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mean you kind of said it best. Yeah, I know, like it's just good for your soul, you know. I mean it's like we're moms, you know most of the times, and we're coaches and we're you know, grinding it out and then just to like go and feel sexy and just know that you have like that side of you two is just a good feeling that we should all do often. Yeah, I know, it's true. And even when we were like trying on clothes, I was like, I feel kind of sexit Like is that like you know,

I could have done without the heels. That part was a little rough, but yeah, but I mean it was you know, like to your point, like Pamela, like you're you're the kid's soccer coach, and you know, it's it's it is nice to just like change it up a little bit and and have you know, and feel feel I feel like you's still got it. Yeah, I know. I say like it was good. It was needed for my soul as much as for yours. You know. Yeah, but it was fun. We we had some good times.

We got on a yacht, we had Yeah, it was it was all. It was all fun. But I'm so excited for this podcast because we have someone who is she's a legend. I mean, I'm so excited. Yeah, she's I mean, she's she's she's amazing, and she is going to Vegas because Shania Twain. So we have on. So that's why I wanted to have my girls in the show, because you know, let's go, girls, let's go. We just went. But now we're like now you know, Shania Twain is going to come on, and there's just so many things.

Actually I was when I was cleaning out because you know, the house is being cleared of things, and so I'm but I kind of love, uh, I like to get rid of things. You know, so purging is so good. So but when I was going through some of the boxes in the addict and kind of separating our stuff, I saw these videos that my aunt sent me and she had took them from a VCR, which is so funny, by the way, because it's a VCR tape, and then she converted it to a DVD. But now I don't

have anywhere to play the DVD. We can get you a DVD player, because it's a me lip sinking to Shania Twain when I was in ninth grade, like, I'm wearing my mom's prom dress, her like black nineteen the eighties prompt or seventies prom dress, and I'm lip sinking that. I'm sure it's I mean, we have ever they get it on a drive? How do I do that? Okay? It is it already a DVD. It's a DVD. We can go to Target by a DVD player they still exist, or Walmart. It'll be all right, there are still DVD players.

They're not extinct. We can do it. We're not that old. I mean, will our kids ever buy a DVD player? Though? No? CD? No, isn't that kind of sad. I was in church their day did you see the message in church their day where he was he was basically like he was the lost art, like of all these things and that was like a boom box and like boom box, and then he then the DVD player and because it's all those things, that's kind of like, I don't know, getting off on

a tangent, but um, what is your's favorite twins? Oh? Any man of mine for sure, who's under who's been heavy bootsmen? And then any man in mine? I feel like that should be my mom better be proud of me, even when ugly and for a date that's fun. Yes, I have a good voice. Oh oh that's good one of our producers. Honey, I'm home in our day home. Have a dog bone. Hey, hey, honey, I'm home. She just has so many, so many and that just I feel like resonate with just so many people, you know,

I can't wait to talk to her. Um. Yeah, I'm immediately in a better mood because I feel like today, you know when you just wake up in a funk, that was me today. I mean, I know I have a lot of life changes, but like it wasn't even because of that. I just kind of woke up like me annoyed. He can bring you joy though. Oh she for sure ken, I mean obviously, but her story is fascinating. Yeah.

I have a lot of questions because she I have a lot of questions, A lot of questions because she married, so she got divorced to her he was producer, got divorced from him, who basically he I don't want to say like he made. I hate when it's like he made her, but I mean like his he had a lot to do with her success and her sound and all that she made herself. But I mean he helped, uh you know, get it out there in a in

a really thank you off um. But they got divorced and then her husband now was the best friend of the It's just like, how do I how do I describe the girl that he was cheating on with. Yeah, it's like a couple of best friends. And so they just like swapped. I don't know if I could do that, and like are they all cool? Now? That's like if I was like you you know what I mean, like you know, like you married Mike, Oh, let's not go

that far. And then and then you know, I'm married Nick, and it's like that I don't know, but I didn't even imagine, Like I know one other couple that that happened to just like a you know, family kind of friend situation. Um, and no, they didn't hang out. I mean I didn't hang out. And you wonder like, was there like those kind of you know, underlying feelings. Well obviously for for her ex husband and the woman obviously, because I mean they were but then again, maybe she

had the feelings too though for him. I'm saying it might have been something there already. See that's like so interesting to me because that would eat me up every time I'm like, oh we had that like game night, like were you given giving each other eyes? And then was I giving the other guy eyes? Like? I mean, I love how things always work out, but it is interesting. I would just trust you know, that was probably like God's plan from the beginning and we just have to

roll with it. Right. Oh, that'd be a hard one to I'm all about God's plan and I am all about God's plans too, but I I you know, my X ends up with one of my best friends, that's going to be a really hard I'm pretty sure that's not gonna that will never happen. Maybe it's God's plans. All right, take it back, But I'm saying she's so happy, you know what I mean for her to be with him, you know, I mean, you know, do we know how long after she got with the man? No, I don't

have questions. Sorry, I'm not gonna ask that questions. Never mind. It is interesting though, Um, but I am should we go to Vegas? I feel like we have to go to Vegas for this residency because I've never seen her live. I mean I listened to her all the time. You have to go and it's going to be December. And in December, so we had divorce party. We're going to have like now we're gonna have let's go girls, because

now it's all about positive and happy. Yeah, it'll be like six months after D Day and that's when you kind of you know, let's go girls. It's perfect. Holy moly. Well, I'm so excited and I can't wait to get the one and only Shania Twain on Wine Down after the break. Oh we're gonn. I'm so excited. Okay, so Shania will be on soon. But I just got come from should that. I believe we are going to the opening night in Vegas to see Shaniya Let's go girls on my birthday.

Like things are looking up guys, you know, you know the other day, Katherine, when you were in the podcast and you're like, I'm excited for you. I'm excited see there. Yeah, it just takes a few months. Oh, I'm so happy to be like on the trip with you, you know, like I mean on the journey, you know, like I just cannot wait, Like I just know it's going to be beautiful. What is it for like friends when they go through that, because it's like I see, like I'm

so thankful for y'all. But what is it like for on the other side of things? I mean, you know, with me, I mean cripe, I got sick, you know, just from like dealing, um, dealing with all of it going down, Like it literally took me to an illness. Um. So it's I mean because I just care, you know, like I mean, I just love you so much. And it was like so um, like deep and layered and you know, like sad and for so many levels. But I am just so proud of you know, like how

you've come out of this so far. And it's like only the beginning, and I'm just I'm proud as hell of you. Like I'm so proud. I mean I could cry, you know, because we didn't know me and we didn't know how this was going to go down. Yeah, I mean we didn't know. But at the same time, I knew we'd get here, so I wasn't as like, I knew we'd get here eventually. And now that we're here, ladies, let's get Shania on the funnies. Oh there you are, Shania.

Oh my goodness, girl, I can't even First of all, my name is Janna, this is Catherine, and this is Pamelin. Thank you so much for doing this podcast. I'm just like, you are an idol of mine for for so many years, so this is a true honor. Well it's I mean, the plugure is mine. Thank you, Thanks for having me. So you are going back on tour. You are going

to be doing your residency in Vegas. How excited are you just to get back, especially with everything that's been going on the last year or so well, I mean it's already been over a year. I was, you know, just doing my show in Vegas and in March Plug got pulled, like you know, for every like everybody else, and I never got a chance to say goodbye to the fans, to the you know, to the dancers, to

the band, to the crew. So um, I'm just ready to get back and get in a big hug, I mean, just like you know, old fashioned hug and have fun again and and be together for sure. I mean, what's what makes this different this time around? I mean what, like, obviously it's been a while since you've gone out and performed, but is there something where you're just gonna are you gonna like take it in a little bit more, or is there one thing that you're just like really looking

forward to to doing again. I mean, I've missed Vegas, and I mean I'm like I say, like I'm I've been lonely for Vegas and does not make any sense really, but um, I've just missed uh being in the spirit of Las Vegas and on the stage sharing what I love and what I do. I mean, I've created this show and all this fashion and all this um music and design, and I'm not able to share it. So there's nothing more frustrating than that. So um, it's gonna be a big relief. It's gonna be I think it'll

be emotional too. Um, just being able to reconnect with everybody again. And and I've even got like a little another little party share in the show. So are you guys already rehearsing or will you all have to wait a little while or how wout that work this go around? Um, I'll go into rehearsals probably um late November, and um yeah, and then all the and ends. I'm going to be adding a little you know, like holiday spirit to the

show as well. Being December and my first you know time back after so long, so I'll be doing something holiday in there which will be just great and heartfelt. And then oh and then in February, she scored me, I have more shows in February, and I'm going to do a very like romantic theme show on Valentine's Day. So I'm just busy being like anxious and impatient about getting back and coming up with more things to add

in the show. Um. So on a personal note, I'm I'm going through a divorce right now, and obviously I know that we share that in common. Is there one thing that you can tell me or that something that helped you kind of regain your confidence, regain your energy and your light again after um that you know that breakup. Oh that's I'm sorry to hear that. Um. Even you know sometimes it's for the better to be a part

and you know, not to not be together. But um, even just through this COVID bit, I would say that my advice is to search for your own Um. I mean I always used the word escape because I like to get You know, you've got to use your imagination. You have to dig deep and say, okay, where is my happy place? And um, get yourself unstuck. There's no easy way and you're the only person that can do it. So I don't know if you're stuck, but um, I

certainly was when I got divorced. And I know a lot of people feel stuck now with this COVID and um the isolation and all the limitations. So we have I go to music, for example, So I turned to music. That is my inspiration. That is where I say, Okay, I want to feel happy. I need to feel happy, I need to feel good, I need to feel confident, I need to feel uplifted. And I go to music.

That's my medicine. Yeah, I love that. And when you weren't able to go to music for those years when you took the break, Like what, um did you feel lost or what other things did you do to like, you know, find your your identity and like find yourself again. I always go to whatever it is that makes me feel happy. And sometimes it's just um the roses. I mean, I know what that might sound really like corny, but

I love that, you know, being in nature. My child at the time when I lost comes a new mom. So um, I just dove into being the best mom I could and loving that. And I think and I filled up. I think wherever your gaps are or your um emptiness is, you have to fill out up with other things. You just um, you got to fill them

up with things that make you feel good. And what about when you know that new relationship or that new kind of like flirt comes in, Like was it hard for you to open yourself back up again to that? Because I feel like I'm like, I'm excited, and I know that I deserve that because I haven't had I

haven't been happy for a really long time. But I also am like I get scared because like, oh my gosh, is it too soon or like you know, should so it's like I'm I'm I'm almost like fighting with myself when it's like, why shouldn't I just be you know, will allow that flirt to happen or allow this to like come into my life. So I'm just curious, like

how you went away through that. I think it's a I personally think it's a good thing to care about yourself enough to hum, I'm all into something that's going to make you unhappy again, I would say, focus on yourself and if you're not, even if you're I just think patience is a great great thing to exercise. And when you're falling in love again and it's all moven fun. Um, I don't know. I think sometimes waiting a little bit is a good thing. It makes you dream more, makes

it even better in the end. And I say, don't rush. If you're not fighting, If you're fighting with yourself, um, you're probably maybe not ready. I just I would say earlier, how when I was twelve years old or not twelve years old, I was like fourteen fifteen, I was I lip synced one of your songs because I used to do like these like stupid videos because I wanted to

be a country singer. And I I have a DVD of me lip syncing to your songs and my mom's prom dress, and so the fact that I'm even like talking to and just told you that story, like I'm humiliated, but you know, I I love how you because you know, I did country music for like you know, I still do.

But I I love the fact that, like you didn't make any apologies for your sound and at the time, it's like, oh, everyone thought that you were so poppy, and it's like, now I listened to your song, I'm like you were so country, you know, compared to what it is now, but you just didn't care. And I love that about you, and I just I yeah, but I like what you said about the Brad Pitt. Yeah, we want to know, like in that you know, the one sentence in the in your song about who do

you think you are? Brad Pitt? Like how did you choose at Pit out of like all of the famous men you know during that time? And we think it's so crazy because it's still resonates today because he's still so great and so hot, Like how did how did you choose him? I mean I was thinking with a smile on my face, and how I mean the most obvious you know, I mean still now, but even in that moment, it's like, Okay, who is the most obvious guy that everybody is obviously impressed with. It's gonna be

Brad Pitt or it was for me. Um. And so I did that, you know, with a sense of humor and certainly no insult Bradfitt know you know, Um, So it was it was a little bit of an indulgence in sense of humor and just having fun with that. I mean, of course, even a rocket scientist or you already know, it's very very instive. Um. And bradfat was

on my mind. He was going through a lot of like, um, a lot of tabloid pressure and all that sort of thing, and I just thought, there's nothing like a bit of comic relief and just have a little bit of a laugh and some fun with lyrics. I mean it even works to this day. So that's so great because it's like you could have picked someone that wasn't you know, I mean he might have been a star then, but he wouldn't be you know, So like you did great on that Evergreen. Is there a song that you have

a hard time singing? Oh my gosh, of my own or anything of your own that like either you don't like or you are just like it it because it's or it hits you and it reminds you of something. Uh yeah, you're still the one can do that to something. And because it was so true in the moment, I really felt that way. And so sometimes when I'm singing and I'm like, Okay, I don't really mean that same way anymore, and I have to Um, it doesn't mean the same thing either to me now, so I have

to find another reason to believe in the song. So I'm genuine when I'm singing it, right, if you're when your life has changed, Um, you have to find another another reason, another meaning behind the sentiment. And for me, honestly, so many people have gotten married to that song and engaged to that song and are celebrating anniversaries to still the one that it's a renewed emotion for me to know that people have taken it on as their own story, and I kind of feel like I've written it for

for all of them. It's a it's a funny. It's a funny thing that once you share your your music, it belongs to the listener. M and that has made it easier for me with that song. But yeah, so I have to get into I have to go through that um process. When I'm doing it, every once in

a while it does grab me. That's a good tip because this other well, like a week ago, I was I played my first show and I didn't realize how many songs were tied to my ex and we started playing a song and it was, you know, it was my song called love like I Still Believe in You, and I just I looked at my guitar guitar player and I couldn't, like I was, I physically couldn't saying. I just started crying and I was just like, we gotta stop the song because I'm like, I don't and

it was I was so embarrassed. But it's like, you don't know how like how close those songs are, do you when you write them and you sing them and you perform them, and like who they remind you of? Too? So I like how you are able to change that. I mean, it's better to let it out anyway. And then I think that once it, once it goes, I just don't have a lot of back game again, you know, just let that stuff flow. I and I think that those I think those songs just take on your meaning.

I really do. And then once they do, it's, um, there's a whole other light on it. And like I said, I mean, I think it's that it's what it means to the fans. Really, Um, that matters so much to me. Now, um, I've had so many great stories. I just I just heard this populous storage. I gotta share it with you. Okay, perfect example. So from this moment on, oh no, even better now okay, because this has happened, but from the

smullment on as well. But man, I feel like a woman. Okay, so this lady, this is her first baby she puts on, Man, I feel like a woman, lasting it during her delivery and of course screaming along with it during her pains and has a baby girl. I'm thinking, Okay, I mean now I'm never gonna see that on me the same again. So this is kind of what I'm meaning. You know, the songs take on meanings and new purpose as they evolved, and you know it's usually the fans that decide that.

So there you go. Now I feel like a woman. I can just see this little girl coming into the world. Kicking and screaming, strong and healthy. Well you're any man of mine. I mean it was our sorority theme song UM from n to two thousand and we would clear a dance floor and we would go out there and stomp our feet and honestly, like it gave us this sense of like, yeah, you know, like we're not going to just let any guy into our lives, and like I think it just like help these year olds, like

you know, for their future. So you bring me so much joy, Like every time I hear that song, I think of those times, Well, thank you. I love that story and I love all you know. These stories is what really mix the music carry on and makes it fun for me every night too, because I mean, listen, you know you're out there and you're doing the same songs year after year after year, and what keeps them

fresh as the audience. That's what makes it fun, haven't I You know, I gotta give you props too, because I've been I've been told like get on TikTok, get on TikTok. I'm like, I don't understand it. I don't want to do it, Like there's just too much. I've got two kids, like I don't have time. But then I saw that you were on TikTok. I was like, I okay, Like if you can do it, I can do it like you. But your stuff is hilarious, like

you're funny. I'm like, like, I want to jump on the bed Like Chanel, I have a friend that that's all she's been talking about. I'm like, oh my gosh, I've got to get on TikTok. That's all about Shania. I love the platform because it's it's spontaneous and it's it's just a real little moment. And I mean one of my favorite ones is um the Marica like a woman in my pajamas and and and the fact that I didn't think about that that's what's so great about it.

I mean, I mean, don't overthink it. So I mean my pajamas. There's butterfly print on the pajamas. And if I would have thought too much about it, I would have put a brat on. It's like thinking, okay, but then I'm like, no, I don't sleep with a bra on. This is this is me in the moment, and I'm just gonna do this, and so I love it. I love it for that. I love it for the just the I don't know. I think it's it's it's a really genuine and fun platform. It's a great laugh and

we all need a laugh. We need to just let our hair down, let our boots out. Whatever. I mean. I just got a new pair of boobs, so I've been letting them out. Look at look at look at that. I mean like I got them out like they were. We just went to Miami this past weekend and those girls were out there having fun. I feel like, man, I feel like a woman is definitely our theme song for Miami. Boy, I'm like a divorce body. Hey, let's

celebrate it. Oh my gosh. Okay, well, well when you get to the Vegas show, Oh girlfriend, well have some fun. I gotta go back stage two and yeah, okay, this is getting really interesting. Yeah, so we are going to see you. We're coming to opening night in Vegas to see um let's go because let's go girls. It's gonna be so fun. Um. But thank you so much for coming on Wine down And uh, what can I'll say this? What can the fans expect that they've seen you before

in Vegas? Like, what's going to be different about this? This residency. Well, first of all, the fact that I'm starting up again in December. It's going to have a Christmas little um holiday uh addition to its spiritual it And I think I'm just gonna be so hyperactive. I'm probably gonna make a fool of myself because it's it's just one of those moments where I'm not sure. I wasn't sure it was ever gonna happen again. I don't think any of us knew that it would or when

it would. So I'm gonna be just celebrating. I'm gonna be bopping around and having a really good time. And I just look forward to some hubs like when you're there. Imagine if we can't hug. So I'm not getting my hopes too up high, but hopefully we'll be able to, you know, just really be um personal person again. I'm looking forward to love that. Well, Shan, I thank you so much. Um, I can't wait to see you, and I'm really excited for you, and I can't wait to

see the show. So thank you for everything and your insight, and um, I'll see you soon, Okay, I look forward to it. Okay in Vegas, so you in Vegas, So everyone, go to uh ticket master dot com on June one at ten am Pacific time to get your tickets for this Shania Twain Las Vegas residency. It's going to be an amazing show and if you want to see us, there will be there opening Now, she was great. Oh my gosh, she's beautiful. She's so pretty. But she's just like got a very calming oh my god in her

whole setup. Like seriously, she had I know you guys probably can't see the picture. I'll put it on the YouTube later, but it was, Yeah, she had her dog the whole like furry set up. I mean it's she's like, she's like the country Mariah Carey, you know, the queen, the queen. It's like Mariah was the pop queen. She's the country queen. But yeah, I mean I love her. Alright, guys, it's time to send in those emails. Answer your questions. Email us at wind down at iHeart radio dot com

and we will answer whatever you want. We'll talk about it, and I'm clearly not an expert and all things love, but you know I've got some advice for you. So email us at wind down at iHeart radio dot com. So you know what I thought was interesting, what Catherine that Shania said that you should be patient and not jump into the next relationship. What do you think about that? Do you feel about that? I mean, I definitely hear that. Um, And I how do I say this? I I mean,

I've talked to you girls. I'm like, Okay, this person's maybe slid into my DM or you know, I've had a few d M slips, um. And you know, I I spent the first month, like you know, just grinding it out, reading books, crying, and I know I still have a lot of time to like, you know, process all of this stuff, and I don't want to get into anything right away. But I also feel like if there's someone beautiful that comes into my life, that I don't wanna be like, oh well, it's too soon, do

you know what I mean? Like, I just because it's it's one of those things where I'm like, I have not been happy for so long that I I deserve to be happy like I deserve And it's like, yeah, okay,

you know, I just got divorced. But if there's someone amazing that comes into my life, I want like, I don't want to be like, oh well, the book says that it's too soon, you know, like people say my friends say this says and it's like I don't want to like, yes, I know I need time to myself and I know, but I also don't want to miss out on something amazing because you're saying, like listening to you know, people tell you that there has to be

like six months or whatever it is. Because honestly, when people say, you know, take time, well what is that time? Like how long is that time? They don't even have any answer to that. You know, I think that it's not a time frame. I think it's just a feeling. Yeah, and I do get it, Like I I have been that person. It's like I don't like being alone, but I have noticed the last month I love being alone, like I love like my own space. And it's like I'm so happy to hear that. I knowld you, I

told you would love it. I know. It's even it's like, you know, you guys have been amazing, but other people

have been like, hey, like I'll come over tonight. I'm like, I'm actually good, like I kind of just want to like chill, but no, so I've I've genuinely enjoyed my loads, like my alone time, you know, and I have you know, you know, I say no, I'm just it's it's it's one of those things where if I'm not going to say no to an opportunity, if my heart feels that they could be a good fit in my life and someone that is a beautiful addition that could be in a beautiful addition to me in my kids lives, and

I'm not gonna be like, oh, well, you know, I have to wait this certain amount of time. It's like if they fit into my life, and I'll take it slow, like I'm not gonna like get engaged in six months, but like I want to take it slow. But again, I'm not going to shut the door to someone that

potentially might be who I'm supposed to be with. I think exploring, you know, is totally Again, I've been so unhappy for so long, like even you know what I've I've just tried to like make it work, and it's like it's exhausting, and like I deserve to feel loved, Like I deserve to feel everything that I've given to like people in my life well and not I mean, like I said that you to this to you before it's like, and you know you are going to make

somebody so amazingly happy, and like I can't wait to see that too. It's like, you know, we keep talking about like you, but you have this you know, beautiful gift to give to somebody else too, Yes, you do, thanks toam What I mean? I mean, I guess I'll tell my wine down people when I when that moment happens though, like y'all will be the first to know if I'm giving my heart to someone after us after

you know. But you know, I'm just I'm not saying no, right, I'm not saying no to to the to the opportunities controlling it anyway. You don't need to control the situation. I think she was more just saying be patient instead of trying to push it, trying to force Like I'm not on like dating apps or anything. It's the you know, there's the conversations that you know that I've had. It's if it and don't feel right, then I'm not gonna have the conversations. I'm not a dator anyways. Like I

don't like to just like date people. Know what Catherine what nothing? If she dates then it's like a boyfriend yeah. I always like, I wouldn't go on a date if I didn't think that it was gonna be major potential because well exactly, And it's like, what's the point. I'm like, I'm not going to go on a second date if I don't see you being a great stepdad to my kids or a great husband to me. Like I don't need I don't dinner, but I don't need a dinner either.

I don't need to free dinner like no, I'm like, i'd rather have chicken nuggets like I don't need like and like, now this is how I know I'm different because the Jana pre mic was like, yeah, I'll, I'll. You know, I don't want to be alone, so I'm gonna have a dude tonight. I don't want that anymore. I'd rather just be alone. But it's it's like, why go on the second date if I don't see potential? But I'm also not going to say no to the date because I want to see him. Just do what

feels right, Yeah, no pressure, just do whatever. Like the first time that I would make out with someone, Oh my god, you guys, that's gonna be so weird. We know what it's been like seven years. Well, I mean I've done like movie kisses, but it's different. There's no emotion behind us. But I mean I'm kind of like riding a bike. Oh, I'm just like getting like sweaty

thinking about it right now. I just like, I just what is going to be your first question that you asked my next guy, like my next relationship, because I'm obviously not gonna you know, I have fifty I mean the first one. Um, I'm like literally getting sweaty. What you're talking about this? My first one is are you nice? That That's a good one. I like that one. What about yours? Do you like kids? Come on, I'm just kidding. We really did that when you showed up. Do you

have a job? And do you like kids? I think they would know we're going to date. I'm more about like not I'm not going to be that girl that's sitting there and just like you know, hitting them with questions like it's just gonna be like me talking to them in like my normal like way and like just getting that feeling like back from them, like is this

is this natural? Is this organic? Because this like a genuine person, like I'll be able to feel by like them just like talking to me, you know, yeah, no, I agree. Jana is the one with the million. She she will ask enough questions like we won't have to

like we were just going to get the vibey. And here's the thing too, like you know, if there's someone that I'm speaking to, like there's going to be that question like, hey, I have two kids and they're my everything and number one, like you gotta know that, like you won't be the top, like my kids are my everything, and I come with I come with kids, like I come like are you even prepared for that? Because if

you're not, don't waste my time. And it's again because I don't want to, like I'm not wasting time here. I'd rather be alone and not entertain. But I think any man that is interested in you obviously knows that you have two kids, um, and that you know how great of a mother you are and all of those things, so like they wouldn't even be entertaining the idea if

they weren't okay with that. I don't know though, because there because there were some guys in my past where it's like what I actually said it he was like I just wanted to see if like that's the problem. Well, I'm talking like if you're really like you know, relationship, like I mean, they're going to be okay, because then how hard is that they pretend like to see if they can go out with you, and they pretend like they're fine with it, but then you really get into

it and they're not. So it is something that needs to be It's hard because it's like you go ahead and talk about it from the beginning, like hey, are you good with up step kids, But at the same time, it's like you don't want to go through six months it then pretending like they like kids, and then wait, I don't want step kids. So I don't know. That's a hard but here's yeah, that's and but then also I think about what if they say to me, well, do you want more kids? And that's something where I'm

like I never even imagine. So I'm going way ahead of myself, right, Okay, this is like this is this is like dream land here, like you know, to get to that place, but if and when that happens, like those are things I have to think about. I'm like, I don't know, do I like I've had terrible pregnancies. I never you know Mike and I, Yeah, we talked about maybe having a third, but it was going to be most likely surrogate because of my miscarriages and then

my you know, hyporemesis on both ones. So it's like, I just never thought I would ever have to have that conversation with somebody else. And who knows, maybe maybe the next person that I meet has kids too, and you know, doesn't want kids. But these things that I think about. If you fall in love with somebody and they want kids, I think that you will be excited to have another kid with somebody that you already is

the new twenty Hello South Beach. By the way, I'm five years older than her, so when she says she's old, like, I'm just saying, but we knows our things. Just I would just keep everything open. You don't go right now until you're in that relationship, And to answer that question now doesn't even make sense right and right now, I'm just I'm not putting myself out there. But I'm also I'm not gonna you know, I'm not going to be like no, I can't because it hasn't been this amount

of time. I'm just gonna slow step it. Agree, Thank you, so if you want to send in your resume to wind up, we'll have East and mark through because it's not me. Oh Lord, have mercy. I mean, I will say it's kind of fun to like flirt a little bit. Though it's a little fun. You think you're good at it too, No, pammymi um, speaking of Miami, Pam. She

has a book called Gratitude the Great. It's out. It's an amazing kid's book all about gratitude and um, so make sure you guys get it Amazon or wherever you shot for your books, of course. And Catherine is I got nothing. I'm just here. Catherine's killing it. Um, guys, this was fun. See you in Vegas.