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Wheel Talk

Ryan Durbin & Becca Otiswww.wheeltalkpotcast.com

Ryan Durbin (@rdceramics) & Becca Otis (@5linespottery) share their experiences as potters, makers, small business owners, and creatives. Becca is a full time studio potter, while Ryan is a full time website developer and part time potter. We'd love to share our ups and downs along the way as we build our skills as makers and small business owners in an honest, informal manner. We hope to bring you helpful tips we've learned over the years, learn from each other, and share expertise from a number of guests with you also. Please join us for some Wheel Talk!

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Episodes

#281 - Teaching, digital art & craftsmanship with Bryan Wilkerson

Ryan and Becca chat with Bryan Wilkerson, a professor of art and design, about his journey in teaching, digital art, and the Impostors Cup Show. They dive into the challenges of firing techniques, behind the scenes of the Impostors Cup Show, why he likes attending NCECA over the years, and how Bryan uses digital tools to refine his craft while staying rooted in craftsmanship. ----- Find more about Bryan’s business below----- Instagram - @bryanwilkerson , @impostorscup Website - https://www.bryan...

Dec 14, 20242 hr 19 minEp. 281

#280 - What we're thankful for in the ceramics community

In this episode, Ryan and Becca reflect on the many reasons they’re grateful for the ceramics community, from shared knowledge to the friendships formed through clay. They also tackle listener questions about navigating challenging show requirements and making tough choices when sourcing commercial clay bodies. Thanks for your continued contribution to the podcast! Listener Questions On this episode: - I have a show in December and I’m thinking of backing out because they want me to donate 50% o...

Dec 07, 20241 hr 47 minEp. 280

#279 - Worth it or not worth it

In this episode, Ryan and Becca discuss a range of tools, techniques, and business practices that have tried and whether they have been worth it or not worth it. These range from buying a pug mill to mixing your own glazes to selling at pop up events to taking on commission orders. Thanks to Caroline from @revisioniststudio for the topic idea! Listener Questions On this episode: - What is your favorite think to make, why? @ceramics_bymargaret Send us questions so we can answer anything you've be...

Nov 30, 20242 hr 15 minEp. 279

#278 - Hands-on tips for teaching short workshops

Ryan & Becca share advice about hosting your own 2 hour workshops. Becca has been hosting a number of these recently and has so much to share! Questions include: how much should I charge, what’s reasonable to complete in 2 hours, and how should I structure the class. They both have some good life updates to share as well. Enjoy! Resources #240 - Mobile studios What would you do if... you sent a new wholesaler your wholesale agreement and they declined to sign it? Listener Questions On this e...

Nov 23, 20241 hr 59 minEp. 278

#277 - How do you feel about preorders?

In this episode, Ryan and Becca answer a few listener questions before diving into the topic of preorders. Inspired by an Instagram story series from @themugmaiden , they discuss Ryan's experience as a customer of a preordered ceramic piece. They also explore the ins and outs of selling preorders, including tips for success and scenarios where offering preorders might not be the best option. Resources The Hatch House Bed & Breakfast Corning Museum of Glass - Corning, NY Listener Questions On...

Nov 16, 20242 hr 7 minEp. 277

#276 - Turning Ideas into Art: Steal Like an Artist with Taylor Swilley

Ryan and Becca return for the third chapter of the podcast book club, diving into Steal Like an Artist: 10 Things Nobody Told You About Being Creative by Austin Kleon. Joined once again by Taylor Swilley, they explore key takeaways and connect the book’s themes to their own lives and businesses. We'll announce our next book club selection later in the year with plans to release the episode in February 2025. A special thanks to Taylor for joining us again and for recording the ads in today’s epis...

Nov 09, 20241 hr 44 minEp. 276

#275 - Exploring Etsy HQ and brewing success at the Cincy Coffee Festival

In this episode, Ryan and Becca recap their time at the Cincinnati Coffee Festival, comparing sales, discussing what changed from last year, and exploring the new items Becca introduced. They also share highlights from Ryan’s recent trip to Brooklyn, New York, where he visited Etsy headquarters and attended the in-person Etsy Holiday Pop-Up event in NYC, while enjoying new tiki bars and stand-up comedy with Rachel. Listener Questions Send us questions so we can answer anything you've been thinki...

Nov 02, 20241 hr 31 minEp. 275

#274 - Big city, small business with Sarah Hussaini from Not Work Related

Ryan and Becca chat with Sarah Hussaini of Not Work Related about the challenges of growing her ceramics business in NYC. Sarah shares her journey of hiring and trusting others to maintain quality, balancing high overhead costs, and prioritizing sustainable growth. She also discusses how she evaluates large opportunities, using her Instagram as a portfolio that’s led to exciting collaborations. For those aspiring to go full-time, Sarah offers practical advice on navigating expenses, making smart...

Oct 26, 20242 hr 21 minEp. 274

#273 - Commissions, business startup tips, and Michiana Pottery Tour recap

In this episode, Ryan and Becca recap their time at the Michiana Pottery Tour before answer a few listener questions. Questions include handling commission inquiries and the best way to turn them down, business startup basics (registering a business name and setting up a bank account), and pricing for custom wholesale requests, like adding a stamped logo to mugs, and how to account for the extra work. We hope you enjoy! Resources Kohler Residency Program https://www.kohlercompany.com/social-impa...

Oct 19, 20241 hr 53 minEp. 273

#272 - Listener Q&A: Perfecting mystery boxes and kiln programs

In this episode, Ryan and Becca tackle a range of listener questions, offering valuable insights for potters with varied years of experience. They start by sharing their experience with mystery boxes—how many pieces to include, what types of pottery work well, and why they’re such a hit with customers. The discussion then shifts to kiln firing programs, where they weigh in on their preferred settings and how switching from default programs can elevate your work. A thoughtful question about the h...

Oct 12, 20241 hr 53 minEp. 272

#271 - Countdown to Pot Swap 2024: what’s new this year

Ryan & Becca are back with a special episode all about #PotSwap2024 , our 7th year hosting this global event! We’ve got some exciting changes this year, and we’re covering all the details in today’s episode. Registration opens on Sunday, October 13th at 12 pm EDT and costs $5. It’s first come, first serve, with 1,000 spots for USA/Canada participants and 200 for international participants , so be sure to set a reminder! (We’ve shared a reminder in our Instagram stories @potswapofficial ). If...

Oct 05, 20241 hr 18 minEp. 271

#270 - Creating monumental installation art with Jackie Head

In this episode, Ryan and Becca welcome Jackie Head, a ceramic artist based in Indianapolis, Indiana. Jackie shares insights from her journey through her BFA at Indiana University Bloomington and her MFA at Alfred University, as well as her experiences in ceramics residencies. Now a working artist, Jackie discusses her large-scale installation projects, including those involving over 600 identical tiles. They dive into the challenges of pricing such jobs, managing time, maintaining communication...

Sep 28, 20242 hr 23 minEp. 270

#269 - Workshops, sales, and solving glaze problems

In this episode, Ryan and Becca catch up on Ryan's recent shows and his soda-firing workshop, while Becca shares details about her upcoming workshop. They also dive into a discussion on this year's sales trends so far. Later, they shift focus to the topic of the day: Ryan's recent struggles with a couple of problematic glazes. They explore potential causes behind the issues, brainstorm solutions, and discuss the steps Ryan plans to take to resolve them. What would you do if... you're making a ba...

Sep 21, 20241 hr 30 minEp. 269

#268 - Blending military life and ceramics with Delvin Goode from D Goode Art

Ryan and Becca welcome Delvin Goode of D Goode Art to share his creative evolution while balancing a military career the past 20+ years. We discuss his experience getting an MFA from Fort Hays State University while still serving before getting into his process as well, from blending wheel-thrown and slipcasting to his evolving use of mixed media. Since retiring, he's elevated his experience as a Speedball Professional Artist to work directly for Speedball in a product marketing role. Del offers...

Sep 14, 20242 hr 29 minEp. 268

#267 - Embracing a Creative Life: Big Magic with Taylor Swilley

Ryan and Becca return for another chapter of the podcast book club, diving into Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear by Elizabeth Gilbert. They’re joined by Taylor Swilley—voice actor by day, potter by night, and cat snuggler in between. Together, they explore key takeaways from the book, discuss thought-provoking concepts, and highlight areas that didn’t quite resonate. Don't miss our next book recap on Steal Like an Artist: 10 Things Nobody Told You About Being Creative by Austin Kleon, comi...

Sep 07, 20242 hr 20 minEp. 267

#266 - Creating through health struggles with Aleatha Aiken-Sherrer from aleathabean (Pt 2)

Ryan and Becca are back to finish their chat with Aleatha Aiken-Sherrer. Aletha flips the interview a bit and starts asking the hosts questions as we get deeper into topics ranging from commission orders to developing a style to being prepared for a busy show schedule. Enjoy! ----- Find more about Aleatha's business below----- Instagram - @aleathabean Website - https://aleathabean.etsy.com/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/aleathabean/ Wheel Talk #147 - Shooting the breeze with Aleatha from a...

Aug 31, 20241 hr 38 minEp. 266

#265 - Creating through health struggles with Aleatha Aiken-Sherrer from aleathabean (Pt 1)

Ryan and Becca welcome back Aleatha Aiken-Sherrer from Aleathabean to chat on a range of topics. Aletha has some insights on using a cheap Amazon pottery wheel to sustain her business the past few years. We also get to hear more about how Aletha lives with Crohn's disease the past few years and how it impacts her business. Come back next week for the rest of our conversation. ----- Find more about Aleatha's business below----- Instagram - @aleathabean Website - https://aleathabean.etsy.com/ Face...

Aug 24, 20241 hr 24 minEp. 265

#264 - Spaghetti brain or box brain?

Ryan & Becca get into an interesting discussion sparked from a human psychology thought experiment Ryan had recently. We get into the weeds about the differences between those who are flexible focusers ("spaghetti brained") and priority focusers ("box brained"). The discussion ensues and provides some context to how both Ryan & Becca manage their businesses, relationships, and the world around them from this perspective. Enjoy! Listener Questions On this episode: - Wholesale question? Is...

Aug 17, 20242 hr 8 minEp. 264

#263 - Cohesion vs. creativity in your pottery

Ryan & Becca tackle a listener question today about the importance of having a cohesive style in pottery. Two Sisters Pottery includes a sibling duo creating work in varying styles today. We discuss the balance between creative freedom and branding, offering insights on how diverse styles can coexist within a single pottery business. Thanks for listening! Listener Questions On this episode: - I’ve been doing pottery for several years now, but just got into doing it full time and making large...

Aug 10, 20241 hr 49 minEp. 263

#262 - Lessons from The E-Myth Revisited

Ryan & Becca discuss some lessons learned after Ryan recently listened to some of The E-Myth Revisited by Michael Gerber. They specifically focus on the idea of the entrepreneur, the manager, and the technician and dive a little bit into franchising as the author explains as well. We share some insights related to our own businesses as we converse. We plan to have another book recap in our episode releasing Saturday, September 7th if you'd like to read "Big Magic: Creative Living Beyond Fear...

Aug 03, 20242 hr 10 minEp. 262

#261 - Virtual teaching milestones & new horizons with Tzipporah Schvarcz from Sipor Ceramics (Pt 2)

Ryan & Becca finish up our conversation with Tzipporah from Sipor Ceramics to hear more about packing for a big international move and a big project she's hosting this August. Tzipporah is bringing together 5 artists for Modern Clay: A Live Virtual Summit to help attendees learn a range of topics from wheel throwing, hand building, surface decoration, and small business development. We finish up by discussing where her and the family are moving and challenges that come with it for the small ...

Jul 27, 20241 hr 32 minEp. 261

#260 - Virtual teaching milestones & new horizons with Tzipporah Schvarcz from Sipor Ceramics (Pt 1)

Ryan & Becca welcome back Tzipporah from Sipor Ceramics to catch up on what's happening with her virtual workshops since we last talked. Virtual teaching was in it's very early stages the last time we talked in August of 2023 for Tzipporah and she's come a long way since. In the midst of balancing family life and the business, she's moving out of her home & studio with the family abroad. We also catch up on Ryan's recent vacation to Spain & Portugal before we go deeper with Tzipporah...

Jul 20, 20241 hr 45 minEp. 260

#259 - Q&A Part IX

Ryan & Becca are back after a long time since their last Q&A episode nearly a year ago. They answer many of your questions related to business, studio practice, and a few random ones. Thanks to everyone who continues to send us questions on Instagram and by email! Listener Questions Send us questions so we can answer anything you've been thinking about on a future episode. Send those through Instagram @wheeltalkpodcast or email us at wheeltalkpodcast@gmail.com . Sponsors L&L Kilns - ...

Jul 13, 20241 hr 47 minEp. 259

#258 - A new start for Bluebird Clay with Jordan Kloppe (Pt 2)

Ryan and Becca are back with Jordan Kloppe, owner of Bluebird Clay, for part two of our discussion. He shares more about new product development, manufacturing challenges, experiences at pottery conferences (Clay Con West & NCECA), fulfilling orders efficiently, building a small pug mill, and the future of Bluebird. Thanks to Jordan for chatting and the listeners for tuning in! ----- Find more about Bluebird below----- Instagram - @bluebird_clay Website - https://bluebirdclay.com/ Facebook -...

Jul 06, 20241 hr 24 minEp. 258

#257 - A new start for Bluebird Clay with Jordan Kloppe (Pt 1)

Ryan and Becca introduce listeners to Jordan Kloppe, new owner of Bluebird Clay. Bluebird is a name that’s been around our industry for decades and are most known for manufacturing pugmills, clay mixers, and Soldner pottery wheels. Jordan shares his outsider perspective as he recently purchased the business, brings it into a new era of manufacturing, and some speed bumps he’s encountered so far. Stick around for part two next week to finish our conversation. ----- Find more about Bluebird below-...

Jun 29, 20241 hr 23 minEp. 257

#256 - Moving out of a studio

Ryan & Becca come ready to chat all about what's involved in moving out of a studio, no matter the size. I think we can all agree, moving sucks! Both have experience in moving to larger and smaller studios over the years. With Becca's recent move, she's got a lot to say about selling equipment, tools, clay, etc so someone else can get a second life out them. We also aren't shy about recommending a dumpster. Best of luck if you're in a studio moving situation yourself and build habits of purg...

Jun 22, 20242 hr 25 minEp. 256

#255 - Adapting to uncertain times with Link Henderson from Kentucky Mudworks (Pt 2)

Ryan and Becca welcome back Link Henderson, the owner of Kentucky Mudworks and Dirty Girls Pottery Tools, for part two of our conversation from last week. They discuss switching to Shopify as a sales platform, running marketing campaigns/sales throughout the year, online and print resources for staying up-to-date on changes in our industry, and some fun questions to finish things up. Thanks for listening! ----- Find more about Link's businesses below----- Kentucky Mudworks Instagram - @kentuckym...

Jun 15, 20241 hr 20 minEp. 255

#254 - Adapting to uncertain times with Link Henderson from Kentucky Mudworks (Pt 1)

Ryan and Becca welcome back Link Henderson, the owner of Kentucky Mudworks and Dirty Girls Pottery Tools, for an in-depth conversation. They discuss the significant adjustments Link's businesses have made since their last chat 3 years ago, particularly in response to the uncertainty surrounding raw materials. Link also shares insights into their rigorous product testing process before shipping to customers. Plus, they delve into a slightly controversial topic that you'll definitely want to hear....

Jun 08, 20241 hr 32 minEp. 254

#253 - Becca's next challenge

Ryan & Becca are back to chat about Becca's next challenge as she's made her way back east for the summer. She's planning ahead for diving head first into online teaching in clay. It's not something too foreign for her, but she's been planning for months (maybe even years) to get to this point. There's a lot of unknowns still, but the plan is set in motion. Ryan also shares a bit about a new throwing challenge he's started the past few weeks. Listener Questions On this episode: - Hi Ryan and...

Jun 01, 20242 hr 8 minEp. 253

#252 - Making pottery for restaurants with Bethany Kramer from Bethany Rose Pottery

Ryan & Becca are happy to be joined by Bethany Kramer from Bethany Rose Pottery to answer all of our questions about working on orders with restaurants. Bethany has been working with various local and regional restaurants over nearly the last decade, finding success as she's grown. We're happy to get some answers regarding making orders in large quantities, hiring help, working with chefs/owners, adjusting forms over time, firing cone 10 gas reduction work, balancing family time, and shiftin...

May 25, 20241 hr 55 minEp. 252
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