In this special crossover episode of When We're Not Hustling and Hobby Whores, Jessie Sage speaks with Mia Walsch, an Australian leatherworker and former sex worker, about her journey into leather crafting during the extended lockdowns in Melbourne. The conversation explores Mia's transition from sex work to a creative outlet that became a side hustle, as she intricately crafts leather harnesses and other items, emphasizing the therapeutic benefits of working with her hands. They discuss the cha...
Mar 24, 2025•54 min•Season 2Ep. 12
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage speaks with Zalika U. Ibaorimi, PhD, about the complex intersections of race, gender, and sex work. They discuss how Blackness disrupts conventional categories of identity and the limitations of the term "sex worker" in encompassing the diverse experiences within the sex industry. The conversation delves into the historical and systemic dehumanization of marginalized bodies, particularly focusing on the concept of "no humans involved" as a ...
Mar 17, 2025•1 hr 8 min•Season 3Ep. 11
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, Jessie Sage speaks with Ruby about her extensive work with the Peers Victoria Resources Society, a nonprofit supporting sex workers in Victoria, BC. Ruby shares insights into the organization's history and services, such as night outreach and harm reduction programs. She discusses the challenges sex workers face, including legal issues under the Nordic model and societal stigma, and highlights efforts to reform Canadian sex work laws. Ruby also touches...
Mar 10, 2025•1 hr 3 min•Season 3Ep. 10
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling , Jessie Sage interviews Savannah, a UK-based full-service sex worker turned webcam model and contemporary artist. Savannah discusses her self-care guide for sex workers, emphasizing the importance of acknowledging sex workers as full people with complex lives beyond their jobs. She shares how art has helped her find a sense of home and belonging as an immigrant and how it aids in processing her experiences of survival and stigma. Savannah's work includ...
Mar 03, 2025•1 hr•Season 2Ep. 9
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage and guest Katarina "The Domme Kat" Pierce delve into her journey from TV production and journalism to becoming a co-founder of the Sex Work Survival Guide, a nonprofit providing crucial resources and education to sex workers. The conversation covers the challenges and stigmas within the sex industry, the importance of safety and community, and the unique blend of creativity and empowerment found in wrestling and BDSM. Katarina highligh...
Feb 24, 2025•1 hr 4 min•Season 3Ep. 8
In this episode of the When We're Not Hustling podcast, host Jessie Sage welcomes Ms. Faith Rae, a Canadian sex worker and multidisciplinary artist. The conversation explores Faith's life outside her work persona, delving into her passions for sustainability and art. Faith shares her unique craft of creating art with ethically sourced animal bones, a practice that connects her with nature and offers a sense of healing and honoring life cycles. Her dedication to sustainability extends to her life...
Feb 17, 2025•54 min•Season 3Ep. 7
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling , host Jessie Sage sits down with Steph Sia, a multidisciplinary artist and content creator from Vancouver, to discuss her diverse experiences in the adult industry. As a stripper, podcaster, and online content creator, Sia shares insights into balancing work and personal life while navigating the challenges and misconceptions surrounding sex work. The conversation also explores her unique YouTube channel, Sia Slurps , where she reviews instant noodles,...
Feb 10, 2025•1 hr 7 min•Season 2Ep. 6
In S3 E5 of When We're Not Hustling , Jessie Sage sits down with Jet Setting Jasmine, an award-winning adult film director, psychotherapist, and master fetish trainer, to discuss perimenopause, evolving identities, and the challenges of navigating life, family, and sex work with autonomy and care. They explore the impact of bodily changes, the importance of boundary-setting, and Jasmine's unique approach to parenting and education through travel. This episode offers a candid look at embracing ne...
Feb 03, 2025•1 hr 4 min•Season 2Ep. 5
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling , host Jessie Sage sits down with Suzanna Weiss, a sexologist and author of Subjectified: Becoming a Sexual Subject . Weiss shares her journey toward sexual empowerment, beginning with overcoming an eating disorder tied to societal objectification and evolving through experiences like sex parties and sex writing. Her book challenges traditional narratives around women's sexuality, urging women to reclaim agency and become active participants in their ow...
Jan 27, 2025•58 min•Season 3Ep. 4
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling , Jessie Sage sits down with long-time friend Xanthe Rhea to discuss her journey from stripping to full-service sex work. Xanthe shares insights into the financial pressures dancers face, including the challenges of "pay-to-work" club systems, and how these experiences shaped her transition within the industry. Beyond sex work, the conversation explores Xanthe's passion for urban farming, her background in herbalism, and her commitment to holistic healt...
Jan 20, 2025•1 hr 6 min•Season 3Ep. 3
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling , host Jessie Sage talks with Delphine, a full-service sex worker from the San Francisco Bay Area, about polyamory, non-monogamy, and balancing work with personal life. Delphine, who identifies as solo poly, shares how her approach to relationships emphasizes autonomy, personal growth, and creative expression. The conversation explores the challenges of dating as a sex worker, navigating societal expectations, and maintaining non-hierarchical dynamics i...
Jan 13, 2025•59 min•Season 3Ep. 2
In this conversation, Jessie Sage interviews Jack Parker , a writer and sex worker, about his experiences and the creation of the anthology Working Guys: A Transmasculine Sex Worker Anthology , which features stories from transmasculine sex workers. They discuss the diverse experiences within sex work, the importance of representation, and the impact of the anthology on the community. In this Episode: 00:03: Introduction to When We're Not Hustling Podcast 01:27: Exploring Lives of Sex Workers Be...
Jan 06, 2025•1 hr 6 min•Season 3Ep. 1
In this special roundtable episode wrapping up Season 2 of When We're Not Hustling , host Jessie Sage, producer Emily Foster, and guests Aviva Ruse, Amber Délice, and Madeleine Blair dive into the complexities of the mind. They discuss the connection between the brain, emotions, and personal experiences, exploring how the mind processes thoughts and feelings while balancing mental and physical experiences. The conversation touches on the challenges and pleasures of living in one's mind and the i...
Dec 09, 2024•1 hr 23 min•Season 2Ep. 23
In the Season 2 finale of When We're Not Hustling , Jessie Sage, Emery Fields, and Emily Foster come together for an Afterparty episode to reflect on Olivia Snow's interview. They discuss her insights on surveillance and sex work, the challenges of balancing personal and professional identities, and the complexities of the industry. The conversation also explores the idea of sex work as a queer identity and the need for solidarity across the community. Wrapping up the season, the hosts share ref...
Dec 04, 2024•46 min•Season 2Ep. 22
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling , Jessie Sage interviews Olivia Snow, a writer, professor, and dominatrix, to discuss the intersections of academia, labor rights, and the surveillance of sex workers. Olivia shares insights from her research on algorithmic surveillance and how technology, particularly smartphones, profiles sex workers. The conversation delves into themes of class, labor, and societal perceptions of sex work, weaving in elements from Olivia's dissertation on cannibalism...
Dec 02, 2024•1 hr 6 min•Season 2Ep. 22
In this episode of *When We're Not Hustling After Party*, Jessie Sage, Emery Fields, and Emily Foster discuss the appeal of van life and the challenges of minimal living. Emery shares his dream of a U.S. road trip and a simplified lifestyle, while Jessie reflects on her own experiences with van living, including the difficulties of maintaining cleanliness in small spaces. They explore the emotional significance of housing security, the comforts of home ownership, and the dynamics of solo versus ...
Nov 27, 2024•46 min•Season 2Ep. 21
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling , Jessie Sage welcomes Sinn Sage, a longtime content creator and AVN Hall of Famer. Sinn shares her unique journey in the sex industry, from her early days as a stripper to producing indie porn and collaborating with her husband. The conversation explores her adventurous lifestyle, including living in a van, and her experiences with psychedelic medicine as a tool for personal growth and consciousness expansion. The episode highlights Sinn's multifaceted...
Nov 25, 2024•1 hr 13 min•Season 2Ep. 21
In this When We're Not Hustling After Party episode, hosts Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Emery Fields discuss Josie Oakley's episode, highlighting her dedication to organizing safe, inclusive sex-positive events and her activism with SWOP Pittsburgh. They explore how Josie's work extends beyond event planning, advocating for reduced penalties for prostitution to make sex work safer and more accessible. The hosts examine the social dynamics and thoughtful guest curation that go into Josie's even...
Nov 20, 2024•34 min•Season 2Ep. 20
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling, host Jessie Sage sits down with Josie Oakley, a Pittsburgh-based escort and advocate. Josie discusses her personal journey and her efforts to create safer, more inclusive spaces, including organizing "No Boys Allowed" sex parties. These events prioritize safety, consent, and community, providing a much-needed refuge from the presence of cis men. Josie also highlights her advocacy with SWOP Pittsburgh, where she is working to change local laws to reduce...
Nov 18, 2024•50 min•Season 2Ep. 20
In a special live episode, When We're Not Husting collaborates with Stay Gold Books , Working Girls Press , and SWOP Pittsburgh to celebrate the launch of Working Girls Press's debut anthology, The Holy Hour: An Anthology of Sex, Work, Magic, and the Divine . The event features impactful readings from the anthology, alongside discussions on the intersections of sex work, spirituality, and identity. Emily Foster leads panel discussions that dive into themes of integrity, emotional labor, and boun...
Nov 11, 2024•2 hr 43 min•Season 2Ep. 19
In this episode of When We're Not Hustling: The Afterparty , hosts Jesse Sage, Emily Foster, and guest host Emery Fields discuss the concept of "bedrotting," inspired by a recent episode featuring Lana Hart—a New York City-based stripper, writer, sex worker, and stand-up comic. In her article for the Tryst Blog titled "Hobby Whores," Lana describes "bedrotting" as the intentional act of lying in bed to relax and recharge. The hosts emphasize the importance of viewing downtime as an active and va...
Nov 06, 2024•36 min•Season 2Ep. 18
In this special crossover episode with Tryst blog's "Hobby Whores" column, host Jessie Sage sits down with Lana Hart, a sex worker, comedian, and writer, to explore the concept of "bed rotting." Described as the act of lying in bed to recharge and care for oneself, bed rotting is framed as an essential form of self-care—especially for those in demanding professions like sex work. Together, Lana and Jessie discuss the mental and emotional demands of sex work, from the pressure of constant social ...
Nov 04, 2024•41 min•Season 2Ep. 18
In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," the hosts explore the themes of singlehood, societal expectations, and the importance of friendships through the lens of Gem DeMilo's story. Gem, who has chosen to remain intentionally single after past relationships, sheds light on the societal pressure to prioritize romantic relationships and how she values friendships instead. The discussion also delves into how societal norms often restrict men from forming intimate friendships a...
Oct 30, 2024•34 min•Season 2Ep. 17
Host Jessie Sage sits down with Gem DeMilo for a heartfelt discussion about redefining fulfillment beyond romantic partnerships. Gem opens up about her solo journeys to Mexico City and Iceland, sharing how travel has deepened her life's meaning and enriched her sense of self. Together, they explore the importance of close friendships, the unique joys of single life, and the ways society's expectations can often obscure personal happiness. Gem emphasizes that her connections with friends and her ...
Oct 28, 2024•58 min•Season 2Ep. 17
In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," the hosts discuss Kaytlin Bailey, a multifaceted individual who has significantly influenced the podcasting, sex work, and activist communities. Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Milk Glass delve into Kaytlin's extensive contributions, including her critical feedback shaping the show's messaging that sex work is legitimate work. They also highlight her historical insights and her juxtaposition of personal experiences, such as her father...
Oct 16, 2024•34 min•Season 2Ep. 16
Kaytlin Bailey discusses her show "Whore's Eye View," which combines comedy with a historical perspective on sex work, blending stand-up comedy with a real history lecture. She shares how her father's military background and her experiences as a sex worker influenced her writing, exploring themes of exploitation and violence across different professions. Through her show, Kaytlin aims to provide a nuanced understanding of sex work by juxtaposing it with other forms of labor and highlighting the ...
Oct 14, 2024•1 hr 5 min•Season 2Ep. 16
In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," the hosts, Jessie Sage, Emily Foster, and Melissa Milk, engage in a lively discussion about their personal experiences and reflections on the topics of spirituality, sexuality, and consciousness. They start by expressing their love for October and share some amusing anecdotes about Halloween costumes and quirky questions from clients. As the conversation progresses, they delve into deeper subjects, such as the importance of understan...
Oct 09, 2024•37 min•Season 2Ep. 15
Galen Grace, our S2 E15 podcast guest, shares this piece he wrote. We liked it so much, we decided to make it a bonus episode! Galen Grace was born in Wisconsin, grew up in Massachusetts, and presently resides in Pennsylvania, but he lives wherever he happens to be at that moment, feels at home everywhere in the universe, and steps through almost any door that opens to him. He's worked in academic and professional theatre, published a pair of award-winning novels, and performed sacred, healing t...
Oct 08, 2024•18 min•Season 2Ep. 15
In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling," Jessie Sage interviews Galen Grace, a Pittsburgh-based tantric massage therapist and writer who shares his profound spiritual journey and life experiences, including a near-death health crisis, spiritual awakenings through plant medicine, and the integration of his spiritual practice into everyday life. Galen's spoken word performance recounts his transformative trips to the desert Southwest and his endeavor to recover from significant personal losse...
Oct 07, 2024•1 hr 7 min•Season 2Ep. 15
In this episode of "When We're Not Hustling: The After-Party," hosts Jessie Sage and Emily Foster are joined by guest host Melodie KG for her final episode in September. The trio discusses their experiences with managing multiple public personas and the complications that arise from separating their professional and private lives. They delve into the challenges sex workers face when publishing under pseudonyms, sharing personal anecdotes about navigating privacy and safety concerns. The conversa...
Oct 02, 2024•19 min•Season 2Ep. 14
