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while I'm here. So I went to waffle House for the first time you have I had I had eggs, um a waffle bacon, and I had hash browns, had a smothered covered h Pepford and capped. Did you have the runs after? How good was the waffle Though? I love waffle House? It was really good. I really, I really like it. Like I'm going to try and hit it again before I leave. I mean, it's greasy, it's batty, but it's so good. It's so it's cheap, like that breakfast is like five dollars. Okay, what did you do

after a waffle House? After waffle house. I went to Avery Island, Oh, the Tabasca. I went to the Tabaska. I brought you some to Tabasco jelly beans for you guys, and Tabasco chocolate over there. I went on the Tabasco tour. It was spicy and fun. It was cool. I learned a lot about peppers, and uh, it smells like Tabasco sauce all over the place, so it's like it makes your eyes water, but in a really fun way, really fun amazing. I also went into the I think I'm

saying it's right. The Michaelhenny family that owns Tabasco. They they had like a bird park near on every island. So I drove around there and I saw an alligator that you did did you call? Like I only read about these in story book for real? It was crazy

like uh. At one point I got out of my car and I was like taking pictures of just like the trees, and I was like looking for gators and uh, I was kind of the water and I see this thing start moving like in the like you know, and like Jaws or something you'd see like the water ripple. I started like, my god, they're slow right, Like I'll be okay, it's I kind of reached back and I was like touching my door handle, getting ready to jump in, and then it comes out of the water and it

was a turtle, a little turtle. I felt like such. I'm glad I was alone because I freaked out. So you really didn't see alligator? Then I did see it. I did seem later on did you say later gator? And then did he say after a while rug? I did? Yeah, that was exchange. Uh, yeah, it was. It was really fun. Um. So I drove around there for a bit and then I went I went back to my hotel and I worked for a little bit, and then I went to Raising Canes. It's a it's a chicken chicken spot and

they do chicken strips. It's really good. We have them in California, but they were found in Louisiana. So I wanted to see you had churches chicken yet, you know, I haven't had churches chicken. We had those in California, too, But wow, that sounds like a really Louisiana Southern day. You know, it really was. I felt like I got the full experience. I love that. Um. Just the heads up, I think someone's about to knock on my trailer door. UM, this, I'm going to be in and out this episode. I

might not come back. I might come back, So Mike and Eastern are gonna take over the rest of this. UM's gotta go work. What's your favorite thing about acting? UM? Playing somebody else? Yeah? What's your least favorite thing? Waiting? Like the night shoots? I hate what we're doing right now. I really don't like night Shoots. But what can I

just say something really fast? So when we leave, When I leave and you guys talk, the only thing that I asked that you guys don't talk about is the nerd stuff like the Star Wars and the Avengers because we will lose subscribers audience. I was. I was thinking about it, like, there goes my whole list of stuff. I know, because you know, I really don't want people to follow us. And do you think we would really

do that? Um? I mean the whole episode, the whole episode. Still, I think you know, we know you as like a lungers. We I had my we had that talk before the podcast, because I did. I was actually going to text him earlier today about something I forgot that he was here waiting to save yeah. So I was like, I'll save it, you know, to myself, I was like, I'll save it for in person, But I didn't save it for the podcast where you talked about it. Got it? Okay? So

are you interviewing me right now? Just why we have you before we have to go work. I feel like I'm the special guest. Who are the special guests? And Mike's podcast, Oh wow, this is the wine down has now gone to Eastern and Mike's Mind Down with Eastan and Mike. Grab a drink with Eastern and Mike. Um. So between doing music and acting, what are the like, what do you get from them that the other doesn't

give you? Like? What is it about music that you get that acting doesn't What is it about acting that music doesn't give you? It's interesting, good question. It's interesting because you get the instant feedback with um, with being on stage, so people liking your stuff and singing along, and you get that instant gratification almost like if you did a Broadway UM, and then you also get to

be yourself. But at the same time, I still you know, I had a hard time performing live in the very beginning, but then I was like, no, I can put on this entertainer role and be an act that even though I'm still myself and I'm still putting on you know, the show and being an entertainer. But with acting, I feel like it gives um you get to be creative and you get to step aside. And that's what I said. One of my favorite things about this is because I feel like I get to step aside and leave my

reality and become Sarah's reality. Most is my character and and with Alex and I just get to have fun. They get to explore when I get to be like, wow, I wonder what this person would do. I know what I would do, but what would she do? So there's something in this show that um I was. I was talking to imas Emily or director and I was like, oh, why did you take that out? That was so funny. She's like, yeah, but I don't think that's what the character would have done. So I think that's what you

would have done. And I was like, you're so right, but that's not something that my character would have done. So it's about like having to think about what this other person would do and get to, you know, kind of live that and then leave that character and be like, all right, you know next so interesting. So now the opposite of that between the two, what is what is

it about them that you don't like? Like? What is the biggest downfall of being a singer and doing music was the biggest downfall and negative aspect of being an actress or an actor? I'm sorry, I mean I think with this singing and so personal, that's why I was so afraid to go into singing because I felt they're telling me, no, they're telling me they don't like me.

It's different with acting because I feel like you walk into room, all right, maybe I'm I'm Burnett and they want a blond, or maybe they just saw a different version, so they're not saying that I'm not good enough. So do you think actors in general, if a movie flops or a movie doesn't do well or I make up, that they would still or that somewhere in your shoes would still kind of take it personally because it's still you put in the performance, is still you performing well.

And this is where what I was going to go to, that is to what I was saying is both ways artists, singers musicians. I think artists in general were so deathly insecure like you. I was just talking to one of the girls playing Miss Clara, and we were just saying how we always want like affirmation, like was that a good was that a good enough scene? And there's only been I would say a handful. There's been maybe three scenes that I've walked away and said I was a

dent on that, and there's never been. And that's the downfall with the acting, in the in the music is because you don't walk a way saying wow each time that makes sense like you, you you feel insecure, and that's that's the hardest part because I'm like, man, I could have done better at that, or man, I could have done this. And I was talking to um who

was I talking to the other damn set? Oh? I was talking to the producer because I was telling you, I said, it just sucks that we have that internal battle. It's the same thing with saying like, man, I could have saying that one better and I could have done this on that show. I could have been way more on and I was tired or whatever. Same with the acting side, and he's like, well, is there anything that you know you're good at? And I was like, I know,

I'm a great freaking mom. That's the only thing that I can say that I can like hang my hat on, which is why Again, to your point, the negative is feeling like you're just not good enough and that's not good enough. Do you think acting and like movies and film and TV, is more subjective than music, Like, even though it all depends on everyone's personal tastes and preference and all of that, but I just just from you

talking about it, it kind of feels like music. He's like, either like country or don't either like hip hop or you don't cut more so, but it's like acting. You know, you and I have both made each other watch movies that maybe we wouldn't watch, and then we're sitting there it's like, oh this that was really good. I really enjoyed that. So because of that, do you find it harder? Because, like you're saying to you the scene, you're like, I think I could have done that better, but that's just

your opinion. Your director or your producer or someone else might be like that was an amazing yeah, you know, so do you even though you didn't feel that way at first, because you have that information, or you're like, okay, yeah, it was great well, and that's the battle. So like with one of the scenes that we just filmed the first day, I was I texted Daniel and I was like,

I'm sorry, man, I was not on. I just had a really tough time in that scene because I just feel like I have a lot writing on this and I just want to do good because it's my first movie back in you know, a year and a half, and I just I don't want to come back and be like, man, she sucks like she took too much time off, and so the internal voices in our head, I know, and I was crying and I felt so stupid, but I just I really, like, you know, having such a hard time. And he, you know, he ended up

saying he's like, hey, the scene turned out amazing. What are you talking about? But again, that's just the downfall is just not feeling like you you have to. Here's and here's what I've learned with auditioning, which is total total different beasts, is saying, okay, audition, I go in and I'm done with it. I throw away the sides I don't because you can't. You'll just stew and be like, oh I could have done this better. I could and that it's like, Okay, now I'm trying to learn how

to just leave it in the scene. Well, especially because you guys just from an outsiders you know, perspective is seeing all their auditions, all the stuff you've gone in the room for, all the stuff you put on tape. That would drive me nuts if you just hung onto every single one and dissected. Is like, I actually have done this. Let's do another table, you know, and send that one in. It's like, no, you can be a never ending cycle. It's like that one audition we did

when you were hungry. So it always brings me back to, oh, it's so hard some times running We we self tape a lot. That was funny. That was fun Yeah. Basically, Janna just kept wanting to do a scene over and over again. And she caught me like right before lunch or something. One second, they're ready, okay, And so yeah, Janna realized after the twenty tages like, Okay, I know you're hungry, you eat al right, guys, let's say I gotta go ahead to set you guys do your boy talk,

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dot com. Slash Jana al Right, well now it's uh boys only club, no girls allowed. Janna has to go work man, poor thing she's got late these I tell you what, just being with Jana, the the demand that the business that she's in between singing, like when you'd be on tour all the time and being on set acting. You know, from the outside looking in looks like an amazing time, like party and not stop or having a great time, and it's a blast, and it's so easy

and fun. These musicians, these entertaineers, these actors and actresses, they work their ass off. It's unbelievable. And like something when I was I was talking to her and she's like, you know that this particular project, it's a Christmas movie. This is August in Louisiana. Like we have to pretend it's cold outside and like everyone's wearing like giant coats

and everything. And I'm like, oh my god, like that that's it's just like you have to do the scene a million times in different angles that you're sweating your butt off. Man. It's just like you know, I'm I'm. It makes me very thankful that I just have to press record and then it gets to go home to my absolutely no question. It makes me wonder. I'm like, why do they have to record or film these movies

right now? Like why they can't give themselves like a ten month timeline to like film them back in you know, late winter, early spring. They have to do it in like August and just have three months until it comes out. I know I was thinking about that too. I just assumed that it would be nice to do you wait till the wintertime, you record all of them for the next year, you know. But I guess I I don't know how that we don't know the inner working as much like us. It's like it sounds so simple. Why

not I'll fix it? Um. You know. It's funny though, because the first time I don't remember what movie it was, but the first time I went like on a set with Channah and I was excited. I was like, oh, man, like I'm going to set, see what it's all about. After like a few days and I'm like, can I go home? Honey? I love you? But I'm good, can I can I take off? Because it's just like you said from so, it's they'll do the same scene and they'll like wrap on the scene and like all right,

like we get to go. Nope, they got to do the same scene ten more times from a different angle. And sometimes they'll have stand ins, but a lot of times they won't. Depends on you the level movie and budget and this and that and what kind of angle they have of you. But it's it's just it's exhausting. It's exhausting, and honestly, to all those listeners, it's boring. I mean it is, it really is. I got to

watch them shoot. Um we talked about this last week, but I got to watch them shoot a part where Janet didn't speak, like she was just like on her she was like texting somebody and like a character comes up and talks to her, but you can't really hear what they're I think they're gonna ad r it or something. But I was watching them and it was they did it. They did it like five times, so like not that many,

and it was a really short shot. But I was having like once I realized like Okay, they're gonna do this a couple more times, Like I was watching some of the background people to see if they change. Like there's this old couple. They're supposed to walk through the room and they're terrely supposed to be leaving the room, and I was like, oh, this time, the guy straightened his tie as he was walking right. Those little things to keep you entertained. I'm excited to see which take

they use in the final product. And I and I always pick up on those things and movies in general, like I'm always I like I could be that person that calls out. And we were just talking about it off off air about you pick up on things that are the goose and movies. It's like, well, he was holding his right hand here, but in this scene he was holding his laugh like what you know, what's going on? Um? But no, it's a lot of fun. And I admire Janna for the work that she puts into all of this.

I mean, it's unbelievable. And then you know, she had a whole week away from Jolie and joint Julie and I just flew here, and she'll have another week away from us next week when we leave. And you know, fortunately she's had jcre the whole week and that keeps her happy. But it's a lot, man, these families that lived this life. It's it's it takes its hole. It

really does. Speaking of entertainment, so unfortunately I wasn't there, and I don't know if you guys talked about it, but your presence on stage with Janna at the House of Blues and Anaheim a couple of weeks ago, which was legendary. Thank you. And for those of you who don't follow Janna, I'm sure do you still have it on your Instagram? It's on parts of it on my Instagram.

Janna has the whole thing on hers, Okay, So go to Jan's Instagram, on her Instagram TV, on her Instagram TV, and you'll see Eastern up there on stage out singing Channa on our own songs. You know. I will say this though, and I admire your ability to seize a movement. Thank you, Thank you very much. You know what I mean.

I don't think we talked about this. So it's one of those things that at least me personally, there's there's moments in my life where it could be something that silly is doing something like that going up on stage and singing or doing karaoke, which I did in college, thank you very much. We had a little boy band going on called the Little Dudes. It was fantastic. Everything and your boy bands on. It was awesome Tuesday nights

at the pub in Harrisonburg, Virginia. Anyways, enough down memory lane, um No, But being able, that's just something a trait that I wish I could have more of and just really seize a moment and take advantage of it, because that then you just have regrets, you know. And it's I feel like any any situation like that and that we've kind of experienced together or that I've seen you in, you always just sees the day. You just make the most of it. Like today you're in New Iberia, Louisiana.

No one probably probably listening knows where that is, and you just went out found what was here and just went out and ventured out. A lot of people maybe would have just stayed in their hotel room. I I probably would have done that, you know. I mean, I'll just stayed in my hotel room, maybe gone somewhere. But you just go by yourself and just enjoy the day, you know, And that's one of those things that as people, as human beings, it's like we don't want to. Everyone

says no regrets, like you know, no regrets. No one wants any of that. But yet when the time comes, we don't step up. But people like you, there's plenty of people like you that are able to take advantage of that. What is that? Is that? Is that just your personality? Do you have some kind of explanation where your parents always told you to seize a moment or is it just kind of part of you? You know? Uh?

It my my my parents definitely taught me to, like because my dad like is a bodybuilder and he like would do bodybuiding shows and stuff like that, and he, uh he always talked about like the first one he entered, he was like, nothing good ever happened if I don't do this, you know, like like yeah, I might lose and embarrass myself, but but like it'll just never happen if I don't. That's the only way to guarantee something doesn't happen, is if you don't do it. Uh, you know,

I I don't know, I get um. I always I'm always afraid of what if I didn't do something? That's what like I get afraid of so um, I try to. I try to try a bunch of stuff. Yeah, and it's worked out for me. Yeah. And you know, Jane and I have talked about kind of this topic before.

And I'll have this thing where I will want something good happens, and after, like I'm sitting with it, I'll like think back and I'll play this game with myself, like what if that didn't happen, especially with like football, right, what if I didn't make that catch? What if I had to drop that touchdown? What? And it's I don't know why I do, but it's just so you know,

what if I didn't get married to Janna? What? It's just you know what I mean, Just there's there's positive things in life that that have happened to every to to to the listeners, to you, to me, to whoever. Thinking about man, what did I do? Like how did I put myself in a situation for this to happen? And then what if I didn't take advantage of it?

You know what I mean. Darius Recker has a song called this and uh he said, it's like forever stop glad I didn't take ever I did or didn't make and it's like whatever happened in my life has led me to this moment, and you know, and I'm glad I made those decisions. I was thinking just the other day, I I UM, I recently started seeing my therapist again

after like six years of not seeing a therapist. Do anything inspire that or just you're just like I'm having I'm having some problems with some close friends of mine and it's um affecting me more than I would like it too, And I'm like complaining to my wife about it a lot. And she she's had a lot, she's had a very hard time these last couple of years.

She's had a lot of really bad stuff happened. And I had this realization, like the last thing she needs is me like bitching to about like my like dumb friends. So I was like, this is something that like it's probably a deeper issue I need to work with um with someone about but UM. When I first started seeing her, I was in this like really bad relationship that was

like really destroying my life. Like and uh, I think a lot of times about if I was still with that person, I'm like, I don't think nothing in my life would be the same, Like I probably would have gotten her pregnant at some point. I would have never

moved to Los Angeles. I would never like, you know, reconnect with Alice, like like everything in my life would be different if it wasn't for that um and you know, and there's I think we all have those types of like I don't call it a turning point, but we all have those moments where like, God, if I had done this thing different, yeah, yeah, my life would be

so much worse than it is now. And you just have to like somethings like reflect on those decisions and be like, Okay, I know what I'm doing right, but yeah, how do you have you found that beneficial senior therapist? Again?

I forgot. I feel like an idiot for not going for so long, because I really think even if you don't have any I really I'm on those people where I'm like, even if you don't have anything like going on, like uh, you're not struggling with anything that you know of, I really think everyone can benefit from It's yeah, it's funny.

It's always it's always those Uh. That's like Jenny and I have said this before, probably on here, but it's probably when we first started where we'd go into those couple therapy sessions and we kind of stay to each other like we don't really should we cancel because we don't really have anything. And those are the days that we go in and just you know, can of worms

is open and we're like, what just happened? You know, because you said you feel like you're you're in this like dormant state that you have nothing going on, nothing to talk about. But I got I gotta do is sit in a room, just start talking. That stuff comes out, man. And it's it's been bothering me being back in Nashville, not having my therapist from l A on a regular basis. You know, We've done some phone sessions, but it's not the same as being in person. But I've just been

in Nashville. There's a lot going on. Jenna and I have a lot of projects we're working on. You know, we've talked about how being back in Nashville is a

little bit harder on a relationship. Right now, we're still trying to navigate it um and so I don't have that person to talk to to go see and it's it's really starting to weigh on me because I have all these all these like feelings like going on that I just honestly, I feel like a lot of them have come outsideways and I haven't been able to rest them in the best ways to Janna, and you know, probably because that we're in a rough spot right now and it's you know, it sucks, and you know, she's

been here shooting a movie. I've been at home with Jolie working on some other projects we've got going on and take care of things there. And so it's just not having that regular just outlet of just talking things out, you know, and trying to navigate it yourself. So the past two months have really been an eye opener for me just being like I really need therapy, you know, like I need to find someone on a regular basis

physically in front of me in Nashville. And at first I was just too biased towards my therapist in l A because I was just like, the biggest thing is telling everyone your story, right exactly. You don't especially with think Janna and I have a story. It's like, alright, Doc, how much time to goat because uh, you know, I gotta catch up to speak here. There's a lot of

loaded information coming your way. Yeah, you know, I I have been doing phone My therapis is in my hometown in Santa Cruz, California, and I've been doing phone sessions and it's it isn't it's it's not the same. And and that's a reason why I haven't. I haven't even tried to find someone in l A because not only did I see her before, but she, um, she saw my sister when my parents were getting divorced, so she knows like all about my family all but my parents

and everything. And like it's the idea of getting someone else up to speed is so daunting, you know, yeah, because then you're gonna spend part of these sessions, some not even part of a lot of these sessions end up being like, well let me tell you about this real quick so you can get the context, you know. But there these people are professionals and they pick up on this stuff pretty quick. Um. But yeah, before we move forward with some more stuff we gotta talk about,

let's take a break. All right, We're back from our break. It's me and East in here. We're sitting in Jana's trailer in New Iberia, uh, just off the set site here filming her movie and uh, she might be popping in a little bit later, who knows, hopefully, But so the men have the control right now. And you guys are probably thinking we're gonna be talking about some nonsense. But like I just talked about, touched on for a second, Janna and I are in a rough spot, probably probably

the worst consistently that we've been. Yeah, I think it's just been a lot of a lot more up and down than we have had recently. Now, the good thing, the good thing with us is we've come a long way. Because if this was a year or two ago, us up and down would be questioning the relationship, right. You would be like, I'm gonna divorce you know, I'm gonna divorce you and you know you're like that game. And but now that this is the difference is that we realize, no,

that's not an option. We're not going to get to that level. We're not going to play that game. We're gonna work this out, we're gonna figure out what's going on. We're gonna keep fighting for our family, for each other. But it's it's been one of those things I'm sure everyone can relate in their relationship. You're just getting a rut, you know what I mean. So it's just like, what and even with all the work that Jan and I've had and all the you know, guidance and help and everything,

it's still right now we're kind of stuck. It's like, wait, what do we do to to to you know, get the paddles and jump start this, you know, clear and jump start us back and just kind of you know, kind of get back there dune Alison ever go like you guys go through ruts and what has helped you? Guys? Um? You know, our our marriage is so new, right, we haven't there's times where like, well bicker more than normal, but uh we we haven't. Um, we haven't had any

like real ruts yet. And I do I attribute that to like, we just haven't had the time. I'm sure that will happen. Did this did this most recent like like like what you're feeling right now? Did this kind of start before she left to film the movie? Yeah? Yeah, yeah it did. And it was just it's just been the combination of being back in Nashville working on projects that we're working on, and we it's hard. It's hard

to work together, it really is. We work in two completely different styles two completely different ways, and that's just how it is. Janna is planned and scheduled and and wants to know exactly I'm gonna do this from this time, this time, this day, I'm gonna do this, and I'm a little bit more laws by fair where I'm like, well, I'm gonna start working on this, and if it's just not working that day, I'm not gonna force it. I'm gonna do something else productive, but I'm gonna I always

get it done. But it's like Janna starts to get stressed out if it's not on her schedule. She starts to lose it, and then you know, thinks I'm not working hard or thinks I'm procrastinating, which is like a trigger word for me because my parents always used to use that word with me, and I hate it. And you know, I'll just be like, just because I'm not

working the way you do, doesn't mean I'm procrastinating. I was like, I wouldn't have gotten to the place I did my life with my former career if I was a procrastinator, you know what I mean, Like I have something to hang my hat on at the end of the day, like a little bit of of you know, kind of leverage here, I guess, um, but it's but no, it's it's it's been since beforehand and um yeah, and so we're just trying to navigate. Don't help that she's

out of town right now. But I'm curious and I'll be curious for p well listening to send emails in I would just love to get other ideas on what people do in their relationships to jump start people that are even if they're just boyfriend girlfriend who married for multiple years and have kids, Like, what do you guys do two when you're in a rut in your relationship?

What do you do? You know? And the thing is, what's hard, especially when you have two stubborn personalities like Janna and I, is it takes one person to put down their their sword and shield. First, you gotta put it down and come in. The problem is is that if you do that and you get burned and the other person doesn't meet you there, then that wall wants to go up even you know, even faster and harder and taller and thicker, and then you don't want to

kind of come up, come out of there. And that's kind of been the battle between Jana and I and I think that's why it's lingered, just because we've both had our moments of trying to lean in and put our guard down, and the other person just wasn't ready, you know what I mean, And we weren't willing. We're both being stubborn and weren't willing to meet each other in that place. And so that while we'll go back up and push this further apart, you know, so it's

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in a relationship. What do people to to jump start things and get out of that, you know? And for me, what I've what I found that has helped me at least be the one to lower my shield or my wall is I'll usually do some reading, some like meditational stuff, some reading and you know, all those kind of things and proverbs about you know, something only has has as much power on you as you give it, like that kind of stuff. Right, if you don't give something power,

then it won't affect you. And so I want to I want to be that way more in my life. I want to live like that and be just a calm person. And in so many aspects of my life I am so many and now was a that was a one of my biggest traits in former careers, whether football or Shales or whatever. I was calm, cool, collected. For whatever reason, when it comes to personal relationships, especially

romantic relationships, I am volatile. Interesting. It's I don't know if it's because it's more personal and I take things more personal because it's a relationship, but it's just I'm just way more you know, up and down. When uh, if Janet comes to you with a like she's upset with something, do you find like do you find yourself I don't want to say losing control, but like do you react like aggressively or defensively? Like because that because I too am a calm person. I mean, you know me,

but I do I find myself? Like if Alison comes to me with something I like, she'll say like easter, imply is lower your voice and like I don't start like screaming, but I do get like more animated and yeah, and that's that's my thing. To Janna. Janna be like, WHOA calm down, Like, I'm just I'm not angry or yelling. I'm just animated. I'm passionate. I love screaming. I am calm,

like I'm only angry when you say I'm angry. But you know it's if she comes to me like that, I've always unfortunately a character defect of mine is being defensive. It really is, and I admit that I own that. I'm trying to work on it um And again, I think it's just because in relationships, I take everything personal. So when when she comes to me and said, it's for me, it's all about delivery. And maybe maybe I'm overly sensitive in my expectation to how I need something delivered.

But depending on the situations, sometimes I need like a little affirmation before before or they before she brings the problem to me, like, hey, honey, I know you're you've been working really hard on this project that we're working on, um, but you know I have some fears around it not getting done in time, and you know, can we talk about this instead of uh so, what are you doing today? Okay, oh you're not done with that yet, or you know

why we're gonna be behind? Like I told you this was gonna happen if you didn't procrastinate, like this wouldn't happen, you know what I mean. So there's there's just ways to to to deliver things and both of us can

be better at that. UM. I think Janna. Janna is a little bit more candid when it comes to out than I am, because she's used to handling people like that because of the business aspect of the careers that she has been in with entertainment music, Like you gotta be direct to the point, candid, no bs, like tell me what the reality is exactly you know what I mean,

and get things done. And that's how Janna is. And when she said people that work for her or with her or whatever it may be, Janna likes the answers she cuts. She cuts to the bs where you know, I'm a salesa guy. You know, I'm gray. I live in the grade. Baby, Yeah, A little bit, this a little bit of that, you know. So it's a it's a little We're just different. We're different, you know, we're different people were all different people in different human beings

and we're trying to make it work. But it's just no, it's just it's hard, man. And like learning trying to have teach yourself when you when you have a reaction that is like you know that you go to like like if you said you get defensive. Um, it's so hard to It's it's like learning to walk with like

another left foot, you know. Like it just feels so at least for me, like when when when there's a conflict and I'm finding myself kind of acting unhealthy just because that's what I go to and like I have to like talk myself through and it's so hard because it feels so natural at the time, you know, but then then you know it turns out to be better

for everybody. But it's it's just it's so hard, especially when you're with someone and the way that they're handling the conflict is so much different than the way you do. It really is and it's you know, full disclosure, Like I've gone to anger management, I've done all that. I had a great therapist in Los Angeles that I saw for probably a year and a half of the time that we were there, and dig amazing work with her,

and she's definitely helped me tremendously. But it's it's still a lot of those things that I deal with where it is just I'm just still trying to change those

ways of how I receive, how I take information. And it sounds so simple just to just for someone to say something and for you to not to take it personally and just be like, Okay, I'm sorry that you feel the way that you do, and just being able to live in your reality because my thing is where it comes from is even if I know my truth is the truth, right, regardless of what Jan or anybody else thinks, right, I know what the truth is. I know that I'm working hard on this, or I know

that I did this, or whatever it may be. I hate that, even though I know it's the truth. If Janna thinks I'm not a hard worker, or somebody else thinks I'm a bad person or whatever it is, that's where my defensiveness comes up. I'm like, it drives me nuts to think that someone has an opinion of me that's not what I wanted to be, especially when it comes to certain things, not everything. There's something I don't care if you think that. I mean, I really don't care.

I know that's on the truth. There's certain things like being a respectful person, being a hard worker, um being you know nowadays, definitely being someone who's honest and lives within tech or be and stuff like that. Someone challenges those kind of things that have really, you know, changed gears in my life to to really be those that kind of person. If that gets challenged, that's what I take. Just personally. I'm just like, no, you don't understand, like

I am a good person. You know. It's just like maybe and maybe it's because you know I was before in a lot of those aspects, especially in relationships, and maybe that's why. Because I'm I'm I'm trying so hard to be a much better person than was before. It's like, why wouldn't I be take that personal? I don't have the track record to be confident in my truth. Really honestly, I can't be like, I don't care what you think about me. I'm a great person. I've been a great,

spousing boyfriend my entire life. But it's like, no, you haven't, but now I am. But why do I why do I have to defend that? And I think I really do think it's a it's a male thing. Yeah, yeah, that's a distinctly male thing. Um. Uh, but I totally understand it. It's so hard to let your like you were saying though, Like saying that about a situation is so much easier to say than when you're in it, and you know, uh and trying to like walk yourself through a different way. And God is just like did

you did you ever go see like a therapist before? Um? Like the sex action stuff and everything? Uh? Yes and no yes, because Jan and I went to see her couples or her individual therapist as our couple's therapist when I first move to Nashville. Um, but it wasn't really beneficial because I'll lyne you know what I mean. So it was like going to therapy and lying because I wasn't being a faithful or on his part. So it didn't do anything because I was just full of shit.

So no, not really, not until after did everything I learned, like how to have healthy and therapy and how it can be beneficial. Do you have any emails? We do have? Um enough about our problem? All right, here we go. This one is from Courtney. Alright, Courtney, She says, uh, Hi, Janna and Mike and Easton. My boyfriend cheated on me at a bachelor party a few months ago. He was completely remorseful and embarrassed. The situation has been traumatic for both of us. He knew he messed up big time.

After many, many talks about what happened and how we can move forward to come out stronger, I've decided to stay and make it work. The only thing that seems to be weighing me down is what my family and friends think. They're all aware of what happened. My boyfriend wrote my parents a letter, and I keep having ambiguous conversations with them. I want their approval, of course, but how do you recommend talk to them about this? How do you recommend justifying why I decided to stay? Great

great email, Courtney. Um. First of all, great decision to stay, especially because of his actions, the fact that he's been remorseful, you know, empathetic, understanding of her feelings, it seems like, and is willing to talk about it. Isn't defending and saying, you know anything as a bachelor party like what you know whatever. He's not excusing or rationalizing or justifying any

of the behavior. And the fact, the biggest thing right here the fact that he wrote your parents a letter and was willing to address that and speak to them.

That speaks volumes of I think his character. Yes, he cheated on you, so it still sucks, but the fact that he's willing to do that, because I know plenty of guys who still continuously want to sweep it under the rug and don't want to address it or haven't addressed it with any of their spouses, families, or friends or anything, because a lot of them don't know anything. NASA is coming from the addiction side because of the anonymity, which is understandable, but coming from someone who has had

to do that and face that that it sucks. But ultimately, your family should follow your lead, and if you choose to love him and choose to stay, then they should love and support you for that. They don't have to like him right now. Jane's family they didn't like me, you know what I mean. But they all pretty much told me, look, we stick with Janna. She's gonna give you a che We'll give you a chance. But and

that's it. It took me a long time to earn their their love and their likeness back, you know what I mean. It took me a couple of years. So the fact that he was willing to do that, I really think is what you need to hang your hat on. And you go to your parents and be like, look, be confident in it, and be like, hey, he's owning his mistakes. He was willing to talk to you about it. I love him. I'm choosing to stay. I hope you

guys support me as my parents to do so. If not, then I'm sorry you feel that way, but I'm going to stay with him. Done and a conversation unless unless they want to say something supportive, it's the end of the conversation. And then you leave. That's it. It's good advice. Ah. Thanks thanks for writing that, Courtney. UM, hope everything works out for the best. I hope. Yeah, follow up with us. I would love to hear about how it goes, if

if and when you have that conversation with your parents. Yeah. Uh. The next one is from uh Sarah Uh, she says, Um. She loves the podcast. First of all, I just want to throw it in there. Uh. She's a twenty two years old starting grad school this month. Um. I've only seen healthy relationships growing up. Both sets of grandparents were married over fifty years. My parents are celebrating their thirty coming up. She loves the idea of love, but she's

afraid of experiencing it. She says, I've been flirting with my brother's old college roommate off and on for the past few years, and recently we have gone on a few dates that were a lot of fun, as the first time it actually felt like something could come from all the flirting. However, after the first few days, he got a job that placed him over four d fifty miles away. I find myself not trying anymore because I'm

afraid to get to attached. Since his job in schooling has us far apart for at least two more years. He's one of my brother's closest friends. Our families don't know, and it's hard for me to take a trip out just to see him. But she's afraid of getting too close to this guy, right, because there's a lot of things that are probably pointing towards it. Its demise, you know, right, And she's only been been exposed to healthy, loving relationships from what she said at the beginning, right, so she

hasn't really seen the turmoil. But no one is really naive and understands that love hurts. Uh Sarah is her name, Okay. From my point of view, and my opinion is, it's a very tricky situation because you know, brother's best friend or or express friend or whatever it is, brother's friend, and the distance and you're twenty two years old, so just I mean, I'm ten years older than you. It's not a lot, but you grow a lot between twenty

two and thirty two. For sure, that's probably when you do your most developing, Like I think mentally is probably like between that time frame, and so I would just say, don't put all your eggs in that basket. But also, don't be scared. Don't don't let your fear of love be the thing that stops you. If you really think that it's something worth pursuing, then you do what you gotta do and jump through the hoops to make it work.

Whether that you're telling your families that you guys wanted to see each other so you can travel for fifty miles away to go see him, you know, or you just realize that you're twenty two, you're going into grad school. You're gonna be busy, He's going to be busy with work and what he's doing. Just be like, you know what, I care about him, I like him, but this isn't the time to jump into something that's that far away from each other. That's you him. You've had some good

times with him and nothing will change that. But you know, there's I wish there's so many times in my early twenties I wish I would have just made the right decision. No, we know is the right decision, just to be like, yeah, this probably isn't gonna work out, instead of just sticking with it for because either I didn't want to hurt them, or I didn't want to get hurt or because it seemed like the easier thing, but it just makes it

harder down the road. So if you really have that much fear around it, save yourself a little bit of heartache or pain and make it easier in yourself now before you do get too attached, and you know, then things really go south. But again, at the same time, I don't I don't want her to to not try because she's scared of love. But I get it. Man, Yeah it hurt. But hey, you know, maybe maybe you say I don't want to say say goodbye because you're not like kind this guy of your life, but you're not.

You know, maybe a couple of years goes by, he moves back. You never know. Yeah, and that's where the whole kind of you know, if it's meant to be, it's meant to be. I mean, that's getting a little you know, uh, destiny talking. But but it's true. You're right, it's you're young, and if if it is, it is, you know, and and just I don't know, I just

don't rush in that indecision, you know. But else, if you we're going back and forth, we could justify both sides, okay, but Sarah, just do what you think is right, and well you could decide just go and but I will say this though, before we move on, is my one of my college roommates, him and his now wife who's pregnant. They spent the first oh man three years after college community between Baltimore and New York actually Baltimore, Connecticut, really

three years long. To wow, they made it work. You know, it was a lot of sacrifice, a lot of travel. Now, granted, there's a lot of different ways to travel between Baltimore and New York. Train, plane, bus, car, you name it. But it's I mean, it's about that four hour you know, fours four hours something like that. It's it's it's possible. So I mean, it is possible, but it all depends on your priority. All right, So we're gonna bring a

guest on. We're gonna bring on Daniel, who is a fantastic person an even better producer, and he's the producer on, uh this movie that Jan is here filming for a lifetime. And you've done how many of one of the movie, two of the movies with Janna one of the movie, And uh, how's it been going so far? For this this go around? It's going pretty good. I think I've decided that doing a Christmas movie in August in Louisiana is never gonna happen again. So we're talking about this earlier.

So why do you guys do that? Because the last one you did was the Mississippi one? Right, right, So like why not have done the movie six months ago in February or something? Yeah, I mean it's I mean, it's a good question. I always get that all the time, and the answer is, um, you know, networks don't really know what type of product that they're gonna want the following year. So we're making these movies development, developing them with the network. Right, So they're going to release their

slate this October, November, December. They're going to kind of evaluate the ratings, make a decision, look at budgets, and say, okay,

we did twenty eight this year. Lifetime is doing original Christmas movies this year, which is which is insane, right Yeah, And so um uh, you know I'm lucky enough to have two of those that did one in May, um and then doing this one now, and um, you know they're gonna evaluate the ratings, look at budgets, and kind of make decisions on what do we want for our slate? How many how many slots were we filling? Which movies

work for us, which one is didn't. So we're gonna start developing these movies and pitching them to them around September, October, November. And by the time they're making decisions and and putting out contracts, you're looking at you know, jan fab March, right, And so now we're kind of like getting deep into the script and the development process. And because we're working with the network, there's a lot of people that are involved and putting hands on it and eyes on it.

So by the time we have a script that's ready to shoot, you know, it's it's now April May, and if you have to to do like you know, I'm lucky enough to have I did one in May, kind of wrap it up in June, catch my breath, start start prepping another one, and here we are in August. Um. But yeah, it's gonna be a hard pass doing a Christmas movie in August in Louisiana. Ever again, I think I'll I'll come up to Nashville and sleep in your

guest room. Um. But yeah, it's it's it's going well, I mean really the main two elements that we're fighting um right now is during the summer. You know, you get that midday kind of pop up storm that happens and it's really unpredictable, and then just the heat. I

mean it's just so brutal. Uh. You know. Fortunately, working with three of the six actors on this movie, um, I worked with with them doing Christmas movies in the middle of summer, so they knew what they were getting into, including Janna, so um uh and she's uh, you know, I must say I was. I was mentioning to her just working with her two years ago and Christmas in Mississippi and working with her now. It's just it's just

exciting to work with her again. And you know, it just I haven't seen her since then, and and uh just kind of seeing where she is now, it's like so just so impressive. It's like so much growth, and you know, seeing her with you know, being a mom too kids. It's just it's so cool to see her like do the double duty thing. Um. But yeah, we're having a good time and and uh, I'm looking forward to things settling down in week two so I can

spend a little more time on set. Absolutely what's been you know for And even when I when I first started going on sets with Jenna, I'm like, what does the producer do? Right, So for listeners out there, like explain the elevator pitch for a producer on set, like

what you're doing on a daily basis. So I would kind of compare it to a general contractor, right, So you're pretty much, you know, the guy who's in charge of hiring all the subs and managing your budget and making sure that the jobs getting done at the quality and at the price point that you want for your ultimate you know buyer. So I I typically compare it to to building a house. And so that's really my responsibility is I try to get the best subs possible.

So you know, um, not too simplify it in that way, but my director, my DP, my production designer DP is is director of photography who's in charge of all the lighting. Um. And you know, it's interesting about making movies and it's also very complex is that you know, really every single

craft out there we utilize in the film industry. So you know, it's it's it's so great to like talk to people in all the different walks of life because when you're making a movie, it's really when everybody comes together, from a chef to an account to a hair hairstylist, to an actor, to a storyteller to somebody who can, you know, rig up lights and run cable and drive trucks.

You get all these personalities together and then you throw in all these different specific unions that govern the different personalities and you have to just keep the ship moving in the right direction. And and it's just it's a challenge. So it's as a producer, you're really just responsible for hiring the right people, doing what you can to stay out of the way, let them do their thing. And when and when the you know the the ship is going down the wrong path, you just try to straighten

it up a little bit. And so that's that's really my job. So at the end of the day, you know, my crew makes me look good. The actress made me look good, and and I'm appreciative of that because you know, I don't know the first thing about doing what they're doing. I just know how to find good people. Do you feel like you're put your spend a lot of days that kind of putting out fires, absolutely, taking care of problems, problem solving. Jana was Janna was giving me the other

day about you. Uh no, she was gonna be like, you're never on set, never see you, what are you doing. I'm like, if I'm on set, then ultimately that means that things are things are gonna get a little dicey as we move from this location to the next. I'm always just one step ahead and making sure that you know, once we landed a new location or dealing with other elements,

that we're gonna be prepared. And um, you know, I do like sitting on set, but at the end of the day, you know, unfortunately I have to kind of get out in front. Well, and it's kind of boring sitting on set after a while totally. Well, look, the thing is is because I'm also financially responsible for, you know, the final cost of the movie at the end of

the day. Um, and uh, when I'm on set, like I'm just terrified, like every everything that I'm saying, it's like if the if the camera is is like about to tilt over, my heart dropping, like like you know,

it's just it's just ignorance, is bliss? You just rather not see or rather not well this morning, you know this morning, we're trying to shoot you know, the introduction between uh, you know, Janna and her male co star, Percy DAGs and um, it's the first time they meet in the movie, and we're supposed to have this dog sort of like run up to Janna wearing reindeer ears

and and the dog just was not interested. And so you know, we we you know, we don't shoot these movies in sequential order, and so we've already established and what we shot before we got here today. We've already talked about the dog. We've already kind of interwoven him into the story. So had we shot this scene first, I would have said, Okay, we're gonna rewrite the script, get the dog out of the way. We're just gonna

keep moving. But instead, we really tried to figure out how do we make this dog do what it needs to do? And so we had peanut butter and you know, legs a little movie magic, you know, once you see it all all cut together, but it's it's it's always just really funny interesting things. Why is it that movies are filmed in not insequential order? Like, what is the

theory behind that? Well, I mean the main reason is is um, first of all your locations, right, so you know we might uh, as an example, you know, we started this movie. The first four days we shot in all of the house, so you know, we might open up the movie in the house, and twenty minutes later we might have a scene in the house, and you know, thirty minutes later another scene in the house. So if if you were to shoot an insequential order, you'd have

to be sort of in a one location type scenario. Um. Also, you know, you have what's called turnaround at the end of the day. Um, and everybody's turnaround is different depending on what their actors or you know, laborers, etcetera. But UM, you know, if we're doing a night shoot and we're you know, called times at seven pm and we're shoot until the sun comes up, well, you know you can't the next day then shoot daytime stuff because you know, you've got to give people enough time to shut their

eyes a little bit. And um, you know. So that's that's really the main reason why. You know, it's it's one of those things. I'm a big movie go or, like I love movies, Eastern loves movies, and it's I'm fascinated by the behind behind the scenes stuff, even though sitting there for a while you're like, all right, I'm ready to go home. But it's it's almost like I feel like a kid. Sometimes I'd rather not know because I'm such a believer on what I see on screen.

But like, I don't want to know that you didn't shoot everything in a row. I don't want to know that this isn't in order, you know what I mean. So like, as a movie goer, was that something like for you you just always had that mind on the on the back end, or you know, of no, this is how it works. Is I'm gonna do my job and you're just all business, or was any part of

you like, oh, this is just not what I imagined. Well, I mean, you know, I never uh, I never knew I was gonna be in the film industry, you know, I just, um, I've always just been good with people, um and sort of had these leadership skills that I knew it would serve me well at some point um in life. And you know, I um, I graduated college uh and started working at a restaurant waiting tables, and then ended up working at Chase Bank for a couple of years and just so happened that um, uh, the

guy walked into the bank. I was working at UM around two thousand four in Louisiana, and and there's tax incentives that had just passed where uh it started drawing a lot of people in and here I was, and

uh I was. I was this guy's banker. And he was a film producer who had just moved here from l A And uh so I was his banker for about a year and we built a relationship, and um he decided to expand his operation and he said, look, I need somebody that's good with numbers, that understands how to take a contract and monetize that is it's something you're interested. And I'm this twenty three year old kid.

It's like absolutely And fortunately, you know, I got out of the banking business right you know, kind of at the right time. Um, but was sort of thrown to the holes, you know, UM kind of learned about watching what not to do. You know, my first my first kind of film job, it was just uh, um, you know, it was just it was a bit of a mess

for a couple of years. And so you know, I just kind of figured out along the way and and um, kind of transition from there and started working with Kimbad Tissue I've I've worked with for a long time and uh, and now you know, I'm I'm sort of preparing to segue out onto my own but um, you know, it's been a it's been a long journey and every movie I sort of learned something new and I am always fascinated about, um, you know, how things happen and really

goes on behind the scenes for sure. Two questions before we wrap up. The first thing is, I know you kind of touched on it with like, you know, the camera falling over whatever. What is your biggest fear? Like, what's the atomic bomb for a producer to happen on a movie set? Well, we went through it two years ago Christmas in Mississippi. Remember when when um so we had a hurricane that was coming. We had three days we literally shot if anybody out there saw Christmas in

Mississippi with Janet Cramer and West Brown. Um we shot our first twelve days and the final three days of shooting was all the light show stuff. So when you watch um all the stuff the finale them setting up the light show. We had shot everything but that hurricanes forming in the Gulf. I had to call Force massure. I had to put every one of my actors on the airplane immediately to get them to safety. I'm sitting

there with twelve of my fifteen days shot. The entire finale of the movie is not anywhere on film and all that. This is big stuff, by the way, it's it's a two point The Harbor Light Show in Gulfport, Mississippi is a two point two million dollar light show that Island View puts on. And you know, they the town put this up in the middle of the summer for us. So here they are. They're now exposed because

the hurricanes coming. So they're panicking and I'm thinking if that set gets destroyed, I'm sitting here with a beautiful movie with no like literally no light show. So I and the and the problem is is thirteen actors in the scenes, and nine of them we're from from the West coast. So I had to find this is in August, Okay. I had to find three days that all thirteen people were mutually available to bring them back. And on top of that, I had to do it and finish it

and deliver it for Christmas. And so we I found Labor Day week as three days. Jana's mom had gotten married up in Michigan, right, who is it her? At that point it was her cousin. Okay, so she went up to Michigan. She and so we were shooting the next morning. All my other actors are there except the star of the movie. She she calls me. She's like, Okay, this is not a joke. I'm at the airport. My

flight's delayed like four hours. We are. Call time is at six am, so I'm like literally pressing refresh on my phone. I had to get a portable charger just to keep pressing refresh. She gets on an airplane finally, at like eleven o'clock. Emily Wilson and Greg Wilson. Emily is the director of that movie and this one. They drove to New Orleans, picked her up, and drove her back to Gulfport. I was waiting in the parking lot for her to thirty in the morning. We threw in

her hotel room. Three hours later, knock on the door, throw her in the trailer, and we shot those three days, and then she rapped. I had to put her on a plane because she had a project in l A So the atomic bomb is that when you have to sit, you have to stop shooting in the middle of production and send people away and bring them back and if you can, good luck. Yeah, and I biasedly, and maybe

i'm biasedly too. You probably had one of the best people to have to do that with it in Channa, because she's a workhorse and she'll just get she'll just get it done to like whatever it takes. She'll just be like, all right, let's do it. And she is a she is a pro at everything she does. She'll she'll have her moments of bit and complaining, but we all do right, anyone would in that situation, but she because she shows up and and she she takes care

of business. All right. That was the net. That was the atomic bomb. Now the last thing that will wrap up with is what is that moment where you just are like something happens on the movie. Maybe it's when things are done, You're like, man, I love my job, Like being a producer is awesome because this happened. Uh, you know it's it. It sounds bad, but it's not. Literally when everybody leaves and goes home is the best moment for me because it's like, you know, I've done

my job. People came together, we made up, we made a movie, and you know, we always hope it's going to be great. But the thing is when you see them out of sacrifice that people put into these movies. I mean you're talking about crews working, you know, fourteen fifteen sixteen hour days, you know, away from their families, away from their kids, and you know, you put your life on hold because you're so exhausted. There's literally no way to give any ounce of you to anyone else.

And so it's such a relief from me when I know that there's you know, you could have some atomic bombs and post for sure, but now in the digital age, just a little bit, you know, less tricky because you're not dealing with film um on a lot of movies. But it's always great when we say that's a rap. I go around and just see everybody and thank them, and when they're when they're gone and all the equipment is turned in, and you know, it's just the best

feeling in the world. But really the greatest feeling is when you when you press play on that cut for the first time and you see the see the finished product. I mean, it's just it's the best feeling in the world. Have you had moments because I've always wondered this for someone who works in the business when because there's some movies out there they're just like terrible, right that you

watched the maybe like god, this sucks it. Like have you ever worked on a film that you're a part of and when you see that first cut like posted and everything, You're just like, this isn't that good? Every

one of them, honestly, every one of them. And part of it's just because I'm so I'm so critical and I really want, I really want everything to be great, you know, because these movies are made for like specific customers, and I want it's so important for them to be happy because if they're happy, it means they're ordering more.

But I'm always just so every single one of them, like, oh man, that didn't really work or and it's just I'm sure you build it up to be like man, like in your head, you just have these expectations and then probably nothing really meets matches your excitement going into yeah, not going back to the house. And I'll analogy, but it's like it's like your builder calling. You're saying, hey,

your your house is done. We still have a couple of tweaks, but come on out and you get out there and it's like the slab and the frame and you're like, oh, well, how am I supposed to live in. It's like it's like it's not really the finished product, you know, but it's always good to kind of see it evolved. Typically by the third cut, you know it's it's it's looking good, and then you lay the music in and then you do the sound mix, and you know, I think that, Um, a friend of mine's on set tonight.

He just him and his family came in to be an extra, and he he knows nothing about the business. He's never been on a movie set, and he's like, how in the world do y'all pull this off? Like we watch movies and you have no idea. It's insane of making a movie. Has nothing to do with a camera and an actor. It's like literally nothing. It's like

there's so much that goes into it. I mean, I've got a guy right now who's like canvassing the streets looking for, you know, places that we can secure to park a hundred extras that are going to be coming into this small town. It's like it's a tiny area, So where do you park a hundred people? And then how do you get those hundred people from the parking lot to the area that they're going to be checking in and changing? And then where are you feeding them?

It's like who thinks about that? You know what I mean? Like none of us think about that, But that's like your job to think about that, which I will kudos to you, not only you know, I've got to know each other the last couple of years. You're a fantastic person, honestly, genuinely mean that. And the fact that you're able to take because you guys get different cruise no matter where you're shooting, right, It's not like you're bringing the same white people saying this the same that a few people

you are, Yeah, a few people. You still have new cruise on certain things that you're working with. So the fact that you're able to take those new people, those new personalities, mold them with the ones that you have around you, and turn out a successful project is fascinating and very I mean, I don't know a lot of people that could do that. So kudos to you and what you do, man, I appreciate it. I'm happy to come on and chat with you guys, and it's been fun.

You know. We're right in the middle of our final, uh final shoot day of week one, so um you know, I'm uh, well, congratulations, it's gonna be Was it Christmas on the River? No? No, No, A little surprised here. So you know, Christmas in Mississippi was Jana's last movie, right, I think we're onto something here. This one's Christmas in Louisiana. So I'm not stopping fifty states, right, Let's do it. Yeah, So, um, you know, we'll do Christmas in in Tennessee next year.

How Christmas in Hawaii? All right, we'll start writing the script. I'll stay all three weeks for that one, and this will be out the holiday season on Lifetime. Yes, it will, all right. The other one I shot is called Christmas Wish. Christmas Wish starring a few of Jana's former stars at One Tree Hill. Who's in that one? Hillary Burton, Tyler,

Hilton Lee Norris, Barbara Allen Woods, all sorts of. We have a lot of One Tree Hitlers that listen to this podcast naturally, so Antoine Tanner, Colin Ficis, It's it's a it's a star studded cast. So um that one and this one here, did you guys announce who's in this this film? I have not announced it's you know, said Janna Kramer. Percy DAGs the third from Veronica Marsh. We've got Moira Kelly, who's also a one tree holl Alone. She was the star of the Cut Edge Setting It,

which freaked Jan out. Janna was watched that movie a thousand times. Brian McNamara from Army Wives and he was nominated for Golden Globe and Billionaire Boys Club way back in the day, and then Very Bostwick Rocky Horror Picture Show. He was the movie. But I'm excited to meet him. He was in the movie with Janna and I two years ago. He played meet him. No, no, no, he was. He came for a few days. And then d Wallace, Uh, who's the mom from ET and she was on this

show last week on the podcast. Yeah, that's very cool, so UM had her on awesome. Yeah, she's been great. Well, thank you again, Daniel, appreciate your time. We're gonna wrap it up here from Yeah from New Iberia, Louisiana. Sign it off, Sign it off Later