know they're not old now? Oh, they're recording. Now we're a go. Can we be honest now about this is our first moment as podcasters? Can I be honest about how nervous I've been like several days in a row and then waking up this morning? I'm literally shaking. Here's the conversation in my head the last couple of days. It goes like this, well, Woody, you know, how have you been? No, no, that sucks. That sucks. So Woody,
looking, nah, shit. Because you think it's going to be like still did like self-conscious because which in a way it is, but so far. The idea of doing a podcast together, it was kind of interesting at first, but I didn't know what that could mean or anything. And then we got together, we sat around a fire and talked and all of that. And one of the things you said was the reason why
I said yes is so we could hang out together. And that really is the truth. Wanting to hang out with each other because I know you from 30 years ago really well or as much as one does, you know, in that situation pretty pretty well. But I don't know the 30 years since then really. I mean, we would touch bases once or twice a year and we'd hang out once a year or something. So I'm really
looking forward to that. And I'm really looking forward to meeting your friends, you know, the people you've worked with because you have been very prolific and it'll be fun to meet them because I don't know most of them. And I want to introduce you to my friends that I've worked with. It's prolific, euphemism for Horish. Oh, no. Welcome to where everybody knows your name with me Ted
Danson and Woody Harrelson. Sometimes. Okay, here we go. As you heard earlier, not only are we going to catch up on life since cheers, who we're also introducing each other to the friends that we've made since then, like the title says, this podcast is a place to be known. Anyway, what is going to be popping in and out of this show when he isn't in some far off land doing a play or meditating or milking a note? And I don't mean goat. I mean oat. So sometimes it'll be both of us interviewing our
guests and other times it'll be me. This week, I have Woody with me and we're talking to one of the funniest people alive. Will Arnet. But let me set this up before we start here. Woody was showing me right before Will came one of his favorite scenes from the Fox sitcom arrest the development, which Will stars in as the blue families magician son Job. And Woody was going absolutely what you'll see this, but absolutely crazy over the scene from season four, where a job proposes to his girlfriend.
And that's why you hear us talking about this at the start. Will is such a lovely guy and we were able to get into so much cool stuff. His Canadian origins, how he works from a place of mischief, which is weird to me. I work from shame, but anyway, and even his love of cheers. So without further ado, here's a guy Woody and I both love meat. Will Arnet. This is really trippy and I'll tell you why that I'm here. First of all, we don't know each other,
but I obviously like the rest of America feel like I know you well. Woody and I have known each other for a number of years. Not super well, but well enough that he, and as you know, Woody's one of those guys as soon as you see him walk in the room, you feel better. Yes, right? It's true. Thank you. And I watch you guys watching the rest of the development in here when I was out there. Yes. Yeah. And Ted, what you don't know is he was I saw that he was watching
the scene. My favorite, which is what he's favorite scene. I know because he's told me and we were once in the in the South of France and Woody, he reenacted the scene to me at BanoSaus. That's a true story. Yeah, that's true. To the point that Bano was like mad that we weren't coming to the table. Do you know? He's like, guys, come on, you can do it at the table. True story. But that's the favorite thing, dude. I just love. I think it's one of the greatest
moments in the history of television. Well, it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Was that one thing, by the way, do you think? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I think I told you it was one of the worst days of my life. Yeah. Like you were having some real struggle. I was having real struggle. I was in the middle of getting divorced. And I had one of those awful days. We shot that up in like Santa Clarita and on the way up there. I pulled my car to the side of the road because I was
crying so hard. True story. And I was like, I was like, I can't do this. How the fuck, how can I go and do this? Right. And then I got there in Mitch Herwoods who created and rode Rust of Elm. It's a brilliant guy. I got there. And he's just such a sweetheart of a guy. He was like, yeah, you're going to be okay, man. Let's just let's just get there. You know, first of all, he's also like, yeah, we got to get there on the clock. We got to get the day, right guy? And then that scene ended
up happening. It could have gone better. There was a good deal in improv in the show or because you did a lot of improvising in that scene. I mean, you're like, you're just the thing of like, yeah, what what oh, here he goes. The, the, the, the, I know what Bono was like. These, these questions, what is it? What should should should should should should should they should the guy was such a, oh, here he comes what he says.
I've done it a million times in front of people who are like, what the fuck is this guy doing? Like, even if they've watched it, they don't remember and it's out of contact. They're like, come on, man. You know, that scene was a combination of first of all, we had, and you guys have been there before where it had the benefit of such great writing. So I was the beneficiary of that all the time on that show. And that particular gag of Job, stuttering this should should should
had was a call back to a thing that he used to have from a few seasons before. So I get there to do that scene. The only thing that sort of occurred to me in the moment and that I that I improvised in the moment was the idea that I was wearing her house coat and she was wearing my shirt.
So I thought it was kind of funny if I started saying should should and I started making her the value of usually I came from a bit where I used to say in the old show in the earlier episode should the guy in the 45 should the should the guy in the 40 45 hundred dollars suit take it from the guy who hasn't made that much in a month and then I'm mad right and I'm pumping myself up. And I thought it'd be funny if she's wearing my shirt that I start pumping up her shirt and also
devaluing your frock that I'm wearing. Anyway, one of the great episodes of television ever. Well, so this is what I want. Thank you. I mean, I'm and also on behalf of matured. I'm lucky to have been a part of it. But I what I want to talk to you guys about and talk about great episodes of TV. I think you know what do you think I've told you that I'm maybe the world's sort of preeminent cheers fan of all time. Oh, thank God. Oh, thank God. Oh, fucking all time. I am. Thank you. I have
spent the last few months working on this on this thing. And I was like, I got to go back and rewatch as much cheers as I can because I was always such a fan. And I've been watching all these episodes for the last few months. Well, long before I knew I was going to be here with you guys. To prepare not to prepare, but because of something you're about to do. Yeah, because for me, it's the gold standard of television sitcoms. It's it was it. And I made my son watch this scene
last time by 12 years old. He was a funny kid able. And I said, come watch this scene because it is the perfect meeting of great writing, great directing and tremendous performance. And it was episode 25 season four, which is so crazy. At 25. You have a great memory. Go on. Well, I just saw last night. In fairness, there's so many great moments in it. You and and and Shelley Long to have this huge argument. And she's going to quit. She's had it. You're dating the the woman who's
the politician, right. And she's told you she's jealous. And she's told you to get rid of Diane. And Shelley Long goes and you guys are all standing there. And she'll and I've mentioned this scene to Jimmy before because I think to me. You guys go, you have this huge argument. She storms out of your office and you're at the bar and you come out to the bar and and Shelley Long goes to the top. She goes to the door and Carla is standing just at one of the tables. But behind there's a
little divide. There's sort of like divide. Coat rack door. Right. Carla standing there real permanent. And Shelley Long gives this long winded sort of farewell to the troops. But low, I've tried my best and et cetera, et cetera. And so yet you shall never see Diane Chambers in cheers. Again, I bid you farewell and everybody's like, what and she walks out the door.
And then the door opens a little bit and her hand comes in. And she starts reaching for her coat at the coat rack and reaperlman grabs the coat rack and just pulls it a little bit. And she just, she's just said you'll never see me. And hand, hand, hand, and she falls into frame and reaperlman goes, Hey, look, everybody, it's Diane. Odds are pretty good. That was Jimmy's bits too. Jimmy is the best at physical bits.
So good at physical bits, but but also you have to have people who are willing and able to do it. Yeah. And so much of the time, everybody in that cast just delivered. I can't believe it. I watched that and I just I marvel at it. I think like that to me feels perfect. Like when you hear a song that has that perfect melody and you're like, and it gets you in a place of like really satisfies you, watching cheers really satisfies me. I go, yep, the rhythm is perfect. The thing,
the delivery is perfect of the line. Just all of it. Even the set was great. The set was amazing. We got to do theater. We could everyone was alive. Everyone was on camera in the background or in front or whatever. Incredible. And even if you had to go to the back thing and you had to go to your office, you had all those pieces and it was all right there. And it's all lit. And it's
all lit. And you came in what season four? Yeah. At the start of season four, which I just rewatched that episode of your first episode, it's after losing kind of the heart and soul Nick Colossano who died and he was the heart and soul of of cheers and and in walks Woody and in five seconds has captured everybody's heart. It was really amazing. It really is. Yeah. Woody, that's nice for you to say. It's true. I imagine it. You seem to you keep winking at me now.
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in order to, because I've heard everything. Wow. Wow. I love it. You got the goal. The tip top of the tip top. Oh, so great, man. It's so funny. And also great interviewers, you know, like you really do great interviews, even though supposedly two of you don't know the guy coming. We legit don't we legit don't. Sure. I'm just, hey, look,
you got to stay with that narrative. I will tell you this morning, we had it. I did one this morning and I was worried that I logged on too early and I thought I actually thought I don't want to see the person because I like this surprise. Yeah. And then I don't feel, you know, when you don't know who it is, you don't feel compelled to do anything. Yeah. Other than just be in the moment and have a conversation. What do you think we should be focusing on as new
podcasters? If you had any advice. Seriously? Because we're nobody would ask me for advice. I'm writing this down. It's going to be short. You know, when we started doing it, we just wanted to talk to each other and have fun. And that was kind of really it just to kind of screw around. And we couldn't believe that people wanted to hear that. And I think one of the things that made
it maybe work was the fact that we are just very open about what's going on in our lives. And if you do that and you're not putting on a persona, you know, whether that's good, bad, or, you know, indifferent, it's it works. And so you have moments all of us and also you need to have really good editor. Right. Who calls you and says, Hey, last week you said bubble blah. Are you sure? I'm like, yeah, yeah, don't cut that cut that. Now you guys aren't in the room together.
All right. We're never in the room. We'll say that's where we're different. Yeah. I like the energy. It's nice. It is nice. It really is. Yeah. For us. I'm not saying we're better than you guys. I'm just saying we're in the room. It feels like you're saying you're better than us. Well, you're not in the room. It feels like it's a long way to say you're better.
The advantage that we have that you guys have is that you've known each other a long time. And that's why I think we both wanted to do this was because we knew each other so well for eight years that we were on the show together. But then 30 years have gone by and we'd see each other once or twice a year because of life and all of that. So I don't really know Woody. I know my heart and how much I love him, but I haven't really caught up with him. And so this is great. No.
What he means we haven't come. We know it. Let me be honest. Just just a real thin slice. Do you think you think what he's changed? This is one of those awkward moments. He's bound to have. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's bound to have. No doubt in a good way. Good, good, good way. Yeah. Thanks for that question. No, I mean, yeah, I like that honesty of the integrity. Yeah, sure. I don't have a ton of integrity, but it comes out every once in a while.
I just want to talk about cheers. I know you guys are going to be bummed out if I want to do this talk about cheers. I want to talk about you a little bit because I want to ask you about your mom who was supportive of you. You know, that's pretty rare. A lot of moms are going to be like, there's no way you're going in the show, but you're not going to be an actor. My parents were very,
I grew up fairly, I mean, Canadian, but fairly conservative-ish. You know, my dad for many years was a corporate lawyer and then he went into business for, you know, one of his clients. But my mom always, I think that she, she had done some theater in Toronto even when after she'd had kids, she had done some stuff kind of what you would be considered to be sort of off-broadway. And so when I showed an inclination for this and nothing else,
yeah. When it turned out I was good at nothing. Except for goofing off, I think that they were like, okay, great. Well, at least he's interested in this. Let's support him. And I got to give it, so credit, yeah, it's my mom and to my dad too, because this was really far away from what he did. Right. And he was, he was like at work at Moulson. He did at the end of his career. He was, yeah, he ran Moulson. He was like a corporate lawyer. He was a corporate lawyer and then he was
on the board of Moulson and then he ended up being, yeah, CEO of Moulson. So none of your family had any kind of, well, you said your mom, but no real, you didn't have an example in your family of, oh, this is about not really. I had my cousins. My mom's cousin and her husband were quite accomplished theater actors and television and film in Canada, Nancy Palk and her husband, Joe. And so they, I got to see a little bit of that and they were always at the Shakespeare Festival
and Shaw Festival up in, you know, in and around Toronto. And, you know, very accomplished actors. But, but in terms of sort of this kind of the major leagues show is, no, you know, I moved to New York in 1990 when I was 20. I didn't know a single person. And so it was, yeah, it was scary, you know, in a way. But I also was really excited about, about getting out into the world that you, I, I'd gone to college for half a year and I quit because I thought, I just, I saw people
going down the same route and I was like, I don't want to go and do that. I don't want to be a lawyer. I don't want to be an investment banker. I don't want, and a lot of people I knew had, have gone to do that. And by the way, that's what they enjoy. So that's great. And I remember my buddy, Jimmy Valely. I don't know if you know Jimmy. I quote him all the time. He's actually, you're talking about, is a writer. Yeah. Yeah. The great, super funny, great,
fun, Jim, Jim Valely, yeah, great friend of Bill Mars. Yeah, yeah. And he's mentioned her. It's writing a partner. He's genius. In genius guy. He said he said so many funny things to me over the years. I actually told a story about Jim Valely on Conan's podcast a couple of years ago that because he knows. But anyway, Jimmy said, yeah, yeah, I can always circles back to Conan, but go ahead. I know he does. Yeah. He's everywhere. He's watching us through these cameras. Yeah.
He said to me, he said, you know, there's a lot of people say, you know, you got nothing left to lose if you come from nothing and you try out and showbiz. And he was like, I think it's the opposite. You might as well. He's like, you, I get I'm not puffing myself up. But he was like, you had more of a path and a thing that you could have gone down. And you decided to take a, take a leap and do and try to do this. And I think that that's probably a lot scarier. And it was something to take
a chance. Yeah. But I'm just saying like, if you're going to left and set a right, I always think about how much your life changes just based on things that you might not even think were good at the time. Like you got kicked out of a boarding school for being a trouble maker, which brought you to the school where you got into theater. Right? Absolutely right. So you probably thought at the time you got kicked. Fuck. What? You might have been. Can you be more specific about the removal of that
from? I was asked not to return. And I know it seems like semantics, but it's really important to me. You know, it's funny. He said, all years later, they would include me in the alumni list. And I'm like, Oh, oh, now you love me. Oh, I'm not. Do our fun. Please. Yeah, I was just, you know, I was a pain. The ask it. I was a smart ass. And I was, you know, smoking buds and drinking beers and doing whatever and they didn't like that.
And high school. Yeah, yeah. It was Canada, man. Right. Right. You know, anything kind of goes. So I left there and I, yeah, I moved back to Toronto and I ended up getting into theater a little bit in Toronto and kind of understanding that there was a whole world out there. That was the beginning. And yeah, you never know. I've told the story a million times. I got cancer. I got fired off. I did a pilot at CBS in 2002. 12 years after moving to New York.
12 years out. And I had done a few pilots before that. I had done like four or five up to that point. And sort of pilots and indie films in New York that were kind of didn't really go anywhere. And but just, you know, grinding it out, grinding it out, broke, broke, broke, broke, broke. And I get this pilot and it gets picked up to series and I, they call me say, you're not going to pick up. You're not going to series with it. Oh, they're, they're, yeah, they're firing you and
they're, that role doesn't exist anymore and have a good one. And I was, I was so bummed out. And that was the summer of 2002. And Amy had been on SNL. That was just the tail end of her first year. And you guys were together and we were together in New York. And so I was like, you know what? I screwed. And so I started, and it's starting to do this plane. I was in rehearsal for this play with the new group. And I just thought, you know what? I'm just, I'm done. I'm never going to do
TV again. Boy, they're going to be really bummed that I'm not doing TV. And the world's going to be so upset. And I, and I got a call from the woman who is the same casting director from the pilot. She'd written me a letter when I got fired saying, I think they made a mistake. A Debar Rilski. I don't know if anybody remembers her amazing casting director and TV out here in, in LA. It's really sweet lady. And she wrote me this really nice handwritten notes. And I think that,
you know, don't take it too hard. I think you're a great kid and bubble or guy or whatever. And six months later, she calls my manager and she said, I'm casting this show. And I think that Will would be great for. And he said, you know, he's going to do this play. And I think that he doesn't, he's still so sort of butt hurt from last year. And I'd been on pilots that almost went. I'd been on shows that are canceled after two episodes. I'd been like, you know,
you're the guest of death. And just nonstop for years, for years. And I was like, I can't take it again, man. I just, you know, your nervous system gets to point. You just feel like never going to happen. And she said, please just have him read this thing. And I told the producer, CB Gray, and it was arrest development. Wow. And if I hadn't been fired going to your point, if I hadn't been fired that year before, I would have been available because that show ended up
being on the air for a few years. Right. I wanted to be available for the thing I was destined for me that I thought destined to do. What was that audition process like? What was you getting arrested development like again? I was like, yeah, all right. Yeah, I guess I'll go read for this. And in LA, I was in New York. So they faxed me. I got the pages faxed me. I didn't even have a full script and just like a character or a sort of a description, the summary of the plot.
I was like, okay, yeah, all right. And I remember I took this subway up to, to read. And I came home. That was like on a, let's say like on a Wednesday. My Thursday or Friday, they called and said, it was the same studio of the show that I've been canceled before. Not the same network. Yeah. That was CBS, but it was same studio is 20th. So I did know the people and I, it was the 30-year in a row. I would, I would go up for something in 20th. And they called and they said, yeah,
they want to bring you in. They want you to come to California and read for the studio at least and probably test for the network. And for people who don't know, you, what you do is, you guys know you sign a contract before you go in for your final network test. A five-year contract. So that if they like what you did, you, you can't hold them up. You can't hold them up. They can't go. We want you for the job. You go, great. Well, now I want
a million dollars in episode. They're like, no, you sign for whatever it is you negotiate before your final thing, which really messes with you when you're kind of a broke young actor because that you've signed a contract and you see the dollar amount, you're broken. You're like, that money is so close to me now. I mean, maybe going to get out of this apartment so soon. And so I flew out to LA and I remember I read and it was the Russo Brothers who've gone on to make
all the great Avengers movies and stuff. And it was the Russo's and Mitchell Woods and another actor. And there were a couple other actors reading for the part at that point. And then eventually when we went to network the next couple of days later on the Monday, it was me and I've told this before and I a guy who I have respect a lot and I think is amazing. Rain Wilson and Alan rock from from succession, right? Is it a little succession? I haven't watched that but I know
that he plays the brother on that. Oh, he's great. Yeah, he's great. So it's the three of us reading for that for that part of Job unrested. And I had a miserable cold. Another one of those things helped me keep out of my head because I was just so miserable. Yeah, that I couldn't. How long did you have to wait to find out? I went in red. Alan went in after me. I'd gone into like
washwater my face. I was feeling kind of terrible. And as they came out, Mitch came out and I've told again, I've told this before and I don't mean to belaborate or you know, cause him and he doesn't care. I'm sure. But Rain was still waiting and Mitch Herbert's came out and he goes, it's you got it. To like that to you to me. Oh, and I said cool. Rain is still hasn't gone in yet. He's right there.
The other guy I didn't know him at the time. Yeah, I knew him because he'd done six feet under and I thought he was cool. But anyway, but that was the first time he saw you in person. Mitch. Yeah, that weekend was the first time. And he was like, it was so funny. It was such a mean. I just immediately we just bonded, you know, and we're still close to this day. But it was when you've had that too. I'm sure you guys have it right here. Like you just meet and you have this thing and
you're like, we're speaking the same language. Yeah. Which is really cool, right? Yeah. For sure. I remember coming in to do that, you know, Teddy comes in. He's got like, yeah, like some, I don't know, Coke or something. But probably something fast food, you know, container you're like drinking out of it. You're just so right. I don't remember the cigarette, but I, but you were just so cool. And hey, how you doing? You know, and the ease with
which you could just pick up the script and just be fucking great. And I was in awe of you. I still am. And, uh, and then it, and then we were you doing that. You bought you buy them in all. I do buy it. It seemed very, it seemed very legit. It's funny. You mentioned Ted's ease because I watch, I watch not just the blocking in cheers, but I watched the body language and everybody, because and everybody's character is so well defined on cheers. That's so beautiful.
But I was talking really, really well written. Ted, you had so many different ways. First of all, you're a tall man and you're taller than everybody else in the cast. And you often had to be at the bar or against the bar. So you had different ways of leaning and getting low. So you're at the same angle. So you'd lean your ease with which you, you popped open the soda water was just phenomenal. You would do it in ways that I just watch them work. You know what I mean? Yeah.
Absolutely. He did that. He's sort of popped like, can you, can you start talking and blah, blah, blah. And then he'd lean and then he'd lean against the thing. But you know what made that easy for all of us to do is we were always on camera, always on that stage for an entire episode. Yeah. Rarely were you not active, right? Even if the scene didn't revolve around you. Because it's so so you lived on that stage. You really did. You really didn't make it your home.
And all about the ease with which you moved and everything. You looked like a great athlete, which I tell you was great acting. Yeah. I mean, that's nothing great. Is that true? As a kid. As a kid to come baseball time. It was no, no, no, no. We had Ted last time. You have to take him this time. He's not true. No, true. Basketball. I loved. I thought I was going to be a basketball player went to Stanford tried didn't try out. I walked to the court and
didn't even step on to the court and looked around and went, oh, shit. Okay. All right. All right. Plan B. Do we help you with something? Sure. No, no, I'm just making sure that all the that's that's so funny. It's kind of like it's like it's like Henry when you meet Henry Winclean. You're like the first time you're like, ah, here's the fonts. He's like, now what can I get you? What are you doing? You sit over here. Let me get you a chair. And you're like, Jesus,
I want to meet the fonts, man. You know, I mean, uh, he's sweet. He's the sweetest man I know. I think, yeah, God, there's so many things about that. I can't believe A to that you did move like an athlete so well. Jimmy Burrows helped me really by saying and it got me a lot of close-ups too. Just reach down and grab yourself periodically. And then that's and, you know, athletes for some reason touched themselves a lot. Did he really? He did say that. Yeah. Yeah. I see.
Uh, I heard a new set speaking of new, uh, thing last night. I got a term BDE. Have you guys heard of it? BDE. No big dick energy. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if you're able to say things like that. Big dick. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cool. I always say yes. I've heard of it. But I have a hands that he can make. I mean, he's a real camera over there. Go ahead, Rudy. I'm sorry. I interrupt him. I mean, he's a real leading. Yeah. No, he had the BDE for sure on that show.
And, uh, I have BSE. I'm trying to know big, big snuggle energy. Hey. The ladies work him. Yeah. Can I ask another silly acting question? Where do you, if you had to say, where do you work from? From what inside of you? I work from shame, basically. Is that true? For some, some strange reason I got a lot of shame and it, and it serves me well as far as energizing me. I'm kind of being funny, but not completely. There's something to that.
Where do you work from? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. I think I work from the same place that got me kicked out of boarding school, which is, uh, mischief. Yeah. Yeah. I find mischief to be really fun. And I don't, I'm not really blue in that way, but I, but I love, I like when there are constraints on me. It's funny. You say that about to illustrate thing. I like it even comedically. I like being in a
situation that you're not supposed to say something and seeing how far you can. I can't. Yeah. That's why I used to love being on talk shows. I used to love going on, on Conan all the time. You are a master on letter. It was, well, they, but it was fun because I know what that line is. And like, what is acceptable? And what can you infer before standards and practices? Cut your bit. I got, I now I want to get into it. What was it like being on the number one sitcom
in the world back in the 80s? Well, there was no social media. There was no TMZ bullshit. Was it just a fucking best? It was really fun. It was. Yeah. It was right? Yeah. Yeah. And really, yeah, it was rock and roll. You're allowed to say it. This is a safe space. Yeah. Well, he was quite tied up in a way. But yeah, it was rock and roll. Marriage. Oh, you were married. Okay. Kids. Yeah. Yeah. Been there. Sure. Still. You guys were on
cheers. Like one of the great companies of all time. Again, in a time where there were people weren't out to pull you down. Now the game is let's put people up there and let's see, let's get the snipers out and see who can take the best shot at it. Right. It wasn't like that back then. Right. Yeah. It's gotten very cynical. If it if it was there, if it were, then we didn't know about it. Yeah. Like we do now. Yeah. You know what? The saving graces we had
Jimmy Lesson Glenn. We had writing. We had cast members who were all really interesting. And everyone it was so whatever that if someone was an asshole for a week, they couldn't last being an asshole because everyone would turn and go, hey, knock it off. So we didn't. Well, I guess we did get high and mighty didn't wait a little bit. Well, you never did that I saw. I felt like I did. You know, that's the worst thing about fame. You know, it's great. Yeah.
It's fantastic. Everybody coming up. You're great, man. You're great. And as soon as you start believing it, yeah. Oh, there's the slippery slope. It's great when you're standing in line somewhere and they're like, hey, come on in. Right. Yeah. That's when it's great. And like you said, yeah, it's great. What's terrible about somebody saying, hey, man, I love you. I think that you're
the greatest. Like that's amazing. That's amazing. It was really good. But you're right. I always think about there are certain sort of comedians or comedic actors I think about who people go, what happened to that guy? And I always think that the moment that you think that you've got it all figured out is the moment you've lost it. And I always think that to myself. You've never, you've never got it. You're never going to have, because there is no it. It's a constantly,
right? The world and everything is constantly changing. And you've got to sort of stay open and and keep looking for new ways to tend. I think about this about what you've done all the time. Both you guys have gone from there from cheers. You've had no fewer than five hit television shows since then. Then I can think of you becker. Good place. You have damages. Damages. I forgot about damages. The one with the board to death. Board to death. I love that one. With Zach and,
yeah, this is great podcast. No, but it's true. And you made all those movies, you know, get all those curve episodes, not curve episodes. Made tons of movies in between. What do you made of million movies and limited series and comedies and dramas? And I get the sense that both you guys don't feel like you've got it figured out. So maybe you had a moment where you were thought you were a big shot, but I don't buy it. But it's a little bit of the actor's illness.
You never think you're good enough. You always feel a little bit like an imposter. You always don't think you're going to get another job. Yeah. I mean, I don't think that goes away. Let's keep some praise onto you. Oh, yeah. Before you heap the praise, can I ask you guys a question? Yeah. Do you ever have that thing when you're like in a room with a bunch of Hollywood types? Yeah. And you feel kind of like the. So my life, yeah, you don't feel like you belong.
Like you were just saying like totally. I used to imagine that I had a you walk into these parties and I felt like there was an a number on a piece of paper that stuck to my back. My, you know, ranking in Hollywood. Come on. And yes. And you sit there and you'd reach around and go fuck 1200 really? I'm the 1200. I know you never had that. Not really like I belong in this room. And I don't really do I belong. But these fucking people are the worst.
They're so untalented. I can't believe how lucky all these motherfuckers are. This person can barely read this person can barely speak. That's so healthy. I love this. Yeah. I own this room. I fucking kill it. No, you do have those things. I mean, I've gone through very again, I think that it's one of the benefits of getting older that I just
put less value on shit like that. And there was a time coming off for rest of the valumay. If I'm being totally honest where I thought that I was going to have where I had a lot of opportunity and I felt like I squandered it, which reminds me I got to fire my manager today. And I've had those moments where I was like I could have had this or I could have had that and I didn't. And I always remind myself that I'm on my path. The universe is always taking care of me.
Yeah. So whatever that's going to be and I don't know what is coming for me, but it's fucking great. And it is right around the corner. And you know, I know that because it always has been. So I just got a bank on that. It's the only thing that's kind of the only faith I really have. You and Dak Shepherd to me are both brilliant. So variety, I think plays a big part in who you are. Yeah. And it does with Dak's. I'm assuming you talk freely about it. And if not, I apologize.
No, no, I do. I do. And but what it gives you, besides your natural brilliant, funny, fast mind, you also have a humility and a curiosity about you that's really cool. But deep down a quitter. But thank you. Usually my I was lying tight for Woody. I knew he was going to be there. It's so true. It's so true. So lame. I know it is true. Well, I think you know, I've had my ass kicked a couple times in every different way. And yeah, I've talked about my
sobriety and I made this show. Flake was sort of about it and about my and I talked to openly about going back out again and all that kind of stuff. And life is complicated. It's not a straight line. I'm learning as I go. I'm half of the bag now. You know, be so good. I'm like, fuck, I think he's drinking. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. No wonder he felt so uncomfortable when Teddy brought up the sobriety. Yeah. I'm really sorry. I love sobriety. I love it. Maybe sometimes my confidence is
unwarranted. You know, like undeserved. But at the same time, I do really just think about like, you know, it's that stupid thing of like we're all just people. And so those people that we sort of put on that thing, we think of this and you go into a social situation. I'm like, I guarantee you they're thinking about the number ranking system worse than you are. Yeah. Always. Yeah. I bet Ted's a great ad in any social situation. Well, you would be you would think.
I compare. But he does start to fade into the just starts. If he gets a little high or you know, you start to just back off of the I literally the other day told Woody that I would join him for lunch. But you go ahead. I'll catch up with you, which is what I said every night at cheers at the end of cheers. I'll catch up. And I never did. I just went home home. And you literally thought I wasn't going to come to lunch. Yeah. I didn't think you were coming. Yeah.
Remember when you came in? I'm like, he actually came this the first time this has ever happened. Why? Because they were all going out after and getting drinks and having fun and you just went home. I just yeah. Maybe it maybe it's not shame that I work from it's fear. I work from fear. What it? But we hung a little while after the show. We played food spawn and have a drink and whatever. But then he went out then it'd be like, we're going to this place to like a bar. And he'd be like,
yeah, no, I'm coming. I'll see you. I guess I could claim I had two very young children that I had to wake up for. Yeah. That's just mature. Excuse. What are you still I remember used to be an Oh, hi guy. Yeah. Are you still an Oh, hi guy? Very much. Mary, what is your kids up there? She was married to Malcolm McDowell. They had their two kids Charlie and Lily and yeah, we've been and then Charlie is with the Lily and then Lily is with Charlie. Yeah. What happened?
Mary has two kids, Lily and Charlie. Lily got married to Charlie Walton. So it was Lily, Charlie, Charlie. And then Charlie McDowell met and married Lily Collins. So now it's Charlie and Lily, Charlie. Lily. Isn't that wild? Yeah. Wild. A lot of fun confusion. That's so great. You're from California, right? Kind of. Yeah. Born. But then Arizona. I have Google. Do you have Google. Do you take a few times? I always I always say to people when they say like, so what's your thing to go?
You haven't fucking Googled me motherfucker. Let me ask you this. Have you been a MDB me? This is truth. Yeah. Have you Googled yourself recently? No. And I have not. And that came up recently in somebody I have before, of course. And I've looked at my Wikipedia. We talked about this because the row we always talk about throws Wikipedia. And Kimmel has changed both the row and Krasinski's Wikipedia before. You can just go on and change it. Yeah. I think so. Like it
lasts for like an hour. I think he did it to throw. Forget what he did. I think he said that he was a crier. What are you ejaculated? And I'm just using medical terms now just so I won't get in trouble. And it lasted for like a couple hours or something. But long enough. What are you? Are you here now? You mean in the room? I mean, what are you doing and understand the question? You're always like you're here now. I mean out to eds here now. All right. Like are you in Hawaii?
You're in Hawaii a lot these days. You still doing that. Oh, I'm Texas and in Hawaii. Texas and Hawaii. Now you say Texas like you were born and raised in Texas. You're not. I was. I was born in Texas. No, I got to think because my character was from Indiana. Sure. I wasn't waiting. I did go to college, Hanover, the Harvard, the Midwest. Seriously. Where'd you grow up? Can you help me? I grew up in Texas and Ohio. Where in Texas? Midland. I was born and grew up in
Houston starting. I didn't know that. Yeah. No, it's fine. It doesn't matter. Everybody thinks I'm from Indiana or something. That's fine. I like what was the town that you were. Was it Hanover? This is a town that Woody's from in in jurors? Yeah. It's Hanover news. All the men. They had it called Poe Dunk or something. I said, can we call it Hanover because that's where I went to college? They were like, yeah, sure. They're like, what? Yeah, man. Whatever you want.
Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, KELL1. One of my favorite moments. One of my favorites. Woody. I love that too. Fucking great. I love that. Then I used to love the episode where you and coach go back to college. And he and it turned coach. Oh, when I went. Yeah. Yeah. Whoa. When those guys. Yeah. Yeah. When he memorized. He had this. Albania. Yeah. Yeah. You border on the Adriatic. Your land is
mostly mountainous and your chief export is chrome. I know that from the 80s. I remember that. That's amazing. That's incredible. So there must have been a lot of years where you didn't see each other. Were there or would you always stay? We'd like to see each other once a year, twice a year, or you know, at least every other year. You know, like sometimes you're just like he's doing his thing. I'm doing my thing. And you know, I'm not weird how you, you're someone who you
love you work with. You had the greatest time of your life, your family. And then suddenly now, it's like, I haven't seen you. What? Five years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How often does that happen? You've had that. Yeah. I've had that. It's weird. And I remember Krasinski. I remember when the office ended. He it was really a tough time for him because they were so they'd done it for eight years. Yeah. Whatever. And I remember watching him go through that in that way.
I've been I've like trying to how do you're with these people all the time in a very pressure pack situation. You know, you've got it. Everything you do is being consumed by everybody. Being watched by everybody. And that bonds you and it's great. And it's very emotional. And then it's over like you said. And then you're like, all right, see you later. Wait. Yeah. You know, your intention is to see them later. Yeah. Not much later. And then suddenly,
you know, you do a few projects. And it's like, oh, two years went by. Yeah. Life life happens. But I think that's why it's great that you guys are doing this in this part. Me too. That's why I think really why we are quite psyched. And I want to meet, you know, I'm really looking forward to it. Woody knew you. Yeah. So I was and I didn't. And so Woody gets the introduce me to you, you to me. And I really love that idea of meeting his friends and doing this. I was so excited
about coming here. I can't even tell you guys. I mean, really apart from having to drive East, you know, and I don't want to bring I don't want to play. I don't want to bring it up. You know, at least to the four or five. That's pretty rare. I mean, it's very rare for me. You guys, hey, driving, but I did drive here in a brand new GMC Sierra. Oh, I forgot GMC. I have to mention it. Of course, though, just if we have to keep that. Yeah. A great vehicle. It's a tremendous vehicle.
Uh huh. I like it. They have electric. Yeah. The new GMC, uh, all electric is coming out this year. Oh, but that's not what you're driving. Not yet. You're pushing out some fumes. Yeah, well, I'm just, you know, I'm just like, I'm just working stiff, man. You got to promote. I got to promote working. What is your yearly? I mean, what are you pulling down? Just curious. Well, your early income. Well, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, uh, let me just think.
Hey, let me just count the zeroes over time. I lost it. One of those. Come on. We're gonna sweet podcast money, man. You know, yeah, we don't know about that. We're gonna, he's gonna probably cone. He's gonna sack us. Yeah, after the year, I, are right before the end of the year because I, you, you don't make money the first year. That's what they told us. Yeah, I don't know if that's true. Did you make money the first year?
Yeah, moment one. What did they tell you? Wow, no, you're not getting fucking. In his Conan group. They're all together. These are Conan people by the way. No, I know. I mean, you don't want to say anything negative about how come they're saying wrap it up now? No, it's okay. You know, it's okay. The Conan people is, they, and I brought this up before, they all have such a tough time working for him. So they're fine. They're always going to be on
our side. Right. You might as well have it to work for Conan. Oh, no, he's mean. He's mean. He's rough. Rough. That dude is. Yeah. You're E.P. in a lot of shit. Yeah, man. I got my fingers and listen, everybody. Yeah, how do you do the pitch? What do you do? You go in there and you say you have to do this because and you give him one line. I walk in and I just go there. I look at these exact things and I go, look, here's the deal. Everybody's going to what they're becoming. That's one. Okay.
And that's their language. And they're like, okay, we're in. We're in. We like the guys who are suggesting that we're going to what are our beats. I know, you know, it's been, yeah, it's been fun kind of doing other stuff. And I do this legular stuff and we're producing all these. And then you're doing murderville, which I really love that you improvise it. Yeah. It's great. Murderville based on this English format murder and success.
Phil, we had a lot of luck in bringing that over to the great Tom Davis. Let us kind of bring it over here and try our hand at doing a version of it. What it is is a, we bring a guest on and they have no idea what's going to happen. And I play this cop Terry Seattle. We try to solve a murder every episode. It's crazy. We had Conan came and did it. We had, we had so many awesome people Marshawn Lynch, my buddy Marshawn and my daughter. And what is their job? Is their job to be straight
and try to figure it out? Yeah. And we go from set to set. We have it all pre-read. We have all the sets built on one stage. And we just take them through and they have no idea what's going to happen. And you mean you shoot it all in one? Well, the first take is the most important because that's the yeah. We'll do a second take. Sometimes we exits and entrances and stuff like that. Really is that first take in getting their first reaction. You find a clue. We walk in and we see a body that's
been like impaled or whatever. And you're like, what do you think's happening? What should we do? And they're like, I don't know. And you know, crazy shit happens. Do you keep them giggling laughing? Yeah. Oh, yeah. People break back up all the time. Yeah. It's a crazy show. Is there anything else you'd like to plug before you go? I mean, you know, this is never going to air. But would you like to plug?
This is not going to air. We didn't decide if we even do or I mean, Conan hadn't decided whether to access. There's no, there's nothing, nothing else for me to promote other than just, you know, kindness and generosity and spirit and open spirit. See, I took that to heart. He's laughing. But I ah, man, that's beautiful. Just so great. You're here. And I have such admiration for you. Do that mean? You know, a guy who got, you know, about 52 pilots canceled and kicked out of school.
You know, you're a guy who's definitely should be a loser by all intents and for a great paper, a loser in the just the bare bones of it on paper, the architecture of it. But then, boom, and ah, you just keep succeeding. You can't kill a weed. That's what I always attribute it to. You can't kill a weed. You are so kind and sweet to come here. Yeah, man. No, it's so great. And I know we opened with it. I'm such a fan of, and you know this. I'm such a fan of both you guys.
You can tell when the people are the, like I said before, when they're like, oh, we're speaking the same language and at least spiritually art. It not just sound too kind of out there. But I've always got that from you guys. And I've always admired you guys and really looked up to you guys as much older gentlemen. But I put all jokes aside of truly admired, admired what both of you guys have done for real. For a guy like me, super inspirational and aspirational too. So thank you.
I mean, thank you. I mean, thanks. Yeah. And vice versa, dude, I love what you're doing. And you've made me laugh as a. And I love flake too. Oh, thanks bro. Everything you do, you're amazing. And I really, you just, you just fill the screen. You light it up. The camera loves you. And you're just always fucking crushing it. And so thank you. And thank you for the funniest thing I've ever seen on television to this day. I still go crazy for that. And by the way, anytime you want to come to my
dispensary, the woods 82 71 Santa Monica Boulevard, you're welcome. I'd love to come by. She was well. And the sobriety. Yeah, it's really good. I'm going to bring my sponsor. You just sit there and bring your sponsor. You don't have CBD, right? You got CBD. By the way, if you get hotbox, that's not the same as in Bible. That's right. That's right. You get a pass. And CBD, CBD is okay. I'm not, I'm not like a holy roller when it comes to that stuff. CBD is okay. Let me ask you. Are you a hugger?
Yeah. You want to, are we going to hug? Let's hug it out. Let's hug it out. And also the next time I see you, I, I feel like I can hug you. You can always hug me. Are you kidding? There you go. Thanks so much to Will Arnett for being such an amazing guest and an even better person. I have to admit, I was a little nervous because he is so fast and so funny that I was a little intimidated when I thought about sitting down and talking to him. And I wasn't. And he wasn't.
It was a real treat. So thank you, Will. That's it for this week's show. Special thanks to Woody for being here. And thanks to our friends at Team Coco. If you like this episode, tell a friend or better yet, subscribe to this show wherever you get your podcasts. You can leave us a review on Apple podcasts if you're feeling generous and the key where there is generous. We will have more for you next time where everybody knows your name. See you.
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