Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. I'm not sure if we were all going to be on this podcast together. If the deep breaths and the out of breath breath, I'm so everyone's just take I felt better if you're driving, if you are wherever you're at. Did everyone just take a big deep breath on the counter three? Yeah? Always did it my head. I have to say that I never am excited when anyone is
dressed out. I don't like anyone to feel that way, But in today, I didn't want to feel alone in it. So I'm a little relieved that we're all on the same page, the best page. Well it's it's funny, I'm not funny. But I got a text from KB saying that she was struggling, and I was like, oh, what so, but she never responded back, so didn't know if she
was going to be on the podcast. And then, um, today is Mike's you know, turned to have the kids, and so he's at work, and so his uh because there was no school today, So that also adds the layer of like, well I have work to do today too, you know, and so uh like, and so I had asked that his parents were towns. I was like, hey, can you I thought what I what I thought I said in my brain was I'm recording at ten and I know I said ten, but I think he heard
around ten or maybe I did say around ten. And so when I was like when your parents coming, it was like ten thirty, I'm like no, no no, no, like I'm gonna be in the middle of talking to Stephen COLLETI at ten, you know, ten thirty, like we gotta and so then I start to get I got frustrated,
and um, I end up having to apologize. But sometimes it was ended up being a decent conversation because if I'm like, having seventy is a lot, and sometimes I feel like frustrated at times when I'm overworked and overtired, and it just all kind of falls on and like he's you know, So it was ended up, but I was like, my frustration should not have been taken out on you. So I'm sorry, that's good. Yeah, I'll let
you know when I apologize. Okay, well then let's throw the let's throw o what in the heart of Florida. I'm walking said door over there so that you guys don't see the absolute s h I t show that's going in and on because I requested sixty minutes of silence in a home and I can't get it. I don't know what kind of circus is going on behind me. But I was like, I will just turn the camera and I'll let you know when I apologize. But I wouldn't hold anyone's breath. Who do we need to apologize to?
I don't know because I'm just not in apologizing. Name one person I should apologize that one? Well it's you know, oh the lightest one. There you go. It was it was something like in a way like I was able to because something was said that I go. I go. Sometimes I just don't think I go. And it was like once I apologize, I was like, can I express my maybe frustration? He was like, yeah, you know, I
thank you for apologizing. I said, you know there will be comments of like, well, how didn't you know that this was going on? Or like let's say there was like this news article and I'm like, because I don't have time to I'm like when of the kids go to bed, I'm like, I have the kids seventy all the time. I don't have time to like look at things or do things or like did he ask you
how you don't know? Like there was something there was some article or whatever and or something I don't know, some movie that came out or it was like something. I was like, I know, I don't know. I'm like I I'm busy, and he's like, well, so am I. And then I'm like, uh, it's it's hard for me because I'm like that's you know, with the kids. I'm like, I don't sometimes I feel like, you know, I'm like, he goes right like two weeks in the month with that,
Like it's not fifty fifty right. So this is another thing too. I'm I just gonna say this because it's I've been getting like a lot of mom hate recently about me traveling to England and places because do I ever see my kids? And I'm like, I don't have the typical fifty fifty week on week off right, like it is, uh, you know, every Wednesday and then every
Friday Saturday. But I've been recently being like, hey, like Jace even mentions like when he doesn't see you for two weeks out of the month, it's those weeks are hard for him. So do you can I add a few days so that I can also have a break and maybe take a week to myself, because I would love to know what a week feels like to not have,
you know, because that's also whatever. And so you know, so this month he's letting me have not letting me, but he's been able to work in a schedule to let me have a week off, right, So I'm like, that's gonna be nice to have that time too. So but sometimes when I don't feel like I'm like, I don't have anyone to say like, good job, you're doing a great job. I get online hater saying I'm not you know, I'm being and not making time for the kids. And then I have no one, like I don't have
a partner being like you're doing a great job. Like my boyfriend says it to me, is like you're such a great mom, and it's so sweet. And then I'm also like, but I still you don't do you know what I'm trying to say, Like, I just don't feel like I need to freaking crown or pat on the back, but I also like some appreciation to be like, hey, I appreciate all the work you do. I don't know, but that's because I shouldn't because you'r mom so well. Also,
I just don't think you're gonna get it from him. Yeah, And and that's probably where you're seeking it. It is in a weird way. I'm gonna get it like in this kind of like weird like I just want you to acknowledge, like you only have thirty or whatever percent
of the time, but you're doing a great job. And I just don't think you're gonna get Yes, yeah, I only have let me put myself mathematics, you know what I mean, right, But I think that's where you're seeking it is from him, and you're just not going to get it from him. And that's things on this one. My therapist tells me all the time, you cannot go to the hardware store for bread lots the same therapist
because you told me milk. So yeah, I have a dairy intolerance along with a lot of other intolerances today. So and the other thing I think that I I struggled with when I became a state at home mom is that And I think a lot of moms feel this way, even if you're not a state at home mom. But like there's no like annual review for us. There's no like hauling you into the office and tell you all the great things you've done or just how you're
nailing it. I mean you can kind of. You have to find your winds kind of disguised and a little you have to dust them off sometimes to be able to see them. And it just feels like a little defeating sometimes because you're clients aren't the most grateful, you know, Like I feel like they won't see it until they were like twenties to be like, wow, mom, thanks for everything with it. You know, they're better see it in their twenties better. I'm they may not. They may not.
They may be in therapy complaining about us. I don't know therapy for opposite reasons of me. They're going to be in therapy because I smother them and I breathe their air every five seconds. We're doing the best we can. I will say that my ex he did say, like, Janna, even if like you did, He's like, I know how you operate. Even if you did have the time off. He's like, you're still going to be working really hard.
I'm like, yes, So it's like I think it eventually, like he was able to acknowledge and like see and then he's like I'm trying to be He's like, I would like to be helpful, and I'm like, well, I do offer. It's just schedules are always so hard, you know, so but hopefully we'll get into some kind of rhythm.
And I just but that really bummed me out because I'm like a lot of the comments that I was reading is like when would because I'm almost afraid to post when I'm in England because I'm afraid of like the shamers to be like, oh there she is again, not with her kids. I'm like that if I had a week on week off schedule like most families or something. Not most, but like a lot of people at fifty fifty,
like they're not getting shame for going away. No, no, And here's the deal, you're just I mean that it's they're going to complain about something. But it's the it's the moms and the women complaining to It's not a man, do mean this. It's because they are jealous of the fact that they can't do that. Now you do have the means, so how can they don't say to the guys, you only had to kiss of the time, it's reflecting themselves.
It's just reflecting. So with all the time they spend hating on you online, they could get a hobby or take a trip. Yeah. Well, I mean like I'm just kind of like, yeah, I'm keeping things more private, even though hilarious the message that christ And sent me the other day or us too on h on our group chat, She's like, wait, what did you say? You're like, I
can't breathe, it's out. What happened? Oh no, At first I tested the accuracy and the I was actually just testing to make sure the group chat worked because it was there was no group chat happening. It was silent. And then all of a sudden, and I haven't been scrolling on Instagram as part of my way of caring for myself, and all of a sudden, I see that we've gone public, and I was like, just first, let me just test and see if the group chat works,
because I think I've missed several things. You know, how I found wait, how did you find found out? From getting tagged from someone that was like did you know? And I was like, well I do, now I had no idea. Well, I figured it's the last podcast we mentioned his name, so the I'm like, you know, it's screw it. Like he was in town for those sweet twenty something hours and then we went to the One hotel, which is you know, where we had our first date, and so I said it would kind of be cute too.
It was cute, snap a little pie. I was so speaking of though, And no, we did not meet on Riyah. Can I just clear that one off right now? We did not meet on Riya? So what is? Can you clarify what Riot is? For people that don't know what Riot is? What is but Ryan? I know? But outside of our world, not a lot of people know about. Is like a celebrity slash friends of coolish job dating app. So it some you know, I've seen a bunch of people on there that you know, our actors and musicians
and but he and athlete athletes. He was not. We did not meet on Riyah. I have so much to say about all of that. I just I don't know. I just I'm like, how does this stuff people just assume that, like we put that stuff out there, and it's just infuriating to me. It's just just so fresh and I like your mood today, I'm kind of feisty today,
I'd no, I don't know. I'm just like over that, you know, I'm over that narrative that we just like let's just throw it out there to all the stupid tabloids that I mean, it's not even like news like you know what I mean, It's like Ellen's coming in town, right, I don't know. It's just silly to me. But I
was coming to church. I did sweet boy. I didn't get to like talk to him much boy church, but man was chilly, and I thought you were going to comment on it because he was wearing a turtle neck because he always has a turtle mick on whenever he talks to KB. I feel like I've only seen I love a man um So how did you do then? With like the window after posting? Honestly, haven't even looked. Don't care, Oh good God, don't care at all. Good
for you. The only thing that bothers me is when people now at the moment is when they attack my motherhood. Or that's why I'm like, yeah, I'm going to England because I'm I'm taking a week out of this month. Like that's something that my ex and I discuss, like, hey, can I have a week somewhere to be able to
have time to go over there. Um and you know, uh and just have some time and uh so yeah, so, but I feel almost guilty to say that I'm there, Like genuinely was thinking, like, Okay, I don't want to post it because I don't want people to think that I'm not with my kids. Yeah are terrible. You're just gonna have to live your life. Oh I am, and you and their dad has them, You gave them, gave him that option. It's not even yeah. I'm like, it's
the thing. I'm like, they think I'm withholding too. I'm like, no, I've I always offer. That's the it's in the contract. You have to it's first fail. So you know, they think that you don't. That's and I'm like, oh my gosh, but you know, I do feel like we're at least on a really good um. Him and I are really doing a good job of co parenting. Sometimes it's just hard having that when one parent has more of the
responsibility and the pressure and the workload. It's it can be I have a hard time when something that triggers me to not be like, you have no idea what I'm like do you have no idea what I'm like doing? And like how hard? Like you know? So it's I have to balance that, which I then called them was like, I'm sorry, that's not I don't need to be saying
that to you. That's not that's not yours to hear anymore. Yeah, Hi, guys, I kind of want to go back to I want to go back, like way back, like the hills, Laguna Beach back. Yes, and we have Steven Clutty in the waiting room, so let's take a break and then get him on. Oh so excited to have Stephen Clutty on Wine Downy back to the back to the beach, babe. What's so it's like the opposite of winding down in
the afternoon. I want the audience to know that it is in the morning here in Los Angeles, rising and shining for the Wine Down podcast. And um, yeah, I'm expecting some sort of a delivery, a door dash of maybe a bloody Mary or something. What do you guys got coming for me? I'm a child myself. That's that's enough. Do you want How old are you? How old are you? Stephen? I am thirty six. I turned thirty seven in a week depending on when this comes out February seven, then
we're thirty seven. I feel like you're always going to be twenty six or twenty because when did we do one? Like, I feel like you're always going to be twenty four to me? Oh, I mean yeah, I um, I feel you know, I think I feel somewhere in my my late twenties. Yeah, well we'll say that I hopefully. But um, I love that you you know, I feel that that I'm definitely for much more immature for my age. No, you just you haven't aged a second. I mean you still look exactly how you were, very kind of you.
You see how we want to say it back because I have definitely aged you still like three. Okay, So whose whose idea was it to do back to the beach with you and Kristin. Well, it's something I wanted to do for a while. It's something that um, yeah, I thought about. Um. I think the first time I talked about it actually with with MTV was in in
two thousand eighteen. Um, I brought it up in just a general meeting with them about some things, and yeah, I think from there um and it had just been you know, it's been circling my mind for a while, and I thought, you know, entering the podcast space was something that was interested in doing. And really, I think the only thing people would care about what I had to say was was my experience on that show, um or at least be the more you know, worthwhile for them.
So yeah, that's it was. It was mine from the jump. And um yeah after you know, we did a little reunion with some of the cast Forget Out the Vote Back and let's see how that was a couple of years ago now, um, and that was you know, we had a great experience to everybody, and and you know, we we never really got together and spoke about everything, and so yeah, we we felt like after that, everyone was like, we gotta get together and do that again
or all be in the same place. And and so I felt like, um, you know, this space was was
a good spot for that. So I know, obviously you were in high school when you were doing Laguna Beach and when I were talking to Audrina a lot of things and she's like, I wish I would have had more of a voice, um with how maybe the producers would have um asked me to do certain things where I felt kind of like not forced in a way to like to to to do to do X, and um, maybe that she wishes that she could kind of go back and have more of a voice is or something
where I obviously I know you're not a big regret person, but is there something where you were like, Okay, I wish I could have maybe done this differently. Yeah, I mean there's there's there's a lot if you look at I mean, what were you doing in high school, Like, do you look back on some of the things that you're doing and going like, oh man, I wish I
handled that differently. You know, there's there's a lot. I mean I think that, um, we truly underestimated the power of what the editing was going to be with the show and how the storylines can really be carved into what the editors and producers desired. I think it was just so naive back then. Um, and they recorded so many hours of us Like I mean, it wasn't an everyday deal, but they just had so much footage and you really didn't know until the show came out, so
by that point it was it was too late. But you know, I look back at a few times, especially watching the show you see times were clearly I've been drinking and I'm drunk, and it's like you you like that on camera. It's not that's that's not you know, um classy in any way, not attractive at all. And and it's cringe e to watch, especially when you're an eighteen year old kid and just the things that come
flying out of your mouth at that age. And and yeah, so I think, you know, I look back at some moments like that when I tell people, you know, if they're ever gonna get on the reality show, you know, you just just be careful with monitoring the intake there. H Do you feel like the producer you guys then got like taking advantage of them with that situation. I mean, I I look, we were I take responsibility for my actions. Um, you know everything I did at that age. Uh yeah,
I I I could only put it there. But look, I mean it's it's something where you know when um, if if you look at a lot of shows in reality TV now, I think that those moments where you know the producers are hoping it's going to kind of go there, they never put us in those positions, those positions and tried to encourage it on us. In fact, that they did the opposite over there. They you know, they told us that that we couldn't drink. Now, um,
you know, were they gonna enforce it? No what I have and if I was in their position, no, trying to make a TV show and they know what gets good stuff. Um, but yeah, I mean, you know, the show that they created in the environment for us to kind of live and um, you know, be kids, was was always a comfortable one. The one that you know, we enjoyed the crew. The crew was amazing, and the people we were on the show with we really had
a great time with. But um, you know, you look back hindsight obviously here on on a lot of okay, what I could have done differently, and maybe you know, they were definitely situations where I'm sure you know, gave him the truth. Serum. They were hoping that like on these nights, the kids were gonna partake a little bit and have a little fun and let loose and that will make for some juicy TV. And sure enough it happened.
So at the end of the day, I signed up to be on the show, So I know, I couldn't even imagine though looking back on our our real high school, high school, real you know, and then to have that then to have to go back and watch it. You know. The thing that I love about doing it now, for so many years that show was in a very weird
place in my life. Um. It's just again the shock of when it came out and what it was and what they were highlighting and the pieces that they use, especially back then when you know, every the episodes are twenty two and it's and they have to jam that stuff in. So they're just like, it's just what are like, what's the stuff that's gonna you know, it's catched the most eyeballs and be the most the shock value of course, um,
and so all that's that's the stuff that's making it in. UM. So you know, for years after that, it was just you know, in denial that the thing basically existed, you know, a very odd relationship with it all, and thought it was silly to get the attention, um for for just like being a bunch of knuckleheads at that at that time in our life, you know. Um. But the great thing about getting older and you know, maturing and reflecting
on on times in your life. I you know, I look back at it now and I'm able to, you know, have a laugh and and um be very thankful and grateful that we've we've made it this far and we're not at that point in our life anymore. And we've grown up a lot, so you know, it's it's an interesting little reminder of maybe how far we've come and and um, how much I had to learn at an age when you really thought you had you had it all kind of figured out, right. I mean I thought
I had it all figured out at twenty six. You know it's like you still every kind of like ten years and like definitely didn't have figure out of eighteen, not at twenty. It's like we're always growing, We're always learning, no matter what age we are, we're still figuring it out. You know. Yeah, I was, I think, Um, I don't know, I felt like I was Uh, I was running around
like almost with an air of invincibility. You know. It's the responsibility at that age is low, right, and um, you know it's just I feel like somebody said to me at one point when I was younger, you enjoy this time of your life because it's when you know you're going to have the most fun that your responsibilities low take advantage of this time. And I took that to heart, and I through caution into the wind quite a bit, and and and let loose at that point
in my life. And um, you know it's I'm I'm having much more fun at this point in my life here at thirty six, possibly thirty of it depends when this episode comes up, being much more mature and and thinking more about the decisions I'm making and you know how they're going to um reflect on me maybe down the road a little bit. So yeah, I mean an interesting time and quite an interesting experience to have that that documented and for people to still watch it to
this day. Yeah. So I like in our day and age now. So back when you guys were doing Laguna Beach in the Hills and I was an avid watcher, not gonna lie. Um, she was, are you I'm glad you did? That? Makes like four of us so that I'm done road rules. That was cool, my brother and I said. When my brother sent in a video and we did the whole things. You guys speaking of editing, um, yeah you know about it. No one needs to go
google that. But in our day and age now, I feel like we have kids that are eighteen, nineteen seventeen, even documenting their lives on their own. So is there any piece of the Ghost of Stephen Future would give them, any piece of advice for Like, I can't imagine having cameras on me at eighteen. I mean even when I did road Rules, it was like I was twenty four, twenty five, and even that was a complete So is
there anything you would say to them? Like, you know, I think that sometimes people missed the piece of post reality TV show. You want to go get a real job, or you want to get like a not a real job. But you know what I'm saying, Like you go try to apply for something that has like a four one pay and you're like, uh, you know, there's You're there's some based on your character that's already been documented in people have seen. So is there anything you would tell
people now to caution them are sweet younger generation? Yeah? I mean I truly didn't understand, um, you know how long lasting some of my actions would be at that point one in my life going on the show. So you know, you've got to know and think that, look, whatever is happening on camera during this time is going to follow you for the rest of your life. And you need to sit in thought with that for a
while and understand how kind of profound that is. And with the actions that you're going to take going forward on screen or on camera. Um and with that, you know, as I kind of mentioned earlier, I think one thing for me was letting my judgment fall by the wayside, which is of course drinking a lot on camera and those I mean, yeah, that that's just not a great look.
I think that was a big one for me looking back. Um, So I would just stress I would stress that point and and and to even get involved, you know, I think you would have to really have a plan of something, of of what you want to do. If if you've got something that a brand that you eventually want to go down and sell, I think going down that road there needs to be a strategy of of why you're
doing it. Um I do think you should still be yourself and if you're comfortable with yourself and who you are, then that's good. But don't try to be somebody you're not. But I would go I would take it as as a business decision, you know, not necessarily as a a life experience. I'm going to go do road Rules or some sort of a show just to like get some life experience and the move on with my life because
it's just not worth it. It's not worth the you know, I think the risk of what you're putting yourself in, the situation you're putting yourself in and when you know those laps of jud judgment that occur. Um, you know, there's a camera rolling and now it's there for the rest of your life. So is so is also Instagram and Twitter. It's like every anything you say, and that's like because like now our reality world is our Instagram,
our stories and everything else we put out there. So it's you say one bad, wrong thing when you're eighteen twenties, it's gonna come back and haunt you. It's gonna you're gonna it's like you do a story and you're singing a song and you say the wrong world. It's like it's those things like it's it's you're living your own reality show in your hands. Ess. I was just gonna say, it's it's interesting how everyone's got their own little version
of their personal reality show. Who have any sort of a public profile um or also even a lot of you know, private profiles that have you know, people that are broadcasting things to their friends. It's it's, you know, it's it's interesting to see that. Um. And yeah, I think that you know, you're seeing the um consequences for those actions when when those laps of judgment judgment happened across all sorts of of you know, um a fields. I mean, I you see it with you know, performers
and with with with athletes, people and politics. You know, they they go on Twitter and they pop something off or they think they're being funny and and again who knows, who knows if they've had drinks or something in there and they're they're just jumping on Twitter, which I definitely do not alright, do not recommend stuff stuff like that where you know it's again it's out there and then you could try to delete it, but it's somebody's already
got it. Um. And you're seeing people, you know having to pay the price for that, you know, all the time. It's very interesting. All right. I want to talk about the dynamic between you and Kristen because obviously people that watch the show, that have followed y'all, there's always been that little thread of connection, right, so it's my high school sweetheart. There will always be something there from my high school sweetheart. Just always there's that love, that eighteen
year old first love, UM thing. And I'm just curious, like how cool it is to do this show with her, and because there's so much respect, so much love that's there to kind of go all right, look at what we lived through and everything we went through because those were still real emotions, and then how you guys are today to be able to kind of like come together full circle, but also knowing that like there will always be that like deep love there. Well, I think it's
you know, we would through so much. Everyone who was on the show together, we went through a lot, and um, you know we never spoke about it. You know, UM kind of alluded to this earlier, but it's just, you know, I think we were all kind of grasping with what
the show was at different times and in different ways. Definitely, And you know, you're still so young and and you really don't know how to process those emotions, and UM, it's taken years and and as us have gone on, little moments have popped up for us to have a chat about it. And when we did this, um, you know they will get out the vote deal. Um all
came together for that. It was a positive experience. We all went into it very nervous and you know, and even talking with Kristen about, you know, doing the podcast, it was like, you know, what is this going to look like? And and and we want to do this. Um, you know, it's opening up a whole can of worms of emotions of what we went with, what we went
through and doing the show. So you guys talked about the cheating incident, which you know, I would love to talk to me about my high school sweetar about fact that he cheated on me and say highands like I kind of want to talk about it, you know, because there's still feelings that you had, you know what I mean, Like there's still like the great thing about yeah, you know, being twenty years later here is is it's you know, we're just we're all so far removed from those moments
in our life and we've all gone on, you know, do different things, and and I have matured quite a bit, and so you know, you look back at it as you know, Um, it's kind of like I almost I look back at as like a character I played at some point, you know. Um, it's it's just such a different time. Um. And so we were all cast members and working on this show and and uh, here we are. Here, we are, all these years later able to come back and and discuss it. Um. And it's cool to do that.
And yes that ultimately, the fact that it was real life at that point, um, you know it it makes it I think unique in its way. But again it's still you know, we're so far removed from it. Everyone's kind of moved on with their lives. That's nice. So to be able to go back and like kind of repair that I would think, you know, I mean, how many people really get to go down twenty years later and go to their X and like repair that relationship. That's got to be kind of nice and a relief
in a way. Yeah, And I just want yeah, I mean yeah, it's I don't think it's it's it's really anything that we were. Anyone's like holding onto anything. You know. Again, you look back at that point in your life and it's it's it's another lifetime ago. And yeah, I just um, it's more it's it's fun being able to go through those moments and things that happened on the show and and just take the piss out of it, you know, and and just you know, give each other and and um,
you know, laugh about it now. It makes it fun and it makes again the whole experience much more of an easier pilla. Is there one episode that's coming up that you're like, I just do not want to discuss. No, we nothing, nothing is is. I haven't been afraid of anything with this, you know, it was the one thing was probably the combo episode in the first season, but um, I was. I was looking forward to talking about it because again it's one of those things where I, of
course I don't even remember what happened that day. I didn't even know what was going to be in the episode. I got a little bit of like, uh oh, yeah, you're you know, you're pretty drunk that night down to Cabo, and I kind of knew because some friends said, you know, we had to take you home, that kind of a deal.
But like, as far as what ultimately was on the show was I was seeing for the first time when it basically came out, and um, that was very shocking, and you know, it's barrassed for my family and for myself, and um, you know, I was looking forward to just kind of making peace with that, I guess, and and saying, you know, um, having a proper chat about it, because people have brought it up with me over over the years, and it's come up here and there, and I realized
that it was you know, a moment that was the people remembered a lot from the show, and so um, you know, I just, yeah, I needed to to have you know, um a little debrief about it, and and of course being able to talk to Christen about it. Um, yeah, I was, you know, I was happy to do so instead of these little remarks in an interview cover you know, wherever down down the road here, Um, it was better to kind of sit down, watch it and um and and have a little discussion about it. So we're glad
that was in the past. Yeah, and we're in the second season of the show. The second season, I was was barely in the show. I was trying not to be on the show, and uh, for that, I just get to kind of just sit back and you know, watch what's happening and watch a play out and a lot of these episodes I'm seen for the first time. I didn't the second season I barely watched when it came out, and so I'm learning all sorts of new things. And these are familiar faces to me, of course, because
I went to high school all these kids. So I'm learning about all the juicy gossip from two thousand five. Yeah, you're like, wait, what did that happened? Jason said, what. I love his transformation too. He has become a good friend of mine in the mental health world. And so that's been because watching him back on the hills too. I mean that was that was like that Jason like crazy, you know, so I know a very different version. Didn't he wear combat boots to the beach? Did he? I
don't know. Yah, I got a lot of rewatching today. If there was to be a One Tree Hill reboot, would you would you give Alas the second chance? No? He hated Alex. You know, if that gets us, if that gets it's on the show, right. We got to get a storyline on there. I mean, there's so many characters that have been on One Tree Hill over the years d eight seven episodes they're going to do do a reboot? I mean, do we make the cut? I
mean we're like, here's our storyline. Yeah, we like, this is what's going to happen Chase and alexis I know, I know you're so Mia, like you always chose me because she was like the more, but I think you would have been bored of her. So I just like, I have definitely come around. I'm now a lovely housewife, but I still have my fund things you need more rolling around naked into bed, it's all I remember. Oh my gosh, how many scenes do we have where we
had to just we was just that's my memory of you. Yeah. I literally wasponset for the first time ever before we started working together, and I like walk on set and Danna was like, hey, just step y and she like goes and you're in your tidy way. I was like, okay,
let's go. What they don't know? A picture from the there's a picture from the show that that circles from time to time where I'm literally in whitey tidies sitting at the edge of the bed that my I'm in my pink little remember that is like the segue into Alex because that sweet girl must really have some thick skin. She's stunning. How's that going. I just really want I really want to get us I was like, which, Alex,
imagine dating like it. I can't imagine dating someone because I'm actually married to a country artist and he was a forty year old bachelor when we met, and that has come with its own slew of scrap book memories to just keep, and so I can't imagine someone being in such a spotlight and having all these like things like how does that affect a relationship? I mean, obviously, you guys are growing mature, wonderful people. I don't know
her personally, she's beautiful, I matter, she's awesome. Name like, she's just gunning anyone that looks like her really has much insecurity. But when these things come up, I mean, is that ever just tricky for you? Guys are just like it is what I mean, you and Whitey Tidys is something that can circle around, and that's not something
I have to deal with her. Yeah, no, No, she understands, she's she's always been supportive and yeah, I mean, um, we've been Yeah, we've been in a great relationship here and she's known from you know, very early on. You know, I was signed up to do the podcast before you know, getting into this relationship, and so um, yeah, I'd let her know and she you know, she understands, you know, of course, UM, just my history and the experience that we had with that show, and UM, she's been very
supportive and I can't ask much from her. She's she's been amazing with it. And she's a wonderful person who you know, at the end of the day, she supports me and what I'm doing in my career and and um, you know what I want to do, and UM, you know she's on board. We're a team together. So are you a fan? You know, I was growing up, I I watched a lot of NASCAR, and I had I was a fan of a specific driver and I would
follow it, um for for years. And then it kind of as a driver that I was a fan of retired, I kind of lost a little bit of interest. And then now, of course getting together with Alex it's you know, I've been re energizing the NASCAR world. I've been going to a few races. I've been going to a few more this year. I'm excited about. She's in l A right now. There's the a clash at the Colosseum that's happening this weekend that that we're going to and I'm
and I'm really looking forward to that. But I always joke with her and say that I was a NASCAR driver in my first life, So, um, this is this is kind of kismet in a way and not surprising, but yeah's amazing. She works really hard for them. I mean she she travels. This year, she's going to be at most of the races and for the next correspondent,
right for NASCAR. Yeah, she's a reporter. Yep. She's worked within NASCAR for six years now, and um, yeah, I's done all sorts of different shows for them, works in studio, works on track. She's a girl's girlfriend short because I told her, I said, hey, there's this one NASCAR guy that reached out and shows oh no, no, no, no, do not respond, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Okay, thank you. She's on the inside of all of it. She knows what's up. So but yeah, and she's I mean, she's working.
She's going every race for the next few months, has to be on the road, so which, Yeah, she works really hard in that space and it's really cool to see her do her thing. A closet NASCAR fan and Ryan Newman has always been my guy. Oh there you go, nothing about neither. Literally that's I was like, yeah, he had that big crash and I was very serious. Yeah yeah, And then I'll bring it back to things people want to probably know about, but I need to know who
your driver was, because in NASCAR world, who's your driver matters. Yeah. So I had a Earnhardt car, Dale Sr. When my dad gave me a car when I was a kid. And then again, I think there was that need for speed, uh, that was there early on, and so I thought NASCAR was really cool. Anytime that we went to the go kart place, I would always kick ass there. I'm not
afraid about it right now. I never got less than first place, so um, I appreciate so that once after of course, for those who don't know Dale, this this driver we're talking about, he did pass away on track and and he had a son um that that excelled in the sport, Dale Earnhardt Jr. And so I became a fan of his and followed him up until he retired. So but now, yeah, I'm learning about all the new drivers and I am I'm a free agent right now as far as my fandom. But we're we're we're honing
in on a couple of guys, so I love it. Offline, we have a few suggestions of who not to root for. Okay, I think I think I might know probably on the same All right, Stephen, we'll wrap this up. What what's going on? What's next? Um? And yeah, tell us everything so that we can be rooting for our beloved Chase. Stephen so well, I, um, you know, we've got some very exciting things going on with everyone is doing great in season two. Um. So yeah, look forward to sharing
more about that with people very soon. Awesome. Well, thank you Stephen so much for coming on the show. Always amazing seeing you and saying, hey, so I'm rooting for a reboot. Yeah, there you go. We gotta find our way on there. Jam we gotta figure out our storyline and pitch it an X, write your story. Let's go to be an extra all right, Stephen, You're the best season by Stephen, are you? Guys? Oh? He's the sweetest. I just love Stephen always, always like I love that
he was my scene partner in Onetree Home. He's just even though Alex wanted Austin or Julian, but I just Stephen was the best. He was so fun and like I watched Laguna Beach, so I was excited to meet him and I thought I didn't know how he would be, but he was so cool, like just a normal dude. Yeah, I say something that is going to get me kicked off the show? Does anything mean about One Tree Hill? You're never a lot, you know, Yeah, that's not gonna
not mean. You know, I never watched One Tree Hill because I think it was the generation just after me. Like I think, I like, I know people in early thirty. Well, Captaine's gonna take offense. I watched it, but she watched every episode did but it was like our young twenties for me, I think like early early twenties. But now it's a whole resurgence of it, so like you can
hop more with all the teenagers now. Well, now I have to watch because I really am like I've never watched I've never watched there's men in their long Yeah, it's hard now the way that we're like used to how TV is now. But I love TV, So I should just start over and watch it again. You should, I'll start with you. The problem is is there's so many and I don't even know how we would get together that often to watch them. You got to finished.
We could watch like every like other or we finally got to jam I seen I watch it with you. It would be kind of fun. That would be kind of fun. I mean, I guess I've never watched it. So when minus a few episodes, but are really loyal, like I mean you're yeah, there's there's good there's good lessons,
there's yeah, absolutely free lines for sure. So I haven't seen Steven since Steven was wasted in combo basically, yeah, so that's crazy because he's like when he said he's thirty, it's Steven Eves, So when he's dizzy's thirty six almost thirty seven, and like he lives in my brain also like he's twenty three or twenty four. Like that's the last time I saw him was like a reunion show,
I think. But like we were that age. I know, it's well, I wasn't there a few basically we were the we we're growing up with them, Like I have a question. Hold on one second, I'm so curious where this is going. I know, curious, I get scared, you get curious. Oh no, we can't. Um, we've got news coming in a few weeks. M h, don't worry, stay tuned, don't. We're not trying to tease you, guys. It'll come soon, it will yes. Uh, well, guys, good episode. I love you guys very much. I love you, I love you.
I actually really needed a little line down today for my soul. You got you got the house, Quiet, tell your family well done, and maybe go out there and go sorry. I just really you have to tell you don't have to apologize. We're still actually you don't have to apologize for wanting and meeting quiet and time sixty. You've got ten more minutes, So what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do with the ten minutes? The question hand and ball into the pool alone? When are
we back to a room together? I want to get back from England end of next week and next week hug Alan for I will you know, I will thank you, Republics. Bye
