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All About that Bass

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Meghan Trainor is here! And she brought her brother Ryan Trainor because they’ve started their own podcast together!


Ryan opens up to Jana about his journey with sobriety and Jana gives him some incredible advice. 


Plus, Meghan and Jana get some mom-time in! Meghan tells us how motherhood changed her marriage. 

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Speaker 1

Wine Down with Janet Kramer and I heard radio podcast. I just got back from therapy, Catherine. Yeah, have you started therapy. We need an update of where we're at. Well. I've left a voice smail to get my intake. I've spoken to the girl, but we talked about that. I spoke to the therapist. I just have not scheduled my first one yet. Why because I have to do this

thing called intake. And I called and sounds like a lot of excuses that I called again today because you knew what I ask you, because she emailed me and she's like, hey, did you have a chance to do that? And oh, Amy, and you chaned to that because I have an opening here here and here, and I was like, oh, thanks for emailing me. I never called them back when they called me back. So I'll call today. And I called today, but I haven't heard back. Man, excuses, I know,

I'll do it. I promise, stay on me. I mean, it's kind of like it's it's it's interesting, because how on someone can you be on someone? Does that make sense? Like I remember back in the day when my mom was like and by the way, she's beautiful, she doesn't need to lose weight, but she's like, I want to lose weight, and I'm like, we're putting eminems in your mouth right now, like and so that it's like also

the story of life. But and then it's like, hey, do you want me to like tell you to put the eminem's down or do you want me like it's like with therapy, I want you to make sure that I do it? Okay, with food? Shut up? And don't know we did not get them answer now, got it? Okay? I just I don't know. It's because I think that's a good question, thank you, Because I think you would ask me the same thing, like, hey, where I'm at in my life right now? You would be like, do

you want me to tough love you? Or do you want me to be like yeah, go ahead, fun right? No, yeah, I should take my own advice. I agree. I'm good at telling you what you should do but not doing it for myself. Why. I think we're all kind of like that. I think you're kind of like that too. I know. I'm like, everyone listened to those positive voices in your head, and meanwhile I'm like the negative voices are dragging me down. You know. I'm like it's actually sad.

And I was telling my therapist is today I was like, I feel like, you know, it's like with that song coming out, it's been so amazing and I'm so grateful that so many people have resonnated with it the way that they have. UM. And you know, when I shared that post about you know, the views, views and the relationships and just like yess lighting all those things, it's like and what how I then let those voices UM stay and I still let them kind of hang around.

It's been I opening for me to be like, man, I preach it so much, but I also don't like take my own advice. Yeah, I mean I think that's kind of a human thing. I really do. I think that a lot of people do that. Again, listen to my own I would totally be on you if you didn't do something like where you would I mean, so funny. But I think that's just sometimes I think that we see the value in other people. We can offer advice, we can do all that, but for some reason, for

ourselves it's just hard. I don't I don't know why. Maybe your our therapist let us know why hour for now, until like my issues are until your issues become me. Um. You know, it's interesting now because we had a we had a topic that came up, um someone had I was at a restaurant opening and someone was saying something negative about me, and I got and I came back

to my little girl, um my little girl chat. And it really bothered me because I'm like, they're speaking about me from when I was in my twenties, and like granted, like in my twenties, I wasn't the healthiest version of who I am today, and it really hurt my feelings that this person was talking bad about me, cause I'm like, you don't know who I am. You don't know the

work I've done the last ten plus years. You don't know who I am like or who I was in my marriage and like, and it started a really good conversation between us because I think there's so many times when you hear someone say, oh do you know so and so, and it's like, oh my god, that person is like how quick we are to like judge that

other person? Oh? Yeah, absolutely. I mean when you were telling me that, I was like, man, let this be a lesson to us, because I don't think that we mean to you know, but I think people kind of gossip at heart or want to point out negatives in people, and um, but that's not fair. We're making judgments based on something we've heard, or one experience we've had, or whatever it is. But that doesn't mean that that person is a bad person. So spreading that doesn't that just

hurts the other person. So I think it's a good lesson. Yeah. I think it's one of those things where I've caught myself being like, okay, because someone asked me about someone I said five years ago, I didn't have a great experience, but I don't know who they are today, and I think that can be that enough. I think is a good enough like yours. I was saying what I thought about this person. But then also, but I don't know like who they are today, because I do believe that

people change and grow. I mean, ship I'm a walking example of like I'm a better person than I was like fifteen years ago in in relationships and just I don't know, but I wasn't a bad person either, I

was just lost. No, we weren't a bad person at all. Yeah, and this person didn't even really know you, They didn't know me at all, So that's not yeah exactly, which, by the way, these like little gossip sites that are like I think that they know you know, um, I just it just it's so frustrating because I'm like, you have, Like they were saying that I get paid for like to be in these tabloids. I'm like, I do not

get paid to be in tabloids. I was like, they pick up stuff from this and from from this, this, um the show. I am not sending stuff there. I don't want to be like, trust me, like, anytime I see something like it genuinely gives me anxiety. Oh yeah, and I'm and and I also like when I say things because I do want to be free and like talk. But I'm like, oh, crap, I should probably take that part out because they're going to grab that. And I

don't want to be a story on Monday morning. Yeah, it's causing you to second guests being real with the people, and that sucks because I mean every week now we're like, oh, can we listen back on that and make sure there's not something. They still pick something up every week, But I don't know why. I mean, I guess people sell stuff out there, you know. I mean, here's here's the only thing that I know that people would sell would be like a wedding story. Yeah, that's the only thing

I've ever heard of. But I mean maybe or like some scandalous like you know, like yeah, yeah, but like just this stuff every day. It's like, just follow the podcast. It's the same thing. It's literally quotes from the podcast. But people just see they just see the headline and they assume and they just go. It's just it's so frustrating, but you just have to Yeah, I don't know. But I was just like, listen, people like you see me on a daily basis one and that stuff, and I'm like,

it's just gives me anxiety. And they're like, well, then stop talking about it. But like I have you guys, I want to talk like I want to talk about I want to be open, I want to be authentic, but I also don't want to have to monitor everything I say because I'm afraid that like it's gonna get taken apart. But I know my true listeners. Yeah, and then it's like you're not being real, and that's your thing. You want to be real with everyone, and you do

hold back on some things. There are some things that you keep to yourself that you do not talk about plenty of things, but you try to feel as be as real as you can and be respectful. And I think that that's fair. And people can just go back to the person talking badly about you, she didn't know you. That was not fair. And I think you know the lesson for us. If we're talking and someone's truly asking about someone, I think you can say, you know, this

was experience, but you make your own judgment. That's the other thing. I think everyone should be able to make their own judgments on people. There might be somebody that just really doesn't like me, but you really like me, you know what I mean, So it's like you have to have like that's fair. There are plenty of people that don't have to like me, but I don't need them going around telling everybody I'm a horrible person either. I love you. You're not acquired me today, thank you?

Oh my god. Stuff. Um, you're the one that quit on me a million times, that's true, she's never fired me. Just to be clear, yes, yes, kind of well moving on, um, but yeah, So I think it's just a good lesson to just be careful the words we use about other people and we don't really know them. And I again think people can grow and change and um. And I'm again really happy you all are listening to those positive voices because that's what you should do. You and my therapist.

That's something really cool to me today too, because I was talking to her about you know, just life and in general, and she said, I thought it was just a really cool quote. She goes, you can't keep going back to the same well because you're just gonna get poison. I just thought that was so cool. That's good. You're just going to drink poison. I'm like, oh, like, and

you you decipher that however which way you want. Like for me, it's like going back to the same patterns or same same things that I know that like I don't deserve. Um. So yeah, that's the poison that I that I allowed myself to keep drinking. So don't go back to the well. No no, no no, go to the eminem bowl instead of the well munching um. So we have a really really, really awesome guest today, Megan Train.

Her she's an incredible singer. She's got a podcast with her brother, so they're going to be coming on and I'm pumped to learn more about her brother too, because I know he's got um, he's got some stuff that he wants to share and express and be open about. So um, let's get them on and before that, we'll take a quick break. Hey girl, Hey wine down. Wow, y'all are stunning. Oh my god. I was just literally saying, it looks like I could skate on my forehead because

I don't have any makeup on. So I was like, wow, I shouldn't like I forget that like we do. I'm like, I'm like, I can literally grab it. Crime that you're that pretty without makeup. Stop. I want to be like, you know how much cake? I have one? Right now? No, girl, please stop, not at all. Um. Good to see. This is my amazing co host, Catherine. You guys having a good day. Great day we got he got up at five, were away a man on a mission right now? Wait,

what's the man on the mission? I'm running the New York City Marathon. I've run. I ran eight miles today, eight miles. Yeah. Is this your first marathon you've ever run? Yes? Yes? Oh wow? And how long have you been training for? I think it's been a couple of months. It's starting to get serious, Like Saturday's in my long runs. I gotta do seventeen this Saturday. Oh my goodness. I trained for a half marathon, but I stopped at five miles because I was like, you know what, I like, I'll

just like walk the rest. And then when I got to like five miles, I was like I feel I mean, I feel pretty good, Like maybe I'll just keep going. So I ended up running the entire thing. But like my toneails fell off, like it's like, didn't train for zero. My body type is like because he inspired me, and I was like, I'm gonna be a runner, and my body type like when I ran for a week straight, I gained weight, okay, inflammation or something. So I hear you on that because I was the same way where

I was. Like my trainer always says like she was like, if you want to be long and lean, She's like, you have to run. I'm like, I hate running. I don't like doing it. Last time I did it, like with the half marathon. But now, girl, I tell you what it's been. It's how I've been able to maintain um. But I will say I was the same way I gained weight for like the first month I was eating a lot and then all of a sudden, it just kind of like sheds, So like give it, give it

a month, and she's like, I'm sorry. I've never I've never had a situation where I'm like, oh my god, I stopped drinking and it melted or like gastating, just like fell off of me, like I've never My body is just like hold on for dear life, like to any fat you have. It's crazy. If I've been trying so hard, like I got nutrition as a trainer, I've

lost all my baby weight and then some. But I want to go now to like where I've never been before, and I'm plat towing and I'm stuck here and I'm like, Ma'm I'm doing nothing wrong, Like why aren't I losing my one pound a week like the healthy way? What's going on? Right? And stuck and I don't know what.

I've started taking bar class, like I'm doing nothing wrong, but my body is just like hold hold seriously, just give it, give it, give yourself two months of running and then let me know, just do it for for two months, like just like give it a try. But no, I mean I feel like I mean, I didn't breastfeed when I had my baby. How long did you breastfeed for? I like pumped for second that three months and then I thought like it'll shut off. It took a month to shut off. So I tell people like I pumped

for four months, like I did the same thing. I don't. I don't know have a pump. I was just like, no, I just couldn't do it. Well, my dude, my I don't know how like intense you'll get. But my doctor or the the boob doctor or whatever lactation specialists was like, your nipples are too small. And I was like, excuse me, what do you hey? Wait what yea? So I had to have like the little pastic Yeah. It was a nightmare.

And he wasn't gaining weight. He wasn't gaining weight, and my baby wasn't And the doctor was like, let's just like give up. And I was like, great, thank you. Well, it's like it's so much more stressful. I remember I'm recently divorced, but at the time I was married, and my husband was like, what are you doing? Why are

you doing? You are stressed out? Like just stop, like to stop because it's like for my first one, I didn't breastfeed, so when I had my second, I'm like, Okay, I need to do this because that makes me a mom, right, Like I need to breastfeed until a year old or whatever. And then I'm trying. It wasn't latching, didn't know what the heck I was doing. I had like this pump on me and I was just like bawling my eyes out, and he was just like, you don't have to do that,

like you're stressing yourself out for no reason. But like, but then I'm not a mom, and like what if he's going to get sick? And Catherine, my husband, was like please stop like begging me, And I was like, they say that you just gotta get like three months in, so let me get How is it though? Like what's been the most challenging thing as a new mom for you? Um? I like those are the challenging, Like the three months. The first three months is tough. Um. And they saw

he saw me like because they live with me. My cue bros live with me. So one morning I walked out like miserable and it's eight am, and he's like, why are you up at eight? And I was like, hey, what it's like so early. I was like, are you joking? Right? God? I was like, I don't have a choice, like lives or doesn't. So how is that? Zombies? Right? All these poor people? How is marriage life changed? Married life changed for you? Since? Haven't they? Actually? Like we're weirdos. We're

like like look at us in this painting. We're like we're so mate lovers supposed to be bonded together for life. Um, we're strange. We I feel like we've gotten closer, especially now that the babies in his own, Like every night that we go to bed, we go to bed early because it's the best, and we um, it's like date night. Like the giggle and no one makes me laugh as much as this goofy dude, and we just like giggle

and laugh and like love you don't mind. So I just love that because you're never you will never remember this story. But we were at UM I used to be signed over at Warner and we were at an after party at Warner, remember remember Um, And we were having a conversation and you were just like who you were saying, like how you're single, and You're like, I'm just never going to find anyone. I'm gonna be alone forever.

And I'm like, Megan, no, you will not, like you're beautiful, like you're going to be fine, and she's just like, but you were like seriously, like there's nobody here. I'm like, he's not here for you. I promise you he's not here. But we had like this like conversation where I'm like, but you were so defeated. You're like, I'm never going to find love, and it's like, yes you are. It's

just yes. I cried about it. I like, but then I tell because I would like because I wasn't even like getting I wasn't even like hooking up guys, Like guys are terrified to talk to me. I'm spooky. And I was like, Ryan, what's up with it? Like I give up a don't just talk to me energy. He's like, you're just like loud and boss and you control the room when you walk in, which is a very good thing. It's not a negative thing at all. Yeah, it's awesome,

but it's scars guy's away. And Darrel was the first guy that wasn't afraid of me, And I was like, look at you, a little bray boy, So who do you say to the girls? Then that are listening, that are kind of that were you five, five or six years ago? That was that there's somebody for everybody here, and like, I don't know. Everyone told me like the second you stopped thinking about it, it's gonna happen. That wasn't true for me. I cried out to the universe.

I manifested that. I remember crying and uber with my best friend and was like, where is he already in my life? And then like a week later I got set up on a date with him and I was like, there you are? You know. I just I'm like, he just out there making silly mistakes, Like did you say that to him? Like, Hi, you do? You don't know this, but like you're my future husband? Oh yeah, I tell him all time. I'm like, where're the f were you? Like? I needed you? So oh my goodness, I don't know.

I like manifesting and saying stuff out loud that I wanted. I remember someone once told me write a letter to God and say everything that you want in this person, and I did and he didn't send me him. But maybe it's fine. It's fine. I'm gonna rewrite that letter and see if we can just add write maybe he still is, though I mean it's not it's not your tibe. May I addressed it to the wrong heaven. I don't know off the mail. Yeah, but here's the thing about

the nice guy. Do you really want the nice guy? Because I had yes, yes, yes, yes, ma'am. I want them up. Who will open that door for me when I get to the car? Okay, that's different. That's different than nice though. I feel like that is just what a man should do. They should open the car door. I think that's like he sees how I work every day, and it's like it makes me breakfast in bed, like that morning, makes my coffee, makes my smoothie is about

to get here. In the beginning, I was like this kids too nice, like somewhere my Yeah, he used to want to be friends and my he does want to be friends with my bros. And he would be like to my younger brother like, hey, sometime if you want to get drinks, like like, I'll take you out and we can hang out. And Justin's like ill, like why does he want to be nice to me? And I was like, it's just because they're East Coast, like what

you wrote from me? And how long have y' all been together now like over five years now, and he like still brings you coffee and everything. That's the new thing. Yeah, we get because in my pregnancy I had just sational diabetes, but I was also promoting an entire Christmas album, so I was not stop going and you have to eat to keep your blood sugar ruddy regular and he would like literally provide me with my meals and he just like kept that going. And I was like, well, this

ain't a bad gig, Like let's keep this up. And now it just does it every day. Okay, that's so sweet. Yeah, because I feel like and he's not like a pushover, because that's that's so that's different, I think between a nice guy and then someone who just says like, let's you do whatever you want. No, Yeah, And we communicate everything. That's a big thing with us. Like if we feel any way about anything, we tell each other and we're like this makes me uncomfortable or don't do this, or

like from the beginning. So I think that's what we just can like read each other's thoughts now, you know, and that so are you what do you and your brother working on? Wearing me on a podcast? Letting us come on your amazing iconic podcast. Yeah, we're I know everyone and their parents have a podcast, but we just want to be the next one that has a podcast. It's also for me, it's like really great family therapy

that I've never had that I always wanted. Um, we're all great, but like, he refuses to see a therapist, and I feel like there's a lot of deep rooted stuff in here, and I'm like, well, let's like let's talk about it on a podcast for the Okay, Well, hold on a second now that you just brought that up, because I'm a very I'm real big into the therapy world. Why why do you not want to see a therapist? I mean, I try it out. One guy you have

that's like, yeah, I've had like ten bad ones. Your sister is a just like when my therapist always says that you have to have those people that hold you accountable, but you need that one person that you have that you can go to and just yes, obviously you can tell Megan everything. She's your sister, but there are things that my brother's also my best friend. But there are certain things that I just I might I could maybe

get a different side. Yeah, like when when you have a problem with me, you don't want to like bring it to me first. You know, you could bring that to someone be like how can I approach Megan with this issue that I have with her? But I think I'm getting a little better with my issues. And I used to drink heavily. Yeah I really sobered up like three months ago, bottle everything up. So that's where I'm working on, working on that. And yeah, just I'm trying

to grow up. How old are you? Yeah, you're so cute? Are are you married? Emotionally we're like okay, okay, he had like one girlfriend in high school and then like never had anything, like really I had the classic like you know, six months and then it fizzles out. It's

you know, that's been my repeated process. But you know, now I'm trying to switch it up and look for something well, and I think that's you know, awesome that you're wanting to do this podcast then, because you'll probably be able to get awesome you know therapists on the show. But you know, just when you here's an I think I've realized that if you you attract what you are, so if you're in a healthy place, you're going to

attract someone healthy. So if you're if you start therapy now and you start working on yourself and obviously you know you stop drinking, that's an amazing first step, but to really go into it and see, like, okay, what are my childhood wounds? What? Like you know, why am I the way that I know I can playing? But like you start to really and then you're gonna attract someone that is going to be on that same level.

And that's the relationship that you're gonna want, and that's the woman we want to let any now, I feel like a big sister too right now. So I'm like, he's gonna learn so much in all these podcasts, and what scares you about it? I don't want to. I don't want to. Like the third episode was the sobriety episode is not out yet but it will be soon. And he literally like you could feel the room get thicker.

He got so hot, and like there's a moment where the lights got messed up and he had to fix say and he turned to me and he's like, I hate this. I hate this. I hate this, And I was like, this is good for you. I know it's uncomfortable but you're gonna feel so much better when it's out. And it was incredible because there was stuff that happened that we our entire family didn't know about and we're together every day, so it was a really it's it's it's great for us to to know, like, oh, he

needed to get sober. Yeah. I think doing it publicly it keeps me more accountable. You know, it's not like just for me now. Yeah, the marathon was like our friend's idea to keep him like have a goal and have something to do. Yeah, I could run away from all my demons. Yeah. Sure. And the only thing that I'll like that I'll say is just don't stay in your shame around it, because when you stay in your shame,

then that's because when you go out. And because my ex who was on the show, he came out saying he was a sex addict, but I think we're he struggled with it talking publicly about it was because he stayed in a shame. So then that's when you can find yourself relapsing and you can find yourself repeating patterns.

So it's you share your story, which you have and that's amazing, but don't allow yourself to stay in that place of shame that you are bad, that you aren't good enough, that you aren't worthy, because then you're gonna so look at it in a way like, look how many people I'm going to help? Look at how many people are going to like champion my journey? And then that way you'll feel better about talking about the situation because you're not being You're not filled with shame and

you're not doing the things. And I think because my husband was still acting out, so that's like why he stayed in his shame and was not being authentic to our listeners. So if you are authentic and you are doing the work, you will not have that shame. So just make sure you stay in that and be true to yourself. It's my only Oh my god, are so you single? Now? I'm in the dating realm, but I know, yeah, are you trying to set me up with your brother?

She's pretty woman? I mean, I'm like ten years older than you and I've got two kids, so would you? Uh um, what what is it called? The psychic told him he was gonna have a baby when he's thirty, So well, I mean, this is a clothes shop, but you know, you never know. Well, I'm just so freaking

happy for you. I think that's that's great. And now are you going to have other family members on two to kind of talk about more family dynamics or yeah, we have a fatherhood episode and my husband never really had a dad. Their dad left when he was like an infant, so he learned all his fathering from my dad. So it was really cool to talk to them about that.

And my my husband's working on being a dad and being like really a stay at home dad while I'm out working every day and he's just like the best at it. So, um, that was a fun episode. We'd have a fun episode about dating, especially dating on apps Nowaday Los Angeles. Um, and we interviewed our younger brother. He's twenty five and he just started dating because he's

just like shy and sweet and insecurity. I was like, I was on Riot for like a hot second, and I was like, here, I think it's still on Riya because I don't know if I really canceled it. But my younger brother has also never been on social media, Like that's how shy and like he is, so like him dating women on there, I'm like, that's not like you don't have to tell them everything, you know. It's

like a weird, a weird thing to learn. And then I interviewed my makeup artists who's like stunning ten out of ten, like still struggling to find her soul me out here in l A and she's like the games that these guys play to get into that do you ever feel how do I say this that people might want to hang around your brothers for the wrong reasons

because of who you are. That's that's the other spooky part of my younger brother, especially on the dating apps, like he has I let him use one picture of us as a family because he doesn't have a lot of pictures of himself. Um So I was like, you can use us in there, and they obviously like hit him up, like some of them have been like I'm a singer and I'm like next, Like like one day he had like they wanted to record in my studio

and I'm like style. But he doesn't see that as they're using him, and so it's like a weird place of having to educate him of like you don't understand like how psycho people can be online and you don't know who they are. And you have to be really protective. I think that's like another thing I feel like that you had to go through. Well, yeah, but I'm pretty good at picking up on those cues, and I'm very

easily to just like ghosts. But there's been moments like when he was drinking and partying, he would have like the party girls come over and they like filmed the whole backyard, but then they would never come back again. I go back again. Yeah, okay, So and then the podcast when does it come out? What's it called? It came out September and called working on It, Love It and it's Yeah. You can also you can hear it anywhere, and you can also watch the whole video of us

recording it on YouTube. Oh I love that temporary space studio is done. We're literally in his apartment and it looks jankie and like the green screen from Amazon, like but we're trying. No, it's great. I just got the sign hung just the other day, Like just the other day. My mom is like, when do I order it? No? That is so cute. Oh, Like my mom is like, I bought ten. I just love y'all's relationship. But just I'm gonna call my brother after this, because I just

it's like it's the best. I don't want them to live anywhere by my house. No, not at all. Um. Well, I I just appreciate you being vulnerable. I appreciate you guys sharing both of your stories and putting it out there because it's going to help a lot of people. And um, I know that my Wine Down listeners will definitely listen to y'all's podcast because you're going to keep

it authentic and you're going to share your life. So just I appreciate that because I know, Megan, you're in the spotlight, so that can be hard because people pick apart literally everything you say. And I just love that you're creating your own narrative and the truth and so I just I really look up to for doing that. And we're not going to stay in our shame. No girl, no, no, no, no, Well, thank you guys. So fran Frand I didn't get to hear you say anything, huh you'r Frand she didn't get

to say it's fine. I didn't ask how what else are you working on? What else are you working on? That's great? Also working on I want to do like a whole episode about nutrition and what I've learned about it and and acne in like everything. Yes, we have a website working on it, working on it pod dot com where you can submit questions and we'll dive in there where else can the listeners find you? TikTok working on But you have a you have a cooking show

that you're doing too, Oh my heart everywhere. I'm on a cookie show. I can't cook. It's funny. I host it Top to Family Style, There's Kids Peacock, and I'm I'm on a judge on Clash of the Cover Bands, where we literally judge cover bands and it's hilarious and iconic and these people pour their hearts and souls into their performances and I love it and I encourage everyone to watch it. Amazing. Okay, cool, alright, thank you guys. I appreciate you. Good luck at the marathon. You crushing Okay,

bye guys. Bye. I love her, She's so sweet, Like what about your friend? I love that little dynamic is adorable. Love them and I just love that he's going to like that he's sharing a story and they're talking about family had stuff, because hopefully that I'll get other people talking. Yeah, that's great. By the way, your advice to him wasn't really really great. Really you could just see like their response to it, you know, like it you could you

could see that it really impacted them. Well, I yeah, I will thank you because I kind of just blacked out when I was saying all that it was really good.

You should go back and listen, but it was you know, I just think back to when you know, my ex was on here, and it's like, if you're not being authentic, you're going to obviously stay in shame if you're still doing the things you're doing, and even if you're not still doing the things you're doing, there's no reason to stay in your shame because you're not a bad person, are growing and getting healthier. Right. But well, and he was an authentic so but hey, you learned from it

and you were able to pass on knowledge. But I'll take your break and move back. So Sprit Society, I have to tell you about these because we have these amazing Sprits cocktails at our wine Down I Heeart Radio Music Festival live pre show and they are so good. Spirit Society is a new line of canned sparkling Sprits cocktails with a base of a real wine and fused with natural fruit flavors with a touch of fescence. Available in four flavors, great Fruit, Lemonade, blood orange, and pineapple.

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She loved her energy. Do you think I was too hard on him with like the No, I think it was great. You could see in his eyes he was like huh, like you got him thinking, and she's like, yeah, you got him. I just don't want him to like carry the ship because I know what that does, you know, And I know that like if when you have that shame like and I think that's you know, I I wished, you know, my X didn't carry that because maybe he could have been more of an honest person without it.

So yeah, I mean that just like that makes me sad for oh so I just don't want I don't want anyone to carry shame. Just great advice. I need to take my own advice again. Not that I'm not that I'm carrying shame, but I just, you know, I just I always like it's like trying to prove that I'm like good enough, and it's like I I got to prove him good enough to anyone but myself. I know, like I know, I know, I know, I know. I just keep telling yourself that eventually you that just takes

takes some time. I got an email before we wrap out the show my husband. I have been trying to start a family for over a year now. I've been on infertility medication for a few months, but nothing has worked. So our obie is recommending injections as our next step, which also means going to a new doctor. Other than the consultation appointment. I've been going to appointments without my husband, which has been fine, but since we are about to see a new doctor and don't really know next steps,

I think he needs to be there with me. He, however, doesn't want to take off work and doesn't see a need to be there. I know he cares and is eager to start a family too, So should that be enough? Janna, As someone who has struggled with infertility, what are your thoughts? It would I'm a little bit more of a sensitive person. It would hurt my feelings that he wouldn't want to

be at the first appointment. I understand that, Like, there's a lot of appointments and like my ex didn't go to all of them with me, but like the first one, the important ones, I think are they should like because if not, your going to feel alone in it, and like maybe expressed that to him to be like, hey, I don't want to feel alone in this process. It would mean a lot to me if you came to this first one so that I I don't feel alone.

I actually agree, Yeah, it would actually hurt my feelings too. I think if it's definitely the first one, it's kind of like the first you know, I mean, you like first pregnancy when you are I'm pregnant or whatever. It's like you you're excited, you want them to be there. There's a lot of information I would feel the same way. But I think if you expressed that like you said and say something, that's when it's kind of even more important because you expressed that, like this means a lot

to me for you to come. And then if he still doesn't want to come, then you know, that's also hurtful, you know, but hopefully he would understand then that how important it was to you. Yeah, I mean, and yeah, hopefully he does, because that would that would that would

be hurtful. But I mean I understand not taking off work, but again, like this is he doesn't need to go to every appointment, like I never had my ex come to like all the appointments where it's just like the first and then like they were big ones and it's just like a couple of hours, right Yeah, So I mean, unless you just can't. I mean, maybe there's a reason he can't take off work, but it's he's pretty sure.

It says he didn't want to. You know what, No girl wants to inject their body with with you know, needles and stuff. So show the F up. On that note, have a great week. Show the f up this week. Okay, alright, Bye,

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