the time for your for your marriage, in your relationship. You are correct. But I could do an extra devata or I could have sex. Oh my god, I think I think squats win. Do you not break a sweat when you have sex? I told you it's two minutes. I'm in better shape than that. I might have to bring sewn up for an encore later. A right, you want to come tell

them about your sex? All right? We have a question right here? Um we have a Mike, Caitlin, I think, but yes you can. Fitness can be done anywhere, anytime. There's no excuses. If you have five minutes, anything is better than nothing. Too well, Hi hi hi? Um? So your husband is his love language is touch? What is yours? And acts of kindness that a service like? I love My laundry is done, my house is clean, my dishes

are done. That's what I like. And he doesn't go to work and he does that for you, though, but why are you doing for him that? I suck? No, not literally, I mean I suck at being a wife, That's what I meant to say. But I dance a lot with them. I mean, what more does he want? Right? Sean? Right? But like doesn't that don't you ever feel bad about that? Though? Nope, Aaron, it's making me feel bad. Well no, but I just like I want you to know, I know, I just want you to what I keep going? No? No, I

just you know I love you. You know, but when you as a friend too, would she'd be like, hey, like you're kind of being Let's say I'm being mean and people say like, hey, you're being to hard on Mike. I'm like, you're right, I have to fix that. So I promised today I'm I'm putting a heart and I'm not going to put a fake card. I mean, John, I'm gonna text you later. We're gonna textually make sure it's a lie. Two minutes. Baby, we got it. Should you all just go to the bathroom now and just

do it? Oh my goodness. You always talk about having a healthy lifestyle, and I think that it's not about you know, adopted or a shirt short term effects. It's about being healthy throughout your whole life. Don't you think that you know you should take care of that in your own personal life instead of just spouting it on Instagram. I do. I do a lot of working out great comments. I do a lot of work that I think you healthy meals? What more do you want? But I wash

your healthy meals were balance. Wow, this is just gotten really intense and I'm really awkward. He's the best sleep, He's so good to me, And I'm going to be better to him. A plus amen to that. So you have a four by four diet book out? Yes, what is what is it? Give us a quick recap of the book. I know this book is all about learning to live a healthy, balanced lifestyle forever. It's not a quick fix, it's not a fad diet. I want you to enjoy all the goodies and moderation. Um. I have

quick workouts in there. They're called tiboda. If you guys don't know what tibada is. There four minute workouts, twenty second birst of exercise followed by ten seconds arrest for eight rounds and all the workouts you can do anywhere. Put on some good music, have some fun, eat clean, move your body lots and hey, you guys will feel amazing. That's what it's all about. How do you feel on the inside. It's not about looks. It's all about the feeling.

And the more you move, the more energy had, the more you want to keep going, the more you sit, the tighter you get, the worse it gets, and you gotta break that cycle. That's what it boom all right, Um, Aaron, thank you so much for have it out here. You're the sweetest. Thank you. Yeah, do you got anything else for you had to bring out? Well, just to promote yourself? What else do you have coming out? For people that aren't here physically but listening on the podcast, Like, what

do you have to promote? Where they where can they find you? Where can like? What do you have coming up? So? I have an event in l A coming up. We just did a big one for c m A Fest yesterday which was so fun. Um what else we have? We I have a new book that will be coming out towards next year sometime, but for right now by the four by four Diet, Yes perfect. Check out that book and Instagram. I give lots of free workouts for everybody to play in on. Well, y'all give it up

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my Lola dot com and enter Janna when you subscribe. Again, for forty percent off all subscriptions, visit my Lola dot com and enter Janna. So we're gonna have her scoot down um. And then we're going to bring out our next guest, who is, um, basically a part of the fam. Now she is family. Do we want to go to the whole story? Should we? Yeah? I think they kind of know the the Avid wind Down listeners know the story, but you can tell the story for those so basically

who those who don't know. So we're gonna bring out our dear friend and basically family, Like Janna said Julie Solomon, her husband is Jonathan Schick, who janna Max husband, who is also her hex ex husband. And they were our closest friends in l A. Really, and we shared a movie truck coming out here to Nashville. UM. So yeah, without further ado, here's Julie Solomon. Hey Jules, Hi, welcome to wind Down in Nashville, my hometown. I know Julius

from Nashville. Um, Julie, give the crowd basically a recap of you, like what's your elevator pitch? Yeah. So I'm also in the podcast space. UM. I have a podcast called the Influencer Podcast, So I teach women how to create and grow businesses that they love and market it online. So we do that through the podcast. I have a lot of online educational courses where I teach bloggers influencers. YouTubers are those who want to be how to start their business and grow it and kill it on Instagram.

I think what's cool too about Julie is that she you don't have to have a hundred thousand followers you don't have. You don't have to have fifty thousand followers you can have. I mean how much you can start making zero, start making money. Yeah, if you have an idea, if you're passionate about something deep in your bones and you want to you know, sell or market that passion to another human being on the planet, then you can create and grow business online. So it's it really does

come down to that passion. But what if they like makeup and hair and skincare, elly and fitness, all those things together, can you still dor do you have to find just that one knit No, I mean the vast majority of my audience or what I call multi passionate entrepreneurs, you know, they're I love to do hair, and I also love dogs, and I love to cook, and I love this and that and this and that and so how do you kind of culminate that into one thing? And be able to market that and that really comes

down to knowing who you're talking to. And you offer courses right to the people that follow you and do you take them also, do you have like one on one face times with them or do you do anything like that as well. Yeah, So we have one course called Pitch Up Perfect, So it teaches you how to get brand deals. Has anyone heard of what brand deals are? You see the bloggers talk like that for sugar ab

Our hair, like that is a brand deal. And so if you're someone who wants to start doing that, I teach you how to do that and essentially pitch yourself to these brands to get in front of them. And also I will tell you this to what she told me,

and I've done this. I had a fake assistant, Like I got an email and I i I was Janet Gramer, but I had came up this fake assistant named like Sarah or something, and I actually emailed these brands directly and was like, Hi, I'm just you know whatever, Valerie, I'm Valerie. Just to try to like get in front of the brand and just to talk. But even you don't have to be a basistant, like be yourself too

and I've done that as well. Like I reached out to Vichy and was like, I love your clothes, I would love to work with you, and now we have a huge partnership that would have never have happened if I didn't reach out. Okay, now let me just be Devil's advocate here. So that's easy for you to do, right because you have a following, You have this famous cool girl, right, so you have you have all of that.

But but somebody that isn't of celebrity status or have that kind of stuff, how do you, you know, give them the motivation to be like, hey, you're worth you know something for this company to to, you know, talk about their brand and promote it. Yeah. So I mean the package may look different, right Jana may have a massive fan base and that sort of thing, but the

strategy remains the same. So you still are coming from this place of service, and that doesn't matter if you're living online or if you own a hair salon in Nashville. It really is about serving the customers, serving the brand. Coming from this place of how can I help you, how can I support you? Take the limelight off of you and really put it on the person that you're trying to build that relationship with and that's how it works. And that's like the great example that you said with

Fitchie Dollars. You're like, I genuinely love your clothes. I will wear them whether you pay me to wear them. And I was not looking for a partnership. I honestly just wanted free clothes because I hate shopping. So I was just like, if you could send me clothes every month or so, that'd be amazing. And then they're like, well, no, we should do something, and I was like, little do they know, I would have done it for free, so

because I love their clothes exactly. And the in the hack because a lot of times when you're first starting out, it can be really attimidate, like intimidating, right going emailing brands are going up to someone at an event and saying, you know, I really love your stuff and I would love to kind of keep the conversation open. So the hack that I gave Jana was to create this email that can be you know, assistant at sally J dot com or whatever you want to name it, but it's

really you behind the scenes. But it kind of gives you that little barrier to break the ice and it

doesn't feel so intimidating to reach out to brands. But again, like I still again this is just coming from a mindset of you know, I'm on the outside of this social media stuff and just thinking if someone, okay, someone started a social media account today and I was like, hey, I really love this company and I want to get involved with them, and they go to them like what do they have to offer this company when this company could get someone or pay someone or whatever to get

you know, more more branding, more exposure to a water range of fans, Like, how is that worth the time for the company? Well, you have to ask, you know, the company. A lot of times you may not know. They may want to work with micro bloggers. They may want to work with someone that may be living in

a smaller town. Who's who knows that they're going to tell their aunt and their cousin and their sister about a product and that that no like and trust is already built there more eyes, yes, And so it's really about a lot of times brands actually work with what is called micro influencers, which are bloggers that have less than fifty thousand followers. Sometimes now they even call them

like micro micro. It's bloggers that have less than ten thousand followers because the no like and trust is built there with that audience far more than it is a macro influencer someone with hundreds of thousands of followers. I know you're working on new stuff. I know we can't tell the audience. Um. Even though we were working on the plane, which, by the way, this is really funny, we were we all flew on the same plane to

last was it last Thursday? Thursday? And we started to hit turbulence and I have massive anxiety at any time, but um, like, flying is another one where I have

really massive anxiety. And Julie's wanting me to read something of hers and we started to have really bad turbulence and I was like, hey, I can't read this right now, and I'm like holding her arm and then she's trying to make fun of me, and she looks at me and I was like, I'm actually really scared right now, so if you can just stop, like, and she's just like, oh, okay, like you're actually having attack right now. I was like.

She was like rubbing my leg and I was like, oh, it feels nice, and she was like, no, really, it's not like rubbing her like I was, hold, I had my nails into your arms. Thanks for the massage. We have two rows on Southwest and it's it's it's Julie Jana and she had Jason arms and then John, Julie's husband, on the other side of the aisle, was me, Yeah, why are you sitting in the middle ground? I was on I was at the kids table, right, So it's me,

their son, Camden, and Jolie. At one point all three of us have our iPads with their headphones on, sitting there watching our stuff. But then Janna starting to, you know, have the turbulence, and she's trying to reach across John to Mike. I'm scared. I'm like tapping John like hey, John, like you've probably been through this before, Like can you help her out? That's awesome? Oh Mic drop mine drop.

And Janna was like, no, I didn't have anxiety. Then John was like, yeah, you did, and so they started having like an old relationship argument like no I didn't. I'm just like all right, they got this. I'm good with the kids. You guys deal with I'm just never heard typing away. Yeah. So we're a happy little family.

It works though. But anyways, besides that, I was gonna say when I was having anxiety, I was reading something in yours and it's about you know, being positive, and again we can't say what it is, but you're always so incredibly positive. And I will always say this to Julie's she's always a person, you know, she's She's one of the main reasons why Mike and I are still

together because she was. She was the one person that was like, well, you know what you have, you you have you have stuff too, and you have to you have to deal with your issues too, and you have to you know, it's you just were so you were the one friend that didn't say leave right away. You you stayed very constant and you know what, there's ripples in the water and this is you know, this is life and things come up and you just have to

you have to work at it. And I was like, huh, I'm here to like a bitch about my husband, Like what do you want to get on the same train here. She's like no, She's like, it's not how it is. And and she was. She was the one that kept me kind of on the ground. But for me, it's like what makes you, you know, what what makes you not pot like is there's something that gets you down? Because I feel like you're always constantly positive. What's the one thing that's kind of like your kryptonite? I mean,

I think for me it can be um. You know a lot of times they'll say maybe with drinkers it's their drinking, or with um, you know, people that work a lot, it's the it's the it's the work. For me, it's my thinking. You know, I can get really into my head with my perfectionism and my need for control and never feeling good enough and just always trying to kind of go to the next thing and not really allowing myself to be really still in president in that moment.

And so what helps me stay positive is coming back to the gratitude because the more that I stay in that gratitude to be grateful for every moment that I am on this planet, for my family, for being able to be given the opportunities to continue to grow to learn more about my self, that kind of keeps me

in that positive state. And I really do feel at the end of the day, it's it can be not always a choice, because I think with some people, you know, there can be mental illness that's involved, there can be chemical imbalances that that's involved. For some people, it's not always a choice to be positive, um. But for me, I at least try day in day out to start my day with gratitude and to try to try to stay in that state of positivity. So I love that.

And like Janna said, you were a big part um in Janna and I honestly just remaining together at the beginning. I mean, you really were, and we appre we've always been indebted to you for that and we love you. Um. But to touch on that, I mean it's basically just realizing, you know, being grateful, like understanding what you have as opposed to complain what you don't, for sure, And I think that there's a saying that like if it's hysterical,

it's historical. So if you ever see yourself getting crazy or a little like whoo whoo about something, then it's probably you're probably being triggered from something that's happened in the past. And so that's when you really have to like turn it back on yourself, like we always have a part, even if it's one per cent. And so that's why I always try now in my life of what I've learned is that whenever I'm starting to get annoyed by someone else, are frustrated or angry or whatever

it is, you know, what about me is being triggered? Really? Like, what about me? Am? I annoyed with? Right now? What about me? Am? I frustrated with right now? Because really, when you're when you ever, if you spot it, you got it right. If you ever see it in someone else, it's really just a mirror and a reflection of something that you need to work on that you probably haven't gotten to the other side of yet. Dam that's good,

That's real good. I Michael and I had a conversation that I just want to do this really fast before we wrap up. So ma'am and sir, so do you wanna do you want to enter this on? Yes? So basically recently Jolie has learned the effort not but fine. Right like last Jolie to do something and she'd like fine, and she ends it with the and she's three and a half. We're like it not me, I don't say fine. She got it from school. I was saying that I say whatever, whatever, it's better. So Jane and I had

this discussion. It was literally just the other night. And the other night I said, Jolie, can you please go get that bird path for me? She was no, And I said, Jolie, ray, mommy asked you to help me. Can you please go get that bird path? And she was fine, and I go, excuse me, do not say that it's yes, mommy, and she and he goes, no, it's yes, ma'am. I'd say no, I say, or yes ma'am. But then you said of saying I really want the

kids to say yes ma'am or yes sir. But I said, but to us, I was like, I want that for other people, but not for us. That was I feel like, for us it's so formal, and so I I want them to say yes mommy, yes daddy, But like to you, I want to say yes ma'am. And to you know, to you, I say yes like I want want her to say yes sir. But for us in the house, I was just like, for me personally, I just feel like it's a little too tight. So I was just

curious what your girls as thoughts were on that. So mine was yes, sir, yes ma'am in the house, really yes. The Marine, big old Marine Corps side of it comes out. I feel like it's in respect to ye. Yeah. Growing up, my parents did the same thing, and we grew up in San Diego, or I grew up in San Diego and most people didn't do that, but my parents were really big on it on the military side of me kept it in my kids and and I feel like the way you're thinking, it might be hard to teach.

What do you mean, don't use it at home, but use it everywhere else. And that's and that was exactly my point to touch on. I told Jane. I was like, you know, if we use it here and that's the standard, right, so then when they leave the house, that's the standard for them. Yes me, I mean, yes, sir, That's exactly what my point. And then maybe as they get older, when they can understand the difference, Okay, you can say yes, mommy, yes daddy, or yes, I hate yeah, yeah yeah. My

kids don't say it now. I mean there's seventeen and nineteen, but they don't say yes ma'am to me. And it's different now, but when they were younger, but like my three year old Julie, like yes ma'am, yes, certainly, yes, sir. To dad, I'm just kind of like, yep, Julie, what do you think? But I mean I was raised with that too. I feel like it's a very traditional you know.

I don't know if are you making him that I say, yeah, I say no sir, or yet like sometimes to him like if he does something, I'm like, no, sir, no sir, right, and I think, what do you what do you want him to say to you? Um, you know, we haven't crossed that road, but I you know, I agree with Aaron that I would absolutely want to make sure that that level of respect was given to other people. So it may need to start in the home, so he

knows that that carries out outside of the home. It doesn't mean they're always going to do it perfectly in the home, but hopefully you've hashed it out enough. This is how you give respect to others that when they're not in the home, at least they do it to others. Does anyone else have that with their kids? Their kids do the yes? Yeah, do you want to Let's get to the dude over there, to the man that came to wind down, Yes, he got dragged here by his wife.

He came on his own. I just would love to hear your input on this. Okay, well, what's your name, Matt, Yes, my wife Danielle. At least you're honest, Thanks dude. I was dragged here too. It's okay. Um. No. We have a three year old daughter at that at our house, and most of the time, you know, she'll say yes, mommy, yes daddy. Um. We do want a teacher respect as well,

so we will say yes, sir, yes, ma'am as well. Um. Lately, it's been kind of weird because she's actually been calling us by our first names, which is so like if she's upset, she'll be like no, Matt, and I'm like hold on. So it's actually, uh, you know, she she

had a little bit of a speech issue. Um, So like it's great for us just because she is saying, you know, the words, she's saying all the sentences, which is fantastic, but at the same time, like it is kind of because she'll just be like no, dam Yelle. I'm like, honey, we don't do that, and she's like fine, and she'll drop her head and like walk off into the corners. I'm like, what are you your three? How do you, how do you know how to do this? So, yeah,

it's it's um. But yeah, we we do mostly get the yes sir, yes, ma'am, but we also get the yes mom, yes dad. Okay, maybe we can just like do a blend of it because I think just always like no, say yes. It's the sur thing that bothers me. Why okay, so clearly and then ma'am too, like I'm your mommy, Like I'm like, I'm your mom doing you right now? That's exactly what's put by Julie head On. It's like what's underneath of this? No, I'm just I want her to what's really going on? Get to the

root of it. No, I mean yeah, daddy issues, but like not because of that, Like I mean, no, it's it's it's more just do you have an issue with authority? No, he has an issue with authority? This is true. Yeah, he doesn't like to be told what to do ever by his coaches, by his teammates, by his wife, by his Do you have had person saying you can't access this payment for me because I locked that down? This will never end um for me. It's just it's not

about authority, it's about respect. And that's the way I view no certain, ma'am. And I think that's where you know, Michigan is like Michigan wants to be in the South, but they're not. And that's where Jan's from. So like the fake South. So it's like Tennessee, Virginia military. It's like, we know it's about respect. Well you didn't respect Michigan, so peace. I mean, it's country, but it is above the Mason Dixon line. Right. We never did the man and sera in Michigan, least for us. I I didn't

do that. But it's still like my I would always say, like guest mom or like I. May I was very big for me. So like I still say at a restaurant, may I please have coke or a pop? You know, so you didn't do may I? See may I is that is before sir and ma'am in my book. I just think it's very you know, it's just whatever, did you have to get asked to be a dismissed from the table too? No? When I was young, yes, when

I was like younger. Yes. What's funny though, when Janna talks about may I, it's really funny because when we're at a restaurant. Her managers almost too good. It's kind of annoying actually, because she's like she actually she's inconveniencing the waiter, Um, may I please have us? Like everything's like a question. I'm like, yeah, I'm sorry, may I

please have some more water? It's like everything it's like you're inconvenience you You've worked in the service industry, right, so that's where I want to go get it myself and the same way I am. I always go above and beyond with anytime I'm at a restaurant because I have worked in restaurants before the same but still I know understood that I got paid to do my job. Their job is to take your order and go get it.

What's I'm a damn good tipper always, but I'll tip you a penny if their services really Oh absolutely, I'll tip before what it's worth. If you need a terrible job. Terrible job? Did you hear that us weekly ear any of those run that right now? He's a bad tipper, one line out, but you have to earn it. I will say this. We have the movers coming soon, and I'm going to say there is a big fat chunk of cash in a jar that we don't have yet,

but we need to get out. But it is yours if you if you do a good job, because our last mover is just broke everything and just ruined everything. So it's like if you know, you definitely want to you know, good service, yes, but he's just like at a restaurant, but you don't not tip. That's that's your that's being a little You've never done that. This is before you, Okay, because I won't let him do that, even if they're bad, I won't. I won't let him

do that. Yeah, because that's still day. I had nothing to do with your It's nothing to do with you. What's why on inside of you? Right now? Michael? What's let's reflect about me. It's about them regardless of if you if you had a bad day right now, right you just stop the show here and do your job. Yeah, okay, what's the difference, and you get paid to do a job regardless. You have to leave your personal stuff to the side. To the side. Our personal stuf is our business.

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around the city. Motto is one of my favorite restaurants, So if you guys are in town, that's a really good restaurant. I love that. Fith and Taylor that's actually right around the corner is incredible. Um oh you go ahead, Uh yeah, Fifth and Taylor is actually one of our favorites right here in the corner. And the first time we were going to Fifth and Taylor, Janna said, hey, we're Fifth and Taylor and I said, um, I think

it's on fifth and Taylor. So that was a good That was a good you in a moment um, What was the hardest part of adjusting from one one kid to two? If it? That was probably the hardest transition Mike and I ever had, was transitioning transitioning from one to two, because it was you don't have a second

at all. Yep. She's like, m it's hard. You think you think it's not gonna be that bad because it's like, all right, you get one, I get one, but then you forget about all those times where it's like, hey, can you take Jolie for a little bit so I can shower, so I can do this or that, And now it's just we feel bad doing that to one another because get two kids and it's not easy to both. When he first met, what was the first thing you noticed about each other that you liked? Kevin from Indiana?

Thanks Kevin. Uh, I loved his smile. Um, and then he um, he felt like home, which I know it sounds really corny, but you did. Um. For me, it was her authenticity. Um, just meeting somebody and who was known enough celebrity status and just had such a good time with her, and it was so genuine and so real. And Uh. The fact that she had two other guys lined up that day but then chose me over them was also a winner. Two. That's also a true story. I had to make sure I had some backup, you know,

I mean Chicago. I'm in a big city. I needed to have, you know. But and I was the first of three, and I stuck around. This is actually an interesting question too. How do you decide where to draw the line on what you share about in the podcast. Do you ever disagree on what should be shared and what should be kept personal? Kaylee from Texas, good question. We have one thing we don't talk about, um, which is details and specifics around everything around um, the affairs.

We do not talk about it. Um. Yeah, So that's the one thing. Everything else we kind of everything else. Everything else we're pretty open. But there are things, you know, we don't talk about. His family of origin, my family of origin sides. We touch on it, but just out of respect for our families and stuff too, not to get into the weeds of how they screwed us up. No, it's not that. It's just because we we've chosen to live publicly, so it's it's unfair to bring people in

that haven't chosen that life. So we don't want to do that, all right, Um, we so appreciate you guys coming here. UM, thank you so much to my heart, to m Theory for putting this on. We appreciate it more than you knowing for you guys for coming. We're gonna be signing merch at the end of this, so please um combine and say hey to us, and we're super excited that you guys came here to wind down with US, So see you next Monday. I guess right. That's right. Thank you guys,