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some of the awesome casts that are here. And UM, I'm not sure who's going to pop into be completely honest with you guys, UM, but I know some you know obviously Rob's here, Um Buckley, Leonorris is here, Um, David Bloody, James Lafferty. So yeah, I'm I'm just I kind of keep going in another room being like, does anybody want to be on wind Down? So hopefully we'll be able to get some some good folks in here for you. UM, so stay tuned, but first let's take

a break. So excited Robert Buckley is sitting down with UZZI. Yeah okay, so Rob, we were part of the new the new group, the new clan that came in you me and chantell um. Was it hard for you to come in with the expectation of kind of a new show and with Chad and everyone leaving? Or yes, how

was it for you? Yes, because I hadn't seen a single episode of the show before I auditioned to you, and then I think, like, once it got close to the end of getting the job, I think I educated myself and I watched a couple episodes, but it really wasn't until after I got the job that I properly did my homework and then actually learned about the show like in the following, the fan following, and realized like, oh, this is a very big deal to a lot of people.

And then the simple math of of I thought you had been I forgot that you came in there because three came at the same you guys came. I think you were a week earlier than I than I shot. But yeah, us three were the new cast. Yeah, I just remember my brain went okay, um, two things left and two things entered. So if this goes off the rails in any way this season, I'm at least fift to blame. So yeah, I was terrified of you. Don't also, like you know, ited with like, I didn't want to

be the jar Jar Banks of One Tree Hill. I didn't want to show up and have fans be like especially I'm like phone in Chad's footsteps, right, like he's not Chat but like, but you weren't trying to replace Chad, but in a way, you had the expectation of replacing like the good looking dude and yeah, and just was like, Okay, I hope, I hope they like this guy, and yeah. I mean, what was what was your first impression, like when you started watching the show? Did you have any

big takeaways? I think for me because I mean, honestly, he never seen an episode either, and so I was like, well, I hadn't started. I probably watched a few episodes before. I didn't watch the entire things. There's so many episodes, but I watched a few of the final seasons, um, just a few episodes just to see. But I was worried because you know, I with with Sophia and Joy is just you know, big, big characters, big personalities. I was kind of worried coming in. But I mean I

feel like it, you know, it was good. It was just I think it's hard to come in on the show when you're at the very end and everyone's already formed their connections, so you're kind of just like, wait, okay, wait, who doesn't let you know? It's like, okay, you're trying to figure it out. Um. So it's convenient that we have robbed On first because I, like James said, I've never seen an episode so on the plane here, I was like, all right, I need to see what my

wife's all about on the show. And it was season seven that came on, so I'm seeing both of you guys are like my first impression of One Tree Hill right here? Was the scene was was? Was she licked the side of my face at the bar? That was one of them? She know she uh she? You took a shot, she ate a line and and kissed you and then walked away kissed. I didn't remembers do we make out? No, you didn't make out that he took a shot and you kissed his lips to get the

alcohol from his mouth. I just remember, didn't you like lick my face or remember looking part of your body? I don't remember what? Sorry, I mean, let's dive in racy times. What was the your favorite scene you ever filmed? There was a scene in either season eight or nine where we're in the hospital. Someone's in the hospital, so it's myself, Chantelle Sofa and I think Jackson and there's

a saltine cracker eating contest. It's a real thing. It's like, it's the Saltine Challenger ting six trackers in a minute. And I'm competitive and just in real life anyways, but especially when you bring food into it, that really ups anty for me. The stakes get high, so I was like, I liked Johnte was like, let's I'm gonna go for this. Let's do this, Let's do it on camera. So every take was me. That wasn't acting. That was me for

real trying to get six down and it's hard. It's like number one, you're like, this is going to be so easy, and two you're like, crackers are delicious, and three you're like getting kind of dry, and by four you're like, this is a this is a fool's errand terrify. Well. I love you. I know you have to go, but thanks for stopping and just saying, hey, anything you want to you know, promote, swipe up anything on the for

the listeners. Next time you have me back on I'm gonna say that really profound thing, and I'm gonna tell you all about my new pyramid scheme I'm working on. Perfect. Really, I feel like it would be perfect for you guys and all of your listeners. Well, if you have another second when you come back, let me let us now. It's to a trilogy today. Okay, Oh that'd be fine, one, two, and three, Okay, okay, go sign. Hey guys are reporting? Oh yeah, I'm always on, it doesn't matter. Always prepared.

A child actor, I came out of the womb right now. No, I mean, well, let's start with that. When did how old were you when you started acting? I did my first show, The Torchal Sins when I was nine. Yeah, it was nine years old. Any Um, how did your parents know first of all that or did you say I wanted to get Yeah, so I used to watch The Cosby Show, um, back before we found out all

the things that were happening. Um. But when I was little, that was like, you know, all the kids are on that show, and I was like, I want to do that. My parents were like you do, and they're like, but you live in North Carolina. That could be a problem. So I just did like children's theater was like the only thing, you know, they could get me involved in.

But I loved it. And um, then when I got a little older, I had a crush on this girl who was doing a play and she told me about an agent that lived nearby, and so I was like wheeling and dealing like connections, Yeah, whatever, let's do it. Mom dropped me off exactly. UM. So I kind of dragged them into it. It wasn't the other way around, which I'm super happy about because you see, you know all those kid actors whose parents like kind of steered them. So do you have any regrets um doing that as

a young age or um. I mean, you know, it's like anything else, there's things that were awesome about it. I mean you've been working your whole life. Yeah yeah, and like you know, to look back on the people that I like, I I met. Um we were airing the same time as the Golden Girls were, so Patty White was like my grandma for like a day, you know what I mean. It was like really cool things that you know as a kid, You're just like this isn't incredible, But then you know you miss out on

some things too. Um and obviously just getting used to you know, being people knowing you as a kid is something to process. Um, But you know, I just looked out because I had great parents that sort of we're like, don't let this go to your head or whatever, and they put every time I wasn't working, I went back to public school, and so any kind of ego or whatever it was immediately, Yeah, because then I'm back in public school, and I'm sure than everybody else it's like exactly,

so you know it worked out. How was that transition when whether it's public school. You and I were talking about, like you went to Wake four college, Like, how was that handling that when you're back into that just everyday life knowing what you've done or people recognizing you for

what you've done. Yeah, No, I mean I think it was just when I went back, I knew that I couldn't get away with anything because my friends who knew me before I ever did any TV, were just like if I changed at all, they would have just been like who are you? You know, so it just kind of, um, it wasn't too bad. And you know that's a great thing too about school is it's kind of an equalizer, you know, you still got to study for that test, you gotta do whatever. And so it's just like a

you know, a normal kid. So I'm really lucky that I kind of got to like work as a kid but also have school and kind of you know, I wasn't just like plopped in a star trailer for most of my childhood. And now you're a parent and now I mean, so now, I mean does is work? Um? Because for me, like when I had kids, I was like, oh wow, my purpose is completely changed. Yes, for sure. And I wake up and I'm like, okay, like I'm doing this form. I have to support the family. And

what has it been for you? Having um? Having a new baby? Now, it's just I mean, you know, it changes you in a way that you're not You always hear people say that, right that our parents, but you know, until it happens to you, like you just don't know. But I think for me, it's just given me so much more purpose I think is the best word, you know. And it's like if I don't as you know, in this industry, it's like sometimes I feel like I'm chasing purpose. It's like if I'm not working, like what am I

what's my next gig, what's my next job? Exactly? Yeah. But then when you are a parent, you're that you know, that thing becomes your being and what everything is about, So it doesn't it's not about you anymore, you know. In a way that's kind of freeing for me and great because I love him so much and I'm excited to just take care of him and um, you know, obviously you want to provide for them and make sure they're you know, taken care of. Um, so that comes

into play. But it's just been kind of kind of a peaceful thing in a lot of ways. That does have to be fulfilling, um, you know, coming from like y'all's industry and always getting the door shut in your face until you finally find that one that opens. Right to now have a child where you are the most important person in their life every single day, like you're

good enough every day right to have that feeling. And so how is it for you, guys, Janna Anley, to be back like with this cast right where all these people who like watched you and they probably still look at you as these young characters in high school and going through what they've gone through. Do you, guys still look at each other a little bit in that way to be like, man, Lee actually has a kid, Man Janna has two kids. Man, you know Chad has kids.

I love that we all have kids now. It's so fun, Like how is that is? It is part of you kind of still look at each other through that lens. Well, I mean I wasn't in so like he grew up. He's obviously on the show from like day one, so, um, you know I wasn't in the high school days. I came, Hi, I'm your wife, and I came to me that you no, no,

I understand. Um. I think it's just cool again to be here, like knowing that you have a kid and and Brett's and they're like, I've known Brett even though we were on the same season, but like he's got a kid now, and I think it's you know, again, I don't know Hillary, but I think it's everyone's just

kind of grown up and you know, it's crazy. Um, And I think I could speak on this too, But like Sean Tell and I weren't really close when we were filming, but now we're we're so close because it's just one of those things where you grow up and you learn and you learn more about yourself and you're

like the twenty year old version of me. I don't know if I would have been friends with you, know, so I think, you know, when you kind of grew up and you start to really respect people's evolution, and I think you've become I don't know, like it's just it's even more of a um kism a thing that the word is anyways, it's more of just the I don't know, it just it feels. It feels good for sure, from me at least, I love it. I think it's great.

I think and we're we're always going to have this like shared experience right of that time um and so I think it's whenever, like this is the first time I've seen you since we've finished or whatever, and so it's like and I like, we had so much fun together and now I feel like we're picking up where we left off. But also we're like these matured people who have kids, and we have things that we can bond overright now that we didn't then, and that's great

and like we'll always have that. And like I'm you know, even though things have come out about our show that obviously weren't great at the time to shore, and so there's all this kind of backstory. But we went through that period together, we survived it, and I think we'll sort of, you know, always be tied to that. For sure. Absolutely, I kind of hate that it kind of went down on that note though. I didn't like, you know, it's just that's kind of bumped me up. But I don't

want to get too into that. But have you talked to Millie? You know, we text occasionally. She's got two kids and a couple of kids, and she's awesome. But I haven't seen her in a while, and I'd love to because she's she's she's such a good person and an actress and uh, she's a great mom. I know. So did you think the show was going to be

what it was? No? Definitely not no, because you know, and that was, you know, coming I was in the pilot from the very beginning, and we as I'm sure you've probably heard, I thought we were going to get canceled a lot of times, and we just kept sort of hanging on by the wire, and um, you know, credit to our creative team. They kept They really took advantage of social media, which was coming on at the time.

You know, Facebook and all of that work sort of taking off, and um, they really utilized it and smart things like the musical tie ins and all of that, so they kind of found ways to market it and keep us coming back. But no, I mean, by I was telling Michael this yesterday, ended up taking ten years of ten years of my life. And when I first got on the show, I thought I was in college, and I thought I was going to go to law school and become a lawyer. And we're definitely not a lawyer. No,

I'm definitely not. And I'm so glad that I didn't end up doing that. Um, but you know, I had no I was like, well, I book this show, and I was like, we'll see what happens, because you know, you never know if a show is gonna go or it's going to be caned, and so I was like, well, who knows what will happen. And then ten years later, I'm thirty and I started it when it was twenty. I spent my entire time, you know, that entire time on the show. But I met my wife, and you know,

lots of wonderful things happened. But do you find a credit ride? And all those seasons and episodes. Do you have anything that sticks out for you in your history of something favorite, like a day that you just really enjoyed or something filming that you just truly enjoyed. It's a good question. Um, I don't know. I mean there's especially because there's been people that were in and out,

you know. But I think my favorite times when I think about people always like is there one scene or whatever, And there's not like a particular thing. I think it's just any of those times that you got all of us together shooting like late night. Yeah, Park City was amazing that we were like we I think I feel like we all genuinely had a really good time out

and they felt like camp. And so just anytime you got us all together and it was late at night and we were loopy and just being silly, you know, you're kind of like growing up with those people, and those are kind of the moments that I sort of gravitate back towards. You know. And then you're going to be in a Tom Hanks movie. When is that kind of I think it's coming out in May. It's called Greyhound, World War two movie. I have a small part. But yeah,

Tom Hanks, don't do it? Why did you do that? Well, it's it's it's you're in a Tom I don't want people to go and be like it's Leonora's and Tom Hanks the Home. No it's not. But you're in a Tom Hanks movie. It's awesome. And like you said, he was amazing, he is. Yeah, he's just as like you know, I think I was telling you you're sometimes you're scared to meet your heroes, right because like what if they let you down? But he was he did not at all.

It's like super professional and obviously talented. Um, so yeah, it was. It was kind of one of those I'm like standing there, you know, with him like five feet away in a scene, and there's moments where I'm just like basically pinching myself like this is happening. This is crazy that. Yeah, Well, I love you, and you've always been so sweet and kind and so thank you for coming on wind Down and just for being awesome. And

you know we're always here to support you. And you know, if you ever have relationship problems, you should listen to wind Down because we're just we'll get your right on track. As we found out, we have the connect the GMU connection with my wife and Michael. So we've got a good reason to come visit us in Nashville and I can't wait. Yes, by guys, Okay, so excited because Antoine Tanner Skills just sat down to wind down. What are you? How you been? I've been married? You know what I'm saying?

Like the Dumbo? How long you been married for? We've been to good since so what's that? Twenty some years we've been married for? Oh? My goodness? And how many kids? Again? Four? Four kids? Two boys, two girls. What is the hardest thing about marriage for you? Um? Really? Me and my wife are best friends though, so it's a little different.

Like I think it's just like bills and the kids, just trying to keep you know, once the kids get older, it's just trying to appease everybody when they start going to their own directions on what they want to do. It's just you know what I'm saying, You go through the phases. How do your kids with having older kids and them seeing what you've done and your profession everything, How is that now? Because I feel we are only experienced little kids, so they don't really understand the concept yet.

So how's it with your older kids understanding what you've been able to achieve and seeing you on you know, the big screen and stuff. Well, you know what, all of my kids, none of them are in like the entertainment. It's like they never really like you know, they watch it like they never forget. I had a movie come out. My son went to the premier and he was sitting on my lap and he was like, man, how long is this movie gonna be? Like when is it over?

Like any every day they don't care. It's just like, you know, you're just dad, Like they don't care, Like I got a game at six, you're gonna be there? What time do you? You know? Come? Can you drop my friend off? Like you know, sentence like that. It's like it's totally different when they're not like entertainment kids, you know what I'm saying. They just kind of everybody's

like doing their own thing. You kind of missed those days when they're like like you guys kids are like, like I said, it's the fun time because they're like under your neck and you get to do a little stuff with them. And then you know, when they get like thirteen fourteen, they don't want nothing to do with you. They'll be like, O, can I spend it that in my friend's house? Yeah, I'm probably not coming home for

like too much. Like you know, like they don't want to be bothered with you, and then you feel but hurt, so you'd be like, oh, well you don't come see me. And then when they get older than they want to come back. So it's like it's a transition period. Oh it's so fun. I can't wait. Um. So obviously you were you know, you were the O G. So you were there from day one with Tree Hill? Um is that something where it's just like how how awesome of

feeling has that been? Just knowing that like you've you've been on some many you weren't on all the seasons, and you were there from day one and that you know, the Tree Hell fans are this amazing and if you have been there this entire time, it's crazy because Um, I think with like Hulu, Netflix and all the different channels, we get new fans like every year because they go on and they binge watching, and it's it's kids that I've met recently that's like, oh my god, I love

you and they're like sixteen. And then I do the math and it was like you weren't even born when the show was on the on the air. I'm saying, like it was off the air when you was like three, so what do you know about it? And And they like, oh my god, you have kids. Is like I had kids before they had kids. Like it's like really weird, but it's cool. I mean because if you look at it, a lot of people they always say, you know, certain shows you get the you know, they all look at

the residual payments from it. Know, like if you do any shows, the residuals always go down. With this show, it hasn't gone down because of the conventions and stuff like that. So this is actually the residual because they is like the fans like they outpour for this stuff and it's so crazy. I know. It's like every time at a show, it's like one try Hillers. It's like like they're the loudest in the room. Yeah, they support it.

So it's it trips me out because I've been on other shows that's been off the air and you know you can see somebody but oh yeah it was on the show. Cool, but they don't want to take a picture with your hill fans be like I need my picture you signed. This is like so inspiration. And then here's the DVD cover I've been carrying around, Like but the only differences with this show has so many different lessons like life lessons. What have you taken away from

those life lessons? I mean just like like the school shootings, like we did stuff that happened before it happened, like you know what I'm saying, or when it was like it wasn't just like a occurring the event type thing. It just was those were just the stories. That's just what kids were going through. And a lot of those kids, like I see them right on there. Oh my god, like you changed my life the way you overcame this and the way you overcame that, and you're just like, damn,

that was a character. But for some people, they really they really grasped that and they grew from that, and it just you know, so at a certain point it kind of felt like you're like, damn, that's that's dope. And for me, I never even really watched the show that much. I've probably seen seven or eight episodes. I just never really watched myself. There's a lot of stuff that's out I've never really watched I go to work

and I go to the next project. But you know, but for them, they take they take it, and I get it because I watched, you know, like I like The Walking Dead and I like certain shows that I watched, and I was like, oh man, that that was good. That's so I can understand that the passion for it. It's just you know, when you watch you don't take the same thing away from me, you know what I'm saying.

Do you guys? Do you guys ever like being on a show like this and you know you're there from day one, Jane, You're had the last three seasons, but being on such an impactful show? Is there any negative to that? Is there anything that you're like going into the rest of your career after being on something like this that you feel like you're only looked at as skills, you only looked at as alex you prey where it's like sometimes you want to be considered for other things

that you've done or that you want to do. Yeah, that's true because like it's like some shows that I be wanting to go up for, you know what I'm saying, But then they'd be like, um, he's not that type, and a lot of times they just won't give you the chance to even go in, and then you go in and be like, I'll be like, oh, well, we didn't know he had that much range. And that's just because that was your particular character on the show, and that's just how they wrote your character to stay in

this lane because you weren't. Like my character on the show was all comedy. You know. I really never had that many serious moments. I never really had no conflict love life, like crazy love life. It was all comical stuff, you know, because everybody else had so much drama. You know, somebody had to make somebody laugh everybody. You know, everybody else you're gonna cry saying you get killed or you crying,

and then here comes skills. Everybody left. So sometimes when I go out for like certain serious roles and they're like, well, I don't know, and they don't they don't see me. But I've always been able to do both with no problem unless they can like go back to look at your body of work, which a lot of the newcast and directors and stuff like that, they don't go back and look at at what you do. A lot of this stuff now is not talent based, I don't think.

I think it's more popularity based, you know what I'm saying, Like like I've been to certain auditions where they're like, you know, let's see how many And I was late to social media, so like I'm behind everybody because it took me a while to get on social media. But I've seen him like, well, how many followers he got. I've seen people book rolls just based on followers, and there's other guys just so much more talented than they are, but they're like, well, you know, he has an audience

and people is gonna watch. He could promoters like free promotion because social media is free. So it's not like back in the day where you know, because I've been acting twenty four years crazy because we were on the show, we didn't there wasn't we didn't have Instagram when we were on the show, which so crazy to think about, Like we did not have Instagram. You had to go in the room, you had the audition, and you had to beat the next person out. That's just what it was.

It was mono imano and if you didn't beat them out, you didn't work. That was and even just being on the show too I mean all the all the pictures that we didn't get because we didn't have social media, so we couldn't post it. You know, we weren't taking it. We weren't busy taking photos and posting them. Were living this.

This is what's crazy. This is how you know that social media is like king right now because um, myself, Hillary Buckley, Dania, we were all doing a Christmas movie, um the Christmas Contract, and we weren't supposed to say anything. So Hillary came up with this idea, like everybody just turned away, take a picture and just say working on something with some new people. And then so but all of us took the picture where we all like just turned away, each one of us, and we all posted

it and let the fans figure it out. So they figured it out. Then Lifetime I was like, you guys got to take that down daniel Lewis's project. Ye, Dine's supposed to know that we said, but we didn't say anything. All we did was just took a picture and it was working on something new with some friends. But they didn't know which friends because every like if I took the picture, I was smiling, but everybody else in the back was turned away and everybody took the exact same picture,

but it like blew up like overnight. So when they was I was like, yeah, y'all got to delete it. So we all deleted it. The next day, like everybody else started calling like we want to come in, we want to interview. So I was supposed to go back home, and they made us stay because all this like you know, all this different media was coming in to interview us,

and you're you're welcome Lifetime. Yeah. All of a sudden, they was like, Okay, you guys can talk about it, but that's just how like shows you how social media go. Was like, it's way different now. Like I said, just back in the day, you had to literally prepare for your audition and let me read, let me rent lines with this person, let me get let me get in character, let me focus, and let me go in there now. And they're just like what's this? Twitter look like, uh,

what's this? So? I know Tori doesn't want to ask it, but I'll ask it for her. Since here Lucas's boy. Do you think he ended up with the right girl the end on the show who he ended up with? Peyton? Oh? Yeah, I don't watch it I'm serious. I like, like like eight episodes. But I mean, you know, you read the script, so in your I never read the script. I read my episode. I read my part, and I would film my part and that would be it. I would be like, okay, cool, we off man. I had I had stuff to do

because you gotta remember, I had kids. I had kids in California. You know, I was living here, trying to make sure my marriage is doing it and trying to make sure I'm dad. You know, you can't miss certain things. So I would just come in. I would like, literally read this, do this. Then I got to go home and help with homework. Then I got to you know, like I would literally film for two days and jump on a plane. It was one time I never forget.

I jumped on the plane at six am to get back to l A at ten to go to my son's um violin He played the violin to go to his recital at four, and then I was on the red eye to get back here to go to work at eight o'clock. But I had to do it. You know what I'm saying, like, what are you doing right now? Well, I've been working a lot. I did um n c I s Lucifer. I've been booking a lot of little shows here there, and that's awesome. Well, everyone go follow

Antoine on Instagram. Get him up Antoine how I couldn't use my name because my son is a junior, and so he used when I went. When I finally got on Instagram, I was like, why can't I use my name? And I think it was funny. I think you follow a fake page of mind or something and he was like, this is not um, you have a fake page. And I was like, I don't even have a page. So I got on here later, so like, welcome on there, we got you. Thanks for coming on bed, thanks thanks

for having me. Y'all be good. Alright, So just to get a little um one tree Hill fan catch up here, Kylie. How is it, how's the room? How's the energy up there? What's been going on? Well? The energy today was kind of crazy. I think it's like the massive amount of Tree hillers today, and I was a little overwhelmed, not gonna lie, I was just a little bit overwhelmed by

how many people were in there. But I think that's like super awesome for you guys, because these things keep happening if there's a lot of people, who is the coolest person that you saw today? So this morning, Jana said we're all out at nine fifteen, and for some reason I didn't hear that, and so it was nine tin and my hair was wet and I had no makeup on, and I was like, all right, cool, it's fine,

we'll have time in the car. And then we walk into the lobby and they're hands Chad, Michael Murray, James Lafferty, Hillary, and I was like, James, wow, and I just like look back at Jana and I was like, I can not right now. And then we got in the content. She's like, how excited are you? And I was like, I'm kind of a little bit disappointed because I looked like the way I'm a beautiful blah blah blah. Yeah yeah,

but like honestly, like there's a standard. So I mean, but then I got to play with their kids and stuff like that, and then now you're Danny to the stars. Yeah, now you're inside playing with Chad's kids. Kylie, oh my god, my baby. I just like extra money. I'm just I'm a hustler like you, Janna, Like I I appreciate it. I like it, Jannis, my priority, any anyone that you talked to that you just um have a new found love for. Yeah, you know, I'm just kidding. Alex Um No.

Hillary Peyton is just as genuinely nice in person as she is on the show. And like she doesn't have her kids here this weekend, but she was like sitting down down with the kids playing and just like sharing the French fries, letting them stomp all over them. And so the payton that I loved and dreamed of as a um as a teenager is the exact payton that she does in real life. So that's awesome. Well, thanks

for the insight, Kylie. You're welcome by Hi. I am so excited right now because I see Stephen Coletty and I'm really hoping he's gonna come over here because Alex inside of me is just I'm yearning for some Challex, Chase and Alex action. Did you guys have was that girl's name? I don't remember what they called us. I believe it was Where was this character's name? It Chase and I was Alex, so I believe it was Alex,

but I'm not really sure it's there. He is, Oh my god, Stephen COLETTI, will you come on, Mike, there's your there's your headphones right there. Everyone, welcome to wind Out. It's been long awaited, Stephen. I am so excited. It is good to be here. So I think podcast started. Everyone's been waiting for Stephen to get on. Yeah. I know. How many times did you guys make out or kiss

in the show? Um? All right, just in the show? Yeah, just just just on record, Um, that was probably a solid like seventy three probably yeahs counting, you know, but I didn't you remember the exact number any too much to remember. I get in and then if we're in totality, yeah, sure, Oh my god, this is so awkward right now. So do you want to tell Stephen what? Because he had never watched, he had no idea about who who, Alex was like, do you want to tell you know what?

You kind of said last night? Oh yeah. I watched the first couple of episodes Jana was in and I was like, Okay, coming in into this environment, I should know a little bit of your research, right, And I look over at her on the plane as I'm watching, I'm like, you're the worst. I'm like, Alex, do you praise sucks. I'm like, how do people like you? Okay? So this is the perfect setup for for the question. I get the most about Chase and really and Alex and and it's like, all right, is it Mia? Who?

Kate Vogel another character on the show. She played Mia, and and Chase dated her and dated Alex and they ask who would you pick? And who do you think Chase should end up with? And I always say me, I know you do and it really makes me mad. I was that like, she Alex is a bit of a nightmare. I was like, if you don't do not date actresses, steer clear there, She'll only be one head shot in a relationship. All right. But we had so

much fun filming. I take it. I take it very personal when you when you keep saying Mia okay, because I'm like, what about Alex really had a turnaround? Man, because he was just like Michael was like, are do you get likable? And I was like, well, yeah, I get a boyfriend, but could he trust that though I loved you, look, you are not the first to say that. And then also just steamroll my heart, all right? And every time I get up, I dressed myself off and I say, okay, let's do this again, and I get

my heartbroken, but you didn't. Like all I wanted was someone to be Are we talking about real life or characters right now? I just got lost. I'm talking about our characters. Like Alex wanted to like she wanted that commitment and you didn't really give it to her. I know that you were that broken. Trust is broken. Trust. You know I didn't do anything wrong, that's debatable. What did I do? Oh my gosh. See they just conveniently forget, don't they? Alex? Didn't she believable? Did I? We'll see,

We'll see what to bring it up? Alex. All I'm saying is is I really wanted to be with Chase, And you know, it breaks my heart a little bit that he chose the safe option, and he chooses the safe option? Is that why you kill yourself? I didn't kill myself spoiler alert. People who are listening have seen that. I didn't know. I think that, Ulian, because in all seriousness, you were too big for Chase. You belonged with like you're going to go off. It just really triggers my

heart a little bit. You would you were going off to marry Tim McGraw or something like that, You're gonna go find your country star chases, but I wanted to. I want to Chase. I was chasing Chase. But I knew just like it's not true you got him, you just didn't care. That's not true at all. I had. I went off to do my music and he's like, I'm gonna go be you know, go fly planes. And then it was just to be a superstar. And but

I was waiting for you. I waited for you, and she's still out there somewhere, just waiting in the wings. Poor Alex. Everyone feel bad for Alex. We to fund the right. We did. We did. I I always said, I think my my most fun was shooting with you. We had a good time. Yeah, Yeah, it was always a blast on set, and those days seemed like the easiest. Yeah.

We were always laughing and having a good time. And yeah, we we would just come just skipping on a set and then you know, i'd probably go chase butterflies and you would have to snap and get me focused, and even like, hey Steven, Steven, let's go, well that's it's seriously, was having upstairs too, because we were taking photos together. He kept like like Stephen, I'm like, oh, this is like flashbacks to when we were filming. I know I'm not the first one we're working here, Tory, I know

you're losing your mind right now. Do you want to ask? Yeah? Well, um, Laguna Beach was my first reality TV show that I used have to sneak from my parents. Was a lot of people's first Yeah. I think it was like technically the first first reality there. There was many, There were many, many more because I was like I remember going into MTV. There was our generation. I think, yeah, the Osborne Show, there was the Nick and Jessica Show. Because I read

a big world. Yeah, but I would sneak it because all my older siblings would watch it and I'd be like watching dishes, like trying to watch my mom and be like, nop, you know a lot to watch it, and you guys are a little scandalous for me at that age. But I think it's the best thing ever. You and LCS still healing over it. Yeah, it was, Man, that was half my lifetime ago. Now I'm thirty four years old and I was seventeen when I started doing

thirty four. Yea, I'm wow, what's wrong? With four. Well, no, because I just remember you being so much younger than me. But at the time I think you were what was that ten years ago, So at the time that was a lot. We were twenty four and at the time I was like, I'm twenty six years old. I felt older than I felt like three years afore. I'm probably

be thirty three. There's such a different different generations. I'm like, okay, yeah, I'm just saying I think there's I think you know, there's something to be said about twenty four year old guy versus the twenties six seven year old girl with immature Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, because I think that's double at that point in those years younger. I feel like where a girl is around, a guy gets to around like ways behind her. But if you start calling him

a millennial or something, then I'm technically a millennial. So are you sure you're pretty old? Yes? I like home. Mike think with our powers can bind, we can handle alec. So I know that you said, especially with makeout scenes and stuff. You've always asked me, is it you know,

is it weird for the girl? And I always say, because I've never actually asked another guy, Um like For for me, I'm like, it's it's not you don't really feel anything because there's a camera, people everywhere, and there's a you know, the director, and it's just so many people watching that it's not like an intimate thing. That's what I've always like, I told him, Yeah, it's not really there's there's no there's no feelings. I mean, it's

it's not romantic. No. Yeah, so you feel the same way because I don't even remember like one of the bed scenes that we did, we were like on top of each other and then it's like cut and then we roll off and because what do you need lunch, were like picking like crap out of our teeth and like, so just I'm just trying to comfort you. And I've been fine. All I've had to experience is homework in

Lifetime kisses. So it's again it's until you get that showtime series or something, and I'm like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm stay home for this one. I'll ask grap of fire looking to beach questions. Did you really live in the good of each yes? Um? How did you get sought out? Um? They My name came up in some stories I think between the girls, which they got they were talking to Christien and her group of friends and Lauren her group of friends. Who are you friends with first,

Kristen or Lauren? Kristen didn't come to they going to beach until we are freshman in high school. And I've known Lawrence since I was six years old. Oh wow, so you guys really worry childhood friends? Okay, are you guys still friends? Yeah? That's cool. That was very not what Yeah, that was that was genuine And we just found a video to Kristen together. Yeah, as we're both

still friends with Kristen. Yeah, I wish, I'm sorry, I wish I had more drama for you, but we actually and I just like to know it we matured a little bit from from seventeen years old and what was occurring on on that show back then. So you actually work at it, wasn't it a surf shop? I did.

They're They're gonna beach, surf and sport. This makes me st what I really did just have to watch the whole season because we had a podcast based off The Hills reboot, and so I had to rewatch everything entering into that. So that's why everything is actually pretty fresh in my brain, which I'm actually really appreciative of that. I remember you worked at a surf shop. Um, did you ever reconsider going on the reboot? Uh? Or considered the thought? Um, well, MTVS has asked me, but yeah,

I still don't know. I think that first season of Laguna Beach was was of reality television for a couple of lifetimes. And I did the second season a little bit something go on the Hills for a bit, I

did one episode. I did one episode of the Hills. Um. They you know, they've asked me a bunch over the years, and I was obviously getting a scripted stuff, and so there was an opportunity where once they realized I was I was obviously more concerned about doing scripted, they paired a development deal like which is something you call in the industry where you can get six months to a year where a company, say you know or network will

lock you in exclusively to just do scripted stuff with them. So, um, they did that, and I was bringing them all these different projects, and of course they were just like, oh, no, we're good, We're good. It was right when MTV was getting its scripted But what I later figured out is I'm pretty sure they didn't care about the development deal with me. They were just willing to do say oh hey, we're gonna give you this as well, and come do the hills, and so we did one episode. Um, but

you know it's fine. If there's one movie, you could do one character one movie, what would it be? Oh my gosh, we just played this game last time, and I mine was like a pride and prejudice kind of here. And yeah, well I wanted to be a superhero. It is a loaded question, but I was just, um, I was just watching a uh some sort of preview on Maverick and Miles Teller was talking about, you know, working a top gun and just working with Tom Cruise and now there the whole lead up to shooting the movie

and shooting the movie. And I think, like, as a thirty four year old guy, or any any guy that's between the age of like thirty and and sixty, I think being a top gun or seeing that movie was somewhere that's like close to their hearts. So I just right now, I mean, that would be something that would be awesome. I could see that. I lost. Yeah, and

then Chase, obviously I played. My character was in the Air Force it's something that you know, Mark Schwant kind of caught wind that I said, always said, like planned c was to be in the military, and my grandpa was in the military, and so I think he once he caught wind of that, it was implemented in this show. That's so cool. Yeah, is that any regrets not going into that or maybe we're good? Yeah? Alright, so plan and be you're fine. Oh yeah, here's James so excited

because James Lafferty is also on the wine. Do you know how long I've wanted both of you guys on We're happy to be for Yeah, for sure, and you came on you you helped us with our campaign when we're doing the campaign for you. Yeah. For everyone's doing great. Can you We just like whose idea was that? Who

started it off? Started with James? Yeah, I had the initial idea, but um really quickly I brought it to Stephen I think probably the day after it's just sort of entered my head because, um, I just wanted to make sure that we could both sort of bring ourselves to the thing because it's it's rooted in it's rooted in our reality kind of um. And so we both developed those UM the characters and then the story from from that point on. So yeah, and then you guys

did a full episode. Where where did the actual episodes air? Was it on? Because you we did the I remember we went to your house and we got the money for you know, to help raise money for filming season. Yeah, where did you guys put that out? So that was for just doing the campaign in the beginning, and that was about That was a year almost, It was a

year and a half ago now. And so then once we got all the money to shoot the show, we started shooting at the end of two thousand eighteen, and then we were cutting it and we worked a small team. James and I are the editors on the thing, and so we we've been editing all of two thousand nineteen. Uh, and then you know, trying to get out there and find like a home for it, and then also just working on um some of our final stages of post production,

just getting all the music in there. We're actually working with Michael Grubs who's doing the score for us, him and his partner from something Cheap since something he's working on now. The fans working the fans watch it right now and it's not out yet so we have. That's what we're doing is putting the finishing touches on the

first season, which is going to be eight episodes. UM. So that's why it's taken so long because when you normally would have you know, a team of editors rotating in like you know, of sharing the episodes, it's just

us to working on the whole thing. Um. So basically we're aiming to have the show released um April or May, and we don't have, um, we don't have, Like we think we've narrowed down some options where I think we're going to release it so to be rented or to be bought um at first and then hopefully a subscription service later. But um, we're still sort of deciding which platform it's going to be on and what's the concept.

Just like the quick elevator pitch of the show, like our listeners have an idea of what to look out for you're on Uh basically, I mean you're gonna meet two guys that are in their thirties. It's like five six years after they were huge, like teen heart Throbs.

They're on a vampire show. It's kind of like Vampire Diaries or a teen Wolf or something like that, and they're the biggest stars and you're seeing them years later having to kind of well just where they're at in their real lives and and and after you know, having a lot of things come easy to them young. When they're younger, they're kind of realizing it that that you know, it's not as life's not as easy as they might have thought. And you're seeing them go through their struggles.

They're at a crossroads, and so they're kind of leaning on each other when they shouldn't be because they both have a lot of to work out. And so you're seeing them in their trials and tribulations and kind of how they're reacting to their reality. And you're kind of playing with this perception versus reality as far as people that are seen as like, you know, big stars are very successful, but when they're at home and they're by themselves, what that looks like, what's more down earth kind of

grounded in real life? What these people are going through. And most importantly, you're laughing at them because it's a comedy. And have you guys been able to pull from your experience I'm assuming a little bit being you know that have been young heart throbs in your careers to be like, Okay, this is something happened to me that how can we kind of make a spoof of this or make it

funny and entertaining. Yeah, that's what brought us to the idea was we um, you know, after one Tree Hill, I think you think, um that you you you think that it's going to be an easy ride. You know you're gonna get your next acting gig right away. It's all going to be um sort of downhill from there. And for for I mean for us, it was sort of the opposite, you know, we had we've sort of faced like a lot of adversity in terms of getting that next job. Why do you think that is? Because

I I don't. I don't get that it's you know, I think it's probably a combination of things. I think there there is a little bit of you know, people don't necessarily like when somebody starts their own show, they really want it to be their own concepts, right. They want to build their own world, and they want to

build it fresh. And I think when you've played a character on a show for so long, you may be too deeply rooted in that, you know, in that image for them to be able to see you in their thing. Also a lot of it might just I mean, for me personally, it was how prepared I was for to take that next step, and I wasn't very prepared I was going in there and the auditioning working is another beast than acting on set, and you have to go

through that. You have to master that to to get the opportunity to jump on set and make film and television. And so that's you know, a cult are shocking away coming back after for eight months in a row. You're shooting a show and then you're dropped into l a and you can walk into that first room and be like, I'm good, you know, I'm coming off the show. And

then just the littlest thing, can can you know? You can who you're reading with, Like you might be reading with your your wife, and it's like some dude that's just you know, reading off a page in front of you, and it just kind of trips you up. You're not used to it, and all of a sudden you fall in your face and then you walk out of there and that confidence meter just like drops and it keeps dropping because they're like, oh god, so can I ask a question for you guys though too on that just

real sidebar with the auditioning. Um, I have a I feel like a lot of things have obviously moved to on tape. I don't. I've never one like on tape. I'm terrible on tape. I feel like being in the room is like the only way that I've been able to actually work. And because I'm I'm nice and I'm friendly and I'm chatty, so it's like, I feel like that's where people see my personality and on tape it doesn't. So I mean, do you guys go on tape a lot and like, what's the biggest tip for winning on

a tape? Because I think that's where I struggle like the worst. I feel like, I mean, for me, going on tape, it affords you the opportunity to to work many times through something with somebody, hopefully he's a patient reader. Um as as I put James through and we've got Rob Buck and Mike's always I always feel bad. I'm like, I'm sorry, Mike, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, And then I find myself given Jana tips I've never actually da in my life. I'm like, honey, what do you need to

do right here to make you become a director. So I think that that that's good, even though, yeah, you can work yourself into a frenzy and probably those first

couple of takes are gonna be the best ones. But you're right, there is something to be said about walking into the room, carrying that character kind of in the room, having an engagement with the people, and then also having them give you direction right away, and then on that second take you can turn and take it and if they see you take that direction, then that's going to be good for the process, like, oh, we can work it with this person. So there's pros and cons, you know, Rob,

But you got anything, Rob. Welcome Rob Buckley Part two. By the way. First of all, by the way, East, can your headphone? You can put a shirt on? I'm over here quiet. I feel like the fourth Jonas brother. Isn't that the last guy in the world you're supposed to borrow the headphones from? Probably that was that was the most diva acter thing ever. Can I can I borrow the cameraman's glasses because it's about me. I've never booked a job office self tape. I'm with you. I

just feel like I do better in the room. And I haven't done enough tape yet. I think it's great. It's there's a luxury in knowing I don't have to be on If it takes me thirty takes, that's fine, um, which you can also bleed into like a seven hour taping, you know, but there's something to be said for I like the finality of a deadline, you know, so I

just go in the room. And also it's kind of the same thing, like personality does help you get the job sometimes, so if you go in and you're warm, or you just kind of riff with them and you hit it off. Yeah, you know, I know. I just felt like everything when I was living in l A. It was just like just put on tape and it's just I don't know, it becomes frustrating. Then when you do get the opportunity to get in the room I got, I just get so nervous. I'm just terrible auditioning this

past season. I hadn't audition to a one like my first one out when I went out for I way over, Like I didn't just prepare myself for like be calm, be cool. Instead I came in and was like super anxious, and excited and like my people pleasing came out, So there was like half a second of silence. It's like me and eight people and they just all were looking at me, and I was like, so, what's up? Great script? Do you guys like avocado toast? Like the four things

came out and I caught myself. I was like, what are you doing? You shut your mouth? So yeah, the nerves are real, Like I like the takeaway from audition. It wasn't even about the performance. It was like broke dude, dial it in, like walk in, do your job, thank them for their time. But like you know, I was nervous and I haven't I have a horror story. I've spoken about this a couple of times. But there was one audition, um I think it was it was the

show doesn't matter. Actually I wish I remembered the show so I can call him out right now. But it was, uh, something I was excited about, you know. And I showed up and I'm waiting next up. So they moved me in a room closer to the room that you're going into next. And then the guy comes out and then I hear inside the room like, oh, who do we got? Who? Do we got next, Like we got Stephen Clartie, Stephen Clartie work on One Tree Hill and then they go, oh,

another one of those One Tree Hill horrors. Huh what? Right before I'm about to walk in the room, and I was like, all right, what do I do here? I wanted to walk in there and and just say something and turn around walk out. But I went in and did my job and left. And it's kind of like I've been kicking myself ever since, like I should have said something and just been like, you know what, I'm out of here. But you know, you were a professional.

So my my wife Jenny, she kept a acting journal of every audition she went on, and so she she dug it up recently and she was like, oh my god, I went out for the pilot of One Tree Hill. It was like, no way, and she's like it might be in my journal and no. She digs up her journal and she's like, yeah, I think she. I think she read for Like Joys. And then they were like, no, I think it wasn't called her characters name at the time,

and then Sous character wasn't brooked yet. But it was like like, I think we should come back to be a cheer. But basically, like in the shuffle of her being the casting office, she overheard the casting director talking on the phone, I'm presuming to an agent. Jenny wrote down the quote and it was basically, Um, look, I'm not looking for Meryl Streep. This is a c W show. They just need to be able to chew gum and walk at the same time. This is gold part of

what's going on right now. It was I was like, oh my god, that was the casting director of the original cast matter of our show, A woman whoever was That's what she said, just like I don't need a Meryal Streep, I just need someone who can chew gum and walk. It well, now I know the part you and Nathan did it so well. I want to ask me the question what everyone's doing great? Um? What what? What platform do you guys wanted to be on? Like, if you have your dream, is it Hulu? Netflix? Like

do you want to what do you want? We have episodes ranging from twenty four minutes to thirty seven minutes. Uh, it would not fit on traditional TV, so I think we we we've always kind of had the idea would go on a streaming service. I think something like Hulu or Netflix would would be ideal, or Amazon of course. And then regardless of like let's just say I believe Hulu or Netflix absolutely, but will you put it out

somewhere else? Like what other streaming service could you do just to get it, just to get the fans excited to watch it, because you two are gold together, So I don't I think if it's out there, then people are going to A network is gonna then obviously open their eyes and be like wow, or a streaming service.

What we're kind of doing right now is courting like the independent film distribution model, where you can sort of put something out like d I Y distribution for rental um or have people buy it and then you know, if it does well through through sort of you know, that way of distribution, then you can then have you know, a streaming service come to you to license it for their subscription service. Um, you know the other season hopefully. Yeah.

We kind of produced this thing knowing that, like independent television was something that might not be hitting quite yet, like it maybe as big as independent film is someday, but it really isn't quite there yet. So the we went about it in an experimental way. And you know it may come down to us having to distribute it in sort of an experimental way. Um, and you know, hopefully get that licensing deal, but you know, a sort of rental or you know, buying option first. Um, that

might be what we're presented with. YEA follow up question, Um, you know this one, This one kind of comes I think both from didn't it? Uh No, that's actually it's funny because it's what my questions about. I thought, I because I was just like I had kind of been like I'd love to be in it. Never got a call. Yeah, so on behalf of Jane and I guess my question is, Um, where do you get off not hiring either of the fact that you asked for thousand an episode, knowing very

well that we raised money on Indiego Go. You said, well, this is my quote. You either get me or you don't. I mean, that's that's where this conversation stomped. Do you know how many dozen of fans I would bring to your show? You blew it? You dummies. Buckley just coming in sour, I'm open for a season two. I'm like trying to like, I'm okay, I know a producer that could maybe get your show on a streaming service. And

I'm already I'm already trying to play. I was like, I'd like produce a credit and an actor in it. So I'm already like I've already had side conversations with Stephen, like I want to hustle to get on this. Everyone's doing great. See, I've been just way less a depth, and I'm just like, you know, what you should have in this is another white guy who's like decent at comedy but not really that good. Your plan is better. Wait, was the profound thing you wanted to say? Okay, I

have three things. The first one, this is just this is some wisdom or a secret, whatever you want to call it. Okay, this is a little gift for me to your listeners. Okay. The first one is moisturize your neck. This is something people aren't going to tell you. Cosmo is not going to tell you this. Okay. People say, moisturize your face. That's great, but you know what happens. You don't moisturize your neck, and then you're fifty with a seventy year old neck. So guys, don't stop at

the chin. Take it all the way down to the collar bone. Yeah, ladies, get your chest to take it down to the collar. Yeah. No, you're actually right. The second one Okay, I'm not going to give you the third. I'm not going to give you the third, James, so stop asking. The second one is the secret ingredient is always butter. True because when I make mac and cheese for the kids and I don't put the butt the two table suits of butter in, it just asn't tastes good.

It's watery. The consistency isn't there. Yeah, when you're talking about for food, right, always when you go to the restaurant, you're like, why is this chicken pocato is so much better than mine? Well, there's a half stick of butter more in there's That's why you dumbed our report. Please tell me the third one because I will not be able to sleep. Why invite me back on your podcast? You've already been one twice in the last hour. Have you ever had a guest come on three times in

one day? And congrats to me? Listen, listen for what I'm lacking in appearances on everyone's doing great. I'm making up foreign appearances on your body twice, so you're already breaking records here. I know, you're amazing. Where can everyone, um follow, like, um, everyone is doing great on Instagram is definitely a good one, Okay, and then yeah that's probably the main one. I mean, you can we have a page on Facebook. Um at d G t V show on Twitter, Okay, follow the guys because they're they're

you know, it's a great show. I already know it is because they're they're awesome, So we should yeah, come on, Well, I saw a little bit of the preview from from Facebook at one time, and we should say also like thanks again to you guys for um for helping us out, you know, through the campaign, and I mean it, I think being here at this convention, it's an appropriate time to like just say that you guys, all the whole cast like really showed up for us and gave their

time and um, and our campaign was not doing that well up until those you know, live watches that we did with you guys. And after that sort of run of live watches that we did, it was a whole different ballgame. It was like it made it made us a failure of a campaign from a failure of a campaign into like, oh my god, we can actually make us a success. So it's really really cool those guys

that everyone is doing great. Everyone is doing great. And Rob Buckley you can see probably next week on one and Down if you want to follow question my bi monthly segments. Hown't we been married for sixteen years? It'll be sixteen years, fourteen years from April eleven. Yeah, but really like it, it'll be two years, two years. Yeah, do that math in your head. I did drop some toothpicks on the ground. I'll tell you how many it is.

What's what's what's been the best part of marriage for y'all? Oh? Man, we we play. I talk a lot. Yeah, we but we we play a lot. Like it's it is just a lot of silliness. Like I feel like I have gotten, uh, exponentially funnier. Yeah, so that that's definitely it. Like you know, they say, like, oh, your best friend, and to be honest with you, even going into marriage, I'm like, no, I'm marrying a cool friend. But that's all good. I have best friends. It's okay. She doesn't need to be

all that. And I was just sitting there, damn, like, no, man, you don't spend this much time with someone and not want to punch him in the throat, Like this is my best friend. You never want to punch her in the throp like occasion. I mean never, And it's just like it's been playing. That's what it is, because you know it is like there's tough you know, like there's hard times, there's all the times. But like if you can laugh, may make each other laugh, it's the best.

Like we I do dumb bits all the time. And she we have a bit where she like she playfully smacks me in the face and guys, here, please please, I'm not quivering, I'm not shaking. Please hear me when I say playfully smacks me in the face. But honest to God, like I love it. It's like if I go away to work or something, it's been like four days and I haven't got slapped in my face a little bit. I'm like, I really, I really missed that playful slap because I kind of need someone to be

like quiet, shut up. That was dumb. Oh wow, what a takeaway. I mean we usually have like some kind of relationship takeaway um on the show, So maybe that's a just slap a little Here's another one. Though here's another one. This isn't one of my three secrets, but this is a good one. It's almost and a half ready. For those of you who aren't married yet, this is my tip find someone who looks good in sweatpants, because

it has been my experience that marriage is sweatpants for real. Though, right, guys, well, no, I'm in, I'm in. I'm in yoga pants, sweatpants. I mean, I'm changing right before we leave for this flight into my yoga pants. So of the time, I'm in yoga pants. And Michael, what did you say were two outfits every day? I was like, I asked you, and I said, do you ever get tired of me wearing the same thing? And was like, well, I wear the same thing. I was like, no, you were the same kind of thing.

I wear physically, the same jackets or the same sweatshirt, or the same genes or the same shoes every other day, and you're always in like your athlete, like the same shorts or at home in the same sort pants. Yeah, we're guys. Were easy, but especially once you're married and you're not trying to impresident when you're like, no, I got my gray shirt in my red shirt. I'm good. I'm fine until next Christmas. Yeah, no specific just purple drink.

You know that whole drink. Oh my god, I love that. Okay, slaps and sweatpants, um, I like it. Well, guys, thank you so much. I really appreciate it. I love you guys. This has been it's like Summer Camp Reunion. Probably going to be our best episode yet ever, and it's gonna blow everything. Okay, I love you guys. Everyone's doing great. Everyone's doing great.