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do not necessarily reflect the views of the whatever channel. With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. Please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation, starting with you. Go ahead. My name is Kay. I am 27, and I am from Indiana, and I do only bands. All right, welcome. My name is Paloma, I'm 20, and I literally live in Isla Vista. You go to UCSB? No, I just graduated CC. Are you going to transfer to UCSB? I will be doing that.
Eventually. Like in the fall? Can I have you scoot your microphone this way or scoot your chair that way? Sure. Taking a gap year, going to UCSB the following year. okay but you're gonna be living in ivy i live in ivy okay for the gap year for the gap year okay yeah all right what are you studying at uh what are you studying
I'm a psychology major, so I transferred with my psych. And that's what you'll be doing at UCSB? I'll be doing sociology. They don't have psychology. Sociology at UCSB. Okay. What about you? I am a student, and I... I am a courtesan at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch. My name is Lauren Roses, and I focus on tantra and hypnotherapy. Yeah. Oh, I am 31.
Okay, and now I had a question for you. You've been on the show a couple times. Yes. What, like four times, I think? And you're a courtesan. Yes. Have you, I'm just curious, have you... received from the that you can directly source coming from your appearances on the show yeah have you had clients yeah yes from the whatever podcast yeah yeah
They're very nice. How many? Oh, I mean, I can't count. That's how many. Can't count. You've been busy? I've been busy. We've sent you a lot of business. I've been very busy. But you know what? I will say this. You know, this audience comes seeking a specific service. Yes. They like Tantra. You got a lot of Tantrics in here. And a lot of couples. Couples? Yep. I got a lot of people that want to experiment with Tantra and couples. So that's, yeah, I could show you.
how many like what do you think like a hundred from the whatever yeah i mean at least yeah a hundred people a hundred viewers yeah i would think i would think so yeah like do they tell you they're like
I want to utilize your services. Yeah. Well, everything's private, but I mean, I would definitely. Yeah. Yeah. But, but everything like, you know, from, if I was to like block out the words and then have the message, whatever, like say how many people did it was definitely over a hundred. Absolutely.
more than 200 probably holy i mean it's been like a year wait so hold on a couple other questions so uh yeah so what's that thing called attorney client privilege attorney client oh yeah like hooker client What? I'm sorry, like, courtesan. courtesan courtesan client wait what is it what is hooker client privilege wait what's that well you said you can't oh well i just don't disclose anyone's name or anything but but but if you were to tell me like how many said the word whatever
that were specifically related to the podcast, I could pull up, like, I could count the word 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10. And so, wait, are you typically booking them? Like, they'll message you on Instagram? No, Ranch. Oh, through the Ranch. They'll hit up the Ranch, and they'll be like... Yeah. I saw Lauren on the whatever podcast. They like Tantra. You got a lot of tantrics in here. They're curious. That's what it is. They want Tantra. Oh, okay. And they like it. That's good to know. Yeah.
That's good to know. You got a lot of people that are interested. I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing. They're curious. They're curious. They're curious about their... Any virgins? Have you... Absolutely, yeah. You've got virgins? They're curious about their sexuality, yes. It's fun. Well, I mean, you know, you've been on the show a couple times. Yeah. You know, you're, you know, despite what you do, you're probably one of the nicest guests, most pleasant guests we've ever had.
I've been through the blender of life, so I think that probably helped a little bit. So if they are going to go to a prostitute... It's legal. If they are going to go to a courtesan, I mean... I kind of got to give you, do I give you the endorse? I don't know. Well, I definitely, well, you know, I don't endorse prostitution, but if they're going to do it, I feel like they're kind of like, they're going to probably.
I'm going to get in trouble for a second. They're going to have like a good experience, you know, because you seem like, you know, you're a professional. You're a consummate professional. I have to be able to give 100%. If I can't give 100%, then it's not worth it. It's not worth my time. If I'm tired, I reschedule, and then I give a special because I cannot be tired. when I'm having an intimate moment because then I'm thinking about myself. It's game day.
Yes. It's fucking game day. That's what they taught us in the retreats. They said, you have to be here. And I remember my coach, like, so one of my coaches, well, he's not a coach, but he's a, he was actually. You don't score. He is a tantric.
practitioner and he actually fought in afghanistan and went to the war and he recovered using tantra and he's very good but he always is like stay with me stay with me like you know he recovered from the war uh he had a lot of trauma and he recovered he he had a lot of through the war yeah no but he how did he through tantra well because tantra like through sex yes and and through intimacy like uh being present like tantra teaches
presence presence yeah a hundred percent or nothing or it's not worth it hundred percent or nothing all right yeah all right there you go what about you um my name is lillianne i'm 19 and my occupation I guess I'm a student and a music producer, but I guess that's also what I'm studying is music production. That's what you're studying? Best of both worlds, yeah. Where are you from? I grew up here in L.A.
Gustavo donated $69. A Yuda s toy in the basement. Cannot blink. It's dark. Send help. Pour favor. Yeah, Gustavo has been kidnapped. Uh-oh. He's still got 69 bucks. He should have called the police. Thank you, Gustavo. And you said you had a funeral this morning? I did. My really good friend passed away last year yesterday. So that's honestly why I was more than fashionably late was because I had a funeral this morning for my very good friend. May he rest in peace. I'm so sorry.
That's life. I don't know. He's in a better place now. That's how I like to think of it. He has people that care about him. It's definitely hard, but he definitely has people like me that care about him, obviously. This is somebody you grew up with? not grew up with i say um sorry he was a musician um so i i met him this year but he was he was a dope person he was he was awesome like he was just one of those people like where he walks into the room like like
It's like a light, you know, if that makes any sense whatsoever. But yeah, he was awesome. He was a great person. He was a great artist. He passed away yesterday? Yesterday. That's crazy. You're doing this. Props to you. Yeah. Seriously. That's why I was, like, fashioning. Dang. Wait. Hold on. Yeah. Wait. He passed away yesterday. And the funeral was today.
Is it normal for a funeral, the turnaround on a funeral to be that quick? I've had gone to a funeral that was like a two days turnaround time. That was kind of, I mean, I had the same thing kind of happen two weeks ago where I also knew someone who...
passed away or it was my friend's dad who passed away and they had the funeral a day after I think it has to do about the embalming some people don't believe in embalming and I think that's what it yeah yeah that's fair I mean yeah honestly I guess it's different for everyone but yeah And wait, he was a musician, you said? Yeah. Like famous musician or? He was well known. I wouldn't say like Michael Jackson, but he was known. And was it like a guy you were?
uh dating no i wasn't dating him he was just he was a good friend of mine like i i would just he would be at the studio and i would be at the studio and we were kind of like i guess in the same vicinity and that's kind of how we became friends too through mutual friends but
Yeah, I mean, I wasn't dating. He was just a good friend of mine. He was a dope person. Wait, are you sure he didn't, like, pass, you know, he didn't pass, like, a couple days ago and then you heard about yesterday or he passed yesterday? Yesterday. What time? I heard that something was wrong in the morning. Was he in the hospital or something? I'm not too sure on the details, but kind of.
I'm not quite sure, honestly. Was it like an OD? I honestly don't know, honestly. Because he was a young guy. I don't know if that's appropriate to ask. I don't even want to know the answer, honestly. I'm just curious. It's fair. I hope that he's in a better place, honestly. I don't even... I don't even know if I want to know because I feel like that would make it feel worse. How old was he? He was young. He was in his 20s. Okay. I've just never heard if...
I've never heard of somebody passing and then the funeral arrangements being made for the following day. As somebody who's been to funerals, I've never. I know. I haven't either until literally last week. Big Chungus on the right donated $69. Hypnotize Brian. Hypnotize Brian to work his big dumpy. Okay. What do you have spent? Well, it killed the virus. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. What about you? My name's Josie, or Josie with the work. I'm an artist.
Hustler, singer, songwriter, model. That's really what I do. Age? I'm 25. All right. And where are you from? I'm from Wisconsin actually, like super up north Wisconsin, but I live out here in LA. Like Milwaukee, Milwaukee Bucks, Green Bay, Packers. How long have you been in L.A.? I've been in L.A. for five years now. What about you? My name is Grace. I'm 18. I'm studying sociology at UCSB right now, and right now I'm working on campus as well.
All right. Sorry, you said you're studying what again? Sociology and minoring in psychology, which is why I was like, that's so cool. All right. What about you? My name's Allison. I'm 30 and I work for a technology company. 30. Tech company. Where are you from? Oh, I'm from Texas. Texas. Okay. I grew up in Wisconsin, though. Oh, really? Yeah, but I've been living in Texas. 45 minutes south of Milwaukee. Okay, like Racine or like Kenosha or something. McWanago. Shout out. All right. One second.
I'm Abigail, I'm 20, and I'm a leasing agent, and occasionally I coach boys gymnastics. You said 20, right? Yeah. Okay. All right. Welcome, everybody. Guys, Andrew Wilson will be joining us a little bit later on. Yo, TV Spectre, thank you for the gifted subs. Andrew Wilson will be joining us via call-in a little bit later on during the show. He had a couple things going on here.
Fear not, he will be joining us. So we're going to go around the table once more. What is everybody's current relationship status? So are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits? Relationship, married, polycule, sex, cult, whatever it may be. And, oh, yeah, so if you're single, how long have you been single? Wait, I'm sorry.
I'm going to pull a Larry David here. Was there really a funeral? Just if you're lying, just be honest. Like it's okay. Yeah. There's really a funeral? There's really a funeral. I won't be mad if there wasn't. It just seems a bit dubious.
No, I mean, I understand that. And I'm going to come off like a massive asshole if there was a funeral. It could have been as the religion. Some religions don't like embalming fluid. And I don't know which religion. Some cultures, they don't do embalming fluid. Was he sick or what?
You might just be a massive asshole, honestly. Could be. Could be. You're being... honest well it's pretty it it's rare but it does happen there's some people that that it's not how you die some people don't i honestly don't want to know honestly because i feel like that'd make it arguably worse i mean occasionally
Well, I don't know if someone does pass. Jamaican culture, they can't amputate. Like, well, that's why Bob Marley, he didn't want to amputate. So, I mean, I'm sure that there's embalming fluid. You have to be natural. Like, it depends on what culture it is. That is very true. Yeah. I think that's why, honestly, what happened. yeah two three weeks ago now that that affected me a lot too but like i don't know it's been like
It's just been a crazy three weeks for sure, but they had the funeral two days after, and I missed it because it was so soon, and I felt terrible. Yeah, they probably don't believe in embalming fluid. Yeah, it honestly depends. I don't know what religion they were, though. I don't know what religion he was. Look, the only reason...
I'm kind of questioning it. It may be totally valid. I could be wrong. I could be an asshole. The reason I'm questioning it. You are. Could be getting cremated. So the reason I'm questioning it is because you guys were scheduled to be here at 4 p.m. You guys were nearly two hours late. And then the fact that you found out like he passed yesterday. Yeah. As somebody who's been to funerals.
I've never, of the funerals I've gone to, I've been to like 10. It's never been the next day. That was my first next day funeral, too. I've been to, I think... four funerals through my life but it also wasn't a super formal funeral it was like people who cared about him they gathered and kind of like held like a ceremony like in the morning did the family reach out to you i didn't know his family wasn't
He lived out here alone. How did you get invited to the funeral? Mutual friends. It was like a friend funeral. It was mutual friends. Well, like, he didn't have family? There were no family there? I didn't know him well enough to question his... family pass but i knew him well enough to show up to his funeral the next day but i mean typically there's family that's gonna arrange a funeral
Some people don't have family. Some people don't have good relationships with their family. I'm not sure. Can I interrupt? Why is this something we're even trying to figure out? Because truth is important. That is very true. That is true. I mean, yeah, but it's also like a private situation. I don't really know why you're trying to pry into it. I do know her friend died. She was at a funeral this morning.
Definitely used to not knowing about that. Yeah. You don't know her. She's crying all night. I don't know why you're trying to, like... I had to drive so she could get ready in the car. This is really what happened. Like, I think that's weird. I think it's fair to ask questions under the circumstances. I mean, it's fair, but it's weird.
okay cool i'm just assuming there's no embalming food he could be cremated and that's what i'm assuming anyways we'll move on i'll accept it but uh i have a couple questions anyways relationship status so if you're single How long have you been single? What's your longest relationship and your current relationship status? Go ahead. I am currently in the best relationship I've ever been in, and we've been together almost two years, which is also my longest relationship. Okay, two years.
And it's not an open relationship, correct? No. Okay. You guys are monogamous, correct? Carolina girl 13 donated $69. You boys ever met a real country girl? Talking true blue. Out in the woods. Down home. Country? Come on. Let me fix you B. You'll love it. Sounds like a song. Let me fix you. I like that. I don't need to be fixed. I'm good. I'll stay how I am. Thank you, though. English is my second language. Yeah, what's the first? French. Ah. Are you from America?
I'm a citizen. Have you been to the Eiffel Tower early? Wow. That's really cool. Something in French. So, I mean, I was born in France, but then I moved. Hey, guys. Stop.
Born in France, but then I moved to the U.S. when I was five. That's really cool. We went to Eiffel Tower. Have you been to the gym, Morrison? What's up? Why are you laughing? Because I asked them to stop. I know. I just thought that was kind of funny. Because I asked them to stop? I don't know why. There's just a lot going on right now.
So we didn't have because everybody was so late. That was because of me. We didn't have time to do the pre-show. But so one of the things we typically tell people during the pre-show is no sidebar conversations. Unfortunately, because we're starting so late. Nick didn't have time to do the 10 to 15 minute pre-show that is requisite to make sure that we have a good production, a smooth show. One of the things, so she didn't know, she knew.
because she's been on the show before, is you don't have sidebar conversations while somebody else is talking. It's just a rule of, you got a bad attitude. I'm just explaining the rules to you. I don't need the attitude. I can take blame for that, though, everything that's happening right now. Yeah. Like this second. Yeah.
Why is it on me? Why is it on me? She's talking. Don't take the blame. Why don't you just repeat it? Wait, what's happening? I mean, when you're late, you're late. Okay, I didn't see. So, held the show up, man. Okay, your relationship status? Single and situationship. Longest relationship? Like a year and a half. Okay, so how long have you been single? I guess like 10 months. Carolina Guy 14 donated $69.
Sign me UPPP. Please be fit, though. Drop the Carolina Girl 13. Please be fit, though. Okay, cool. Thank you, Carolina Girl. Appreciate it. Thanks for your TTS. So wait, you're single slash situationship. You've been single for 10 months. So just a couple points of clarification here. So how long have you been in this situationship? I don't know, like six months or something. Six months? Yeah. Okay. And since you're single, are you entertaining other options? Maybe. Hold on.
Damn, bro, that's crazy. You crazy for that one. These women are brainless. Can you pass me that picture back there? Yo, bro-naissance, good to see you back in the chat, man. That first part's pretty crazy, bro. I don't endorse, I disavow the W. Patrice O'Neill. Rest in peace. Can I get some RIPs in the chat for Patrice O'Neill? Gone too soon. Here, you just hold him for a couple minutes, I guess. Okay. So what's your orientation straight by Ben? Bye.
So you date men and women? Yeah. Okay. And the situationship, is it with a man or a woman? A man. Okay. Given that you're in a situationship and you consider yourself single, are you dating other people? No. During the six-month period of time that you've been in this situationship, have you dated other people? No. Slept with other people? Yeah. Hookups? Yeah. So like one-time things?
Somewhere like one was a two-time thing. And so is it kind of, you've been seeing each other for six months, but it's open on both ends then? Like it's not exclusive, it's not monogamous. Yeah. Okay. And so, are you currently seeing, like, when I say seeing, like, are there other people that you're currently involved with, hooking up with? Okay. Do you want more from this situationship or are you happy as is? I honestly, like, do not know. Sorry. I honestly don't know.
Have you ever had a conversation about? Oh, yeah, multiple. Well, who initiated those conversations, him or you? Both of us. And so how would those conversations go? Just kind of like, what the fuck are we doing? I don't really know.
Do you want to date? No. Do you want to date? Yeah. Do you want to date? No. Do you want to date? Yeah. Wait, has this been like on again, off again? It's been just kind of like he wanted to date, I didn't. I wanted to date, he didn't. So on again, off again, just like. Wait, just so I have the order correct. He wanted to date, you didn't. Then you wanted to date, he didn't. So he was interested in like a title first? Yeah. And then you turned him down. Is that correct?
Yeah. Okay. Why did you turn them down? I don't know. I was just like freshly out of relationship. I was not mentally stable by any means. When you say fresh out of a relationship, so how long was that relationship? Like a year. A year, okay. So, I mean, how fresh, like, was he your rebound, kind of? I wouldn't really call him that. I think maybe at first, but then... Well, so how soon after your one-year relationship ending did you meet him? Two months. Two months. Okay.
And then you also said you were not in the mental place. What do you mean by that? Like I just like my relationship was super. Wait, hold on. We need you to like straight because you're ducking behind. Okay. That's good. Perfect. Perfect. Go ahead. You said your mental condition was not great? Yeah, I mean, the relationship was just super mentally abusive, and I just, like, already have dealt with mental health issues, so I just, like...
Felt like I wasn't really in a place. How did you mentally abuse him? Girl. You said, oh, you said it was mentally abusive. How did you abuse him? Well, I didn't. Oh, okay. That wasn't specified. How is he mentally... I would not like to elaborate on that. Plead the fifth. You don't need to give us specifics, but can you tell us... No. Well, can you define mentally abusive then?
No. You can look it up. Y'all can look it up. Y'all old enough. Well, I could look it up, but it might not correspond with your assessment of the meaning of that. Well... I think, you know, people can look up what mentally abusive is. There's a lot of manipulation that goes into that, different forms of it. That's all I'm really going to say. Was he physically abusive? I'm not going to speak on that. Were you physically abusive? No. Okay.
So in that case, it was not... What underscore, the underscore, waste underscore of underscore time donated $69? Just kick the girl in the green shirt. she clearly doesn't want to be there and is just going to be a burden to the show get rid of her so the people who want to be there have a better time so true we'll make it work
We'll make it work. It's all good. Lol Paladins donated $69. Love the show. Off to a good start. Calling out lies made the other woman uncomfortable because they know when other women are lying. She'd be a good wing woman for a cheater. Always trust your gut. Cheater? English. Y'all are cheaters. That's right. Oh, man. She said she was a hustler. Accountability. Accountability, you know? Accountability is kryptonite. So, okay. So, you were in a situation-ship for six months.
And so not currently, but previously you were like kind of seeing other people at the same time. But this guy has been like the most interested that of the other people that you've been in. Do you. I guess during that situationship or like any previous dating experience, like would you consider when you're seeing multiple people, did you have a roster? Oh yeah. Yeah.
What 20-year-old doesn't have a roster? Like, let's be real. We all got a roster. And that's the truth. When I was 20, I had a roster. 30 now, but I didn't. green shirt, is going troll and keep up a BTCH vibe, maybe Andrew will set her straight if she lasts that long.
Oh, look, she's good. She'll love it. Wait, you'll love it? Love it. No, she loves it. There you go. I feel like we're, like, all, like, chilling. Like, nothing's ever that deep. Is it the magnesium water? Yeah, I'm chilling. The magnesium has really got to me. I'm just kind of like, you're going to go, like, cry now.
I'm in my, I'm a little, I'm sassy. It's all good. Like she's a bit sassy. I'm a bit sassy. It's all good. I'm in my drizzle drizzle. You're sassy. I'm in my soft, soft guy era. So drizzle drizzle. You're soft guy. soft guy era drizzle drizzle uh so i'm a little sassy she's she's matching energy she's giving it back it's all good guys we're gonna have a good show don't even trip uh so anyways okay so you had a roster you said
Uh, what 20, 20 year old college girl doesn't have a roster. Um, that's a fair point. Uh, what's like, uh, like it. What's the biggest the roster's ever been? We talking? Because I feel like you got Riz. I feel like you got game. So I feel like you, right? And you date men and women too. Right? It's true, yeah. So that's like double the pool of people you got. Absolutely. Like that's... The Tinder pool is huge. Huge. Huge. Big. Okay. What's the biggest of the rosters?
I don't like know what you mean. Like three people, four people, five people. Oh, I just, guys, I just don't know. Like give us a range. It doesn't have to be an exact number. Maybe like 15 or something. 15. Like people I'm actually like considering.
Like, to, like, kick it with? Or, like, people I'm just, like... Yeah, I guess we gotta define... We'll define roster. For the panel, can you explain what the fabric of American culture is in modern society in your viewpoint and experience? I got something to say about that. Hold on. We'll get to that. I'm going to read that. I'll save it. I'll pull it back up in a bit. We need to get through the relationship stuff first, though.
I'll get that pulled up later. What the fabric of American culture is. Bro, this is a dating show. Okay, hold on. I'll have it. I can answer that one. Okay, so for a roster. Right. So how about like just people not necessarily hooking up with? So break it down two ways. Not people you're hooking up with, but people you have, you're like talking to.
like seriously talking to her or just like respond to them like uh your messaging like it could it could have been like you've been talking for a couple a couple days from a dating app what do you mean by talking though when i say like literally talking like having a conversation yeah like you're conversing oh i don't i do that with just like one person and then all the other hold on i meant literally talking
Yeah, no, I get what you're saying. No, you're thinking figuratively talking. What does that mean? So, we're talking with... indicate like some further degree yeah no I'm telling you it's usually just one person right but so I'm talking I'm talking about literally talking yes literally talking literally talking is talking right now no yeah I get what you're saying no but you said you had a roster of
15 people so yeah i mean i just snapchat them right but so you're literally talking to them no because we usually don't know i don't mean literally in person i mean literally just conversating whether it's Instagram, dating apps? Maybe twice. Twice at most. But you said your roster was 15. Well, I thought you meant roster by how many people I'm Snapchatting or how many people are into me type thing.
But I'm assuming if they're into you, you guys have conversated. No, a lot of them are very boring. No, but no, no, no. But okay. So. When you say they're into you, they must have expressed their interest in some way. Yeah. Via a communication. It's usually like Snapchat. Yeah, that's fine. I'd put that in your talking category. It's usually just like, okay, so I'm going to put it like this for you. I usually Snapchat without words.
What do you mean? Like just kind of like a face snap or like... You just send photos? Like you're at the beach or something. Literally. You'll just send a photo? Like you just do emojis or whatever? A photo. Maybe you have my cat. You know, it could be something. I don't know. The floor, even the wall. And do you put a caption? Sometimes I'm like, look at my cat. Sometimes I don't say anything. Okay.
yeah it's like uh um sure but you know and i don't really respond to them like until 15 hours after they respond to me that's like intentionally not intentionally i just like don't care to talk to them So that's usually around 10 people. So are you sending nudes to these guys? Absolutely, I am not. Do not get it twisted.
I'm not sending nudes. It's literally just like a picture of the wall or like of like my cat, which is a real cat before you want to twist that around too. But how did they get your Snapchat? From Tinder or from Instagram. I don't know. Well, do any of them, have you met them in person? I've met a couple in person. Usually when they're really weird, I unad them. When they're not, I just kind of keep snapping them. So in terms of, because you said you were in this situation, you've...
you're still in the situationship that you've been in for six months, but you would like be dating, sleeping with other people. So like at any given time, what's the most amount of people that you've been like hooking up with at the same time? Two. Have you ever done like two in a day? No. Like a 24-hour period? No. 72-hour period? No. A week? Yeah. Week. Okay, so a week.
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And is the guy who you're in a situationship, he's also a student? Mm-hmm. Is he staying here for the summer? No. Are you guys going to do long distance or is that a wrap then? I don't know. Wait, is he, because everybody just graduated? Mm-hmm. Did he graduate? No. Okay, so he's like a sophomore. He's my age. Okay, so like junior, going into his junior year or some shit? Yeah.
Okay. Something like that. Something like that. Okay. Is he in school? Mm-hmm. Okay. And so... You guys gonna... Is he dating other girls?
I mean, I don't know about dating, but definitely he's fucking other girls doesn't bother you at all depends on the girl What do you mean it just depends on what I'm like if she's does it bother you more if she's more or less attractive than you that doesn't have anything no bearing what then what would be the uh maybe if she's clean or not um i mean yeah that as well like if she's white
Like, is it a race thing? You know I'm white. No, that's fine, but maybe you, I don't know. That's the stupidest question I've ever been asked. Why is that the stupidest question? Because that's just stupid. It's 2024. I don't give a fuck if he fucks a white bitch or a black bitch or someone who's Asian. I literally do not give a fuck. Do you want him to be monogamous with you? do i want him to be what monogamous with you i have a question
Okay, question. I've got a question. So I sometimes, if a man that I'm interested in says he gets with an older woman, I start getting kind of feisty. I'm like, wait a second. Sometimes I'm like, he's gone with an older woman.
sometimes like i get kind of like it's like oh like that like i don't really experience like i guess would say jealousy like for looks or anything but i will say if someone like gets with someone that's older than me i'm like why do i got like some sort of like anger about it like i don't know like like i keep it to myself but say like what is that like she did get with an older woman i didn't really
care i honestly was more like dude like that's weird i feel like i can't compete with an older woman like i don't know like i just that's how i feel like
I don't know. It's interesting. I don't feel like the way I view, you know, like a man I'm involved with, getting with other women, it's not really like a competition in my head. Yeah. I don't really view it as like, oh, she's prettier than me. I don't know if it's about the older thing. Yeah, because the prettier never got me, but the older thing. 169 blah blah blah, 69 donated $69. Amargoed the mommy milkers, mommy milkers, mommy milkers. I must motorboat them teeters.
Wow. He is so real. All right. Thank you for that. I loved that comment personally. Okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. Okay. So what. I've never really. So what is the differentiating factor then? Just like the type of person they are. Like if you're going to get with somebody who's like. Hold on. Let her answer. Go ahead. Just like. Like a freak. Honestly. Wait. If the girl's a freak? Not. Okay. Here's the way I say it. I don't say freak as in the sexual way, just like a weirdo.
Like her outward appearance, her personality? No, it's never about appearance. You've got to get rid of that one. It's literally just about their personality. If they're just kind of strange, I don't know, just immature. Immature? I don't know. Like, I don't know how to explain it. Like, if you're just, like, a weirdo, like, I'm gonna kind of be like, why are you fucking with her? Like, but what?
Like, is he introducing you to these chicks? I was going to say, have you ever got caught? Oh, wait, is this like, do you guys, like, is it a threesome type thing? No. Because you're into girls, so maybe. Nope. But like.
If I was inclined... He's not introducing me to these girls, but we're open. It's been a friends with benefits for a while. If I was inclined to... keep a girl in this situationship for six months, or she wasn't interested, or, you know, if I was trying to fuck multiple different girls, it wouldn't occur to me to tell the main piece, like... Show her pictures of who I'm fucking tell her about the other girls. I'm fucking so I'm just confused how you've come to like So like you'll
Like, he'll be laying in bed with you after he fucked you and be like, here's Tiffany, what do you think? I mean, it won't be what do you think, but it'll be like, hey, I fucked this girl, you know, a while ago. So he'll tell you. I'll be like, oh, who is she? So he'll show you the IG or what? I mean, I usually ask. I'm curious, okay? I'm a nosy person. I'm a nosy person. I've got the question.
And I've got an answer. So, let's say you meet up to hang with him, and you guys haven't yet hooked up for the meetup. Me and who? You and the guy. Yeah, the situationship. Yeah, like you're meeting up and he, I don't know if this has occurred, but he reveals to you before you guys have sex, hey babe, this past weekend I fucked this chick, here she is. He doesn't call me that.
Okay. Pumpkin, whatever you want. So, here's, and then you make the determination. Ah, that's a goofy bitch. That's a goofy bitch. And then you... Do you choose to not fuck him after he reveals that he fucked a goofy bitch? I don't make the determination based off of their pictures. No, okay. Whatever. You said she's weird. You said that she's weird. I think you're taking it from a standpoint. She's not in a relationship.
So it's like they kind of just do whatever. We do what we want to do. It's better than, like, it's going to be honest. Like, when I said, like, I don't even know if she really. Yeah. But you said you feel a certain type of way. You get kind of twisted if he's like. I don't get twisted. Okay, whatever.
do you ever like hold on stop stop if she feels like it's a goofy bitch yeah she's like why are you like if I've met the girl but they're not together so she doesn't have a right to really even trip you know some of the chicks that he fucks maybe oh yeah I mean, if I know, like, the girl that he's fucking or he wants to fuck, and I think she's kind of like, like, I met her, like, personality-wise, I'm like, she's kind of strange, you know? Like, she's like, something's wrong.
I'm going to be like, that's weird. If you fuck her, we're not going to be fucking. Oh, okay. So if he did fuck her... Wait. But don't you only find out after the fact if he fucked her? Like he's telling you beforehand. Oh, excuse me. Is it okay if I fuck this chick?
weird like he'll ask you for the cosine like honestly yeah that's so much better than like not being like we're very much open like i'll let him know who i'm interested in i'll be like yo this guy texted me this like i don't know what do you think about it he'll be like this girl text me this. I'm kind of into her. And we kind of just go based off of that. Like, it's not like a super crazy situation.
i don't agree with stoning but the vibration bimbo is dumber than a bag of rocks question for the panel would you risk going to war on the front line or give up your right to vote who is the vibration bimbo yeah who is the vibration I'm not sure who the vibration bimbo is. I would like to know. Who let us know? Slide another 60. Let's find out. Before we come back to this, so his question is, would you risk going to war on the front line or give up your right to vote? Now, recently, I think...
It was this past couple days, the House of Representatives passed something where men between the ages, I believe it's 18 to 25, 18 to 26, are automatically registered for the Selective Service. it's pretty much hasn't changed anything you had to uh all men between the once they hit 18 they had to register for the selective service anyways but now they're just automatically registered
I don't know if it really changes much. I'm going to have to look into it. But it is kind of topical. So again, the question, would you risk going to war on the front line or give up your right to vote? I'm giving up my right to vote because I'm weak and I will die the minute I go on the front line. Don't say that. Okay, whatever. What about you? I would not last on the front line. So you'd give up your right to vote?
I would. Okay. So currently, because I'm in the embodied work and I'm disabled, I would say no. I guess I'd give up the right to vote. I'd have to. I would have to go with the front line. So keep your right to vote. Okay, what about you? I would probably be on the front line, too. I would if I wasn't. Wait, hold on. Before I have you answer, you two. Can you hold up your fingers like this to the camera? Okay, you got longer nails than her. Those nails are not...
They're gonna have to go. I'm also a violinist, so I have like mad precision. Wait, you're a violinist? Why didn't you bring your violin, bro? Is it in the car? I don't bring my violin. Yo, can we get a fucking violin? Nick, do we have a violin in studio? No.
Fuck. I mean, like, I would have brought it, but I just, like, both of y'all. Like, are you good, though? Yeah. Seriously. That was, like, my life. Violin was my life. Why don't you tell me this shit? I don't know. Like, I was really a nerd like that. Like, I don't know. But, okay, hold on. Guys, guys, guys. guys stop okay sorry yeah no sidebars I'm sorry about that I really do
Okay, so your nails, they're going to have to go. I mean, oh, like in general? Yeah, I don't think that's allowed. But I feel like Katana from Mortal Kombat. I don't think it's allowed in the military or whatever. That's fine. Give them my right to vote. Give up my right to vote. Oh, give up the right to vote. I'm giving up the right to vote. I want a family.
Okay. I want my kids to have a future. Yeah, for real. Exactly. I feel like if I have any daughters, I don't want them to be, you know, fighting for their rights. I would fight for the rights of my future children. You die in five minutes, though. So, like...
i actually was kind of worried i actually was i was kind of worried about the draft because my brother's 16. so you know i'm kind of worried about that i'd rather be with a man that's fair i don't want to be alive i could get counseling after being sexually assaulted. What the fuck? Oh, well, they don't know. Okay. So... We didn't get the rules read to us.
Okay. Well, she was saying something important. I was worried about the draft because my brother's 16 and he wants to be in the military. But I told him, I said, I'm going to train. He knows Muay Thai and he knows...
martial arts and i told him i said i want to pay for like the best trainer for you despite i don't know if you're going to go into it or not but i told him just yesterday i had that conversation and okay he's very mature so i'm i'm confident he's gonna do well yes i wouldn't be worried my my dad was in the military so he
So I got a question for you. So do you currently live in this area? Yeah. And you go to the Santa Barbara City College? Not anymore. Well, you graduated, but you're planning to, you're taking a gap year, then you're going to go to... University of California, Santa Barbara, is kind of the situation you find yourself in, where you've been in this situationship for six months.
you've had roster you've had periods where you're dating multiple people hooking up with multiple people doing the casual hookup thing would you say that's pretty common among like your friend group um I mean, some people in my friend group are in a relationship. Some people aren't. So, yeah. Well, maybe for the single people. Like, yeah. Yeah. Moving beyond friend group. Like if you had to kind of look into.
your peers so i guess people that are you know freshmen sophomore juniors in city college ucsb would you say it's more common than not to be in kind of your situationship as compared to like long-term monogamous boyfriend and you know dating I honestly I feel like it's half half and half out here like I've I know tons of people who are in situationships some people who are just single doing their own thing
And I know people who are in, like, super committed, like, going to move in together type of situations. So I think it's half and half. It just depends. Got it. Okay. And what about you? Your relationship status? I am single.
I'm single currently. I've been single for a while now. I'm a big supporter of single. Longest relationship? Longest relationship, I would say about like... maybe like two and a half almost three years all right three years yeah and but right now you're doing the courtesan thing i am so technically i had a question am i if i'm a relationship-based courtesan
real talk and i have repeat clients who i've seen for years technically am i in a relationship with everyone nope no okay okay i don't think so i mean if they're clients they're paying yeah they're paying so okay okay I'm not going to lie, I don't know what a courtesan is. Oh, she's a prostitute. Yes, yes. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's legal in Nevada. In Nevada, I work at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch. Oh, okay. Yeah, and it's legal. Do you want to give her a discount?
A discount? Oh no, you seem kind of interesting. I give a military discount. Do you do girls too? Oh yeah. I need you to stop. You were supposed to talk about that afterwards. I don't know. I literally just don't know what that means.
they have a moonlight bunny ranch and so it's a legal brothel in nevada and where people can go um it's completely legal there's porn stars that work there there's people that are just you know there's also dominatrixes that work there i'm just more like i do the tantra and embodiment but they have everybody there so it's a safe place there is
100% discreet, 100% everybody's in. It's, yeah, you just pay and you enjoy. That sounds like it. And it's safe. Okay. Got it. Yeah. Good times. What about you? Right now, I'm single. What was the next question? Oh, longest relationship in how long have you been single? Right. I've probably been single for about, like, I want to say... Eight months, nine months now. My longest relationship was a year and a half. Longest relationship. Alright.
And so you've been single for nine months. Was the relationship that ended nine months ago, was that the 1.5-year relationship? No, the 1.5-year relationship. It was in high school. So I think my junior to senior year of high school. And then... Yes, and then the next one was the most recent one. And why did your most recent thing end? Honestly...
We were both super busy all the time, like too busy to tend to each other's needs and see each other and shit like that. So I'd pretty much be working every single night and I go to school every single morning. So it was just like, I don't know, we just kind of grew apart. Okay. Nothing against him. He's a dope person. And so in that nine months that you've been single, what is the scope of any dating experiences you've had? Have you had like a short-term thing in that period?
I'd say kind of short term, I guess, but it wasn't even that serious. Couple short term or just a short term? Oh, a short term. Okay. Have you ever had a roster? Like of people that want to talk to me or that I'm interested in talking to? I think the best way to look at, how about just people like you're in a one month period, people that there's a continuity and you're hooking up with them.
so like multiple people yeah that i would hook up with i don't really see myself as like i've always said this but i don't know why my mom said the same thing it's like she's like a one-man woman and i don't know why but my brain is like trained to think like that like i just i just don't think and i've like i've tried like casually hooking up and stuff like that but it's just like i don't know it's just not for me like it just feels like when you say you've tried
what do you mean like i was interested in someone and we both were too busy for a relationship too busy for the label and stuff like that but we both like we were both cool with each other like they're we were just cool we were on some friendship but um yeah it wasn't
that it wasn't serious like that or anything like we were honestly it was just like friends with benefits kind of okay so right now you've been single for nine months you had maybe one or two things in between uh is there currently any guy in the picture Right now, no. Yeah. There's nothing. There's not a single band. Not even a guy you've never even met, but you're talking to. I mean, no. I mean, there are people that I'm interested in, like Fernando Tatis Jr.
Sorry. Who the fuck is that guy? Who? Are you a Dodgers fan? Baseball? Are you a Dodgers fan? I'm sorry. He's a baseball player. People watch baseball? That's my team, yeah. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Go Padres. Exactly, go Padres on God. Yeah, go Padres. Yellow and brown, I believe yellow and brown. People love baseball, I wouldn't be here. I will get like slander for my wearing my hat, but like I will still wear my hat.
The Dodgers picture. Wait, so you have a crush on a professional baseball player? Yeah. Are you talking to him? I mean, I wish. I mean, like, if he sees it. Well, then he's not. Is that the American dream, though? Like, you know, that kind of thing? No, there's no. Have you slid into his DMs? No, but, oh, I should right now. You should right now.
you should right now you should be like hey like if you see this like you should be like watch me up and i think you need to text me or i could be like i can like a bunch of his pictures that or i could be like i could try to strike him out stories and then he might i'm gonna try to strike him out i just have to lose the nails first because I was a pitcher. But I don't know if you can hit underhand like that. Wait, you played softball? I did play softball. Period. What's your orientation?
What do you mean? Orientation. Do you date men? Do you date women? Are you bi? How is that stupid? Are you bi? It's just a stupid, like, that's just, like, stupid. I'm straight. Okay, why is that a stupid question? Because that's just, like, a, what's it called? Like, a... Stereotype? Stereotype, yeah. What was the fourth op in the polyamorous sexual thing? You don't have any stereotypes? Yeah, whatever. Hold on. You don't have any stereotypes? Like about what?
Everyone has them now. Do you stereotype people? I mean, yeah, but I think I just thought that was a stereotype. What do you mean? Like it was just a stereotype and I was just like, oh my God, that's like a stupid stereotype. That I made. Yeah. But... There typically tends to be some truth sometimes to some, not all stereotypes, but. Yeah, but it's not even that serious. I was just like, oh my God, you know, like I wasn't like, oh my God.
Kind of sounded like you were a little triggered by it. Well, guess what? I wasn't. Huh. So is it like a common stereotype for softball players to be bi? What? Oh, actually, yeah. I don't know why, but like most of my teammates, like they have been like, but I don't know why. Like, I don't know why. Why don't we ask the source here? Yeah. Was there a higher proportion? Was there was there a greater?
In comparison to the broad general population of the women that you played softball with, was there a higher proportion of women who are either bisexual or lesbian? Honestly... because i played soccer and softball so i can like really compare like sure soccer soccer like they were like more the population was straight and then softball was more honestly i'd say lesbian as opposed to bi or i mean both sure yeah i mean just like an overall statistic i don't know why i respect it
I actually kind of feel like that. A lot of my homegirls played softball in high school. Okay, so there's no guy in the picture then? Not right now, no. So have you been celibate for nine months? I'm trying to get an understanding of your current status here. I have been celibate for probably, I want to say five of those nine months. So I was celibate for a while just because I wanted to.
Get my money. So you've been selling for the past five months. Yes. Okay. I wanted to focus on myself, get my money up, and then focus on... Get your money up. Yes. Get the money. Do people not say that? No, people do. People do. Get the money out. I don't know. I listen to Pearl Jam. Wait, where are you from again? Sorry, no sidebars. Where are you from? I grew up in LA. So I guess, I don't know, Valley Girl. It just sounds like you're from the bay. I love people from the bay.
She is an abomination to the world. Please get the rocks and bring on the fucking comet. Get the rocks. Get the rocks. An abomination to the world. We'll see how the show goes. We'll see how the show goes. What about you? Okay, what was the question? I'm single. How long have you been single? For like a year. And your longest relationship? Was five years. From what age to what age? From 17 to 22. Wow. What happened to that?
Well, actually, it was my baby daddy. Oh, you have a kid? I have a son. Okay. Just one kid? Just one kid. Yeah, he's six. Can you scoot into the table a little bit? Just scoot the chair in? Is he in the kid's life? Yeah, my baby died. He's a really good dad. Were you guys married? We did get married at one point. Oh, okay. Who initiated the divorce?
Kind of both of us. I mean, he filed for it, but, I mean, we both didn't want to be together, so it was kind of mutual. Did you get married before or after you had the kid? After. After. How long were you married? About... Well, we separated when I was 22, but we didn't divorce until I was 24. So, I mean, I don't know what you want to consider that. Well, so you said you've been single for one year. When you say you've been single for one year, was that you counting the divorce? No.
So you were dating somebody else? Yeah, I dated somebody else. Okay, I see. Yeah. All right. And then did you guys have split custody? Yes. Like 50-50? 50-50. Okay. Yeah, we didn't really, like, fight each other on anything. You guys both live in L.A.? No, he lives in Wisconsin, actually. We did both live in L.A. together. Wait, how do you guys have 50, the kids with you or with him?
Well, it's kind of weird, like the court agreement. We have like a weird, unusual court agreement, but it's like... I'm supposed to have my son for, like, three years. He's supposed to have him for three years. Then I take him for four years, and then he takes him for four years. It's kind of, like, weird. It's very weird. Does the kid, like, go back to the other parents on the holidays? I've heard that. Yeah, well, honestly, right now, my son is with me.
my baby father and I go up there like once a month and I always go for holidays and birthdays of course. So are the three years like Your son lives with your baby father for like three years straight. You visit him like on holidays and stuff. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's kind of like, like, for example, I'm supposed to take him for the summer, so. Oh. Can you grab her phone, please? Yeah, we've got to collect the phones.
It's true. You got me. You got me. Now the snitching is crazy. That was fucked up. That was fucked up. Say it again. The camera wasn't on you. That was messed up. No, you can. Okay. And it's probably past his bedtime. He's a little grumpy. Yeah. Okay, so. No magnesium for him. And you're a musician, correct? Yes. He said the music. I want to do. What kind of music do you make? I make like pop music. Are you a rapper?
I like to rap, yes. Can we hear a rap? Oh, man. Oh, my God. Y'all trying to put me on the spot, eh? You should. I don't really want to. I don't want to embarrass myself. I mean, you have to pay. It's like premium. It's not free. I actually do like to freestyle, but I feel like what artists, you know, unless they're going on like a... you know like a radio type show or whatever and they're they're coming on there to freestyle what artist is just like oh let me just freestyle let's just like
I mean, it's exposure, so maybe I should just do it. I think you should. But also, if you don't want to, no pressure. No, I'm playing. I'm playing, I'm playing, I'm playing. I would have loved to hear more. Okay. So where were we? Have you ever had a roster? Kind of. Like, I guess when I was single, like, I kind of was like, made the best man win.
I mean, right now. Yeah, literally. That's what it is. But I kind of have high standards, so my roster is very much full of who can do the most for me type of thing. What do you mean? Like, I'm just like, I feel like I'm getting older, so I just feel like after a certain age, you've got to like mature up and only date people who can like.
actually help you in life like I don't know rather than just dating people because oh he's nice to me like in six months he might not be nice to you you know what I'm saying so I just feel like wasting your time there's no point in wasting your time like you might as well find some who like really wants like invest in you and like help you when you say when you say invest in you what do you mean like pay my bills you know I'm saying what are your bills
I have a lot of bills. Rent, my car, insurance, phone. What are your monthly expenses? My rent. Honestly, well, I have a roommate, but... My rent without my roommates is like $5,000, but I paid $2,500. Are you guys roommates? No. No, okay. So you said your car? Yeah, which is $5,500. Your rent. Your cell phone bill? What was the other stuff you want a guy to pay for? All of that. My hair, my nails, my lifestyle. Just so we have a better understanding.
Tell us, itemize this shit. Okay, my rent's $2,500. My car payment's $530. My insurance is like $300. Let me think what else I got. My phone bill is like $200. My Wi-Fi is probably like $50. My electric bill is probably like $100. So yeah, that and then I like to travel. I mean, I pay for everything by myself. So if you can't do that, I don't need to waste my time with you. That's just how she got on her own. So have you ever been in the...
That sort of situation where a guy did pay for all that stuff? Yes. Definitely. Can I ask, if you're wanting a guy to pay all your bills, what do you feel like you... are bringing into the relationship if he's doing all of that because that's a lot of my pretty self that's what i bring i know that's and i'm pretty smart you know i'm saying i'm a hustler so i get money i feel like most men that i've dealt with i brought a lot of value into the way Walsipoo donated $69.
Number eight is the most attractive. Number three coming in second. Number two definitely has HPV. Stay far away, fellas. Brian, keep the dumpy. Drizzle, drizzle. Question for the panel. Cut or uncut? Okay, we're going to come right back to what you're talking about. So his question is, circumcised or uncircumcised? Do you have a preference? Starting with you, go ahead. Circumcised.
I don't really care. For health purposes, circumcise just so they don't run into health issues or any infection or anything. This is for like somebody to be interested in eating. Circumcised. Go either way. Circumcised for sure. Circumcised. My husband. Period. Your husband? Yeah. Whatever he got going on. Whatever he got is what I want. She's not trying to put his business out there. May I ask how long you've been married? It's been a little over a year now.
Wait, so would it be a deal breaker if he was not cut? Are you asking me? No, the whole panel. Because all of you said cut. Is it a deal breaker if he's uncut? Yes. Deal breaker. I don't think I've ever been with a guy who hasn't. For health purposes, I would say, yeah. Health purposes.
Scientifically, there's more bacteria and buildup under there. Well, there can be. There can be. I mean, unless you clean yourself right. But you know what? A lot of these guys don't. A lot of them do not. A lot of them don't. Have you ever encountered an uncut guy? Yes. And it was unclean? I would say yes. I mean, it wasn't consensual. Wait, what? It wasn't consensual.
I'm not getting into anything. That's just a statement. That's a statement. I'm not saying what topic. Were you at a party when this happened? Something like that. What about you? I don't think I've ever been with someone who wasn't, so I can't tell you if it was a deal breaker for me or not. The delusion this singlehood mother states. Cash at me $4,000. Pay for our first dinner.
Pay my bills, and I will make sure your money is my money and will destroy your Ebonics talk. Drizzle, drizzle. All right. Thank you, Beatin' Cheeks. And we also have LPEs about to come in here. Wait, so Deal Breaker if he's uncut. I haven't. Loose pussy energy donated $69. Malibu's most women. Sounds like a cool song. Malibu is one.
That's a song, by the way. Yeah. Okay, quick answer. Deal breaker if he's uncut. Oh, I don't know. I've never been with somebody, so that wasn't, so I don't know if it's a deal breaker. So every guy you've been with has been cut. Yeah. Into the mic, please. No? Were you just not here for the question? I can repeat it. She's like, what? There's a 50% chance that this is the right answer. Would it be a deal breaker for you if the guy was uncut? Circumcision. No. Well, okay. No. Okay.
And actually, I'm going to have to boost the TTS here. We've already gone over the first 30 minutes. I'm going to get in Kill of Serial's questions. We'll come back to your thing. We'll come back to relationship status. Kill of Serial asked. can you explain god damn bro okay i'll do it man can you explain what the fabric of american culture is in modern society and how you think it affects modern dating society start with you go around the table i'll be right back
I'm not going to lie, my mind goes completely blank when you ask that question. Wait, what was the question? That sounds like it was written by ChatGBT. No, for real. I haven't answered that. So they were asking... How has modern society, how has it changed dating? And I have a couple things. It has definitely changed dating. So we're getting a lot of, so I mean, I obviously, you know, am in the adult entertainment world and I've done OnlyFans.
and all that, but I don't have one anymore because I don't believe in the commercial. Brian needs Xanax donated $69. You've got to get on some manga management pro LMFAO. You get stressed. He needs some magnesium. Yeah. Okay. So anyways, so yeah, the magnesium. Dude, that got me chilling. Magnesium? Living. You just relax, you know? And so they asked what was the... How has modern dating changed the landscape in the 90s?
we didn't deal with all this crazy stuff happening on the street you know what i mean like we didn't get these crazy reports in the 90s like maybe they happened but probably it was like one in 200 now it's one in like 10 yeah we're getting a lot of rags to riches stories because the whole only fans things it what it does is i've done only fans before i don't do it any longer um just because it's very difficult for me to keep up with the consumption of the pornographic material um i believe that
you know with certain things so we're getting a lot of people who never had money get money and now we're watching their reactions in society which is we are watching you know they go on a plane and they're like oh my gosh you're being a jerk to everybody or you're doing something go well i have a million followers whatever and i make money or whatever and i've seen this and
You know, we're going to get that because this is their first encounter with a large amount of money, and it can really change the way that certain people react. I am really, really tired of watching women.
Okay, if you're going to do bedroom stuff and bedroom nude lingerie, whatever, do it in the bedroom. Don't do it when I've seen people walk out, not in bikinis, in full-on lingerie, in public, in front of families, and it really pisses me off. I really don't like that. I've never done that as a mom. I've only gone out in a bikini, at a beach, like that's it. And I really think that that behavior actually needs to stop. I think that it distorts.
things for people and it puts parents in a really precarious search situation of having to explain what that just was why did they watch a person with like a gag ball in their mouth and you know one of my Yeah, that's one of my concerns. So I think that it affects dating because these kids watch this behavior and they see these people walking around.
in broad daylight with like you know lingerie on and they're just like mommy what is that and this mom's like fuck i gotta explain that like now like to to this like how am i just pay this like a six-year-old like good god you know and have some you know I don't believe in shaming people because shame is stored in the body and it can lead to diseases. But I do believe that there needs to be a healthy amount of shame to keep the common decency of society going.
Do you feel like a lot of, you know, because, like... influencers and you know like tons of people are all on only fans and like posting stuff like they don't really know they don't know they've never been trained in media so we look at k-pop stars so i've been trained in media so i work for a pr company and i've been trained in media My family's been in entertainment for over 100 years, and the Rosas family has been there.
However, there's certain people in the Roses family that I can't disclose because they're in children's entertainment. And I don't want to risk, you know, I mean, even though I'm in adult entertainment and it's completely legal, I don't want to risk their jobs. So I don't want to say that. But a lot of these entertainers really need to look into media training because these.
k-pop stars they're groomed to be a star and not like groomed in a bad way they're they're molded they're manicured to be a star you need media absolutely and that's negative talked about and that's negative but but but manicured is the word i should have used no yeah they are manic to be stars and you need to be manicured to be a star because you represent
If you represent something and people like you, you probably should do media training, honestly. Especially in the adult film industry. Exactly. I absolutely agree. I mean, I'm all for supporting that and doing what you want to do, like whatever career path you want to take. They need to be manicured to be celebrities if they really want to do that and they really need to dedicate their life to it.
Were you guys actually answering the question? Yeah, no, I answered it. Did you guys answer? No. Yeah. I don't even remember the question at this point. Well, it affects dating because that's what people see on television. I think there's a lot of political agendas that definitely are going on. I need you guys to be paying attention. I mean, you left.
I literally asked the question right before I left, and it came in multiple times. Okay? It was a very big question. We were having a good conversation over here. I'll tell you that. Okay, so. We have a big piece. After your opinion... Wait, okay. Can you explain what the fabric of American... Kill it, cereal. I fucking love you. This is...
I'm already tilted. I'm already tilted today. This is a dog shit question, but I'll ask it. Okay. Explain what the fabric of American culture is in modern society and relate it to modern dating. I want to say, I guess the fabric. You got to please kindly speak into the microphone. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. She was thinking. No, if she speaks, she needs to be in the fucking microphone. You don't need to challenge me every time I'm trying to get the show.
On the fucking rails. Do you understand? But it's just kind of fun. Yeah. How about you don't do it and just fucking drop the fucking attitude? Go ahead. I just don't want to. It's about to get heated.
um i was gonna say the oops sorry bro i got the claws anyway um i was gonna say that i think the honestly i think the biggest issue right now is arguably social media especially the way it portrays young minds and dating like pornography and stuff like that and that's so common like twitter just legalized porn and there's nothing wrong with it but if it gets found
at a young age like per se like i first found it by accident when i was like 12 and i was like what the fuck is this like so literally i think that that honestly like i don't want to say it like poisons your brain but it kind of does if you're unaware of the repercussions of that, especially if it's found at a young age. So I guess the internet pornography and the way that that kind of portrays that affects modern dating. Completely agree. Yeah, what she said. I agree the same. I agree the same.
Just being so casual situationships, I think it just allows people to be unhappy and be used. And people, in my opinion. will pretend to be like a certain type of girl to keep a guy sometimes because they think that's what he will like and they don't want to lose him and they think maybe eventually he will like them and social media is pretty much all fake.
I think people, yeah, just too casual about sex and love, and I think it's kind of ruined our generation. It was very true, definitely. I think social media is definitely ruining it. I feel like it's dividing men and women a lot. I mean, women are being told that they don't need a man. They're being told to go get the bag, to be independent women. That divides them. Men are, I mean, I've seen a video, and the comment section was...
Dude, holy shit. Calm that down, Brian. Take some deep breaths. You're more agitated than usual today, and it's annoying. They aren't being that dumb. Really, bro? We're not. Thank you. He needs a Xanax. Bro, I'm just gonna be honest. Like, this is one of the most fucking feral days we've had, dude. What is feral? Like, what do you even mean by feral? Like, you're kind of feral. How am I feral? These girls are fucking nearly two hours. These two girls are two hours late. My friend died.
Yeah, if you could just have any type of sympathy, that would be amazing. But what do you mean by feral? Why don't you just... google what feral means no but i'd like you to elaborate it in this context google it no i think in this context i think in this context it's important for you to elaborate on we had two no shows we had two flakes
And that makes me feral, but we're here. Yeah, you've been feral. You have an attitude. So feral means attitude? I don't know. I feel like if you look that up, that's not what it's going to say. Why don't you Google it? Why don't you Google it? Sassy. It's a sassy man apocalypse, right? That's what I said. That's what I said earlier. I know that most of you have moved through your lives in a very sort of pampered way because of the female privilege that you all have.
I tend to lean on this. Yo, shut the fuck up. You don't need to be fucking being disrespectful. I didn't say a single word. Why don't you repeat the gesture you were just making? Is that not disrespectful? I just think it's funny. You think it's funny? I think you've said a lot of disrespectful things. Give me an example. I don't know. Just like completely interrogating her friend's death. Also just ignoring it at the same time. How did I ignore it?
She would speak on it. You'd be like, yeah, whatever. Moving on to the next person. But then you'd also be like, how did they lie? Literally never said that. Like, blah, blah, blah. By the way, this is a panel show. So yeah, she said her piece. I moved it on. I'm the host of the show. I will move things on whenever I like to. You do that. I guess Feral, in my opinion, I think that Feral podcast, this is going to get you more views, though.
like if i'm being completely honest like not on any disrespectful shit like honestly if you have more beef like that if you want to get a reaction out of someone which as a podcast host that's what you're trying honestly i'm helping you yeah no but there's a it's it's cool if you can have an actual i prefer actually have back and forth over
you know actual conversation topics instead of somebody you think just asking girls like oh what's your situation what's your relationship what's your relationship is back and forth what we were doing was back and forth what we were doing was back and forth you just asking what's your body count what's your blah how many subscribers does your podcast have girl i don't have a fucking podcast how many i don't like do you think numbers matter
If you're trying to lecture me over how I can make a successful podcast. I'm just saying you want back and forth. You're not doing back and forth. Prove that your friend died. If my friend died, I would not be on there. I would be drinking and listening to Creed.
I told her to come. I had a commitment. She told me to come and I was late, which I damned the podcast and asked if I should still come because I knew it was disrespectful to be late. But because I had a commitment, what time was the funeral? It was like 10 a.m. And I live two hours away from here. You're in L.A., right? I'm in Calabasas. I just moved back to Hollywood. So I guess where I'm a little confused, you would have had to leave around 2 p.m. You didn't message our page until 318.
You wrote, apologies. Me and Josie are running very late. I was at my friend's funeral this morning. Yes. I've been to funerals. Not the day after, though. Me neither. That's why I didn't know what was going on. I understand that you had this last minute thing come up. But, you know, given that you had a predetermined plan to be here.
One, you could have given us a bit more notice. You would have known at 2 p.m. I didn't have notice that my friend died. No, but you went to the funeral. I went to the funeral to be respectful. At 10 a.m. Is there something wrong with that?
Holy fuck, dude, she's a human being. No, genuinely. She's a human being. No, hear me out. Genuinely, like, please. If I had agreed to be somewhere and something came up, I would have just done the courteous thing and let them know, hey, sorry, I'm going to be running late as soon as I found out. No, yeah, it was a very rough morning. It was a very rough night for me. Okay. I'm not...
That it was just, it was sudden. And I have empathy for that. I'm sorry to hear that. No, you do not. I literally just said it. Shut the fuck up. So. Okay, do not speak to me like that. You're the one with the fucking attitude. I'm just saying you don't have fucking empathy. Speaking of empathy, this is that famous... May I? Go ahead. Thank you. If you had a friend's funeral that happened very suddenly, which I don't...
Would you show up to the funeral? If I had a doctor's appointment at 5 p.m. and something came up and I had to cancel it, I would have called as soon as possible and just... took it done the courteous thing hold on hold on done the courteous thing and just said taking 30 seconds hey i'm very sorry something came up i'm not going to be able to make it that's it
Yeah, that would have been the courteous thing to do. So you admit that you were up all night. You were crying all night. You were running around, doing stuff, going to the funeral. You weren't even sure if you really wanted to come because of that. You're calling me like...
I don't know what to do. I'm like, let's just go if you feel up to it. And she was like, halfway yeah i do halfway i don't and she was kind of like oh i want to i kind of don't and i told her i was like well i already got ready like let's like if you want to go let's go so then we ended up going we were late yeah but i mean this girl was freaking
Hurricane Sandy, whatever. I mean, it was, I'm not saying that it wasn't, I'm not saying that it was courteous. I definitely could have done more. And I'm a very punctual and on-time person. I'm a student. I have worked two jobs. I have a freaking studio internship. I'm a very punctual person. I have a very busy schedule that I have to manage because I'm very focused on my education and making money. So I do call ahead. When I'm late to work, I call ahead. But today...
this specific thing this was so sudden this hurt me so bad that this was like the last of my worries and i know that that's not respectful that's not courteous but courtesy wasn't on my mind and i can admit that's not the right thing necessarily and i apologize for that and i'm sorry that we were late i'm sorry
Your friend passes away yesterday. What's your name again? Brian? Your friend passes away yesterday, Brian, is the first thing you're going to do when you find out your friend passes away and be like,
Oh, my God, whatever podcast. I'm so sorry. I can't make it in. Like, no. No, it's not the first thing I'm going to do. However, I will. See, and it wasn't the first thing. You are a bit older, though. Can you stop saying that to me? No, you keep interrupting. You've been rude this entire fucking time. I'm matching your energy.
If I'm speaking, stop interrupting. You asked me a question. You asked me a question. I was responding to your question. Do you understand? So if I'm going to be responding to your question, you need to allow me to respond instead of just fucking bull. and refusing to let me fully answer the question. So, yes, if something catastrophic happened...
Lulu donated $69. Perfect example of females only being able to see when they've been disrespected but don't take accountability when they disrespect others. Typical pampered my feelings more important than yours. So, hold on, I'll answer your question. So, yes, if I became aware of, I suppose...
Would you consider this a dear friend or just an acquaintance? He was a dear friend. Dear friend. Okay. You've known him for a year? Okay. So if it was a guy who I knew for a year and he was a dear friend and I found out... I would obviously be upset, I would be distraught, and I would prioritize, okay, can I make it to the funeral? If I had any plans for that day that required me to clear my schedule,
I would have done the courteous thing because two things can coexist at the same time. You can be frantic and moving around when it comes to, okay, funeral plans. And you can also realize, well, I told these people I have a commitment. I don't know if this is just me. I don't know if this is just...
I'm crazy for trying to be respectful of other people's time, even if I'm going through some crazy shit. I would just do the courteous thing and just reach out and say, hey, something came up. I'm going to be really late. I'm going to try to give them as much advance notice as possible. That's it.
Some people don't operate that way. That's fine. Yeah, I mean, she's a little younger than you, and I also feel like, you know, she's 19. I don't know how old. You're like 30, 40 maybe. God, you're a fucking bitch. You know that? What's your fucking problem? I don't know. Yeah. I'm going to have to kick her. I probably... I can't read that. Okay, fuck you. He was speaking like... Gibberish. Literally. He's saying I love tacos and Mexican chicks. Me too.
The way you're conducting yourself right now, the way you're conducting yourself with me, have you ever conducted yourself this way with the guy you claim was mentally abusive towards you? Did you ever conduct yourself that way towards him? We're not going there. I don't think we're going to go there. Because I think it's perhaps you who's the abusive one. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. I don't really think you know me.
at all. Well it's interesting you're making quite a lot of judgments and knee-jerk assessments about me. I'm actually not. I just think you're kind of like a dick. You've literally done it multiple times. I haven't made any. I've just responded to you. I'm a dick, you're a bitch.
You've called me a bitch multiple times. Have I given a single fuck? No. And you've called me an asshole multiple times. And you've given many fucks, man. You walked off the fucking stage. I had to fix the camera angles. Holy fuck, bro. Do you have a question? What's your relationship like with your parents? With my parents? Yeah, I knew that one was coming. It's great. I love both my parents. They still together? No. Okay. What's your relationship like with your father?
I don't feel like I need to tell you any of this. I'm just curious. I'm just not going to tell you. You're just not going to answer the question? Correct. Plead the fifth. I know, it's troubling. I'm pretty sure you just came on intentionally just to troll. I don't know. I was like in the road and you guys just approached me. So I didn't really come on here. You guys kind of asked me to come on. Yeah, that's right. But you've kind of come on with like a very nasty attitude.
Not really. I just think you kind of ask ridiculous questions. You ask like dumb questions. And I know they all agree. You agree? No. You agree? I think he's been doing this for a long time. He knows how to get views. Yeah, I think he's smart, and I think he's just kind of picking at certain things. Exactly. I'm not.
Exactly. I'm literally asking you guys about your dating history. It's a dating show. Yeah, it's not that that you're picking at. The questions I'm asking are totally contextual. Yeah, I'm not saying anything about that. I'm more like just picking at the, yeah. You know, poking the bear, man. Well, I mean, it depends. Is she poking the bear back? It's definitely both ways. Yeah, you're poking the bear. I'm poking the bear back. Like, what's the problem with that?
I'm not poking the bear. I'm asking legitimate questions. I think the fact that you're a guest... But you were asking her her relationship with her father and all that. That kind of could be offensive. You're trying to go into my relationship. You're asking who was the abuser? What kind of abuse? What kind of fucking human asked somebody that? I wouldn't even ask my closest friend that. You're the one who brought up abuse.
You're the one who asked me why we weren't together anymore. I said it was a mentally abusive relationship. You're like, oh, what kind of abuse? Did he hit you? Blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, who the fuck asks that? That's not how I framed it. You said, did he hit you? Same fucking question.
That's not, that's literally not what I said. I asked if it was physically abusive. That's the same thing. Physically abusive, did he at you, that's the same thing. No, it's not. The words are literally different.
Oh, my God. You don't think it's fair game to ask a question? I just feel like the questions you ask, you ask them for a very specific reason. And I think you're strategic about what you're doing. Of course. And I respect it. I know what you're doing. What am I doing? I think you're really good at it. What am I doing? You're just trying to get some content. And I respect that. But I'm just not going to give you that. I'm literally asking you guys questions. Okay.
So continue asking your questions. Well, I mean, the questions technically weren't covered in what we were DMed with the question rack. So I think that caught some of us. There's nothing wrong with that at all. Like, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that question. I don't even know what you're referencing now.
Like, what's the relationship with my father? What's the deal with my friend's death? It's sus to have a funeral. I know it sounds sus, but that's like, oh, well, your friend passed at two. You should have been here at four. Like, that's fucking weird.
I know that might not be exactly what it was, but you were questioning why she wasn't here when her friend passed yesterday. Can I say something? Like, hello? Go ahead. Let's just say he was your boss and you had to be at work and someone died and you decided to not show up.
If you just say last minute, oh, well, sorry, I had a funeral, they would expect you. It's kind of the same thing. If you're expected to be somewhere, I mean, if someone died and I had to go to work, the first thing I would do is call out of work because I don't want to. one, lose the respect of, you know, my employer, my coworkers. I don't want to leave that shift to fall on someone else.
Oh, not at all, but this is a shift. But it's not like your mind just goes blank when those things happen. That's exactly what happens when you have diagnosed PTSD. I mean, I've definitely been in situations where I was super frantic and things were going crazy. I was not okay, and I'm okay most of it.
And what you're saying is valid as well. It's a commitment to make. I am in the wrong. I can admit that. And her friend did die. And to elaborate a little bit on it, I guess, her friend is... artists who gave her a lot of like placements and things like that so that's why she's really distraught about him passing because it's not like this person was just I mean it was more than really a friend it was kind of a business relationship you guys had as well.
From what I understand, at least. Well, yeah, I mean, it was. But you're not really speaking. I mean, all we're saying is if he, you know, everyone feels bad, of course, if it did happen. It's just like he's just saying, hey. it would have felt better if you would have been like look i'm really sorry i should have texted you so and i'm saying like she's 19 like i don't know if you can really
Not that she's probably one of the most mature 19-year-olds I know. No, I do. And it's interesting answering for her, too. Yeah, well, because I feel you guys are attacking her. And I just don't like seeing that, and I don't feel like she knows how to respond to all the questions properly sometimes. And I'm not saying you're not intelligent. No, I don't. But I know you haven't slept last night. Yeah, and I also know you haven't slept.
at all I know what's going on with you so that's why I feel entitled to speak on it a little bit you also have to understand on this topic is that we've probably had on over a thousand guests Every single week we do shows, Sunday, Tuesday. Mind you, I believe, I don't recall the precise details. We've had you scheduled previously. And my car blew out.
My transmission blew out. If I recall correctly, you let us know like two hours before the show. Because my car transmission blew out when I was on the road. So you understand. And we've had a couple girls here who have been on the show before. They've seen it firsthand. Some people have legitimate excuses. A lot of the girls who come on the show, they lie. They make up some bullshit. For example...
We've had girls who've said, I had a car issue. It broke down. And they'll send us a photo, even. And it's local here. We had this a couple weeks ago. It was a cloudy, in the photo, it was a cloudy day. Now, I live in the same area. It was clear skies and sunny the whole day. Here's my car broken down from today. So people will lie. We've had girls who say, oh, I'm sick.
Oh, something happened. I can't make it. And then we look at their Instagram later. They're at the club. They're at the bar. They're on a boat. They're on the yacht. A lot of people lie. Okay. No, they do. I'm not saying you're lying. I actually believe you. Well, I don't blame you for assuming that. I actually believe you, but a lot of people are liars. They'll come up with, my dog ate my homework type shit. So I am skeptical.
In general, when people choose to flake on plans. Now, this can be dating related. It can be professionally related. People tend to lie. People lie frequently. Like this, because you're put on the spot.
And on the spot right now, I'm driving my dad's Chevy Equinox. I drive a 2016 Chevrolet Bull. I'm not saying you're lying. No, I'm just saying, no, I know you're not talking to me. I'm giving you the reason for why I'm skeptical when people come up with, oh, here's why I'm late. Here's why I, you know.
can't make it he's saying people do it all the time no i imagine that that's why i was so no show today no i understand that's why i was so like i need to get here today because i failed to that commitment last time because some like crazy like it was like the stupidest shit like i like i started the car
and it wouldn't go forward because the transmission blew and it's literally still in the shop like it's just like i don't know i might i need to get like a rabbit's foot or something but like i don't know so it's all good we're gonna keep things moving I appreciate that you were able to make it here today. I apologize for being late. It's okay. I thank you for your apology. Okay, so we're going to get back. We're going to get back.
You were saying something about what you want from a man. Oh, yeah. Back to that. Back to this controversial subject. So what? What do I want from a man? That's what you're asking me? Yeah, you were saying how you want a guy to pay for all your bills and stuff. Pretty much. I feel like men don't really... just from my own relationship experiences and just being a person who was really loyal and held things down.
Most of the money went to college, moved from Wisconsin to Phoenix to California, and kind of held the team up and tried to put motivation into a man and all that. I just feel like men only really... I won't say this will even make them loyal or whatever, but I feel like they have to invest into you for them to really be, I don't know.
stable with you i feel like if they don't invest in you then it you know you end up that's why women just end up in these situations where it's like oh i have a kid and he cheated on me and all this that happened and then and and Now I'm left with nothing, and I got to raise this kid by myself and all this stuff. Well, I feel like you didn't have a standard going into the relationship. Like, you know, this is my standard. I'm not dating you. I'm not having sex with you unless.
this is met because once they do that i feel like once those requirements are met and standards are met it's going to be a lot harder for them to leave you a lot harder for them to like move on so that's my take on it i have a question for you yeah um you said If he's paying for all your stuff, you're bringing to the table your pretty self. If a man was just attractive, very attractive, and that was it, and you were with him, would you stay with him? No.
I don't date men based on their attraction. I don't date them based on their looks. So don't you think it's a bit hypocritical that you expect him to pour in all this effort? I feel like men definitely date based on looks. I feel like women don't. You know? So I don't feel like, you know, sure, there's a double standard on stuff, but, you know, society is the way it is, and I feel like women need to have more standard for themselves, and that's my opinion on that. Okay, so if...
All you're bringing to the table is looks and good looks are pretty common. And so he can go and find another girl with good looks. Do you expect him to stay with you? Well, if he's investing in me, he's not going to want to lose his investment on me. So he will stay with me. I think. And if he doesn't, then on to the next. I didn't lose anything in this relationship. I only gained. Rather than me losing, like, okay, we got in a relationship. You didn't invest anything.
Now I'm emotionally involved with you. Maybe you cheat on me with my best friend. Maybe you, who knows what happens. Now I'm emotionally distraught. Now my dating life is messed up because I'm still thinking about you. I'm trying to get over you. I can't. All that, no, instead, if a man invests in you, I just feel like now it's going to be a lot harder for him to leave you if you have that standard from the jump.
to begin with, if you understand what I'm saying. I do. Do you think having that standard from the jump might keep you single longer? I think it makes, it weeds out all the men who... you know don't want to do that and a lot of men have their like little you know oh she's a gold digger oh you're this or that you know but i don't really care because
Like, what are you? You're probably not any better than me. Like, you know, so. And do you think you'll respect a man, like truly respect him, if he is accepting you for just your looks and you're expecting all of this from him?
And so he's catering to your needs and has no standards for himself besides looks? I mean, I don't think that that means he doesn't have a standard. I think it means he has more respect for women if he feels like, I don't want my woman to be struggling. I don't want her to be.
in this, like... fight or flight mode you know like rather than I'm taking care of her you know and I'm providing this safe space for her to be herself and you know maybe work on the things that like now do I I mean I'm personally not ever oh I never stopped working. That's just me, my type of who I am. But I don't think if a woman wants to be with a man, I don't think she should. It shouldn't be like, oh, you've got to work too.
A guy should not be approaching a woman like, what do you bring to the table? Like, if you like me, okay, you like how I look because I think men, like I said, date for looks. So you like me, you like how I look, maybe we go on a few dates, whatever, whatever, and you're interested in me, okay. Well, before I do anything with you, this is my standard. If you don't want to meet that, then...
That's what it is. We can be friends. Or we just don't even got to be, like, if you can't be my friend, then we don't got to be anything. And that's what it is. And I think, like, he... I definitely have respect for a man because also, if a man is providing for me, why would I leave somebody who's doing all this for me? That's not easy to come by either. So, you know what I'm saying? Like, it kind of goes both ways, I feel like.
I almost said something. I would say, wait, you tell them right up front that you want them to pay for everything? Yeah, I mean, I make it pretty clear. Like, I feel like...
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go ahead. Oh, sorry. I feel like I make it pretty clear from the, I mean, if you know me and you're around me, you're going to know, like, that's the type of time I'm on. And then if you don't know me or just getting to know me, you're going to learn pretty quickly that's the type of time I'm on. So how do you say it to them? i mean i just say like honestly they mainly kind of understand the vibe because generally what happens is
If it's not spoken, like they've taken me on a few dates and I didn't do anything with them and I leave. And then it's like, okay, so obviously she wants something. So then maybe they'll be like, oh, I want to spoil you, or I want this, and I'll be like, okay, like, yeah, or I want to take you on a vacation or something. I'm like, okay, well, I have bills to pay. I have stuff. I can't just leave. You know, I got to work. So...
If you want me to be all accessible to you, I need some money. Like, I need a bill paid. Like, here's my rent. I don't know. Like, I don't know. So, yeah, I mean, I kind of do. Like, honestly, by, like, the third date. It's known. Do you tell them you're a rapper on the date? Yeah, I tell them everything about me. Do you rap for them?
Yeah, if they want to put a bean on. Abigail, we need to do a couple chats. I'm going to have you read them. Heads up, guys. We're not doing $69 anymore. We boosted it back up. I should have announced it. You know, we only do for the first 30 minutes of the show. I'll have Abigail read them. So we'll let them come in. So, Abigail, I'm going to have you read a couple.
into the mic you gotta do it into the mic though second girl you are a guest this is brian's show it is very sus to have a funeral the day after death that is very strange so brian is right to question Lose the attitude. I believe it. No respect. Pathetic. All right. We have another one coming in. Go ahead, read that. Brian, stop milking green shirt's attitude and behavior for views and kicker.
She brought the show to a grinding halt, and it's annoying. All right. We have Bronaissance. But thank you, Illinois boy. Appreciate it. Go ahead. Andrew is not here, but I have really bad vision. Broissance. Okay, but the broissance, I have really bad vision. Question to all the women. Is your father or stepfather in your life? The blue sweater chick looks like someone too hurt to the sad basement.
for a diddle what i have no idea what that means yeah uh is your father stepfather in your life going around the table starting with abigail actually go ahead My father? Oh, yeah. He's in my life. He's wonderful. Happy Father's Day, Bat. Happy Father's Day, Bat. Happy Father's Day. I love you. Yes, he's very much in my life. Yes, my dad is very much in my life. Bolt up.
Yes, I love my dad. Shout out, dad. Yes, my dad's in my life. Yes, love you, dad. Happy Father's Day. Yes, my dad reentered my life as an adult, and yes. Yes, love you, Gary. Yes, my dad is. All right, and then we have one more. If you can't read it, I'll read it. Go for it. You can read it. Hey, Brian, longtime fan of the podcast and your social projects, and I want to hop on the podcast someday if I can, but keep cooking these.
OF girls and snap them back to reality. You're doing the Lord's work. All right. By the way, guys, read is 99 from here on out. TTS is one 99 from here on out. So 100 for Reed, 200 for TTS. But those just kind of slid through there. So I just wanted to at least get them read. Sorry they didn't come through as a TTS. Just forgot to mention that. Pull your mic to the edge. Oh.
Yeah, we'll do Twitch. Guys, drop us a follow on Twitch. Follow us on Twitch. If you've got a Prime sub, drop us a Prime sub. 1,600 people watching. No ads over there on Twitch. Yeah, Walsh, thanks for the prime, man. Appreciate it. Thank you, guys. Thank you for all the followers and primes. Appreciate it, guys. Thank you. And, okay, I want to...
We'll come back to some of your stuff. We need to get relationship status, though, so go ahead. Single. How long have you been single? Well, for five months now. Longest relationship was a year and a half. And if you want to see why we ended, go to the other podcast that I was in. Oh. Can you just give us a recap for the new viewers? Mommy issues with him, and we were just both immature.
both immature okay uh and you were on like two months ago a month ago or something yeah like a month ago any dating any dating prospects no from that okay what about you I am single. I've been single for four years, and my longest relationship was six years. And you're religious, correct? Yeah.
I have a relationship with Jesus. Yeah, I know you're going to say that. So are you, you're like non-denominational Christian? Yeah, non-denominational. Protestant or just non-denominational? You could say Protestant. Okay. And so, do you consider yourself a born-again? Yes, I do. Now, do you consider yourself a born-again virgin?
i mean i don't really think about the term but uh no i don't think of it like that i just went celibate now because i repented from premarital sex and got to pick it up and keep it moving sure what about you Relationships? We're still on that? Yeah, that's... Yeah, okay. I'm married. I've been married for a little over a year, and my longest relationship is my marriage. Still married? Yep.
Love that ring. Thank you. That's amazing. How long were you guys dating? We actually didn't date. I've known him for a little over three years now. We were best friends, and we just... started falling for each other, and we wanted to buy a house together, and I'm big on not living together before marriage, so we got married. And you were on about a year ago, if I recall. Is that correct? Yeah, I think it was like nine months ago or something like that.
Okay, and marriage going well? Yeah, very well. Good.
What do you say to people who kind of raise an eyebrow? You know, getting married at 20 is, I would say, a bit uncommon nowadays. Yeah. I don't know if you ever get... criticisms or what do you say to those people people definitely do criticize I guess my biggest defense is my parents have been happily married for a very long time and they raised me to get married and they approve of this man and they approve of the marriage and I'm way happier married than I was single I don't intend to
get married to end up divorced so it's till death do us part and I think I mean I don't have to answer the people who raise an eyebrow to me of course people are going to have their opinions but It doesn't affect the longevity of our marriage. Okay. I see. All right. Cool. We've got everybody's relationship status. We're working on getting Andrew. He should be joining us here in just a few minutes.
So we have pelagic. It's on purpose. She's purposely trying to throw you off with her mental manipulation. She's good. No doubt about that. Not for me. Yeah, no. You're right, Pelagic. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Appreciate it, dude. And like the video, boys. Like the video. It helps out with the algorithm. So thank you, guys. What was the, Nick, is there anything we had to react to? Yeah, there's that, and then... Yeah, hold on Okay, I'm trying to think when I want to do this
One sec, guys. I'm just checking on Andrew here. I think, Nick, do you want to boot up Discord and just give him a call, see if he's good to go? All right. So I do want to come back to what you were saying here for just a moment. hoping to get a little more detail on what you're looking for in a guy. You said you don't really care about looks. Yeah, it's not that I don't, but it's not like my top thing.
Like, he's got to be clean, but he doesn't got to be, like, the most handsomest person. I do have a question. So you said for a guy, looks are important. And for you... clearly being able to support you financially is important. So I'll re-ask my question before instead of just looks. If he only had money and that was it, that's all he had going for him, would you stay with him?
I mean, is he helping me? All he brings to the table is money. He's giving you his money, but he could be super ugly, bad personality, dirty, ruins your house. No, definitely not. Okay. Yeah, definitely not. I mean, if you're, I feel like, cool, you pay all my bills, but I mean, if you're just stressing me out. So you expect more than just financial stability. Well, yes, I mean I'm kind of confused with like exactly what else I what else
I'm only asking this because you said you bring to the table your looks. You didn't list any other things. That's what I'm going on. I don't think a guy who likes me as much to... help me out like that. I don't think he's probably only interested in my looks, but he might be. So if he's interested in more than your looks, what do you think he is that he's interested in? If he's not a good person, then he's not for me. I don't want to deal with anybody who's a bad person.
person like you know at least so I would define a good person or what I would define a bad person is which my definition is going to be different from everybody else's so you know um so would you say you're a good person I'm a pretty good person I think so too And Nick, how's it getting worked with Andrew? Have you tried calling him? You can still try to do the voice call.
I think he should, maybe he's just getting a couple things all set up. Well, to kind of echo the question that Abigail was asking before. Perhaps you can restate it because there's a bit of hecticness going on. She asked, what do you bring to the table? Yeah, you know, my pretty self. Do you cook or clean? I clean. I cook sometimes. But I'm not going to cook or clean unless you're providing for me. Do you expect a guy to do all those things that you want him to do immediately? Not necessarily.
Okay. No, I mean, I think if the relationship builds out over time, sure, but then we're not having sex, if that makes sense. You're not? Like, we could be dating, but we're not. Oh. Having sex. You know what I'm saying? Like, as in, if I like you and you like me and, you know, it's not, you're not there yet. Like, you're not trying to.
do something for me or help me out in my life like whatever then yeah i mean we could date for a while and stuff but you wouldn't have sex until they start paying you for things Yeah, I want to say paying me for things. I mean, you're going to make it sound like I'm an escort. Well, but I mean, I'm trying to be charitable here. But you said that you're waiting to have sex until they fall into the provider role.
Correct. I think so. Yeah. So you'll date a guy and then, but you will withhold sex until he does what? Until, you know, my life is taken care of. Okay, so... Like, why would I be intimate with you? Why would I be intimate with you if you're not...
If you don't care about, like, just because we're intimate doesn't mean you care about me. Like, show me that you actually care about me. Like, do stuff. Like, even just bringing flowers and stuff, anybody could do that and then stop doing that. So I feel like that doesn't, for a man. Couldn't the guy provide for you?
you and then stop providing yeah and then we're not gonna continue our relationship my question here is how is this not definitionally prostitution it's definitely not prostitution because i'm not For one, I mean, I'm definitely not slandering anybody, but I'm not on the street.
corner um i'm not it's not it's not it's not oh this you wanna uh this is what it is like even if you give me money that doesn't mean i'm gonna be intimate with you well it might not be but if i like you then yeah right but that's okay I acknowledge that it's not a super overt transaction insofar as... I will have sex with you. Pay me $300 right now and then I'll fuck you. But if your standard is, I will not sleep with you.
until you pay XYZ bill. I think that's just the standard. I think that's the standard most women should. I feel like women are selling themselves short, selling themselves short of what they could actually be receiving in a relationship. And most men, especially wealthy men, have stay-at-home wives and they provide for them so are they prostitutes are they escorts are they all that i mean i think you're selling yourself short because
I don't think so. Guys that have money and spending it on girls, it doesn't really even mean that he likes you or cares about you, especially if he has money. He'll do that for multiple women. when a guy really likes you, he'll probably marry you. Guys are into marriage and stuff, but just spending money on you doesn't mean that he truly likes you or cares about you. And just because, you know, just like a lot of women date for a very long time and, you know,
They might be bringing a lot to the table. They might have held this man down when he was down and out. They might have took care of his kids. They might have raised his kids. They might have bailed him out of situations, whatnot. That doesn't mean he's going to marry you either. what you know what's the standard like marriage is really a choice between both people like so that's not like money being involved or not has nothing to do with marriage I think like personally but
You know, I think a man has more interest in you and will be more interested in a deeper relationship if he's already investing in you. It's going to make it very much harder for him to leave you. I don't think guys can. I have a question. I think they do. I have a question. I think that sometimes in just my personal experience with life and everything, what I've brought to the table has made men not want to date me.
intimidated exactly to the point where like it makes me like try to like hide who i am and don't like very independent women and and and it hurts me it does they have the desire to provide i know it's an independent woman therefore and that that's why i'm like I'm here to love you, and I'm here to be there, and I'm a very submissive person, but I just...
find myself in that situation a lot with dating and it's just it seems like they get jealous of me like very angry i've noticed this in my personal life to the point where like it's like i've given and i've given and i've given and i just don't know why you just can't accept like want to see me smile kind of thing like you you don't want to see me
So that's, that's what I wonder about things. So that's where, that's where the whole, you know, bringing to the table, I try to hide what I bring to the table because I feel like if I bring too much. Can I ask you a question? So, okay. So your new standard is, has this always been your standard with every single guy? you have had sex with okay so your standard is you'll date a guy for months but until he starts providing for you so paying for your rent paying for your car
paying for your makeup, your, I forgot the other stuff, your insurance, your utility bills. You won't sleep with him until he starts doing that. Can I ask you a question? You're a single mom. The father of your child, did he have to do all that stuff for you to sleep with him? No, but he's the reason why I'm like this. What do you mean he's the reason? Thank you.
You helped me out. But don't you think, I mean, what about, I'm sure, wait, wait, hold on, hold on. So you dated other guys too before him, right? Yeah, I was in one relationship after that. And so have you ever had this stand, like. Yeah, I mean, my last relationship... No, no, no, but I mean, like, prior to that, like, have you dated multiple guys? Not at the same time, but have you dated multiple guys and this was never the standard? You just... No. You liked them, so you slept with them?
not really i mean so are you saying that every single guy you've slept with they had to what provide provide no i just said that my baby daddy i mean my baby father didn't really but we were both really young so i mean i can't really expect when i look back at that relationship i can't really expect that because i didn't have that standard going into the relationship as well also i was young i was 17. so what 17 year old is thinking like
oh, I got bills and stuff. Like, you're not thinking that. So, like, that relationship and me having a kid and all that, those were consequences of my actions, you know? Wait, but so... honestly and i love my son no i love my son and um he's a blessing and everything but i have my son at like 19 like that's young like you know so I just feel like for women I just wish women would have more of a standard and they wouldn't end up in such crazy predicaments but I mean in terms of kind of looking
at uh you know what the guys who would potentially be wanting to date you uh in terms of like the value proposition don't you think you would have oh yeah Don't you think the value proposition to the men Like, don't you think you would have had more leverage prior to dating all these dudes, being a single mom? You would have had more leverage to secure a guy who would actually...
be okay with the sort of arrangement you're proposing as compared to now? I'm confused with your question. Well, I mean... I mean... What? just say it again okay it's like you got it you got a kid a lot of single men like if they don't have a kid they probably don't want to deal with that Not all men. Some men are okay with it. Yeah. But it's just like, how are the guys going to feel like, okay, you let the past 10 dudes hit it on the first date, but I got it.
You got a three-month, I don't know what your actual minimum, you got a three-month waiting rule and the guy's got to pay for you and all this stuff? Three-month waiting rule. No, I mean, it's definitely not that. First off, I didn't let the last 10 dudes hit for free. And nobody's hitting like that because I have a standard for myself. And I've always had a type standard. I was in a very long relationship. I was very loyal coming out of that relationship.
getting another relationship it was the same thing i was very loyal but i just had more standards in this relationship let me rephrase the question so is the standard that you just disclosed that you have now the standard of yeah a guy hold on The guy has to provide. Is that a standard that you held? Like all the previous men too. I don't know how many that is. My baby father, no, because we were young. We were both in high school. What high schooler is going to pay for...
A high schooler's bills, that's not even a thing. But I didn't know at that time. So every guy after high school? Jesus Christ. Yeah, I mean, kind of. Not after high school. I was with my baby daddy until I was 22. Anyways, I do want to introduce Andrew Wilson. Welcome. Welcome. This has been an absolutely hectic show, Andrew. You've missed quite a bit, but welcome, man.
Hello, everybody. How are you doing? My name's Andrew. You know, I guess to the whatever podcast chat. Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there. Mass respect for you. And, yeah, thanks for having me. I did have another engagement.
this uh this father's day but that's taken care of so here i am on the show and looking forward to interlocking with you guys all right welcome andrew good to have you man good to have you so even even the the one who's been totally disrespectful the entire even you Even you, I'm happy to have a convo with you. I'm happy to talk with you, too. You see how charitable I am this Father's Day? Me, too. Did you get some intel, Andrew? Did the Crucible crew, did they give you a little intel?
Well, I listened a little bit as I was driving over to get some beer because I could tell I was going to need to fortify myself for this show. I did give a bit of a listen. But, I mean... There's been way, way worse women on the show, let's be honest. Thus far, I think it's all good, right? We're all having a good time. Let's get back to that. Let's get the energy back up. We'll get back to having a good time here. Sounds good. That sounds good.
i'm gonna get into some of my pre-show notes here uh i'm trying to see where we are i don't know if you need any intros from any of the girls but uh i'm trying to think where we left Anson Knowles donated $200. Happy Father's Day. Question for each lady. Is satisfaction or joy what your father feels about their little girl's relationship and or strumpet behavior? Pride in immutable characteristics is evil.
Wait, I'm a little confused. So what Anson is asking here, he's saying, do you think that your father feels pride and joy? uh at any of the person now i don't know uh is i don't have the background on any of you just yet uh but he's saying if if any of you uh kind of are involved in promiscuous behavior. Do you think that your parents feel joy about that, specifically your fathers?
I got something to say about that. You look like you had something to say about that. Anyway, go ahead. When I first started dancing, I don't dance anymore, obviously, but I work as a... You know, courtesan. But when my mother. Wait, hang on. I'm sorry. I just want to clarify very quickly. When you say courtesan, do you mean an escort? A legal prostitute at the Moonlight Bunny Ranch. It's legal. In Vegas?
Yeah, they have got one in Vegas, actually. Yeah, they do. Well, I mean, yours would have to be in Nevada, right? It is in Nevada. Yeah. Mine's in Carson City, but they used to have one in Vegas. Okay, so yeah, so Carson City, about 25 minutes away from Reno, roughly. Yeah, so pretty much when my dad...
My mom was mad that she found my W-2 when I was a dancer back in the day when I danced. She said, you aren't working at the new dance bar, are you? And I was like... well yeah I am and and my mom was kind of upset about it but when my dad he was like he gave me the fist pump and he's like you go girl and I'm like from like you know a dude that was in the military and stuff like I was like but but I'm gonna tell you this so
My middle name didn't yell. Hang on, hang on, hang on. Let's back up. And just so you guys know... If we're having a discussion back and forth, because I'm remoted in, when you're talking, if we're talking at the same time, I actually can't hear you, right? So I can only hear it one way. So if we can just talk one at a time, that'd be great. But backing up, I just want to make sure your dad found your W-2 that you're working as a...
I'm sorry, a prostitute, and he fist-bumped you? It wasn't the prostitute. I was a dancer at the time, but he said, you go, girl. Well, what kind of dancer? I was a nude dancer. Okay, but I mean, the delineation, I think...
That's kind of semantics, right? A lot of people, including myself, would consider stripping to be... prostitution it was yeah yeah it was it was true but he's like yeah he's like go girl and i was like oh my god i was it felt kind of just it felt good to me because i felt like
At the time, when I was a dancer, I tried to hide it. You know, I got a bunch of fake Red Bull shirts. So I would make fake Red Bull shirts. Because to be like, I was a promoter or something. And I'd put on these shirts and say I was going downtown. This is when I was like 22 years old. And I would come back with a shirt.
shirt on obviously i wasn't using it the whole night but um finally that's when my mom found out but when my dad said that i just i thought it was so funny and what'd your mom say my mom was mad because she was an ex-cop and she didn't like she didn't she didn't like She's fine.
With the Tantra, I don't know if she's fine with anything else, particularly as far as like the courtesan work goes. She's fine with that Tantra? What's the Tantra? So I'm a Tantra practitioner and I've been to many retreats. These are like holistic retreats where we... learn mind body soul and sexual uh and you know connection and it's like um
It's like esoteric sexuality essentially. She's fine with that. She's not really fine with like stuff that's like even girlfriend experience porn stars. She's kind of like borderline on that. but she's fine with the Tantra, but she's not fine with the others. So it's really interesting. I think it's because I had to get trained in it.
And she wants me to get trained in something. So she does, my mother does say to me, like, you know, I hope you're a smart girl. I hope you get trained in something. And I tell her, I enjoy holistic sexuality. I enjoy exploring with people. I feel like I'm a safe person. And I have been to many retreats. i've just been through a lot so i i know how people what happens at these retreats um at the retreat so we really kind of got to dive into ourself there's a lot of if you google
I'm trying to sit. Like, not a lot of them are filmed. They're not filmed, but I went to the International School of Temple Arts, and a lot of... Is this like teal swan stuff? This is... teal swan I like teal swan but but you know teal I you know I gotta but I mean is that it is teal swan ballpark it's like teal swan yes esoteric sexuality it is um kind of diving into yourself and channeling spirits in order to
do sex magic that kind of thing kind of but but but they'll rip you apart at these things like you'll be in tears by like day three they will just shred you to pieces and and and it has to because you have to break and like crack open in order to be able to understand the depths of someone's emotions so you have to be like
put through the paper shredder and and if you already a lot of these people were kind of grinded by life and then you get grinded by life even more when you go there because they they un they open i'm so sorry they open up the wounds again and yeah i mean but it's basically cult brain washing right you know there is that um okay so i actually have some some
Okay, so that is why I don't believe in communes and living on communes is because my mentor, she's passed away now, but her name was Salma Zadora, and she's a tantric sex guru. I'm familiar. Yeah, she grew up on... on one of those like kind of, you know, the Jim Jones, that whole thing. And I don't believe in the problem with some spiritual... communities that I have is is the like you said with the brainwashing it's so in spiritual communities you can't fight
You can't like to say, oh, you're a jerk. You're a bitch. You can't say that. So what they do is they start to, oh, your vision might not be good today. Oh my gosh, you might not be hearing me correctly. The gaslighting is big. So you've got to be really in tune. And when you call somebody out on that. They will block you. Like I was actually blocked by a spiritual like person who I followed with over a million followers and I was blocked by her because I called her out on it.
Because they were questioned. They said, oh, I think you just need to listen to me again. So why do you participate in these things? So there's some things I believe in, and then there's some things I don't. And that's why I don't completely live on a commune. I don't live that life. Because even my spiritual teacher, Aaron Kleinerman, who was the, he was a war vet and he went into the Tantra and became a Tantra practitioner.
He didn't agree with some of that stuff too. There's certain great things about Tantra, but the community and how they interpret it. there are those there could be that weirdness that goes on and is there is there a lot of sex that's going on at these things there there is um as far as not not like sex but it's like there is talk about sex there's talk about like you know I guess, how you open yourself up to the world, how you open yourself up to others. Everything has to be consensual.
For me, I didn't have sex at any of these, but I've heard at other retreats, not at the ones that I went to, that there were sex that goes down, and I didn't go to those, but I have heard that. I'm very selective with the teachers. Yeah, I get it. I just want to make sure that I'm clear because I'm kind of coming into the conversation late. But you are right. It's very culty.
It's very culty. There's no ifs, ands, or buts about it. Tons of people get damaged from these sorts of retreats and speak out about it for years afterwards. Some can, yes. There's entire swaths of Teal Swans following. who've broken off and talked about the horrors that go on inside of these kind of sexual-based retreats. So I guess my overarching question is, and think about it for a second before you answer.
Do you think that maybe the reason you're interested in those, in those cult-like retreats, the sex retreats, is because they're actually less judgmental than the population at large about your profession? I think that I've been devious. I think sex is something that isn't new to me. I've known this like my entirety of my life. And I think that the retreats, it's almost like.
a moth to a light you know like i go and i i just feel like in my soul that it is right for me um but i i know when something is wrong i know when boundaries get pushed and that's when i'm not cool with i
respect everyone's boundaries that i've been with i would never run one of those retreats because i feel like that would be one of the most difficult jobs in the world i don't know how my teachers do it the ones that i have are the ones that i really get paid a lot of money that's how they do it they do they do and and they
the ones that i have are very good and i would honestly like on god would not recommend anybody else than the ones that i saw because i don't trust anyone else but the ones i saw Okay, so I think I got a bit about your background now and kind of understand where it is that you're at and where it is that you're coming from. Brian, if you want to continue with your questions on the backgrounds.
Yeah, so we are going to get into some of the pre-show topics here. We have a decent amount to get through. Just trying to, a couple of no-shows. I'm going to skip that. I do want to, I kind of actually want, now that you're here, Andrew, I kind of want to get into some of our more heated questions, heated conversation topics. So...
I don't think we'll debate it, but I do actually want to get answers. So we'll do the bear thing. We're not going to really debate it much, but I always like to at least get the answers. So starting with you, would you rather... Come across a random man or a random bear in the woods. I'm going to go man. I don't even know. You haven't heard this? No, I have. I've thought about it. I think both can bring danger. If you had to pick one. Yeah, if you had to pick one.
You know, there was a button, there was a magic button, and you had to select one. One was bear, one was man. Which one do you think you would press? I'd probably say bear. Bear? Why's that? Um... I just feel like, you know, it's just like easier to kind of get them to go away. It's easier to get a bear to go away? I mean, yeah. I mean, I just feel like men.
Are very unpredictable. Aren't wild animals unpredictable? I can predict that the bear is going to kill me. Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm saying, y'all. Like, I don't know. But if you're going to ask me to choose one, I'm probably going to say bear. We'll get everybody's answers. Go ahead. So I picked the bear last time, and I picked the bear this time. Okay, that's it. Okay, what about you? Man. Wait, what did you pick last time? I picked the bear.
Yeah. Okay, what do you pick? I pick the man. Yeah, random man for sure. We do need to wait until she's back, the one who's gone from the table. To get her answer, those of you who said bear, so you said bear, you said bear. Why bear? So I picked bear. So I've noticed.
I've done some self-reflection since then and just recently. I've had a lot of negative experiences with men, but it seems like the more positive experiences that I have with men and the more... like safety that i feel i might be inclined to pick the man and i'm starting to wonder is just did i just get bad luck of the draw like in a sense like in the past and that's why my judgment is skewed because that's the way i choose bear because of that is that a safe thing for me to do or it
if some people have really bad things happen to them should they just kind of look at things as a whole and be like look you might have had like 10 bad things happen to you but things could change so i don't know why do you pick bear sorry um I think I would pick, well, I know I would pick the bear just because I'd say both have primal instincts, but overall a bear would be more predictable considering the fact that it is a primal animal and less intelligent than a man.
So when you say the bear would be more predictable, you mean you could more predictably imagine it attacking you compared to a man? Well, the bear, say both are like... per se hostile, then if the bear's hostile... That's not... Okay, that's not the question. You don't know if the random man's hostile. You don't know if the bear's hostile. They could be. They might not be. Well, if the man's hostile, then... No, no, no, no. You're taking the chance.
That's less predictable. I'm saying if you know that, like, say, like, if you're stuck in the forest with a man and a bear, if the bear gets provoked, what's it going to do? Attack you. If the man gets provoked, you don't know what the fuck the man's going to do. So I'm saying the bear, like, you know what it's going to do if it gets provoked. Let me ask you a question, though. You mentioned provoked. If I put both of them, like, just a random man and a random bear in this situation, I think...
Actually, if you provoke a bear versus you provoke some nerdy gamer guy who would never hurt a fly, you could probably walk up to a lot of dudes and literally poke them. And they would not do anything to you. Do you think you would have that same experience with men? Or sorry, excuse me, with bears? Well, the bear would definitely try to eat you. And you don't know if the random man in the forest is going to be a nerdy gamer.
I would argue you could actually do, hold on, I would argue you could actually do this social experiment and you could actually go out into the street and just approach a random man and you could even, you could even like... Like, poke him kind of annoyingly. Poke him in the shoulder. You don't know what they're going to do. He can't eat you alive. Well, here's the thing, though, is, I mean, the...
But, I mean, he's agreeing, right? He's saying, you're right. You don't know what to do. But let us assume for a second that you had 20 men and 20 random bears. If you went and poked the 20 men in the chest like this... versus poking 20 bears in the chest like this, which one do you think would be more likely to, I don't know, eat your face? Well, I don't know. I mean, the bear would be more likely to eat your face, but you don't know if the man like...
That's the thing. You don't know what he has on him. No, I agree. You don't know. The man could freak out, right? He could freak out. He could do horrible things. But which one do you think is more likely?
to freak out if you walk over and start poking them in the chest? A random man or a random bear? Well, the bear would definitely eat your face, but you know for a fact that the bear would eat your face. That's predictable. That's what I'm saying. The whole point of my entire, I guess, opinion on this factor is that...
the bear would in fact eat your face. So you'd rather die because it's guaranteed you're going to die? So you'd rather predictably die than just have a man look at you like the fuck are you doing? You guys aren't understanding what she's saying. She's just trying to word it where she wants to hate men so badly.
It just doesn't make sense. We try to make it make sense. Why do I hate men? We do need to get her response from this. So the question is, would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in the woods? Oh.
I mean, why are you in the woods as a man? Okay, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Because you guys are incapable of engaging with a hypothetical. No, no, no. I'm going to answer the question. Here's the scenario. There is no... motivation there you're literally you press there's a magic wand yeah and a random man in the united states a totally random man gets dropped into the woods so do you and you guys are going to cross paths
I'd rather cross paths with a man than a bear, to be honest, because maybe you can help me get the hell out of these woods. A bear's not going to be able to help me. Okay, so in this scenario, you pick...
I'm picking a man, I think. I have a series. But I just feel like, you know, if I'm walking through the woods and then I just randomly see a man, I mean, let's run like a walking trail, but if I'm like lost in the woods and there's just a random man in the woods, I'll be kind of creeped out. It's not really the question.
Well, if you were lost in the woods and you came across a random man in the woods. Well, I mean, I'd be like, I'm lost. But I'd be like, what are you doing? I guess you're right. You're right. I mean, wouldn't you be like, I'm lost. Can you help me? You're right. You're right. I'd be like, not like, what are you doing?
you doing here? I'd be like, help me. Yeah, help, right? You'd be like, help, I'm lost in these fucking woods, this sucks. I have a question. You switched to man, right? Yeah, I switched to man. Okay. Andrew, you're going to have a back and forth, I think, with her. Yeah, well, I wanted to ask. So I just want to make sure because I think I understand why a lot of women pick the bear.
And I think that what you're trying to say is it's due to the predictable nature of bears. They're easier to predict. Men can do much more unpredictable things. And they have kind of the strength and will. in order to have more perverse actions than the bear yes okay so you kind of want us to see it from your angle so let me ask a counter question so you can see it from our angle and i'd like an honest answer from everybody
Do you think a man would rather tell his feelings to a woman or a tree? A tree, probably. Hang on, hang on. Going around the table. Would a man rather tell his feelings to a woman or a tree? Definitely a woman. A tree. A tree. I feel like it depends on the situation, but I guess a tree. I feel like he wants to tell it to a woman, but he feel like he can't, so he'd rather just go talk to a tree. I agree. That's good. A tree.
Probably a tree. Well, then, if the social commentary is that we need to be looking at it from your end, that you perceive men as being kind of unpredictable and dangerous in comparison to... This massive wild animal, which is known for mauling random people.
Then shouldn't you also take into account and take responsibility on the woman's end for the fact that men can't even talk to you or discuss with you how we feel about anything and would rather tell it to an inanimate object than you? Yes, and I have a quick question about that. that that this for the table or whatever.
My question is this. How come the idea of 20 men finding them in the forest compared to a bear sounds safer than me, than me with one man? How come that is? But I mean, I could engage with you on it, but why would I tell you how I felt about it? I'd rather...
talk to a fucking tree right and this is this is the whole point the whole point is is that you know i would rather open up about my feelings to a tree than open up about my feelings to you by your own admission and yet the social commentary is only one-dimensional where you say But how come men won't take responsibility for how we feel about them? Well, how come you won't see it from our angle that as we're having this discussion...
I would probably prefer to take a random inanimate object, in this case a tree, and open up about my feelings to the tree than you. And you know it's true. Well, I mean, like, I also... Isn't that crazy? Like, where's the responsibility from the other direction? It's crazy, but y'all set that up for yourselves. I admit it is a bit...
It is a bit outlandish in a sense because it's like, I mean, I'm thinking if I were to encounter 20 men or a bear, I would feel safer with the 20 men than the one man. I don't know. Maybe it's, is it because you have bad experience with one man? I never had a bad experience with 20 men. Is that, is that it? Is that just the bias? Like the confirmation? No, no, no, no. Now listen. So what we're looking at is we're looking at, um, kind of a, a plural, a plural meaning here.
From the woman's perspective, so I'm taking myself out of my shoes, trying to put myself into the shoes of you. You say, listen, I'd much rather come across a random bear than a man. Because I can ascribe all of these motivations onto a random man of things that they could do to me which are sick and twisted and dark and horrible. And, you know, I can maybe at least predict a bear. And it's like...
Men, from a woman's perspective, like, I don't understand why men don't get this. Only a female could be stupid enough to pick a wild animal that will kill them over a grown man who can save her life. There is a reason no good man wants these women. Damn. All right. Grid won motorsports. There he is. Coming in. Grid won the legend himself. Actually, I do have a point to make. Are you a good man? Imagine being two. So anyway, so back to this just real quick, this exchange.
What we're looking at is the duality here. If I'm taking myself out of my shoes and I'm putting myself in your shoes, I'm trying to see it from your angle. Because to me it's insane, right? A woman saying, I'd rather have a random... But I'm going, okay.
this is the problem with the social commentary from the female perspective we're not listening to the women and how they feel about us but then when i bring up the tree you kind of instantly are like yeah of course a tree but then don't give a right you're just like well and I don't care if they would prefer to talk to a tree. We have done nothing. We're perfect. If they have to go talk to a tree, that's also Min's fault. Can I ask you a question? Go ahead. Why do you think...
Men can't express their feelings women or to anybody honestly because y'all don't give a fuck Yeah, because you don't care and you don't so the thing is if you don't if you don't response Yeah, so I'm gonna I'm gonna answer your question Right. If you don't give a shit and you don't.
right and this is why you know that no not and we don't not and we don't who said we don't give a shit you did because you said that you know that men would rather open up to a tree than you i'm so sorry but me saying that i know men would rather open up to a tree does not mean that I don't give a shit about what a man says.
Why would they prefer to open up to a tree than you? Probably because of the system men have set up for themselves. It's men's fault that they would rather talk to a tree. Probably because of the system. Right, so it's men's fault that they would rather talk to a tree. Women have no accountability at all, right? It actually is.
Yeah, right, exactly. That's the whole point of the duality. The reason we don't give a shit about the absurd fucking answer of women who go, I'd rather fight a bear in the woods. Even though none of you ever experienced a fucking random bear in the woods. You have no idea what that's like. I'm from Wisconsin. What happened with you and the bear in the woods? Tell me. Tell me a story about you and the bear in the woods. I stood still and it was predictable and it went away. I stood still.
I could predict what the bear would do when I would stand still and hide. This actually happens? Yes. Where? I'm from California. I've been to Tahoe multiple of times. So up in Tahoe, what type of bear came around you? A black bear. You just stood still and it walked off. Yep. because bears guess what they're predictable men aren't
Not bears, especially in Tahoe, are not predictable. Especially because they eat human garbage and things like this. People out there feed them. It's a massive problem. They're usually in those areas ultra-violent because they have no fear of humans. Totally un- Unpredictable, but the point is is that we don't the reason that we don't give a shit about the social commentary on this We don't care to see it from a woman's perspective
But don't you men understand why it is that you're so dangerous? It's because when I bring up a counter example of the tree, you go, well, that's also men's fault. It is. It literally is your fault. You guys have set up this system for yourselves. Wait, what system? what do you mean what system like men telling men telling their sons men telling their sons you know you can't cry you can't express this you can't express that be tough
Y'all set that shit up. So hold on. Abigail, you respond. Then you have something. Go ahead. Okay. I would say the reason sons are raised to suck it up is you asked him. Exactly. This is just an example. You asked. Long Paladins donated $200. Maybe the bear was at the funeral? Could be. Y'all making some money. You asked him why he thinks that...
men would pick the tree. And he answered and he answered with the same answer. And you said, okay, give me an actual good answer. So they elaborated on how they feel on the subject. And you started yelling. I never asked why. I wouldn't want to share my feelings with that. Can you be straight? Just be straight on. Be straight on. Turn the microphone. You're hiding behind the mic.
Scoot it to the edge. Just scoot it to the edge of the table. Scoot the mic to the edge of the table. Yeah, the reason he's asking that, from the audience perspective. If your mouth isn't actually close to the mic when you're speaking, nobody can hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying. I didn't know my mic was far away. I apologize. Yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, it happens all the time because you're in the conversation.
And it's easy for people to shift. That's how body language works, all that stuff. Yeah, no, my bad. Yeah, no big deal. But, um, so... If he expressed to Brian here why he would rather talk to a tree than a woman, Brian would understand. I doubt he'd talk over him or say that's not a good enough answer. He expressed those feelings to you, you talked over him, you said it wasn't a good enough answer. But you're also saying...
you responded that way and nobody would want to share their feelings with that. That's just objectively true. You responded that way and you're also blaming men for not wanting to share their feelings with women. If I'm... Correct me if I'm wrong, but all they said is they would rather talk to a tree. And that was just the answer. You're actually interrupting me and you're just talking to me about interrupting you. I'm so glad I'm not dating donated $200.
Big stresses that I can only solve must be internalized and dealt with. Saving the stress and worry from a spouse. Whom looks up to me for guidance and leadership. Amen. I'm talking to a fucking tree 100%. Yo, I'm so glad. Hey, thank you for the TTS, man. Also, kill of cereal. Sorry if I was a little tilted earlier on if you're still watching. It was just kind of a...
hectic moment, but I'm so glad I'm not dating. He was waiting for me to come on and wish me happy Father's Day. That's all. I'm not even sure if he... He's still in the chat, but I'm so glad I'm not dating. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Go ahead with your... I was just saying they told me that they would rather speak to a tree, and they said, oh, why is that? And I just said, well, y'all set that system up.
That's all I said. Well, no, actually the opposite happened. What happened is we asked you, what do you think men would rather do? Talk to open up to a woman or open up to a tree? And you said tree to a tree.
Right, so this was not us juxtaposing a position onto you. This was you, rather, telling us your position. And then you guys agreed that you would rather talk to a tree. Right, why? Yeah, and I said, so why? Why would you rather talk to a tree? Okay, hold on, hold on. Can you just straighten up?
Here, look. Straighten up. Scoot the mic this way. Scoot it to the very edge of the table. Because what you end up doing is you're hiding behind the microphone. So just speak straight into the microphone. So I have really bad posture. It's okay. Go ahead.
So, yeah, I was just saying, like, why would men rather talk to a tree? Probably because from the age of like two, they were told that they can't express their emotions. They can't feel this. They can't feel that. They can't cry. They need to toughen up. Yeah. What I'm going based off of is when you said.
You asked them, why do you guys think women would rather, or men would rather talk to a tree? And they said, because women don't care. And you said, give me an actual good answer. That was both of their answers, and you didn't like their answer. That was them expressing how they feel, and you didn't like it.
Why do men feel like women don't care? I'm happy to engage with her answer because I think it's actually interesting and rather telling. It's the man's fault that he would rather do that. But this is the duality that I'm trying to point out.
the duality is this the reason that you think that men are so unpredictable you don't know what they're going to do this and that is it's precisely because some men cannot control their emotions because they don't have good impulse control because they do act out and when they do act out they do a lot of damage because of their lack of emotional control and yet here you are saying
If only men had less of this emotional control could open up to us, wouldn't that be actually counterproductive to your position of the bear, though? I think opening up to a part of empathy, like, on a level of empathy. Nick. I, well, okay. I'm willing to challenge my own delusion. I will say this. I'm willing to challenge my. Hold on. I'm sorry. I wasn't this directed at you. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah. So you're kind of. What did you say?
He was directing all these towards you. You didn't hear what he was saying? None of it. No. Fix what? Okay, well then I'll just have the conversation with the person who's listening to what I'm actually saying. So anyway, back to where we're at. Wait, you know what? Hold on. I want to tune into something that actually just occurred. Andrew, the thing that you brought up was, do you think a man would rather share his feelings to a woman or a tree
She wasn't listening to anything. Even though you've been perfectly respectful, Andrew, you've been perfectly polite. She intentionally just refused to even hear what you had to say and hear how you felt and hear how you thought about...
The conversation at hand. She's literally just proved your point. I'm just going to say it wasn't intentional. It's also your fault, Andrew. It's my fault. You're speaking on me, so can I say something? Go ahead. It wasn't intentional. I genuinely just spaced out. You guys, you literally asked them a question. Which is why I would rather share my feelings with a tree. What would be the difference if I had shared my feelings with you? I've shared feelings with men before and they've spaced out.
Andrew, Andrew, dude. I've shared my feelings with men before and they've spaced out, okay? ADHD is a thing, honey. Learn about it. Can I say something? I said ADHD is a thing, honey. Learn about it. Hold on. Well, I mean... Learn about it. Any gender can have it. Any sex can have it. Okay? What's your ADHD? Yes, dude. You spaced out.
Like, hello? I'm sorry. I didn't hear what you said. My ADHD was going. Okay, and that's fair. And that's fair. Okay, a couple things here. Wait, wait, what? I'm sorry. I can't pay attention to a word you're saying because my ADHD is going. That's fair. But anyway, back to this. Wait, wait, wait. I've got to ask. Wait, hold on.
Hold on, hold on, hold on. Okay, can you just scoot your mic to the edge of the table? My mouth is literally an inch away from this microphone. I don't know, fix your posture. I don't want to. My mouth is literally so close to this microphone. No, but I'm saying you can scoot the mic back.
And then you move your head back. But I'd rather just sit like this. Like I'm more comfortable like this. All right, whatever. I'm not going to deal with this right now. Go ahead with your point. Okay, my point is it is like in our society, women do find emotional men who talk about their feelings less attractive and less masculine. And so they really...
Don't want to be with them. So men will mask those feelings because women don't want to be with a whiny guy. Who said that? I have a couple of things on this whole vulnerability shit too. Um, no, but who said that? It's not what you say. It's actions. People, women will leave emotional men. They just will.
You see it said I mean, I don't know. I feel like it I don't think that's true. I don't think it's a gender thing Okay, first of all, I mean, it's it's pretty it's pretty observable must be by your own standard because you say that men are too stoic I can ask a couple of clarifying questions on this. First off, men and women tend to try to resolve problems in different ways. Typically, men don't like to talk.
about our problems. We either want solutions or we're just going to accept it and move on. Now, I do want to try to look at this from a dating lens here. So when it comes to this vulnerability thing, do you guys... Just show of hands. Do you prefer a confident guy or a guy, like if a guy's approaching you, do you prefer him to be confident or would you prefer him to be like kind of nervous and shy and shaky? So raise your hand if you prefer confident.
Raise them high. Raise them high, please. You prefer confident guys. Okay, so you and you prefer nervous, shy, shaky dudes. I don't prefer like... Honestly, anything, because, like, if someone comes up to me, I'm not going to judge them for how they approach me. Really? You're not going to? No. So your confidence is not an attraction trigger for you?
Confidence is attractive, but I've been with someone who I was very happy with. He was a dope guy, and he was emotional. Oh, sorry. Okay, if given the option... Oh, what do you want to hear? It might genuinely be her answer, but she didn't really like, I don't know if she fully understood the question. So maybe not. Would you prefer a guy to step to you in a confident manner or a guy who's like.
shaky, a little nervous, eye contact's not great. He can be nervous. So if he's nervous, does that make him emotional? Well, we're talking about vulnerability here. So I do think that that would be the trigger, right? If you're looking for confidence or things which you would gauge as confidence in men, I think that the metrics are somewhat similar between men and women for how they judge confidence. And I think one of those standards is going to be emotional control.
So if a person, in other words, if a fire starts in your kitchen and a guy starts running around and screaming just like you do, you would say that that's not a sign of confidence nor competence, right? Yeah, so that would be this kind of lack of emotional control.
under adversarial conditions seems like that would be tied in with confidence and competence. Well, I feel like a lack of emotional control doesn't, like, I mean, like, people can have lack of emotional control and completely fake being confident. Like, that's... Yes, that's true. But what's interesting is that that's why when adversarial positions are pushed on them, you start to see whether or not that's a facade or it isn't a facade. That's one of the reasons that women shit test, right?
Because they're trying to kind of push that and see if this guy actually is giving you a facade or if it's the real him. Well, what I've noticed a lot is that you've made a general stereotype about women, just saying woman this, woman that, when you've made an assumption about one woman at the table. Not all of us don't care. Not all of us would...
Rather a man speak to a tree than us like genuinely like as me like I try to be the best person that I could possibly be if someone needs to talk to me I'm not gonna judge them for it if someone walks up Yeah, but actually the the kind of the fallacy here fallacious argumentations on your behalf because what you're doing is taking generalized statement saying but not me though but it's not it's not it's not mapped to you specifically so if i say for instance most women hang on hang on
If I say most women like tall men, and you go, but I don't like tall men, though. That's a non-secret. It has nothing to do with what I'm saying. It would not change the fact that most women do, even if you don't.
but it does change an opinion well i'm just saying that not that you're asking for the same opinion like i have a different one she's gonna have a different one they're gonna have different ones like everyone like you can't make a generalized sorry i'm not talking you can't make really a generalized statement based off of one woman like
And we're not. We're not doing that, though. Well, you keep saying women this, women that. Yeah, I know. I'm making a generalized statement based on what we see in observations in society. Not that every specific woman...
follows these same criteria. I'm sure there's plenty of women who like short guys. I haven't met very many of them, but I'm sure that they're out there. But in general, but hang on, but in general, they don't seem to like short was it not a generalized statement when you said women don't care when men speak about their feelings that's a generalized statement that brings well no that was applied at the micro not the macro because every woman at the table said that they know that
men would prefer to talk to a tree rather than what does that have to do with a woman that's society's arms that's not it can be gender-based but also your objection to generalize your you object to generalizations is that your point Not necessarily. I would say that...
Some men would prefer to talk to a tree, but that's just because of society. That's not because of women or men. It's not because of gender. That's because of how society has trained them to think. I would rather talk to a tree than anyone. It's not a thing about gender.
If that's true, I think we can test and see if that's true by asking a follow-up question. Let's just ask a basic follow-up question. Do you think that men are more likely to open up to their feelings to women or to other men? Probably to other men.
Honestly, it depends on the type because I feel like with my... Just in general, in general. Everything depends. Well, it depends because you talk about different stuff with like... Well, yeah, because the world isn't black and white, dude. There's layers to everything. There's generalizations you can make. There's layers to everything. I have a comment. I agree. There's layers to everything. But if we were to say that 51% would be most...
And 49% would be not most. Would you say that most men would prefer to talk to other men about their feelings or would prefer to talk to women about their feelings? From what I've noticed, actually, women, like most of... Most of my guy friends, at least, they've talked about it. And I've talked about this with my parents as well, including my dad and my stepdad. And they're like, oh, like...
There's just women and men have a different relationship. Then why in the world would you take the position that they would rather talk to a tree about their feelings than you if you think most of them would prefer to talk to women? Over over men that makes no sense. It's absurd because first it was trees and men and now it's women and men So what are we talking about? Yeah, but if your position is Do you think that a man would rather talk to a tree?
about their feelings than talk to a woman. That's what your actual position is. Then why then would you say that you think that men would prefer to talk? to women about their feelings. I feel like anyone would rather talk to a tree than another human being. It's easier to open up, honestly. You think, so, okay, so I see. So you think that all people would rather talk to a tree about their feelings? Not all people, but, like, coming from, I don't know, everyone here, I don't know what you guys...
rather open up to someone or like talk to a tree because the tree's not going to judge you so then let me so that we can just clear this up really fast we can clear it up super quick we can totally clear this up in one second Going around with just a quick question. Do you think then, going around the table one more time, that men would rather open up about their feelings to women or to other men? Show of hands. Can you take her phone? Sorry.
Yeah, sorry. Do you think men would prefer to open up to other men about their feelings or to women about their feelings? Honestly, women. Going around the table. I'm still saying women. I'm going to say women. I say women, and I have some interesting statistics on that. Okay. Hold on. Keep going. Keep going. Men probably? I don't know. Probably women.
If they're married women, but men, usually friends? Probably men because they can relate to what they're saying. Women usually aren't able to. Andrew, I do want to move this on pretty soon here, but do you want to... Finish up? No, I'm just going to let that stand. Okay. Now, last thing on the bear thing. I do actually want to ask the question. So...
What percentage of men, those of you who answered there, what percentage of men do you think in the circumstances provided would choose to victimize you? Starting with you. Go ahead. What percentage of men? Right, because if we're in the United States, it's a random man. That's half the population.
I don't know. How much is that? 160 million men? You're asking what percentage of them would choose to victimize me? So you picked the bear over the man. So you must have done some sort of calculus where you feel that the risk... That's okay. You feel the risk is greater with a man compared to a bear. So you must have some sort of determination when it comes to risk assessment. So if you had to assign a percentage.
Which men would choose to attack you, I guess? Which type of men? No, no, no, no. What percentage of men? All men would attack you. I mean, I feel like that's kind of hard to answer. I'm just going to piggyback off of what she said.
which is that bears are predictable. You know that their main... But I'm asking you a question, so this... I'm getting to the answer. Okay, go ahead. Bears' main... like a bear we know their main goal is to kill us right whatever they want to attack our face how you guys are saying whatever talks about that yep men we don't know they have like a plethora of things they could do sure
Manipulation could be a part of it. They could be like, oh, I'm going to take you home. Don't even worry. And then boom, they kill you. And so that's why I feel like it's a higher percentage with men versus bears. Because we know what to do in the situation with a bear. Most people have been, I don't know if most people have, but I've been taught what to do in the situation with a bear. With men, am I not speaking into it? You're like over here. Is it like only in the center? You just...
I'm like actually so confused. Okay, think of the center of your mouth. The center of your mouth needs to be center with the microphone. Okay, so the sides don't count. I can't talk into the sides. Center of the microphone. Okay, gotcha. Center. Yeah, there's a plethora of things men can do. So can you answer the question, though? What person?
Yeah. I just guesstimate. I acknowledge, yes, a man could do all sorts of things. So I'm going to say a higher percentage. I don't fucking know the percentage, but I'm going to say it's higher. What, like 50, 75? Do you think it's a majority of men? So more than 51%. Yes. Okay. Do you want to actually give us a range? Do you think it's 60? Do you think it's 70? Do you think it's 80? I don't know. I just think it's a lot of men.
Okay, so do you want to actually just throw a percentage out there? No. Well, you already said it's over 51, so just throw a percentage out. I just don't know the percentage. I just know it's like higher than half. More than half? Yeah. Per se, we could, like, 51%. Sure, 51%. Okay. You said bear, correct? Yes. What percentage of men do you think would attack you in these circumstances? Based on my life, based on my track record, 10%.
Honestly, I agree. Again, from my personal record, I feel like 51% from my personal statistics, not from anyone else's. Your personal statistics? Like from what's happened to me in my life, not anyone else's. Okay. So you have, like, do you have any siblings? Male siblings? My brother. Father. Trans. Oh, yeah, no, I have a stepdad and a dad, uncles. Okay. And, like, all the men, so you're basically, the men that you know in your life, 51% of them would victimize a woman in these circumstances?
I wouldn't say the men in my life, but men... So you're just a better judge of character than the general population? Oh, no, no, no, not at all. Like, again, from my, like, and I'm not speaking for everyone else. Everyone has their own stuff. Like, I don't hate men. Like, I'm just saying from my personal life. I love my steps. So in your personal life, what's the percentage? I'd say. 51%.
No, of the men that you know in your personal life. Oh, that are right now? That you know, yeah. Right now, none of them because I don't need those people in my life if they're going to victimize me and do this bad shit to me. There's no reason to have them in my life. So every man that's in my life right now is...
They're cool. I don't have nothing but respect for them. Including my father and my dad. Who else said bear? Did anybody over here say bear? No. Okay. So just to be clear, you guys think that... 80 million men in the united states would choose to attack a woman in these circumstances just so i have that understanding correct i think it's hard to put a number on this how is it hard
I just think it really just kind of depends. I don't know if you put a bunch of men in, say, a purge night where everything is legal, do you think that 51% of men would go nuts or not? That's just... I'm not entirely familiar with that movie. I think I have a general... Basically, they kill and all the crimes are legal. Everything's legal, basically. All the crimes are legal.
Even in that movie, it wasn't that high. Murder and stuff like that. Even in the movie, it wasn't that high. Even in the movie, not that many people participated in The Purge. That's an insane number. That's a fantasy. actually using that as an example 51 percent of men would do that why wouldn't they just enslave all women then i don't know i mean that's like that's like going back to the movie the midwife or what's it called the midwife or whatever but like that's
Why are we talking about movies? Movies are not real life. It was a hypothetical. No, I'm saying hypothetically, if you got a real life purge, like if everyone in this room, if we started a purge, I think that 51% of men would like, I don't know. What percentage of women? I'd say, I don't know. 99% of women are good. Minimum 51% of men are bad. No, I'd say like, I mean, it's obviously going to be a large amount because like both genders obviously like.
have issues, but statistically more crimes are committed by men. What percentage of women in the purge situation? I mean, that's true, but it's such a tiny... Do you realize that the amount of violent crime perpetrated by men... As a whole, it's still very, very small. Most men are not out committing violent crime. Almost no man, in fact.
Well, almost no man, but if you think that the repercussions were taken away, could you please repeat that? A small percentage of society which ever commits violent crimes, teeny tiny percentage. I mean, yeah. You're saying most of them are not men who are committing these crimes? No, that's not what I said. I said even if more men commit crimes than women, it's still a small percentage of men overall who commit crimes.
No, but are we speaking like, say, again, there's repercussions. Say the repercussions are taken away. Do you think that that would make more men act out? Are they not acting out like that because it's against their morals? Yeah, I think that more women would act out as well.
I'm not saying that's wrong. I just think statistically, according to all of that, I don't want to mention certain topics on here, but more, and I'm not saying it doesn't happen with women, but statistically, more men do crimes like that. And I'm not saying, like, because I hate men or anything. Like, it's literally just as stiff as that. But, I mean, there's no disagreement that more men commit.
violent crimes than women. Nobody's disagreeing that that's true. Oh, no, I know. It's this scale in which you believe it's true that we're questioning. Well, what was your statement? That's 51%, which means women could be like 49%. Was that... Like, in the grand scheme of things, men commit a small amount of crimes. Yeah. A man in the forest is trying to get away from women and have no interest in hurting you. Fucking professional victims on this show.
Get some fucking help. Thanks for the $200. Nah, that's real sad. I'm going to let a couple. Pay $200 to say that. I need to read two chats. Abigail, you want to try to? Hold on. Nick, hide it. Hide it. Hide it. Hide it, please. Can you read it? I'll read it. I'll read it. Thank you. Okay, how is the pink shirt girl demanding so much, but all she has is used blank. What's up with the Mexican chick? Okay, I'm not going to read. I'm not reading the rest of that, bro. You fucking wild, dude. What?
Law Paladins, women want men to be emotional but yet if Brian gets emotional about being lied to and manipulated, the entire panel jumps on him and attacked him for being emotional.
I don't think he was being emotional. No one attacked him for being emotional. It's a podcast. He can share his opinion. That's what a podcast is. Yeah. That's a good point, Paladins. I was kind of... it's kind of noticing that like when i got tilted like do you see the sort of like how do i explain it when i was tilted there's almost this sort of like goodbye woke black man wait hold on let me please let me finish uh
When I got tilted, there was this sort of like malevolent sort of satisfaction like I've gotten under his skin. Like she enjoyed kind of...
Getting me a little riled up. I feel like you enjoy riling them up as well. I don't enjoy riling people up. I prefer just having calm, level-headed conversations. This is gaslighting right here. I feel like you've been talking very... rudely like even just oh speaking the microphone i mean how is that rude how is it rude to say that well it's it's not it's not that it's rude it's your um the tone in your voice that you're using and
If I have to remind somebody seven times. Yeah, but you did it to me. Let me ask you a question. You did it to me and you didn't have to remind me seven times and you gave me a rude tone of voice, which I don't care. Before the show, did I instruct you politely to speak into the microphone?
I instructed everybody. Sure, but you don't have to be rude about it. You've got to remind somebody one time. And I don't even think it was about the microphone. It's your little comments like, oh, these girls can't even comprehend hypotheticals. You can actually comprehend a hypothetical. Can you even pronounce it? Hypothetical? Go ahead. No. You actually couldn't comprehend a hypothetical when she brought up.
the purge movie you were like why are we talking about movies that was a hypothetical you're out here saying we can't comprehend hypotheticals that's rude you're making all these little side comments sorry well no that actually wasn't a hypothetical so she was what she was doing was taking an event a placed event and then making a creative analogy
It wasn't actually a hypothetical. She wasn't asking if you were to step in. I'm so sorry to interrupt you, Andrew. Also, you're commenting about me. Stop. Let me finish. I'm sorry. I'm going to have to interrupt you. No, you're not going to have to interrupt him. Go ahead, Andrew.
Yeah, well, I'm just saying that that wasn't actually a hypothetical. She was trying to draw statistics from something which is observable that she has seen before. There wasn't a question which was involved that would have made that a hypothetical.
Okay, great. Thank you. You're welcome. You telling me... Oh, can you even... pronounce the word hypothetical that's a rude comment right there like you know what you're doing you're trying to rile this entire show because you've been sassy dude i am i don't know how you like can't even like see that for yourself like truly it actually is boggling my mind and i'm honestly concerned
that you can't understand how you have been. And you can't understand how to speak into the microphone. See, and there he goes again. I've literally told you. There you go again. Multiple times. Oh my God. Is that really our biggest issue here? I feel like you're our biggest issue here. Or you could just do it. Or is this really me speaking into the microphone? Our biggest issue here? You could just do it. I'm doing it right now, dude. You've now corrected it. Go ahead with your point.
see there you go like you can't even like i'm telling you to finish your point you can no you're not telling me to finish my point you can't even converse with me on important things you just like to point out oh look at you cool cool cool like you don't even know how to like have an actual conversation when a woman is bringing up
point that's actually correct what's your point my point is that you've been just as rude as i have been and when i say that you're just like oh can you even speak into a mic yeah but you started it you started it you started it I started. I mean, yeah, you started it. You're being a brat. Come on. Let's be real. You were being a brat. You know, you were being a brat. No, he was asking ridiculous questions. Oh, I.
I think I can definitely have an attitude when necessary. You were asking ridiculous questions. You were prying her about her friend's passing. I think that's rude and disrespectful. And I called you out on it. And then suddenly you have a problem with that. You called me an asshole, actually. Are you doing call-out culture now? He's doing call-out culture, you fucking bimbo. Like, hello? That's himbo to you. All right. Himbo. My bad. Himbo. That's himbo. Now, notice I didn't insult you at all.
I'm going to just have to call you a bimbo. I'm so sorry. Remember how I never insulted you, but you insulted me? That's exactly how it started with Brian, too, because you're a brat and you can't control your emotions. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Do you have kids? Got you. Do you talk to your children like this? Do I call them brats? Do I call them brats when they're being brats?
no i mean like just like the like the nagging and like the name calling and just like and the passive it's just funny because i'm watching a grown man like now wait wait wait did i call anybody a name yes hello yeah after after hang on after what After you called me a himbo. You called me a brat first. Then I called you a bimbo, honey. No, no, no. No, you called him a himbo. You called me a himbo. I said you're a brat. You said it first.
I thought you said that you were being a brat, and that's why. No, no, I thought you said she was being a brat because you were saying that about what their whole thing was. But I didn't call her a brat. And then I think she called you a little bit. Maybe I'm wrong. I didn't call her a brat. I have to go back. You didn't call me a brat. I'm so sorry. I mean, you're describing her. That is, um, you know, using some adjectives.
I want a shirt that says himbo. Yeah, I want a shirt that says himbo. Actually, I'm a himbo. I want that as a shirt. I think you guys get a lot of money from that. No, you're just a bimbo, not a himbo. You can't take himbo. No, I'm not taking himbo. That's totally your thing. You're so right.
it's b b with with a b for you himbo himbo i think it should be you're a bimbo no i'm a himbo and that's the shirt that we got made what man would be like being called a himbo though i don't know do you like being called no man Yeah, sure. That's fine with me. Okay. I love that for you. I'm going to read some chats. All right.
Thank you, Sider. A bear might maul you to pieces if it thinks you are a threat to its cubs. Also, a bear is not going to help you find a way out of the woods, but the man might. In fact... Most men are decent and would try to assist a woman lost in the woods no matter how much they yap. Okay, thank you, Dixon Sider.
Wait, holy fuck, bro, your name. Oh, you fucking got me, you son of a bitch. You son of a bitch. 69 Dicks Insider. You got me, bro. What's that mean? 69 Dicks Insider. Okay, all right. Greg. Oh.
Sorry. You can reason with a man. You can't reason with a bear. I don't actually know if you can reason with a man. I mean, I tried to reason with y'all and it wasn't working. I'm not a predator, but I'm not saying all men are predators. Your guys' logic why you wouldn't choose the man and you'd choose the bear?
because the bear's more predictable, is why I would choose the man. Because I can predict, there's like, even if it is a 51% chance, a 51% chance that I'm going to be victimized, that is . Way better odds than 100% or like even 99% chance that I'll get killed. I feel like if you had a 51% chance that you were going to get victimized, you would go with the odds that you're going to get victimized and you wouldn't talk to them in.
With that logic, that is. 51% chance that I'm screwed versus 100% chance that I'm screwed? 51% chance. So you got a 49% chance that you won't be victimized. I'm not agreeing with. It's also not a 100% chance that you're screwed. But if you got a 51% chance, you're going to. They be victimized by a man for sure. And you know, this is a statistic. You're not going to talk to a man. You're not, but you're probably not. I'm choosing the man.
The odds that I'm going to be victimized by a man is 51. You got to please just speak into the mic straight on. Versus the, I would say maybe 99% chance that I get victimized by a bear. The odds are way higher for the bear. I mean, so you're saying it's 100% chance you're going to get victimized by a bear and only a 51% chance you're going to get victimized by a bear? I'm using the 51% chance. I would say it's way less. I'm using your guys' statistic. Go ahead.
Pull it up. It's going to be the 5'10 shot. All right, brown bear. Kyle. Kyle. Up to 9 feet tall, 1,300. Ew. pounds claws up to four inches bite force 1200 psi pelt for five inches speed up to 35 miles per hour call 510 174 pounds project engineer said hi to you at the gym uh yeah If you had to choose between these two, which do you pick? The bear. Kyle. What if Kyle has a gun? Oh, boy. What if they get shot and then mauled?
Oh, man. Well, I mean, it could be worse than shit. What if Kyle manipulates you, takes you into his truck? Yeah, what if? And what if the bear hurts you? We're working with what ifs here, Brian. We're working alone in a forest with a man. That's what my mom taught me. I'm just going to get through my rapid fire questions here. then we'll get into the pre-show notes. So let's see here. Are men or women physically stronger?
Men. Men. Men. Men. Men. Men. Men. Men. Men. Obviously they have testosterone. Women have estrogen. They didn't know. Women also have testosterone, just so you know. Yeah, and so do men. I'll read this chat. Men also have estrogen. Okay. I'll wait until they're all back then. We have Brian Burns. Using the logic put forth by the women here, they'd rather fall victim to a bear 100% of the time compared to the 51% probability of being victimized by a man. Sad.
Who was the one who sang? Was it the girl who just got up? Or someone was talking about... Anyways. Grid One Motorsport donated $200. Hmm. Yeah. Rachel Wilson, good debater. Andrew Wilson's esteemed wife. Right away. Got a TikTok brain situation. Okay. I'll just wait for her to get back. Actually, I'll just go into one of my... Hold on. She's a no-show.
Allison, why don't you tell us the whole abandoning a guy story? Okay. This was before I became a Christian about four years ago, so please keep that in mind on the way that I acted. So I was like 22 years old and I was on Tinder and I enjoyed, you know, going to bars and drinking. You know, I was in Wisconsin. We drank a lot. So I meet this guy and he meets me at a bar. And when he meets me.
I'm drunk. I'm very, very intoxicated. And he's like super into me. And I tell my friend Liz, who was my DD.
We should go to Wisconsin like I want this guy to meet my mom because like I just like him so much and we're in Texas and he agrees to it So he gets in the car with me and my friend Liz. She's driving to go uh meet my mom so we actually stop at his mom's house i meet his mom keep in mind i'm very drunk okay like i would not be able to like probably walk by myself so i invite him with us So I meet his mom, he packs his suitcase, we get in the car, and we're heading to Wisconsin.
Well, in about the bottom of Arkansas, I started to sober up a bit. And I'm like, who's this guy in the backseat? You know, I'm like, what are we doing here? And we've committed to a trip. And it's like 15 hours. So I'm telling Liz, I'm like, we need to ditch this guy. And she's like. no way like that's so mean like you you know invited him you met his mom and like I'm like I don't care I was like I literally don't care well anyways we kept driving and Liz is like no that's messed up
I just didn't feel safe. So then we were in the bottom of Illinois. It's about 11 hours outside of Texas. He was taking turns driving. I'm completely sober. He went to a gas station. uh to go get something to drink and his suitcase was in the trunk but i jumped into the front seat and i like threw it in reverse and i peeled off and i was like block him on everything right now and yeah we just blocked him and we left him in the bottom of illinois
But I think he had his phone in his wallet, so he was good. But you stole his luggage? Technically, but I know Liz's parents did eventually get it back to them, and my dad wasn't mad at me. He was happy. Oh, well, I guess that makes it all better then. Yeah. Yeah. She's Christian now. Yeah, I mean, maybe hanging out with a tree is a better idea, too. Not just talking to one. I don't know. Would the tree abandon you in the bottom of Illinois? I don't know. I don't think it would.
You don't think like men have done type things to women? Oh, let's shift the burden over to men again. So she does something absolutely horrible. And that's also men's fault, right? Because they've done horrible things, so therefore no accountability. Can two people suck at the same time?
Men do bad things. She did the bad thing. Exactly. I admitted that I did the bad thing. I put myself in a bad, dangerous situation and a stupid situation. Why would I bring him to meet my mom? I was wasted when I met him. You mentioned dangerous situation. uh how long was he with you sounds like he was in the dangerous situation he was he was he was but uh like 30. well i thought too he's got bad judgment why would he get in the car with us oh it's still it's his fault yeah what a psycho he is
What a lunatic. This guy who trusted you and got in your car and did nothing to you, who you abandoned and stole his luggage. I mean, because you didn't feel safe. What? What kind of lunacy? What kind of man just gets in a car with two random women? Well, I was really wrong. It's always the man's fault.
Always the man's fault. It goes both ways. It goes both ways. It's a two-way street, baby. I didn't feel sad. How does it go both ways in this situation? I mean, I'm not saying that what... No, no, no. I never said it was his fault. I'm definitely not saying it's this man's fault.
in this situation, I'm not agreeing, but I'm saying to hate on her, like, oh, yeah, no wonder why I'd rather talk to a tree. Men have done all types of stuff to women, too, so it's not really fair to say that's why. That's a whataboutism. What about the men, though? What about the men do? What about what the men do? That's bad. Okay, great. It's fine. You can shift accountability off from her story and horrible things she did that she justifies by saying...
Because I didn't feel safe. Where are you debating this from against yourself? I said I did that thing before I was a Christian. I was horrible. I never put the blame on him. I was the problem. You said you justified it by saying that you didn't feel safe. No, I didn't.
I never said I didn't feel safe. I said I put myself in a dangerous situation. And you didn't feel safe? I never said I didn't feel safe. Did I? No, you did, but that's okay. You didn't feel safe. It's not that I was afraid of him. It's that... I put myself in a dangerous situation. That's accountability in and of itself. I'm just saying, I said it was before I was a Christian. I did something really bad. It was a horrible thing.
And that's how I opened up with it. I'm not saying it's this guy's fault. I felt bad for him, but also I was a terrible person. That's fair. I mean, have you ever said you were sorry to this guy? No, because it was years later when I realized how bad it was. But no, I wish I could. Scott, if you're watching this, I am sorry.
She said she didn't feel safe and that's okay. But that's not why I ditched him. I ditched him because I was a mean person back then and I didn't care about other people or how bad it put them out or anything like that. The world revolved around me. What did you do for the rest of that weekend? I went to Buddy O'Brien's house and went snowboarding. We did go to my mom's. You went and partied?
I mean, yeah, I was 21, 22 years old. I was an idiot. I lived for myself. What is your point here, Andrew? I was just asking a follow-up question. I was curious what she did that weekend. What does that have to do with anything? I'm sorry does every question need to lead to some kind of gotcha outcome?
Or can I just ask kind of general questions? You can. What was the point of her story? I was also just asking a general question. Yeah, what was the point of her story? Probably to get that reaction, I guess. You don't know? You don't know what the point of her story was?
I mean, I got in halfway through, so. Yeah, so I don't know. So my question is to have a point. Her story doesn't. Dude. I don't know. I'm trying to follow the logic here. Oh, man. Yo, thank you, Caleb Serial. Sorry if I was a little. A little tilted earlier. My bad, man.
What does that mean? Tilted, it's a video game term, actually dating all the way back to pinball machines. So when you used to play a pinball machine, if you were playing the game and you got frustrated, people would literally tilt. the game and so in the video game like if you're you keep losing matches or you're not getting good RNG you're not getting good luck in a video game you can become frustrated
It's a video game term, tilted. I have a question. I'm glad you turned it all around and that you don't do horrible things like that anymore. I was just kind of curious. Play video games? No, no, no. I'm telling the story. Wait, but you took his luggage?
I mean, I wasn't thinking about that. I thought it was my moment to ditch him. Liz, it was her car. She was saying no, and I just thought, we're ditching this guy. I could not bring him to my mom. Did you guys go through his luggage? Yes, we did. like for to get stuff no we just wanted to see like what was in here and we found what did you find okay you know like those little
pills that you can buy at a gas station. Like rhinos? Yeah. So I was like, so he already thought because I gave off that impression. So I was like, man, like, that's my bad. No fucking way. And that's why she left it. No way he had boner pills. There's no way he had boner pills in his luggage. He did, and I told my dad you could call him.
Mike. Okay, all right, fine. He had donor pills, okay. But he was under the impression you guys were going to go off for the weekend and smash, right? Probably if I invited him, yeah. I mean, I'm guessing. I was so drunk. Okay. It was a long time ago, nine years ago. I've done something like that before, and I felt bad. Why don't you tell us? Not too bad, though. Tell us what happened. Well, basically, I was out at the club. Right.
So, basically, I was at the club, and I met this old man who was buying me and my dudes some drinks. Wait, sorry, did you say a man? I met this man, this older man. who was buying me and this dude some drinks. And then he offered to give us, me and my friends, an Uber back home. So he was going to give us an Uber back home, and then I checked the address, and the address was actually to his hotel.
so so wait what did you do well i clocked him i said that is not our address change that put in our address uber came he got in the car
And then my friends kicked him out of the car. I actually don't think you did anything wrong there. As explained, he was going to get you an Uber back to your place, right? But then he was trying to get you guys, unbeknownst to you, to his place i don't i think the panel can agree i don't hear i don't think you did anything unless i'm misunderstanding something but thank you guys i was feeling guilty
It's good that you noticed that beforehand. Well, yeah, but it wasn't for him to come back to the place. He was just supposed to get us an Uber to our house. Oh, I think I see. So you felt like... I think he thought he was supposed to come hang out with us. Okay, I sort of understand. Do you get what I'm saying?
Was he, he was kind of just doing you like a simp nice thing, just like he was going to pay for your, you and your friend's Uber. Right. And he maybe thought he was going to go hang out with you guys, but then he told, put the address to. So yeah, originally he put into his address and I was like no put it into our address And then I think he's he thought he's gonna come kick it with us And then they like start like they started screaming
In the Uber, which I thought was a great move. Y'all were drunk. Everybody was drunk, I'm assuming. Yeah, but I also thought it was a smart move. Like, they started screaming in the Uber and being like, we don't know this dude. And then... They kicked out the dude. Oh, poor guy, yeah. So, yeah, I'm saying from your guys' perspective, yeah, maybe that was fucked up. Nah, I think this was actually probably just like a drunken mix-up. I think it was a smart thing to do on our end. I mean...
If you didn't want to hang out with a guy, I don't think there's anything wrong with telling him no. She didn't want to hang out with a guy. I did not want to hang out with him. And she told him no. Let's talk about them. It's a little different. A little different. In any case, okay, let's go through the rapid fire questions. Who is the primary victim of war, men or women, starting with you? Oh, my God. I'm going to need a minute to think about that. Let's not start with me.
plead the fifth how about i'll count to ten no you're gonna have to start with somebody else okay uh start with you go ahead i'm gonna go men on that one i'll say men men I think both. Both? Yeah, I think both. Both? Yeah, lucky. Men? Probably men. Okay. Now, for those of you who said both, assuming you had to pick... one or the other, which do you pick? Men. I mean, I don't, I can't really pick because I feel like, I mean, I don't want to know if y'all want me to elaborate, but I feel like.
the women are suffering just as much. If the men are at war and they're dying, and the women got to pick up the pieces of all that, you know, and then raise children by themselves and all that, then...
I mean, they're both really victims. I would say both are victims, but he asked who's the primary victim. Primary. I mean, I think both. Who would you rather be in this situation? Just because you're dead. I mean, there's children now growing up with fathers and all that. But you get to watch them grow.
Okay, let me get your answer. So, and then we're talking about like literal war, right? Yeah, so you said both. If you had to pick, which? Statistically, I don't know. I mean, what? Like, I don't know. If you look it up, it'd probably be men. Okay, so going back to your point, you're saying, well, it's both because, well, the men are dead, but the women, it's...
They've lost their husband, their father, son, whatever it is. Yeah, you don't know what they have to do to keep it going. But wouldn't you agree that when it comes to being a victim of something, being really, really sad... isn't as bad as being dead. I mean, what's the emotional trauma being passed down now onto these generations?
through these men being dead. I mean, sure, they're the primary victims. Are they? Are they the primary victims? I don't know. Because now you go to war. Now let's say your grandpa goes to war, your dad goes to war, your uncles go to war. Now your grandma and your mom is raising... let's say five six seven children and you can't even raise these kids like
I don't know. And these kids don't have any fathers in their lives. So are they really? I mean, the men, sure, they died. They went to war and fought and died, but they're still a victim. Let me ask you a different question. If somebody has cancer. and then they die of cancer.
Are they the primary victim? Well, of course. But that's cancer. That's a disease. I think it's different than war. But you still have to pick up the pieces and you have emotional trauma. That's true. All the same side effects, right? Well, when you say primary victim, are you talking about like...
Physically? Like, okay, obviously the men who go to war. In totality. I'm not making any differentiation between mentally and physically. I feel like you kind of have to, though, in this situation. No, not really. Why not really? Well, the question is in totality. I feel like it goes both ways. I think he made a good point with the cancer thing. I do think he did make a good point with that. Speaking of which, we didn't get your answer to the question. Both. Both, okay. I would ask...
Who would you rather be, a man in war or a woman at home stuck with, you know, picking up the pieces? I mean, you're asking a woman from her point of view what I would rather be. I mean, I don't know. That's a fair question. Just what situation would you rather find yourself in? I mean, I wouldn't even want to be a man, so. I don't know.
Okay, then we'll just ask it this way. Would you rather go fight the wars while the men stayed at home? I mean, if I was physically more... No, just as you are right now. Huh?
As you are right now. As I am right now. But I want to fight a war. Definitely not. Yeah, definitely not. I mean, I don't think anybody wants to fight war. Do you think, so let's assume for a second that you're happily married, okay, and your husband has like a... a busted leg okay and you get drafted and you get sent off to war and he stays home
And while you're in the war and there's blood and guts everywhere and you're watching your friends get sniped and all this other stuff. It's the righteous thing to do for America. Hang on, and you die. Is your husband as much of a victim as you?
Wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry. So if my husband's like a stay at home. Yeah. Because I don't know what happened. I got drafted. Okay. You see much of a victim? Yeah, I think so. I think now he's got to pick up the pieces. You think he's as much of a victim as you are? Yeah, he's just as much of a victim of war as I am, I think. That's great. In his next marriage, he can sit down and be like, oh, man, I've had it rough. My wife died in a war.
And I'm as much of a victim as she is. And so, you know, you don't know what that did in. Really? That's what you think? That's the point of view? Yeah. Well, think about a woman. I mean, if a woman has sit there and her man died and now she's got to go on with. that i mean who is to even say like she goes and remarries but let's say she does i mean like i'm not saying she's not going to have like emotional trauma from it i'm just asking do you really think that she's the primary victim here
I think she's, I mean, a primary victim. Yeah, I think so. I mean, but that's just my opinion. Well, then how come. How come your husband wouldn't be the primary victim if you went off the floor? I just said he was. I just said he would have been. Oh, he would have been. I mean, I said both. My answer to the question wasn't man or woman. It was, I feel like both are, so that's my answer. It's not that.
You can choose a primary. Yeah, exactly. I think they're very much equally primary victims of war. That's what I think. They're equally primary victims. Yes, there's a war going on, just like cancer. If my husband dies of cancer, I feel like I'm...
primarily a victim of cancer, it took my husband. Now I have to sit here and pick up the pieces of that. So now that makes me somewhat a victim as well. I had to deal with that. Maybe just because I don't have cancer doesn't mean I'm not a victim. So if you could choose, if your husband... had cancer or you had cancer you could choose which one would you choose
What if like if we had to choose which one had to have cancer? I mean, I think being a righteous person, you'd always choose yourself. So I guess I would choose myself. I wouldn't want. You'd choose yourself. I wouldn't want, yeah. I mean. But wouldn't you be victimizing him a bit? I mean, yeah, but he would be a victim if he chose him. It would be the same way, vice versa. If I wanted to do it and he wanted, you know, so. Okay.
Well, I have a couple of clarifying questions on this one. So when it comes to some of you said both, does anybody here think it's women or is it both? Say more. Okay. So I'd like to perhaps break this down into a couple different conflicts. And I want to break it down geographically. So the United States, for World War I. Who's the primary victim of war of the U.S. population during World War I, men or women, or is it both? Wait a second. Okay.
You're saying the primary victim of war. During World War I. Does that change your answer at all, for those of you who said both? Well, I mean, who was the primary victim, who had the most casualties was obviously men, and probably young men at that. You know, does that mean the women weren't victims in World War I? Yes, they definitely were. They had to pick up the pieces. The women had to pick up the pieces. Okay. Your answer? You said both, right?
Okay, for World War I, what's your answer for U.S. men? For U.S. men, I think, well, since I said both, I feel like men, it's more physical. like physical trauma and for the women it would be more mental and i'm not saying that word doesn't have for the women yeah well i mean it's just because like say your like husband died and that's like the love of your life and like you love that man and he dies and it's like oh like that's
Okay. And I believe in World War I, or no, I guess it was probably more like World War II where it was like the economy went really bad and women were the ones who had to carry the economy while men were at war, you know? So just to be clear on the World War II note that you just brought up. I know, they had to get up and like go work.
Yeah, but it's sad because women didn't have rights before that. Those victims. That's why they gave us rights, because they couldn't work. Weren't they like women? Just to be clear, you said women didn't. There's a lot. I mean, they did have some rights, but they didn't have the right to vote.
Wait, just to be clear, just to be clear, women, your argument is women didn't have the right to vote during World War II. I mean, I can't remember the year, if it was the 30s, 40s, or 50s that women were able to vote. What year did women get the right to vote? I don't know. Was it the 50s or was it the 30s? Here, let me ask you a different question. I'm not sure. What decade was World War I? It was in the 1910s, right? Well done.
What years were World War II? It was the late 1920s, 1930s, I believe, wasn't it? Or didn't it start? It all started like... Nazi Germany all that started around like the 20s the early 20s, so I can't give you exact dates I can't remember. I mean, you said late 30s. No, no, I said late 20s, early 30s, right? Well, not late 20s. Late 30s is correct. Late 20s for World War II, not so much. Oh, okay.
So, okay, women got the right – okay, World War I, 1914 to 1918. Women got the right to vote 1920. World War II, 1939, 1945. Right, okay, so there you go. You know more than me. But you said that – I know women weren't really working during World War II up until that time, so I know that that's when women became in the workforce. And you think women having to be involved in the war effort during World War II is a bigger...
level of suffering and victimization than the men who had to go to war? I mean, what are the women having to deal with? Like, they have to raise families. They have to work. They have no help. The economy is super poor. So these women are victims. These are extreme conditions. I'll explain the conditions to you, to women. They had to go into factories, sometimes for up to eight hours a day. Oh, man. And work. Listen, no, no, no, no, no. And their husbands are at war.
They're at home taking care of all the children, all the bills. The economy is super poor. The economy is super horrible. We're in the Great Depression, right? The Great Depression is in the 30s. Wasn't it in the 30s, early 30s? Yeah. Well, maybe that was after. So hang on, hang on, hang on. Man, I know some history, but I can't remember exact years. Wait, what would be the distinction now between a single mom getting up and going to work? I don't get it.
They're victims because they had to look after their own children, which they would have to do anyway, and they had to work. No, they're victims. And guess what? Nobody's forced them to work. Because men are not... there they're at war their husbands are dying their fathers are dying their uncles brothers sons are dying that's emotionally traumatizing i know
during the World War II economy was not that great, I believe. Maybe I'm wrong. I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe the economy was great, but I thought it wasn't from what I thought. I've got a couple questions here. I mean, those poor women, they had to... they had to go work it's not about working okay there's an emotional trauma and women are i know it's way more emotionally traumatizing to deal with the death rather than getting blown up yourself
I'm not saying like the men aren't victims. So let me just throw out a couple statistics here. So 16 million Americans served in the United States Armed Forces during World War II. There were almost 300,000 were killed. 670,000 were wounded, almost exclusively men. There were also 130... or excuse me, 130,000 American prisoners of war, of whom 116,000 returned home after the war. Now, let's also make an assumption here, and maybe...
Andrew, I don't know if you can help me search this. What percentage of the serving military men were married? Because typically they're drafting 18, 19, 20, 21-year-olds. I know people got married much younger then. I don't know if they have statistics on that. But let's just for the sake of argument say that...
A majority of the men were not married, didn't have children, didn't have a significant other, didn't have a girlfriend. So the sort of second... I shouldn't... Okay. In my view, the secondary victims... Would be who? The family? It's estimated about 46% were married. 46%. Okay, so a minority. But still a lot, right? Still a lot. Okay. But let's talk about then.
that majority of men who were single, who were not married, if we talk about them, we look at them, I assume they only had a mother and a father. If they're the ones that go and die and they don't have a significant other to mourn for them, wouldn't the... Hold on. Let me finish my point. Let me finish my point. Wouldn't...
Okay, you said mom, grandma, sister, brother, father, uncle. You do realize that the suffering, the secondary suffering that you're alluding to, that is experienced by family members, is... equally shared by the genders the mother loses a son the father loses a son so assuming the majority of men I think it's wrong to like think that
Women aren't just as much as victims, but okay. Men are more victims. But hold on. But actually engage with the scenario I'm giving you here. Of the single men who had, let's assume they had a mom and a father who were living. And let's say they had no siblings. And it was just the mom and the father. And then that boy, man, whatever, went to war and he died. His mom is going to grieve. His father's going to grieve and mourn. In that scenario, who's the primary victim of war? I mean, definitely.
The guy, I guess. But, I mean, who's to say that the emotional impact and physical and financial impact doesn't reflect just as much in... The family. Right, but okay, so hold on. I'm trying to look at this from a math perspective here. I just got to ask this real quick. Who's the primary victim in an abortion, the mother or the fetus? Oh, man. Fetus. I'm not going to speak on this one. Yeah, I'm just asking you. Who's the primary victim? The mother or the fetus? I don't know. An abortion? Yeah.
Probably the baby. I mean, I don't know. I feel like I'm definitely pro-woman's choice, so I'm not going to sit here. We can come to that later. We can come to that later. So, okay. If there's one mother, if there's one father, and there's one male who dies, and if this is the majority of the men that were involved...
In World War II that lived in the United States. But just because they were single doesn't mean that they didn't have children or anything. If they weren't married, they probably didn't have children in this time period. I would say yes and no. you know i agree with you no i no i agree with you because during that time obviously yes but does that mean they didn't have children wait hold on but the children of these men who had children out of wedlock 50 were boys
and 50% were girls. Okay, like the children, the babies.
Yeah. Yeah, so what does that have to do with who's the victim? These children are now growing up with no father. I don't even understand your argument. Out of wedlock, even worse. I don't even understand your argument here because... the child could be a boy or a girl the framework of the question is who's the primary victim of war men or women so if it's a boy child and if it's a female child and this is equally distributed then this doesn't help your argument that it's both.
It does. No, because... It does, actually. Fine, I'll grant you. Let's say he had two children out of wedlock. He has one father, one mother, one boy, and one girl. That's still an extra man who's dead. Who is the primary victim of war? Everybody involved. It's amazing. I don't even know how to actually argue this. I'm just going to defer to you because I can't even.
I was just going to say, if the baby is the primary victim in an abortion, what is the deciding factor that makes the baby the primary victim and not the mother? Mother's health. How far along the fetuses? Hang on, I'm asking the gal here. She was the one who gave the answer that she thought that the baby was the primary victim. If that's the case, what is the deciding factor as to why the baby's the primary victim and not the mother?
I mean, I feel like I can't really answer this question because it's not really something I want to speak on, for one. And two, I'm pro, like, people just make their choices. Like, what I would do personally... I don't put on to what the next person could do. So what I feel like would be wrong.
I'm not going to judge somebody else. You know what I'm saying? He's not asking if you get it or not. I'm not going to answer the question for that reason. I feel like my opinion is on the answer. I don't want to give it because it's a very political question. Let's try it a different way. You would agree that aborting at nine months, that would be bad, right? You would at least agree that that's true.
I mean, yeah, the baby's full grown, full term. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if the mother had the abortion, then who would be the primary victim? I mean, why did the mother do it? Because she didn't want it anymore. She just didn't want it? Okay, then the baby. Because now you're just being selfish. So what would make the baby the primary victim? I mean, you carried a baby full term to...
A baby couldn't live outside the womb at this point, so it doesn't even need to be in your, you know? So at that point, if you get an abortion, then sure. But I don't really want to speak on abortion because, yeah, it's not my place, I don't think.
All right. Well, do you have something quick? Yeah, pretty quick. I think the point he was trying to get at is the baby's the primary victim because the baby's dying. And so he was going to turn that over to men in war dying and saying that if... you use that logic for abortion it can be applied to this scenario it's like comparing apples and oranges like war to abortion like
It's two different things. You can compare things that are very different. Yeah, there's never a comparison which is going to be exact. What we're trying to just do is just test the logic for perceived victimhood. So in this case, in war... I think I understand what you're saying. You're saying that there's a bunch of external factors which could make women also victims in war, which would include things like emotional damage, trauma.
psychological intergenerational trauma which could happen because you lost grandpa when you were a kid all these different factors which could possibly go into this okay but if we're looking even though we have all these correlates for different factors of victimhood
I would still say there's primary correlates. In this case, I would say the primary correlate is death. And so I would ask that even in an abortion, I would assume that this type of trauma and stuff like this at nine months would also exist for women. So why would the baby be the primary victim? That's the question. Yeah, I don't really want to speak on the abortion.
Okay, she doesn't want to engage on that. That's fine. I will just really quick last thing here Nick, you know that Ukraine split screen that we have I'll have you pull that up. Nope, nope, nope. Not yet, not yet. Okay, it's okay. I should have been more clear. So, okay. You guys are all familiar with the Ukraine conflict, correct? Oh, actually, wait. Before I do that...
Ask her if a woman goes to war, who's the primary victim of war? If we switched it, let's... I already answered this question. Oh, did you? Yeah, with you. You said the same thing. You said if... if some your husband got his leg blown off and you had to go and you got what's the word whatever the war and you had to fight would he be the victim too i mean i already stated that i think both are the victims okay so
There's a very recent conflict, the Ukraine-Russia conflict. So this one's an interesting one because it's much more recent. We're all familiar with it. assuming so ukraine is kind of the perfect microcosm of the inconsistency inherent in feminism women are the equals of men until the bombs start to drop Now, I'll ask you once more for everybody who said it's both. In the Ukraine conflict, who's the primary victim of war, men or women, starting with you?
I am not familiar enough on this situation or educated enough on this situation to speak on it. Like just plain and simple. But you were able to, for the previous question, you were able to say both. I don't know what's going on. But you are familiar that there is a war in Ukraine, correct? Okay, yes. So are you asking specific to that? Are you asking specific to that war?
I don't know what's going on in that war, if I'm going to be honest. You said both. Does your answer change at all when it comes to Ukraine? Who was the primary victim at war with the Ukraine? Of the Ukraine war. Men or women? I mean, aren't women fighting in that war? Aren't the citizens? There are some women. I guess whoever... I mean... Let's assume that 5% of the military is female.
Go ahead and answer the question. Aren't the citizens fighting the war as well, not just the military? Aren't the citizens of Ukraine fighting the war, not just the military? So then it would be both, because they're both fighting.
I think both regardless of if the woman is fighting or not. No, civilians aren't really fighting in the war, no. There's some incidences of that, but it's primarily the two military forces and civilians are doing what they usually do in war and supporting the military operations via support roles. then I guess the primary victim would be whoever's the biggest, bigger statistic. Which I don't know. I mean, that's what he was proving, that's what he's trying to...
make his whole point this whole time. I mean, it's overwhelmingly men who are dying in the war, for sure. But that's every war. It's overwhelmingly men who are dying in every war. It doesn't matter if it's that conflict or a different conflict. And who's starting all these wars? Probably men. Not the men that are fighting in it. Yeah, definitely not. You know? War is a rich man's game.
Well, I mean, war like affects everybody that, I mean, it's going to hurt families. It's going to hurt children and everyone. So I feel like there's not really, you can't even compare two different types of pain because if someone's staying at home, they're still going to be hurt and affected by the people that are fighting in the war. Like if my. like say like son gets drafted I'm not I'm gonna like feel the pain of that just as much as he might be feeling the physical pain so I feel like
Again, it's both because you can't really compare physical and mental pain. But that really wasn't the question. The question was, who is the primary? You guys are not understanding that. We're saying both. You guys just aren't liking that answer. Exactly. I'm simply just not liking the answer. No, because we're giving why we feel like it's both. And we're saying it's not just a physical aspect. It's also an emotional aspect. And not just that, but it's a lot of other things that.
you know how women have to pick the pieces up on in war and so that doesn't make that makes them less of a victim because they didn't die in it like i don't i agree with that that's just my that's my opinion so i'll just kind of where i'm going here with the ukraine conflict
I don't know, did you weigh in on this? Did you give a... I mean, yeah, I guess both. Still both? Okay. I'm going to say both. So let me, I'll just give you guys an additional information and see if it changes your mind at all. So at the breakout of the war, there was a decree. by the Ukrainian government that required all military-age men, in fact, even very old men, so all men between the ages of 18, I believe to either 60 or 65, had to remain in the country.
They could not flee. They had to stay. Whereas women and children could leave. And in fact, a great many women, millions of women, fleed Ukraine. They were not compelled to join the military or anything like that in the same way that men were.
Knowing this additional information, this inequality that the men had to stay, I think if they got caught, they could face punishment, they could... uh go to jail fines etc knowing just this additional piece of information does that change your answer at all Sure, a little bit. Into the mic, please. I said sure a little bit. I think, yeah, I guess that would make them more of a victim, but that makes them a victim of their own country and, you know, politics.
and physical of course which it's and if the wartime policy if the wartime policy is to allow Every single woman in the country. But you can't leave. You're being, I mean, and that's America does it too. So there's a draft and you have to go if they say you got to go. I mean, you're.
That sucks. Like, that is like that. Does it change your answer at all? Knowing this extra piece of information? I mean, I kind of have the same feeling. Like, men are more of the victim of physical pain. Because, like, even if it's vice versa, like, if the men were staying home. Wait, do you think?
War is strictly physical injury. Oh, no. Have you heard about this? No, it's strange. It's PTSD. It's PTSD. I understand that. Have you heard of shell shock? Yes, I understand that. Okay. So why do you keep going to this? Well, in the physical realm...
Men suffer more. Because if you go onto a war field versus stay at home, like, how are you, like, are you more likely to get, like, bombed? Yeah. Like, physical pain. Like, if you walk out into a minefield versus staying at home. I guess where I'm confused here is you're saying, well, men on the physical realm... are they have it worse but in the psychological psychological mental oh no that's terrible no one can like but so i i don't really understand because you say both
So it's if you say both, wouldn't you follow your argument up from, well, men on this hand have it worse, but women on this hand have it worse. But I failed to see. on which hand women have it worse when it comes to war. I wouldn't say worse. It's just bad. War is bad. There's no good war. Let me ask you a question. If somebody stole $5 from you versus somebody stole...
your entire life savings, I don't know how much your life, maybe if it's $5, it doesn't matter, but which one would be worse? Definitely life savings. Okay. Because of the magnitude in which... someone has deprived you of your belongings. In this case, your money. Yeah. Are you comparing that to the men in war? Is that the statistic? Well, if a woman gets trips and falls and get a boo-boo, you know.
Versus a man gets a shell impaled through his body. Yeah, that blows. One's worse than the other. But his kids at home, it's just as bad. I mean, it's not just as bad. I take it back. But the kids at home are still going to like... feel shit the mom's gonna feel shit so yes i don't disagree with so i guess argue arguably men would have it statistically worse but okay now i'm gonna change my answer because men statistically
would have it worse but okay i guess my point is that the people at home are still going to feel that too and then what about you yeah i'd agree i mean it sounds like you're coming from a physical standpoint so physically no i'm speaking in totality Okay, yeah. I mean, arguably because they experience both mental pain and physical pain, I would say statistically, yeah, but I'm not...
taking away from those who are suffering back at home as well. No, everyone's a victim of war. Nobody ever denied that the women aren't victims of war. Of course they are. I'm a primary victim. Women absolutely suffer, but... Thank you, Abigail. The original question was, who is the primary? That means there can be a secondary. I still think it's situational.
I think it could be situational if like, if the man got killed and then the son, like let's say a woman had a son and then he like went in a spiral and died too. I think that the mother would be the primary. If she has a son, wouldn't men still be the primary victim?
That's a male. That's a double. What if it's a daughter? She does the same thing. She spirals out. My dad died in war. I hate life now. That's my dad. I love my dad. But wouldn't she then... be a secondary wouldn't she be a secondary victim second because her father was the primary primary victim yeah i would like to say so yes you have a whole family that's losing their father
um as he goes off to war but you have the father that's losing his whole family as he goes off to war they're at home he's at war they have each other he has himself that's exactly why we're saying both anyways uh there's one nick can you pull up that photo of ukraine then we'll move it on when you said um when you said the whole statement about five dollars versus life savings were you comparing life savings to death
Is that what it was? I wasn't... Were you trying to... It was more of an analogy, I guess. Yeah, analogy. I wasn't comparing... Obviously, death is worse than losing your life savings. Obviously. But what I'm asking is when you did that analogy, is it worse to lose $5 or is it worse to lose your life savings? $10,000, yeah. Whatever. Life savings is what you were saying. Sure. Were you trying to kind of...
compare losing obviously not compare but was your analogy with life savings you know well when you were you trying to say i don't understand your question i'm sorry when you brought up that analogy what was your point what were you trying to prove I was trying to, I guess, differentiate by degrees of harm, degrees of hurt. So, for example, if somebody stole $5 from me, I'd be upset for like...
30 seconds. Okay. If I went and saw my bank, you know, looked at my bank statements and saw that all my money had been drained, the degree of like anxiety response I would have, the degree of, and assuming it's like unretrievable, like it's gone, I've lost my money. I am like distraught. There's legitimate concerns over can I afford rent? Can I do like that? Of course. So there's bigger ramifications. So life savings drained. What was the comparison to the, you know.
I just explained it to you. No, I'm asking what was the comparison? I don't understand your question. He's giving a scalability, right? So like an order of operations to scalability. if i steal a penny from you it's going to affect you less than if i steal five bucks from you it's going to affect you less than if i steal a hundred it's going to affect you less than if i steal a thousand etc etc right so on a scale of you know how much you've been victimized
He would say if somebody stole five bucks from you, it would victimize you less than if they stole your entire life savings. So he's saying the ultimate thing here, though, is your life. At the end of the day, that is your life. So meaning that the hypothetical man in war has passed away. Meaning the hypothetical man in war has passed away.
Your life, meaning the hypothetical man in war has passed away. Right. So in that situation, I think the other person is a bigger victim because the man has passed away. He's no longer experiencing mental trauma. The man has passed away. He experienced death, which obviously is horrible. But now the people at home, the woman...
Yeah, they have to carry that. They have to carry on with that. And they have to go teach their children. So that's why I'm saying this question is situational. So then by this logic, then, you think it's better to be dead? Than be alive with trauma. Sometimes. Sometimes. Honestly, yeah. And are all of you traumatized? Are all of us traumatized? Like in general? So again, haven't you experienced trauma? Isn't psychological trauma? I think every person has.
And aren't you living with trauma? Then why aren't you unaliving? Because maybe it's not that deep. It's situational. I don't know why you can't understand that it's situational. Yeah, I agree. It's situational. But what I'm saying to you is that it's beyond obvious to me that people would... much rather live with trauma than
be dead. That seems obvious to me. It's not because a lot of people kill themselves every year. A lot of people pass away. Actually, a lot of people pass away from self-inflicted injuries because of the... trauma they've been a lot a lot of people a lot more people live with trauma than unalive themselves but a lot still on wait wait wait because of that like what what statistic like can you pull that out of and say like yeah
These people live with trauma. You're just saying stuff. Can you just say that it's situational? Let's just see if we can agree if it's obvious or not. You guys are looking at this black and white. As a percentage, do you think live with significant trauma? Over 20%? Yes. Do you think that women are unaliving themselves at a rate of 20%?
I mean, I don't know the percentage, but I know that every year it goes up. People want to kill themselves every year it goes up. No, they're not. Which means people are dealing with a lot of trauma and they don't want to live with it. If you lost 20% of a population in a war... it would be the biggest bloodbath known to man. 20% is astronomical. We're talking about astronomical numbers.
There's no way, it should be completely obvious to you that there's no fucking way 20% of women unalive themselves due to trauma. That's just insane. There's no way you could ever believe that. You're the one who said that. You're the one who brought up 20%. I don't know. We didn't know what you meant by the whole 20%. You're not listening to the logic, right? You talk more than you listen, and yet I've been sitting here listening, not talking.
So the thing is, is what I asked specifically was this question. Do you think that more women unalive themselves due to trauma or live with the trauma? And she's like, well, I don't know. Okay. Well, if that's the case, do you think that at least more than 20% of women experience significant trauma? Yes. Are they unaliving themselves? No. No, they're not. Because I don't feel like what you're saying is like real statistics. You're just throwing numbers out and saying.
Is that 20% of women who experience high trauma, are they unaliving themselves? A lot of them might be. Can you tell me? How many do you think are? Because I can't tell you. Well, how many do you think are? I don't know. Let's just do it easy. Let's just do it easy.
If you have 30 women who are experiencing severe trauma, do you think 15 of them are going to unalive themselves? No, not 15, but three. You think 10? Three out of 30. Three out of 30? Three. Whatever you look up is going to be too big of a statistic anyway.
I don't really, I don't think it matters if it's like 5% or 20%. It's a lot. It's bad. Like it's too many. One is too many. An attempt is too many. So no matter, it doesn't even matter that it's like 20%. Like it's already, it's like, it's too much. The point of the question is to make the determination as to whether people would rather, if it's obvious that people would rather live with trauma rather than not.
It seems like that would be self-obvious to everybody in existence, considering that most people, the overwhelming majority, the vast, vast majority of all of humanity does not unalive themselves, even though... Many, many, many of them experience massive trauma. They're not unaliving themselves. But lots of them are still suffering.
Horribly. Yeah, they could be suffering, but if they're making the choice not to unalive themselves, then it seems that they consider that to be the superior position. Right? It seems that they prefer to be alive. He's arguing your guys' statement that it's better to live with trauma than die.
Or that it's worse to live with trauma than die. I think it's situational. I think every person has trauma. I don't think every person has serious trauma. Now what one person might consider serious is very opinion. I think just because somebody chooses to stay alive. their trauma doesn't mean But to people who are experiencing mass trauma, like very high levels of stress and trauma and are very not well in their head, like mentally disturbed, how many of these people are unaliving themselves?
probably a decent, probably a decent percentage of them. Yes, but I'm not saying 50%, maybe, but maybe. 3, 4, 5 to 10% might be, and that's still... Okay, you know what? Let me just ask this in the most basic way. So sure, yeah. No, no, no, then your point is, yeah, you're correct. Would you rather live with trauma? Intuitively...
Hang on, let me just ask this in a way all of you would just intuitively kind of understand. Do you think if you went to most people, most people, men and women, and you asked them this question, if you push button A... you're going to have experienced serious trauma. And if you push button B, you're going to die. Which button do you think they would push? Starting with you, go ahead.
I feel like it depends on the person. Do you want to get shot or do you want to get raped? That's the question. That's not the question. Would you rather die or would you rather be raped? It actually is the question. the type of trauma. That's not my question. That's not my question. Crazy trauma versus dying. What would you rather choose? That's not my question. Stop, stop.
Here's the question again. Don't rephrase the question. No, it's like comparing apples to oranges. The question is, button A, you experience significant trauma. Button B, you die on the spot. A lightning bolt shoots out of the sky and you die. Those are your two options. Do you think most people would choose button A or button B? I think people would choose the trauma, but I think would they regret that? They might. I think a high percentage.
Why do you think they would choose the trauma? Because after you have dealt with the trauma, now I'm living with this crazy, wild shit when I could have just died. You might at that point decide it was... No, no, no. My question was, why do you think they would choose the trauma? Why do you think they would choose the trauma?
Huh? Because they don't know. I mean, unless they know what the trauma is, like I said, if it's like, okay, what's the choice? Like, I die or I get raped. Like, situation is... Because the trauma could... seem to me they put the dumbest and retarded girls at the end of the table so the trauma could be you know okay you you've dealt with I don't know like a little bit of
Whatever the fuck, like being made fun of in second grade, right? Like you'd probably prefer to live. If the trauma is emotional trauma, I'd press the trauma button. If it's medical trauma, I'm pressing the death button. You're raising your hand over here. You haven't spoken. much go ahead well it depends because i mean everyone you know everyone's trauma is valid but like i mean if i were to have these two buttons in front of my face i don't know i mean
I don't know what would happen after death, but I would choose trauma. What medical trauma do you experience if your husband dies at war? What medical MS? Yeah. What medical trauma are you experiencing? What are you talking about? It would all be psychological. Oh, all psychological. Okay. Okay. Yeah. It would all be psychological. So the thing is, is that when it's time, we're talking about trauma here in this context, severe psychological trauma.
Right? Would you rather push... Do you think most people would choose button A or button B? Do you think intuitively most people would push button A or button B? B is death. A is psychological trauma. A. A. They would definitely choose A. Nope. Which should give you some self-obvious, some self-apparent evidence that the death portion for most people is the non-preferable option.
That's just a basic logical demonstration. If intuitively you think almost everybody would choose the button to not die, then it seems self-obvious that people would rather be traumatized than dead. It seems obvious, right? So if you were like a little kid, right? Like back in like Nazi Germany or Jewish and you had the option before Hitler came in.
You had the option to either. What is Godwin's law? Okay, let's use any analogy besides Nazis. No, no, no, no, no. So you could go through all this trauma, right? You could go get sent to an extermination, can't be severely abused. No, no, no, we're not going to get into that. Use any analogy but that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, listen, listen.
Use any analogy but that one. Use a different analogy. I have an analogy. You get in a car accident. It's because, listen, it's not because I don't mind the analogy. The terms of service for the platform we're on. They mind the analogy. Had you guys been on time today, we would have been able to have gone through the entire pre-show and have given you the instructions about what to avoid. Go ahead.
Here's an analogy. Let's say you leave here tonight and you get in a terrible car accident and you wake up in the hospital and you've broken legs. You have severe damage, you know, medical to your body and it's psychological. Are you going to say, I wish I would have died? I mean, I feel like that's not extra traumatic, but it's not to the extreme of what somebody could deal with in trauma. So going and getting in a car accident is trauma, yes.
Yeah, you lost a loved one in war. That's your trauma. Both your legs are amputated from this accident. But you're still grateful to be alive. Oh, here. So here, let's just make it even simpler. Button A is you experience all of the trauma a person would experience losing a loved one in war, or button B, you die instantly. Which button do you think most people would push? Button A or button B?
Depends on the person. It's situation. Most people. I'm just asking for most people. Which button do you think most people would want? I just don't think that's something you can ask. Rate of major depression, major of emotional trauma in US Fem is 26% per 100k. Rate of self-delete is 5% per 100k for femme. Most people rather live with severe adversity than death. End idiocy now. Andrew, may I ask you why?
Yeah, yeah, go ahead. May I ask you why? Why? Final wave feminism donated $200. Ten plus years interviewing thousands of women. To reach the same conclusion as the most intelligent respected theologians, philosophers, etc. women are children. They require top-down guidance.
Okay. May I ask a question? I think you find the way of feminism. Yeah, yeah. I'd like to hear your question. Why is it so black and white to you? Why can't you understand that there's layers to things and that people are different and it's... It can't just be one or the other. Like every single person is different. One person may be okay with living with... I agree. Okay, so then why are you trying to argue that with us? Because... We're all saying both. So I'm going to explain.
So I can grant this to you and say every single human being is different with different preferences. Everything from whether or not they like pineapple on pizza or pepperoni, right? All the way down to the little micro nuances. However... There seems to be shared intuitions that most people have that you would agree that we have, right? So here's a good example of a shared intuition. Taking people's shit that they don't want you to take, they don't like that.
That seems to be a shared intuition all over the world. For instance, is there anybody at this table who prefers that people take their stuff away from them? Anybody?
Show of hands a single person who prefer no not a single one seems like that's a shared intuition even though all of you have Totally different preferences about all sorts of things So if there's that shared intuition, why shouldn't I think that there could be other shared intuitions like trauma, people wanting to live with trauma rather than death?
which could be self-obvious just based on the fact that you think most people would push button A or button B. That seems like now we're getting into, well, we share some sort of intuition here, right? I hear what you're saying. I really do. But I just. Well, I'm glad that you hear it. I'm actually looking for a counter argument. If you let me speak. Go ahead. If you let me speak, I could give you that. I hear what you're saying. I just.
I hear what you're saying. Yes, there's shared intuitions. Obviously, people don't want their shit taken, right? But not everybody is the same. Yeah, but we've already established that. So then what are you trying to say? Dude, can we establish right now that nobody in the room with you is the same issue? But that's so much different than somebody saying that they'd rather live with trauma. Today's father's day. My sister has cancer.
i had surgery my brother is disabled my mother is sick i work three jobs all of your please carry your cross amen thank you for the 200 yeah but yeah so back back to this just uh just real quick You agree that everybody in this room is totally different from each other right down to their preferences. Even the way that you just took a drink of that drink that you have, water, whatever it is.
is going to be different than how the gal next to you drinks that cup of water. We're going to agree it's totally layered and nuanced all the way down. But that doesn't mean that we don't share some intuitions which make us human beings. And a seeming intuition I can point to right now is you don't want your stuff taken from you that is yours. Everyone in that room agreed. Now, hang on. Wouldn't you agree?
That almost nobody in the whole world wants you to take their stuff away from them. Yeah, absolutely. Then that's a shared intuition. It is a shared intuition. So what's wrong with this analogy of a shared intuition that people would rather be alive with trauma than dead? That seems like a shared intuition. Well, you're saying it seems like, and you're asking for facts from us, but you're not giving us, you're not giving us facts either. I'm just asking you what it seems.
like I'm not even asking you for a fact I'm just asking you what is your intuition say most people would do in this situation push button A or button B I think it depends I think it's situational and I think it depends on the person Okay, but what would you say to this then? Button A, your shit is taken away from you. Button B, your stuff is not taken away from you. I would prefer my shit to not be taken away from me.
you're right so so you're in so intuitively everything which you have observed around you your entire life informs you intuitively that that's what they would push but you didn't need any data You needed no data. You needed no anything. Stop, stop. I'm almost done. I'm going to let you counter. I promise I'm going to let you counter. Hang on. You didn't need a single shred of data to come to that intuitively. You didn't need it. Right?
That I said I would prefer my shit not to be taken? No, no, no. You think everybody would push the button for the most part that they didn't want their stuff taken, right? I think so. Yeah, I think most people don't want their shit taken.
Right, so you can arrive to these intuitive conclusions absent any data at all, just based on observation. Yeah, but my intuitive conclusion... Yeah, so that would be an obvious observation. Hey, when he's talking and you talk, he can't hear you. But my intuitive conclusion...
about your question whether people would rather live with trauma or, you know, die. I'm saying I don't know. On that one, I'm saying I don't know. You asked me my intuitive... conclusion about if i'd want my shit taken or not i'm saying personally i'd rather not have my shit taken wait can you just yeah so so i can i can agree with you that you may not know the answer uh precisely you might say
well, I'm not sure this or that, but then when I kind of counter with, then why aren't people who experience severe trauma unaliving themselves at this kind of massive rate? You would think that if the preference was the other direction that they would be doing that, and they're not. So it seems intuitive, right? I get what you're saying, but I'm also not saying that the suffering is equal to the counterargument. I'm not saying it is either. That's...
my point. I'm not, I'm, I feel like for certain people, the suffering is equal to death. And so that's why I'm saying it's situational. I agree for certain people. It depends on the person. And for certain people, I'm sure that's true. Exactly. So it's just not black and white. Yeah, but that has nothing to do with the argument, though. It's not black and white. You're asking me.
about my shit being taken or it not being taken. I'm saying I'd rather not have my shit taken. I feel like most people would rather not have their shit taken. No, you're not. You're saying that most people would prefer not to have their shit taken. I literally just said that. I think most people would rather not have their shit taken. But for this...
other argument i'm saying i don't know all right you guys are kind of going in circles okay so you so i just want to make sure i got this right you cannot come to an intuitive conclusion that you think most people would prefer uh Death over trauma. I just want to make sure we got that on record. It depends on the person. I said most people. It depends on the person.
Okay, so you're not sure. I'm not going to give you the answer that you want. It depends on the person. That most people wouldn't choose death. It depends on the person. Yeah, I know, but I'm not going to give you the answer that you want, Andrew. Because it's most, it's most, right? I'm really not. You're not sure what you're saying. Andrew, I'm not, listen to me. I'm not going to give you the answer that you want. It depends.
You can just sit there and be quiet while I explain it. That's fine too. Okay, great. So the thing is, thing is, is that here's your logical extension so that you understand it while you look away. But you're still going to hear me because you have to, right? You need to understand this.
The logical extension of you saying, it depends on the person when I ask you, what do you think most people would do? You say, I don't know. That's what you're saying. I don't know. Which means the logical entailment of that is you don't know if most people would choose death or trauma.
That's the extension. Yeah, and it literally roots back to all of us saying both men and women. I got to move it on, Andrew. I got to move it on. Do you want to make a final point? No, no, I think I made... the final point already okay so last thing on that thing i have some more questions here we're gonna go around the panel i did actually really quickly i'll just show you the ukraine thing then we'll move on from the war thing nick if you could pull it up so
On the left here, you have Ukrainian women who are screenshotted on dating apps when they were able to flee to Stockholm and the United Kingdom and Barcelona and Lisbon. Where's the nice place in Portugal? um where's is that lisbon is in is that portugal or spain is that portugal Anyways, women, Ukrainian women were found on Tinder trying to go to the club, trying to, you know.
Get their hot girl summer on them. Whatever. That's what you have on the left. Ukrainian women on dating apps and Tinder trying to get dicked down by foreign men. On the right, well, we can't show it, but... On the right, you have dead Ukrainian men and soldiers. I'll ask the question one more time. If that picture is a manifestation of... Not just the Ukraine conflict, but all wars throughout history. Perhaps excluding the tinder. Do any of you who said both change your mind?
Seeing that image. I mean, how about the women that are like actually suffering, not the women that you just put up on Tinder. So then stop talking about just women who are on Tinder. You brought up, exactly. There are women who are suffering and then there's women who are on Tinder. Like, what? I think the point is the women are alive and still living their lives. But not every woman who is alive and dealing with the suffering.
Due to their husband or their father going off. Not every. Here. And also with the Ukrainian men. I'll just engage with you on this. Okay. I'll just engage with you. Hold on. I'll just engage with you. I'll engage with you on this. Okay. So, yes. Not every single woman. is on tinder but if you are ukrainian men there's zero ukrainian men that are on tinder in Stockholm, in Oslo. You don't think there's any Ukrainian men in Cinder, in any of those places? Honestly.
And think about the older men too that aren't fighting the war. Are you just being bad faith intentionally? Are you trying to argue that there's just as many men? Did I say that? Do you recall when I said no, men could not leave the country? Not any men. So it's actually plausible. Yes. No. From the age of 18 to 60 or 65.
men could legally not leave the country. If you did, you would be imprisoned. You'd be punished. They beat a lot of the men who did try to flee. If you see videos of these men trying to cross the border... the Ukrainian military police will apprehend these men and often beat them. So, hold on. It actually would be fair for me to say that...
There's a good probability, at least, you know, I don't know how things have changed. I still think men can't even leave the country. This is now, we're what, two, three years into this conflict. I think it actually would be fair of me to say that there are no men. in stockholm no ukrainian men in stockholm just partying it up swiping on girls well fucking hot swedish chicks i mean hold on hold on to the statistic yeah that's the statistic i don't need a statistic hold on let me answer
The statistic is that you can... That weren't in the country when it went to war. Hold on. Do you doubt my assertion that men between the ages of 18 to 60... We're precluded. We're not allowed to leave the country. I could pull up CNN. I could pull up BBC. Tell me the news organization, which you respect, and I'll gladly pull it up. I honestly do not know what this has to do with Tinder. All I'm saying is that I'm sure there's men who are on Tinder in Ukraine. No.
Listen, listen. I think there's Ukrainian men on Tinder, but they probably weren't in the country when the war happened. They probably are maybe half citizens of other countries. Maybe they already fled the country. Maybe they weren't there. So there might be. the statistic that was there sure they are the primary victims if that's what you want to hear
That's not the argument I'm trying to make at all. But do you think that the Ukrainian men don't feel like they're women that are fighting this war in Ukraine? You don't think that they feel like they're women? daughters and their grandmothers are not suffering you don't feel like that they don't feel like that again that's not the argument i'm making could you tell us the argument you're trying to make but
Do you guys know the definition of primary? Yes, they're all suffering. Yes, yes. The daughters are suffering. The mothers are suffering. The wives are suffering. I just agreed with you. What is the argument you were trying to make? Just tell us. I've literally repeated it multiple times. Please say it again.
Yeah, please say it again. Men are the primary victims of war. Men are the primary victims of war, and I've provided several examples. So what does this have to do with these specific men being on Tinder? Like, genuinely. What? It's the women who are on Tinder. I think she's just saying. It's Ukrainian women. It's to illustrate the difference. But they're not victims because they're on Tinder.
It's to illustrate the difference as a woman. Even though they might be on Tinder and doing the crazy shit they're doing. They're not the primary victims because they have the privilege to be on Tinder and not in war. I'm just going to move it on. No, genuinely, why did you get pictures of...
like random pictures of girls on tinder and compare them to dead bodies literally that has that is the most ridiculous comparison i've ever heard in my life because you could use like how is that it's a perfect why Well, because they're on Tinder, I guess that means everything's good, right? Please enlighten us. Why don't you just steel man my position instead of straw manning my position? What does that mean? This is crazy.
Steel man your position? Well, I'm just saying, like, I'm confused by the picture because it was, like, not comparable. When somebody says, like, steel man my position, it just means, can you repeat my argument back to me? That way I know you understand it. That's all it means.
are men the primary victim of war statistically in this case yes it's ukraine i mean men have to be drafted statistically yes i'm just asking why you are comparing random pictures of girls on tinder to dead bodies okay are you aware that there's currently a massive military conflict in ukraine i'm aware of that okay and are you aware that i've already stated this men between the ages of 18 to
60 or 65 were barred from fleeing the country and a lot of those men were drafted into the war and they're dead now whereas If a woman was so inclined, she could freely leave, she could cross the border, and then she could end up in Stockholm, Oslo, Lisbon, whatever fucking really nice... But what about the woman who didn't?
That's why I'm wondering why you're not comparing them. Don't act like I'm stupid. I'm genuinely curious. Let me ask you a question. If I told you that zero men between those age range... between that age range of 18 to 60 or 65, left the country, and millions of Ukrainian women in that age range left the country.
What's your argument to that? No, I'm just asking about the women. What are you asking? You keep jumping around my question. I'm not jumping around your question. I've tried to explain it multiple times, but go ahead. Why did you put pictures of like... Girls in provocative poses next to pictures of dead bodies. It was their Tinder profiles. Why did you hunt down Tinder profiles? You can't even compare that. Hold on. You...
I'm just like, why would you hunt down girls with pictures? I didn't. First off, somebody sent me that. We didn't make the collage. That's so weird. Why is it weird? Because you're comparing men who died in war to pictures of girls grabbing their asses on a Tinder profile. What's your point? It's an example of freedom.
Make an argument. You're asking me why I did it. You're asking me why did I do that. Make an actual argument. Hold on. Make an argument instead of... Why would you do that? Just make the argument instead. I'm just confused on why you're... for asking a question. Huh? Why are you like getting mad at me asking a question? Because you're not being like rational. You're not being logical. No, I'm just saying.
you could get pictures of like women like in ukraine you could literally get them at their house and like you went to tin like whoever that's where we have access to photos the reason to answer your question i feel like i was talking the reason that he showed that picture is because
It illustrates that women have the freedom to be able to be on Tinder. They can't get pictures of them in their houses. That's the pictures that they have access to. But it illustrates that women, they have the freedom. Brian, do you have any numbers on human trafficking in blank? This is not to take away from men suffering, which we do not have accurate numbers. Charlie, I don't have numbers on that. Don't know. Yeah, but no big deal, right? Because...
What about all the trauma that the men who are in their families have to experience by those women being trafficked? I feel like it's very sad. They're just as much a primary victim as the women. I feel like it's very sad, especially to Ukrainians at this moment. to compare who's a bigger victim and are women. And I feel like it's very sad to say women are secondary victims, second victims under men.
victims of war in any situation and i just think that's sad and that's just me i think as a woman that's how i feel now as men y'all might feel differently and y'all have been suppressing i think it's absolutely despicable that you guys You know, here's the epic female empathy that you guys are unable to acknowledge.
a singular realm in which men suffer more than women. I bet every single one of you would say that in this specific category, women suffer more. Let me ask you a question. They don't. essay who suffers more men or women statistically women so why is it men still suffer i'm not saying men don't suffer bro
The question is more. But why is it like poor men? Yes. Do men get essayed? Do men get essayed? Okay, more men are in war. More men are in war and more women get sexually assaulted. So who's the primary victim of essay? Women. But so why can't you just grant the most obvious scenario? That men are the primary victims of Ukrainian war? Yeah. I never said that men were long victims of Ukrainian war. You guys literally all said. I mean, I did. You all said both. It's both men.
both men and women it's different kinds of trauma i think war is a different subject and everybody's like making faces and stuff but i'm just saying there's like different types of drama I mean, I can't reason with it. I got to move it on. I got to move it on. I mean, you got a valid point. I'm going to read a couple chats here. Oh, great. Okay.
Caleb Serial, is it worse to abort the child or to abandon it on a stranger's doorstep? Child is alive, but the gamble on the future life of the child would be of concern. Is living through hell worse than death? Hey, Caleb Serial, thank you, man. I think we did kind of talk about that a little bit already. Yeah, we already asked it. Is it worse to abandon it on the stranger's doorstep? Anybody want to answer that? Women can't take accountability. I'm like, they can't.
All right. We have Maddie Ice. People have family members that die every single day. They aren't out here offing themselves. Really good point, Matty. I see how people go through traumatic things every single day. Death is something that we're all going to experience, whether it's a family member or our own.
uh you know our own thing eventually either through illness old age etc etc so thank you man we have stochastic decay who's the primary victim of grape the woman being essayed or the support system that has to pick up the pieces I think it's both probably. Somebody's in the bathroom right now. Can you sit down while the person's in the bathroom?
Okay. Stochastic decay, who's the primary victim of rape? The woman being essayed of the support system that has to pick up the pieces. I think this is a rhetorical question. I think it's both probably situational. This panel is retardant. Okay, thank you, man. Charlie Tanner, Brian, do you have any numbers on human trafficking and SA? Oh, that one already came through. All right, thank you, man. Appreciate it. We're going to read a couple more chats here.
All right, we have Joe MC. Okay. Joe MC, dude, when I was in Iraq, is marrying two of my friends. Two of my friends got cheated on. Talk about ultra trauma. Okay. Yo, AB check. Thanks for the gifted. 50 memberships, dude. You're a fucking legend. Thank you, man. What is everyone's favorite brand of alcohol? All right, like question. Go ahead. De Sirono. Huh? De Sirono. Okay, go ahead. Vuv Champagne. I see it, Nick.
I can't drink. I love that blue champagne as well. Yeah, you can't drink. I don't drink? They can't drink, but they probably drink. I don't drink at all. All right. This one came through. We have Robert Tanner. Brian, you are wrong on war casualties. Read Anthony Beaver, The Fall of Berlin, 1945. The amount of suffering on the Eastern Front is a terrible suffering during World War II. Well, yes, there were female civilians. There were a few women.
military casualties, but the overwhelming amount of casualties were men, at least in the military component. And then I believe the civilian component, you know, it's pretty comparable between men and women. So yeah, more men in total died during World War II than women. And more men were injured in casualties of war.
than women why does the government send men out to war and not women i'm sorry what i think we got a problem with the government no okay never mind you can move on brian andrew you proved tonight that the majority of women lack any type of logic Okay, Brian LeCompte, appreciate it, brother, appreciate it. Thank you, thank you. Oh, hold on. And then we have this one, and then Nick, if you could get those yellows. Brian, men from Ukraine have fled.
and are partying you are wrong, thinking I'll stay aid, and that Ukraine men aren't partying or on Tinder. All the oligarch kids fled. Everyone loses in war. Well, okay, if I can grant you that, yes, some men were probably able to cross the border, some men... We're able to get it out. That doesn't change the fact that all men were barred legally from like, for example, I think my understanding of United States law when it comes to the border, it's technically illegal.
to cross into the united states does that mean it doesn't happen for example doing uh being in possession of certain drugs is a crime do people still do it yes so the reality is While some men were able to escape, the vast majority haven't. And if they did escape, they had to go through much more extreme means of attempting to escape as compared to women who could literally cross the border without...
without any harassment or any sort of potential reprisals, they're free to leave. Whereas a guy, if you get caught trying to leave, you're fucked. Major fucks. Yes, some men were able to flee. of course most weren't though um and then ab check thank you for the uh gifted 50 memberships man appreciate it nick if you can hide all those that we uh went through okay next topic This is... Can you be sexist towards men? Go ahead. Me personally? No, just in general. Yeah?
Okay. Like, can women be sexist towards men? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Of course. Okay. Can you be racist towards white people? Yeah. Yes. Yes. I guess so. No, yes. I feel like... I don't know. What's the definition of racism? It's like making somebody feel less than you or something. You do believe their race. Yeah, but isn't there like a deeper, I don't know. I can't really even.
Because isn't there like a thing, like systematic? I don't know. No, you tell us. Remember, you're way more educated than we are. No, I don't know. She never said that. Right. You did say that. No, I didn't. No, she didn't. I'm sure you know what racist means. Yeah, I mean, isn't it like a thing? I don't know. Isn't it like a thing where...
You're discriminating against based on your skin color. I'll ask some clarifying questions. So can you be racist towards black people? Yes. Can you be racist towards Asians? Sure. Can you be racist towards... Latinos. Yeah, but I'm white. I'm not saying you. I'm a majority. I'm not saying you. I'm saying in general, can people be racist towards black people?
I mean, they're minorities, so isn't that like... I don't know. It's just a yes or no question. Yeah, like, I don't know. Okay. That's my answer. Here, let me ask you, can black people be racist towards white people? No, I don't think so. Can Asian people be racist towards white people? I mean, I don't think so. Can Latinos be racist towards white people?
I don't think so. Can any other race besides white be racist towards white people? I mean, I feel like to my friends that are, you know, not white, they've explained this to me before. And I'm not the best one to explain it, so I'm not going to. So, yeah. That's fair. Okay. What about you? Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yes.
I wanted to come back to you. Was that your genuine answer? Or are you just kind of saying yes just to say yes? No, that was my genuine answer. Okay, so you can't be racist towards white people then? Yeah, I'm also half white, so. Okay. All right. That's kind of my rapid fire questions. Then we'll get into, oh, a couple things. Just going around the table, do you consider yourself a feminist related to dating?
No, not a feminist? You'll have to come back to me. I'd say yes. No. Sort of. Absolutely not. No. Okay, I'll wait until she's back at the table to ask her the question. She's coming. There she is. She's coming. She's making her way. She's taking her sweet fucking time. Are you a feminist?
I wouldn't say like an extreme feminist, but yeah, I guess I'm a feminist. Do you consider yourself a feminist? Okay. All right. Good to know. Good to know. So those of you who said yes, you're a feminist. Oh, you didn't answer. Go ahead. I think I... I'd word it like her. Not an extreme one, but definitely a feminist. Okay, so do you believe in the patriarchy? Hell yeah. Hell yeah, you believe in the patriarchy, okay?
I've seen good patriarchies and then I've seen like some of their... Just answer the question, please. Sure, yes. Yeah. Like the patriarchy theory. I don't know much about the patriarchy theory. But you've heard the term patriarchy, right? Are you opposed to the patriarchy? Actually, I don't know. Define patriarchy. Well, you're the feminist.
I'm sorry to cut in, but I don't actually understand. Now, I don't know your name, Gal, who's sitting, from my perspective, would be to the right side of the table. second one over who has been kind of verbally sparring with everyone tonight. What did you say your name was? That's you. Yeah. Oh, Paloma. Paloma, okay. I don't understand why when Brian said, just please answer the question, he went, like, look at this shit. Look at this. What's going on here? Right? What the fuck? What's going?
I don't actually understand that. Think of it from his perspective. He's going around the table and he wants to get everybody's actual answer. If somebody goes on a diatribe right then, how could he get everybody included in the conversation? I really don't care about answering your stupid questions anymore, both of you guys, so I'm actually going to go. But you guys have a great night. Let me ask you just a few more questions if you don't mind. I mind. What are the questions?
So it's a rage quit? I don't care. Rage quit. It's okay. Let me ask her a couple questions. It's not a rage quit. It's a rage quit. Okay. Whatever you want to word it. What did I say that was so offensive to you? It's nothing you said. I just like really don't have the energy to keep going back and forth with you.
because you want a specific answer, and I'm not going to give it, and you're going to keep prying and prying until you get that answer, and I'm not going to give it to you. So you're just intellectually dishonest? Um, I just don't feel like arguing with you anymore, like plain and simple. You're not somebody I'm obligated to argue with. No, I agree. You're not. If you want to rage quit, it's totally up to you. Rage quit, whatever you want to word it. I don't really give a fuck.
I'm leaving. So I'll ask you the question. So you do believe in the patriarchy, correct? Yeah. So do you think that women are oppressed in the United States? Yes. And who are men the oppressors? Yes. Okay. So, well, I'm asking you some more questions, so. Okay, that is a rage quit. Okay. Peace out. Peace out. You too, homie. Yeah. Uh-oh. What's going on? What's going on over there? I think she's just looking for a purse. Oh, okay. Got it. Yeah, so...
So just very briefly to go over the question, the reason that this is being asked is in, we've heard this a lot on the show, between men and women dynamics. Obviously there's many men who prefer not to end up in relationships with feminists, right? They just prefer not to. And so this is why it's being asked if you consider yourself to be a feminist.
And that's how it's tied back into kind of the dating talk so that we can figure out where your stance is. It makes a lot of sense to me as politics in the United States is highly polarizing, right? So... So this is why it's asked and why it is he just wants to get everybody's answer on record before we start to kind of press in where your feminist beliefs come from, why you think that way, and how that applies to when you're dating.
So going around the table, let me give a different definition of feminism and see if the answers change. I think that the most charitable definition of feminism I can give is a rejection of patriarchal systems. in lieu of egalitarianism, meaning equality between the two sexes. By that definition, would you guys consider yourself feminists going around the table?
We'll start with you, gal with the red bangs. Sorry, I was here late, so I don't know anybody's names. So if I just call you out by your clothing, please don't get mad at me, right? That's basically the only thing I can do. So starting with you. No, you're good. Can you repeat that one more time? I've been up for like 24 hours and my brain is just...
Yeah, I've been there. So, if the definition of feminism was a rejection of patriarchal systems for the movement of equality between the two sexes, men and women, would you consider yourself a feminist then?
Should men and women be equal? Say that again. No, that's not actually what's being asked. So if the definition of feminism is the movement... towards the equality of the two sexes, men and women, and a rejection of patriarchal systems, meaning men in charge of shit, would you call yourself a feminist then?
No. Okay. It depends for me. It really depends on what type of men I've seen. Because obviously every man is different. Every patriarchal system that I've encountered in life, some men run it good.
real good and they're they're cool and everything so i would be down with a cool man running stuff but i've had seen some weird dudes running stuff too and then i literally am like oh my gosh thank god that i have my own rights because going under this guy would be like 11 hell like you know like so so if it's a good dude then i'm cool with it but if it's a dude that i don't like that's a really weird dude
then no so so i'm i'm i could flip it just depends on if i'm comfortable so to to kind of um engage with what you're saying we'll say Systems where men are in charge and have traditionally been in charge, they are going to stay in charge if you're under a patriarchy. Yes. But if... question would this be related to that so if it was a patriarchy society where like women like they're like oh women can't work it's like
Does that keep vulnerable populations vulnerable in a sense where, like, what if, like, the woman can't find a husband? I mean, we can kind of get into that. But just to get it on record, if that was the definition of feminism, charitable definition, would you then call yourself a feminist? If a good man running shit and following him or a bad man running shit and following him. Just a rejection of patriarchal systems for the movement of egalitarianism, meaning both are running things equally.
i mean i guess i could reject it but if i see a good one then i'll then i'll go for it you know i'd be like okay cool like it i just have to know if the dude's good or not okay so going to the to the next person at the table Oh, sorry. So by the first definition, so you're saying a rejection of patriarchal systems and a movement towards equality between the sexes. I mean, I think they should be the same, so no, I mean equal.
Yeah, so then feminists, right? Yeah, by that definition. Okay, so moving to the next one. I guess in that definition, sure. Yeah, you'd be a feminist then. Okay, and then moving to the next one. Probably not. No. So you wouldn't want to see a rejection of patriarchal systems for movement towards equality between the sexes? Absolutely not. Okay, next. Still no, not a feminist. Because women hate women.
I don't hate women. I didn't hear the redhead, though. I said absolutely not. And it's not because I hate women. It's because women were, you know, we should. We have a role to fill. Yeah, we have a certain role. And it's not to be in charge. It's not to be equal. And it's not to be, you know, independent technically. And as, you know, as a Christian. You're religious. Y'all are very religious. So it makes sense why you feel like that.
Okay, well, I understand money is your God, but my God is... I don't have a God. I have a creator. That's Romans 1. What? Hey, you should read Romans 1. 18, God's wrath against unrighteousness. Talking about people worshiping the creature rather than the creator. Anyways. I worship the creator. You don't know me. You don't know what I worship. What's your creator's name?
I mean, I don't believe the creator has a name. God, I guess. It's a force that we can't comprehend. You guys don't want to get into what I believe. Yes, you will. I don't know. No, I really, I really, really do. Because I believe in the Bible, but I also believe in all them other books that... we're outside the bible like the book of enoch and and all that stuff i think puts into perspective and those are all like forbidden books so i'm not gonna get into
Well, the Book of Enoch's not a forbidden book. It's the Apocalypse. It just wasn't put into the canon for a reason. But, I mean, all the Book of Enoch is is basically an extrapolation from... you know what happened during the flood it gets into fallen angels all that type of stuff yeah so then what my god is and what her god is is going to be two different gods yeah well do you do you have a reason why you think that that should be canonical
I don't understand that, though. No, I mean, wait, explain what that means. Well, people put the Bible together and left that book out. Do you know why they did that? I mean...
Why did they do that? I think they did it because they don't want us to know the truth. They did it for power. They did it for control. I think that's what religion was really... um made for i think the word i mean this was this was a very public debate it was very yeah it's a very this debate is crazy as well i don't want to get into it i mean it was i'm saying at the time when they were putting when they were putting these books together to make the bible
It was publicly debated which books are going in and which ones aren't. And the way that they're able to verify this is they're looking at, is this a third-party source or is this something that actually came? uh you know from the apostles themselves there was good reasons why they kept many books out yeah i'm not gonna dive too deep into things because you know i'm not um
I'm not even going to get into it, actually. Well, I mean, I feel like religion was created for comfort. Well, I was just curious about your beliefs on the... this creator of yours. That's all. Yeah. I mean, I believe in God. No, it's God. I just think that like, um, you know, I'm not, I can't, I don't want to speak to too much on it just cause I don't want to, but, um, I think that.
The Bible and the stories in the Bible were translated. Also, a lot of the kings and stuff made them a lot of these. Things different, false, yeah, to have power among people. So you don't believe in the same God because God, we believe he is who he says he is, which says that the eternal scriptures have not been tampered and that they are true. And then every single word is God breathed.
But you don't believe that. You think it's manipulation. You said you believe in the Bible, and when we were talking about gender roles specifically, you were like, you guys are religious, of course you believe that. We believe that because we believe in the Bible, but didn't you just say you also believe in the Bible? Hold on.
Scoot your mic a little bit. Well, some stories in the Bible aren't meant to be word for word. Okay, so you believe some of the Bible. I mean, I do believe in the Bible, but I also believe that the Bible has been manipulated by kings and all types of people. So you don't believe God is who he says he is? in the bible i mean she's definitely right there's tons of bibles which have been manipulated by kings yeah king james
Right. There's no, I mean, there's no doubt that that's true. I just, I'm not sure. I mean, I'm not trying to get information about your creator. I just, I believe the Bible stories are correct. I believe like certain things like.
A lot of the stories are correct, but I also believe that it's been manipulated, so I don't think it's the whole truth. I think there's a lot of truth missing out of the Bible that you can find. I mean, I'm not sitting up here saying I'm a Christian, so I don't believe you have to.
to pick and shoot i don't believe i think you can't pick and shoot we don't believe in this you know i'm saying yeah i mean well i mean like it's all a greater force like we can't comprehend it and i mean either way like there's stories in the bible thoughts on the religious conversation yeah i'm good we can move it Well, I have a question for Andrew. Did you agree that you believe that some of the Bible has been manipulated?
And that God didn't have sovereign control over that? Yeah, I believe that Protestant churches constantly have manipulated the Bible. Everything to the feminist Bible, which they wrote, the brand new Bible, which was a feminist version. several Protestant churches.
uh making their own scripture like uh for instance i would consider mormons to be protestants i consider jehovah's witnesses to be protestants i would consider those to be extra canons which they added which they're not allowed to do like the mormons did with joseph smith So yeah, there's been tons and tons of modification when it comes from Protestants. I'm saying like a basic NASB 1995. Do you think it's not fully true? Yeah, it doesn't have the deuterocanons. Yeah, so it's not complete.
So, like, what do you mean by that? With full apocryphals in it? Yeah. I mean... Right? It's not complete. I mean, I believe God, I mean, my opinion, I believe God has sovereign control over everything. That's my piece. Over everything. I know, but, but, but, but. I'm correct, right? Is it the full Bible or not? I mean, God allowed it to be taken out for a reason, and he knows better than you and I. Do you not agree? No, he didn't allow. The original church put the Bible together.
And we're still using that same Bible to this day. You're using a different Bible. I don't know what Bible you're using, but it's not the Bible I'm using. Can I see your Bible? Yeah, well, no, I'd have to go upstairs to get it, but yeah, it's going to have things in it that yours clearly doesn't, right? You just said it yourself. Right, yeah, the Apocryphas. Yeah, so, I mean...
But you just got done saying something different that's never been modified. It's clearly been modified. I'm not saying it hasn't been modified. I'm saying, do you think that God didn't have sovereign control ultimately over his word? Yeah, and I'm still reading his word. You're reading something that's not complete, that was not the original Bible, which was put together by the church. But how do you know I haven't read Apocrypha's? I just don't have it in a Geneva Bible.
Yeah, why isn't it in the Bible, in your Bible? Why not? Because I believe that God allowed it to be taken out, that people didn't need it. Okay, well, Joseph Smith believed the same thing. He believed that God allowed him to add to it.
But it just has nothing to do with our salvation, and I think a lot of people fall to idolatry. What does that have to do with anything? Wait, wait, wait. Back up, back up. The question is not whether or not, leaving the salvation question to the side. Yeah, thank you. Talking about... And this, by the way, Bible that I read. But talking about whether or not it has to do with salvation would be the same argument Joseph Smith would make. The question is...
How can you make the claim that you're not reading a modified Bible when you're reading a modified Bible and you know you're reading a modified Bible? I don't know where you came up with this idea. You're not. You are. They all have translations based on, you know, the language and stuff like that.
But I just, like I said, I believe that it reflects God's word, and I do think God has control over that on what goes on. Well, then, okay, so then if that's true, God also has control over this Bible that I'm reading. And if this Bible that I'm reading is different than the Bible that you're reading, are you saying that the God that I'm worshiping is different than the God that you're worshiping? Or did he give me a different Bible for some reason? Thank you. Not necessarily.
But what I was... Then I don't understand. There's only going to be one Bible. There can't be multiple Bibles. Are you talking to me? Yeah. I'm trying to fix your microphone. Oh. If you guys look into the camera right, this is what, look, I know it's annoying for me to go mad about this and interrupt this conversation.
what you guys end up often doing is blocking your entire faces with the microphone we want you guys here you can see chin mouth speaking into the microphone you guys end up blocking your whole face we can't see you just try to be cognizant of that go ahead Yeah, so anyway, so I'm just saying to you that when she claims that there's all sorts of modifications which have happened to the Bible from Protestant sects...
I don't see how she's wrong, because that's true. No, I'm not arguing that. Oh, he can't hear me. I'm not arguing that. What I was arguing was she was saying that men manipulated it to... to use it for their own power and self-gain to manipulate them they have done that i mean she's not wrong about that either they definitely have done that i don't believe that
You don't believe that any men have manipulated the messaging in the Bible for the purposes of power and control? Really? I mean, maybe they've taken the context and the terms and... twisted it to their own use but no i really do believe that the bible is you know god breathed i'll die on that hill so okay so so let me get this right let's let's see if we can untangle this mess real quick
Do you believe in prosperity doctrine, prosperity gospel? No. Okay. How are men not using the Bible and twisting it? That's not what I said. I didn't say people didn't use scripture. I'm saying that the scriptures were not. taken like written scripture, then taken, twisted, twisting God's words like in the Bible to hand to more people to be misunderstood. I believe if you got dropped off on an island with a Bible.
You can find salvation in Jesus through getting to know God through his word. You mean natural law? Natural law. Yeah, I mean, so you're saying absent of Bible. Absent a Bible, if you're dropped on an island, you would still be able to come to Jesus Christ, right? Yeah, well, I said with a Bible, but without a Bible, yeah, God is manifest within you, so every person is without excuse. Why do you need a Bible at all?
Well, if you're lucky enough to have one. Yeah, I know, but why do you need one at all? Can you each make your final statements on this? Go ahead. Yeah, I'm not sure. Yeah, I just want to know, why do you need one at all if you're just going to come to the truth anyway?
I think that that's not what we were talking about. I'm just saying that I believe the Bible. That's my question to you. My question to you is this question. Why do you even need it at all if you're just going to come to the truth anyway? You don't. You really don't. You don't have to have a Bible. Everyone knows that God exists. The moral law is written on their hearts, and God tells us so. God is manifest within you. People won't deny that. So you don't need the Bible?
I'm just saying you don't need the Bible to know that God is real. It tells us that in the book of Romans chapter one. So what's the Bible for? If you want to get to know God's nature and character and to get closer to him, because if you love God, why would you not want to? get to know him through his word that he left here on earth for us. Final point from the both of you. That's it. I believe the Bible. We'll leave it there. Let God be true and every man a liar. All right. What did you say?
It's a scripture. Let God be true and every man a liar. Okay. I didn't hear what you said, so I was just asking. It's okay. All right. We have cheers to Brian and Andrew. Patience. Also, happy Father's Day to all the dads. Hey, thank you, man, for the soup chat. Appreciate it, dude. Happy Father's Day to all the fathers out there. Yeah, I did. Okay.
Hi, Brian. Long-time listener, second-time Red Super Chatter. Is Andrew in the studio? I'm kind of drunk, so I disregard my previous Ukraine comments. Great show. Ask the girls about the Talmud. No, I'm good. Isn't the Orthodox Study Bible based off the NKJV? Okay, thank you for the soup chat, but I mean, they probably don't even know what that is.
I do. New King James version? Yeah, New King James. No, that's not. The Orthodox. Oh, okay. All right. We have a question here from Stifler. Ask everyone to rate their looks. Total flip face body. On a scale of one to ten, can't pick seven. Starting with five. You. I try to switch it up. Ten all the way around. 10? Yeah. Now, he does ask total face body. Is it 10, 10, 10? Yes. I think God made me perfect. Okay.
I'll come back to that. Let me actually write this down. God made you, although you don't believe in God. I do believe in God. I never said I did it. She's the one saying I don't believe in her God. All right. So hold on. I do. I believe in the creator. What about you?
I don't know. Wow, you're really far from that microphone there. Jesus. Okay, sorry. I'm like, I haven't slipped either. Seven's my favorite number. Right now, I'm going to have to go with like a six. I'm not going to lie. So total face body. I could go at eight on a good day. Total, face, body. Eight. Total. Yes, so I'm asking for three answers. So what would you... Oh, so are you saying eight for all? Yeah. Okay, all right. Eight for the face and six for the body. Okay, so total? Fourteen.
14. No, no, no. Oh, okay. That was me too. I was like, no. So like, okay, your total count could be 10 max. Face could be 10. Body could be 10. But you don't add the two numbers together. Yeah, eight for the face and then six for the body. Okay. What about you? I'm going all sixes on mine. Going to you over there. I feel like six on the face. I want to pick, like, I can't pick seven. 7.5 for my body. Okay. Yeah, 7.5. Six.
For total, I would do six, face, six, body, seven. Oh, I can't. Eight. Okay. So since I can't say seven for anything, I think my face would be closer to an eight than a six. Body, probably six. And then total, probably closer to a six than an eight, so six. And can I... quickly follow up with this by asking if we can go around one more time and ask from your personal perspective who do you think the prettiest girl in the room is oh
Starting with red bangs. Who do you think the prettiest girl in the room is? I can't remember her name, but over here. Oh, Lauren. Oh, Lauren. Okay. Oh, this is so hard to read. Everyone's beautiful. I'll see. Abigail? And by the way, you can pick yourself. That's fine, too. Oh, yeah, yeah, you can pick yourself. I'll put Abigail. So, Abigail? Okay. I don't know. I feel like everyone here is like... Don't weasel. Don't weasel. Can I like pass? No, you gotta answer this. Can I get one pass? Nope.
It's like everyone in here is like hot like the prettiest out of all the hot girls that you see is I pass Well, we can't force her to dance. We can't force her to dance. Yeah, I guess. Probably these two ladies right here next to me. I like them. I think they're very pretty. Which one do you think? Both of them.
Who's the prettiest girl in the room? I want both. They're going to play this game with you, Andrew. Yeah, we just want to play this game. I don't want to answer that question. I didn't know we could get out of it. I really tried to. My turn? Yeah. Grace? Yeah, I'd say so. I find you very attractive. You're gorgeous. Thank you.
Oh, fucking love interest. Oh, okay. Robert Tanner, hey, Andrew, do you have your own channel? If okay, I would like to follow, though I am a Western Roman Catholic. Yeah, he does have a channel. We're going to rate him after our show. It's The Crucible. So, yeah, be sure to go subscribe to Andrew. Are you at 100K, Andrew? Just shy. 2,000 shy. Guys, we're getting Andrew Wilson.
We're getting Andrew Bartholomew Wilson. Is that his middle name? It is his middle name. Please don't bully him, though. Please don't make fun of him. Please don't make fun of him. We're getting, boys, we're getting him to 100K. fucking tonight perhaps during the stream boys there's hold on wait now could you show us the view count show us the view count we can do this i'm pretty sure we can do this tonight guys we have 8 000 on youtube 2 000 on twitch
Can the mods put his channel in the description? Guys, we're getting him. Did somebody fart? Or is that just like... It smells so bad. I smelled that. I was like... It's from the outside. Yeah, I think it's outside. Is that like the sewer? It's like some sewer. I was like, hopefully none of these... Guys, we're getting... We're getting Andrew Bartholomew Wilson to 100,000 subscribers tonight. Okay? So go fucking drop him a sub, boys. 8,000 viewers, we can do it.
2k away right andrew okay all right get him to 100k get him that plaque baby okay all right you can hide that uh no i actually wanted to come back to the soul 10 ranking here uh and actually can you Can you snag her Instagram? My Instagram? Yeah, pull up her Instagram, Nick. It's Josie. It's the Josie one. Let me actually, don't pull it up yet. Let me just review it first before.
We, you know, hold on. Singer, rapper, model. Wait, you have OF? Did you say that during the intro? I don't think you did. No. Okay, well. She said she hustles. All right, she's got an OF. Hold on, let me. Not. Check it out right now. Just kidding. It's not that deep. What the fuck is going out there? Can I go look, please? No. I have free will. It's nothing. Don't even trip.
By the way, have you girls also noticed how much better the panel has already gotten now that the soul-sucking energy vampire has left? I'm just curious. Do you agree or disagree? I don't... I guess we have different topics now. I mean, content is content. Look, Andrew, to be fair, it was that time of the month for me before the show. Dude, I was super tilted. uh granted we had like flakes and we had two no-shows and then and a couple people running late but the no-shows that was pretty bad um
Late's not so bad. And she was also a soul-sucking energy vampire. There was also that. Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to think. Yeah, pretty much. She came in. I mean, I was kind of a little bit on edge. And then it's kind of like, have you ever like hyped up a dog and you just like start spazzing out a little bit and the dog starts spazzing? Like that's kind of what happened there. Like I was a little on edge and she was like, okay, let me.
Start to freak the fuck out too. But she was a bit rough. She was a bit rough. Nick wasn't able to lay down the law. because normally he does like a whole like 10, 15 minute pre-show, but we skipped the pre-show. I don't think we've ever skipped a pre, like pre-show instructions. Oh no, no, no, no. And that's Nick's favorite part of the show. Like I can, I can always see when I'm there. Loves it. Loves that.
More than anything, given the pre-show notes. Yeah, it's his favorite for sure. So, yeah, I think that didn't really set the stage for like... expectations and conduct and shit so anyways um met a conversation oh so going back to jody here miss work josie is that your is it actually with a z like that's your legal government name it's not my legal name okay word uh i'm just me i damn bro your instagram's kind of
Yeah, it's not. It's not. You shouldn't. You probably shouldn't. It's probably fine. I can probably. Yeah, don't. I did. So you said you were a 10, though. You're a 10 out of 10. Yeah. Total. Face. Body. And you said that God made you perfect. God made us all perfect. I have a question for you. Do you have breast implants? Maybe. Well, I'm curious, if God made you perfect, why do you need to get fake titties? Honestly, it's just something I wanted to do.
I liked my body before. Did God make you perfect before the fake titties? Yeah, I think so. I liked my body before. And I would have ranked myself the same. If the titties were already perfect. Girl, why are you looking at me like that? Me? Yeah, you. You're looking at me like, she judged me. I'm not judging, I'm listening, I promise. Scoot the mic a little down that way. Okay, I'm just...
I'm trying to understand because you said you're a 10. Because I'm not going to rate myself anything less than that. Now what other people want to rate me, they can. I don't care. Your opinion doesn't matter to me. Any other procedures besides the fake titties? Yeah, that's it. What do you have? I had lipo. You had lipo? Yeah. Where did they put it? In my butt. In the booty? Yeah. Okay.
Lip filler or anything like that? No. I haven't done nothing to my face. Do they call it a BBL? Yeah, I had a BBL. Okay, so fake boobs. I had my whole body done. Whole body? Yeah, well, my body. Okay, so boobs, lipo. BBL. Well, it was the light bulb was the BBL. You feel me? It was like done in the same procedure.
But they took from the lipo, because you could get lipo and just get lipo, right? Yeah, so I was really skinny. I actually had to gain weight. I had to gain like 20 pounds to get the procedure. Wait, hold on. What? I'm sorry. Hold on. I got to play something. You intentionally got fat? Yes. So that you could, so you were, let's say you were, how much did you weigh before you decided to intentionally get fat?
125. I didn't really get fat. I was just really skinny. You put on, okay, you gained weight. Yeah. I mean, 145 for my height actually isn't like any type of, it's pretty actually like regular. like weight for my height i was kind of actually on the skinnier like girl like skinny chicks will intentionally gain weight so they can have it removed so they can go back to how they
It's so they can get a BBL. Yeah. So they can get the fat in their booty. Okay. I'll be shared. Okay. All right. Okay. Pretty much. So it's for the BBL. Like they're not going to just get the lipo if they're going to gain, like they're going to use the fat. Put it. On the booty. Yes. Okay. That's still really... So even if God didn't make me perfect, right? Should I still rate myself less?
Well, I mean, like, you're, like, if you're, like, if you're perfect before, like, there's nothing wrong, I don't think. I don't know, man. That sounds like a lot of work. yeah it was just something i wanted to do you know i don't know i thought i liked how i looked before honestly i did a lot of like photo shoots um videos stuff like that beforehand but i just saved up a lot of money it was just something i wanted to do
It wasn't one of your, like, sugar daddies that paid for it? No, I paid for it. Oh, okay. And I don't have sugar daddies in here. Oh, well, I don't know. Earlier you were saying you want a guy to pay for it. But, okay, I'm just. Yeah, like, as my man, if he's going to be my man, like, you want to. Deal with me like that. I'm just confused. So, okay. There's the 10 thing. You said God made you perfect. Even if he did it, should I still make myself less? But, no, but...
But you said God made you perfect. You're a 10. He did. But then why would you need, if he already made you perfect, why would you need the BBL, the lipo, and the fake boobs? Because she doesn't really believe that. Wow, that's actually well put. Cutting to the chase there. That came from her mouth, not mine. Wait, so did you view yourself the same way prior to the cosmetic surgery?
Like, were you a 10 before the BBL? Yeah, that's what I said. I said I liked who I was before. I just wanted to do it. That's not the question, though. That's not the question. You said you were a 10 before the procedures. Yeah. If you were a 10 before the procedures, you wouldn't need the procedures. Do you understand what I'm trying to say?
to say no i was you understand no i don't well it's like i want a boob job and like say i say i'm an eight right now i'm gonna get the boob job don't think i'm an eight
Don't do that shit. Wait, what? I mean, not like super scary. You're going to do it? I've thought about it. You're going to get the fake titties? I thought about it, yeah. Don't do the fake titties. But I'd still be like an A. No fake titties. But I'd still be an A. This is me and Andrew Bartholomew Wilson. We are natural body supremacists. And we are.
against that fake shit. Get out of here with that fake shit. I don't know. I just fuck with anime titties like that. You want anime titties? I don't know. They look like anime titties. Is there something wrong with the titties currently? Not at all. There's nothing wrong with the titties? So why you gotta get fake titties? Because I just...
You just want them? Yeah. You just want them? Just because you want something doesn't mean you should get it. You got to do it. But I want to. So I got, you know. You got to stop hanging out with her, bro. She's a bad influence. I've been wanting a boob job before this. Huh?
I've been wanting one before this. I told my mom. My mom was like, sorry. What did your mom say? Is she supportive or is she like, fuck no? She's like, you're perfect the way you are. I mean, it's not that I'm not. I was made this way for a reason. What's your dad say?
I don't really talk to him about it. Oh, okay. I see. I don't know. I'm not like, hey, dad, like, you know, I don't know. Can I ask you a question about getting a boob job? Now, I did have my, you know, I had a breast augmentation before I became a Christian. Who would you be doing it for? You? Myself. For yourself? Not men at all. Nobody except for myself. So from my point of view, so I got a breast augmentation. I wish I wouldn't have now because I didn't do it for me.
I did it for men and, you know, approval. So I would recommend to like wait on something like that. Like it's not something you just want to jump and do because you could regret it. Oh yeah, for sure. How much do breast implants cost? I think like...
Anywhere from like 5k to like 10k, right? Yeah, I would say 7 to 10. Are you going to go on the low end or are you going to try to get like a better, you know, like one of those high end titty jobs? I don't want like boob cancer. I don't need that. I don't need whatever's in there. Ladies here who've had fake boobs or maybe you haven't, but you know about.
My understanding is, don't you need to get them replaced every like 10 to 20 years? You should, yeah. Because they start breaking down. So over the course of a lifetime, you could go, you could have anywhere from like three to four procedures. Yes.
So over the course of a lifetime, that's maybe $30,000, $40,000. You might have lifetime warranty cards. Oh, really? Yeah, I have lifetime warranties on them. I wish that was waiting for my team. You can get lifetime warranties on Vixits. They're silicone, not saline. Wow. You know? Wait, no, but hold on. You have, hold on. Yeah, but they come with insurance. Hold on, hold on. So you're telling me, you're telling me that the surgeon will redo the surgery for free?
Well, you paid for the warranty. I mean if you get a certain kind, yeah, you have insurance on them. You just pay for the anesthesia. Maybe you have to like pay extra. I don't know the details on this. You don't have to pay for the implants again. Yes, you got to pay to go under the knife. But you don't have to pay for the implants. I don't know what the cost of the...
I assume you still have to pay the surgeon to redo it. That's my understanding. Mine don't have to be replaced every 10 years, though. They've come out with new ones that unless something punctures or happens, you're fine. and they'll pay for anesthesia. All right, I don't know all the details. I was under the impression that you had to get them redone. In any case, that's not really the central point of my argument. But I'm just kind of confused here in terms of...
You said it's not for men. It is for men. Who's it for? Myself, because... it's not for men like i've always seen myself as a perfectionist so like when i look at my body in the mirror like i have a very specific way that i want to look personally for me because that's what other men like
Not men. Myself. She's not totally wrong. Well, I don't want to play a role. Kim Kardashian has done absolute destruction on women's mental psyche. No, that is very true. So do you want to get anything done besides the breast implants? No. You don't want, like, the lipo and the... I don't think... I mean, I don't know. Like, I don't think I really need it. Ladies, don't do that shit.
Well, yeah, no. I mean, everyone's like perfect the way that they are, but if they want to exemplify... Even if you're not perfect. Even if you're not perfect. Even if you got small titties, don't do that shit. Even if one titty is bigger than the other.
Don't do that shit. I guess it's preference. Even if one titty is like a little leaning that, pointing that way, the other titty is like you got fucking... uh what's it called when you got you got lazy titty not a lazy eye you got lazy titty if the lazy titty pointing that way at one point you don't need it you'll find a man who will love your lazy titty
There are men out there who will worship your lazy titty. I mean, like, who cares? I mean, but, like, who cares what the men think about, like, my tits? You know, like my tits are my tits. I don't know. Wait, if you don't mind me asking, what's the current cup size, I guess? 32D. Wait, what? You have a 32D? You, huh? You already have a... I'm doing that shit. I'm doing it on purpose, boys. You already have a 32D? Wow. Isn't that like the most desired already? You got that natural? Nice.
It doesn't look like it. That's like me already having a big dick. That's like me already having a big dick and be like, well, let me just. Make this shit bigger. I mean, just some shit. I don't know. This is one of the saddest. This is the saddest thing. No, wait, wait. I want to know. know like something i hear this all the time and it's like tell us men also
go to the gym to get bigger, stronger, and whatnot. Is that any difference? It's absolutely different. Men will straight up admit that they do that to be more attractive to women. The difference is women never admit to...
Doing that to be more attractive for men. Well, if I got, like, say, I don't know, like, veneers, like, that'd be to be more attractive to men, but, like, a boob job, like, I don't know, just be for myself. I've just always thought like that. Wait, just to be clear, you're, you think... Men will care more about your teeth. I have British teeth. I have an ear. Show me your teeth.
Your teeth are beautiful. Your teeth are gorgeous. Nobody here has ever noticed them, so it's just something the only you notice. I feel like teeth are actually more for me. Whatever they want to do. Don't let these men or women tell you otherwise. Don't get carried away either. One at a time. Go ahead. Whoever wants to make a point. I just said, I think people, women with their bodies and men with their bodies should do what they want.
Don't let other women or men tell you otherwise. But I do. No, no, no, no. Hold on. Can I finish? Can I finish? Go ahead. Because what I was just going to end up saying was just don't overdo it and don't get body dysmorphia. That's literally what's causing y'all to get this fucking plastic surgery. Sure, you're right. I have body dysmorphia and that's why I want to get it. No, no, no. But hold on. You have... Listen. I'm going to get... Don't worry about...
If it comes for me, I'm going to take the bullet. Okay, wait. So you said, wait, I'm sorry. Repeat what you said. I got distracted by the moth. You said you had body dysmorphia? Yes, I have body dysmorphia. Okay, but you also have agency, right? You have control over yourself, right? For example, make a fist right now.
Just make a fist with your hand. You have control. So instead of just seeding, instead of capitulating to your supposed... body dysmorphia who knows if what if it's what if that's a lie what if that's programming from society that's in your head what if you don't even have it but let's say you do you can be steadfast and say I'm not fucking buying into this. Fuck no. I'm not going to be... I'm going to be in control of my mind. My mind is not going to be in control of me.
Do you understand? I mean, I do try to do that, but I mean, I do everything. Right, but you got to stifle that shit. You got to grab that shit. I'm tired, bro. I'm tired. I've tried that. Tired of having 32 Ds? Yeah. The fuck, bro? You're already... You're good. No, it's not enough. You're tripping, bro. This girl's got 32 Ds. She wants bigger, bro. What's that scene from Wolf of Wall Street? She's already got triple Ds. She's already got double Ds, but now she's getting triple Ds.
Like, I don't know. And it's okay to, you know, admit like... You want other people to view you sexy like those other women on social media. You want that attention. It's okay to admit that. Fuck that shit. Just be honest about it. A lot of women make a lot of money off of having a nice body. It depends. I feel like it wouldn't be for attention. Even if you had small titties, I'd be telling you, like, it's not like, oh, your boobs are already good. Even if you had small boobs, saggy boobs.
Pointing in two different direction, boobs. I'd still say this shit to a girl. But, I mean, it's kind of even more crazy for you because you already got the titties. But why you gotta... Look, okay, hold on. I need you. Do you know the word constitution? Yes. So constitution, not like the constitution. Not like the constitution. You need to curate and develop a constitution that responds to the programming that you've been fed through TV and movies. Society.
fucking Kardashians, you need to say not today. You got to say not fucking today. And you got to stifle that shit. You got to push it down. And you got not only just that, you got to fucking destroy that shit. a perfectionist like i think that i already look good but i'm just like
Wait, wait, here. He's not for attention. It's for me so I can feel comfortable. Okay, perfectionist, right? What if I told you, and I know you said you're not doing it for men, but what if I told you that actually from a purely aesthetic perspective that... Actually, fake breasts... Do I have a lisp? Fake breasts are less aesthetically pleasing to the eye. No, for both men and women.
For both men and women, fake breasts are, they don't look right. No offense. No offense to you either. That's okay. It just, I don't know, bro. It's like, especially like these girls who had nothing before. It looks like. I don't know. The skin's too tight on that shit. It don't look right. It depends on the doctor and the sizing and everything like that. Oh, it doesn't matter. I ain't ever seen... But if I like it, then I like it, you know? I ain't ever seen some fake titties, then I'm like...
Her titties look better now. You ain't seen the right sit then. Dude, I trust you. Oh, God. I've seen a lot of titties in my day. I've never been to the strip club in the Humbley. I'm sure there's a lot of crazy titties in there and a lot of nice ones too. A lot of real ones, a lot of fake ones. A lot of men prefer, here's the crazy thing, you already have nice boobs. So it's like, men already are going to like what you got going on.
Yeah, but it's not for men. So is it for you? Like I know that some men don't like that and I'm just like I don't get it. I mean like it's like if you're like per se really short and like you don't like i don't know is that like a thing do the guys i don't know so you're really sure you want to be taller and you're like oh i want to get like taller surgery and i and i would but that's for the other sex though that would be for the other sex i mean i mean
I'm trying to think of an example. I'm trying to think of an example of something that would be like a boob job to a man. But he would do it for himself. What if you had complications and you had lost sensation?
That would suck. What if you died under anesthesia? That would also fucking suck. Yeah, but you're willing to take, you're literally willing to risk the chance of death, albeit low, to make your... how big do you want to go like a size bigger so like you're you're single d and you want to go double d is that correct so you're 32 d you want to go 32 double d
Okay, so you're willing to risk your life, albeit it's a low chance of death, for slightly bigger fake tits? Well, I mean like... I mean, people get on airplanes to go to fucking Ibiza and there's a slight chance of death, but they still do it.
Yeah, sure. And, like, the statistics were low. Like, at least in, like, because I wasn't under. It's actually a fair argument. It's more likely to have, like, capsular contractions and other problems with, you know. Yeah, and I know the risks, but it's also, like, I was also, like, my first year of college, like, we didn't. study that kind of stuff, but I wanted to be an anesthesiologist. So I was in pre-med, but it's like, all I remember from in pre-med was like this statistic.
I'm too tired to finish my sentence. No, you're fine. I'm like seeing the moth still and I know it's not there. Where did it go? I don't know. Because normally I'll hear like... It's rare to hear this from a girl who is already well in doubt. I don't know what the term is. But like, you know, it kind of makes a little more sense if like the girl has small boobs or it's flat. I'm still against it. But like...
At the end of the day, it's for them, yeah. Like, you do what you want to do, like, shit. Okay, like, what about a mom? Say... Yeah, they always go to this... Okay, what's... I'm 36DD. I went up to a triple D when I was pregnant with my son. Then I had my daughter. Breast people suck the life out of me. And they've shrank some. So then there's that extra skin from where it's stretched.
Getting a boob job to get bigger to where it was would make it where... For your fullness. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, if I... Let's say I just grant that I'm fine with that, although I'm not. I still think prior to that, I just don't get it. I don't get it. Sometimes I feel like men just want to keep us ugly.
Keep us in a closet. Keep us ugly. Are you saying she's ugly? No, she's definitely not ugly. What the fuck? But as moms, we have these kids. Look, exactly. You go from regular titties to big titties back to small titties. I think a lot of men. Let me ask you a question. Do you think that most women who get breast implants are doing it under those circumstances? I would think so. You think most fake titties... Because they want them. That's really vitty-vitty.
No, you gave me an example of women who've breastfed and there's changes to the breast. I would argue most breast implants are not for like something corrective, but it's just like some chick, never had kids, wants big fake titties. That's probably the majority. Oh yeah.
I mean, it's probably like 50-50. It's definitely not 50-50. You don't think so? I feel like girls get it more because they want them, not because they're... I didn't get my body done until after I had a kid, so... I did it so I would be more sexually desired by men. That was my reason. That's what I'm saying. Look, I've done polls.
in the chat for the show i've done twitter polls and i'll ask men do you prefer would you prefer a woman with small natural boobs or a woman with big fake boobs and it's like 80 90 percent of men prefer natural even if they're small i feel like men a lot of times like say they like natural this that and the other but then they go
and cheat on their girls with these crazy bbl bandits and whatnot going on and i'm and i'm definitely not like an advocate for plastic surgery so i'm definitely not saying like go get that done but I just I feel like I see it all the time where like even for example like a guy I previously dated you know we always tell me oh I you're so skinny I really like this and that but then went and cheated on me with girls who were like
all done up and it's like bro that's what you really like you really like that like i'm just i'm just the whatever the one that's here dealing with you like type of thing so i don't know i just feel like men say they like this and like that but do they really because why are all these women then going and getting all these surgeries i have a question because okay go ahead go ahead i was gonna say if we didn't have like social media the way we do do you think
women would have as much plastic surgery like if there was no social media do you think there'd be any fake boobs at all no i i think there'd be less of them because i was actually just thinking about this today because i think that sometimes like with the occurrence of only fans you know with with that happening i think that like what would happen is is like that temptation would be out there the guys would see it and i think that maybe the
girlfriend or wife would be like, why are you looking at that? Like, maybe should I go get my stuff done? Like maybe they cross their mind. Yeah. I agree with that. Yeah. The Kim, the Kardashians have absolutely savaged. Like, generations of women. Blame them. Well, I put some blame on them, but I think you as women on the individual level need to have agency and be like...
I'm not going to buy into what society is telling me. I'm not gonna buy into this. I'm not gonna put my health at risk. I'm not gonna waste all this money. I'm not gonna do it. I'm not gonna do it. And that's why the patriarchy needs to come back. So one, so we can ban and outlaw cosmetic, purely cosmetic surgery. Men get cosmetic surgery. Yep. And they don't talk about it.
Gotta ban that shit too. And they don't talk about it. They keep it in the closet. They begin height surgery, all types of stuff. And they will never tell you. Yeah, and I'm not in favor of that either. I'm not in favor of that either, I guess. There's not very many men who are getting height surgeries. A lot. A lot more than you think. Just so you know. We'll talk to a surgeon. How many do you think I think are getting it?
I mean, I don't know, like, a percentage. I want to know. Like, obviously, not as high as a percentage. When you say a lot more than you'd think. A lot more men get cosmetic surgery than you think they do. A lot of men get lipo. A lot of men get abs. Yeah, but that's not what I said. I said. that a lot, most men, I'm sorry.
Basically, no men anywhere are getting height surgery. There's a few, but there's not very many at all. It's very dangerous. They break their legs. It's not something that most men would ever even consider, honestly. It's a very invasive procedure. That's not the only cosmetic surgery.
They have penal injections. Men get cosmetic surgery. They have penal injections to make your penis bigger. They do that too. That escalates. Yeah, they do. I'm not going to talk about it. Men are not going to come open on a podcast like women are and be like, yeah, I got this and this.
and this and this done ah they're not going to do that whatever what's your point um i just wanted to ask what wow wait wait wait my question i wanted you to answer hang on hang on i got to take issue with this uh no i think that there would be just as forthright as women women you just can't hide it
You just can't hide the shit that you've had done. Like we can tell when you've had nose jobs and your Brazilian butt lifts and your boob jobs. You can't hide that shit. You know what I mean? That's the distinction. But you think that we can't tell on men, too? We can tell on men, too. If they've had a bunch of plastic surgery, you can easily tell. It's not like it's something where we're like, oh, wow, I didn't know that. I didn't even notice. Go ahead. Go ahead.
Oh, I wanted to ask you, do you think that like plastic surgery is a byproduct of social media and that it wouldn't be around if social media? I mean, plastic surgeries existed before social media. There was depictions in all kinds of media prior to social media. I mean, if you look at the 80s and 90s, these big giant fake titties that look fucking terrible, terrible, were kind of, you know, I feel like the...
I feel like for a period they were kind of falling out of favor, but then Kardashians came around. Now it's just ridiculous. Now it looks fucking terrible. BBLs, no offense to you. BBLs look fucking terrible. I've never seen. It looks like women are dragging a full diaper. It doesn't. That's what it looks like. It looks like women are dragging a full diaper. It gives me Uncanny Valley. It just doesn't look right. Also, the lipo belly. Because I need a better doctor.
There's no such thing as a good looking BBL. I'm sorry. I've seen one. I didn't even know it was a BBL. And great boob jobs. I'm not into that. I mean, like I saw this one and I didn't know. I mean, look, I looked at your Instagram. We're not going to pull it up. I did know this on your Instagram. You have pretty, very evident scarring, I believe. Is it from your lipo? Where?
You don't have scarring on your belly? No, I have no scarring on my belly. Sorry, I don't know if it's scarring, but lipo tends to... I feel like my stomach doesn't even look warped like the lipo bellies you're talking about. I can find the photo if... If you're fine with me pulling it up, I do need to just double check and make sure it's not like...
Or you said you were pregnant, right? So it's not clear to me if these markings on your belly are from your pregnancy or from the lipo. So, yeah, I have a kid. I'm not pregnant right now. Anyways, we're not going to pull it up. Well, then I can't tell you. You're not aware of the markings on your belly? Yeah, if you want me to point it out, I mean...
It's no scarring. They didn't lipo me right here. They didn't do anything right here. The lipo was done on my back and like way down in my bikini line. You can't see the scar on any of my pictures. Okay, so then maybe it's from your pregnancy then, the scars. It's not scars, but I mean, if it's a stretch mark. Okay, well, I mean, I've seen like...
The lipo belly, it does tend to, if they get it from the lower abdominal or the mid-abdominal, it does distort the belly, the front belly. Maybe you got it from a different region, but...
I think that has to do with post-op care. I think women go into surgery a lot of times, not very educated on how expensive post-op care is and stuff. So you've got to get massages, and you're supposed to get them for like... four six months after your surgery um most women can't afford that it's like a hundred dollars of
massage and then the first month you need them every single day so in the first month you're gonna spend two three thousand dollars just on massages and then you're supposed to keep getting them so if you don't do that you're gonna have a a lipo crazy looking belly because all that fluid is still stuck in your stomach and that's what makes it look like that i love how educated you are though like like you have full range to speak on it because like it's like you were educated
Wait, you're like co-signing her cosmetic surgery? Well, I think that I don't have to agree, per se, what she's saying, but... But she is educated. She is educated on the topic. Yeah. Okay. Look, I'll just say this. I'm a natural body supremacist. Exactly. So he's not going to agree with anything. Well, okay. For example, I'd rather a girl with an A cup over, like, she could be flat.
over fake tits i'd prefer like a little even a little belly fat over lipo i'll take a small ass over a bbl i'll take a small upper lip over lip fillers basically you can just take any woman who's had these procedures and i'd prefer them as they were before having got the procedure. And I genuinely think a lot of men feel this way. And I do think, ladies, you kind of, at least when it comes to your dating prospects, I know you guys aren't like, it's not for the men.
let me just grant that fine you're not doing it for the men it still hurts your dating prospects i i genuinely think because i think a man who does have his head on right is gonna see a woman who's got all this cosmetic surgery and like it's gonna kind of like Make him consider like, okay, someone who has a lot of plastic surgery, that's a proxy for body dysmorphia. You can just speak on yourself.
really no i'm speaking for a lot of men no because there's a lot of men who date a lot of women that are where's the ring what's the name cool guys will you There are plenty of men in wrong relationships with women. Look at all these celebrities. All their women are BBL'd up out. And they're degenerates. Says you.
Do you think society would be better if women didn't feel a need to get plastic surgery? Do you think society would be better? Like, would it be better for women if there was no plastic surgery?
Because if nobody could get plastic surgery, then there would not be this competition thing. I think some plastic surgery is like... good but then some is like way over the top like it just depends on like an example of a good plastic surgery what if somebody like wanted like had a big mole on their face and they wanted it removed like that's a plastic surgery the origin the origin yeah this is um hold on i'm sorry sorry go ahead and they felt like everyone was staring
gonna make the same argument Andrew the origin of plastic surgery was actually to to fix some sort of deformity or if somebody was injured in warfare, for example, half their face is blown up. Someone got in a, you know, they were in a fire, terrible disfigurement. I think in those circumstances, plastic surgery. is medically indicated and justified and it will improve their quality of life. It's not clear to me if most plastic surgery that's done today is
done for these same sort of righteous reasons. It occurs to me that it's typically done for vanity. I want bigger boobs. I want a flatter stomach. There's not a medical indication for putting plastic. There's actually... I don't think really any medical indication for implanting plastic into your chest. There's no medical justification for that.
Yeah. And not fine. I'll grant in the case of a woman getting breast cancer, she has a breast removed. I'll grant that. Or like kids and then it's all, you know, she feels like. I'll grant that too. I like it. I like plastic. In the case of a single woman who's never.
who's never had children and who doesn't have breast cancer, I can't think of a medically indicated reason for why she would need plastic surgery. I don't think anyone needs plastic surgery unless you have one of those medical, like I don't need plastic surgery, but I'm like, I could.
I think if someone had a deformity or felt like people were staring at that instead. I remember when I was younger, I had something that people I felt like were staring at constantly and I just felt so self-conscious about it and nobody cared about it but me. So when I got older, I paid for it and then it was gone. And I was like, wow.
I feel so much better now. I feel like people aren't staring at that anymore. That's cool. It's good. But yeah, like you said, if it's over the top, then it's not... Andrew, you wanted to come in on something? Yeah, so it's a conflicting topic for me. I've thought about it far more than I probably should, but because I'm on the show so much, I kind of had to dive into it.
So some of the conflicts I have would be, so you brought up a good one. What if you want to have a mole removed? Or what if you're morbidly obese and you lose a ton of weight, like you lose 700 pounds or something, and you know how they get that loose skin?
Yeah. And then they go in and they kind of cosmetically fix it and they stretch the stomach and this type of thing. I think what Brian is kind of pushing at, and I think I would tend to agree with this, is what we're looking at. We know kind of what...
a normal proportion of a human being looks like so we engage in society day in day out all day long we see hundreds and hundreds and thousands of human beings and hundreds of thousands over our lifetime this type of thing We kind of know what normal looks like and what normal proportions look like. And so if somebody has horrible burn scars or things like this, which can be kind of cosmetically brought back to what that standard of normalcy is, I think that nobody would really object.
But its cosmetic enhancements, suddenly that actually creates a different kind of disproportionality. And I think that that's what he's actually objecting to. And I think that that's what he means by a beauty standard that people would much rather see.
what they would consider natural proportions on people because, and why wouldn't we, right? We're kind of ingrained to do that. And so I think what happens often is women go, well, wait a second, I wish I had bigger breasts or I wish I had this or I had that. And so they'll get that enhanced, but then the proportions are totally off for their body type. It doesn't even look correct. And so you say, well...
But men will still have sex with me. Yeah, but so what? You know, they'll have sex at the two, at the end of the bar close, too. Who gives a shit if they'll have sex with you? That's not an indication that the beauty standard itself is actually good. Facts. And if I can actually add to that argument, do you think that the deciding factor, like let's say you are dating a guy and you do have BBL, lipo, fake boobs. Do you think he's with you solely?
Because of those things? Wait. What's that mean? Sort of, I guess. Do you think, like, if you lost those... alterations that you've made or you didn't have them you think he would dump you you think he wouldn't be with you i mean you think he wouldn't you think he wouldn't have even been interested let's assume you didn't have any of that
stuff when you met him you think he wouldn't have been into you had you not had those things no i think um he would i mean because i've def i've experienced that myself like when i got my body done i was dating somebody and um i was with them obviously before i had got my body done and i was with them after and it didn't really change the situation so well that's not really what i'm asking but
I guess what I'm asking is, is that say your life partner. Yeah, sure. Maybe you'll get attention from superficial men that want to fuck you. Maybe they'll keep you around a bit. Maybe they'll be your sugar daddy. I think superficial men will do that to anybody. Body done or not. You made a point earlier. Men will get with anything. So that really, whether you have your body done or not, doesn't matter as far as that goes. That's a fact. Men will get with anything. They will get with anything.
make you more attractive, I mean, that beauty's an eye to beholder. Like, it's up to your man and you, I guess. This man's laughing. All right. Can't really get through to you guys on this. But to Andrew's point here, again, and to your point too, I'm not against it. Even the examples Andrew gave, like the... If you want a mole removed, personally, I mean, if it's a minor one, who kind of cares? But, you know, if you've been, you were primary, like if you were obese.
And then you lost the weight, you had a bunch of loose skin. I think it's a little different, Andrew, there because I actually would kind of be fine with loose skin removal. There actually could be medically indicated reasons why it could potentially loose skin could present some actual physical discomfort. Charlie Tanner donated $200. European markets are opening.
I need to start my second job. You are all beautiful and deserve a lot better. Stay are you are. There are many man, myself that will take care of you. And I think the difference, thank you, Charlie Tanner. I think one of the difference here, though, Andrew, even though I'm actually fine with the, you know, fixing up the loose skin thing, is assuming this person wasn't obese.
And assuming at one point in their life, their skin was not loose. So by getting the plastic surgery, it is a return to how. Yeah. To the normal proportion. Yeah. Whereas. A woman who's not gone through breastfeeding, she's not doing a return to a previous breast size. She's not doing a return to how she used to be, her normal, how her body normally manifested.
Yeah, but there's a problem here. And the problem is this, is that you could be born disfigured. You could have like a disfigurement on your face or something like this, born that way. That's true. And then later technology becomes available that will...
fix this disfigurement so that you kind of look like everybody else who's around you i still think that that's good i think that that's fine like i would say yeah sure get it fixed you know what i mean well like so and i don't think you would object to that either right no for example like an example here might be like somebody who's born with what's it called? The cleft palate. Um,
Certainly, there must have been some point in history where there was no medical intervention for people who have cleft palates. Plastic surgery came around. We're now able to, these people who have... Is it called cleft palate? Missing cleft palate? I don't know. Now they can get that procedure when they're very young and they pretty much look just about normal.
totally normal don't object to that at all that's a disfigurement it's not clear to me if a woman who has small breasts for example it doesn't occur to me that that's a disfigurement Well, it's not a disfigurement. That's what I mean is by what's proportional. So have you ever noticed, for instance, that you can generally tell by the frame of a person?
when there's something wrong that's why when people are morbidly obese you you end up stopping and going wait something's wrong here because it's totally disproportionate frame so you go wait this is a sign that it's not healthy or you look back this type of thing that would be kind of ingrained in you as a sign of non-health and so I think I think kind of what what what I would get at is
When I look around me, I look at humanity, all the things that I observe about human beings, I can kind of tell when something's off, right? I can tell when, wait, this is not correct, the proportion is off, there's some sort of enhancement, or there's something... i think that you can generally tell about people just based on their body frame and so yeah i think that the attractiveness level does decrease there's a reason
that human beings look the way that we do and why we're super attracted to each other. And oftentimes these kinds of medical enhancements actually detract from that. And I think people don't see that. Yeah, I guess. Final thing on just the plastic surgery thing, then we'll move along. I just kind of see this as an assault against the physical and mental health of our mothers, sisters, daughters, girlfriends, wives, pretty much all women.
The cosmetic industry is a, it's like, well, I mean, when I say cosmetic industry, now it's going beyond just even plastic surgery, but like makeup, all this stuff. It's like half a trillion dollar.
global industry and they have a vested interest in frankly keeping women feeling insecure and self-conscious about their physical appearance and this could be through the sale of makeup through the sale of plastic surgery all this shit and so it's interesting to me there's like two there's almost like two feminist views on this one feminist view is women should be allowed to get these procedures do whatever you want you're a boss babe you should do whatever you want there's actually another
a different feminist view which actually acknowledges my position on this which is that this is sort of a societal attack on women essentially and that women are being uh there's this undue pressure and burden on women also men to get these expensive, dangerous, and unnecessary medical procedures that otherwise are not medically indicated. And so, yeah, I don't know. Anyways, I just think...
Andrew, you're a representative of the patriarchy. The patriarchy, our duty... right is to be protectors to protect women and we must protect them of attacks of mind and body and so for that reason well yeah well and so i think i think too that things at least from a man's perspective, often to comply with reason, even over whatever it is that we're feeling in the whim. So I think for most men's perspective, it would be unreasonable.
to say, oh, inject my penis with X so that it looks bigger. That doesn't seem to comport with reason when it gets to what the risk potentially could be. But what's interesting is that women seem to ignore these risks.
far more which is actually kind of bizarre to me i don't i don't really understand that well i mean you hear about all these stories uh with some of these cosmetic procedures women uh gets botched women die they have major complications they get uh mersa i think it's called the like really hard to uh fix uh infection or whatever madison's aunt uh wanted to get a bbl for it was a bbl right nick wanted to get a bbl
Madison, she's not here. She works for the Whatever podcast. She died from the procedure. She died from the BBL thing. uh you know kanye there's all sorts of complications which they i believe with breast augmentation your increase for cancer and breast cancer and everything else the risk greatly increase
There's all sorts of risks which are inherent to it, but I'm not really sure how that really comports the reason to do that exactly. It seems unreasonable to me. I just don't understand why it's done. I don't think ultimately... I haven't seen many boob jobs that look good, honestly. I really haven't, and I just haven't. And you can tell immediately, and you're just like, eh, okay. Listen, I'm on the small-titty committee. I'm on the small-titty committee.
I'm a, what's it called? I'm an advocate for small titties. Women come to me. I'm actually. Well, I'm not going to go that far. We've got to put some respect on the small titties. Okay, anyways. Also, there's 10,000 labiaplasties a year, which is every single one is just a fucking dagger to my heart. These poor women getting their...
Labia's chopped off. It's upsetting. It upsets me. I get very upset about it. Big labia matter. Hashtag big labia matter. Really the pressing issue of our time. Wait, there's one more thing on the fake titty thing. Totally forgot. Yeah, whatever. So let me get through the show notes. Then we're going to wrap up. Oh, do we? Wait, we do? What are the videos? We'll have to do it in another show. Let me read. Can I have you read these chats? Could you hide Andrew for a sec? Yeah, can you read these?
Blondie with the black shirt. You've been chewing on your fingernails and chewing gum at the same time. Gross. And pink shirt. You're not African. Stop trying to be something you will never be. Oh shit. I have a compulsive disorder because I have severe ADD. You have what? Severe ADD, like a compulsive disorder. Sure. Yeah, I suck my dick. Can you read this one?
The girl you kicked reminds me of a great value, Kiko, and the girl with the red bangs. In my personal opinion, you are the hottest one there. Thank you. honestly that girl i want to ask the chat nick if you can show us the chat i'm pretty sure that girl's worse than kiko and like think of her first few appearances not like she's become more reasonable we've been working on kiko she's become more reasonable i'm talking og kiko that girl was worse than kiko
For sure. But I think she did it on purpose. I think she was having fun with it. I don't think she was doing that on purpose to get you guys ticked off. Oh yeah, it worked. It worked. I was already kind of... She definitely tended to answer. Anyways. Oh, there's one more. It did what to me? Remember, she kept saying, I'm not going to say to you what you want to hear. I'm sorry. Read this, please.
Women need to chill with all the cosmetics and makeup. I'd rather marry someone with a monobrow and whiskers than a fake, yeah, plastic bim freak with caked on makeup. I'm not even exaggerating here. Word. Okay, thank you, handsome guy. I mean, to the Kiko one, yeah, I mean, that girl... is orders was orders of magnitude worse than Kiko at least Kiko would kind of she'd be kind of bratty and annoying sometimes but she would otherwise kind of be respectful and you could actually
Change her mind. You could change Kika's mind. You could reason with her or this other girl. I don't know. She triggered herself right off the show. What do I care? She rage quit. Anyways, let's get into some of the pre-show notes unless there's anything over there. Let's see here.
We have, hold on. I feel like there's something related to the plastic surgery stuff that I totally forgot about, but whatever. If it comes to me, I'll bring it back here. One sec, guys. Getting to my notes. Going to Lily. Lily, yes, me and my ex-boyfriend would hang out with this girl a lot. One time we went to dinner with her. I paid. Do you want to tell us the story? Oh, my God.
Yeah. Okay. So, oh my God, this shit's crazy. It's crazy. This shit's crazy. There's two. Okay. So he would, and I don't have problems with like. my boyfriend's, like, having female friends. Like, it's whatever. They're cool. So we would, like, go hang out with this girl. I never met the girl before. He just introduced her, and I was like, oh, like, okay, cool. And we went out to dinner with her one time, and, like, I don't know. I felt like...
i was paying for everything like literally everything from like gas to like i don't just like the dumbest shit and so we brought her out and ate with her one night and it was literally just us three and he would say like oh like like i'm sleeping over at like my like my family's house or whatever i don't know i found out later that that was his ex-girlfriend and that we were hanging out with her the whole time um another time he he got a tattoo and he would like
he would like ask for my card like if we were having dinner he'd ask for my card he'd be like like under the table and like pretend to like pay for it with my card um or like when he got a tattoo and didn't tell me that he couldn't afford the tattoo until after he got the tattoo at the front desk
So, yeah, that's so good. I don't know. I have some interesting stuff. That's not even that bad. Like, that's not that bad. That's not the worst thing that's happened to me in a relationship. Okay. All right. Let's see. You also said most people have been brainwashed by the media adult content when it comes to dating and intimacy. They have unrealistic standards. That's your hot take as well. Do you mean like both men and women have unrealistic standards?
Yeah, I think so, personally for themselves and other people. So I think I touched base on it earlier, but honestly, the media and like pornography and all of that has had like a super negative effect on like, and I can say like the reason that like...
I mean, I know a boot job exists from the internet, so obviously that's not necessarily... It's not a bad thing, but it's not a good thing. Wait, do you do OF? Mm-mm. Have you ever done any kind of sex work or anything? Hell no. Have you considered doing it? No. Okay.
All right. Not that there's anything wrong with it. Now, you said when it comes to dating and intimacy, a lot of people have unrealistic standards. Who do you think has... Who's more unrealistic, men or women? Honestly... i think that that's hard because i feel like for men it's like being like shredded in the gym and stuff like that which is like for women it's like oh like having like perfect tits and like a nice ass and like it's just like it's kind of different i guess so i guess it depends
Wait, you mean... Like, what do I mean? Unrealistic standards in terms of... Of, like, how they view themselves, like, their body and, like, how the way that they look and stuff like that. No, but I mean in terms of dating. Oh. sorry i'm like so tired i'm like trying to like stay on topic um yeah i think that or i was in a relationship one time where it's like he was and i would be scrolling through like instagram and i would see like
He would be liking all the girls with unrealistic body standards, like clearly Photoshop pictures. And I'd be like, oh, so that kind of put into my brain that that's what he wanted. So then I was like, oh, I have to be like that. I have to be like that when I was in that relationship. So I think that... honestly like the media and everything like that it definitely affects relationships because i don't know from personal experience it negatively affected me and him i guess as well
By the way, Nick, you told me before with this girl that Rage quit. You said that she had disagreements. Did she actually tell you what those disagreements were? I can't remember. exactly but it was basically like she'd seen the show it's actually funny so yeah oh you were there too yeah okay yeah she just said she hated the show i should have gotten into that but that would have been interesting to actually hear her criticisms
Because it's always interesting to actually see if people can flesh those ideas out. Actually, one of her friends just DM'd me. So apparently we had her friend DM'd us asking to be on the show. And I believe her name was Paloma, right?
yeah so they were originally gonna maybe come on in may but then we never i don't know they kind of ghosted uh and so that's probably how they knew about like how she knew about the show because they were originally going to come on but they flaked so uh anyways ah shit i should i was actually gonna get into the disagreement stuff but that's why i was telling her to stay but she left so
uh let's get into the rest of the notes here moving on to hold on we have lily we have abigail uh you're anti-feminist anti-sex work you have two sex workers here how do you feel uh you want to tell them to their face that you're anti whatever they're doing Yeah, I mean, I think. Who's the sex worker? You. How am I sex worker? You have an OnlyFans. I don't do porn on my OnlyFans. What do you do on there? Or nudity. What do you do on there?
Literally pose thirst traps. Like Instagram stuff, I guess. In a way, I feel like I don't think that's a... I mean, like... You do know that that's the perception, though, of OnlyFans, right? I mean, I don't care. Yeah, of course. And it's also a lot of... The description in your OnlyFans, it says, subscribe to see my archives nobody else has access to. Things might get real hot in here. Ask for personal videos, and then you say, no.
come have fun with me, but you've spelled that word. It's OnlyFans, of course. How are you not a sex worker? I'm sorry, you're a sex worker. Go subscribe to my OnlyFans and tell me what you see on there. Doesn't matter. Is part of your work... Trying to make a man make a man's pee-pee hard. Is that part of your work?
I mean, if they subscribe to my OnlyFans and that's what happens, that's not my fault. Do you think that men are coming to check out your sterling personality? But it's really just work videos. It's really just pictures of my life. Hold on. I'm eating bikinis. Actually, we might be able to...
I just want to know. Do you think that they're coming out and checking out your OnlyFans because you want to do long walks on the beach? Obviously not. I'm not stupid. Hang on. Hang on. Let me finish. Hear about how you're emotionally...
stable you are in your takes on politics? Or are they there because they want to see your boobs? You tell me. Which thing do you think that they're there for? I mean, I know why they're there and you do too. What are they there for? They're there to try to get sexy content.
Right, that's right. I supply sexy content. I don't do pornography. It's because you're a sex worker. And I don't do nudity. That's what that is. That's what sex work is. Having an OnlyFans does not make you a sex worker. People have OnlyFans and freaking do chef stuff on there. Who's a sex worker then? I mean, a sex worker is really somebody who sells their body for... Like you are.
How am I selling my body? I'm selling at OnlyFans. I'm sorry. Are you putting pictures of your body, which you've been selling to simps who give you subscriptions? I'm not even having sex with anybody. I'm not having sex with anybody, so how am I a sex worker? Sex is not a requirement of prostitution. I'm pretty sure it is. Don't pull it up until I say it. Oh, it is. Okay. I'm pretty sure it is. Let me just make sure I get this right.
If you were to go and just like fondle a guy's own ads, if you're just to go, you're never going to let me answer the question. If you were just to go fondle a guy's gonads, there's no actual sex, would you be a prostitute if he paid you money and you did that? I don't know. Ask the law. Ask law enforcement. Not me.
So you don't know by your own standard what a sex worker is? Then how do you know you're not one? No, I just, I'm not one. What? How do you know if you don't even have a standard for what one is? How do you even know what a sex worker is? You don't know what one is. What are you talking about? A prostitute or escort. That's a sex worker. Somebody who is going and getting money to have sex with somebody. Exchange. That's a sex worker.
No, because you could be showing up as a prostitute to give a sexy massage to a guy where there's no actual sex exchange. You're still a prostitute. I mean, I think you're still a prostitute if you have sex for money. Yes.
Now, if you show up to give somebody a massage and that's all you ever did, does that make you a sex worker? No. I don't know. Is that even illegal? No. Are the police going to call you a sex worker? No. So you're not a sex worker. You're just prattling. Stop prattling and listen. If you show up at a guy's house, you stop rattling. If you just show up at a guy's house, you take off all of your clothes.
You're still prattling. If you take off all your clothes in front of him, it's still prattling. If you take off all your clothes in front of him, it's still prattling. Anyway, if you take off all your clothes in front of him and you start masturbating, you're not a sex worker. You just want to make sure if he pays you for that, you're not a sex worker.
If he pays... Is that right? Yeah. Ask the police. Don't ask me. You don't have a standard for what a sex worker is? I know what I do as an illegal, so I'm not a sex worker. And I mean, it's legal in other places, so I don't know. So let me get this right. The only standard for what a sex worker is is what the police say it is. I mean, yeah, that's the people who came up with all that. Why is it even illegal?
So then so then if I can give you a single country that has the standard that only fans workers are classified as sex workers Then you would be a sex worker, right? if that's what, yeah, if they classify it. Oh, okay, great. I don't think every person with the OnlyFans is a sex worker. Not every person who does OnlyFans. By the way, I made an OnlyFans like two weeks ago, so...
I didn't say that every person who has an OnlyFans is a sex worker. I said that women who are selling sexual pictures on OnlyFans are sex workers. I don't think so. I would disagree, but okay. Yeah, I know, but anytime I give you a counter example, you just go ask the police. So any woman who sends a sexy picture, does that make her a sex worker? No. It's selling it like a subscription service. But okay, so then if a guy pays me.
For a sexy picture. And I'm not naked. That makes me a sex burger. It's sexual content. If you can go out and sleep with 50 guys and that would make you a slut. But it wouldn't make you a prostitute unless they paid you. Okay. So, again, if I'm getting paid, if I send somebody a picture of me in a bikini, right, and he pays me money, it makes me a sex worker. Yes.
All right, then by your definition, sure. Okay. But by society, by the law's definition, by 5.0, I don't think it's the same. By all definitions, it would be sex work. No, I don't think so. Whether they prosecute you for the sex work or not. Whether they prosecute you for it or not doesn't mean it's not. Here. I think... Wait, Andrew. So, on her OF, there's no... Wait, did you say you shouldn't have come on? Yeah, because you guys are just rude.
Well, how's it rude to call a sex worker a sex worker? I'm not a sex worker, but thank you. I'm a sex worker. That's true. That is true. I don't want to ever be labeled that. Thank you. Well, I mean, most people who are engaging in thing bad probably don't want to be labeled as thing bad. No, I don't. No, because I don't feel like... I feel like... It's a pride and respect thing, and just because I made an OnlyFans does not make me a sex worker, which I made, like, a month ago. So...
You're selling your body, which people are getting sexual gratification from on purpose so that they get sexual gratification from it. You are a sex worker. You're just coping. I don't know why you're coping so hard. I'm not coping. I think you're just trying to label me something.
and I disagree with you. Thank you. Okay, well, I'm sure that there's plenty of prostitutes who would disagree that they're prostitutes who exchange money for sex, but they're still prostitutes. I think if a woman is out selling coochie, she knows exactly what she's doing. You would label her a prostitute whether she liked it or not? Huh? So you would label her a prostitute whether she liked it or not? I think she knows she's a prostitute.
Yeah, but if she said I'm not a prostitute, you would still label her one, right? I'm selling a subscription to a website that if you want to go look and see pictures of me in bikinis and me shaking ass, which you can literally see on my Instagram. Same thing. Sure. And now I got to take my OnlyFans down because I just ruined it for all my fans. I actually wanted to do an OnlyFans where it was lunch dates and I got a...
So I like to just eat lunch. And yeah. Firework. Wait, Andrew, so what did I don't think so that she none of her images are public. On her OnlyFans, it's literally like a blank screen, but there are some descriptions that I think would actually help make the case. That's the point. Duh.
It's thirst traps. I just told you that. So from a TOS. I'm going to start doing y'all how y'all doing. Y'all like that. Let me talk though. So Andrew, from a TOS perspective, do you think there's any concerns there? Yeah, I wouldn't do it. I mean So to the viewers just just out of an abundance of caution, we're not gonna pull up
Okay, I'll just read the little, you know, in an Instagram post, you can put like a little description. So the same shit with OnlyFans. These are all behind a paywall. It's a $25 subscription. You have one that says big booty. You have one that says titties. You have one that says y'all want to see me take this off. removing your clothes that could go go subscribe and see what i do okay well seriously you want to find out so bad want to see it up close water emoji kissy face uh
Let's see. Body yaddy yaddy yaddy. I want to look up to you like this. Water splashing emoji. Winky kissy face. Booty cheeks. Would you C-U-M? See me at the club. Fresh out the shower. Slippery. And that's it. My dear, you're a sex worker. No, I'm not. No, I'm not. Thank you. You're a sex worker. You do OnlyFans. To the gal who self-identifies as a prostitute. Yes. Do you take off your clothes if men pay you? Yeah, if they, yeah, yeah. And does she take off her clothes if men pay her?
Well, I guess with the, I don't, I haven't seen her only fans, but I guess with, I would. I mean, even if it's not full nude, would you accept if a man paid you money to take off your clothes, even if it was not the full Monty? Well, I'm having, you know, full on sex with him. Yeah, I know. I get it. But would you take off your clothes for a client and not show them the rest of your body if that's what they wanted?
If that's what they wanted, yeah, but usually I sit down and I'm like, hey, it's got to be full union. And cause then I don't like people leaving the room if they, well, I don't like people being, being like, Oh, I let, I paid all this money and then didn't have sex with her. Like I'm like, Hey, if it was the client's request, that's what they liked. Oh, that's what they liked.
Okay. Yeah. I mean, I would, I would do it. Yeah, I would. And would you consider yourself less of a prostitute for showing up and only doing that? No. Right. So, I mean, because it's prostitution. So something they like. I masturbate to guys with their clothes on. Because you're selling your body. for sexual gratification even if even if you're not taking off all your clothes and getting penetrated right i agree totally agree couldn't agree with you more word all right moving on moving on uh
Y'all crazy. Y'all wild. Shit. Okay. Hold on. I'm going to make a couple adjustments here. One sec, guys. Okay. We're going to do the remainder of the show. TTS is 69. I'm going to hide this top one. And then we need to do a couple adjustments. Remainder of show TTS is going to be $69. Time permitting, we'll do a brief roast session. Actually, I think we might stay at $69 for the rest of the show. So are all strippers sex workers? Yep. All strippers are sex workers. Interesting.
Wow. Okay. Anyways. All right. I would go so far as to call all of them prostitutes personally. That's what I consider all sex workers to just be prostitution. Even if you only make content with your boyfriend? Hold on. Yeah, I mean, that's still prostitution. I'm changing these names. Oh, man. I don't see a way around it. your clothes on you're a sex worker just know that according to these men according to these men exactly right they sex workers too shit
Wait, can you say catch me outside really quick? Just go ahead and do it. No. Just say catch me outside. How about that? No. Come on. Are you going to pay me? I'll give you three bucks. I mean, that's what a prostitute would ask. Exactly. That's what I just said. You're going to pay the sex worker? By the way, Andrew, you missed the part earlier on in the conversation. Maybe you heard a brief part of it.
in order for her to be willing to date a guy and then well in order for her to sleep with the guy the guy has to be willing to pay her rent her car bill her uh utility bill Insurance, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. You did say that, correct? Yeah, I said I don't want to be intimate with anybody. They're not trying to provide for me, and that's just how I feel. So, prostitution. Sure. At this point, I guess.
okay all right that's more i'm like i guess i could be married to somebody they could be doing all that for me and it's still prostitution right that's more of like a what's the standard but okay they're gonna label it i mean it would be they want to label it gold digging prostitution escort say whatever it would be if the only reason that you're married to him is for the material is for the material exchange so if you were to it's not no that's not it i i genuinely date
If I like you, okay? If I'm going on dates with you, I like you. That doesn't mean I'm going to have sex with you, okay? But you said you could. That doesn't mean anybody can just have sex with me to pay me either. That doesn't mean that any guy can just come around. Hey, I'll pay your bills. I'm like, yes. Oh, my God. Come here. You don't think prostitutes can pick who they sleep with.
Obviously, duh. But that's not what a prostitute does. A prostitute is getting the money in every way she can get it. Listen, I would have to say that I think that if a woman is only with a guy... Because she gives him money to have sex with him that she's a prostitute. I don't know what else to say. It's like a caretaker role. It's a more traditional mindset, I think. Why would I want to be with a man who wants me to...
No. Well, I think it's a more, like, traditional, like, mindset. Exactly, I agree. It's a caretaker role. I was at a traditional mindset. No, listen. If I give you stuff for sex, you're a prostitute. No, it's not. I don't know what else to tell you. I'm not having a standard. Like, oh, my God. Okay, so, like, they said that, like. women are supposed to like like play the role right
This is playing the role. It's not that she's, like, fucking them to get money. It's, like, she, like, won't fuck them unless they, like, they can really take care of her like that and pay for her. She can pay for herself. Yeah, it's not like I need a guy to pay my bills. She literally, she literally, it's not like my only family can pay for herself.
My point was that if it were to be just transactional, I'm only having sex with this guy because of stuff I get. I don't see how that's not prostitution. At that point then, all traditional relationships are... You said you would not sleep with a man. They're not transactional. Yeah, but how is it all transactional if I like you? It's not transactional because anybody can make a transaction then. Not anybody can just make a transaction.
Like traditional relationships. How would a traditional relationship be? I'm going to explain it. You're going to provide and take care as a man, which you should do. Y'all patriarchy as man, right? Then is it y'all responsibility? Y'all with the patriarchy, right? Y'all believe in providing for women then? Do you believe women? Did you grow up in Harlem? No, you don't? Exactly. I've got to add, where did you grow up with the accent? Wisconsin.
I'm from Milwaukee. She's from the mean streets of Milwaukee, son. Put some respect. I'm just curious. The traditional thing. So how is it that housewives are prostitutes again? Huh? That's what you're saying, right? Housewives or prostitutes? Well, that's technically... No, no, no. That's kind of like what I'm saying. Andrews underscore blocks underscore X underscore WF underscore big underscore Mike donated $69.
Does a higher body count equate to a better chance of attracting a higher quality husband slash father to your future children? I feel like having a standard... Wait, answer the question. Answer the question first.
a higher body count equate to a better no definitely not um but i think that you know oh my goodness ulysses the pagan donated 69 dollars Most men that are overly open about their feelings is a grift The purpose take advantage, bang and then ghost A man that's stoic and logical will respect women and won't play games just to get laid
It's beautiful. Thank you, Ulysses. I just think men nowadays. But what I was saying. Wait, you think what? Oh, my goodness. Say it. I feel like nowadays women need to have a certain kind of standard because I think women end up. being put into positions where they have to raise children by themselves. Wait, they're put into positions? Oh, my goodness. Here we go. It was an accident. Oh, man. Oh, man. Listen, yeah, but okay, as a man, if you made a baby with a woman, whether you want it or not.
It's here. You're not taking care of it. Wait, aren't you pro-choice? Yeah. Aren't you pro-choice? So wait, women... Hold on. Okay. So you're saying... that men... I'm not saying men... No, because I know where you're going to go. I know exactly where you're going to go with this one. You're saying that men out here are these deadbeats for not wanting to take care of a child, but it's cool for women to murder their child
Is that, that's what you're arguing, right? Hold on, hold on. Answer the question. Actually, say this again. Hold on. Wait, no, now I'm interested. So, you have an objection to men being deadbeats, to not being willing to financially provide or be there parentally, custodially, but...
you're totally cool with women killing the child in the womb i mean what i i said i'm pro-choice but what am i personally okay with is different than other people but i don't want to judge other people in their situations just crazy man so
You might have to call prostitute sex workers. Shut up. Anyways, no. If a woman gets pregnant, what does that mean? You have unprotected sex. Okay, so as a man, whether or not you want... to keep the baby or whether or not the woman wanted to keep it or not say she did and you didn't want her to okay we used to have unprotected sex with her so you let me use that same justification for arguing that women shouldn't get abortions what
I didn't say that they shouldn't. No, but you said that for you personally, maybe you wouldn't get an abortion, but you're fine with other women. Getting abortions under those scenarios. That same scenario. I mean, if a woman wants an abortion. She can get an abortion. But it's never okay for a guy to leave the child, right? No, they're deadbeats. It's only bad when men do something. What do you mean? Either or. Women can be deadbeats too. So what are you talking about?
I'm confused too. I don't understand what she was asking. Where were we when we were talking about sex work? yeah what i was trying to say was basically that he was saying that the care the caretaking what they said earlier like that women fall into a role in a traditional relationship and they would fall under the man would be the
Bucky Larson donated $70. Dear blonde strumpet in pink, bow to Brian right now or else you are titled a sex worker. Please stop being a strumpet and stop doing only fans. Be better. and take of yourself. Yeah, how good are you doing to give me advice? Thank you. Bucky Larson, bank manager. I don't know, Bucky Larson definitely doesn't make as much money, but it's fine. I'm going to take advice from people who live lives that want to live. Make as much money as who?
I thought she started on OnlyFans like two weeks ago. Not just off OnlyFans. This girl does like... Have you even had your first payday yet? Yeah, I mean... Yeah. Can I please get a Cash Me Outside? I just started two weeks ago. Well, no, I've had it for like a month. It's been one month. Like three weeks to a month. Can we hear a Cash Me Outside, please? Why?
No, he just wants it because they're saying it in the comments. What are you rolling on your OnlyFans after a month? About $100,000 a month? What are you rolling? Yeah, $100,000, you know what I'm saying? No, why are you worried about what I make?
Well, because you're saying that this guy clearly doesn't make as much as you do. I didn't say that. She said, but I didn't say that. I said I don't take advice from people who don't live the life I want to live. And I said that. I don't know what type of life he lives. I don't know who Brian. Bucky. Get his name right. It's Bucky Larson. Bucky Larson. What was I trying to say? They fall under the caretaking role, right? By saying that...
Whatever you just said. Sorry, I'm like so tired. I think women should pay for first dates. I do. You agree? No, I have. i don't have an issue with that yes like drizzle drizzle yes like women should i don't have an issue with like split shit that's what i'm saying is like is that you think a traditional relationship is basic that's basically prostitution at this point if the man is the caretaker and paying for shit which is what they said earlier a traditional relationship
that's pretty much prostitution you're saying. No, the relationship itself is not transactional. It's not transactional. She's worried about a caretaker. She didn't say she, like, fucks her money. I said I don't. I didn't apply it to you. What I said to you specifically was only if it's purely transactional. It's not. It's purely transactional. I have to like you. It's not. Oh, boy. If I don't like you, if I don't emotionally like you, then... But you won't fuck until, until he...
Pays for your shit. Because I feel like if he invests into me, then it's a less likely a chance that I'm not going to get cheated on, left for freaking dead, all that, which... left for dead i mean would you like would you would you put like a car payment down for like six months and just like like give it away after all of that work if you if you sit there and you get and you have a woman and i'm
treating her nicely i'm taking care of her right maybe we do some cool stuff whatever you're not gonna just up and leave this woman one i mean you might but the chances are are you in a relationship right now um i told you i was single okay so i happened in a relationship where my bills were paid Yeah. That was my last relationship. 6,969 blah blah blah. 69 donated $69. Josie, you not attend. You are two at best. Quit with your action.
You out here laughing as a black chicken. It's lame as fuck. You are not black. We do not want you hold this asterisk, asterisk, l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l. Okay. Cool. You know, we should have a conversation about cultural appropriation, I think. Okay. Oh, man. Okay, anyways. Okay. No, yeah, like, okay. Well, no, like, I'm down. Bad joke. Okay, let me move on. That was so late. Going back to Abigail. Abigail, you're married. Look, I looked on your Instagram.
Congratulations. Happy go. Yeah, she's married. Thank you. I was married too once. 20 years old, married. I forgot about that. At 22. I was married at 22. Kids coming? No, we don't have kids. Let's see how long we'll have. Eventually, of course. Down the road. Of course. Andrew, do you think she should just start pumping them out now or just wait a couple years? I mean, generally, the earlier the better for fertility purposes. How many kids do you want? As many as the husband will allow.
I can't hear you because you're not talking to the mic. As many as the husband will allow. That's a good answer. Good answer. Anyways, but I don't see... You got an Instagram. I don't see them anywhere on Instagram. Why is that? Is he a kind of private guy? Yeah, that's upon his request. It's personal reasons for him and his situation. He asks me not to post him. I absolutely would. I tell everyone about him all the time. But he's asked me not to. I see. Okay. Moving on to Kena tricks.
Well, congrats. I'm happy for you. May you have many children and many, many years of happiness with your husband. Thank you. What's your actual name? Kay. Kay. You said you're the queen of banishment. I always post borderline stuff on social media. Oh, hold on. GR underscore Mo to underscore FN underscore Gracie donated $69 to the... Do you want to respond quickly to that? Into the mic. The men you meet only care about breast size.
I mean, I've met men before I got my body done, and so successful men. I dated a pretty successful man like a year ago. I mean, before I had my body done, so I don't really know what you're getting at, but okay. It sounds like he's projecting. Definitely. He's definitely projecting. That's what I'm saying. Just because you couldn't pull a 10 doesn't mean you should tear other.
women down who are tens gracie you're projecting dude stop projecting so much on god this is like sad like i almost like feel bad for him thanks for the 69 dollars uh I think on your Twitter and your Instagram, you say Queen of Banishment. What does that mean? That started because I got five TikToks banned in one day, so I made a new one. Oh, okay. my bio was just queen of banishment and then because you got banished yeah and then all my other bios just kind of got transferred to that okay
And you do OF. You got a boyfriend, correct? Yep. Some kids, too. So then there's more than two sex workers in here. Three. We got three. Yes. And you shoot content with your boyfriend? Yeah. Okay. Wait, is your boyfriend the father of the children? No. The children have the same dad though? They both have different dads. Oh, wait. So, okay. You have two children, but they're both from different dads.
Just want to say to the lifeless blonde, can you please blank a blank a blank for some potato chips? Shout out Cooler. I don't know. There's a couple. Like, I don't like, I'm like, wait, are you natural blonde? I am, but I have to lighten it now. Cause my hair is like, you're natural. Oh, when I was younger, it was like this color, but I'm like stuck. I don't know. Do you dye your eyebrows?
I like fill them in too. I'm actually natural blonde but my eyebrows are really dark. Am I even wearing mascara right now? I am. You can't see my blonde eyelashes. Word. I can tell you're a natural blonde from your skin tone. Wait, so just two kids from... Stop, guys. So the two kids, are the fathers in the picture? Yeah.
So it's like split custody. Yeah. I married my son's dad and then got divorced. And then my daughter was a surprise. But from two different men, correct? Yeah. Okay. You said you had someone propose after a month and a half. Yeah, after I divorced my son's dad, I started seeing this guy, and after literally a month and a half, he had got down on one knee. But you rejected his proposal then? Yeah.
I see. Okay. I told him. I told him. Oh, you can scoot the mic to the very edge of the table. I did not feel comfortable wearing that ring because that was not what I was ready for. And he just. Austrian strumpet slayer donated $69 Austrian mountain guy watching love the show hate the strumpets In Catholic Austria, we got special canyons where we throw them cock goblers into. Christ is Lord. Jeez, bro. Austrian... Y'all are women haters. ...strumpet slayer. He's indicting himself.
I thought Christ was the Lord's son. Are you like a Viennese? Are you more like a... Are you from... Thank you. The black shirt girl next to strumpet. Them both can't criticism. Otherwise, does pineapple belong on pizza? That's a good question. You know what? Show of hands, does pineapple belong? Yes, it does. I love pineapple on pizza. What? That's disgusting. It's so good. It's not that good. It's a perfect mix of sweet and savory. Also, I love the woman hater comment. What the fuck?
Do you like sex workers? You go, no. Why do you hate women so much? It's always funny to me, right? Zoe makes an anti-sex worker joke. Why do you hate women so much? What does that have to do with women?
what is it like you don't got to go that far it's not his business either like why are you all up in like you donated 69 dollars just to like shit on people for making money like what if he's incriminating himself oh my god that's evidence uh don't shine to australian it's not australian austrian's trumpet slayer thank you man don't shine
Oh, also the other thing, I remember what I was going to say during the plastic surgery bit. Bucky Larson donated $70. Blond in black and to pink shirt's trumpet. I do very well for myself. I'm single, 34, earn over $100,000 as an auto worker in Michigan. Better yourselves and don't sell sexy photos for money. I'm a student. Level up. Where'd he get that from? I don't know. I work three jobs. And I'm a student. You make over 100k?
Yeah, not a, like, in a year, yeah, definitely. You sell drugs, or what do you do? I might. Oh, shit. You never know. IRS. I hate you. Why do you hate women? Oh, the plastic surgery thing I was going to say, if I ever came into like I just had authoritarian power, like it was just a coup d'etat, I would ban. I would criminalize plastic surgeons and plastic surgery like fake titties, felony, BBL, electric chair.
Electric chair for BBL. Lipo felony. Lip filler misdemeanor. Although three strikes, then you get a felony if you get that shit more. What else? Oh, labiaplasty. Yeah, death sentence. Shoot by hanging. You get hanged. No, actually, you get the guillotine because I'm French. Okay. I'm going to give you the guillotine. And then what else? What are the other plastic surgeries chicks get? I think I hit most of them. Nose job? But what about that? That's a fine. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Yeah. Whatever.
Anyways, okay, that was it. That was it. Okay, let's see. We have some more notes here. Kay, going back to Kay. You said you had another dude who wanted to impregnate you and try to talk you into the same guy or different guy? Different guy. Okay, we'll get into that after this.
that's the point to make fun of you bc we have the money and you only sell you only seller body to make money while we work to keep the infrastructure up for you women hashtag you're welcome i just want to say that i know aquatic personally one he said
saved me from a cougar attack and two he actually made a shit ton of money in dogecoin so like for him this is like literally a penny yeah like like 69 bucks penny you know isn't it crazy is i could be going to charity and not for shitting on some bitches on a
podcast you don't know he's not i'll know instead of you getting fake titties you could put that shit to charity too i'm not gonna get fake titties she just said shitting on some bitches on a podcast why do you hate women so much why do you hate women so much Do I hate women? Yeah. I don't hate women. He just said he's shitting on bitches on a podcast. Yeah. That's like bad. That's a very disrespectful term for women. Yeah, why are you calling them bitches?
Yeah. Why are you calling them bitches? It wasn't that deep. I want you to apologize to every woman here who you just called a bitch. I'm so sorry to all of them. Please apologize. I don't know. People don't be saying that out here. I don't know. That's like L.A. slang. la slang yeah this is santa barbara this is the 805 you in the wrong neighborhood you in the wrong neighborhood to be disrespecting some ladies
And I will not stand for that in my neighborhood. 805, represent SB for life. Now we need to talk about cultural appropriation. What are you talking about? I don't know. I don't know. Where do you go with that? 805, what's up? Oh, no, he switched back. Never mind. Anyway, okay, okay. Wait, what were we talking about? The infrastructure. Oh, yeah, bro, he made so much in Doge. It's all good. But you're saying, why not put it to charity again?
You're going to spend like 7 to 10K on some fake titties. You already got the 32Ds. Why don't you just put that money in the chair? They're starving kids in Africa. 6,969 blah blah blah 69 donated $69. The only reason Josie wears panties is to keep her ankles warm. Josie out here, gargling nuts like I feel bad for my- Be honest, is that what it sounds like though? No. Shit, okay. All right. How are you gonna...
They're starving kids in Africa. Why are you going to get some fake titties? Because someone told me one time, if you can't, like, say you're going to buy a really nice car, don't buy the car unless you can buy two of them. So if I can afford some fake titties, 10K, then I'll throw another fake. You could just put more of that money towards the starving kids in Africa. Okay, then I'll put 20 kids, 20.
Nah, but why you need fake titties when you could just keep sending them out? Because that's something that I want for myself. Kids are dying because of you. There's starving kids right now that are sitting in here on the podcast. 300k a month so I can shit on you little girl. Whoa. Ooh. What? How are you going to follow that up with an uwu, bro? I'm sorry. Wait, where's the uwu button? Hold on.
Come on, dude. Yo, CoolioSomo. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Criminalized OnlyFans. This guy makes 200K to 300K a month. Damn, dude. How are you making all that money? Put me on some game. For real, me too. 300k a month, dude. Put me on some game. Since I can do so much better, right? Put me, okay. The story of the whole impregnation thing. Courthouse wedding.
it was a hot mess he was i didn't know it but going through a divorce at the time and then i found out later that him and that girl were trying to do ivf meanwhile before i knew all that he was trying to convince me to not get back on birth control when i went to go get my birth control switched and then like two months in was trying to get me to go get married at the courthouse and it was just a insane deal and he was a psychopath okay and then uh you also
No, that's it for the nuts. Lauren Rosas. Rosas. Rosas. Yes. Oh, we already, okay. Body count? Let's just go around the table. We're going to do body count. Didn't I guess like 1,050 last time? And now it's like probably 1,100. Hey, please don't. Please respect a woman over here. I love that. Please. I saw what you did. That was really disrespectful to Lauren. She said, hold on.
I wasn't ready for that. I've been doing this for 10 years. I'm not no hater. Please show respect to her and her thousand body pounds. My utmost respect. You know why? Because at least she's not sitting here. the table being freaking hypocritical like you men are so uh yo i like i like the girl when she has every diamond on wait how are we how are we being hypocritical I mean, it's just double standards. What's the double standard? I don't know. Come on. Hypothetical is hypocritical.
What? Like Wes Watson over here. I mean, it's not just you two. It's like definitely from his comments and stuff. I knew his ex. Wes Watson? Yeah. The blasted tat girl? Yeah, she lives in San Diego. They're not dating anymore? No, I don't think so. Oh, okay. I don't know the details. She was cool, though. She's cool. Okay. Wait, so how are we hypocritical? Come on. Double standards. Tell us. What's the double standards? I mean, I have to really elaborate now. I've got to think.
Come on. You've spoken barely anything tonight. I'm giving you the floor. Barely anything. I'm talking too much. I'm over talking. You got this. I believe in you. I believe in you. Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like you guys are a little misogynistic, that's all. Okay, hold on. Okay. We've got to do a split here. We've got to do a split.
I'll wait for Nick to get this. Oh, damn. Skylar Wraithy first donated $69. Question for the 304s. Do you think a sex work keeps pedos and artists off the streets? Also, lady in the back, I would bet one million dollars that your BD is black. He's not. Okay. White guy? He's Native American, actually. Oh, okay. Like real life, Native. From a reservation. Like Cherokee? No, he's a Mibler. Is he Pima?
He's Ojibwe from the Lakudore tribe. Nice. Okay, so hold on. Going back to this, though, you said that we're kind of misogynist. First, just so I make sure we're talking about the same thing. Can I have you define misogyny? I need to Google. Hold on. The words came out of your mouth. I mean, I don't know. You use the word. I mean, it's like you know what it means, but you don't know how to explain it. It's one of those things. But it's like...
I don't want to say suppression. Do you want to take a crack at it? Go ahead, yeah. Take a crack at defining it. To define it? Well, I think it's... what's the right word it's not like i don't want to say put down or like oppress i i guess yeah i mean i guess the oppression of women technically i don't want to say oppress you know the word i'm trying to say there's like a word but like i can't think of it
Well, so the question again is, how do you define misogyny? Wait, hold on. I'm tired. I zoned this out. What did you say? What did you just say? I said technically the... I don't know what the actual definition is, but I think it's something around the, I don't want to say oppression of women, but it's like putting women down because they're women.
Yeah. Yeah. Here. How's this for definition? I'll just give you a kind of a Google one here. Hatred or contempt for or prejudice against women. Prejudice. That's the word. So can you give me like. What is the definition for the word prejudice? Because I just want to make sure when I say this, it's right. Hunter Puppet donated $69. Thank you. Brian, did you know a wise person once said... Yeah. It's true. Word for word.
Having a preconceived opinion or feeling, especially an unreasonable or unfavorable one towards a group. Okay. Or a person. I mean, I feel like, yeah, I guess you guys are a little prejudiced towards, like, you know... What's the word? I guess women women yeah no but towards plastic surgery towards um a woman wanting a provider i don't think you can be prejudiced towards plastic surgery that would be preference right yeah how would it be how would it be misogynistic
to be against plastic surgery. Isn't that more pro-women than anti-women? Are you against men getting plastic surgery? Yes. But from a dating perspective, I'm interested in women. And so I can speak to my romantic and sexual interest in women and what I find personally aesthetically pleasing. Here's a good example. You wouldn't say that if a person said, I'm not attracted towards...
Austrian's trumpet slayer donated $69. Hold the thought for a sec here. I am the misogyny. Fuck sex work. Fuck women and fuck plastic titties. you're welcome brian no vienna is shy i'm from upper austria wall so you got a dumpy every why does everybody keep saying i got a dumpy i don't know yo austrian uh dunk a shine Is that how you say thank you? Did you get a BBO? Are you lying? No, I'm just fine. Are you lying, Brian? Your name Ryan would lie. So you're probably lying. Okay.
Andrew, I'm going to pause the TTS just briefly here to allow you to have this. Yeah, so you would, I mean, if somebody said that they didn't want to, I don't know, date a certain race because they weren't attracted to it, you wouldn't say that that was being prejudiced.
Right. You would just say that that's a preference. I mean, that is kind of being prejudiced, isn't it? No. Really? So you think that you should date people you're not attracted to? So you won't date somebody because of a certain race. So you're not attracted to how they... Yeah, if you're... I don't... Yeah, if you're not attracted to the people of that rate, why would that be prejudiced? That sounds a little something.
Yeah, because, like, I don't know. I'm sorry. I couldn't hear you. So you have to understand, if you're talking while I can't actually hear what you're saying, it's just because the way the communication works, because I'm mobile, I'm not in the room with you. My question is, why would it be prejudice to, let's say you weren't attracted to Asian men. You just weren't for whatever reason. They just didn't do it for you. Is that prejudice?
i think so i don't know i mean okay i would think that's a generalization because like maybe there's one like that you know you're like whoa there's not one on planet earth who does it for you that you've ever seen so you when somebody says hey Do you date Asians and you say, no, because I'm not attracted to them because you've never seen one ever that you're attracted to. Is that prejudice?
I would just think it was a generalization. I would think it's because they really haven't seen all of them. So it's a generalization. But I think that, you know, I would say it's a generalization. I wouldn't say it's prejudice. Yeah, it doesn't seem like it's prejudice. Do you think, I mean, you think that that's prejudicial? That you're being prejudiced towards a group because you won't date them? I don't know. I don't know about that. Raise the eye.
I don't know. If Brian says he's not ever going to date a trans woman, is he being prejudiced? Well, no. If he dates women, so no. I mean, like... You know, biologically. I feel like on a racial standpoint, it kind of is, but I don't know. I think that that. Why? Why would it be? If you're not attracted to, you know, X race.
I don't understand how that would be prejudiced. That would just be your preference. You're not saying that there's anything wrong with them. You're just saying that for you, they don't do it for you, right? I don't know. I don't know. You don't know? Okay, hold on. Let's not allow ourselves to get off track here. You said that I was prejudiced towards plastic surgery, and that is evidence of my misogyny.
You guys are definitely misogynist. Okay, so once again, define misogyny. I mean, it's just like what that guy said. Hold on, hold on. Define misogyny. I told you I can't. You're using, okay, you're making an accusation. You can't even define the word that you're using. You feel we're misogynistic. You guys are. I mean, you are. I just can't tell you the definition because I'm the type of person that I like to, if I'm going to speak on stuff, I like to at least...
know what I'm kind of like, whatever. I do feel like you guys can't even define. So I want it. Well, I want to just on the term prejudice. I'm almost done. I just wanted to ask you. Is it okay or do you think it's being prejudiced if a black woman says she only dates black men? Is she being prejudiced towards white men? I don't know. You don't know? Not really politically.
I don't know. I'm trying to think. Yeah, I'm just trying to... I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I mean, there's nothing wrong with it. I don't know if prejudice would be the word. I think, yeah, I would say general generalization.
Yeah, that's interesting. But see, I feel like that's where the confusion is. I wouldn't know how to coin that, actually, yeah. Do you want to answer the question? Yeah, I just don't really know. I don't know how to answer that question. Okay, she doesn't know. All right. So going back to this. So you used the fact that I'm against plastic surgery as evidence of my misogyny. I feel like I'm on trial right now.
Is he a misogynist? Yes or no, guys? Y'all let me know. How about you just answer the question? I don't know. Are you misogynist? I don't know. I've asked you a different question. I definitely feel like... i've asked you a different question the question is how is i feel like if a woman a woman doesn't have the same opinion as you
and whatnot, I feel like you have a problem with that. So I don't know what you want to define that as. I have a problem with everybody who has a different opinion than me.
Exactly, that's cool. And you have an opinion I have on mine. Yeah, I know, but is that misogynistic if I have a problem with everybody who has a different opinion than me? I mean, when it's... when it comes down to women and how women feel about other women and you have an issue on it i mean sure you can speak your opinion this is america no no but if i have a problem with everybody's opinion which is different than my own opinion
then that wouldn't be misogynistic because I'm not singling women out. I'm saying everybody who disagrees with me is wrong, right? He does. I mean, wrong by... what in your head maybe but maybe not in theirs yeah so i mean it's not a preconceived notion that you're wrong because you have breasts it's a preconceived notion that you're wrong
Because I don't fucking agree with what you say, right? That would be the preconceived notion. I mean, I'm confused. I think to me, like a misogynist is somebody that like, like kind of just like. like stomps on like people's rights like doesn't like it's one thing to desire a woman and feminine women or femininity to stay feminine um in a sense where you know keeping them, how do I, how do I, ooh, I think it's just, just us like you,
You can't work, but I'm like dude, I like need to and then they're like, oh, well you need to find a husband I'm like dude, what if I can't get married? Like what about that? Like what like can you can I live my little life over here my little hole in my little corner? Like can I do that? Like if someone's like no like that that's who I with it and then they're like, but I want to fuck you too. That's that's
I want to think misogyny. I'm not going to. She's walking away now. I'm going to want to have a little bit of further back and forth on the misogyny accusation. But since she's now gone, we were going around. Wait, I have to wait also on the body count thing. Who's wait? Oh, Alison Ray. OK, that's you already told us about the whole like car thing. We already talked about that.
So you met a guy. So basically the short version of it is you met a guy on Tinder. You abandoned him 11 hours outside of Texas. It was horrible. Yeah. Okay. We talked about that. You said you'd love to talk about women showing their bodies online, seeking validation and attention from men. What did you want to talk on? Well, just exactly that. I just feel like nobody, it seems like no one wants to.
You know, hear it here for my reasons. Oh, sorry. No one wants to take any criticism. I've just seen a lot of run-around mental gymnastic answers, and I'm just not sure it would go anywhere. Okay. And did you have a history of
Prior to, I guess, becoming a Christian, did you do any sort of online adult content? Not adult content. So I was like a hot girl on Instagram and I modeled for Harley Davidson for a few years. And after coming... to Jesus I just thought this just doesn't serve me this is not God's nature and I just decided that you know if God hates it so do I and so I took down all my social media
Okay. And modesty is the way to go. And when you converted, were you still a model at the time of your conversion? Well, it's kind of hard to explain. It's just hard to explain. It kind of happened over a few months, but as I was reading the Bible and getting through it all, because I had a dream from God, that's like what started it. After going through the Bible, I started feeling conviction over.
Yeah. Over a few months. Were you a model? Yes. When you converted? I mean, I guess you could say so. Yeah. Were you still working for Harley Davidson as a model? Yes. Okay. So they were paying you to model for them? Yeah, it just wasn't an overnight thing. It took like a few months to get to the conclusion of, okay, I do believe in Jesus. And you were baptized as part of your conversion? Well, I have been baptized, yes.
Okay, when you got baptized, was that after your conversion or before your conversion? Sorry, what did you say? Was your baptism pre-conversion? No, it was after. Okay, so at the time of your baptism, were you working as a model for Harley Davidson? Absolutely not. Got it. Okay, so... So what's happening is you're slowly converting to Christianity, your model for Harley Davidson, but at the time you actually did convert, you were no longer working as a model, right? Right.
Okay, and did you quit that job or were you removed from that job or what happened? No, I quit that job with nothing else backup and I did it because I just put faith in God and he did provide me another job. Which is the job I have to this day. Got to move on. And you wanted to also talk about sex outside of marriage, correct? Yeah. What did you... I mean...
It would be for the other girls and their opinions. I think mine's obvious. Well, what is your just, why don't you state your position and the girls? can respond oh okay well um i guess i just wanted to know uh for anyone who only those who claim to be a christian anyone who does not claim to be a christian like i don't think she does what about oh yeah yeah yeah like you're not a christian right
No. Okay, so it's not for you. Okay, so anyone who claims to be a Christian, what is their viewpoint on sex outside of marriage? And if you do it, why do you think that that's okay in the eyes of God? Like, what is the justification? I mean, I guess I grew up Christian, but honestly, I my family was never like super, super, super, super, super Christian. Like they weren't like when I had my grandma, she was Catholic, so they were super, super.
christian as well but honestly like sex outside of marriage like i don't know like everyone like does their own thing i don't think there's anything wrong with it like honestly because it's like if anything like you could you could wait until marriage and then have sex during marriage but then you could still get like
like something bad could still happen and then you guys would get divorced and it would just be like that but I respect it like I have friends who are waiting until marriage and stuff like that and like sometimes like I wish I did but then like to each their own like everyone is different like I don't want to bash anyone for Right, right. Anything like that. So my understanding is you're waiting until marriage, correct? As of now, yes, I am. But you are not a virgin, though. No. Okay.
Well, I don't think there's anything wrong with that from the Christian worldview, but from more like a secular dating perspective. Yeah, I have a question. Do you think if a man didn't want to wait until marriage... Wait, please, into the mic. Because he didn't want to wait for something that another man didn't have to wait for, do you think that's a valid feeling for him? Totally, yeah.
I think if it's who God wants me to be with, he wouldn't feel that way, and he's probably in the same boat I am. Have you faltered since becoming a Christian? Have you faltered on this waiting till marriage thing? Not with actually doing it, but with flirting and stuff like that and kind of seeking attention from guys a little bit. I've fallen a few times a couple years ago. How long have you been celibate for? About four years.
Okay, that's commendable. I guess the thing that always, I mean, again, it makes sense if you've, I guess, become a Christian. On one hand, women should certainly, like, if they can change up. move in a better way it's commendable but i would i would raise massive eyebrows if like a girl had previously slept with 5, 10, 15, 20 guys relatively quickly. This doesn't even necessarily have to do to waiting until marriage. These girls, like in your case, right? These girls who have had...
one night stands. They've never actually had the standard at any previous point in their life, but then they're going to now use sex as leverage to get something from the man. This could be commitment. It could be providing. It could be, you know, you said you want a guy to pay your rent. pay your car bill etc etc i kind of while you women are free to do this
My counter advice to men is I don't think that's an acceptable dynamic you ought to accept. And so what I mean by that is you shouldn't even you should just move on to a different girl. That's not a girl that I think is really worth dating, to be honest. Now, if you're a Christian, that's different. But if you're just like some secular chick or even like sort of, you know, don't really take the faith that seriously. I don't know. To me, it's kind of.
Ridiculous. Look, if you can find a guy that's willing to wait, that's totally cool. But I think it's kind of a raw deal for like, oh, the past 10, you fucked a dude a week ago, you let him hit it. First night, and now, oh, babe, I want to wait for three months. I don't know, it doesn't... Like for Christianity? No, outside of Christianity. No, like outside of Christianity. Using sex as leverage. Yeah.
It's just because it's one thing if it'll be the standard for the rest of your life. Oh, all the time. A girl will be fucking a guy, but... she won't have commitment with him she'll be a guy she never waited for she him the first night buddy friends with benefits she'll be dating a guy who she sees long-term potential in while him she'll make him wait
So while she's getting dicked down by a dude who's never going to give her commitment, she'll be simultaneously dating a guy and making him wait and jump through hoops. Oh, you got to do the chivalrous thing. And like, so that's where it gets really ridiculous to me. I feel like if you like him, you want to be in bed with him immediately. Anyways, a couple chats are going to come through. Thank you, bro. Thank you, David. Ah, yeah.
hmm well put yeah the cosmetic industry trillion dollar uh trillion dollar industry something with those like ferraris and I don't believe in that sort of thing. Josh donated $69. Pink shirt, ghetto blonde with the smelly coochie death doesn't date Asians.
she's just attracted to the brothers for their soul and not bc the 304 is a pp enthusiast now stop beating down women oops sorry burped thank you josh k i appreciate it bro um austrian's trumpet slayer donated 69 dollars sex outside marriage is degenerated and sinful repent and your time in purgatory may not be eternal Also using logic and speaking the truth is not misogyny. Stop using buzzwords, trailer park queen.
Tonka Shine, Austrian strumpet slayer. Thank you, bro. We need some holy water. Go back to church. Ulis sees the pagan donated $69. Many transgender people will exclusively only date biological people. Does that make them transphobic by their own criteria? Of course it doesn't white's nonsense. No one is owned sex. Yeah. Well put. Well put. So I guess to bring it back to this. So you you were making or you made the statement that we're misogynistic. I asked you to define misogyny.
I'd still like to give you an opportunity to define it just to make sure we are talking about the same thing. Or did the definition that Andrew, is that sufficient? Yeah, I think what Andrew gave was sufficient. That's hatred or contempt for prejudice against women. Yeah, maybe. I don't know. I just think you guys, like I said earlier, it's just my same. Maybe you're not misogynistic. I don't know. But what?
But, you know, you guys have your opinions, and I have my own. Well, okay, don't weasel out of a statement that you made. I'm not weaseling out of it. I'm correcting myself. You just said you don't want to talk about it. Thank you. I don't want to anymore. I'm good. Well, okay, so... I feel like it's only fair since you've thrown out an accusation. Accusations of misogyny are very serious. So you ought to at least defend it instead of just... Bucky Larson donated $72.
Question for everyone including Brian and Andrew if a woman takes longer than 30 minutes to put makeup on her face with no distractions Does she have a cake face? I don't know i'm not what's what's a what's a cake face like just caked on way too much makeup um probably but i mean i suppose she could eyebrows take that time and not i don't know
Probably, but not necessarily. No, it depends on how arcy she is with it. Yeah. So, you know, I'm not going to let you weasel out of this just as easily as you just threw out this... so why don't we actually have a conversation about it instead of kind of trying to weasel out, why don't you just make your case, make your argument? I don't have a case to make.
Okay, here's the words that came out of your mouth. You guys are misogynists. Okay, and I asked, define misogyny. You kind of didn't really do that. so fine we've defined misogyny how are we how are me and andrew misogynist then
Maybe it's because, like, I don't know, every conversation that we've kind of had tonight, which isn't necessarily misogyny, has been kind of catered toward men. So you're like, you woman this, you woman that. Give me an example. She got, oh, you woman get dicked down or whatever. Like, that was what...
You just said that. You just said that. You just said that. Give me the context. You said women, some about they'll make this guy wait while they're getting digged down by this guy. It's just like all your conversations. Hold on. All your conversations. are about women and what women are doing wrong and nothing about men and what y'all are doing wrong. But that's okay. Hang on. He was responding to a question. So she asked a question. She said, wait, they do that?
In this particular case, the context was about women who have had many sex partners previously and then suddenly become chased with a man who they're interested in. And a woman asked Brian, they do that? And Brian, who has a lot of experience talking to these women, said, oh, yeah, they do it all the time. A, B, C, and D. And here's the example of that.
So he's still giving only the specific criteria to those kinds of women. That's not a broad generalization for all women. It's only the women specifically who are engaged in that activity. Well, Andrew, I don't even think it's that. She actually takes objection to the specific phrase of getting dicked down. Well, it's just like, I mean, like, would you go... You've never said that before?
Not if I was like, you were like dead ass. What? You just called, well, you just said, why are you talking shit to bitches? That's what you said. No, that's what I'm saying. Like, you guys are like nagging on me for saying that, but then you're like, oh, like she got dicked down. Like, would you say that to your mom?
Why? Nobody said anything about this conversation. You're going in circles. I ask the question. Why women in today's society and our thoughts and stuff like that, why it's wrong. Bro, here's the further context for the conversation. She wanted to talk about waiting until marriage. It was perfectly contextual.
I feel like there's just other ways to say it because I said bitches and then y'all were like, oh, that's misled. To be honest, we didn't actually care that you said that. No, I know. That's what I'm saying. We were just basically pointing out if you're going to tone police.
will tone police back, right? Like, I didn't actually give a shit that you said, bitches, I thought it was funny. I was just pointing out... I'm just using that as an... I'm not tripping about it. No one's offended. I'm just using it as an example. So, is any girl here actually offended? Was offended when I used... the term getting dicked down. Not really, but that's not my point. Were you offended? Were you offended? No, I wasn't offended, but...
I was offended, Brian. Even if any of us were offended, the definition of misogyny isn't offending a lot of women. The definition of misogyny is having a prejudice against women. He doesn't like... plastic surgery he doesn't like these specific things but he doesn't have a prejudice against that's why i'm just saying that all of the conversation but you know you it's definitely something going on with like
dancing around like the line no i i think what am i dancing around what is going on that's what she's trying to explain okay go ahead explain i think that um maybe you got a problem with um which is okay i mean i got a problem with it too and that's why problem with what can i even speak yeah go ahead okay thank you why are you guys like mad like i can't even talk you would just interrupt me Anyway, get me off my train of thought. Yes, you don't, I can't even speak.
See, you can't actually make the argument. You just want to accuse me of interrupting you. No, I do. I feel like I don't want to accuse you of interrupting me. I just feel like you're being rude. Just answer the question. No, I can take my time to answer this question if I feel like it. Thank you. Anyway, I think that you just have a problem with maybe...
Women's in today's society or like social media or just all that that type of stuff I think you have a problem with that and I feel like women Especially women who are in my lane of a type of thought pattern, I feel like are more like this because we gave a lot to men and didn't...
receive the best um experience now that doesn't mean every man is like that i'm not categorizing all men i'm not saying all men need to pay your rent or something like that but what i am saying is there i don't feel like there's anything wrong with my um with how I want to go about it. But I feel like you have an issue with it. And that's all I was saying earlier was it's y'all opinions. It's y'all opinions in my opinion.
Okay. Yeah. And that's what I said. So you said that my views on social media, again, you called us misogynists. And I just took it back. If you didn't hear me, I took it back three fucking times. Okay. Maybe you're not misogynist, but you have an opinion. And that's the only thing I'm like really debating with you is that. So I'm agreeing with you to disagree with you. That doesn't even make sense. Not social media. I think she's just talking about women. It's not like we were offended.
Oh, I was going to say, I think, yeah, like I think misogyny is more like stopping someone's or not wanting someone to be able to sustain themselves and then be a woman and then want to have sex with them anyways. That's what I think misogyny is. But I don't think, yeah, I don't. So. I'm just a little confused. Oh my goodness. Then what are the things I've said that you have an issue with? I mean, I don't care. If it's not misogyny. I don't know. I just feel like it's been kind of like...
i don't want to say catered toward men but you're like oh in this situation like what percent of men blah blah like in this situation men okay so you women would rather be in the forest yeah with a bear like you guys are so wrong for that because like but like i don't know it's just like people have different opinions and that's very much I said like bitches like that was why men are right and women are wrong that's what I feel like I feel like you're very against women being like
Let me get my body done. Let me let me be this type of person. So I'll engage you on one thing at a time one thing at a time Okay, so you said I'm against well, I have to interrupt you because you list out 30 different criticisms and i can it just i don't know andrew if you call that gish galloping or whatever i can only address one point at a time so why don't we address this whole me being against plastic surgery
How is that misogynistic? I didn't say it was. When I asked you earlier. I'm not going to keep repeating myself. Thank you. Okay, so you object to me. Then you just blanketly, in a general sense, just object to me being against plastic surgery. Which is fine because you're a proponent of plastic surgery.
I'm against plastic surgery. Yeah, I mean, it's not just plastic surgery, but... It's whatever I said. It's really just anything in a feminist type of viewpoint, you don't agree with. That's what I feel like. How is it feminism, though? What? Like the whole body empowerment or, you know, my body, my choice. I mean, he even said it earlier. It's taking away women. Two different types of feminism, sure. Like that it's, you know, from makeup. And he has a good point with that. I'm definitely.
I agree with it. But at the same time, you know, I don't know. I feel like we have the choice to do what we want. We live in a free country. So I don't think you should be able to, you know, dislike. Somebody, I don't know the word. I'm trying to think of the word, but it's just like... That chick, the gal with the red hair who's sitting... you know one one one gal over yeah yeah she's she's actually probably far more misogynistic than brian is wait what you think i'm
Well, no, I think you would be considered more misogynistic than Brian. I agree. I think women to the right of me are definitely a little bit more misogynistic than you guys are. I would agree with that. Wait, what? Yeah, I'm not really... I think so I think feminism is a lie to trick women
into hating themselves so then what is misogyny so then what is misogyny let's talk about men let's stop talking about women how about we talk about men for once let's talk because that's what we don't do we don't talk about men we've just been talking about women okay so then men dying in war then what i just realize like earlier it's like that's my favorite topic let's talk about it go ahead the thing that you just got done saying that you you
didn't want to talk about it all because all the show has been been talking about men now you're like why don't we talk about the men okay let's do that then okay start it off I'm sorry, but it's absurd to me that you're like, in the one side of your mouth you go, I can't believe that all these women's issues you keep on making it into talking about men.
And then when we get down to an issue you want to talk about, you say, I want to talk about men. I mean, so what she was saying, she was saying something about feminism, and so I said talk about misogyny. If feminism is a, would you say it was a trick? Yeah, I do think that women are deceived with this whole feminine movement. So then how do you feel about misogyny then?
How do I feel about it? How do you feel about it? You don't have an opinion? No, of course I have an opinion. Misogyny is bad. It's a prejudice against women. I hate both. For no other reason than just... them being women. Of course it's bad. What's wrong with feminism? It's just a lie. One quick thing. You do realize that you can be anti-feminist and not be a misogynist?
Being anti-feminist is not being anti-women. Go ahead with your point. Thank you. All this political stuff. I forgot where I was at. I just get... Well, I think feminism... is a trap and no i'm not misogynistic i absolutely want the best for women i have my opinions on what is best for women and feminism completely goes against that obviously i believe in the bible and i believe in those gender roles and i believe that women are nurturing
and would be better off, you know, submitting to their husband and having children. So then is it wrong for me to not want to submit to a man unless he's providing for me? Oh, no. And then let's go into like a... They're called that prostitution. I do... Let me get this straight. I do think men should provide for women and women should submit to their husbands and nurture the children. That's what I believe in. And that's how I feel as well.
I feel like you want me to raise your family, you want me to have your kids, you want me to do all this, be intimate with you, then I want you to provide for me. And I don't feel like there's anything wrong with that. And I feel like it's wrong to sit here and call me a prostitute for that. I have a question for you.
You called us. Taking care of me, I have bills. So, yeah. And there's a lot more. There's an emotional level of taking care of me. There's a physical level of taking care of me. And there's a financial and spiritual level. So, it's all of that. I'm going to untie a couple. concepts for you. Nobody was calling you a prostitute. Not for this. Hang on. Not for the idea that you want to be taken care of by a man.
No, you didn't. Before I even knew I had OnlyFans, he called me a sex worker. Yes, yes, that's different, though. That's why I'm going to untangle this for you. I did not call you a sex worker. That's why I'm going to untangle this for you. You're taking too... Yeah, I know. Okay, when you're done, let me know, and then I'll untangle the concepts for you. Go ahead. What? Okay, great, you're done. So to untangle the concepts for you...
Concept one, yes, if you're an OnlyFans worker, you're considered a prostitute. Yes. I would agree that that is what was said. But when it came to the relationship... What was asserted to you was if it's only transactional, if the relationship is purely transactional, then it would be prostitution. And I said multiple times it wasn't transactional. Yeah, I know. which is why we weren't calling you a prostitute for that we're just saying if it were purely transactional
That would be prostitution. Really, because he said I was, they called me, he said earlier I had sugar daddies and da-da-da, which I said, no, I don't have sugar daddies. I'm looking for somebody to provide for me. The provider role. I wasn't here for that part of the conversation. Exactly, so when he called me a sex worker earlier, before he even knew I had an OnlyFans. or anything like that, then by what you guys are saying, I'm not. I wasn't here for that.
conversation then because i didn't hear him mention anything about sugar daddies to you while i was here anyway well i think it's funny that when we put it in a certain sense of like in almost like a religious standpoint all of a sudden it's okay but when I was saying it earlier in a different standpoint because I'm not the most religious person. Now all of a sudden I'm a sex worker and I have sugar daddies and all this crazy stuff. I didn't say anything about you having sugar daddies.
I said your friend did. No, what I'm saying is that if you have a relationship with a... with a man that which is purely transactional you're only getting resources in exchange for sex i don't know what to call that except prostitution yeah and i said multiple times that it wasn't purely transactional Which is why I didn't call you a prostitute for that.
I actually didn't call you a prostitute. I asked you. I didn't call you a sex worker. I asked you when we were talking about your whole relationship thing and you wanting to wait until a guy starts providing, et cetera, et cetera. I asked. I asked you something along the lines of, look, we've talked a lot. If I recall correctly, could be wrong. I asked you, isn't that prostitution or how is that not prostitution?
Yeah, and I said, I'm not out working on a corner. If I recall correctly, I don't think I called you a prostitute. I asked, how is that not prostitution? It's not prostitution. It's a standard. But how? How is it? If you feel like a man should provide, and I want to submit to my man, but I want to be taken care of, and I want him to provide for me, how is that prostitution?
hold on you're changing things up a little bit because you know the original framing was hold on do you this the words understand i didn't say the word submit earlier but that doesn't mean that's not what i want to do this is my man just let me finish okay
So... And I did make it clear earlier that... You said something along the lines of... It'd be very hard to get rid of somebody who's doing everything to me. Just listen. Just listen. You said something along the lines of, I will not have sex with a man until he... pays my bills. Something along those lines. I don't know if that's verbatim. The way that came out, I will not have sex with a man until he pays my bills. Ladies, is that... Is that about what she said?
No, that's what you said to me. I said, I want to be taken care of. That's pretty much the caretaker role. That's something to be taken care of. Then you made it going back to your... You know, whatever it is that you're doing on this podcast, like trying to mm-mm to women who feel some type of way or who believe in what I believe in type of vibe. What do you believe in? Yeah, what do you believe in? Oh, my God. I already said it 20 times.
I mean, what are we talking about? Relationship? Religion? I already talked about both of that. So go back. Go back 20, 30 minutes. Two hours. Three hours. If you want to know. I'm just saying, how is her wanting her bills to be paid? Wait, I kind of want to change up this.
seating arrangement really quick wait uh so okay i just just i don't know because i'm gonna leave here we're almost done i want you and you can you guys take those seats and then i'm gonna put you in that seat okay can i have you guys just shift over and then but take the seats we're gonna let a couple chats get through uh so you sit in that
like just sit in the seats so you sit in that seat you sit in that seat and i'm gonna move you into that yeah you here you there and then you over there okay just because uh yeah all right i'm gonna let a couple chats go through Okay. Thank you, Aquatic. Thank you, bro. Good to see you, bro. He saved me from a coyote attack once. Just saying, guys.
Coolisomo donated $69. Why is it the blonde lady's doing all the screaming? I want to hear the Latina lady and she's the only one I need in my life. And I think I'm watching Angels vs Demons. CoolioSomo, good to see you in the chat, man. New name. They got different opinions. They got the different opinions. Tilly for really $1,337 donated $69.35. Imagine the ignorance for a woman to choose a bear.
Its natural instinct is to eat you. Whereas a man's natural instinct is to protect the woman. Psychology 101. Your perception is the problem. LOL. That's nice. Nickelodeon donated $69. Brian, how dare you invite these women on and not pander to them and at dollar kiss them until you get pink eye. Don't you know you're supposed to coddle them and make them feel special?
Well put, dude. That's pretty much a perfect assessment of... I mean, why be rude to any person? Not female, male, anybody, so... You can spread positivity. Y'all just spread negative. I'm making y'all money tonight. Let others speak for once. You try to assert your dominance by talking over every once. They keep talking to me. I don't even want to talk. You're a fan favorite. They love you. Your attitude sucks.
It's like those kids on the playground, like if they kind of bullied the girl if they liked it. Not bully, pick on. one is art one is unnecessary mutilation with health consequences I don't think he got my point on that. My point was if you're going to donate to charity, he said, oh, why would you spend $10,000 on a BBO and you could donate to charity? Then why would you buy a $60,000 car if you could donate that to charity? That was my comparison. I wasn't comparing body mutilation to cars.
Exactly. Okay. All right, let's do the Bumble segment. We'll line the mood a little bit. Tonight, this show's been very adversarial. Andrew, before we do the Bumble segment, did you want to touch on anything? Oh, wait, we didn't do body count. Lauren. I said I had a thousand. Go ahead, Lauren. I have a thousand one hundred. That's, I think, more than last time. Because I.
Yeah. Wait, Andrew, why are you making that face, Andrew? Andrew, I've been doing this for 10 years. Okay. Should we get a split on? His eyes. Say it again, Lauren. I have 1,100. I don't think he heard you. Say it one more time. 1,101. Oh, okay. How many of those are from the whatever podcast? The 101. Here's what's crazy. At the beginning of the show, she said that like over 100 people from the podcast.
yeah they got her services yeah they see they they're like i i saw whatever and i was like cool okay all right anyways yeah uh so going around the table uh what's your body count I cannot tell you. Do you want to give us a range? Under 20, I know that. Oh, okay. All right. Into the mic. two wait wasn't it one last time um the the my boyfriend who i had for one year and a half and then i spoke on the last podcast how i was sort of in a situationship and like
I don't know. I just was treated so terribly. I had sex with him, and I thought that would make him stay, but no. Wait, and so, wait, last... No, last time I did say two. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah. I feel weird sharing that online, but it's single digits. Okay. One. Your husband. My husband. Alright. I feel the same way. I feel weird sharing it online. Range. How about a range? Zero. Be a good sport. She's the immaculate conception over here. Her child. Yep. That's a Jesus baby.
I'm just kidding. How about the range? Tell us the range. I don't know. Single digits. Okay. Four. Austrian's Trumpet Slayer donated $69. Feelings are not opinions, experiences are not facts. These women's inability to prescind or using basic logic makes me more angry than Brian calling me Australian. Good day, mate. Shrimp on the barbie. Listen, why don't you go get some Vegemite and put it on some...
Bratwurst. What? I don't even know. So bad. Okay, we're going to do the bubble thing. Wait, what? 1,100? Yeah, in one. Wait, and why did you say cap when I said cap? Up here, Aquatic donated $69. Amen misogynistic for not catering to your needs, BC. You bring nothing to the table besides nonsense. God damn. Why did I say cat?
Yeah, when I said four. Multiply it by three, and that's the real number. Did you hear that? Hold on, I'll play it one more time. Multiply it by three, and that's the real number. It's a rule. It's a law. It's a law of physics. So nine? Three times three. Let me do math on that. Hold on Nine yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's nine now, huh? So it's nine now
I mean, that's the law. Oh, okay. I guess then, yeah. And for guys, you divide by three. Oh, that's sad. So if a guy's nine, it's actually three. I'm sorry, is four times three nine? Four times three is 12. Oh, shit. Dude, I'm so bad at math. Oh, my God. It's 12 now? Dude. Go. You thought four times three was nine? I haven't slept in like 30 hours. I bring math to the table. I have not slept in 30 something hours. I'm tired. I'm really bad at math. I missed it too.
that's why hey i brought math to the table no i knew i got it well no i knew i got it wrong i was just trying to like play it off because like i don't have the brain cells to correct myself right now I just must have thought it was three or something. Okay. No, I guess it's 12 now. All right, we're going to do the Bumble segment. You each get 20 swipes. We're going to show you some eligible bachelors. Single, single, single.
Relationship. Can I question? Can I, I don't like to say no without a reason. Can I just give a no and then the reason why? Because I don't want people to feel like I'm rejecting them. That's fine. Just a teeny one. If you do, just like, don't like his hair. Like, brief, totally fine. Brief, okay. That's good. Gotcha. Because I just don't want to seem like I'm just, like, for their looks. Yeah, give a reason. You can give a reason. Just, you know, a little reason. Yeah. A brief reason.
All right, whenever you're ready. So age range of men you would date? Probably 30 to 40. Age range of men? I guess, yeah. That you would date, you know? Maybe like 28, 29. Not really though. Ew. Did you say ooh? I'm sorry, man. He looks like a nice guy. No, he doesn't. He could be really cool, actually. He's cooking. I need to meet him. I can't. I don't do online dating very specifically. Okay. It's hard to know. No. No. No. No. No. No.
He kind of looks cute. Sure. I'm going to do him. I'm posing with a pumpkin. Did you X him? I said yes to him. Don't. We're just passing on everybody. No to him. No. I don't think so. No, no. No. That guy was kind of a child. Aw, the dog's cute. He is the dog. Okay, you can't say yes to the dog. No, sorry, Chris. No. No. No. No. No. No.
No. Who is it? Who is it? If it's the one with the blue shirt, I might let him take me on a date. He seemed cool. He seemed nice. That's 20. Age range of guys you would date? I'd say anywhere from 19 to 23. Maybe like 20 to 23, I guess. I don't know how this works. She said 19 to 23, right? Okay. Uh, no. Really? Wow. No. No. No. No. Oh my. No. She was thinking about it. No, I was like scared. Oh, okay. No. He looks nice, but no, I'm sorry. What?
Sorry, sorry, sorry. No. No. No. The girls or the guy? Everyone. You know what? No. no no no no no I think I went to high school with him. That's crazy. That's crazy. No. No. He's a soft boy. No. What is going on? No. Are we going until I say yes to one? How many is that, Nick? Wait, did she say yes to it? Did you say yes to anybody? Okay, all right. No. That's 10%. Okay. Yeah, you get if you don't say yes to anybody you get an extra 10 go ahead No No No
No. Oh my god. That's scary. Oh, fuck. The bug's back. No. I mean, fuck that shit up. No. I don't like flying animals like that. Oh, insects. Insects, I mean. Oh. No, just ignore it No. We keep going. I'm really picky. Oh my god, we go all night. No. No. No. No. No. Choose somebody. No. Sorry. No. No. No. Y'all this bug is like, no. No. No. Oh my god, I can't. I like his tattoos, but no. No. No. Which one? Either. The hot one. No. No. Oh, he was cute. He was. No. No. No.
Yeah, that's a lot. We're gonna keep going. Another 10. No way. Another 10. No way. Go ahead. Go ahead. No. Wow. No. I was just like impressed. You look cool though. No. I thought it was a high school with him, too. No. No. Not the high waters. No. You know, my mom told me she got bullied for that in high school, and that was a trend. What? They were like, where's the fly? Like, what? Just keep going. No. No. No. No. The one on the left. Yeah, I was just gonna say.
Okay, so how many was that, 50? I think we're like 50, 55. It was probably more than 50, but we'll just say, so one out of 50, so that's, she finds 2% of men attractive. Oh, it's not that I didn't find him attractive. I just, like, it's, I don't know, he gave, like, a cool vibe. Like, the other guy gave a cool vibe, but he just, like, I don't know. You mean, what do you mean, which guy? The guy with the cool tattoos. I was like, he's cool, but I don't know.
I just have to get a certain vibe. Pretty picky, aren't you? Very. I actually want to go into this quickly. What are you looking for in a partner? Honestly, someone that like... hold on let's let's make it easy so let's start looks and then we'll do like personality other things well looks for me like looks obviously play a part um clearly person personality is a big part for me though like take my word for it
um yeah no but looks wise like i don't know like if i have a really good smile like that gets me and like okay tattoos are cool i guess that's like my type and then personality wise like uh do you have any like racial preference not really you'll date white black asian i mean like my three ex-boyfriends like one was israeli one was white and one was black so okay diverse i guess it doesn't really matter to me uh okay so
Height? Height? I've liked, honestly, like, I like taller guys, but, like, honestly, like, height, like, it's not that deep. How tall are you? 5'4". So when you say you like taller guys? What's the bare minimum height for a guy? I don't know. I mean, I've dated a guy who was, like, 5'8", but, like, I don't know. I look like guys who are, like, I don't know. If they're, like, 6 foot, that's, I guess.
what i like ballpark for but i've i mean i've dated a guy who's like five eight and i didn't have a problem with that of your three boyfriends i don't know if you recall their heights do you um one was six five One was 5'10", and then one was, he had to be like, probably like, yeah, like 5'8", 5'9". Okay, all right. Personality-wise?
Personality-wise, I just like someone who can, like, make me... Wait, hold on. Scoot your microphone. Scoot your mic. Like this? But scoot it this way, because you end up getting your face blocked. There you go. Go ahead.
Honestly someone who can make me laugh like if I can really vibe out with someone and like just click with them I think that's my favorite part about dating honestly is finding someone who I can like who can make you laugh genuinely have a good time. Yeah, okay Anything else income money anything like that?
do they have to provide no i don't like go by the like the caretaker role specific my mom like she grew up like she made everything herself and like i had my dad they're not together anymore but like i mean she literally like she's
built from nothing into something and i'm the same way like i don't want a man to have to provide for me i want to be able to provide for myself if he wants to help which i would hope he would help i don't i don't need him to do all the work for me basically and you so you need a guy to be funny Funny, kind, I guess charismatic. Charismatic? Like... And do you... Cool vibes. Are you willing to date an average guy? Like average look-wise?
average in all dimensions looks personality income height um well usually like whoever i'm with i don't see them as average i mean even if someone else could say that they were average like whoever i'm with i'm with them because i don't think that they're average or at least every time like i'm with someone i'm like oh like this is the coolest person in the world like that's why do you require a guy to be charismatic i don't know it's just because i feel like
yeah exactly the butterflies the chemistry yeah you know the corny shit have you ever met a guy who you have really good chemistry with and they actually ended up being terrible a terrible person Yeah. So maybe, would you agree then that perhaps chemistry is not the best thing to... I think he... People switch up.
for sure and he definitely switched up but I think there were other things that came into factor like going through stuff and stuff like that do you think that there should be like some degree of reciprocity in terms of relationships so like Or if a man, for example, wants a woman who is a virgin, he should also be a virgin. Or if a man wants a girl with a low body count, he should have a low body count.
yeah I don't like double standards because I noticed like even like my guy friends are all like oh like I want to go with a super low body count but they have like a body count of like 60 so you object to the desiring a trait in a partner that they don't possess themselves I think like
it honestly depends like i'd have to like come into more examples but in general i don't really think so because i'm like i'm pretty like even i'd say like i don't so you said that you want a charismatic guy do you consider yourself charismatic I think so. I mean, not right now because I have two brain cells left, but normally, yes. Well, I mean, even earlier on in the show, I don't think you're...
Your personality has changed a whole bunch. I acknowledge you might be a bit tired at this point. You also said funny too. You want a guy who's funny, who can make you laugh. Are you capable of doing that for men? Do you think you're funny? In the same way that you want men to be funny? I don't want to like toot my own horn, but I've been told I've been funny. Okay. So on the charismatic front, I don't know if somebody wants to tell her, I'm not saying this to be mean, you're not charismatic.
But you... That's fine. You desire charisma in a man, I find that. That's a bit of a double standard, don't you think? Wait, were you one of the people that said if I'm just... I don't remember. Were you one of the people that said if a guy came up to you and was all shaky and nervous? Shaky that I wouldn't care. Yeah, that you would still. But that's not charisma at all. That's a good point. She didn't want to concede the point.
So in that situation, she says, I'd be fine with a guy who was nervous and shy and et cetera, et cetera. Yet she also just said... That doesn't mean he doesn't have charisma, though. No, that's not charisma. No, once you get to know someone like that, like if your husband was super shy when he...
met and then you found out later that he ended up being like super charismatic. That's still not charisma. I mean he could be charismatic once you get to know someone. What is Riz short for? Charisma. The ability to... So you think a guy who's super nervous and shy and shaky, is that good riz or bad riz? I guess stereotypically speaking, it wouldn't be good riz, but I've dated a guy like that.
So he was like super shaky and... I mean, he was like nervous. He was like scared to talk to you? He was scared to talk in general. There can be a difference between being objectively charismatic and you enjoying his personality.
Yeah, maybe charismatic wasn't the right word. Maybe that's not the word that I'm looking for, but enjoying their personality, that's a good way to put it. Well, you did say that you consider yourself to be charismatic. I mean, that's the ability to find charismatic. I'll Google it. You don't think she has confidence? Confidence is a different word than charismatic. Charisma, compelling attractiveness or charm that can inspire devotion in others.
Well, maybe not here. I mean, I've been told that I'm charismatic by people. Like, maybe not here because we're in, like, a vicious debate, like, all night. Not vicious, but we've had a little tussles. This man over here drinking Milwaukee Spice. Some people have, like, told you that you're charismatic? Well, yeah, even like...
I mean, she's my mom, so she probably has to say that. But usually people that I end up being friends with, they'll be like, oh, yeah, when you walk into a room and you light it up and stuff. And I really take that to heart, honestly. And that's one of my favorite things. Can I ask you a question?
Your female friends? Male friends? Both. Both? I don't know if you guys have ever seen like a girl's Instagram page. If you look at the comments, it's literally just... all girls gasp oh my god slay queen you're so hot and the girl could be like obese and you will still see comments oh my god you're you're beautiful you're you're you're a 10 out of 10.
So, I don't know, I feel like it's kind of dangerous to just make, just take people at their word sometimes when it comes to puffery or, what's the specific term, not puffery? Flattery? Flattery, yes, thank you. yeah i mean i don't know like some people just have um i don't know it's just their energy almost i want to say yeah okay that's probably that's the word i'm looking for like good energy yeah not even like charismatic i'd say good energy or someone that i can
All right, sure. Okay, all right, well, we need to, oh, we'll do Bumble for, do you want to do the Bumble thing? Bumble thing over here? You want to do the Bumble thing? We'll do the Bumble thing. You. Age for you. You go first. She's not doing it. Okay, for age, probably 25 to 35. Why not? Um, no. No. No. Oh, yeah. He's probably cheating on his wife, so no. No. No. Yes. Sure. Mmm, yes. Uh, no. No. No. Yes. No. Yes.
Yes. I think I've said the most yeses, you guys. Yeah, that's pretty reasonable. Some cute guys on your roster. Yes, he looks funny. No. How many is that? No. No. Okay, we'll have Gress. But just know it comes down to if they, you know, are into the same things I am. Did we already do it with Gressia? Did we already do it with you? Bumble? Yeah. Last podcast, yeah. But right now, no. We could do it again. Fuck it. Okay. 18 to 21. How old are you? I'm 18, but I'm going to turn 19.
Yeah, he's cute. No. Nah. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. What? There's a girl in that picture. No. No. Face wise, yeah. Nah. He has cool style. No. No. No. I don't know which one. No. No. And then Lauren will do Lauren. Okay. And then... We'll wrap up here in just a moment. We'll do a short roast session. Yeah. 30-60. 30 to 60. All right, casting a wide net. Casting a wide net, Lauren. Yeah, I don't know.
oh he looks like he could hold space for me yeah um yeah yeah lauren's getting all the babes okay yeah wait which one right the left left okay uh well uh Okay, I see a woman. Is that a woman behind him? So I'd say no, because if a woman's behind him. But that could be their grandmas or sisters or workers. Nah, he can't hold.
I feel like he couldn't hold space for me. Samurai. What's going on? He looks like he's having fun. He's having fun. I'd probably be a buzzkill to him. So let's see. No, too much fun. I'd need to see another picture of that one. So probably no, I'd need to see. Sure. Can't see his eyes. He's having too much fun. Yeah. He looks like he could hold space for me. Yeah. Yeah, he could. What does that mean, hold space? I just need like a...
Sometimes if a guy's too young, I'll tell him something about my life. He'll be like, ha ha ha, no way. And I'm like, dude, it really happened. And he's like, you're just fucking with me. I'm like, yeah. Anyway, sorry. I'm so sorry. No, no. Yeah. Yeah. I can't see his face, oh no. Um, no. Uh, no, not in the airport. That's 20? Okay. All right. There we go. We're going to do a short roast section. Guys, it doesn't have to be a roast. You can give polite answers. We'll do a short roast session.
I don't know, five, ten minutes maybe. We'll see how it goes. We'll do a redirect over to Andrew's channel. Guys, wait. Is this guy, is this Andrew Bartholomew Wilson? Is he at 100K? Let's look. Hold on. But yeah, TTS is now $25, guys, if you want to get any in. It can be roast, you can say something nice, you can say... This panel has been a pale, black as the singularity in Kashmi Usade's skull. Huh. What? Uh, thank you, Ad. Appreciate it, bro. Thank you, man. Thank you.
But what was I saying? Oh, yeah, we got to get Andrew Wilson to 100K, boys. We're going to do a raid. after the show. So I want you guys to, once we raid you to Andrew Wilson, do want you guys to drop a subscribe so we can make, get them over the threshold. That'd be, he deserves it. He deserves it. Actually, I'm just kidding. Unsubscribe from him. Even if you're watching on the Crucible right now. Unsub. No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Blocking his blessings.
Is there some reverse psychology going on there, Brian? Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. What was I saying? Any final thoughts from any of the... the ladies any final thoughts we'll also do it to a trade too uh would any of you guys date nick i'm trying to set him up who's nick jacob alorty nick back there yes like he here's the thing though he's a virgin No, he's not. Would you date Nick? I think he's cute. What's up, Nick? Is Nick your type? Does he do sounds? Into the mic?
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For the plot. It's the plot, yeah. Do you think he makes a cutie pie? I'll call him for the plot. Does he do music and audio engineering? Is that what he's doing right now? Yeah, he's actually a very talented producer. Yeah. Jessica reloaded donated $25 girl in pink just because your baby daddy is black and your kid is half black doesn't permit you to talk ghetto you look stupid stop it Jessica be nice
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Yo, shout out. W's in the chat. Mute girls. Well, she had, like... W's in the chat. She had what? She had a few girls, like... Oh. Wait, what? What? Like, no, like, that's not... I don't know, like, it's okay that we showed up on time, but it's like... She didn't show up on time because she had a funeral like They like to talk. Okay. Yo, blah, blah, blah. Your message is... I think I might have to censor this one, dude. It's a little...
You're going to have to resubmit it. I apologize, man. Oh, he likes the tattoos. Link's the tattoos. Yeah, she. Thank you, guys. If you want to get any last ones in, go for it. We are going to wrap up here pretty soon. The blah, blah, blah one, I'll read the part that I can. At least I'm not going to totally throw you under the bus here. He says, Lily Copenseith Harder. Dialed in 0430, donated $25.
Circumcision is nothing more than genital mutilation. Any publicly cited benefit is a completely fraudulent claim. Watch Sex and Circumcision, an American love story in front of a live Harvard audience. Okay. Thank you, bro. Some of these girls said that it's a deal breaker if the guy is uncut. And I actually kind of wanted to go into that earlier on in the show.
Who said it was unhygienic? Who said that? I think I was one of them. If they don't take care of it. Disavow. That's where you get to know them and make sure they're clean. Exactly. Precisely. It just scares me. Yeah. Damn, bro. We got to have support for our uncut.
Brothers, I'd have support for them because here's what's happening, man. There's way too much goddamn discrimination. These men, they're getting the penises chopped up, and I'm upset about it. You know what? Here's what we're going to do. We are going to pass legislation. We're going to ban circumcision in the United States. Intactivism. It's called intactivism. I'm an intactivist.
And we're going to say no more of this shit. I will not stand. Right, Andrew? We won't stand for this shit. Right, Andrew? Let me hear a yeehaw, Andrew. Let me hear a yeehaw. I didn't help myself. All right. No, no, no, we won't. We won't. It is true. In retrospect, the more I think about it, I don't think that there's a way to logically get behind.
get away from the fact that it does seem to be genital mutilation I don't really know how you can get past that exactly by the way guys I have had to turn moderation on typically I will get most of these out I just want to make sure none of them are A little too saucy. Hold on. Josh donated $25. Hey, Red, who said feminism is a trap? How doomed are the strumpets across from you? Especially the one in pink with the wizard sleeve. There's hope for everyone. Illinois boy donated $25.
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There are certain things I could have handled a little better. Look, we had like three no-shows. We had two or three flakes. People were running super late. We had to delay the start of the show like 45, 50 minutes. Very uncommon. I was frustrated. I was upset. Obviously, I like to try to get the show out on time. If it wasn't for these external factors that tend to happen when it comes to no shows, people running late.
I can almost certainly guarantee you that we would be able to start the shows precisely on time at 5 p.m. Pacific. I do tend to... And punctuality, something's very important for me. And so it frustrates me, perhaps even more than the viewers, for us to start the show late. We don't answer to concerned trolls. We don't answer to the concerned trolls.
I'm sorry about your concern trolling that you thought Brian didn't handle some situation that you've never been in in your fucking life perfectly. Fuck off, concern troll. No one cares. Fuck off. Yeah, and it is like... week after week every single you know no shows flakes they're rude about it they don't have any consideration for what you're trying to do with your time and your business and anyways it is what it is
But, what was that? I don't know. Yeah, okay. All right. Thank you, Andrew. Appreciate it. Ed Max donated $25. Crazy how the females that look the most like Gollum are the ones who think they are a ten. Interesting. Okay. Dialed in 0430 donated $25. Uncut men are more likely to satisfy via penetration. 98% of the world is uncut. Both men and women lose out on pleasure when a male infant is sexually assaulted at birth. Is that from outside? The rap music or whatever?
Yo, dial it in. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Well put. Definitely, yeah, men lose out on pleasure, I guess, and not good. Not good. Sorry, guys, I'm a little tired. I've already been at it for a long time. Sorry, guys. Last few things. Wait, there was one last question I needed to ask. If you guys want, you can get in any more TTSs, but I think we actually hit.
Most of it. Any final questions from anybody on the panel before we wrap things up? There was a... book that someone asked uh i saw a question and it said what is a good book for debating and there's a book called morals and dogma the last name is pike i can't remember the first name but that's a good one so yeah i saw that All right. I guess I have just a question for Andrew. Makes me kind of nervous, though, the aggression. So my question is, I guess, about, like, you are a Christian.
Do you claim that? Yeah, I'm a baptized Eastern Orthodox Christian, correct? Okay, so I guess I was just wondering about your use of cuss words and like... I mean, like, fuck and shit. And fucking shit. Yeah, like that. Those cuss words? Yeah. Do you think that... Let me just... I'll just kind of cut to the chase really quick. Do you think that you're fooling God when you say shoot?
Or darn it. Do you think that God's stupid? Do you think God's retarded? That when you go, darn it, he doesn't know what you mean? Or when you go, frick, do you think he doesn't know? Are you fooling him? Are you fooling him? Are you like, God, earmuffs, God. Earmuffs. No, I don't think that's how God sees it. If you try to change things, I think God sees that you're trying to do something.
that you know to follow his way yeah so that you understand these are these are social taboos not biblical taboos they're social taboos The word, just so you understand. I didn't get to finish. It's, I guess, too, the way that, because remember, we're representations of Christ. We're kind of like his attorney. We're God's counsel here on earth. Split. Yeah. Do you just feel that the way that you.
come at people, even people who are non-Christians, do you think that that's how Jesus would do it? Or do you not believe in Jesus either? How should I go about things that would make you happy? It's not about, I'm just asking from a Christian who has seen the show. And I'm asking you. As a Christian who has seen the show. And since you're concerned with the way that I approach people with the correct tone, even though Christ was literally making corded whips and running people out of temples.
I clearly my tone is way off. I would like for you instead of telling me how I how do you feel about A, B and C? Obviously, I'm wrong. Tell me what I need to do to make you happy. What can I do for you? Well, it's not to make me happy. I just something I've noticed is if people watching the show think that that's how a Christian would treat somebody, especially. it just comes off very mean and judgmental and i'm not saying we're not to judge righteously in the church we are but
I've just seen you cussing and like saying, shut the F up. If Jesus were to be here, that's not how Jesus would talk to. You've never seen me say, shut the F up on this show. Yeah, that was me. I mean. it's a lot of cussing and it's and you do kind of you know you are a debater and i get it but i just from a christian do i say some socially taboo words that you don't like do no it has nothing about what i don't like it has
to do with God's nature, but I know you don't believe in the Bible now, so that makes more sense. What does God's nature say about your tattoo? I got these before I was a Christian. Okay, so as long as I swore before I was a Christian, that would make it fine. Yeah, because once you're born again, you have to be born again.
Okay, so then why don't you cover the tattoo up? Because I was born again. I was forgiven. Yeah, but why don't you cover it up? Because if I covered it up, then that's me saying that I'm not born again, that I wasn't forgiven. Right, so I'm not going to lie to God about my nature, right?
Because I say the F word. I'm just saying scripture tells us how to act and it perverse cuss words. Then tell me how I should act. What should I do? How should I change my tone to make you happy? It's not to make me happy. It would be to make God happy. It's not. Okay. Can we open up? I would like. I see you're offended. I'm glad that you brought this up because I'd like to do a social experiment with you if you don't mind. Just a very quick social experiment. Christian to Christian.
If we were to return your cell phone, I would like to open up our DMs. and go dm for dm and see how many dms you've gotten from people who are thanking you for bringing them to christ and how first how many people think let's do it are you ready yeah let's do it okay great let's do it Yeah, I grabbed it last time. You first. I am going. Here. I'll let someone else read through it, too. Just don't read the one with 2K. Okay. Someone want to go through it? Yeah, let's go through it.
show i can't show okay yeah just read them go to my like message requests and stuff where am i going go to message request years okay Thank you for your Christian post. That prayer is almost as beautiful as dot, dot, dot. I'm not going to click on them. I'm just going to scroll through and see what I see. That has to do with God.
No, no, no. How many people have converted to Christianity? Well, you haven't converted anybody. I haven't? Jesus does that. Yeah, you can't convert anybody or save anybody. Okay, well, how many people whose words... Your words have reached who have thanked you for converting them. That's my question. People are thanking you for converting them? No, they're thanking me for hearing the words. That's it. I mean, it's a lot. She can...
And it's not about, you know, I'm just. Okay, so how many? Okay, I'm not even going to lie. She's got a lot. Of people who say I came to Christ because of you. One video. over 4 million, a million. Over a million people? Yeah. Viewing. I haven't converted anybody because I'm not Jesus.
And I'm not yelling at people either to do it. Yeah, so I just want to make sure I got this right. According to you, over a million people have come to Christ because of you. That's not what I said. That's not what I said. Because your words reached him. No, that's not what I said. You made that up. I said a million people have you just this video 4 million on this video
I have a reach, and it helps people, but it plants a seed because I'm not Jesus, and I don't tell people to follow me, and I'm not saving anybody, and neither are you. I didn't say I was. I'm saying that people reach out who said that they've heard my words. That's all I'm saying. Well, I'm not sure. I assume that you're using the word and your words to reach people? Yes. Okay, great. So then...
If they hear your words and they would not have ordinarily have heard anybody else's words and your words are convincing to them, and they would probably notify you or let you know? They have. Okay, great. How many of them? I wasn't counting, but I was scrolling, and she had a lot of DMs. I'm not even going to lie about people saying, thank you for your message. You've changed my life. All over the world. All over the world. Millions and millions, right?
Hundreds or thousands and thousands or tens of thousands? I mean, it doesn't matter who did more. How many? I'm just wondering. How many do you think? I mean, over time, I don't know. How many do you have? So here's the difference, right? I would never, ever, ever in a million fucking years
ever tell anybody that information. How many people have been converted because of me? How many people send me those DMs? How many people are asking me? No one has been converted because of me. Stop, let me finish, let me finish. Because this is just a bunch of virtue signaling bullshit. It's a bunch of virtue signaling bullshit. And I don't fucking care if you don't like my tone. I don't give a shit. I don't care.
Well, for anyone watching, I would just hope you know that if you love God, Christians don't act like that. And they just don't. Nobody cares what heretics have to say. You're a heretic. It's not heretics. Nobody cares.
What denomination are you in? I'm non-dominational. Which heresy denomination are you from? You just like to hear yourself talk and you just say different things. Which heresy denomination are you from? I'm not in a denomination. You're non-denominational. You're non-denominational. Is that funny? Yeah. I think it's funny, yeah. Okay.
yeah i think it's sad that you represent all of you for all of you who are listening out there for all of you who are listening i don't listen to fucking heretics who tell you that you can fool god and he's not going to actually know that you said fuck when you said Frick. But you're just saying that. I don't say that. Wait a minute. Big brained fucking Protestant over here. Not so much. Big brained. You can fool God by saying frick. We are to be Jesus' representation on earth.
So that people who are non-believers can see the way that you act. You're not to teach. You're not to teach. You're to sit there and be silent on earth. It's when people observe you. That's what you're to do. Okay, well, you don't believe the Bible. I don't believe the Bible? You said that tonight. What does Paul say?
say about women teaching what does he say says that they're to not teach in the church and to listen to men and you're not to correct men are you but it's not to assume authority and i don't teach you're not to correct men are you well i can correct you because i wouldn't call you're not to correct men are you i mean my husband yeah so your husband he could come to me and correct me you're not to correct men are you no
Then stop trying to correct me. I meant no. I'm not supposed to correct me. Then stop trying to correct me. Stop. No. On this podcast, they got even the whole thing. We've been looking bad. Listen, can I ask you this? Warful spirit. Would you act like this?
Or treat people like that as a Christian. You could be a whole Christian. I personally don't. I personally don't. I believe he makes a valid point when he brings up this. I'm sorry. Did you just appeal to somebody else to make your argument for you? You just got done saying.
it's not for you to correct men and yet you when i said then stop correcting men you said no you have what's called a willful spirit no what you have is you're actually misplacing conviction from god and you're placing as i'm judging you Oh, yeah? Did God convict you to correct me? Yeah, he did. He did? So God's going against his own teachings? I don't know. I'm not sure.
I just don't believe in that. I don't know. That's not what it says. You're twisting scriptures because you talk fast and you yell at people. I'm not talking fast. And I'm not yelling. You were saying, I am not supposed to teach a man. I'm not teaching you anything. I'm telling you, I'm telling you something. It's almost like an open rebuke. When someone is sinning or doing something, you would go to them in the church.
before eventually kicking them out. But obviously I can't kick you out. But I'm just telling you as a Christian. Yeah, you can't. It's not for you. And it's really not for you. Because you're not a man. You can't correct me. I would say for people that watch you.
and they think that that's how Christians should act, I would just say I disagree. Well, that's great. I would just say that I disagree. I think that if anybody's so fucking stupid that they think that when she says frick, she's fooling God. See, you keep saying that, I don't say it. He doesn't know what she means, right?
Anything you say in lieu, what you're doing is you're actually making a conflation. I've tried to explain this to people before. It's impossible to do with women because you guys operate off of pure feelings. You think... You think that your emotional state is what makes you a Christian. That's why you guys are all heretics. It's insane. The non-denominationalists are the worst. So that you understand. A social taboo saying the word shit.
is a social taboo it is not listen this is stated it stay over and over again these are social taboos you not cussing doesn't make you a good christian Do you have Bible scriptures for that, though? And I'm not going to get into it, but I'm just saying we are not going to speak that way. Can we get a final point from each of you, final?
Final point on that. I love this. Yeah, listen, so here's my final point. You're not fooling God when you say, oh, I don't use these socially constructed words, which are in no way taboo. other nations so let me ask a question a real quick question if in China the word shit was not a social taboo is it okay for the Chinese to say it if they're Christians
Or can just the word shit is just non-Christian? Just saying it is not what Christians do. No, it's the perverse meaning behind it. It's the meaning behind it. Word. Okay, so it's a socially constructed meaning, right? But if we know that God knows that, and I'm just saying God knows our hearts, and he tells us what we speak from our mouth comes from the abundance of our heart. So when we say things that we know to be wicked words, he would know that. So if I say the word shit...
You think that I actually mean excrement off of the ground? Like if I snub my nose and I go, oh shit, do you think that there's evil meaning in my heart? I think when you are talking to people... Just answer my question. Please. It's just so irrelevant to what I'm telling you, though. Answer my question, please. If I snub my toe and I say shit, is the meaning in my heart malicious and evil?
Final thought from both of you on this. I don't know how to answer because he's just saying something totally different. They've been doing this the whole podcast. It doesn't make sense. Final thought, Andrew. Final thought on that. yeah you don't understand because you never thought about it for five seconds that's what drives me no you just twist up you never thought about any of these concepts for even five seconds you haven't it drives me it drives me berserk
Because I've actually taken the time to sit down and talk to clergy. I've talked to tens of thousands of actual clergy about how this operates. That's insane. That's insane. That's not how Jesus would act. It's insane. What's insane? Okay, I am much younger and I've not been a Christian for a long time, but even I can tell someone as advanced as you are probably in the church that should know God and his nature. The fact, the way that you do talk to girls and stuff, it's insane.
Like, you're held to a higher standard. I mean, it's just not... Yeah, well, great. I'm sure no one's ever said this to you before. Look at what you Protestants have done. You Protestants did a great job stopping all this prostitution and abortion and everything in society with your fucking tone policing, haven't you? You haven't accomplished shit.
Society is the most decadent it's ever been thanks to you Protestants. Thank you. Thank you for being nice to them while they fucking destroy the world. Thank you. Very kind of you to tone police, everybody. Very kind. It's worked out real well, right? Prostitution's way down, isn't it? Decadence way down, isn't it? Thank you. Thank you, Protestants.
Great job, Protestants. I know why you just keep calling me a Protestant. You're non-denominational, right? You're a non-denominational Protestant. What do you want me to say? I'm not, you know... involved with any of that i just take care of my you know own faith but you're on here telling girls about your relationship with god and it's just frustrating was it your made it up faith my made it up faith
Yeah, is it your made-it-up faith, or is there some church authority that you're under? I don't know. I was just trying to tell you that. You don't know? You're not listening to me. See, you twist things, and that's what you... All I was trying to tell you, and I wish you would just let me say it in one sentence.
One sentence. I do not think it's a good representation if you claim to be a follower of Christ to be cussing and swearing at people and acting like that. I'm sorry I interrupted your chastisement. I'm sorry. My bad. Sorry I interrupted you while you were upset and wanted to chastise me publicly because you don't like how I say things. It's the way that you reacted and you just flipped it and attacked me.
Yeah, I mean I I tend to mock when people say stupid shit. I tend to mock the stupid God is not stupid The words you're saying are stupid. They don't even make sense. When I ask you basic questions, you flounder. Basic questions. Because you're asking me questions that are not even relevant. You're talking about dog poop. They are relevant.
The scriptures say no perverse language should come from your lips. Yeah, but what does that mean? And that the way that we act should be a representation of Christ to help. Yeah, what does perverse mean, though? What does that mean? perverse language what does that mean what is the meaning behind that perverse language means i don't know how to explain it it means just you don't know yeah you don't know
That's my whole point. That's why I brought up the snubbing your nose and saying shit. Is that perverse? Because I don't think it's perverse. Perverse language means it has a bad, dark intention, but humans use it for sexual or evil, hate, malice.
That would be perverse. So perverse would mean that there's intent behind whatever it is, right? Yes, and I agree with the intent. The intent's what matters, right? Right. Okay, so you can't read my heart. So if I say the word shit... why is the intent evil or malicious or perverse except how explain it to me you're missing what i'm saying i'm saying that when you are representing jesus what makes you different
than just someone who's out in the street saying F you, F you, F this. I mean, I'm just saying it's... Because intent. Intent is what is the perverse. That is what is perverse. For instance, okay?
Have you ever heard in the South, they do a lot of things like they might say, oh, it's colder than a witch's tit. Have you ever heard that? No. you never heard that have you ever heard oh it's hang on hang on uh it's so cold outside there's icicles hanging off the devil's balls have you ever heard that no
No, okay, these are common phrases, common saying, especially down south, right? Are they evil, perverse people for saying those things, for saying it's colder than a witch's tit? Are they evil? Is that perverse? Could it be perverted? Yeah. Is it perverse to just say it? I mean... It depends how far you are in Christ, but someone like you, yeah, I would expect more. That's all I'm saying. Okay, is it perverse to say it or not?
To be honest, I wasn't listening. It does have to be final word from each of you on this. You won't answer the question. You do everything but answer the question. Ask me the question. No, ask me the question. Because I wasn't listening. I tuned you out because you're arguing. And you're sneaky. I told you my opinion and you just started going on and on and on and you've just lost me.
Ask your question one sentence. I have lost you. Is it perverse to say it's colder than a witch's tit outside? Yes, it is. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. And what makes it perverse? Because you're saying the word. and you know what it represents and you're not stupid yeah and i think i do think it's perverse i do what about now if i said it's colder than a witch's nipple yeah that's perverted i would expect a
Dumb young kid to say something like that. Not a grown man who says that he follows Christ and is trying to teach people or lead them to Christ. Don't bring the witch nipples into this, Andrew. It's embarrassing. Now, what if they said it's colder than hell outside? Colder than a witch's breath. Colder than hell, that's just kind of a stupid thing to say. It's not perverse? It's not perverted. See, perverse comes from perverted. Yeah, so what's not perverse about invoking hell?
Because you know it's not the same. Talking about hell, Jesus talks about... Right. Okay, did Jesus talk... No, let me speak. Did Jesus talk about perverted things or did he talk about hell? We can talk about hell. I mean, he's talked about hell, yeah.
Okay, so why are you comparing it to perverted words? That's just... Because I'm just... I'm giving you an example of how absurd it is for you to take kind of these socially constructed taboos that you just don't like and trying to map them... It's not me. I didn't... Listen, it's not me. A reality of sin. Somebody's saying it's colder than hell outside, right? That's not perverse, lady.
It's the Bible saying it, not me. For some reason in your brain. The Bible says it. No, it's where? Where does the Bible say that? Okay, let's bring up the scriptures. Yeah, let's do it. Bring it up. Bring up where it says. that that is perverse to say it's colder. than a witch's tent you know that because it's not specifically in there and that's why you have to have conviction from god because not every situation is in the bible can we just like play can we not talk about the witch nips
Do you want to make a final thing, Andrew? I do want to try to wrap things up. It's almost two. Yeah, so anyway, the whole point here is that the reason you can't answer any of these basic questions. I did answer them. You just didn't like it. I said no, and it is perverted. All you did was say it hurts my feelings. That's it. They don't like your answers. It's a fight. Exactly. You said a whole bunch of nothing. I don't agree with a lot.
I gave you scriptures. You gave no scriptures. You just say, I confess and swear and do whatever I want. Listen, here's the thing about God's nature, the logos, right? God gave us logic. Logic and so the thing is is that if you say anything to me ever which is perverse to the nature of God and the logos and logic I'm going to dismiss it as being illogical because it's not of the nature of God
Do you understand? Yes, but that's disrespectful to God because he would not cuss and swear at people. It's disrespectful to God to obey his nature? Okay. Do you think you're obeying his nature by saying F you? That's insane. That doesn't... That's crazy, son. That is crazy. That's crazy. I don't know. I'm just joking. I'm just typing. I'm just typing. Wait. I actually... Who's a non-Christian? I actually want to defend Andrew. I want to defend Andrew here. So I'm...
I'm in my mid-30s, right? I'm in my mid-30s. And I've been pretty much, I would say, like agnostic atheist for like pretty much most of my life, right? And like... You know, I've been exposed to some religious stuff here and there. It's not because you're asking him how many people has Andrew converted. I'm not quite there yet. But... Andrew has made the most compelling case for religion that I've heard. I would, you know.
Sorry, I'm tired. I'm not really making sense right now. But Andrew's like the closest person who's pushed me more towards religion than anybody. So, I don't know, just a... Yeah, but you have to understand, Brian, that I didn't use the correct tone. I never spoke about your tone. I agree with a lot of things Andrew says, especially on the religion topic, but I do feel like this podcast is very much like...
I don't know. It's like very... Wait, did you just say you agree with a lot of what I say on the religious topic? What did you say? You called it negative? It's kind of negative. Because what I say makes sense, right? It is. Do you feel threatened by my gigantic cell phone? Yes, that definitely threw me off. Can I ask you, are you convicted that what I'm saying is making sense?
Convicted? Yeah. Are you convicted? I mean, I'd have to listen to you talk more. Yeah, but it definitely makes sense, right? Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, and the thing is about the nature of the logos. and the nature of logic. When people hear you speak and they hear what you're actually saying and they can logically deduce it from something other than because the Holy Spirit told you so.
It's far more compelling to people. Far more compelling. That's just been my experience. But then again, I've debated with the largest atheists in the world. I don't remember you, ma'am, ever doing anything of the sort. Here you go.
You are very offended, I can tell. Oh, fuck! Sorry, I didn't... Yeah, I would never in a million years make the declaration... I would make the declaration you're a heretic, but I would never make a salvific claim or say something as absurd as you're not a Christian. Anyways, guys, I gotta let the TTS...
has come through and then we got to wrap up the show we have quite a few in the queue so uh that was a very fun exchange very fun exchange i'm sure you guys will be best friends after this so okay Takedo donated $25. Not agreeing with what some woman do isn't misogyny. Not agreeing with what some men do isn't misandry. Try to ignore your competitive ego and you might learn. Or teach something. A underscore warzone donated $25.
Screw it. Just cause him curious. And on a lighter note, I do have a rather off-topic question. But have any of you watched the Amazon Fallout? And if you did, what did you think? If you haven't, why not? It was missed. Nickelodeon donated $25. If women ran the world, would it be able to function? 4pm means 5.30. Four times three equals nine. Girl math would collapse economies. That's horrible. You're welcome, women. My lab is smoking. That's horrible. Illinois boy donated $25. Andrew.
How much better would the world be if the Byzantine Empire never fell to the Ottomans? Hashtag Constantinople not Istanbul Hashtag bring back Byzantium Am I allowed to smoke? Go ahead, Andrew. Light it up. Light it up, Andrew. Light it up. Oh, this is a World of Warcraft. None. They're both cheap, easy, and spread diseases. Good. What about drinking a beer? Is that on Christian 2? Double agent donated $25. Brian, I didn't say you did a miserable job tonight.
i said you came off miserable as an annoyed frustrated irritated short fuse as a host you crushed as usual andrew jesus man relax All right, double agent. Yeah, thank you. Yeah. Am I allowed to smoke? Am I allowed to drink? Go ahead. Light one up, Andrew. Light one up. You don't want my... Okay, I shouldn't have called you a non-person, but I should have said maybe leave more.
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I have been a fairly secular Christian my entire life. Since watching Andrew, I have been seriously considering Catholicism and I'm sure I am only one of many. Andrew is Chad. Anonymous donated $25. 1 Timothy 2.12 KJV. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use up authority over the man, but to be in silence. Which you were not. To be fair, no real Christians would watch the show at Secular. No real Christians watching the show?
hope this is a very secular show i think i'm your first irish fan well expect for andrew wait i just want to say thx for opening my eyes in the dating and you have an awesome pod Real Christians go on the show, but they just don't watch it. What, real Christians? I do, I would say... What? He's talking about you, by the way. You have done a real service to the world by being gentle and understanding.
You should reevaluate yourself and your faith. Paul McEwan Rogers donated $25. You're having a late one. I always miss the show. I'm based in the UK. Andrew, you're a fucking legend. Brian and I maining destroy Warlock in War Within. What WoW class suits each girl? I mean, I don't play World of Warcraft anymore. I used to. back in the day but uh do real christians smoke there's you are so offended if it's not true can you answer my question yes i can
Someone could be living in sin. It does not mean that they don't love Jesus. Having unrepentant sin is much different. Is smoking a sin? Technically, yes. Is drinking a beer a sin? I would say no, only getting drunk. Okay. Okay. What about eating a jelly donut? Is that a sin? No, and I think you're just... now starting to reach and be ridiculous. What if I eat a jelly donut and say, ah, this tastes like shit. Is that a sin? I think you just like to argue.
Okay. Yeah, I do like to argue my religion. I don't waste my time. What's the whole point of this podcast? I'm sorry. Also, do you believe scripture doesn't say you shouldn't curse? Just want clarification. Andrew, would you debate, Chase? Cursing is not the same thing as saying the word shit. Cursing is to curse. You're actually cursing people. That's what it's telling you. What's going on here, though?
I would actually, so if I eat, if I take a bite of a piece of food and I go, this tastes like shit, you're saying that that's, you're not a Christian. I'm not saying you're not a Christian. That's not what I'm saying, though. You're twisting it.
I'm saying when you're on this show and you're telling people that you love God and you're quoting scripture, but you're saying, you know, F this and F that it does. It's just not a good example. And then you're saying, Oh God would swear. The Bible doesn't say that. I'm like, okay, well then I'm not sure if we're.
in the same thing yeah no what i'm saying is is that first of all on the show i rarely use religious arguments other people bring up religion like you did i use secular arguments to convince secularists away from secularism Have you ever tried that? It's really hard. You should try it sometimes. It's actually difficult to use secular arguments. Do you consider yourself not secular? He's an Orthodox Christian. I'm an Orthodox Christian. Well, just because you call yourself that.
I was baptized. Listen, you could be baptized. I need you to understand. There's a difference between heretic.com where you can just go and say, I'm Christian because I say so. and actually being formally introduced into a Catholic church. That's a process. It's a three-year-long process. It's not a, oh, I just woke up.
and i accepted jesus as my lord and savior made up whatever headcanon i wanted it's kind of crazy that you're like questioning if andrew's a christian that's kind of crazy i'm not questioning if he's a christian it's a bad example
And what I'm saying to you is you can be Baptist, you can be Orthodox, you can be Catholic, you can be whatever, but you can still walk out in the streets. I'm going to have to let the rest come through. Twix Doodle donated $25. Tone policing and being nice has helped no one in today's society.
It's insane to think continuing the same bees is going to produce something different. They don't care. These are all your fans. I don't care. These are your fans. Of course they're going to get you. Morning all. Andrew, you're a legend. Brian, which wow class or race suits each girl? I mean Warlock Destro. Which one of them is a goblin? That's it. They're kind of all robes. Definitely robes.
Trying to overrun people in debates with anger and rage and getting loud. Also very misogynic, no respect. MF Richie donated $50. Tell Carrot Top to puck off. P is cleaner than F Andrew. TTS voice proves it. The big guy is listening and can see her tattoo on the temple. Brian and Andrew, great job. Keep the ladies in check. Thank you, bro. Appreciate it. Thank you, man. There's a bunch coming through. Just FYI.
I'm a Protestant but Christians aren't called to tone police themselves to make lost sinners feel better about themselves. A underscore warzone donated $25. Also to the girl in the black on the right middle, I have to say you have a beautiful and infectious smile. You, I think. Do you want to respond? Do you want to say thank you? Oh, me? Yeah, do a little wink into the camera. Austrian's trumpet slayer donated $25. There you go. holy schnitzel what oh oh yeah
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Sleep well. Eat good. Stay hydrated. Stay alive. Live within your means. Keep life in perspective. Stay focused on your goals and never let a strumpet in your bed. My best to all. Kill of cereal. You need to read the Karen Bible. The Karen Bible of tone policing. So Christianity is really, it's a religion of being nice. You're so offended that I just said cussing was bad. It's a religion of being nice. You just keep asserting that I'm offended.
You're obviously offended. Well, I don't mock people. Kill of cereal? I know, I know. Because... Because niceness is really what Christianity is about. No, it's not about niceness. Telling the truth is not always nice. Like what I told you tonight. You didn't want to hear it and you defend it and it's fine. You didn't tell any truth.
You haven't told a single truth this evening. You're definitely not about religion. You're trying to correct a man on theology. Not... I guess I'm not even going to go there with you. The point is, I think anyone... Would just know. He wouldn't talk. Oh, they would just know. Okay. Great argument. I mean, it's not read the Bible. Great. Read the Bible. Great. Read the Bible.
Yeah, great argument. Oh, your great argument was talking about dog poop. My great argument was to test your logic. You never tested anything. You twisted it. Hey, Brian. You should invite Arako TV, Andrew Knows, to the whatever panel sometime. Maybe even Griffin Mind or Abbo and Preach or the other Red Pill YouTuber guys. I've been talking to Eric O. Would make for interesting content. I've been talking to him for over a year. JMac donated $25.
I grew up your typical California liberal slash atheist. As I've reached my 30s I'm glad people like Andrew are pushing back against the degeneracy that my generation has pushed on society. Do better. Who's the primary victim of porn and why? Obviously, it's men, right? Or it's both. It's both of them. It's both. Definitely both. Congratulations. Congratulations. Also Trump 2024. Travis Pickle donated $25. Same with Andrew.
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to take it out take that shit down don't look back this is a call to action that I've been starting to give at the end of the podcast you're not that in deep you're not too far in deep no i already told you i don't do nudity i know but i guess it's a slippery it's like the the it's a gateway
Like, within a year, you're going to be doing gangbangs, bro. Trust me. Definitely not. Trust me, bro. I've seen it too many times. Oh, let me just post some lewd content. Here's me in some fucking anime costumes. Literally 30 days later, like Bukkake 30 dude gangbang. It's done, bro. It's over. Get that. Yo.
You know what? Just because I really kind of just be scamming guys on my OnlyFans, I'll take it down. Yikes. That's a yikes. Yeah. Well, it's a lot of thirsty men on my Instagram, so I just thought, you know, why not make some money off of it? Excuse me? Oh, my God. She's so toxic, bro. Yeah. Like, you guys want to be in my DMs and comment on, like, there's dreads. So. I'm going to scam you. Subscribe to my OnlyFans. I'm going to scam you for money. Rude. I mean, it's not really a scam.
You don't know. You literally used the word scam, didn't you? Yeah. Did you not just say scam? I did. I mean, call it what you want. Have you scammed a guy? Uh-uh. Have you ever had sugar daddy? Uh-uh. Have you ever pegged a dude? Huh? Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. No. Because butt stuff is... I kind of feel like you're... I don't know. I get like intuition from people. I feel like you're... You kind of like peck dudes. I don't know. Really? It's weird.
yeah like you want to dominate you know what i mean do i look like i peg dudes absolutely oh my goodness you're right you do every all day every day yeah yeah all day every day have you have you actually though oh lauren wait lauren yeah called action to you you've been coming on the show for over a year you're you're you're a courtesan yes Can we get a commitment from you tonight? What? That you will stop the prostitution tonight. We can save you, Lauren. Lauren.
I've been doing this 10 years, Brian. Hey, you want to get out eventually, right? Well, like if I like become a mobile, sure. But.
but i mean i i think that uh i think it's good to be if you become a mobile like if a guy just like oh like down like wheelchair mobile oh then i would stop has that do you think anyone's ever like like has a girl ever gone in a wheelchair from like getting fucked too hard you guys sorry sorry no but there was this actually disabled porn star and she was in a wheelchair and she looks sexy like she had a wheelchair and she had jet black hair and a ponytail she was she was pretty hot
What the fuck? Okay, good talk. All right. But thank you for your call to action. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I appreciate it. Just looking out. Thanks, Brian. So you're down to just stop that shit now and become a nun? I think that's the only thing that's... You down to become a nun? If I'm like 50. 50. I'll fully commit to a nunnery. I appreciate your call. I would ask the redhead, but she's a...
Stop trying to usurp your authority. Illinois boy donated $25. Andrew, are all Protestant denominations big bad or do any of them have good theology slash doctrine? There are many theological doctrines which I agree with. Beaten Cheeks donated $25. I'm waking up 5 a.m. in Florida, Andrew dunking on fake religious zealots. Andrew can't stop winning too bad. He's married. Otherwise, he'd be in the soft guy era like me drizzle drizzle drizzle drizzle just take what's up?
Proverbs 4.24 KJV put away from thee a frowed mouth, and perverse lips put far from thee. Okay. Thank you, Just a Guy. Appreciate it. Thank you all. Killer serial donated $25. Put your clothes back on, bring the mic out, and let the lyrics flow instead of the various goo seeping around from your debaucherous behavior. you have a skill other than your body nurture it yo you could get if you drop some fire bars
I'm telling you, bro. There's probably people watching this shit right now that are trying to sign you. Cut this only thing's shit out, bruv. Cut this shit out. Travis Bickle donated $25. Carrot Top would rather you be kind and nice and let these people burn in hell for eternity rather than dare hurt their feelings by rebuking them. Would you be kind to Satan if he were sitting there? Thank you.
Austrian's trumpet slayer donated $25 the guilty and the polluted fight they deny they struggle Andrew likes to rub his fat titties on brains dumpy what the fuck was that what the fuck what the fuck was that all right nick we're gonna raid whoa grandma 78 if you can get her pulled up on twitch all right a couple of final things here guys we're gonna get andrew to 100k dude the sun's gonna
The sun's going to be rising. I'm sorry. Well, Andrew's on the East Coast. This guy's a fucking legend. He stayed up till fucking... It's 5.15 a.m. where this guy lives. Gentlemen, you need to get this guy to 100,000 subscribers because this man is a fucking workhorse. He stayed up super late. You can hide that. He stayed up. He stayed up very late so that he could argue with these fine women.
Fine ladies. Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. And so, guys, you need to get him to 100,000 subscribers. We're going to do Raid here in just a moment to his channel. Stay tuned on YouTube. Drop him a sub because he's a... legend. He's got beautiful hair. Let me give you some more reasons. He's got a beautiful beard.
I also filled in tonight. I filled in tonight. We were going to have Natalie Winters, but her flight got – there was a flight issue. So she will be there on – should be there on Tuesday. What are some other reasons why you should go subscribe to him? He's got a great beard. He's... He has a very cool... Like the way he smokes cigarettes is really cool. It's just like...
I feel like we're stretching it out now. And he's an all-around great guy. So drop him a sub, guys. I promise you one thing. That I'm not... I'm going to drive you hundreds of miles away, leave you stranded at a gas station to steal your luggage. I can promise you that much. Yeah, that's interesting. Okay. All right. We're going to do a raid. Yo, guys, I can't wait to go home and watch the new season of House of the Dragon Boys.
New season. I think it's better than Game of Thrones. We're going to do, let me do my final little shout outs here. We have... Okay, GG, well played to the panel. Last call, hit the like button, please, on your way out. Thank you for tuning in tonight. You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me. Andrew, light up a ciggy here. I appreciate that. Thank you to everyone who soup chats, donates, supports the show.
We will be live again Tuesday at 5 p.m. Pacific with Natalie Winters. Any girls who want to be on the show, DM out whatever on Instagram if you can make it to San Barbara. 07 is in the chat. I'm going to do a Twitch raid. Who are we raiding on Twitch? We're doing Rogue Grandma. Let's raid her. Thank you for watching on Twitch, guys. You guys are legit. Follow, follow quick. If you're watching over on Twitch, drop us a follow. All good. Thank you for coming. Appreciate it. It's all good.
Okay, so uh Nick pull up the twitch Okay, fine. That's work. Okay. Guys, we're raiding whoa grandma. She's like 82. She's I don't know bro. She stays up late. I'm pretty sure she's in the US. I don't know. She's on a crazy sleep schedule, but she's a fucking legend. She actually only sleeps like two hours a night because she's a fucking
Giga. What's the female? She's a legend, guys. Show her some love. Tell her we need her on the podcast. Be nice. Be nice, guys. She's playing World of Warcraft retail. So I'm going to start the raid here in just a moment. Show her some love, guys. She's got like...
Couple hundred, 200 followers. Love you. Give it a little love. All right. That rate is going out here in just a second. Before we send you over, be sure to follow the whatever channel. Drop us a prime sub on the way out if you have one. Okay, rating now. And that should be going through? What is she's doing? Like some PvP shit? I don't know what she's doing. What is she doing? What's up, Bo-Grandma? Look at that focus. She's focused right now. What is she playing? World of Warcraft?
Retail. See, this is where I disagree with Woe Grandma. She's playing the retail. She should be playing classic. I'm a classic Andy, so. So, you know. Classic Andy. We need to figure out. Is she gonna speak? It's a group. Damn, she's been streaming for seven hours. That's almost as long as us. She's a beast. She's killing it. Anyways.
I think she's so locked in. She doesn't even know this. We're here, boys. She's locked in. She's just, look at this. Look at her focus. This is what makes her a legendary gamer, is fucking focus. Look at this focus she has. Switching around her talents on the cast bar. She doesn't have time for this whatever shit. She's just fucking zeroed in. She's zeroed in. She's grinding. She's killing fucking mobs. She's fucking killing it boys.
Okay, I don't think we're going to get any attention from her, so. Anyways, all right, cool. You can close that out. Unfortunately, she did not notice us.
Senpai or whatever the fuck. I don't know. So we need to do a raid to Andrew. Oh, wait. Shit. A couple more came through. Okay. We'll let these come through and then we will wrap. Tickle fight donated $25. Forgot to say happy father's month. Oh. in el salvador june is father's month celebrating men who raise children instead of digens and the mentally brian thank you for being the anti-degen podcast
I'm a bit undergeared. I think we missed it. Okay, that's cool. Hold on. Lori donated $25. Can't believe I was able to watch this live. Brian. You're also a G. And yes, it is 5 a.m. By the way, who sent that in? It was Tickle Fight. I appreciate Tickle Fight. Thank you, Laurie. Thank you, Strumpet. From my own cometh strength. From strength cometh will. From will cometh faith. From faith cometh honor. From honor cometh iron. This is the unbreakable litany, and may it forever be so.
Word. All right, cool, guys. We're going to wrap up the show there. We started the show a little bit late. One of our longer shows, probably the second longest show ever, I think. Our previous long show was the last one. I'm not going to try to make this a habit, boys, but it was an interesting panel. Anyways, guys, we're going to wrap up there. 07's in the chat. Am I forgetting anything, Nick, or are we good to go?
All right. Let me just I want to double check that I have the redirect going to Andrew. One moment. Okay. It should be redirected. All right, guys. Thank you once again to the wonderful panel. I know it's very late here. You guys are legends for being troopers and making it to the very end. I want to also just I want to thank Nick for also being a trooper. He went down to the mean streets.
of Santa Barbara to go grab someone off the street because we had the no shows he really hustled at it and actually shout out to Abigail she helped him and they really hustled they tried it's like graduation week people are gone people have other shit going on They were able to find the feral girl. So on one hand, thank you, Nick, but also not thank you, I guess. But no, it was good. It was good. So good job.
abigail and nick and then of course nick you know i was kind of i definitely scolded nick a little bit i was a little feisty i was so i just nick i'd like to take this chance to apologize to absolutely nobody i'm kidding nick i'm sorry i'm sorry nick i was i was in the wrong
It's hard without Madison. I get a little worked up when no-shows happen. Anyways, Nick's a fucking legend, boys. Be sure to subscribe to his OnlyFans. Just kidding. He doesn't have one of those. Be sure to subscribe to his Feet Finder. You know, he's trying to make some money on the side boys. So. Okay. All right. It's too late for jokes. All right, guys. Shout out to Nick. Shout out to Abigail. Shout out to Bad Baby. Shout out to.
Please don't relate me to that. Chelsea. Shout out to all y'all. He doesn't even remember our names. Shout out to all of y'all. He's been debating with us for six hours. All right, guys. 07's in the chat, guys. Go sub to Andrew Wilson. 07's in the chat. We'll see you on Tuesday. Good night, guys. Enjoy House of the Dragon. Peace and love.