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little I like I need a I'm so excited. That's so much better. Okay. How do you deal with confrontation? How do I deal with confrontation? It depends. Um, I like to I don't mind. I don't shy away from confrontation. You're actually really good with confrontation. I try to be. I try to sit back and wait a minute, because my initial reaction kind of like what Chelsea said last week, is to kind of go. But I try to wait a minute and breathe. But I don't shy away from it.

I was listening to another podcast earlier, and um, they were talking about confrontation. And I know I've said before like I would rather move to a different country than I have conversation. But I was thinking about it, and I was like, that was very like twenties Joanna, where I feel like thirties, late thirties Joanna is UM like

I like and I don't like it. I'm not saying like i'd like confrontation, but I because I you know, I had to do something the other day where I wanted to puke um with a semi confrontation, and I normally would have just been like, no, like it's fine, But I feel like when you get older, that stuff is just like what it has to happen. Yeah, I think you've gotten better at it, for sure. I think you just have to. I think it depends on the

situation obviously, but how you're going to handle it. Like, I think as you get older, you realize to handle it more as an adult and think through what you're gonna say and not just spout off and just and I think you've done a good job with that. I was just thinking about that because I'm like, I used to hate confrontation, and now it's I'm too old to have to play the games anymore, you know. Um. Speaking of confrontation, not not confrontation, but I was I don't know.

We had like a girl's night a few days ago and Pamelan was like she basically said that I am Valume Janna, Vale value you, and Valium is so funny. Like she was like, post divorce Janna is Valume Janna. And just a little backstory. When I got my boobs done, the only thing that gave me a little, like a little comfort because my chest was so tight and so the valume just like made me relax a little bit, and then the muscles, but it made me loopy as fuck.

I mean, I was so loopy, but I was just like we went over to our house for Easter and I was like three days post boob job, and I'm just strutting over there with like my PJ tap and you know, a skirt, and they were like something like Jolie was playing. I was like, Okay, it's fine, here's the deal. It's not a bad thing. But generally you are kind of the get in, kind of one of

the first to leave. Not a bad way, not in a bad way, but like the kids have something to do, it's dinner time, it's bedtime, it's it's something maybe I just don't want to be there or that it doesn't say it's something you just don't know. But there that day, I was like, you got up for a second and I was like, oh, are you leaving? And You're like, no, I'm good. That's like what I'm like, No, I'm great. I was gonna go check out the cheese spread. But

apparently is that me post divorce now? Yeah. So I was thinking about this the other day when we were in where were we were in Virginia And by the way, I haven't taken a volume since day nine of Boop Jobs. So like it's just mean, it's not that you're just on yeah, um when we're in Virginia beach, like you're just so much lighter, so much lighter. I don't know what it is, Like yeah different, I mean you're still Janna, but like, yeah, it's kind of like your like them

all the time. You mean, like when I broke out in a dance party, yes, it was great, but just in general, like we had a little bit of a stressful situation, not knowing if we were gonna be able to get home or not because of Ida, and we were coming up with all the options and even I felt like the devil was broad a lady. I was like, get me home. I was like, it's just a little it's a little sprinkle, and it's like but amongst that, you were still so light. Yeah. I was like, well,

I was like, Sudya want me to do this? And You're like anyway, you were just you were much lighter. Wow, Valium Janice fun I mean, I have a natural value in me. Now, hey, I'm really excited because we have Derrek Kuff coming on the show. He has a new show that he's debuting in Vegas called The No Limits Tour at the Venetian Um, which I'm excited to talk to him about. Also, he is UM. He's he's partnered with m P and because they're sponsoring UM basically to

help people make a difference for people with disabilities. They're actually even donating hundred thousand dollars to the Agatos Foundation to help drive even more equality in sports and beyond for people's disabilities. So I love that. Excited talked to him about it UM and then talk a little Dancing with the Stars. So, uh, let's stay a break and we'll get him on. Hello, Derek, how are you ladies? Doing you guys? Good? Um? Good? How are you? I'm very good. I feel like it's been it's been it's

been a minute since I've seen you. I mean I came back to Stars of one of the times. But I mean you're just like you're up there judge and doing your doing your thing, you know which, by the way, I would have been so nervous if you were the judge. I don't know what, yeah, because I mean, i mean, obviously Lenn is terrifying, and you know your sister she was, she was she was sweet. She was hard on me, but she was sweet. And then carry in like just

you know, Ball and then Bruno like so fun. So but like with you, I would have been I actually am kind of happy that you were. You weren't a judge, you were just one of the dancing pros because like, I don't know, I feel like, I mean, you're really nice, but also you're an amazing dancer. So it's just it's I would have been very intimidated. Let's say, well, I'm sure I'm sure it would have been great. You were fantastic, so I'm sure I would have nothing about great things

to say, So I mean, you're so sweet. Do you do you like being on that side of the things, at the table rather than on the dance floor. Yeah, I like it. It's it's definitely a lot easier, that's for sure. Um. It's always crashing up and people say what's harder, judging or dancing? Like what I was like, Um, dancing, of course is harder. But no, I really enjoyed I think, you know, being on the show for seventeen seasons. Um, you know, I feel like I really I did that,

you know what I mean. I was. There's all different experiences and triumphs and failures and all the things I could have possibly thought of. Um, And so being on this side of it, Uh, my desire is I really really genuinely want to like help and give some sort of critique that is helpful. However, I will say, it's a lot harder. You know, when I was judging on a World of Dance, um, which by the way, I loved that show so good. Oh me too, Oh my gosh,

me too. And it was so it was tape so we could like ramble on and we could just go off and just go on and on and on and on. Um. And if you forgot to say something. Hold on, let me say something. Were fast, Whereas on Tanta the Stars is live and it's like you know, once you once the time is up, like that's it, Like you have nothing to say. So there's times like Bruno will like go on one of his rants and and there's no time left. So it's like Derek of like, it was

a good job, it was great. I don't know, thanks a lot um but uh but but obviously being a coach and have been a teacher, you know, I really want to like give an actual note that I really believe will like help elevate them the next week, not just generalize it and be like, yeah, it was good. You need to be better, you know. It's like, hey, work on this specific specific thing, focused on this this week, and I really feel like it will elevate um, you know,

your routine the next week. And so yeah, I try, I try as I can in the short amount of time I have. Especially this season is Lenn Goodman's back, and so that was before of us up there sould be interesting. Is there one celebrity that you were kind of like is not disappointed him, but in a in a roundabout way, like I wish you could have like they would have been so good if they just let go, or I mean, I'm sure that's probably a lot of them, but is there one that you're like, they had such

potential but kind of got in their own way? Um? You know, honestly, I feel like, I don't know. Actually it's tough. I definitely looked back at my my approach to the show, like in my earlier seasons, I was, you know, nervous, you know, and I was uncertain. I was kind of like kind of faking it to be honest with you. You know. I wasn't really like a teacher or things like that, or choreographer, you know when people used to say like, oh yeah, a good chroographer,

Like I never even looked at myself in that way. Um, And that made me fearful and afraid, so that I definitely would get uh more frustrated, easier in my earlier seasons and stuff. So for me, it's not so much I look back at one of my partners like I

wish they would have just let go. I look back an some my earlier seasons thinking like, man, I wish I knew then what I know now and what I what I how I shifted my sort of approach and teaching and coaching, um, and I probably could have got more out of them with a better teaching approach, which I eventually you know, learned and created and um. So yeah, so it's not so much on them more of myself. I wish I was better early on and I could have given them a better chance and a better experience.

For sure. I also feel like to um, that's that's such a good thing in general with life because it's like I can look back and be like, oh, I wish I would have you know, had more fun, or I wish I would have you know, done this differently, And it's it's not regrets. It's just something that okay, now like you can when you met with a different um, you know, doing doing the show now, like you can

have different ways to look at it. Because I mean, shoot, I would love to go back and redo that season because of all the things that I like, help back on or wish that I didn't wasn't so in my head about or just believed in myself a little bit more. But I think that's just like a something we do

and just in life too. Sure, Yeah, I think I think with when Uh, it's different for you as well, because you know, at least for me, I go have multiple seasons to make adjustments and I have I'm back back the next season or the next season, and I'm like, wow, Okay, I'm gonna try to be better in this situation. I'm gonna try to appreciate this more. I'm gonna try to, um,

you know, strategized differently. And and so I can see how, you know, being on the show as a celebrity and having one season, you might think like I want another go at that, Like I on one another round, you know, give me another round, and um, but you were you were awesome, You're fantastic and like and they still and they still bring up it's like one of the most classic moments. They still bring up that rain shower. That's that's like that's up there in the top in the

top realms of like that happened, and that happened. Yeah, I mean, yeah, that was that was a very sexy dance. But yeah, and I'm like, there was just a few things in that dance. I'm like, I can't believe they heard that, Like when it says give me a taste and he literally listening me up in my like his faces in my vagina. I'm like that he wanted more

than that. It started off even crazier. I know. You guys come up with some like raunchy choreography, dre Wow, I'm not gonna lie, that's that's that's more of a glob thing. I'm not. It's a Russian thing. It's a Russian the Yeah, I'm just I was. I wasn't too runchy. I was. I was even like when I did a rum business stuff like that. For me personally, my you know, the banks of love, um my approach usually was somebody

danced with like Sean Johnson or something like that. You know, So for me it was more like it was like a sweet love not at Grayla. Yeah. Yeah, I think we definitely went fifty on that one. Okay, speaking of okay, fine, you're right um with speaking of love though, So you've been dating how many years? Because you guys started dating when on my season? Right, like so four five years ago? Six years now? Yeah a minute, okay, So I just have to like I have to ask where, like when's

when's the ring coming? Like when when are we getting when? Like if I was hurt. I'd be like, Derek, what the like it's sixty years? No, seriously though, I mean like, you know, girls, and she wants a baby and you know we don't get any younger. And I'm not trying to rush you, but six years, it's like, what the heck are like what are you waiting for? Like after

six years? Like you should know? Right? Sure? Absolutely absolutely, I think um and I think so for so what you don't you know and when people don't see obviously, are you know? Is the relationship you know? Is? Is? Are the different um what do you want to call it? Um phases if you will, the phases, different things, seasons

and relationship, all these different things. And so even though we've been together for six years, like like, we've had multiple relationships with each other, you know, Esther Parrell, she says that she hasn't great she's my she's my girl, man, I mean, she's phenomenal. And one thing that she says, she goes, you know, there's you might have. Everybody's gonna have multiple relationships in their lifetime. The question is it going to be with the same person or is it

going to be other people? And I feel that's how I feel like our relationship has been We've had our relationship is vastly We've gone through like four different versions of our relationship over those years. And it's and I will say for sure now like it is like you know, this past couple of years, it's been like this is

this is it? You know? And so um yeah, so when it comes when it comes to the everything else that comes around that, but you know it, I can see he can't he can't say it, but he has the ring. I know it. He has a thing out and he can't look at I can tell. I'm sorry, I can tell, I can tell. I'm a girl. I totally conduct. It's all right. And by the way, you know, what's it's funny actually is that people like like, oh

does that just said? And I'm like no, honestly, like it's it doesn't bother me at all when people ask or that. And I don't feel pressured at all, like hearing it a lot. It's it's has she pressured you at all? No? No, not at all, not at all. Yeah, it's it's all of and uh. We have our little family of you know, of dogs and cats, and it's just it's wonderful and and you know, to be honest with you as well, you know, I built a house and we've been enough for about a year and a

half maybe two years now. Um, but before that, you know, I was like living with my sister like it was you know why it was it was you know, there was there was no sort of like um foundation or you know that that wasn't even on that that wasn't even in the conversation because there's no way for it to be. So uh yeah, all good things. But you're happy and she's doing and what's great too is that

she's gonna be dancing with me on my show in Vegas. Okay, that's what I was just gonna ask you about if she was going to be on the road with you. Have you guys done that before, like been on the road together when we met. That's how we met was on tour. We met on tour. Actually our first kiss was on stage during a dance, during a rumba um and in front of a whole audience. And actually we had that footage and it's kind of funny, we actually recreated that same dance like a couple of months ago.

It's actually on our YouTube channel and it's kind of put him side by side. And um, so yeah, we actually met on too. Uh, but this is different. This is very very different obviously. Um, and yeah, I'm excited about it. We've been practicing, we've been you know well, and that's it was so funny too, is you know, we were staying in a life where you know, you could go on tour and be away from each other for months at a time and it was totally normal.

As a performer, You're like, yeah, cool, Like we haven't seen each other in two months, that's fine, normal, And now I'm in the time of my life. I'm like, I don't want to I don't want to be away from you for longer than you know, a week. I mean, I just I needed a trip in Washington for the Candy Honors, and I was gone for a week, and I was like, no, let's not do that. Let's not do that anymore, like, let's let's travel with each other. Was do with each other as much as we can,

and I love that. I feel like after two weeks is when it starts to get there, starts to be that just kind of that tension or that the drift, and I don't I think it's important to to you know, nurture that relationship and to be like hey, if it's a week for you guys like that, it's like, hey, this is it doesn't I don't like this. And it's good that you said that. Quarantine helped a lot because it was like, you know, we uh just really just we just we just you know, fell more in love.

So it was good. Okay, So the residency, You're going to Vegas, the Venetian Um. What what's different about this show? Um? Well, I mean the biggest difference for me at least is, uh, it's in one place because I'm just as touring, so it's always like wake up, different venue, different stage, um, which I love. By the way, I can't wait to tour again. I love touring. But what's exciting about this one is it's again it's like live band, live music.

We have the most incredible dancers, all start cast dancers. In fact, one of the dancers I've just hired he won the last season of Dancing with the Sorry of World of Dance with two other girls called MDC three and he is mind blowing. So um, it's it's an incredible cast. Honestly, I feel like it's I don't want

to say the best dance show in Vegas. I think I'm mean I'm gonna I'm gonna go out there and say that, man, because I I really believe in the just the performance and these dancers and what we will. We have, the content we have, the costumes are amazing and beautiful fool and uh, it's gonna be good. I'm excited. I mean, you're the most awarded choreographer. I mean you have.

I mean, it's it's insane. So if if I was to put a lineup, like, yeah, I would, I would definitely be like, Yep, that's the show I'm going to go see. I mean, the chippen Dales is kind of exciting. But at the same time, like, I'm sure you're going to take your shirt off with the ladies too, So like there might be a few flashes, a few things here and there, is there is there one? Um like how long have you been even like prepping this? Well, originally I was supposed to be in Vegas last year,

but obviously promis reasons. Um, so it's been on my mind for over a year. Uh. But it's funny because you know you think, like, oh, we got all this time in the world and um, and then all of a sudden you're like, Oh, we're going to rehearse on the stage in three days, which is true. I'm gonna be on stage on Monday, on the stage rehearsing for it. Um. Yeah, yeah, So I'm it's it's been there for a while, but

I'm excited about it. It's it's gonna be good. But I will say there's there's also that excitement of like it's like and I am, I is my body ready for this rehearsing And I'm like, I'm like, you know, like not oiling it up like externally internally, you know, all my joints of the things, like there will be some oil maybe maybe. I'm sure the girls will appreciate that slipping off, slipping off my body while we're trying to dance. Um. But yeah, it's gonna be good. Man.

I'm excited. I'm so excited for you. I think that's. Um, I'm gonna I'm gonna check out the dates and I'm going to come to a show because we're actually going to be in Vegas in September, but I think you don't start until it's October. Is that when it starts September two, September two until November one, and I'll be you know, flying back and forth doing yance with stars and the show and they'll be fun. Man, it's gonna

be good. You're taking over the world. What is your best now that I'm back out in the dating world, what is your best of dating advice for me? My best advice? Oh goodness, Oh boy, you know me, and you know we've spent time together, and I see, well, you know how I want to say this. You don't have to, you don't I actually, I actually was gonna say this because I think it's different for you. I think I guess I don't know necessarily like the history and whatnot. But I always say, um, you know, my

friend was like a he's like a serial data. Right. It was like going to compare here there and nothing really stuck, and I just almost I said, hey, man, just kind of be like to come be on your own for a minute, you know, um, get just get the appetite, you know, for the for the main course,

if you will, um. Because he was kind of having these little appetizing relationships, you know, where it was like okay, but and so you were kind of you know, when you eat kind of like you know, you kind of have you're almost like not ready for the main course because you've already like over appetized essentially too many chips. Let's go, let's go. Oh, I'm salivating right now by

the bad so bad. So that that was just something I said to him actually, um a while ago, and uh yeah, and it seemed to it seemed to be a helpful advice. And my problem is is I I skipped the appetizer, of course, and I go straight to the main dish because I want the main dish. But yeah, no, but that's good. I need to eat more of the spinach deaf and then and then cut into my steak. Now I'm really freaking hungry. You've been shooting a movie with Marie Minos, right, I am obsessed with her. Yeah,

we bet she is like incredible. Um yeah, we just we wrapped it about a month ago, and she played my best friend in the movie. And I just saw an edit of the film and it's she does so like she's so good in it. So I love her. She's she's just been uh such a just blessing, you know, in my life and in so many people's lives and she's she's a forest man. She's got incredible energy. So I saw you guys. I saw you guys together and I was like, hey, hey, I know I love it.

That made me happy to see you have what's what's the equal to podcast? Equals to podcast? So it's a it's a six part series UM that you can find on any different you know podcast UH platforms UM that focuses on UM. You know, paralympians and Paralympics and you know, people with equal rights for you know, people with disabilities and UM. The reason why I got so interested in that UM is because, uh, I danced with Amy Pretty.

You know Amy Pretty, who was a paralympian. She had too prosthetic legs and we you know, I was actually teaching her in Sochi, Russia, while she was competing in the Olympics. I was teaching her and chat out of the morning and then she would go compete. I was it was, I was like, are you sure we don't need to do this right now? You have to focus on what you're doing, and she was like, no, I don't know. So for me, I always found it so UM.

It was so inspiring. Obviously and I just she's such an incredible woman, and she really embodied that expression, UM, what if? What if life isn't happening to you, it's happening for you? You know, we're always like why did this happen to me? Why always met instead of like, well, why did this happen for me? How can I turn this into a gift? How can I turn this into something that is going to you know, serve others as well?

And she really really embodies that. So this podcast is all about, you know, celebrating telling stories and also talking about you know, conversations that um are just kind of normalizing and also educating people in that in that world with people with disabilities. So that you're doing that, that's awesome, Derek. You're incredible and I appreciate you, and I can't wait to see your show in Vegas and hopefully i'll see you. I'll pop by maybe for a taping. If they are

they going to have uh audience members, I don't. I don't know yet. They haven't told us. And then I'm like, I'm keeping I want to know too, you know, I feel like there's like you have to like that was the part that made me the most nervous, but it also gave me the most energy too. Like I know people at home we're watching, but it's just something about having people watching there. I don't know, whole different elements. Last season, we didn't have an audience, and I was

concerned that the energy wouldn't be there. But between the crew, camera, other competitors, everybody kind of like compensated for that. They were like extra loud, and it just it felt pretty good. It felt like the energy was there. But listen, I that's why I'm going to Vegas. That's why I love going towards There's nothing like that, uh, performer audience relationship. It's just that, like it's an amazing experience to share with one another. So I love it all right, Derek,

go up, go go dance away. Thank you so much. You know, it's interesting something that he said in there was life isn't you know? It's not happening to you, it's for you. And I was reading I've been reading this book called The Surrender Experiment, and it's so great. He was basically saying, like how he just surrendered his life to the moment and he wanted It's silly um scenario, but you know, it's it's about like having gratitude and

being positive. But he's like, it's raining. You know, it's raining, and most of it like I can go through it's raining or whatever, and it's like, okay, it's raining, Like this is so beautiful, it's going to help my grass, or like what can I do inside today that I would normally not be able to do, or like I'm gonna watch a movie or so it's just like finding the positive for in this. Okay, why is this happening

not to me but for me? I love that it's so good, And I think that's sometimes easy in the smaller things, but hard and the bigger things, I mean so hard. That's why last weekend when I was like bawling my eyes out, because it's like, you know, you have those moments where you're just like, I get that it's not happening to me, it's for me. But at the same time, it's not easy. In the silence that can't be I mean, that's not easy. So you just

have to take it one day at a time. But you know what I told you in the car today because we were having a conversation and I was talking to her about you know, um, a few conversations about Mike, and you said, which part, like, your guys are really good? Oh? Yes, yes, I've been impressed y'all. Are it seemed to be really good getting along? We call parenting. Well, yeah, we're we're co parenting, you know. Well, and um, you know we have conversations every once in a while. And she's like,

you said you were proud of me. Oh, yes, I'm so proud of you. I'm like, I'm sorry, I don't know. We had a lot of conversations in the car. Yes, I'm so proud of you. You've done a really, really, really great job. I think you have. Oh I know what we are to now, I remember. Anyways, Yes, I'm very proud of you. You have done a good job, and you've put things aside, and I think you've just decided to you know, it's more important to get along and be happy. And well, you know what I said,

as I said, um, what would the Kardashians do? Oh my god, I love that because it's so true, because it's like, you know, you look at Tristan and Chloe and again this is the most probably stupidest example ever, but they just seem so forgiving. Yes, it's like once they're part of your family, always a part of their family. Yeah, like Chloe. Yeah, like Scott Jeez, who are like somehow still I just love Scott to sick. I don't know

why I like. I don't know. I don't like the lot late, like the latest thing that he did, but it doesn't matter. I still like them. But um, when it comes to you know, I just saw, like Chloe interest in taking their little one to you know, gymnastics or dance or whatever. And it's like to be able to look outside and say, Okay, did Mike hurt me? Yes? Did do I like what happened? No? Um do? I still get upset and I'm sad, absolutely like I have major cry facets in my house when it's silent, and

but I'm also trying to flip the switch. Okay, how is this not happening for me? It's not happening to me, even though it feels like it is. Um and I still don't feel like I've gotten that one apology that I feel like I deserve. But at some point it's just like you just have to let it go and be like Okay, this energy like holding onto all this stuff is and I'm not going to get the milk at home deep, or I'm not gonna get what I want home deep, Like I keep going to home deep

I and getting it. Like my therapist said, so it's just so he come up comes to a point where you're just like okay, like it's you have to just not move on, but just be like this is this is just who he is, and I there's no point in having this resentment, even though yes there are times when I'm so upset and angry at the situation and what happened, But at the end of the day, nothing can change. We're not getting back together, and it's just hurting you. Yeah, you know, you have to let it

go for you, not for him. You have to be able to you know, it's not going to change how he feels. It's not going to change anything other than how you feel. So you know, now, that doesn't mean it's not gonna be hard at times. And maybe you're not ready to go vacation like Scott and Courtney with the family, but that doesn't mean he can't get there

eventually or figure out what you're normal is. And I think you know, and hopefully we're on the path because once, because once I let it go, like okay, that I'm never going to get the apology that I think I deserve, and also knowing that I can't change my reality, and also knowing that it what what. His actions weren't directed towards me, even though it felt very personal, and I'm I'm still angry that his actions lead to the divorce, But at the end of the day, we are here

and this is what it is. And now I'd rather be friends with him than hate him. It's easier to be friends with him than hate him, because hating him just feels bad and it's just bad for you. Again, it just comes back to it's just gonna eat you up, and what is it? What's it going to get you? And I'm going to do what would Chloe do? Chloe would go to So I'm like, you want to come to soccer with us? Come on, Like, let's just what's best for the kids. What's best for the kids is

that we get along. Maybe one day we have family stuff, Like he invited me to go to the movies with them, and I told you it was a little too soon. I left and I started crying and I was like Okay, that felt too family, Like, well, I think you have to protect yourself a little bit and take it a little bit at a time. Yeah, and it doesn't mean that you have to do what the Kardashians do. It

might not be that comfortable. I mean it's hopefully down the line, like I would love, you know, to be really close with whoever he marries or whatever, and like I would like that, I genuinely would. Sure. Yeah, well that just takes time. I mean it's still yeah, but maybe I just yeah, I need to I need to not rush into Let's just start with being nice to each other. I have. I have been nice and I'm just glad, which is great caught up to that. Yeah, I'll just be kind and take him day by day.

But I thought it was kind of funny. I was like, what would Chloe and Kim do because they just and Courtney, Oh that's true. Well, oh that's right that Courtney. But it's I think there's just something about forgiveness, and um, forgiving. Forgiveness isn't for the other person, It's for you exactly,

not to like hold onto it anymore. What else, Catherine, Oh my god, what I'm officially Cramer oh, yes, I got an email from my business manager and he goes, hey, your social Security number came in your officially Cramer again, and I'm not gonna lie. I cried no because okay, I'm not gonna get heared. Um, I cried because my kid's names, I'm not like, I'm like, those are my kids. Like then it just felt so like separated, and I fee like like that really sucked. Well, here's one way

to help me. Look at it from a different name. Wanted to keep Cramer, not because of not wanting to take his last name, but just because obvious. You know, you're known as Janna Kramer all that, so you had thought about keeping that name. Anyway, it's easier to say to the Remember times i'd say cossin ce A U S s as in Sam I am, They're like Coffin. I'm like, oh my god. I literally just spent two seconds spelling it up for you and then said Sam, Sam.

I can't say Sam, I said Sam. But if you would have kept it, then you would have had a different last name as your kids, but it wouldn't have felt that would have just been normal. But then since then taking cosson, it's like okay, we were like this family even though you know, I still went by Cramer

and some things just because again it was easier. But I just think having like now having you know, the new I D and it's saying what my license still says Costin but now that I'm officially Cramer, I don't know. It just it broke my heart, just for the kid aspect, Like they're my kids, they should have my last name. I burst them. I know that's such like a big debate. Yeah, no, I get it, but like I get the whole man like, but at the same time, no, like I those are

that they came out of my my belly. How does he get and I have them seventy percent the time get the last name, because I mean, this is more just like a funny debate. But I have them seventy percent in time. They came out of my vagina. Why did we adopt the whole that they're named after the dad's It just seems because they sperminate. I don't know, like they come out of our bellies and we had to hold them in be sick. So I'm with you on that, Like it's not fair they should take the

woman's name. We can change them to Cramer. I guess look, I'm gonna be like, hey, Joela Creamer, you should change it when you're dude. That's gonna go. Um, but yeah, I don't know that, just like really that really that hit me kind of hard. But then also I'm like, but then after I cried, I was like, I'm Cramer, Yeah, like I've always been Cramer. And then I cried again,

and then was this all today? No, it was yesterday when Kevin, and then um, and then after that was my I basically like, I never change my last name ever again. No, please don't. I will never pain in the butt. Yeah, I'm never going to do it again because at this point it's like I'm already not my kid's names, right right right, Sorry, future husband for many reasons. Sorry, I'm just gonna go ahead and apologize now. I you know, at times, no, Janna, I happen to talk bad about myself, don't.

I'm a second person? Is that second person? I am a great wife? Yeah, you were a great wife. I am a great wife. I wasn't. I was a great wife to my ex. No, I wasn't perfect. I was a little passive at times. I had a hard time dealing with trust in the cheating in the affairs. But you know what, fair, fair, fair, I would have you know. But I think I'm a good wife. And to the next person, I'm not saying sorry, I'm saying you're welcome. Yes, you're welcome, Okay, because I am a catch. Okay, she's

malliam Janna. This is amazing through it part. I mean seriously, I'm going to have a dance party and be like, you know what, mother efforts. I am a catch, and I am fun and I'm a good wife. And I will rub your back and I will not make you dinner because I don't know how, but I will try. But I will get the beau a few dishes you can do. I have a few. I'm a great side person. I mean like sides like I would do great size, I mean great salads. Um And I'm funny and I

like to travel. I feel like I'm filling out my dating profile right now. I'm funny. I like to travel. I'm very spontaneous. I like long walks on the beach. I love a sunset. Um my faults where I can look in the mirror and say, okay, I can be a little passive. But I'm learning how to do that. I'm learning how to not have you read my mind. Um,

it's impassive. We're passive aggressive. What's the difference? I me not passive aggressive, so I'm not saying yeah, okay, kettle black Wow did you say glass glass rock, like glass house or whatever. I went to the door. Oh the door, Oh that was that's since been shattered, by the way, I'm still picking up pieces of the pantry door fault. Yeah, Beth, she grabbed the bat like. I saw people's comments like, oh, go gather, and I was like, oh, should I take

credit for this or should I think it was not me? Um? Anyway, moving on to the fact that I'm a Cramer and my kids are not here. We go. We're going to Vegas, which I'm super excited about for the Heart Festival. I cannot wait to just get dressed up and have fun. And um then a gamble wan a gamble a little bit. Let's get fun, let's get let's just get like real fun Valium jam in Vegas. By the way, again, I

do not promote valum um. This is this is just a this is was a side effect of and I was on my boot job that I took some By the way, I'm very happy about Stiff. You definitely seem like, okay, well, you know what, that was a great episode and I can't wait to talk to you gus next week. Bye bye,