Ep. 8 Big News

a big announcement. I don't even know what's going on. Well, then we're in a boy, we're in lots of trouble. Then you don't know what my announcement is bad? I have an idea, but an idea. Did I land my first big major role post one Tree Hill? Would be great? And I can pursue my golf dream would be great.

What do you think it is? Producer Gen? While I was reading the comments Monday night, and I was thinking, everyone has their own idea of what it is, and I've been sitting next to you for like six weeks now and I have no clue. I really, I really don't know. It could be acting, it could be a new album. I know that you're performing at the forum coming up. So I was thinking maybe new music, new album.

Hm oh. There were so many different There was album, there was pregnancy, there was acting, there was divorce, I mean everything, and it was like all of the above. Um. But actually I do have an EP that I'm going to be releasing later this year. That's not the announcement. Yeah, so I am doing that then this year. Awesome. I'm still auditioning, but I've yet to land the role that will come yeah, um okay, but I'm just gonna put it out there. So Mike and I have decided that wait,

what we're calling it quits? Jenna really wants you talked so highly about him, Jenn, this is actually all your fault. I'm gonna blame you, thank you my fault. She wants Wednesdays, I do. So we just wanted to be happy about it because you know, so in the midst of all that, we decided that we are going to also have Wait but we're actually not though, let's just wait. We don't want to start off actually no, no, no, no, we're great. We're happy. Um we are. I'm gonna cry, like almost crying.

I'm yes, we're having a baby. Oh my God, when's the due date? Um, it's a November November baby, I'm crying, are you? I'm so happy for you guys. Are you excited? Michael. It's been a tough. It's been a tough journey. I mean we um, I've I've we have lost our last two pregnancy, so it's been it's been really rough. And UM, so I've have we've both had a really hard time with this one because you know, the last the one

we lost in October. Last October was um was that we went to our ten ten week culture sound and it was gone, just breaking, Yeah, and we had already heard the heartbeat and I was it and so that was just really hard. And then we did IVF and it worked and then I ended up having chemical loss, but just like going through like IVF again and then

being so like it's just it's it was just really hard. Um. And I've I've actually took a bunch of videos that I'm going to share, um probably I'm starting my my YouTube channel, so I'm gonna share those on my youtubes. Yeah, so because I just want people to know that, like they're not alone. And um, but when we found out we were pregnant, I mean it was a total shock. But this is exactly what happened with our last pregnancy.

We did IVF. It worked, and then I had a chemical loss, and then the next time I ovulated, I got pregnant with Jolie, and before that we so every time was after an IVF cycle. So I don't know if, like I wonder if it has something to do with it. I don't know, Like I don't know if my body

just needs that extra progesterone or if it needs it. Yeah, I have I have no clue, but I mean, you know, every appointment though, I was just like and we we kept passing because the the baby after Jolie we lost around like seven weeks and so I've had like three miscarriages too, chemical so three miscarriage and then so five

total and two chemicals. So it's just been like it's been tough because we've wanted to tell people, but at the same time, it's also that hard thing of being like and we lost it, right, But we're so far. I mean, we're past the we're past the like scary point. But it's all it's all scary, that's the thing. Like, I'm so excited, we're so excited, but at the same point, it's just like it's all just in God's hands, and

which is just it's just such a scary process. Really, it's such it's a true miracle, like we were saying, like to to have a baby, it's a real it's it's truly a miracle. I mean, it seems so easy when you look at some people, but then other times it's like it's a miracle like having to go through I mean, because there's still things that could happen. But I'm trying, I'm trying to think positive. It's just like it's hard. Well, your experience, your past experience, is creating

what you feel right now. So it's but the thing is is it is scary. Even when you're healthy and you've had really healthy pregnancies, it's still scary. It's terrifying. Well like if they're not kicking, do remember that you're sitting there and it's like even felt them for And so my girlfriend Lisa she Um when she was pregnant with her first daughter, Raylan, she didn't feel kicks and she just had that mother's intuition. She's like, I have to put the hospital and if she would have waited

thirty minutes her daughter would have died. So it's just like things like that. It's like even on top of it. So there's so many things that go along with it. It's like super freaky. But at the same time we're so excited. We're very excited to bring h sibling. It sounds like, you guys know what's the sexes, Well, we do, but we want to be a sure so we haven't had that. Um you know, I'm sixteen and a half a week, so we haven't had the the gender ultrasound yet.

So I just want to be sure of that first. Because we've had a few friends that have gotten the blood work like we did, and it actually was wrong. I had a friend that happened to and how is the blood work wrong? I don't understand that. It's so crazy. And you know what's the hardest part about that is you get so excited and attached to the thigh like, oh, I'm having a boy, I'm having a boy. Oh they're out buying blue stuff, they're you know, the dad's thinking

about what sports he's going to play. And then you go back in and they say, oh God, I'm so sorry you're having a girl. You're like what I always knew Rocko was a boy? You did? I did? I always thought I was going to have a girl, had the name picked out everything, like first name, middle name. I knew. That's awesome. And then they told me I was having a boy and I had to have an already got the name. That's not right A boy? What

do I name him? I have no idea? Like I had no idea, So I just started flipping through, um sane boy. The boy names are hard. Boy names are yeah, like we have we have both picked out for each, but we had way more trouble with the boy name. Yeah, how long was the list? We already knew our girl name? We had our two. We had two girl names from like the time we met. I was like, Hi, my

name is Jenna. We're gonna date, we're gonna get married in these are my kids names, and like literally like we were in the early stages and we were just messing around, like writing down names. And the two girl names that we wrote down, one of them was Jolie Ray and the other one which we won't say in case the girl we don't want to take it true, Like I don't know people they know, like I'm like, hey,

these are the names. Yeah, but so like we know what this one is and so you know, once we confirm that it's a girl or what or a boy or whatever it may be, then that would be a girl name. And with a boy, if it's a boy, then we'll just be like, well, how are you how are you feel? Like, are you excited about the pregnancy? How are you feeling? I'm super excited because we've tried really hard and it's been a long road for us to you know, get this second child that we both

so you know, eagerly wanted. Um. I just think it's we have a greater appreciation for the miracle of having a baby because of what we've been through and what you've been through with miscarriages. And I think anyone that's been through that definitely can relate. You know, there are some fortunate couples out there that bang, bang, they have

their kids, no issues, and that's amazing. UM. I think because of the road that we've had trying to get pregnant, not only with Jolie, but the second child, you know, is why Janna is so kind of by the book when it comes to you know, because there's pregnant women that might have a drink or so mody sushi or Deli meat and stuff like that. And because we've experienced

that loss more than we really wanted to. It's like you do excuse me, you don't want to go back and say, and your mind's gonna start playing tricks that if you do live, oh, maybe I shouldn't have that glass of wine, or maybe I shouldn't have done this, and then you have that reason that they could eat at you forever. And so Jane has been great, super strong with as much as she loves wine, right, I mean she just stops cold turkey for you know, wonder woman.

But I mean it was also because I was this was way harder than the first pregnancy. I was so sick. Oh yeah, I mean I was, like I thought I was sick with Jolie. But go ahead of what is saying it was bad. It was bad. We thought Jolie was bad. She was literally, no exaggerating, like bedridden for the for six weeks, yeah, I mean bedridden. And Julie forced me like you know, mama, I'm like no, baby, Like yeah, mom is in the room, like we can't bother her, and like so Julie. We know she's in there,

but you know she can't get to her. So she got used to his good bonding time for Julie and I. That's you know what I mean. And by the end of it, that was it's true that you guys had some great bonding time because you know, Mike's gone at work all the time, and now that since I don't have a a steady job, I'm with Jolie at home and so you know, I'm she's my ride or die

right now. And like it's just but he was really able to, like, you know, she'd come in the room and say no, no no, mamma, love you, and he put her to bed. So they started this like awesome routine together. And I cried the first mom's coming back and messing it up, but like I definitely, um, I definitely cried, you know about it because I felt like I wasn't doing a good job. I felt like I was being a bad mom and I wasn't able, but I mean,

truly I could not keep anything down. So it was it was just, it was definitely tough and I felt like but Mike, I will say, was way more hands on this pregnancy and was just so um and I think just because of kind of where we're at in our relationship and where he's at personally just in a different headspace and who he is now is he was just so much more present with me, and I didn't feel guilty, like laying in bed, I felt like he wasn't gonna like hold it against he was just he

just was there for me, and it felt so nice to be supported. So thank you for doing that when I really really truly needed you. I had been prescribed dic legius, doxillamine succinate and paradoxine hydrochloride delayed released tablets when I was pregnant with Jolie, but this time we talked about bone Jesta, dexillamine succinate and paradoxine hydrochloride extended released tablets, a new f d A approoved treatment for morning sickness, designed to be fast acting and long lasting

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you know, baby, and we're big. You want a brother, She's like, or a sister and she's like yeah, But I don't think she like really knows, Like I think, you know, I'm not really sure, but what do you think? Then? I think she'll embrace it because we've had friends with babies and she's always kind of like wanting to hold the baby, and we have little babies for her, this

realistic one that so terrifying. We actually it's really sad I got this realistic looking baby because the last last October she's like baby and my mommy, and I wanted to get her like a real like a baby that looks real. And it came like two days after I found out I miscarried, and I was like I put this in the closet, um, and then I was like, oh, I remember that the real life baby look alike was in the closet. So we took it out and she's like baby. So but Mike came home, it was like Jesus, yeah,

I know. Even then Nanny was like, um, real baby, but no, it was it was a fake baby. But um. The hardest thing is going to be, especially with Janna with the new baby, is that attachment that Julie has with her, because anytime like Janna will hold like our friends babies or something like that, she's like Mama, like let's go basically put that thing down. I'm yours, like

pick me up. Yeah. Our friends actually and Chad have a eight month old baby boy and I'm always holding him, and the second Jolie sees me, she just starts screaming and wants me to then pick her up and put baby down. She's like down, down, down. Uh. So you will have to set her up as your helper, yes, exactly, and she give her a role so she feels like

she's part of it. And I've already started to like kind of read into things about like you the second child, and you know, things to do, like you know when we do have the baby, like, um, that we shouldn't be the ones holding our new baby when Julie first sees us, so um, like someone else should be holding the baby. Um and then kind of introduced. And then also the baby gives Joli a gift. So just things like that to kind of like maker feel like she's

not being her places and being taken um. But I mean there were definitely things that helps, you know, with this pregnancy. I UM, I had started taking diclegias with my last pregnancy and it worked with then I started taking bone jesta um and it really really really helps the morning sickness. So it doesn't do so it's it's a vitamin B and then um, oh there's another technical term that you know I'll get into, but it's um,

it's basically just helps you helps the nausea. UM so UM, you know, I just it's it's just great because I feel like once I started like taking it and the bone Jessa, it was just it made me just be able to kind of go back to my daily activities and I was still but I was able to function, which was like huge, and that made me like game changer. And then, UM, I also want to give it a shout out just to say thank you too for helping me.

But the reason I truly think I got pregnant was because I was wearing the Ava bracelet and I had gotten it from like my branding manager, um, and I was like, yeah, I'll try it. I never knew I ovulated like I always thought I ovulated in the thirteen fourteen day and I so I was wearing this bracelet and it um it told me that I ovulated in the sixteen seventeen and boom, the next month we got pregnant. But I would have never known. You would have never Yeah,

I know. So I just wanted to give a shout out to them too and just say thank you because you know, a lot of times when we do these ads and stuff on Instagram, you never really know if like if it really really works. But I'm like no, I mean a month later it worked, So it was It's crucial when you're trying to get pregnant to know

it is. I mean, like when you're peeing on like CVS sticks and I'm like, you know, so it's like invest in something that's good and it's pregnant helped me really, not by the Ava bracelet, but I used a digit oh digitally and those are better and I am a late ovulator. Had no idea. I don't know if like my cycle just got like sorry, honey, I don't know if my cycle just got like messed up or not. But um, but anyways, but we're really excited. I'm just trying.

We're trying to stay positive. And again, I feel like by the way, I can't believe you didn't know, Like I was walking in slurpees, Like what normal person drinks from Detroit. That's true. I used to drink every day and I'm from Detroit. To people, it was like, well she's a slurpy girl. Seven eleven. I mean, I've made my you know, the guy at seven eleve. Now, literally I walked in. I know, it's like a buck eighty five. She wants, right, it's like a two dollars in cash.

So I walked in a Cracker slurpy. There's the other day there's literally a line of like eight people. For whatever reason, everyone want to go to seven eleven at that time. He just kind of waved me for in front of them, grabbed my two dollars and I always just leave the change with him, and I walked out the door. I'm a regular at seven eleven. OK. Great. For some reason, the coke like, because I can't drink water.

For some reason, water makes me puke, So like I started drinking like Perry, which I found out because that was that was why I was getting sick, was because I couldn't drink water, so I'd get super de hydrated. So I would have this amazing lady come over and um, they would give me an ivy which would hydrate me. But those only thing I could keep down was a freaking coke slurpy. For some reason, the coke like settled

my stomach. But yeah, everyone's like, I mean, a slurpy to me was like a dead give away, and then people on my Instagram were like, you're not posting about wine, and I'm like, I know, I know. I was like, I know because it makes me sick to my stomach. But I tell you what, December one, I'm having a big old glass. I'm bringing it over, bringing over to my hospital, but I'm bringing over the sugar. And this is We're done. After this one. You're gonna go snip snap,

snip snap? Are you I'm making him snip snap. We haven't really officially talked about right now, so I guess now a better place than on her podcast to talking about our intimate life behind the scene. So I guess I'm getting snapped said Okay, I mean unless you're like planning on having kids with somebody else. No, I just you know, we haven't really really talked about it. Yeah.

Oh it's reversible. That's exactly what I say. Like, I'm like, that seems like, well, why don't you eat your tubes, tad. I'm like, because that's like that's done, that's like done, done, done. So if you want to have kids with somebody else, maybe double edged. I'm kidding. I'm just it's just so final for the girl, like I just knowing that it's like reversible for you. I personally, you know, I'm going to be thirty five this year, and I would like to be done with kids. Um. You know, we've always

talked about adopting. That's something that Mike and I have always, especially BEAUTI when we first met, I was trying to adopt a girl and then it end up not working. But I mean, you know, we've always talked about that in the future. I did bring it up the other day though, I said, should we just adopt a baby? We're having a baby, and She's like, should we just

put in the paperwork now? Like, well, because I figured, just like get you know what I mean, like just like to like two babies or you know, what are you taking Julie, You're really you know But then and I changed from mind. But maybe like down the road will adopt. So that's sweet. Yeah, what are you nervous about? Are you nervous about anything? Mike? Um, I'm nervous about no. I mean, you know, if it's if it's a girl, then we kind of got that downpacked. I'm more nervous

if it's a boy. Um, But in general, just with kids, you know, talking about raisy then with the correct morals and beliefs and values and stuff like that, especially with the way society is now, and like in this big city. Yeah, who everybody gets a trophy. Oh yeah, he was mad because at our daughter's dance or sidle, she's two and a half, she got a trophy and he goes and he doesn't even making fun of the thing is that you are awesome. So I but like, come on, I'm

on mike side and a half. She loved that thing, you know, just see her face light up when she got that trophy. She was so excited. She would have been just as excited if she didn't have one. Right, Really, I do not let Rocco win at everything. Oh well no, she I mean, I'm super competitive, but like because they have to learn that they have to work for it. They have to. But like even just like a little teenage trophy gives them an edge. We did not get

trophies unless we won. But I feel like in this day and age, a lot of people don't think they're good enough, so that would maybe help with the good enough thing. Now, yes, you're enabling feeling step here. No, I mean I get what you guys are saying at the same time, like she's two and a half, Like maybe it can stop at like six, but we used to get a sticker, not even you know, what should be good enough is our appreciation and our reaction to it and our love and like excitement about what she

just did. Like that should be enough as opposed to like giving them something to validate it. Right, did you try your hardest? Did you work your hardest? She's two and a half, she has no idea and she ran around in a circle time, but she did. And the way you react, like what Mike sane is you did such a good job. We're so proud of you, and that should validate her enough, right, I mean, yeah, I get that, but I just I've always been the person

that I I want everybody to win. I challenge that, and I'm sorry all of my friends in Nashville just called a major BS to that, because when it comes to me playing games, I want to win and I want to like especially like if you're on my UKRO team, Like I'm a big Like I grew up playing cards card did you play because you're from like yours is my game and I'm taking my girlfriend? Yeah, not DT you know, I hate it. I still called pine up um.

But like I've I taught every single one of my girlfriends in Nashville how to play, and I mean, and they're still scared of me because I'm But it's just I'm very competitive. So when it comes to me, yes, I'd like to win, but at the same time, like, I still want to be encouraging to my child because I don't want her to feel disappointed. Well, I agree with that. You have to encourage her to be good and better and do her best. But it doesn't always have to include a trophy. No. Can you imagine if

they handed out trophies to every football player. No, and that's no. If she if she starts playing like soccer and she's like five, she gets a trophy, I'm gonna take and throwing the carbon Michael absolutely and be like, hey, you guys didn't win. You're gonna throw it in the trash. I'll do something with it. That's so mean. Come on, that's mean, like you guys, you guys. Then she's gonna be like, oh, because so Dad's not happy with me, because I know my reaction won't be disappointment in the

trash and so you didn't win. Sit in the corner, you didn't win. Oh, I'm not saying that. I'm just yeah, I'm exaggerating a little bit to the I don't know what I'll do, but I know I'll try to articulate and explain that to them that like, hey, we want like this isn't something that we're gonna do in this

household because that's not how our generation was raised. And I think there's certain things that why these generations from now on are going to be soft in that aspect, because everyone has these expectations that they deserve something that they didn't learn. And so that's where the whole that's what I'm nervous about, is raising kids now with a boy, girl or whatever, to have those same values but also be more mindful and caring about feelings because I don't

think you know, our parents and parents before them. You know, every set of parents does the best that they can. We're doing the best that we can. So our parents did the best that they can. But times change. So how can we take the positive values that we learned from our parents and parents before them, but also kind of working in a way where it's still you know, understanding of what kids need now to grow, you know,

mentally and emotionally and stuff. So it's gonna be tough, yes, But I think it's gonna be tougher is that we're going to be like man on man coverage now. And I have a feeling that one of us might get each both both people will get frustrated because it's like, what if it's like two on or three on one, you know, and the two kids getting up against Mike. It's just like where I feel like I'm like getting no help or or him, like if you know, if I'm gone on a movie set or whatever, and he's

like taking care of both kids. It's just like or the baby's screaming, Like you get so frustrated. When Julie is screaming in the back seat of the car, it's like just the more he talks to her when she she screams louder, It's like you do that too. We both have our more though, just everyone has their days. Yeah, it happens when both kids are screaming, It's going to

happen that I know. It gives me anxiety because I feel like it's I feel like you're gonna You're gonna be you need to like, because I'm finding my like with her scream because Jolie scream is getting real like intense now, and the more we say Julie, stop screaming, she pitches it higher. So my fear is that we're gonna have both kids screaming. Mike's going to be like by shut up, like like getting so upset that my fuse is going to go, and then it's just gonna

be like I just I foresee that happening. It's a very unfair picture that's been painted the visual. What I just had was because I've also had moments where you're frustrated, you can't handle it, and I go to only when she's crying screaming, and I talked to herself and say, hey, honey, come here and do daddy, and she's done that. I think we don't have Don't you rap at that? Don't you laugh at that? I'm sorry that was when you're in you know, in bed for six eight weeks bed.

Get me a slpy um. We have a psyche here today, and I'm pumped, but I'm also scared because the last time I talked to a psychic, I was actually pregnant and she said the pregnancy was going to be fine. Well that was a bad psychic. Yeah, and now we have a really really good psychic. Have you seen his stuff before? Yeah? I have, and I'm super excited. I have all kinds of questions and I want to know what's going on in your life? In my life? Is

Mike staying for the psychic dose? My cup? Questions your life? Are you going to be golfing? Talked to a psychic? To my psychic told me that I should leave my husband. Well, that's really wrong. Let's hope that isn't on the docket today for her. And because I'm actually very skeptical stuff and I always come home and I'm like, I got a reading state. And this guy he knew all this stuff. And I even told him like my fake name, and he's just like h And I'm like, how would he

know that? Right? Yeah, I don't. I don't bite hard on that this kind of stuff. So I'll be interested to see at live and see what he has to say, because needs to get the first righting them, because I feel like, because you are the biggest skeptic, Oh for sure, yeah, you get the first question. Yeah, I have to tell you.

I went to see a psychic about seventeen or eighteen years ago in Detroit and she told me I had just gotten engaged and so know, it was about eighteen years ago, and she said, you are going to have two rings and it was like, absolutely not. I don't know what you're talking about. You are the worst psychic on the planet. And then she said, you're going to move west and then you're to move what's again, who are you going to Hawaii? That's what I thought, take

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He came in, they had to go to the bathroom, so he's doing his process and now he's gonna come back in and we're gonna give the first question sometimes like the biggest. There's a new TV series, Seatbelts Psychic with Psychic Thomas Sean, and it's going to be on Lifetime. I love Lifetime. I do too. I want Lifetime. You have to hire me again, please please store my work. It premieres on Wednesday, July eleven at ten nine central Um.

I am so I'm obsessed with psychics. You know. I have all kinds of tarot cards and guide cards and weirdo kind of crystals and candles and everything at my house. I love you. I just used my intuition that I have no idea how to really read tarot cards, but I just used my intuition. Yeah. Julie tried to read my tarot cards the other day and she was like, just tarot cards. I'll bring my cards over, Julie. This

is just what if you shuffled them differently? Who would have read something that was the way it was meant to be shuffled. And then she brought our crystal and I was like, I'm going home. I put crystals all over people's homes. Hey, did you ever put it in your who? Yeah? No, I got I've got an Amazon and I was going to order one, and then I was like, what am I doing? Yeah, aport mission. I was like, I think I'll keep the coastals out of the body up there, Lola, only I want Lola. I

just got my just got my package. We're not doing me add this time. But shoot, oh, I just felt a wave come on in the studio psychic wave. So, Hi Thomas. Hello, I'm Jannah. This is producer jam This is my husband Michael um. So, I don't know how how how you work, like if you just like kind of feel what do you like? What do you just feel the room? Do you feel intuition? What is like?

What's your first Well, I'm a psychic method. I'm a psychic in a medium, So I communicate with people that have passed away, and then you know, I also get feelings about things. Sense is about things, um just around people. You know. I might just get like a message for someone and somebody will say, yeah, I'm going through that, or yeah I'm I'm dealing with that, And sometimes I don't even know necessarily like who's telling him me if

that's something that I'll hear really strongly. So, is there any way that you could start with my husband because he's he's never had a reading before and he's like the biggest skeptic ever. Because I've had a couple of readings and I'll go home and I'll tell him and he'll be like that's such bs and blah blah blah, So yes, yes, don't. I'll just I'll just kind of roll my eyes a little bit, because yeah, I am a skeptic and I own that. And you know, people

can believe and believe what they want. That's fine. I'm not going to discriminate, but he's about to lay them Mike down, might be walking out of your tears or yeah. I mean, we can start with what comes through it. It depends who what will come through for each person. But if you you know, if you if you're open to that, that's fine. Um I UM, so, I mean, I just want to say first off that UM, I'm I'm hearing the name Sylvia. So I don't know who that connects with, UM, but I feel like it's a

relative that's passed that would be coming through. I don't know if it's really somebody. I can't tell if it's somebody that you were really close to or not. But it does feel recent, so recent to me, like as in the last few years. So does that connect with somebody? My grandma Sylvia, her name is Sylvia, and so you and you you she passed in the last five years, Okay, UM, and she's talking about UM. She's definitely talking about also

a new UM. There's a baby that she's talking about that she's I felt like, I don't know if this is connected to you or somebody else, but I like it would be somebody that she would be bringing up. So, um, I keep hearing this, so I feel, um, she raised my sisters, Okay, And who's the letter? Who's the letter? H Is there somebody that she's referencing with the letter?

Was she close to her at all? Yes? Okay. But she's also talking about that she missed a baby, So I don't know if there's a baby that came like after she passed um, but I feel like she keeps talking about this, so I feel And she's also talking about um all the boys, so I don't know if she had like a group of boys at one point. Is this on your dad's side? Yeah? Is this on

your dad's side? Okay? So um. You know. The other thing I just will tell you too is when I connected with you, I felt like you have a very open energy. You know, I feel like your energy is UM. I just can feel that you're a very energetically open um and I feel like you have UM abilities yourself. So I don't know if you if you've ever tapped into that. I mean, I think that we're all intuitive, but I just was getting the message that you you

do have abilities yourself. Um, and you could probably tune into them more if you wanted to, Like I feel you could. You could connect more with them if you did, if you wanted to, if you were open to it, you could connect more to them. UM. And I mean, have you ever felt that that you are well? Yeah, because I just feel like you. Um. Now, your grandmother that passed, she's also having me reference December, so this would be either a birthday connected to her when she passed, um,

but she's having me referenced December. Do you understand that connection. It's definitely coming from her. So it would be like somebody she would bring up that's a birthday, or could be like when she died or I'm seeing December though. Okay, Well she showed me December, so there must be there's some significant date in that month, um, that she would be bringing up that's connected to her. It wouldn't be like the other side of your family. UM. It would

be somebody that she and who's alan uncle? Okay? Is that connected to her too? Okay? Um? For some reason she's talking about Like again, sometimes they will give advice or things like that. So, Um, what I'm hearing about is is um, Um, you know what I'm hearing about is just that, um, there is How do I want to say this to you? But I don't know if there's like a separation with the side of the family or you're you're not as close to that side right

now or something. Um, but I feel, um, it's interesting because your your grandmother keeps talking about two granddaughters that she was really close to. So I don't know, maybe you said so, you said there was a sister of yours that she was really close to. Oh, two sisters, Okay, so yeah, because it kind of feels like they feel separate from you guys. So that makes sense to me.

If you're telling me that she kind of helps she helped with them a lot more than yeah, so that makes sense, and she kind of she keeps watching over them. I feel, Um, who's the r that I'm seeing that's around you? Is that one of your kids? Okay? Um, And she's telling me that she she got to know that person or she met that person. Okay. Um. The other thing I'm hearing about is um, yeah, so we can you know, we can see who there's other people coming through. So um, if if you're opening hearing from

other people too. So I did want to start more. I was getting some more psychic stuff for for um, I'm sorry, what's your first name again? Mike? Okay, I was getting more some more psychic stuff from Mike. UM. So let's just kind of connect there. But UM, I did want to talk about. First off, well, there's two things coming through. First off, when I sat in the room, UM, well, hold on one okay, perfect, So, UM, so this is

coming up for you, UM, A couple of things. First off is UM, well, when when I came into the room, and you know, if I if I hug people or shake their hands or if I'm in their proximity, I'll start to hear things about them. So uh. One of the things I was hearing is, UM, I feel like there's a lot of new beginnings around you this year. So I I don't know if there's like new projects you're starting or it feels like new things with your career, but I do feel like there's like new I feel

a lot of new energy around you. UM. Spirits showing me my sign for I actually see UM, I actually see UM. The the image that I'm being shown is like an anchor, UM that's kind of holding you back. And now it feels like kind of breaks. So I didn't know if you're you know, if there is like new things you're trying to work on or new beginnings for you. But I felt like this was a lot with like maybe with your with business stuff, for professional stuff.

But they're even telling me that it might be more holistically so it could carry over into relationships, friendships, other things. Like it kind of feels like when you look back on your life, they're saying that this year it's going to be a really, um, a really important year for you. It's gonna you know, when you look back on your life, this is a year that's going to be a big there's a big shift for you. UM. And I do feel like you're going to become more open and more

aware in your life. So I just I just feel that that there's a lot of shifts for you that are really positive. And UM, you know, they're just telling me, they're they're kind of like they're celebrating this, so they're they're telling me that, um, you know, this is something that is going to be a role positive for you. UM and I'm getting like entrepreneurial stuff too, so I don't know if you've thought about going more in that direction. Um, but they kind of keep bringing that that that up.

It's interesting because now I'm hearing your name again, so um. Usually when I hear that, um um. Usually when I hear that, it means that there would be So are you named after somebody? Um? Okay, I don't know why. It's weird because I'm hearing your name again and so so you already said your name's Mike. So it's weird because I'm hearing Mike Michael again. So it's like it's like it has nothing to do with that. It's like, and I have to reference that name again. Um. So

you're not named after somebody? Huh. Um Okay, well I'm just going to keep that here because maybe that something that will connect with somebody else. But I keep hearing your name again, um, which makes me feel like, I don't know it's I'm hearing that name again, so there must there's another Michael that I'm supposed to reference or I don't know how it connects. Um. I will tell you it's kind of distracting. So if it's a Michael to him or a Mike too, Maybe is it a

deceased Mike. Well, since you're all sitting together, it's kind of hard, you know what I'm saying, So I will tell you like it it's a little hard to you know, because it could be for you because you're right in the proximity of that person. So, UM, you know, I'll see if I get more information, because that's obviously like it's a common name, you know, um so UM, but I am. I feel like there's a distinct other reference

that I have to make to Michael or Mike. Could be Michael, Michael, Mike, it's the same thing, but I just feel like there's another there's another name that I have to connect with that. Um. I'm also hearing um that And I just want to say this too. When I when I felt when I came in here too, I was all so feeling, um, there is a I feel a grandfather that's coming through to now this person was kind of Um it's interesting because I kind of

felt like this person was more connected to you. But um, it's interesting because I do feel like they have a connection to Mike here too. So it's almost like even though I feel like they're more connected to you. Um, they are more. I feel like they kind of guide both of you. But there there's this grandfather. So sometimes if people are married or things like that, you know there there can be connections and stuff. Um. I'm also getting a male energy that's coming through that pass very suddenly.

So I'm getting somebody that passed really suddenly feels very abrupt. Um. It's like it feels like an abrupt thing. Um. And um, does anybody connect also to this name James or it could be Jim or Jimmy. Um, but um, there's a version of that name. Does that make sense? Jim James? Okay? Um? And so is that on your is that on your mom's side? Okay? Um. I did want to tell you also that I'm feeling, Um, however, this is connected. But there there's somebody on your paternal side that I'm feeling, um,

that watches over you a lot. So did you know your dad's dad? Okay, because they're they're definitely feeling that there's somebody on your dad's side. Um, because it's on the left of you. When I'm looking at you, you're right my left. So when I see so it feels like very much like a grandfather, father figure. But there's a really strong soul energy with you in this person I feel, um. And and also, um, do you understand the name Barbara? Okay? Um, so he's talking about being

with Barbara. So I don't know if that's somebody that you would know, um, that he would connect with. Does that make sense to you at all? Barbara your great grandmother? Okay, so how is that connected to him? That's um? That was so my grandpa Martin was married to is Mary what was married to my grandma Denise, and that was her mom and she was abused as a kid and they had a really close relationship. Okay, So it could

be somebody that would come through too. Um. The other thing I'm feeling about, by the way, are you guys collectively, like as a couple, are you guys moving, Like are you are you looking at houses or something? Because they're just telling me this, you may want to I'm just

hearing this, you may want to wait or something. Um. I'm just feeling like, Um, it's not like I definitely do see you moving, but I'm feeling like, maybe wait a little bit, or there's there's something where you need to kind of hold off a little bit, um, but I'm feeling that you you are to move there, definitely

there show me that you you definitely will move. Um. The other thing I want to say to you too is um and I am feeling this um that your grandfather, Um, you know, just the one that was coming through on your dad's side. Um, So that is your grand okay. And also I want to where is there like a junior senior. There's like two people with the same name that's on my that's Michael's side. Okay, that's Michael's dad

and grandpa. Okay. See. I think also it was weird because I was getting something about you be named after somebody, but maybe I'm sort of confusing it a little bit. Maybe, so you're not named after somebody, but your your dad and your grandfather have the same name. Okay. Um, and were you were you close to your grandfather? Okay? Uh, there's I just want to ask that. But I feel like I have two people coming through with the same name, so I don't know it is so your your grandfather's

passed and your grandfather's My grandfather's alive, he passed. My grandfather and my father have the same name. So my dad's a junior. Okay, and then we are considering a name for our soon to be next child that has the same initials as both my grandfather and my father. Oh okay, so you're naming somebody here okay. Um I'm feeling that. Um oh interesting, yeah, okay. So you are having another child okay, yeah, and then you're going to have another child they said, so yeah, I feel like

I'm feeling like there's, yeah, there's another child after that. Um, it's not twins, right okay, yeah, no, because they're saying there's another child that I say, that's like one more and then there's going to be another more. Um. I do feel also though that went one second hold on Uh okay, I understand, so give us the badness. Um. I'm just feeling also that, um with you with your grandfather that passed it, I don't feel like he passed recently, right,

it's it's yeah, it's been a while. And do you ever have dreams with him? Okay? Yeah, because he's making me feel like he he actually does come in your dreams or he he's done that before, he pops in your dreams or something. Um. And I feel like when I'm connecting with him that you know, that's that's just one of the things that he's telling me that he you know, he likes to do. Um. And it's just a way for him to stay you know, connected to you.

He's able to stay connected to you. And um, you know watch over you that way, Um, we have you know, people will have dreams or visitations or things like that. Um. And a lot of times that is just a way for loved ones to let us know I am with you, I see you, I'm I'm visiting you and stuff like that. Um. I'm also yeah, um now I'm also getting a message about interesting. Also, somebody keeps showing me more of the South. I don't know, is there are the people from the

South or people that live more in the South. We were wanting to move back to the South? Okay um. And another thing I'm hearing about, Hold on one second, okay um. They yeah, your grandfather that I was connecting with on your dad's side, the one in the Barbara. But I'm getting this from your grandfather. Um. He's they keep telling me it's time you for you to write your book. UM. So I don't know if you have a book idea and you just keep putting it off

for something. On it feels I'm seeing like I see things that are already written, so maybe it's stuff that you just have to kind of put together. But I keep getting that that you're supposed there's a books that you're supposed to work on, and it's like you're supposed

to complete it. I feel so it feels to me like if you're if you're open to that and if that's something that you'd like to do, um, I feel like there's going to be a big opportunity with that, or just it feels more like they're, you know, they're encouraging you with that and stuff. So um, I feel like if you're you know, you're, if you have thought about doing that, then it's something that I feel. I

just feel there's a lot of momentum around it. So thank yousiate it felt psychic Wednesday's July eleven at ten nine Central on Lifetime. Oh my god. Okay, so by the way, Mike just left, by the way, but I think he like, he definitely got some stuff out of it. I think because he looked at me a couple of times and was like, whoa, whoa, I do see me crying, I did. I I just have I have. I had the best relationship with my um, with my dad's dad,

my Grandpa Martin. And so the very first time I ever had a psychic reading, UM, the psychic had told me that my grandpa was basically my angel. And he I mean, my Grandpa Martin was I've always said as my angel. Like when I was sick, basically dying in Romania. UM, it's a long story, but you know, I kind of like what he was saying, like the dreams. My mom was sitting in the hospital room with me in Bucharest, Romania, and when I woke up, she's like, do you remember

your conversation? And I was like what conversation? She's like, you were talking to Grandpa Martin. And it's like I have like those things where like I just he appears and I talked to him, but I don't remember it, like I just know that like he was there. Um, and sometimes I vividly remember like having him in my dreams. But so I've always just like and ever since that psychic my first Seychick reading, when they said that you know, my dad's dad was my angel, I just have always

felt it. So That's why I like and I know that too because when I prayed to my grandpa just to basically take me away, because that was when I was in the abusive relationship with Mike, and so when he kept saying, Mike, I was just like and basically remember he kept saying and I said, because it was

like he was like it was a bad situation. And and he said that your grandpa kept trying to like shoot him away, because my grandpa was basically who in my opinion, and what I've always believed is that, you know, the night before my ex tried to kill me, he I prayed to my grandpa and I said, Grandpa, please just take me away. I don't want to be here anymore. And I'll never forget, like when Mike was trying to kill me, like I saw my Grandpa and I basically

saw him like watching over me. And then you know, I obviously lived, but like he's always been my angel. And so every time like someone brings up my grandmama, and I get so like, bless you, I get so emotional, and um, I had a reading from another psychic like a while ago, and my Grandpa didn't come in, and I was really sad. I was like, all right, well, I guess like he just knows that, like he's here, and I don't like need to like you need the validation.

I don't need the validation anymore. But then when that came up, I mean, Mike immediately looked at me and I was just like flooded with tears because I just like, we just had such an incredible connection. So and then he had passed the same year my parents got divorced, so it was just like it was a tough year. It was ninth grade good times. But yeah, so that was that, and then the whole mic thing. I was like, man, Mike was trying to come in stark energy, but that's

never happened. So but I mean he got a lot of stuff out of you too, Yeah, which is like such a random name too. I was going, can't make that up, You can't, you can't make that up. And it was actually her birthday June that it was just recent. Yeah, but it was just fascinating that she was the first person to come through. Yeah, it's like you just can't

make that kind of stuff. I was like blown away. Yeah, I mean it's like, how how can someone again, I understand people to have skepticisms, and sometimes I do too, But how do you just randomly come up with that name? You don't it's exactly Sylvia, Sylvia Sylvia, Like it's not like Jennifer's or Jennifer like, yeah it's Jennifer, It's Sylvia Sylvia.

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go through different phases. Um, but yeah, I mean I just felt I had a moment with my son a few years ago that caused me to reflect on my life, you know, having grown up without a father and a question had growing up without a father, had that some crept into my fatherhood, you know, And and just that I thought, just made me reflect and you know, and then I ended up writing this stuff out because ultimately I want to use my story as a tool of inspiration. Um.

I think it's it's time. It's a timely thing when we see how, you know, what's going on in society right now now in terms of you know, in terms of the black community. You know, yeah, we've we've made a lot of strides, you know, but in terms of family and fatherhood. But you know, I'm out there in the streets and with the eye test this it's we got a lot more work to do, you know what I mean. So, how does your son? Okay, what's the biggest thing that you've like, what what's the biggest thing

for you that you're teaching him right now? Especially attend such an impressionable age. The biggest thing what? Um, just get Well, I mean, you know, he's a he's a great kid, and and just getting him the um you know, I want him to find his passion, which I think he kind of knows what he you know, saying what he wants to do with air quotes, but like find that thing that anchors him, you know, that that that he truly feels connected to, because you can start building out,

you know, from there. And like for me, I've been dreaming about what I do since I was twelve, you know what I mean, And and I sort of my life structured itself towards that. So that's I mean, that's one of the main things. Um. And just you know, to be a good person, you know, clean up after yourself. You know, when did you realize that you were missing though from your childhood, not having that father figure around that you thought you needed to really like make sure

it was there for your son. I feel like, um, I missed that sort of familial structure, you know what I mean in terms of you can have holidays, thanksgives and all that, but like you know, um, some people do movie nights, you know, Friday and stuff like that. Like this stuff that I had to catch up to to realize it's long term worth. Um, because you know, we work a lot of hours with grinding. You know, you get home, you're just tired sometimes, you know what

I mean. It's like, no, you gotta you gotta put it in with your kids as much as you can. Because a nineteen year old fortsen year old ten year old. The years go back quickly. It's like, WHOA, I have a question. I like what you said about your like your ten year old, like allowing him to find his passion. You know, that's something where you know, obviously I feel like in the world that you're in the entertainment world, it's kind of like that's your plan eight through Z right.

You kind of gotta put all all in to get going to get successful. Um. At least that was my mindset. I played in the NFL for for a little while, so my mindset was like NFL or nothing. So when you're you know, raising your your children and you want

them to follow their dreams and their passion. But then that logic of just life in the back of your mind about going through experiences of being like, well, I still want you to get your degree here, I still want it, Like how are you finding that with like follow your passion, but also kind of be safe in that sense, Like how how are you supporting because we disagree. Come Like, I didn't go to college. I didn't want to fall back. I don't want to plan be And

he's like, no, our children are going to college. I'm like, well they're gonna be like more mom didn't and she's successful. So it's like but but I mean, well, I think you know they still have to build um. I mean I'm really focused on education, you know what I mean with them when it comes to that. To me, that's sort of the that balances it out. You know, you got to get education, you know, and don't just go

to college, Like what do you want to do? You know, really getting them and there and there's so many things around that, right Like it's like, for you play in the NFL, you're one of how many people are gonna get to play in the NFL compared to how many kids play Pop Warner playing high school, playing college, Like so that's a chosen few. But even within that, there's

so many other things you can do. You know, if you don't make it as a play or maybe you could be a coach, maybe you can be a training making you can actually build a life around this. Thing that you love, you know what I mean. So it's whatever genre that is whatever, not genre, but sector my kids would want to go into, like you know, one of them, the oldest one, she wants to be an educator. The next youngest she wants to be a triple threat.

Beyont that and then for now at least, you know, my son he wants to I think he wants to be an engineer, like he's you know, bill roller coasters. But he's serious and I'm like, you know, when he was young, I'm like, okay, you can You're gonna be an engineer and he's like, nah, I want to do this.

Does he like riding them? Riding them? We we have a thing where we're go on the front and back just to feel that okay, but he's really interested in, Wow, why how come it felt more like this at that turn? But when we're on the back, it feels like that process right there exactly. I think. What I'm curious now too, is um, you know from Michael, like if we were to have a boy, um, you know, because he's gotta go. We got the girl thing down, like we have a

two year old daughter. But for if we do have a boy, It's like, where's the line between between being too hard and then also letting the boys show emotion too, because I sometimes fear that like he's going to be you know, that real tough, like you don't show emotion. But it's like I want my child to be sensitive and to have so I would just love like your take on. I mean, you can't stop a child from

showing emotion even if you try to. Who they will and guys usually say stop crying your your boy, Like yeah, but they need you know, they kind of need that. Just want them to be, you know, a little tough because I think, like right now, and it's just my opinion,

like we live in a really overly sensitive society. And I'm not saying we got to go back to like super old school, like when we didn't wear seatbelts bring yeah, but I'm like, you know, you're putting all the pads and the thing, and it's just is that just to let the key go outside. It's like, you know, we're we baby these kids too much because and I tell my kids, I'm like, look, life is harsh, and all my discipline is coming from love, you know what I mean?

And you you know you might not like it in certain moments, but that's how you learn. I will always have your best interests at heart. The world don't care about you. So by the time you grow up and you know, especially the young black kids, Hey, you're getting pulled over by the cop. You don't even know. You know, we see what's going on. So we have to teach the kids at home. It all starts at home so that they don't make mistakes they can't come back from

once they're out in the world, you know what I mean. See, that's that's so tough. Like I know, I'm getting ahead of myself. You have kids that are of age that it might that probably are dealing with this the difference between political correctness but also expressing their their own point of view or their feelings around something. It's like knowing when to teach them, like hey, when to follow the rules right and just kind of like keep your mouth shut.

I know you might have feelings. I know you might have an opinion about this, but then also there's other times where it's like no, speak your mind right, you know, telling how you feel right. So have you had to deal with that, especially with you, like your nineteen year old maybe experience in life a little bit more. Is there anything around that? I mean, that's a that's a great question to um. I think it's it's knowing, it's

knowing the playing field. I mean with these kids, now, there's when they're speaking out, you know, against social injustice or what have you. They're doing it from what I see, mostly as a collective, you know what I mean. So if they want to bring an issue to their school, they come together and sort of voice that point. Whereas you know, if you're just in the supermarket, you know, and some random things happened, that's probably not the place you shoot that, you know what I mean. Just keep

it moving. Um. But we I mean, it's a it ebbs and flows. The ebbs and flows, and I think it's at least what I'm discovering it. It is. It's like different phases because the fourteen year old is more in tune with certain things. The nineteen year old was thinking, you know, and then the ten year olds thinking about what he's thinking about. You know, how do you handle technology and social media in your house? Man? Can you even handle it? Can't handle it? Them? Thirty four years old?

I mean, we just try, you know, that's definitely the first thing for punishment, and it really affects them. It's crazy. If you take one of their phones, it's like withdrawal, you know what i mean. I mean we're all getting that hit from our phones every day. Yeah, I mean the the nineteen year old is like whatever because she's a little older, so you know, it's just mostly texting stuff. But the fourteen year old is like Instagram snapshot. Yeah, it's like, yo, but don't text me when you're down

the hallway. We're not doing that. Come down the hallway and talk to me. And then my son. It's interesting my son really it's just YouTube, that's just in games. Does he play games? He's not. None of them are really into like video games, which I'm like, all right, we got we got one that way because you know, I got friends with it. Kids. Literally it just stuck for like hours upon the hours of an hour. So in that way, we kind of that's good because we like to engage your kids. We do a lot of

creative stuff with him. So they like to do things like physically handle lying, handle lying. Yeah, Like if your kids lie to you, like do you or do you give them every opportunity to tell you the truth and maybe like a lesser punishment or do you or like if you find out that you catch them in a lie, like is it It kind of depends on It depends on the situation, because like, like my wife, she's gonna let you play yourself. She's gonna keep stringing you along

and along and then bam you get you know. But really I just talked to them like why, like what was it? We were all kids once, Like most of the time, it's so stupid. It's like not some big conspiracy thing that they were doing something. It's just like why would you lie about that? You know? And I'm kind of like that, like to save the good ones

when you really need. That's where I'm going a problem, the line of walking between being friends and also being a parent, Like because you want to be their friend, you want them to come to you and say like I screwed up, you know, But then they're also scared. I don't know. So it's such a good mind to walk. But you know what I'm I tell my kids all the time, I'm like, look, I'm figuring this thing out just like you are. You know. I don't. I don't.

I've never really had that we're infallible because I don't have all that, you know, And I tell them like, look, I've never been the father of the nineteenyear rule for you know, so I'm human like you. You know, I might make mistakes too, you know, but I know, I know I have the blueprint to certain things because I built it. Now, this might not work for you, and you'll find your way, but I have forty four years of life to show you this works. You know, these

these you know, these tools work. So at least take that and take where you get from your mom and you figure out your own system, you know what I mean. But again, going back to my you know, it's always coming from love. I'm like, no one's ever gonna love you like I love you because I'm the father, you know. But at the same token, no matter how much I love you, I can't walk in your shoes, you know what I mean. So I try to empower them that way,

like lead yourself. I like that. I like the transparency you're talking about, about, you know, admitting to your kids like, hey, I don't have all the answers, And I think that goes farther than maybe it might sound, because I feel like that creates safety like for them, right, because I know, like my biggest thing is like my parents always seemed like they had every all the answers and everything was right, And so if I didn't do things the way they wanted,

maybe I would lie about it because I was in fear of the consequences or because it wasn't the way they did things. But knowing that you're being like transparent and vulnerable with them, I make up that it has to show like you know that then that they can be okay with coming to you and talking about it. And what what made you? I mean, obviously of an

incredible story, but for your book? What was that you just you just knew you had to write a book too, to get your story out and to kind of inspire others. And no, I just I came home and this is in the introduction of book, but I could just tell you here. You know, I came home one day at worked for like fourteen I was so tired. Yeah I'm on shooting now, but this is yea um, but this was what I was doing house and you know, it

was just one of those nights I'm just tired. I just want to turn on the television, vegi out and go to sleep, and my son was about to then, and so, you know, my wife was like, you go

play with him. He's still up, Like I'm here, right, I'm literally I thought like, at least he has And I'm not saying this, I'm just saying this is real, Like I'm here physically your present, but you weren't completely president and that that moment, you know, I you know, obviously went upstairs and played with him, but I started reflected. I was just like, why did I How did I have that thought? Like I love myself more than anything as well, right, And I just was like, what is

that about? And that's such a cool like it just spurred this whole Oh wow, maybe I'm missing certain things about fatherhood because I grew up without a father, you know, and as I started to explore my own story, it just sort of came about until I'm writing a book. Now. Well it's amazing. I thank you Omar so much for

coming in and you know, sharing this with us. He's got his book out, from Fatherless to Fatherhood, and yeah, you can get a lot of good stuff out of it, so great read, inspirational for sure, at least for me as a new father and stuff like that. So I appreciate you put it out there, man, Thank you so much. Really think it makes you think about what you have

in your toolbox yourself. Well it's a good thing too, because I come home and it's like, you know, we can we get lost in our phones sometimes it's like our daughters right there. It's like to be present, be you know, be there. So thank you, thank you, thank you so much. All Right, you guys want to know an easy way to save money lower the interest rate on your credit card debt with a credit card consolidation

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we're taking a little break. I hope everyone has an amazing Fourth of July. I'm going to be up on the lake with my family in Michigan. It's my favorite place in the whole entire world to be so I'm super excited. Yeah. So, um, I hope everyone has an amazing Fourth of July. But when we get back from the break, um, we are going to answer answer some

more emails. UM. Some of the ones we have from Sarah Struggles with Infertility, Emily Battles of infertility, UM, Savannah my first husband is gained, my second as a cheater, um, and then Jenny three episodes of Lots of Infidelity, which, by the way, I'm going to be sharing that journey with you guys to let you guys know, I mean, there is there is light at the end of the tunnel. I know it's tough, and i know it's super hard

to see. I've been there. So um, I'm I'm looking forward to having an episode talking about that and especially answering some of those emails, because it's really hard when you're in that position. But I I just can't even imagine. I know it's tough and you but you guys put in so much work and you're on the other side and you have this huge announcement. So I know, I know I need to just because I know I need to just be like, yeah, but it's so much happiness.

Journey it is it's it's a journey, and now you can help women who are experiencing it and going through this, and you are way further down the you know, in your journey than they are, and it's just it's, you know, it's so incredible to have somebody who understands. Thanks. Yeah, you're welcome. Well, I cannot wait to chat with you guys. Thank you so much for wanting down with me. I love you guys so much, and I'll see you July nine.