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of the whatever channel. With that said, without further ado, we're going to have the guests introduce themselves. So please tell us your name, age, location, and occupation. Go ahead. Okay, my name is Kylie. I'm 18 years old. I'm from Arizona, and I do Findom and TikTok. And you said 19, right? 18. Oh, excuse me. And you do Findom.
Yes. Okay, what's that for the people who don't know? It stands for financial domination, and it is basically where guys get off to sending money to a girl with nothing in return. Okay, so what's... What are some examples though? Because you'll do specific things, right? So like what's an example? I've had guys that will pay to FaceTime me and they just want to be ignored. Like they just want to sit there on the call while I'm like doing my makeup or like talking to my friends.
And whenever they talk, I'll just be like, shut the fuck up. And then that's, like, they like it. Yeah. You ever give them, like, disappointed looks? Yeah. I'll just look at them like they're a piece of shit. Yo, Metro, thank you for the memberships. Okay. What's some other stuff? About Fendom? Yeah, that you might do. I have done two meetups. And they basically just paid to take me shopping. Yeah. In person. Okay. And I did stomp on one guy's balls before. That was fun. What?
Nice. Okay. How much did he pay for that? This was my first ever meetup, so it was only like three grand. Only three grand. Only three grand. Okay. So... How many different people have procured your services? Different kinds of people? No, how many people? I have no idea. Hundreds? Yeah. Hundreds? Thousands. Thousands? I have no idea. Okay. All right. And then what do you do on TikTok?
I go live on there and I have multiple accounts. One of them I'll just post my makeup or skincare and then I'll link the product in the video and I'll make commission off of everyone that buys it. Okay, well, we'll get into... Kylie, so that were clear, Kylie, I was just wondering, when you say thousands, you said that, are you talking about thousands for the Fendon service? Yes.
So thousands of men will pay you to do things like that to them? Yes. Okay. Wait, not the money. Well, maybe that's how much, but thousands of men have paid you for this. To kick them in the balls? No, no, just the fin dom. Oh, yes. Whether, like, they sent you 20 or they sent you thousands. Yes, yes. Thousands of men. Yes. Got it. What about you? My name is Penny.
I'm 18 years old, and I'm from Arizona. Okay. And I also do Fendom, too. Also do Fendom. Yes. Okay. How many clients, I suppose, have you had? I have. I just started to like 10, 20, but I've gained about 3,000 followers. Okay. Just on Twitter. On Twitter? Okay. Wait, so, and did Kylie here get you into it? Yes. Yeah, she intro'd you? Yes. She's the pro? Yes. Okay. What are some things that you've done?
when it comes to the finndom well me i haven't gone out and met any of them but oh yeah with her we did he took us shopping and i usually just do voice messages bullying them
Calling them worthless. They're like, send me money now. I'm getting my nails done. Or something. And do you, is this like a strictly... money sort of thing for you or do you actually like enjoy it too um doing it now i kind of it's funny to me it's okay it's funny okay and uh is it is it what gets you out of bed in the morning No. I just sit there. Just looking forward to stomping on the dude's balls.
Yeah. Okay. All right. We'll get into all that stuff. Sorry, did you say where you're from? I might have missed that. Yes, Arizona. Arizona. I got it. Okay. Also, just to make sure, you said your name is Penny? Yes. Okay. Like money, pennies? Yes. Okay. All right. And okay. What about you? Hi, guys. My name is Gia. I'm 21 years old. I was born and raised in California. and i do a live stream um i live yeah i basically i go live on this platform called chatterbait and i do of too so
Yeah, that's what I do. All right. What's the nature of the stuff you do on OF? Is it BG content? It's explicit content. So you shoot content with men? Yes. Okay, gotcha. How long have you been doing that for? About six to eight months. All right. Got it. School for any of you? Are you guys in school at all? School?
No, not me. CC, community college, anything like that? Yeah, I'm going to start college really soon. Okay. What do you want to study? Psychology. All right. Yeah. What about you? My name is Jaren. I'm from San Francisco, and I'm 24 years old. And I am a recent graduate. All right. Undergrad? Masters. Masters. Okay. What field? Customer experience. Was that the major? Yes. Customer experience? I've never heard that. It's like a mix of... Or like hospitality, kind of? No, it's like...
UX design, sales, marketing, like a whole bunch of entrepreneurship projects. It's like all in one. But that's what the major is called, customer... Experience. Experience. And you said that's what your master's is in. What was your undergrad in? My undergrad was in international business. Got it. Okay. What about you? My name is Alina.
I would like to refrain from my age. I'll get into that, but where are you from? I'm originally from Moldova, but I live in L.A. Okay. And occupation? Oh, model and actress. I'm an actress. Okay. And just so why do you not want to share age? I think it shouldn't matter what age I am because at the end of the day, it's like my choice. And doing modeling and acting, sometimes they get judged if you're older than the age you portray. So you usually have to say your age range.
So I can tell you my age range. What's your age range? 25 to 35. Okay. Well, so I have a... bit of a uh objection on this so you said that when it comes to acting and modeling you know you're gonna get judged for your age but i mean the most famous and highly paid models and actresses their exact birth dates are publicly out there. Because they're famous. But so, I'm a little confused here. So, you know, Victoria's Secret models, famous actresses.
we know their age, this doesn't prevent them from getting work. Because they're already famous, usually in the beginning, you want always to be portrayed a certain way. And I think it's still happening. But so if your actual age prevented you from getting work, why is it that the most highly paid women in the industry, everybody knows their age? Not all of them. I know there are some that will still have a younger age on their Wikipedia page than their real age. So not all of them. I mean...
And then also another point of confusion here. So I'm assuming these acting and casting gigs, they're going to get like a W-9, right? But that's after they hire you. It doesn't really matter because it goes straight to the payroll company. so they don't really check your age. Usually in the casting process, if they tell you, like, oh, I want this actress to look 25, and she looks 25, but she's 45, they'll be like...
You know, she's like, oh, she's too old because they know their age. IMDB lawsuit. Oh, and there is an IMDB lawsuit. for showing someone's age because they couldn't get castings anymore because of their age. Well, I mean, look, I'll tell you what I told you before the show. Yes. Obviously, we can't force you to reveal your age, but it does tend to turn the audience against you if you refuse such an arbitrary question.
I suppose, proceed at your own risk. So, still... I'm proceeding. Okay. All right. What about you? My name is Oksana. I'm from Sacramento, California. 46 years old and I am a matchmaker and what gets me off is seeing two people in a happy relationship. Wait, it gets you off? Well, we're talking about what gets them off, so here you go. Well, it doesn't get them off, it gets them money.
Well, for me, it is absolute happiness to see two people united together in absolute harmony and love and working together and creating ideal union. All right. How long have you been doing the matchmaking for? A little bit over 30 years. Okay. Got it. Very cool. All right. What about you? My name is Laura. I am 37 years old. I am also a professional matchmaker.
And I'm also a mother to two sets of twins and a wife. Okay, all right. What about you? Hi, my name is Saya. I'm from Kazakhstan. I live in L.A. I am engineer, QA engineer. Quality Assurance Engineer? Yeah. And you also what? I also do podcasts on YouTube. Okay. Age? 30. 30? Yep. 30. 3-0. 3-0. Okay. I'm sorry, too. What did you say the name was? Zaya. Zaya. With a Z? No, S. X. Zaya. Okay. All right. Cool.
Can you show me a photo idea later? All right, what about you? Hi, my name is Elnora, and I am 36 years old, but I'm looks like 29, I think, hopefully. And I am full-time YouTube, TikTok, and Instagram influencer blogger. And I have 400,000 subscribers overall. Okay, awesome. What kind of content do you do? So I interview people, most of them entrepreneurs, businessmen. It's more about immigrants who came here and started from zero. Okay.
My name is Brian Atlas. I'm 35 years old, over the hill, has-been YouTuber from Santa Barbara. Andrew Wilson, what about you, sir? Yeah, my name is Andrew Wilson, the host of The Crucible, 40 years old. I'm a political analyst, a political satirist. Occasionally I like to engage in debates and conversations. All right. Welcome, everybody. So we're going to go around the table once more. Gloctavius donated $200. My sprinkler goes like this.
comes back like this. Good. Gloctavius, thank you, man. Appreciate it. That was a good one. Thank you, man. Current relationship status. Are you single, talking stage, situationship, friends with benefits, relationship, married, polycule, sex, cult, harem, whatever it may be. If you're single, how long have you been single? And what's the longest relationship you've ever been in? Go ahead.
Currently in a talking stage. All right. How long has that been going on? Like a month. All right. Longest relationship? Longest relationship was like a year and a half. Okay. How long ago was that? How long ago did we break up? Sure, yeah. Like three months ago? Three months ago. Okay. 1.5 year relationship. You've been in a talking stage for a month and a half.
A month. A month. Okay. All right. Two-month little break there. All right. Who broke up with who in the relationship? I broke up with him. On who? Okay, all right. Sorry, go ahead. I broke up with him. Why? He cheated on me. All right, good times. Good times. And how did you meet the talking stage? He DM'd me on Instagram. Was he one of your Findom clients? No. Okay. No. All right. Famous guy?
He's like kind of as followers on TikTok. All right. And are you exclusive with him? No. So are there other guys in the picture? No, but... I don't really talk to guys that much. This is my only friend. I don't really leave. Wait, you're dating her? Yeah. Are you guys roommates? Housemates? Kind of. Kind of? Homeless together? Yeah. Okay. So from the point of the breakup...
Is this the only guy you've been involved with? I had one other boyfriend before him when I was like 16. Oh, I mean like after the breakup? Any like rebounds or anything? No, just him. Okay, just this new guy, the talking stage? Yes. Okay, orientation? Straight? Yes, straight. Okay, what about you? What was the questions?
Current relationship status? I was single. Single. How long have you been single for? Since May. May. So, got to do the math here. It's, what, four months, five months? Four months. Longest relationship? Nine months. Nine months. All right. And any guys in the picture currently? Yeah. How many? Just one. Just one? All right. How long have you been seeing this guy? We've known each other for a while, but we haven't started talking, talking to like...
A couple weeks ago. Until a couple weeks ago. Okay. You guys both live in the same city, or is this long distance? Yeah, same city. All right. And how did you guys meet? Friends of friends. Okay. Got it. What about you? Single. Oh, single for about like three months. Three months. All right. Longest relationship? Two years.
Was that the one that ended three months ago? No. All right. Your most recent relationship, how long was that one? A month. One month. No, it was actually a year. A year, actually, yeah. A year and a half, probably. Wow, the length of that relationship increased pretty dramatically from a month to a year and a half. I was remembering other talking stages, that's why. Yeah, so...
Single for three months. You do, do you do traditional adult content? Yeah. So like not just for, not just like OF content, but you'll do like. content for for like the major companies or whatever uh no no no not that not like okay all right um The men that you were in a relationship with, did you shoot content with them? No. No. Okay. Oh, yeah, and just orientation, orientation? Straight. Straight. Straight. Okay. What about you? My current status is single.
I've been single for seven years now, and my longest relationship was for a year, and I am straight. One year, you said? Yes. Okay. Been single for seven years, so since you're like... 18, basically. Yes. Okay. In that seven-year period, have you seen anybody in any capacity? Yes. A couple of talking stages, but nothing serious. What's the longest period during the seven years?
About a year. Oh, and that wasn't, when was that? That was last year. You were seeing somebody for a year, but you've been single for seven years? No, talking stage for a year. Were you guys monogamous? Yes, in the end, but in the beginning, no. How much of the year were you guys monogamous? Six months? Three months? Maybe nine months.
Wait, nine months of the relationship you were monogamous, excuse me. Yes. And when you say, was it on again, off again? It was... Long distance? No. It was the full year we were... Like exclusive for the nine months. And then before then, it was like open to dating other people. But still seeing each other. Yes. For the last three months. For the first three months. For the first three months.
And then who initiated the conversation about making things monogamous? Was it both of you? Was it you, him? Him. Him, okay. And during that conversation, did he say, Like the title or anything? Like boyfriend, girlfriend? No, he just wanted me and him to talk to just each other. How often would you guys hang out? At least twice to three times a week. And you've been single for seven months?
Or sorry, seven years. Yes. But as recently as a year ago, you were exclusive with Guy for nine months, and you hung out three to four times a week. Yes. So your boyfriend. No. I'm sorry, but. How is this not de facto your boyfriend? We didn't call it that, but... You were exclusive? You guys hung out frequently? Yes. I mean... What's that saying? Like a something by any other name is... I don't know how it goes. Yeah, like a situation ship. An exclusive situation ship. Yes.
That's a perfect situation. Well, you haven't been single for seven years. Technically, yes. Okay, hold on. So, okay. If a guy were to come up to you while you were in your monogamous phase with this guy, and he was like, hey, I'd like to take you out on a date. would you say that, yes, I'm single, I would like to go on a date with you? I would say, no, I'm talking to somebody right now. So you weren't single then? No. Okay. All right.
I'm trying to think here. And when did this seven-year relationship end? In the end of 2000s. I'm sorry, not one-year relationship. Yeah, that was the one-year relationship. Wait, the 2017 one or the one we just talked about? Now I'm confused. Wait, you've been single for how long again? Well, you said seven years. Well, I said seven years. So when did that one, the one-year thing, when did that end?
The recent one. Is that the recent one? The recent one. Which one are you talking about? I'm talking about. You're talking about the one-year one back in high school? Yes. I'm talking about the more recent one. The more recent one. How many recent ones have there been? Just that one. Just that one? Just that one. Any three, six, nine month ones in there? No. How recently was that one? It's been...
Yeah, it was a year ago. A year ago, okay. And have you been celibate for a year? No, it's been four and a half years now. Wait, hold on. You dated a guy for a year. But you didn't have carnal knowledge with him? We talked about it, but he was okay with it. Wait, you talked about having carnal knowledge? Sex? Yeah, but...
He didn't know at first. No, he didn't know what at first? About sex? He didn't know what that was? He missed out in health class? He didn't know I was abstinent, but I told him. Wait, how soon into the... Like really early. Oh, really early. It was really early, like maybe a month in. Oh, okay. And so you're waiting until marriage then, I'm assuming. Yes. Okay. Hasn't always been the case though. No. Okay. Got it. All right. What about you?
In a relationship. All right. Oh, wait. Okay. How long have you been together? Three years. We met in a dating app. Or at a date. In a dating app. In a dating app. Which one? The League. The League? I haven't heard of that one. Okay. It's for professional. Professional. People, I guess. Oh, okay. Like in the entertainment industry? No, no. The opposite, actually. Oh, okay. Like finance or... Finance. Like insurance and... Interesting. Yeah. And so, longest relationship? Three years.
So your current one? Yeah, it's my longest one. Right, three years, longest one. Okay, what about you? Married. What was the question? Married for eight years, been together for 10 years. This is the longest relationship. All right. Happily married. Happily married. Okay, cool. What about you? Also happily married. We've been together three and a half years. And longest relationship, six years. All right.
I'm single. Longest relationship, three years. I broke up last year, so one year I'm single. All right. Are you on any dating apps? Hinge. Hinge. But I haven't used it yet. I just have a profile there. All right. What about you? I've been married for five years and we broke up in 2021. So you're divorced? Divorced, yeah. Divorced. So for three years or so? Five years. Well, you were together for five years, right? Yeah, we were. You were married for how long? Five years. And then together?
Or you got married right away? And then together six years. Okay, got it. All right. And divorced about three years ago? About, yeah, three years ago. All right. And you're currently single? Right now, I'm single, yeah. Single, okay. Any guys in the picture? Are you dating someone? No. Talking to anybody? I save myself like I'm busy, too busy, but... Relationship status? No, I'm single, actually.
Like, you know, it seems like I'm busy saying myself, but I think if I meet someone and I feel him and like, you know. Connection? Maybe. Yeah. Maybe we'll start something. Are you currently talking to a guy? No. Hooking up with a guy? Yes. So hooking up means having sex, correct? Oh, hooking up? No, actually. What was the question? Hooking up. No, actually. But you said yes originally. Classify hooking up. So what do you mean by hooking up? I think I misunderstand you, actually.
Are you currently in communication with a man who you are romantically interested in? No. Oh, okay. So just misunderstanding, I guess. Okay. All right. Andrew, what about you? What about you, Andrew? Yeah, I'm aptly married, have been for well over a decade. All right. That's everybody's current relationship status. So let's see. I do want to get into the Findom stuff. That's interesting. Perhaps in just a moment. I think that...
One thing I wanted to talk about, and maybe if nobody knows about it, we won't talk about it. Anybody know what's going on with this Bachelorette thing? Does anybody watch that? No. Slightly. A couple episodes. I watched the Men Tell All thing. Anybody? Okay, then if not enough people on the panel know, then I won't get into it. This is totally not dating related, but humor me for like 30 seconds. I saw this really crazy thing that tripped me out, and the chat...
The viewers, you can try this too. Not dating related at all, but I want everybody at the table to try it. So can you circle one of your fingers? forward and one of your fingers backward at the same time. I tried, I didn't work. Probably not. I tried. Yeah. No, no, no. So it's like... Oh, yeah. Oh, no, I can't. No. Oh, wow. She's got it. Wait, hold on. I think she has it. There. No, no. So this is the same way? What the fuck are you guys doing? This is the same way?
Andrew, try it. It's actually really hard. Like, your brain can't do it. Except I can do it, because I figured it out. Your brain kind of stops. There, isn't it? Yeah. I can do it, too. Yeah. Andrew, do this. Try it. Andrew, do it. I did it. No, I think you're doing the same way. She's got it. She's a pro. Have you been practicing? No. She got that quick. So actually try it. By the way, guys, so it's not this. Oh wait, it's not, hold on, I can't even, it's not this, it's not this, it's this.
So like a circle? So one goes clockwise. I guess the other goes... So basically opposite directions. I don't know. I saw it. It took me like three hours to figure it out. Andrew, did you try it? Andrew? I couldn't do it, man. No way. It's hard. Anyway. Yeah, you'd have to practice it. Okay. Anyways, not at all dating related, but we should bring that up. So let's get into the Fyndom stuff quickly here.
What's the going rate, Kylie? What do you mean? What do you mean? So if... What's like a common request? What's the go-to like... In and out number one request. Maybe like pictures of me holding up the loser sign or like my middle finger. At most, I will send, like, a picture of my feet if they pay for my pedicure. And do you, would you ever date any of... No. Why? That's...
That's weird. A lot of these guys are also in relationships as they're sending me money. So I would not want to date them and then find out that they're sending other girls money. Wait, they tell you that they're in relationships? Why wouldn't they just have their girlfriends do it?
I don't know. Their girlfriend's probably normal and not mean to them, but they secretly want a girl that's mean to them, but they don't want to tell their girlfriend that. What percentage of men do you think are into the Findom stuff? Honestly, a lot. I've had some like...
really successful guys do this on the low. One of the first guys I met up with, he was a D1 college football player for Seattle. I had to sign an NDA, but he's like 6'4", he's built, he's attractive, he can get girls, but he's still... Wanted me to stomp on his balls, so. Stomp on. Yeah, that was the guy. D1, Seattle. What position did he play?
I didn't really care that much. You said he was 6'4"? Yes. Conventionally attractive. Wait, but so, I mean, isn't... Is that different than Fyndom, though? I mean, isn't that like, that's masochism, right? Like he paid you for it. But I thought Fyndom was like, it was, they're part of, because like a guy could pay you for some like kinky sexual favor.
But like Fyndom, the kink is specifically to do with the money. It's like, take my money. It's like, it's hard to kind of explain, but they want you to siphon off their money kind of. Yes. Yeah. So he had the Fyndom too, or he just wanted to be donned? He also, do you know what a sissy is? Kind of, but what, so explain that.
I don't know. I guess he gets off to wearing makeup and dressing in girly outfits. What? I also did that for him, but I couldn't post it because he didn't want his face shown. That's crazy. So he would dress in women's outfit? Yeah. What kind of women's outfits? There was this really tight dress.
It was like this pink tight dress that he wore. Damn. Is it just to be embarrassed? Like they got off on being embarrassed, right? Or like shamed? I honestly don't even understand what half of this stuff is. It's like I will never understand it. It's weird. So did you buy him the dress? No. He came packed. Fake Past Trees 21 donated $199.99. Andrew, we need you to help secure the future of the nation before any of these geniuses procreate in it. Priorities, brother.
FakeTrees21, thank you for that message, man. Yeah, appreciate the support to whatever. Very kind of you. Thank you for that. So he came packed with a pink dress. How much does a ball stepping cost? Well, like I said, it was the first meet. Oh, that was the first one. It was like three grand for me to do his makeup and stomp on his balls. And you've since upped your prices, I imagine. What's that now? I mean, the recent one we did. We? It was like a tag team? Yes, I invited her with me.
He spent three grand just at the mall taking and shopping, and then another two grand just in cash. For what, though? To take us shopping. That was it. Oh, like, okay, he spent three grand on, like, clothes or some shit. And then he just, here's 2K. For each of you or to get total? She just kind of tagged along with me. He got a whole new wardrobe because of it.
So, Kylie, let me ask you. Yeah. I just want to make sure. You said you have thousands of these guys. How long have you been doing this again? I started in like... March? Because you're only 18, right? That's what my notes say. I started in March of this year. You started in March of this year? Yeah. How is it possible that you have thousands of customers when you only started in March? I'm really good.
I am. I was, when Wishtender was the payment method that all of the fin doms use, there's like thousands of girls on there. I was top ten consistently every month. Wow. Interesting. So you're dealing with multiple... Well, you would be averaging eight clients a day, right? Yeah. Well, you wouldn't meet up with all of them, right? No, I've only met up with...
Three, actually. In person. Yes. So her clients are just, like, over the internet. Yeah. They're just sending you money, essentially. Yeah, I just wake up to, like, ten people sending me coffee. What did you do today? Any, like, your piece of shit today? Oh, yeah, that's, like, every morning. That's your go-to. She'll just hear me, like, voice messages. Now, are you personally responding to these men, or do you have somebody that assists you with that? No, it's all me. It's all you. Okay. Yes.
Huh. What's, uh, and do you have like sugar daddies too? No. Have you ever done... Sorry, go ahead. They're called PayPigs, so it's like the opposite of a sugar daddy. They don't get any sugar. They just send you money. Yeah. How it should be. Are most of these people from the United States, do you think? Yeah, mostly for me. Okay. So there's thousands of men with a fin dom king.
And they happen to, and you're dealing with like up to averaging maybe eight, nine, ten of these guys a day. Yes. And it's all for the purposes of femdom, not for anything else. Yes. Okay. So they're not DMing you and just being like, hey, what's up, here's a coffee, like your work. They're DMing you for an actual service of some kind. No, a lot of them just... get off to sending the money and leaving like they'll send money and never dm me or talk to me okay okay so
So they're supporters. So when we're asking this question, we're talking about the actual service itself, like the thing that you do, whether it's sending a message, then ignoring them, something like that. It's pretty common for creators to just have supporters send them things, right? Whether they're in your industry or another industry. So how many men would you say you actually render a service for?
Like you're speaking to them or you do something with them or to them or whatever. I mean, like five a day, I'll send like voice messages or like videos of what I'm doing. Gotcha. And have you done any escorting? Is it like having sex with them? Well, not necessarily them. No, but have you done escorting?
No. Okay. Have you gone on dates with guys and they pay you for the dates? No. I mean, like, I've gone on a date with a guy and he paid for the date, but he didn't pay me to go on the date with him. Okay, I see. All right. Now that's, by my math here, if you're averaging, what, five a day, it's 1,825 men per year. Does that sound about right? That you actually are speaking with or doing something with? Yeah.
Okay. And so what's the most that you've ever received from a guy? At once? Yeah, at once. I did a cash meet in LA. He gave me seven grand in cash and then bought me and my friend Prada bags.
Okay. How much are prod bags? I don't know. I got the bag and the wallet, so it was like $4,000. Okay. So like $11,000 total? Yes. Okay. And that's the most in one... time what's like the most because I'm sure there's guys who send you yeah what's the most total that you've received from one guy from one guy online was 10 grand it was a live stream
He just sent like 10 grand. Well, he started off with like hundreds and then he went to a thousand and then 2000. But was this over the course of like weeks? No, this was in like an hour. Oh, in one. Okay. What about like. But did he send you that much again, like a different day? No, he just, like, dropped that off, and then I never spoke to him again. Never spoke to him again. Okay. And that's the most total, though.
From one person, yeah. From one person. Even though it was just like the one day, it was the most total. Because there's maybe been guys that you've talked to that... They were sending you money for six months, but they'd send you like a hundred bucks a year. I honestly don't remember. Okay. And what do you think the total amount you've made from this is?
I made six figures my first three months doing it. So that's $100,000 all the way up to $999,000. Exactly $100,000 after my three-month mark. Okay. But you've been doing it for six months? Yeah, now. So you've made, you think it's about the same the most recent three months? Yes. So you've made about $200,000 in six months? Yes. About.
18 years old, six months, so you're looking at maybe $400,000 for the year maybe. Let's hope. Okay, fingers crossed. All right. So I'm kind of curious, though, how it actually looks. So I want you to pretend that Anissa back here is a pay pig, a simp. A thin, dumb client of yours. And I want you to talk to Anissa back here how you would talk to one of these guys. Go ahead.
Can I talk to you like that? I don't want to talk to her like that. Talk to me like that. No, okay, go ahead. All right, you can do it to me. Go ahead. Well, no, no, no. Hang on a second, Kylie. You can't actually do this to Brian. You may not know this, but the only way to make Brian suffer is if he has to hear you talk like that to another woman.
And since you're a femdom and you want to make him, you have the maximum amount of suffering, this is the way that you do that. That was beautiful. Sure. Okay. Good morning, loser. Send me my coffee, you dumb piece of shit. I'm waiting. Here you go, beautiful. Anissa's kind of liking it, I don't know.
She's going to be one of your clients now. She's going to hit you up. Does she get a discount? Is there a girl discount? A girl discount. Will you give Anissa a discount? I've had girls actually send me money too. Okay. It's weird. Do you think I could get girls to... No. There are guys that do this. They've been at the top of the leaderboards. You have to be very jacked. You have to be jacked? Yeah, look like an alpha male.
Damn, bro. Roasted. Okay. I can't do it, boys. You know what? Challenge accepted. If there's any women out there who want to be fin-domed, I will do it. I think I have the voice for it. I think I have the voice for it. I can explain you why women wouldn't do that. Tilt your mic down, please. Yeah. Tilt your mic down. Go ahead. Explain you why women wouldn't do it. So the type of guys that she's dealing with.
They are trying to avoid intimacy, being hurt really, really badly throughout their childhood. So for them, it is pushing the intimacy away. and trying to compensate it financially. And usually men who are higher level financially and were accomplished, they would be avoidant. Now with women... Why women wouldn't be paying for something like this? About 75% of women, they have anxious attachment. They need to be fulfilled and have feelings.
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Why the women don't do it. Could it also just be that it's kind of not really within the purview of their sort of natural role? I mean, I know this fit, like... It's not natural to this degree, but men are naturally providers. And the idea of a woman financially giving money to a man is kind of... disgusting to them but like for a guy there is some inclination to give women money from a provider
Well, there is a difference between being a provider and wanting to... I actually feel really, really sorry for these guys, the customers. I mean, it is very, very... deeply hurt man. Andrew, he is a provider. Is it something that he would be looking, something to be done like this to him? I mean, he's a provider for his family, but he has a connection with his wife. They have the bond. They are supporting each other. So, I mean, it is...
It has nothing to do with being a provider. Well, I mean, I'm not saying that men... Hold on. I mean, that's not really what I'm trying to say here. I'm just trying to say perhaps the reasons more common... One of the reasons it's more common among men, because I think men tend to lean towards an inclination towards providing. Sure. How many men, after they provided for her, still stick around?
None. They gave her money and disappeared. It has nothing to do with being a provider for her. I'm sure she has repeat clients. She said they're paying money and they're disappearing.
I think it's an addiction that these guys have as well. I think what you're saying is true, but it's an addiction. Obviously, in matchmaking, I... represent very very wealthy guys like top one percent like they come to us i work with the millionaire matchmaker so they're paying 50 000 to work to get like a serious relationship so some of them will actually say no because they're i mean they're not
like in the realm of doing this however I think it's like an addiction to spend money and feel like oh my god like I don't have this money anymore and it's like I think what Brian's saying about the providing it's sort of like let's put the guy in his place Men give money. So Laura, would you say then that Exona is incorrect about this, that there is a provider element and she's just kind of off base there?
I mean, I think it depends how you define provider. So I think she's defining provider in the sense of like... a husband providing for his wife like these aren't those guys but these guys do feel that like they need to give money to women and that's like
their only purpose. That's how they can feel useful. They get shamed doing it. And they definitely have low self-esteem and psychological issues. But I think it's just how you define provider. But what is a driven force for them to do something like this? I think these men are being taken advantage of.
That's what I see it as. Taking advantage of? Yeah. I think they're being taken advantage of. They don't feel like they were taken advantage of. They just don't know how... That's abuse. It is like they're pushing... I feel like these criticisms are not directed towards you, but you're saying that these men are being taken advantage of. Oh, yeah. 1,000%. Mental. It's not physical. Mental. The Findom thing.
Yeah. Do you guys have a response to this? I think there are grown men consenting to this and also submissive men just exist. Like it's... If a guy wants to be kicked in the balls or if he wants to be spat on or just talked downly. I think you're a grown man. A little bit. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
Because it's not socially normal, they have to come on the internet and find girls like me to do it to them, because they're too scared to tell their girlfriends that they're serious. I want to go home. Also, they like the damsel in distress effect, and younger girls, they're more attracted to give them money. It's like, oh, sh**. She's a damsel in distress. Like she needs the money. She's young. I don't know. All I post about is they like.
Like I've just sold screenshots of my bank account and they're like, get off to like, oh my God, you're so rich and you're 18. And like, I just brag about how much money I make to them, but they like it. They want videos of me just bragging that I'm richer than them. Interesting. By the way, if you feel like Kylie here resembles a previous panelist, your sister was on the show I think about seven, eight months ago. Does she do this too?
I think we talked about maybe on the show. Does she do the Fandom stuff? I put her on. She does do it, but for OnlyFans? It's managed for her, so she can just send pictures and videos, and they do all the work for her. This, I do it all myself. I text them all myself, and I don't think she's used to that, so she just doesn't go on it enough for it to work. You have to be consistent every day.
I see. And this is not part of the OnlyFans. I just don't know. It's not part of OnlyFans. Not at all. No, it's separate. Yeah, where do you guys get your clients? Like, what do you do? Twitter. Twitter! Wait, can you guys... Oh, my God. I kind of want to look... Can you guys write for me? How do you market that? They pay you on Venmo? I don't understand.
Third-party apps. You've probably never heard, but like Wishtender, Throne, yeah. For marketing? What's the one that you use specifically? Okay, so... You think it's taking advantage of them? Oh, yeah. I think it's like, yeah. Oh, can you just write both of your tweets? Tweets? Twitters. Twitter handles. Write your Twitter handles down. I just want to.
Take a look. See what I find. And then I guess you could, do you have a Twitter too? I don't use Twitter. You don't use Twitter. Okay. All right. So. Wait, actually, I think I do. I don't know. Wait. Really quick, just because it came to mind, Gia, you shoot scenes with men, correct? No. Oh, wait.
No, I didn't. We can replay the scene. I didn't say that. I never said that. Oh, I asked if you do BG content, boy-girl content. You don't do boy-girl solo content then? No, I do. Well... solo like well yeah by yourself well yeah well not content i just go live like i don't i have no content wait don't you do of yeah thank you but i haven't posted anything oh so you're yeah
You did say that you do live explicit content, right? Yeah. What does that mean? Like I go live in my bathing suit. But no, I asked if you do it with men. No. Dude. Am I getting gaslit here? No, I think she did say she does. No, we can go back. No, she did say she does. But maybe you misunderstood. I don't. I understand. I hear everything. Yeah, well, the question was boy-girl. I remember everything, too. The question was boy-girl content and the answer.
was yes boy girl content but maybe you misspoke do you do it with another male or do the males just watch you i don't do it with anyone i am independent like i do everything so this would be safe on twitch did you stream on twitch I have. But you said you do it on Chatterby? I do gaming. I game. Yeah. So it's nude. I do gaming. What? Is it nude? What's that? The word nude? No. Naked.
But it's on Chatterbait. Well, that doesn't sound that explicit then. So you don't do new content or you do? So why are you on Chatterbait then? Because you can basically stream whatever you'd like to. You don't sign a contract. You don't have to do explicit if you don't want to. I mean, that's certainly possible that you could. I sing, so that's what I do. On Chatterbase? Yeah. All right. Are you a soprano or alto or something else? I do acoustic singing.
Are you a soprano? I just started, so I'm not... So you don't sing? I do. I write music, too. I like two hit songs. You have original music? Yeah. Let's hear it. Go ahead, sing. Original? Yeah. Like, what do you mean? You said you sing. What does that mean? Let's hear some singing. Oh, yeah. I have, like, I have, you have my phone. My lyrics are on the phone, so. You haven't committed the lyrics to memory?
How about you just sing a song that you know? I need a guitar person to play guitar. I don't just sing. I get paid to sing. I don't sing for free. What? I feel like everyone's confused what's happening here. Yeah. Is it like you don't? It's punked. What? You sing? Yeah. that's in a bathing suit explicit bathing suit i over 20 have over 23k subscribers on chatterbait and i just blew up overnight so that's why like i yeah
All right. Okay, you don't have to sing. That's fine. So going back to the Findom stuff. What about you? You've said you've had like 20 Fiendom dudes or something. Yeah. What's the most you've been paid? About 500 at once. At once? And what's the most total from one guy? A couple thousand in total. I should probably take that pen top back. I don't know why that wasn't collected. Do you want me to slide it over too? That works. Okay.
How much total? About a couple thousand. Okay, and how much total have you made in total from all the guys? Probably like six or seven K. Okay. All right. Getting started? Yeah. All right. Let's see. And then let's do a bit of a role play here. So I'm the... The simp or whatever. Hello, heavenly blessed beauty. Fuck you, cunt. Send me money for coffee. Oh, my God. Decaf or what kind of coffee do you want? A cappuccino. Cappuccino? Quicker. Yes, my dear. Personally, I would not let that slide.
Hurry the fuck up. I don't hear the ding. I don't hear the ding on my phone. I'm curious how this goes. What's that? I don't hear the ding on my phone. Quicker. Damn, this feels like gross even to roleplay. No, yeah, I know. It's unbelievable that they love it. This is like what the ninth circle of hell is. Would be this. Would be a woman.
talking to you like that and you actually doing it. That would just be that nice circle of help. Wanting to do it is the thing. Wanting to do it. Do you ever have like a rough day? Like you ever go to sleep and you're like, fuck, I'm fucked up from doing this shit. No, I think it's funny. I genuinely laugh at it. What about you, Kylie? I love it. You love it. Who hurt you? Like, I know you get paid. Like, for example, with this podcast... Fake Plus Trees 21 donated $199.99.
Andrew, it's deadly serious. We need you focusing on more important things than the love lives of the kids who drowned in the shallow end of the gene pool. To it, Charlie, November means everything. Yeah, I don't think... I think I might be a little too base for old TPUSA. I think that they maybe wouldn't like too many of my takes, and maybe Charlie wouldn't like them too much. Just saying. He's kind of a bit of a feminist a little bit. Just saying. Also, we are doing very important work here.
At the whatever podcast. We are investigating. Whatever it is the fuck you guys are doing. We are investigating that. We are. This is the culture war. So. Yeah. Thoughts on that, Andrew? Yeah, well, I mean, I understand that there's a presidential debate on tonight, and many people want to watch that. That's totally okay.
Nobody here or whatever is telling you not to, but there's a lot of people who they don't give a shit about the debate and would much rather deal with the interpersonal dynamics of men and women, which is what we're exploring here. I think they just like to abuse someone. I mean, abuse man. And they monetized it, right?
So the question is, do you like to abuse men? Yes. And they just monetize it. And it is sad. It is sad what men are doing. It is sad what these girls are doing. Both are very, very young. And it's like, I mean... That's where the separation of the true relationship is happening, with us being isolated for so many years, and now it's like everybody is disconnected.
And what about you? Do you like when someone or man abused you guys? Mentally, physically? No, not at all. I didn't consent to it, so no. I think it shows the crisis of masculinity going on. Obviously, these guys are extremely beta. They have extremely... Beta fetishes and kinks. It's the crisis of masculinity right there. A real masculine man who is a provider for his wife isn't going to do this. No, not at all. Right.
Now, Laura, can I give you maybe a little pushback on that? Sure. Perhaps they are the most masculine men on planet Earth. They're just extremely mentally ill. I think you're just taking advantage of mentally ill. Exactly. That's exactly what's going on. But there's some girls that want to be choked in the bedroom. Can you straighten your mic a bit? Yes. They want to be like...
Wait. Yeah, you're good. Okay. They want to be like choked in the bedroom and have like really like they want to be abused. but they get off to that. That is a turn on for them. Yeah, maybe, but let's think about this a little bit. Inside of this industry that you're in, the Fendom industry, Would you say if the roles were reversed and there was a man who was doing the going to abuse women for money thing, do you think that there would be nearly as many females participating as are men?
No. I don't think so. No, you don't think so. Why do you think that is? Because women are emotional creatures. I think the question... Andrew, who's the question directed to? The question here would be directed at Penny. Why do you think that is, Penny? I just think women are more emotional and non-sexual. Well, they are sexual, but... I don't think it's more for men. Right, so it's a sexualized fetish, right, that seems to appeal to a certain demographic of men, correct? Mm-hmm.
Yeah, so if you were to have a methodology for the identification of mental illness, wouldn't that methodology include looking for anomalies in human behavior? That would be how you would identify if somebody is mentally ill or not, right? Yeah. And these are definitely anomalies, right? Yeah, they're definitely anomalies. So just saying, from my perspective, it just sounds like a bunch of mentally ill lunatics that are essentially being taken advantage of by predatory women.
Now, the reason I disagree with you on this, Laura, is because I think that what happens is you're able to sidestep the female responsibility portion of this by just saying, oh, the men want it, though, and they're just beta. No, I don't think so. I think that the women here are just as responsible as them because we're taking advantage of men. Well, I didn't say men want it and they're not responsible. I don't think it's a great thing to do. Obviously, it's never something I've done. So, no.
but I think that they're young. They don't really know what they're doing. And probably in 10 years, they might regret doing it. But the problem is if they don't do it, some other woman will. you know like it's an industry it's a kink it's a fetish it's like dominatrix it falls in that line of work so there'll always be someone and really unless we fix the crisis of masculinity It's not going to be fixed. And it is a mental illness, but you could argue that doing porn is a mental illness.
Being dominated is a mental illness. All these things are mental illnesses. I'm not sure that I would make the direct correlation this way with something like doing pornography, for instance.
In the case of somebody who actually wants to physically have a woman's foot stomp on their genitalia. Well, that's different. I'm talking about the guys just giving her like 10 bucks for coffee, you know, or a thousand bucks. Yeah, that's a different level of mentality. But they're not doing that, right? They're giving her... She has 1,825 paying clients per year who are actually soliciting a service from her. And that service is to be humiliated by her. Listen, I'm not condoning it.
Yeah, no, I'm not saying you're condoning it. I'm just saying the reason that I think that these men probably are mentally ill and they're just being taken advantage of is because that's such an anomaly from the male perspective. of behavior that I would have to categorize it in that other category of like, this is Fruit Loop shit, right?
This is ways it's so far outside of the ordinary for men to seek out social shaming by women. I don't know how else to categorize it except as bad mental illness. If she has thousands of clients, though, and she's only one woman, is it really? that far out of the realm or like have the men in america just totally lost it
Out of 180 million men, it's essentially a statistical anomaly. Yeah, but this is one girl. How big do you think your guy's industry is? I heard it's a large industry. Not really. Even if it was 50,000 men, that would be extraordinary. That's still too many. Well, I'm not saying it's not too many, but I'm just saying that it's such a small sample size.
Like, there's far more trans people out there than 50,000. I mean, far more. So, yeah, I would say that it's such a limited case of actual... Yeah, it's a niche, and I'm sure that there's some women who can do fairly well in the niche, but it's so outside of the...
purview for men to seek out social shaming by women, usually the opposite is what you see, right? They're afraid to engage with women because they seek not to be socially shamed by them. In this case, the fetishes that they do. So I don't know how else I would categorize that. They're also men, they're like CEOs and they have so much money sometimes because they're always so powerful. By the end of the day, they're so exhausted that they want someone to push them to the limit, maybe.
Yes, yes, yes. That's all I was going to say. Because there are a lot of CEOs that will be, like, strong and powerful at the job, but then when they come home, they're like a different being, and they just want to be used and abused and tell them they're worthless so they can go.
work and have more energy at work. Yes. It just sounds like some bizarre power fantasy. My guess is these are men who are mostly saving up their SSI paychecks and their social security disability in order to get the story.
Gratification, not high-powered CEOs with massive jobs that were raking in millions of dollars. What would even be the incentive for that, right? They could get... really, really high-class international prostitutes to come in and do this service for them, there would be no reason to go on some social service where they could even potentially expose themselves.
It seems like it's probably more likely if you're dealing with the numbers of anywhere from $50 to a few thousand dollars, even $10,000, that's not that much money to shave up over time. if you're on some sort of disability or mentally ill, that type of thing. But you mentioned prostitution. So do you think that it's not mentally ill and it's more fair if the guy is paying for a sexual service, then that's fine? Then he's not being taken advantage of?
Is that your view? No, I just think that he's... He's not being taken advantage of in the same exact way. So I would say he's doing something which I would have a moral problem with, but I'm not so sure it's outside the social purview of how... how enough men act that I would consider that to be a mental illness. I wouldn't say that it's such a rarity in the kind of psyche of the male that they could just go out and spend a couple hundred bucks for some pussy some night, right?
And that's it, right? I'm not sure that I would categorize that in the same type of category as I'm seeking out social shame from the opposite sex on purpose and paying for it. It seems like you're kind of... identifying an extreme and then comparing something which isn't so extreme against it. Fair. Yeah. Can you, Andrew, can you ask a question? I'm just dealing with a couple things here.
Yeah, yeah, sure, sure. So just to keep going here, so you, Penny, you've recently gotten involved in the kind of femdom industry, right? Yes. And how long have you been involved? She has since March. Like, I would say two months. About two months? Yeah. Okay. And is your career as exploded as hers? No, definitely not.
Definitely not. Okay. And so when Brian was asking you earlier about the kind of crazier things that you have done, was the craziest thing that you've done with the femdom thing, just the going and crushing this guy's balls with Kylie? Just like right into the mic if you can. Yeah. That was it. Okay, that was it. And so how many clients would you say monthly you have? 10 or 20.
10 or 20. Okay, so a significantly smaller size. Yes. And what are the general requests that they're asking you for? Just pictures of my feet or myself. Just normal pictures. Mostly. It doesn't... Okay, so those requests, though, don't sound like dominatrix requests, right? No. Well, no. They just want to see me happy and, like, with money.
Okay, so you're not, most of these people, you're not even talking bad to them? Well, no, I do talk bad, but I'm talking about requests from them, just pictures. Just pictures, that's it. If they're showing feet, like she's sending feet pictures, are they like foot fetish maybe more than fandom? Both. I think it's more that they imagine themselves bowing at our feet. They just like to look at our feet. That's what it is. Very weird. So are most of them into domination at the forefront of it?
Or do you think it's purely like financial? I mean, the best way I can describe it is just like a guy that gets off to a gold digger relationship. Like he just thinks it's hot that a girl is using him for his money and being mean to him. That's the main thing. Interesting. If you girls had sons, so imagine you were mothers and you had sons, would you want them to act that way?
I don't think I would know. But imagine you're a mom and you have a son. And I find out? Would you want your son to act this way in a relationship with the females? Well, no. No. No, no, no. What about you? If I had someone that, like, sent money to fin doms. Yeah, so you have an adult son who is trying to develop a relationship or whatever, and you found out that this is what he is doing. I would not like that. Why not? I think it's pathetic. Yeah.
Pathetic. I wouldn't raise any of my children to be that way. It's sad. How would you raise your son if you had a boy? Not to be that way. Because you're a woman, it's easier to relate to girls, right? If you had a daughter. But if you had a son, how would you raise him? I would do the nurturing side of it, more of the emotional side of it. Nurturing and emotional. So I have four sons. Yes.
Okay. I have four boys. And the most important thing I think that you can do for them is have a strong masculine father in the picture. There's been studies, statistical studies, that if it's just a mother raising them and nurturing, that does not make a masculine man. That actually makes a beta. Generally.
statistically i would do that side of it though i would obviously yeah you have to nurture we are the nurturing force but they need to see a father figure who is strong masculine just like a role model if they don't have that You know? Yeah, I know. There would be that in there. She was asking me how I would raise myself. Are you planning on telling your children that you did this? I'm not going to be doing it for that long. Are you going to keep it a secret?
No. Like in the future? No. Nothing I do would ever be a secret because it's not, in my opinion, bad. So do you think in 10 years when you're looking to get a husband and settle down and have kids that... your husband will accept you having done this in your past? Yes. You do? Yes. A person that I pick, yes. In the future. What kind of a husband would you be looking for? What are his requirements? Someone that accepts that in my past and that won't judge me for it. Yeah, but I mean...
In your ideal world, if I had a magic wand right now, how tall is he? How much does he make per year? Yeah. If I could deliver your dream husband to you. Tall. Funny. Really funny. Money doesn't... Are you going to contribute to the household? Yes. Really? Mm-hmm. So when you're pregnant and throwing up 20 times a day, I did it. Well, not that. You're going to work? Not that, no. No. Okay. So he has to have some money. Yes, yes. He has some money.
That's all I really look for, nonjudgmental, understanding, loyal. i mean you should think about it you girls are very young and that's less than one percent of men statistically what you described and most of them are not going to accept that you did this in the past you would have to keep it a secret from them for them to wipe you up, basically. I know in our industry, in matchmaking, if a guy finds out that any woman we present...
has done any realm of adult work, even OF, I don't even care, whatever, you're on Chatterbait, you know, in just a bikini, they don't care. They see OF, they see Chatterbait. I mean, it's my job to screen to make sure the girls don't do that. they don't want to meet her. They don't want to meet that girl for a potential long-term relationship. It is a number one disqualifier. Wait, so as a matchmaker, would you like...
take on the client and advise them to not reveal this? I wouldn't take them on. You want them to lie? No, I can't represent women that have a past of sex work. Because you can't stop them, right? We don't sell them. We get people in long-term relationships. Yeah, you are. You're in sales, right? The idea is you're selling.
or having a person sell the best of themselves, the best of their personality, their best foot forward, right? They are selling themselves. I'm not saying that they're selling their body like a prostitute. You're in the position of sales. You're saying, listen, I'm going to match you up.
with a girl who's right for you, right? Well, they want a woman of quality. And sell this when you do that successfully, right? Well, we ask what the deal breakers are, and the number one deal breaker is no OF, no past of any sex work at all. saying we're never gonna get married? I'm not saying you're never gonna get married at all, but you might not find the guy that you want.
You might have to, I'm just saying like the top 1% of clients that I deal with, like the over six feet, the good looking, has a private jet, wants a family. I think other women should empower women, not put them down. I'm not putting you down. I'm just telling you the facts. When these men hire us, when they hire a professional matchmaker, it's a very rare circumstance where someone is open to a girl that has done OF. It's happened. I maybe had one in 10 years that's like, no.
I'm okay with that. And look, I'm not shaming you at all. Get your bag. Honestly. I'm just telling you. This is what men want. Grid One Motorsports donated $200.01. Good to see you. Very delusional to think the girl picks her husband. Women hold the key to sex, but men hold the key to relationships. Unfortunately, he's... Not 100% right. That's 100% right. You don't get to choose. You can't choose. The man picks you. So don't argue with it.
How exactly would you say, Gia, that she was putting down women, though, by talking about... I was just saying, because she said that... a man would never wife up a girl that does of so that's like i said the top one i didn't say a man i said the top one percent of men you don't hear very well as you think okay I disagree. Whoa. Whoa. It has nothing to do with 1%. Trees 21 donated $199.99.
Not bashing you, Brian. Love your content. I share shorts with my friends all the time. I'm also terrified of a possible future where a social credit system won't allow you to create. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Thank you for the message. I'll get your other one that came through earlier, too, in a bit. Go ahead.
Yeah, so I disagree with the approach how we view individuals. I think every one of us is given certain experiences for the reason, and unfortunately sometimes those experiences are very... hurtful and painful. But we should not be blamed for the past as long as you make the peace with the damage that you have done to yourself, and there's going to be damage, like it or not. And as long as your partner is aware of what your past was, and you're able to heal each other, you know, most likely.
you will have a partner who is pretty damaged as well. But as long as you are healing each other and helping each other grow, I have seen people overcoming all kinds of different circumstances. So for me as a matchmaker, I do not judge anyone. I work with a client... who are coming to me just absolutely broken. Males, females. I actually don't have normal males or females. Everyone is broken. Everyone went through tragedies, traumas. My job is to help...
people grow, to help them to achieve the level of what they are designed, what they are supposed to be on this planet to do. And it is not destroying man. It is not destroying yourself. definitely you have a bigger purpose. And that goes for men or women. So, I mean, everyone has a chance for love. As long as you're willing.
to work through the trauma that you are creating for yourself right now. Because you are creating huge trauma. And it is definitely connected with the trauma that you experience as children. I don't know your past, and it's not the place to find out.
people who are in a stable sense of themselves who are loving and caring they wouldn't be doing and enjoying doing this type of and I'm not criticizing in any way so you may be working through some of the past or whatever that you have My advice to you is don't wait too long to get out from this home because it is going to be really, really, really bad eventually.
You're just going deeper and deeper and deeper. The longer you wait, the more you accumulate the hate towards money. You see so much dirt and brokenness and pain. that we are the product of what's happening around us. So we just consume all that. So what are you going to bring in a relationship as a wife in the future? So the more you push your heart and emotions away... less you will be able to bring something to your, you know, to your manhood. No, it's not. Have you ever...
had a client come to you and literally say, I want a girl in these industries. I don't know what type of clients you deal with. I don't know your price point. But for me, I am always encouraging my clients to be more open. And they're just like, no. So I am not saying at all that they can't find a husband in the future. They can, but it just, you know, may not be like...
It's not everyone. Not everyone is going to be forgiving of it. It's this generation only that this is happening to that's dealing with this type of these type of men. So, yeah. So most of my, if we're talking about males, right, so most of my clients, males, they come to me really avoidant of the intimacy because of certain traumas that had happened in their past, and that's what these girls are describing.
So my job is I'm helping them to overcome it. And I believe in potential of everyone. So you're more of a coach? I'm a coach. I'm a healer. I am a guide. I am love. And I am a motivator. I am everything that I can be to help people to achieve the highest level of who they possibly can be.
And I do believe in everyone. I fully support you. If there is a desire there for anyone to change, if desire is there, and pain is so excruciating that they cannot hold it anymore. They want to break and break free.
They want to make the changes. And usually people, that's only this is the lowest point when they are capable and have a desire to make changes. Yeah, but you didn't answer my question. Has a client ever come to you and said that he wants this? Like at the end of the day, we still have to cater to our client. needs. has the client come to me and say, actually, I didn't even know what is this OnlyFans. I didn't know what OnlyFans term is until this wonderful show. So I learned a new...
I didn't know what OnlyFans is. So my clients, they don't even use that. Or maybe I just didn't understand that. It's not just OnlyFans. Have they come to you and said, you know, it's okay if she's done. Any form of adult work. I have a guy that literally loves me exactly for who I am, and he knows everything that I do. Then marry him. Do it.
I'm not holding you back. Usually relationships, you get into a relationship when you guys have similar traumas. And you work through the relationship all your traumas. That's so true. Oh, what? What are you talking about in a relationship when you have similar traumas? What are you talking about? Why do you get into relationships based around trauma?
Sometimes you do. You get into relationships when you have to deal with some traumas. And I'm not saying marriages. I'm just saying you get into relationships. You meet everybody for a reason. Well, let's see if we can untangle a couple things here. Everyone's either a lesson or a blessing.
You didn't say sometimes people get into relationships based on similar traumas. You said people get into relationships based on similar traumas. So the thing is, I don't think that that's true. That just sounds like nonsense to me. Where did you get that idea? I said let it finish. What?
Yeah, so now I can finish. Let her cook, let her cook. So sometimes, okay, I'll reiterate. So sometimes you get into a relationship where you guys have similar traumas where you have to work for it. If it doesn't work, like somebody decides to work on it. and it goes up and somebody wants to stay the same, the relationship doesn't work. If they both start growing and they heal their traumas, then they stay together.
Can you help me out here? Can you explain the similar traumas that people experience that makes them want to get in a relationship together? Sometimes it's not by choice. Sometimes it's... It just happens. When you go on a date, you don't ask, like, what's your trauma? Let's figure it out. Can you give me an example of what these traumas would be that would draw people together? The more you trust them, the more you open up about your trauma.
You don't want to get into a relationship, but you still get into a relationship and you're both avoidant. To avoidant never can. You're supposed to confide in your husband and wives. You're supposed to confide in them. That's what you are meant to be. That's why you get married. avoidant of relationships get into relationships avoidant of intimacy tell everybody the whole world your business intimacy and connection
I think you want to say that everyone has trauma, right? Not everyone perfect. Nobody's perfect. That's not true. Nobody's perfect. Everyone has some type of traumas they need to deal with. You have to work through it. And once you get to the point where you...
work through it, then you are completely healed. And I believe that everybody can get to that point, too. Do you guys think you should try to heal your trauma before entering a relationship no you don't choose like when you can't ideally yes but there is naturally it's natural it's natural to heal yourselves like Everybody can do it. Ideally, yeah, you would want to heal yourself to bring to the point of balance, but I haven't seen too many people who actually do that, so it ends up...
Maybe it does exist rarely. But typically it would be the person who didn't have the trauma but they had stability and good household. But nobody's perfect though. That's one thing. That's what I agree with, yeah. Usually, yeah, avoidance, they cannot be. No, but what I meant is, like, sometimes you get into a relationship and you have a trauma from a past relationship. And if you find a better guy and he has other traumas, you guys heal. Like, I healed my relationship.
from my past relationship with this relationship. As an example, my past relationship was very abusive. Yeah, very abusive narcissist. And then I chose to go a different route. Of course he was. I chose to go a different route. Can I ask you, like, can I just ask you very briefly two quick questions? Yeah. Was this guy actually diagnosed as a narcissist or did you diagnose him as a narcissist?
Are you telling me I'm the narcissist here? No, no, no. The truth. The truth. Was he actually diagnosed clinically as a narcissist? Hang on. Let me finish the question. Was he actually diagnosed by a team of medical professionals? for narcissism or did you diagnose him as being a narcissist? I realized at the end of the relationship that he was a narcissist and there was no diagnosis.
Diagnosed. Diagnosed. Okay, so you diagnosed him as being a narcissist. Now, I just want to point out that narcissism is extraordinarily rare. It's an actual rare antisocial mental illness. It's not common at all. And yet, for some reason, every woman must be dating the same exact guy because all of them have dated narcissists, which is amazing to me that there's enough narcissists to go around considering how few of them there are. So I'm led to conclude.
either one of two things either a there are about four to five thousand narcissists who fuck every woman in the United States or The amount of women who believe that they have dated a narcissist based on their own self-diagnosis, which is garbage. You have no business diagnosing anybody with anything ever.
is overwhelming because you all think you're psychologists. So which one do you think it is? Like, which one do you think is more likely that just a few thousand men fuck every chick in the United States or maybe women overdiagnose how many men are narcissists? I think the word narcissism and like narcissist is such a...
buzzword on social media and i believe like it gained popularity probably five years ago with all these women saying my ex is a narcissist which really i feel like on social and tiktok and stuff that really is code word for selfish yeah it's slang for like selfish i mean
You're right. They shouldn't be saying that because NPD is a serious disorder. So absolutely. I think it's just become slang. It's a serious antisocial disorder, right? It's a significant problem if somebody actually... has it imagine being branded by a woman as having an antisocial disorder because she just doesn't fucking like you right no diagnosis There was no team of doctors that came in. There was no bill of medical professionals that spent months.
evaluating your social behaviors to make these determinations. Instead, your ex-girlfriend just decided to put out on social media one day, oh, by the way, he's a nurse assistant bastard, and you should have seen this there. He didn't pay for my dinner on Friday, and then he...
He told me I look fat in this dress. Son of a... Right? That's what happens. So that's why I asked this question. So can I ask you... Well, I didn't say anything about paying dinner. It's more deeper than that. So why don't we go into it? You said... He was abusive. How did he abuse you? He was screaming. He was throwing things at me. He was punching the wall next to me. Out of the blue, we were just sitting at the couch, and he was just screaming.
From the remote control. I can vouch. I met him. He is a real dick. And he's definitely. I would say abusive, but I'm not a psychologist. I'm not going to diagnose him. And for sure, I just think it's a buzzword, but he definitely sucked and he was toxic. At the very least. I witnessed it. I witnessed his shitty behavior. I shouldn't have said narcissist. I should have just said toxic. I think that's a better word to describe it.
So I don't, I'm not a doctor, so I can't say. Yes, we are trying our hardest here at the whatever podcast to stop the wild allegations of narcissism. Not every man you dated is a narcissist because he didn't kiss your ass, I promise you.
It's not the case. So I just wanted to point that out. I do feel bad for that remote control. I'm sorry that he beat up your remote control. That sounds terrible. I'm sorry that that happened to you. It would be very scary when people beat up the remote control in front of you. I understand that.
I mean, we can't make light of a woman that feels that she was emotionally abused. I mean, that's a little too far. I think we can make light of it. Why can't we make light of it? Especially when you're talking about... I never heard any fucking body ever talk about trauma.
Until I started going on these different shows with various women. And you know why they do it? Because it's a psychological term. They love psychology. I don't know why women are so drawn to psychology, like little machinations, manipulations. I think they think that it's going to help them manipulate.
their environment and people better. That's why they're drawn to psychology. So you're saying that all women manipulated, not me. Hang on, hang on. I'm going to explain. Let me explain the position. You sound angry at women. You're letting me explain the position, right? Very narcissistic of you. So anyway.
is just this that when you're talking about trauma how much trauma you have all my trauma what about my trauma just try to remember this that everything is fucking traumatic doesn't matter what it is walking out of the room could be traumatic everything is traumatic and what women often do is they take in the moment how i felt and then they externalize it on the person next to them as though that means it's true like so for instance a guy punches a wall so what
Right? But think about how it made me feel. Men are supposed to protect women, not make them feel scared. Think about how it made his poor hand feel. Well, clearly, he is not protecting me where he should have. That's basically a threat. That's like threatening. That's inciting fear in her. I mean, if you look up DV, domestic violence, like that's in there. Punching things. I mean, you can't just say that's not a big deal. Sorry. First is a wall and then it's going to be in my face.
I will leave before my face gets touched. Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean, but did your face get touched? No. Because I fucking left. Sorry for my fucking... Right, but what I'm saying is that oftentimes what happens is people will take... how they feel and map it on as though it's the reality of a situation. It's also possible that this guy punched a hole in his wall and would never have touched you for all I know, right? Do you punch holes in your wall with your wife there?
No, I don't. Okay, so that's not right. But if a dude, you know what I have done, though? Do you think men are supposed to protect women or not? One time I was playing Red Dead Redemption 2, and this fucker was spawn camping me, and he spawn camped me for hours. and I could not get out of this spot. I finally got so frustrated. I threw the controller down on the ground and my wife went, what's wrong? And I went, fuck!
Yeah, you're not arguing with her. That's separate of her. Would you do that in front of your child? You know what I mean? I think she's talking about in an argument, in a verbal yelling argument, he... Towards me, it wasn't towards... towards someone else like i can understand when somebody you weren't like throwing a controller in a video game this is this is directed at her in an argument feel
this way. It wasn't about feeling. What is actionable is different than how you feel. That's what I'm trying to say here. But it wasn't about feeling. It was an occurrence that happened all the time. He did it to scare her. Plain and simple. He did it to scare her. Absolutely. Yeah, what's the evidence that he did it to scare her other than she says so? Why else would a guy punch a wall in an argument if it's not normal behavior? Just saying. Like...
Is yelling in an argument normal behavior? Argument is a normal behavior, which is not a normal behavior when it becomes abusive to a point where you can't do anything and you have to run away from the apartment. It's called communicating. It's called debating. So there is a couple of things. So number one, if this guy is actually sick, like sick mentally, why did you choose him? Something inside of you helped you to, made you to choose this guy. If this guy is not mentally sick.
But he got fed up with all the arguments, with all of the negativity, with drama and everything. Then he lost his school. So it's one or the other. So it's either poor choices because... maybe he is sick, right? Or other is that the woman is capable to either build something beautiful out of man or destroy him. And it is woman's power.
And the way Andrew is, he's not attacking. This is masculine. This is masculine. The man who stands for, believes in the relationship, his great dad, his great husband. This is masculine. It's not an attack. Men are protectors. The thing is, is like... If you didn't become so enraged and emotional and you would just listen to what I'm saying, you'd understand the position, right? That's what she's saying here. And she's right. All I'm saying is that projecting how you feel in a moment.
in an exact moment, especially when you're heightened, your adrenaline's pumping, you're upset. You can have perceptions of a situation. When it's not clear that that actually was what the situation is, it just comes down to, but I felt like that. Did he do anything to you? No, but I felt like he might. Did he actually, I felt like he might have though.
So these things, right, they're really kind of up in the air and there for interpretation. And so before I'd be smirchman as being abusive or narcissistic or any of these things, I like to see something ever get past the... the allegation point into the proof point, and that's the point where I get very, very little, right?
And so I think that that's reasonable. I think it's logical. I think that people should engage in that more, but they don't. Instead, they just kind of map things onto how I felt in the moment, and then that makes how they felt. when it may not actually be true. All your thoughts are true. That's what I'm going to say. Can I ask you something? Hang on, hang on. Is that thought true?
Where do your thoughts come from? Where do they come from? Can you tell me where your thoughts come from? From your brain. But where? What part of your brain? I don't know the exact part, but they come from your brain. Where'd your brain come from? We just want to explain that it's first red flag. I don't understand. You think all thoughts are true? Yeah. Can you think a lie? What? Can you think a lie? What do you mean? Is it true that you can think up a lie? I don't lie. Is it true?
How would you feel if you didn't eat breakfast this morning? Why are we in a philosophical conversation now? It's so off topic. Anyway, whatever. I guess it's a side tangent. It doesn't really matter. Can I ask you something? Anyway, so... The point is, though, is all I'm saying is that mapping how you feel onto a thing doesn't make it true. That's all I'm saying. It doesn't mean that that was the truth of the situation. I'll disagree, but...
Well, you can't disagree with that, right? You can disagree that in that situation, I'm wrong, sure, but you can't disagree that just mapping a feeling onto a situation doesn't mean that the truth of the matter is... That is how the situation was. I am taking responsibility for my choices. It was actually a trauma that I had that I fixed it with a different boyfriend and went haywire.
Yeah, no, I understand. But let me try again. Let me try it this way. If my daughter comes out and she says, Dad, I feel like there's a monster under the bed. And I go in a room and I look under the bed and there's no fucking monster under the bed, right? It's the truth of the matter that there is actually a monster under the bed because she feels like there is one.
But if your daughter came to you and she's 16 and she said, hey, a guy hit the wall next to my face, would you not be upset about that? Hang on, answer the question, then ask a question. But this isn't imaginary. If my daughter looked under her bed, I went and looked under her bed. There's no monster there. I showed her there's no monster there.
How she feels... She's not talking about an imaginary circumstance. Is it possible for you to engage with the actual question and then ask yours? So, is how she feels the truth of the matter? Lying is the root of all trauma. Can you answer my question? Literally. Can you actually answer the question? Who are you talking to, Alina or me? Yeah, who are you talking to? I'm talking to, this would be Laura. So, Laura, the question is...
Would the truth of the matter be that there was a monster under the bed, even if she felt like there was one? No, there's no monster, but you're comparing this to actual domestic violence, which I don't really love. I'm sorry you feel that way. I don't feel that way. Look up the definition of domestic violence. The problem is, with the comparison of feeling to feeling, if we're judging whether the truth of the matter is the truth of the matter.
But this wasn't an imaginary boyfriend. Like an imaginary monster. You're comparing two things that are not the same. No, I'm comparing feelings. There's no feeling. It's not a feeling. It's not a feeling. I could say that's red. It is a feeling. I mean, I don't know what else to tell you. It's a feeling, right? If you punch a wall, you can't tell me that you can determine intent based off of somebody punching a wall. You can't determine that. You can only feel a certain way about it. That's it.
But if the person is punching the walls, and he would be punching the walls on the first date and the second date, and right from the start, if he was mentally... Just so you understand when you're talking about definitions... People can define a thing however they choose to define a thing, right? As long as it's coherent, makes sense, and it's indicative of the thing which it's pointing at, that's totally fine.
So, you know, as far as the definition goes, I don't see any actual problem. I see what you're saying. I just feel like you're excusing his behavior, which I don't love. I'm not excusing. I just feel like by arguing about it this much, you're excusing the behavior and saying it's okay, even though you wouldn't do it to your wife. It's phenomenal. Even though your daughter, if a guy did this to her, you wouldn't love it. So I just feel like you're excusing it.
Why are you lying and saying I said it was okay? When did I ever say that? You're not saying it's okay, but fighting about it this much, it just seems like you're excusing it. No, I literally never said anything was okay.
What I said was, I gave an argument for how you can map feelings on to a situational reality where the feelings don't mean that that is the truth of the matter. Instead of contending with what I said, you interjected your feelings and then made up... shit I didn't even say because of how my words made you fucking feel I agree I just think by making all these comparisons it seems like you're condoning it that's all
That's my opinion. That's an opinion. That's an accusation. It seems like you condone S.A. By the way that you talk, you condone S.A. That's crazy. Because I feel that way. I just feel like you're the type of person who condones S.A. I feel like a live broadcast is crazy. S.A.? Yeah. What's that say? Sexual assault. Do you not know what that is? Yeah, I just feel like that. I feel like you're the type of person who does it because I feel that way.
Who needs proof, right? We can just make whatever allegations we want just based on how we fucking feel, right? You know, in my opinion, behind every action, there is something deeper that actually motivates in that action. So I'll give you an example from my personal life, like an example between me and my husband. I call it pizza example. He got really, really mad because pizza was not done correctly. You know what was before that? I wanted to make pizza.
and laying the pepperoni in a certain way to make it really perfect. He wanted the pepperoni to be laid in one level. Right? So he got mad that I haven't done it. But what is not understood? I mean, you can interpret his reaction by that he is an asshole, that he got mad. But in reality, what happened, you got to look in the past. His mom was pushing the foot on him that he absolutely didn't like. It triggered a certain emotion. I had a critical parent.
who thinks were not good enough. So I tried to overcompensate where he felt like he was not hurt. So is it about pizza? It's not. Right. It's all of the stuff that is done to me. So this is a good example. You're saying... You're saying, okay, so now feelings are involved and other things are going on in the material world which are backed by the feelings that we can look at.
But it's up to interpretation here, right? There's a lot of interpretation which goes into the feeling. And so that's all I'm trying to say is that, you know, when you say things like... You're mitigating DV, right? Or you're trying to somehow make it seem like it's not as bad as it is.
Quite the opposite. What I'm doing is adhering to a standard for how we can even judge these things coherently without slander and accusation and innuendo and backbiting and front stabbing and all that shit. Rather, some type of... appeal to a standard which is unerring and doesn't change. Something that would be backed by evidence and not feelings. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I couldn't have said so smart as you are. You're using so many fancy words.
It's okay, we got the memo. All right, where were we? Next question. Moving on. Yeah, let's move on. Oh, yeah, Kylie, you did have something. Go ahead. Oh, I did. Is he still listening? Yeah, he's here. Go ahead. You're downplaying her abusive relationship because... He punches near her. He throws stuff near her, but doesn't actually hit her. So if a kid were to come to a school with a gun and someone saw it, but he doesn't, like, how do you know if he's going to shoot anyone? What?
Well, so I'll answer this question. He thought about it, so what makes you think that he's not going to do it? Okay, I'll answer the question as it's actually presented. If you're talking about this, you couldn't determine 100% what his motivations would be. You would have to err on the side of caution and the trends in the past, which if somebody brings this said object to school, usually the intention is nefarious.
Though it does not mean in this particular instance it was, we would assume that it was and we would act accordingly, especially since the school says that you can't have the gun there, et cetera, et cetera, for good reason. So you would base this along patterns, you'd base it along the law, you'd base it along the actual action, right? When you're talking about DV, it's going to be the exact same thing.
It's not just up to interpretations, up to action. So I can think of many situations where a man could get frustrated and throw something and meant no harm to anybody. Or punch a wall out of frustration and meant no harm to anybody. The interpretation which comes in, the feelings-based interpretation, you may not like that, but it's very difficult for us to always map on motive if we don't have better context than just one time he hit a wall next to me, right?
No, but she had mentioned that he was throwing things at her. So why would she not think that she could be next? Well, we're not very clear on the exact situation, are we, right? We don't know what the sequence of events was. Did he throw things at her before he punched the wall? She didn't say he threw things at her. She just said he threw things. But ultimately, just to kind of grant this.
Just to grant all of this, right, I'm just going to grant all of it, that he's thrown things at her. I'll even grant. Andrew, go ahead. Andrew, you go ahead. I was just saying, I can just grant all of this as being true. It doesn't matter. My statement that...
Your feelings are interpretive is not ever going to change. Your feelings are totally interpretive. And just because you feel like something is true, it doesn't make it true. It's interpretive. There's no changing that. But what I see women always do is say. How I feel is valid, and it's not open to interpretation. How I feel is true. And it's like, no, that's not the truth of the matter just because you feel that way. That's my point. I disagree.
fully disagree with that. How you feel is truth? Yeah. What your thoughts are all, like, they don't just come out of nowhere. Like, everything you think is actually, like, really happening. That's what's... I have to say about that. That goes back to what I said earlier, but it's fine. I don't know, if a guy had the intent of keeping or wanting his girlfriend to feel safe, why would he be aggressive around her and throw things at her or punch walls next to her?
Well, I'm not so sure that the intention in that particular case would be that he's trying to make her feel safe. I don't think that the entirety of a man's existence is tailored around making women feel fucking safe. I don't think that that's what they do 24 hours a day. is worry all day long about making you fucking feel safe. That's what you guys are supposed to do. I think that you feeling safe...
Right? And that itself is open to interpretation, right? Because, again, it's a feeling. You could feel unsafe in a situation that you're totally safe in. Right? But I asked Alina if the guy was acting like this. Real quick, can I get an answer to my question? Oh, it was a question. You could be in a situation, correct, where you feel totally unsafe, where the truth of the matter is that you're totally safe.
No. No? What? No, you could. So you couldn't be, for instance, getting prepped for like, I don't know, a medical procedure or something like this, and you could feel unsafe. Even though let's say it has a 100% success rate, you could feel unsafe. But the truth of the matter is you would be unsafe because you felt unsafe. You always have the risk. Okay, so...
So by that metric then, shouldn't everybody just always feel unsafe at all times because at all times a bad thing could happen? No. Okay, well then I don't understand how it could be possible. that you couldn't be in situations where you could just feel unsafe even though you weren't unsafe. I don't really understand that. I think sometimes the intuition plays a role. So if you feel unsafe, maybe something is wrong. I agree.
Yeah, maybe. Maybe is the key word here, right? Maybe is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Sure, maybe. But is it the case that it's always true that because you feel unsafe, you are unsafe? What's making you feel unsafe, though? I've had a bad fucking dream. You had a bad dream and you woke up and you're scared, right? Because in the dream there was a crazy chainsaw-wielding clown.
Let me finish. Let me finish and I'll let you respond, right? In your dream, a crazy chainsaw clown was chasing you down the street, right? And he woke up and he went, and you're feeling really unsafe. Were you actually unsafe? Were you actually unsafe? I feel like your example is a little off. Answer the question. Can I give an example? Answer the question. Answer. Please answer.
Were you actually unsafe? No. Because you feel... No. Okay, thank you. You're welcome. Appreciate it. Just tell him what he wants to hear. And now you can ask whatever you want. Now I'll tell you what I want to hear. I'll submit to you, master. No, I'm saying I'll actually answer your questions. I would just like if you actually answered mine. You're comparing with real...
person, man, and then unreal situation. It's really different. One's physical and one's physical. I think he's just saying what you feel. is a personal experience might not actually be a reality exactly yes yes how do i how do i send money down so that you can go get a drink after this on me because i don't know why you're the only human being on that panel who fucking understood a word i just said but you are. I appreciate that.
Andrew, question for you. If someday your daughter can come and say, like, I feel unsafe with my boyfriend, husband, whatever, because he punched the wall, what are you going to do? I would take all the facts into consideration, including how she felt about it, and I would give an interpretation.
I would give an interpretation based on all of the facts which were around me to the best of my possible ability. That's what I would do. But what I would not assume ever was that instantly based on a feeling that that was the truth.
of the matter so i would always subject everything to reason first if i could right now i'm not perfect i'm imperfect and i have feelings as well could be driven by feelings to do rational things I'm in no way the perfect form, as it were, just pure human logic walking around in a skin suit. But I still do think you should temper reason to feelings. That's all I was saying. So here I was making the same exact point that if you're so willing to just come out and say somebody else is a narcissist.
That's all interpretative of your feelings, how I felt. I feel like he was a narcissist, therefore he was a narcissist, right? Well, no. No, actually, that's not true. That's bullshit, right? That's just made up trite. And so that's what led into the idea of whether or not you could have feelings which don't map onto reality. Are women always wrong?
No. Are women never right? Women tend to jump to the conclusions. You're always wrong, but women know. Men are rational. They're able to understand and get the logic. Women, we make our decision. based on emotions. Yes. So that's the difference between men and women. If we would be able to see the situation, actually... Think like a man. That's one advice that I give to all you ladies here. So, like, I ask Alina... Don't be a man. Think like a man.
And then you'll find a husband. Well, think like a man, listen to a man. Talking a 21-year-old. Support a man, discuss things with a man, but absolutely respect a man, number one. They don't care about your emotions. They just care about what you look like. I'm just being completely honest. That is the manhood not looking for the family or intimacy or connection. They care about what you look like so they can use you temporary without any commitment. But men are designed by mothers.
nature as well to connect with the physical attributes. Men are predators. They will eat anything they see. That's just how they work. They don't care what it looks like. They'll eat anything. That's just how they work. It's nature. It's nature. It's natural. Wait, I'm super confused. Women do the exact same thing.
Right? So, especially in countries where there's very little food, women eat everything that's not nailed down. Women are also predatory. Women also hunt... We can control it. We can control it, though. We have more self-control than men. Women also hunt in packs. Women are also predatory. Women also eat meat. They eat all the same things that men eat. They do all those same types of things. What are you talking about? Scientifically, women are smarter than men.
Men are the apex predator. That's true. They're the apex predator. Men are. I agree with that. But to say that men are predatory and women are not predatory is insanity. You know, when we were going back, I'm trying to make my point. When I asked Alina, when she started dating this guy, was he punching the walls on right and left? She said no. So apparently his behavior had changed through the time.
they were dating. So then you got to get a little bit deeper and understand why his behavior had changed. Was it triggered? Maybe he was not hurt. Maybe he was not respected. Maybe he had to show that he is a freaking man by doing the stupid stuff like that. But if we, women, I don't know you, Alina, but I just... know from my experience that if women would show respect to men, if we would hear them...
If we would be able to validate them, show gratitude, their behavior is going to be completely different. They would not be punching the balls. I'm not talking about the crazy ones. Certainly there is crazy category. out there as well. Are you saying that it's okay for men to punch a wall in the presence of a woman or a child? Are you saying it is okay for women to disrespect men? What?
Answer my question. I asked you a question. Women are able to motivate inadequate actions in men by showing them disrespect. by not showing them gratitude, by not showing them validation that we actually validate and appreciate and recognize him. So we are able to trigger those type of reactions. And again, I'm not talking about psycho and crazy ones, okay? I'm talking about that you can get men completely messed up mentally.
men are capable of abusing women. That's what I think. Your opinion is all over the place. Mentally. I'm talking about mentally, not physically. Physically, men are stronger than women. But mentally, women are stronger. to cover up their feelings inside. They want the feelings, but it is hard for them to reach out for those feelings. If we would be able to inspire in men to... open up their feelings, then that's where they're actually fulfilling relationships would be happening.
But we are able to inspire absolutely the most amazing things in our men. We are. This is our power as a woman. But if we are punching them, things are not good enough. Do you think men are smarter than women? Is the 18-year-old smarter than the 19-year-old? Is the 16-year-old... I mean, you cannot generalize. Is the Eastern Europeans smarter than Americans or Asians are smarter than... You cannot generalize.
It is not about smarter. Women typically have better intuition than men. Women and men actually would be looking for our advice. They would be looking for our advice. Men who are married and respect their wives, they come. It is not like, Andrew, do you come to your wife and discuss with her some things? Or you are like, this is my way and that's it.
It depends on the situation, but yeah, we have discussions. There you go. So even a guy is masculine and opinionated. That's confidants. That's confiding. He is talking to his wife. He is asking for her opinion. Because he respects her. That is confidence. That's called confidence. Confidence. What is confidence, Brian? To confide. I mean, to speak with.
Essentially. Discussion? To have a discussion, yeah. To have a discussion. Not just any discussion, like emotional and deep and, yeah. Discussion, okay. Discussion. Yeah, but they're a team. You see, they're a team. It is not about his wife is going against him or showing disrespect or whatever, but he's showing respect back to her as well. What are you referring to? But we women, we are able to inspire and motivate men to do either crazy stuff or great stuff. But it is our choice. What we want.
Who would want them to be? I think everyone's, like, I don't know. Also, it's not our job to work on their traumas. They have to want to work on their traumas. It is our job as partners to work together. We're each individual people. Yeah, if you are going separate...
Like, I'm working on my shit, you're working on your shit. Until you're married. You are considered as one when you get married. Yeah, you are. No, you start connecting right from the beginning. Why men should give you whatever you want without you giving him?
Nobody owes you anything unless you're married. That's what I think. Wait, hold on. Wait, wait, wait. Stop, stop, stop. Hold on, hold on. Nobody owes you anything until you're married is what you said? Yeah. Didn't earlier you say it's a man's job to protect a woman? Uh, well, no, it's a, that's a like fatherly thing to do. Like I think if a man's dating a woman.
Did you not say that it's a man's job to protect? So if you saw a child getting abused, would you not? Hold on. Intervene? Would you intervene or no? Would you support the man or no? I'll answer the question, but what does that have anything to do? With what I'm asking you. And talking about. You're telling me that I'm responsible for like. You said that in a relationship. Hold on. A couple things here. You got to let people finish their fucking sentences. And you can't interrupt them.
That was rude. No, it's rude for you to interrupt repeatedly. You did it to her. You've done it to multiple people here. Am I not allowed to speak? No, you are allowed to speak. But in order for us to hear you... we have to allow you to speak and listen to you. And then in exchange, you have to allow us to speak and listen to you. What's crazy? Asking you to be polite and interrupts people. I gave you a warning before politely.
And you continue doing it, and you're doing it to me now. Warning? Yes, I gave you warning. What did you warn me about? This girl's abusive in a relationship. Okay, I warned you. When Andrew was talking, you were interrupting me. Did I hit? Have I hit?
You think I'll hit somebody? You ask the most, like, unrelated, like, non-sequitur questions ever. You can't keep up. That's why. You can't keep up, like, mentally. When did I say you were physically abusive? I can keep up mentally. I know he's probably listening. everything that i'm saying but you are just like i have no idea what you're saying like i cannot physically like i'm losing brain cells listening to you i'm losing brain cells listening to you
Wait, no, you! No, you! No, you did that! Like, that's what you sound like. Okay. What is the effect this girl's doing on you? You're talking to Brian this way. So if you need me to actually articulate what you did before, Andrew was speaking. You've done it multiple times. You did it multiple times. You'll start talking while somebody else is talking. Andrew was talking. That's interrupting. And I told you to stop.
I think some of that, within reason, interjecting at certain key points in a conversation is fine, right? But I think there's a distinction between that and kind of incessant interrupting. The thing is, I'm not going to beat you up about it because I want to hear what you have to say. So let's have the convo. It's okay. Rewinding here, I believe the question was, so you said that something like...
You don't owe them anything until you're married, or I don't want to misquote you. What did you say? I forgot. That's exactly what was said. Okay. But earlier in the conversation, you said... that men should protect women in the context of like a romantic relationship? Did I? You didn't. I don't recall. Whether you recall or not is irrelevant. Do you agree with the statement? Your opinion is irrelevant. Do you agree that that is your position? What? Are you just intentionally being
I feel like you're trolling. I'm sorry. Your thoughts that you've been here are so disjointed. They're all over the place. You seem like you're just not here. You don't seem like you're physically here. Your consciousness isn't here. absolutely i'm here you meant mentally right i meant mentally though i mean you just say whatever it has nothing to even do with the topic like you're like seem like a little i don't know like do you want me to say should i say it
Delusional. Your opinion of me has absolutely no bearing. You are very young, and I just feel like you're trolling. That's your opinion. Okay. I don't need your opinion. I didn't ask. Did I ask for your opinion? No. Aren't you so glad I brought her? You said you wanted another girl. So I'll repeat myself one final time here. You said you don't really owe anybody anything until you're married. Was that your statement? What?
Bro, we cannot have... You obviously heard what I said. I didn't hear you. Can you repeat the question? I'm going to repeat it one last time. Can you speak up? Because I can't really hear you. I'm hard of hearing. I can't hear that well. Yeah, I see you smiling, so I know you're just fucking trolling.
Look, we're trying to... I know sometimes we can joke around and stuff, but I'm really not going to tolerate the trolling, so it's got to stop. You understand? You're trolling. You started... You instigated this. Can you handle the heat or not? How did I start it? Or not. How did I start it? Answer the question. I did not fly in from Florida for this. I got to tell you that, honey. Who? Who are you again? I don't think I've ever heard of you or met you. You're irrelevant to me.
I still didn't fly in from Florida for this, to be troll. I really don't. Like, you are not here. Okay, Gia, Gia, answer the question I have. Yeah, repeat it forever again. Just repeat it one time, Gia. Be quiet and listen. Do you want me to answer seriously or not seriously? Is this a serious question or not? If it's not a serious question, then I don't answer. It's serious. Just listen to it. Serious question.
I don't take disrespect. That's fair. I'm going to repeat. Donated $200.01. Dollar Store Ariana, shut the fuck up. You are not just stupid. You are ignorant and a waste of a chair on the panel. No one will know your name. Has anyone else been compared to her? I don't think so. Okay, so listen, I'll repeat the question just so that you're totally clear.
Do you think that leprechauns do actually exist at the end of the rainbow? Like, I'm just wondering. What's a leprechaun? Do you think there is like a little pot of gold there that you can follow it to the end? What's a rainbow? Like a little leprechaun dancing. Yeah, do you think so? What? Do you think so? What's a leprechaun? Huh? Huh? What? What? What? Uh-oh. You guys are underestimating my intelligence.
Oh, no, no. I think that's what's going on here. I wildly overestimated it. But I was willing to indulge it. I can play the part if you really want me to. I'm sorry. I couldn't hear you. I'm hard of hearing. Couldn't hear you. Sorry. Guess we're on the same page here, brother. What's that? Well you guys hear something because I don't think I did I didn't hear anything We hear everything Is there a ghost in here? What was the question again?
Yeah, what was the question? Maybe we can answer it. Well, so I mean, I've been trying to engage in good faith here. So I think the questions I asked you are... Irrelevant. How are they irrelevant? Okay, just let them finish. Sorry, that was my fault. I'm so sorry. Can you forgive me for interrupting you? So look, you're going to need to check the fucking attitude. We can agree to have a good faith conversation moving forward. You did a bit of trolling. Congratulations. Was that a threat?
On live, too. That's crazy. How is that a threat? He punched the wall. He punched the wall, so you know it was a threat. How is that a threat? I'm telling you to cut it off. Just let him speak. I can cut something else off. Who's fucking back there talking? I can cut something else off. They need to knock it off. That sound like a threat on live TV. Sound like a threat. Or can I? I don't know. What did I say? Who said that? I didn't say anything. Is there a ghost in here?
I need water. Next question, please. Well, I'm trying to figure out exactly how I want to navigate this here. So I'm trying to reel things back and bring it back to a good faith conversation. You had your fun. You did the trolling. So are we going to have a good faith conversation or are you going to keep this up? Are you going to keep asking stupid questions? All right. You're kind of pushing it. I mean, I'm, again.
Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers. I don't know what else you want to hear. I'm trying to extend an olive branch here so we can move on with the conversation. It wasn't a stupid question. It was related to the conversation. You didn't hear what the question was. Just let him ask the question. I just said, I don't like repeating myself. I asked you to, like... You asked me to what? He's eating popcorn. I love it. Good job.
So professional. Shut up, dork. I'll eat popcorn if I want to. What a fucking dork. Stop being a dork and either engage in the conversation or get out of here.
one or the other i will gladly you like i didn't ask well then gladly get the up and get out of here why i'm so tired of tard wringling you it's a literally tard wringling at this point just get up and get the out you just can't handle the fact that i'm smarter than you and like you can't keep up with the conversation if you can't hold the conversation any longer what does that mean
What does that mean? I ended that. I literally... What did you want me to do? Take that? I wasn't going to take that, especially not on live. Nor behind the scenes either. I would never take that. Personally, I would not let that slide if I were anybody in this room. Anybody in this universe. Do the finger snap thing on the way out. Do that for us. Do the finger snap. Be like, uh-uh, I'm not going to take that.
I would be the one to walk out. I'm a strong woman. I'm smart at everybody. I'm so smart. Oh, I'm taking nothing from you. Oh, thanks. Do the whole thing. You think I'm smart? So you think I'm smart? Lean into the feminism. Lean into it. I got my popcorn here. I'm ready for the race. I would be throwing popcorn if this was a movie. This is why no one wants to be around this dumb beach, not even her parents.
Get the fuck out. Literally the dumbest person this panel has seen in a while. That's the only thing you guys can do is hate. Like, that's all. Hate from... Bro. Grid One Motorsports, thanks for the TTS. Astute observation. Can you say cash me outside? How about that? What? Can you say cash me outside? How about that? Sure. No, I'm not going to say that.
saying that. Will you guys pay me if I say that? No, fuck no. Oh, okay, then no, I'm not saying that. No. I don't work for free. I mean, aren't you here for free? I don't know, am I? I don't know, are you? I don't know. Am I? I don't know. Are you? I don't know. All right, so I'm going to ask you. Andrew, I'm going to ask the question one more time. Can I ask you one question before you ask me a question? Is it related to the...
It's related to what he was just talking about. No. So, okay. I'm going to ask you the question. Then no. Why would I answer yours if you won't answer mine? Because we're not going to have a meta conversation. I'm going to... Bring it back to the actual conversation at hand. Okay, so earlier in the conversation, you said something along the lines of men should protect women.
In the context of a romantic relationship, men should protect women, boyfriends should protect girlfriends, husbands should protect wives, or well, boyfriends should protect girlfriends, men should protect women in general when it comes to dating. But you said you're not owed anything in a relationship prior to marriage. Yeah. So how do you reconcile these two conflicting positions? What do you mean?
You want me to define reconcile? Yeah, please. See, I'm not perfect. Well, just for you, just so I have it perfectly, I will Google the exact definition of reconcile. So make consistent with another, especially by allowing, well, make consistent with another cause to coexist in harmony. Make compatible. And what was the other word that you added in that sentence before that? You want me to be defining? It was pedantry. He was using the word pedantry. Can you repeat the question? Sorry.
Oh, I'm actually being so... I'm not trying to, like, trigger you. Yeah, that's the third time. I'm sorry, that was a trigger. No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. You worded it. Your intellect, I honestly, like... Umchtum donated $200. There is a village missing there, Ridius. And we found her. Please, Brian, kick Pugsley Adams off the show. She offers nothing to any conversation. I'll ask you a simple question. What's 9 plus 10? 21. What's your body count? What? What's your body count?
Did you say 9 plus 10 is 21? What? Did you say 9 plus 10 is 21? No. Yeah, you did. You said 9 plus 10 is 21. I thought you just got done saying you're the smartest person here. Fucking tard wrangling. Tard wrangling up in here. This really scares me to have a daughter. I think I'm done. Four boys is fantastic. This is terrifying. Oh, you got four boys? Yeah, four boys. Thank you. Look at you.
I'm just kidding. I'm so sorry. I'm just kidding. I'm joking. That was a joke. Kumbaya. All right. So what do you want? while you are dating a man to protect you. It's not necessary, but I don't like to feel scared anywhere I go. So how would you then define whether or not he is a protector and provider if he does not show?
his qualities while you are dating. Would you be marrying blind without knowing whether he's a protector? Oh, no, I would never marry a man that would ever... So how would you find out if he's a protector and provider if he... Does not display that while you are dating. Wait, what? Can you? Sorry. I was talking over you, and I was speaking while you were speaking, so technically I couldn't. I understand you need attention. I understand that. Yes.
So while you are dating, you have to define whether or not this partner is right for you, right? But you are saying that men should not be protecting and providing you until marriage, correct? No, I think men should protect you. before marriage, but not provide for you. Okay, protect, protect. Okay, so then he is displaying his qualities as a protector while you are dating, but at the same time, you do not give him anything back.
You're holding... Well, he doesn't owe me anything either. I'm not asking for anything. Neither should he ask me for anything. But how he would be able to define whether or not you are good wife material. What makes a woman wife material? Someone who is supportive. Someone who, I already said before, the number of qualities. Someone who knows how to respect a man. Someone who knows how to worship a man. Someone who is not arguing with a man. Not competing with a man.
who shuts up, cleans. It is not about shutting up. No, it's not about shutting up. Oh. But a woman, I mean, it should be joy for the woman to actually. They like a woman, man like a girl that can eat. That's what they like. You know, if you want fulfilling relationship, do you want fulfilling and loving relationship? What do you mean? Like, do I... Do I want to get married one day? No, loving and fulfilling relationship. Do I want to feel love? Do you want fulfilling and loving marriage?
I can fulfill myself. I don't need a man. Let's just make that clear. The feminist statement of the night. I don't need a man. Why would you be even dating men if you don't need a man? Because I like having sex. That's why. But there are other things you can use for sex. I don't think so. You don't need a man. I use men for sex. But you don't want to open your heart one day. I'm just kidding. You guys really think I use men for sex? No. Oh my God. Like what? Come on.
I would never do that. That's crazy. In our conversation before, you said that you would not want to treat your man like a husband while you are dating. Oh yeah, no way. But at the same time, you want him to protect you while you're dating. No, I'm just kidding. Wait, what? What do you mean? Are you aware? This is getting crazy. No, I'm fully aware. No, she's doing it for attention. What? I'm sorry, I don't ask for attention. I just get it.
i just take it even if it's good or bad that's really sad i know i mean that's your opinion you're a hater i guess haters back off that's what women do yeah but we can't have a conversation because you just can't even Have a conversation. That's actually really sad. You literally were making comments earlier, like, putting down OF. Like, girls, like, that's actually a hater. You're not a girl's girl whatsoever. You're a woman hater. She betrayed the sisterhood. Betrayed the sisterhood.
I wasn't putting down anyone. I said get your bag. I just said you may not get the man you want while you're getting it, and that is fair. Personally, I would not let that slide. I take that as very disrespectful towards all the OF girls. None of the OF girls would like you. What was your intention to really say that? The thought is coming from her brain, so it's true. I mean, I guess, yeah, I know, she can't help it. It's like engraved in her head that you women cannot be hot men exist.
I never said they suck. I would not say that. No, I know. But if you did, it would be true. I'm just hot and I exist. Like, I'm sorry you're mad that I'm hot and you're not. I'm just kidding. What's your name? Okay. Gia. Gia, I'm so bad with names, I apologize. Gia. And whether you take that offensively or not, that's your opinion. That really shows whether you think you're hot or not. You just took offense and that's your opinion. No, honestly, I don't get offended.
I made a joke. Do you guys not know who Miranda Sings is? Haters back off. Do you not know who that is? I'm sorry. That show is like seven years old. You're probably too old for that. You're in a completely different generation than me.
can't relate yes i am so you should listen to me you really can't how old are you 37 i'm 21 i know you're very young and i think you're doing this for attention i'm okay i feel bad for you and i did not fly here from florida to not have a conversation like you're you're ruining the panel that i'm getting more attention than you are no it's not about attention you're just
Am I in the spotlight? I'm sorry. That's what you sound like. Your hair literally matches your whole personality. I'm just kidding. Sorry. What's your intention? Well, you can't start insulting the panelists now, so... I'm so sorry. I think you're very... What is sorry?
With a W. She is. You are so beautiful. I don't understand why you're hating on me. Like, I think you're so pretty. She's not hating. It's her opinion. No, I just, I literally mentioned, the first thing I ever said was I said that I do OF. I said I do OF, and you said that no man would wife, I'm not wifey material. or whatever you said. You said I'm not wife material. Sorry.
It's not really about that. You're trolling this conversation. We can't even have a real conversation on this panel because you've been trolling it for, I don't even know, I don't have a watch, but probably about an hour. No, everyone's listening and everybody thinks you're ridiculous, honey. That's only you. No, it's not only you. me brian is it only me babe
I think it's just you, babe. Not just you. It's just me. No, not just you. Not just me. Okay, I was like, what? No, not just you. Good, good. Well, perhaps I can speed things along here a little bit. Please. I have a couple questions for you. So, and then we'll get back to some of the panelists here. So. What do you do for work? No, no, no, no, no. Hold on. Hold on. Okay, so. I'm a singer. Okay. What are you?
Hey, Gia. Sing me a fucking song, Gio. Gio. Who's that? Sing me a fucking song, Gio. What's your name? Paul? Okay, so yeah. Hey, can you make it a love ballad? I would like those. Can you make it a love ballad? Andrew, let me have.
Ligma? Ligma. Ligma. Is that your name? Ligma balls, bitch. Ligma balls, bitch. I do. You're going to do a fucking 12-year-old meme, really? Ligma. Catch me outside. How about that? Catch me outside. How about that? Yeah, I was literally about to say that. You read my mind. I know. I know I did. But it's because you have no mind.
I'm sorry, is that why you're making fun of me and called me, addressed me? Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Is that why you addressed me as a man? Are you intimidated by me? I'm a little girl. I'm a girl. I'm a girl. I'm not a man. Go get me a cruise and send me a fucking shot. Okay? Sing me a song. Make the love valid. Yeah, there you go. He's a fan. He's a fan. We can start with that. We can start with that. Sorry, guys. Okay. Let's get back on track here. All right. Let's get back on track.
Andrew, just let me ask the questions, and I'll speed this along as quick as I can. So, Gia, what do you think of men? Wait, what? I'm just kidding. I heard you. What's a man? Ontologically or metaphysically or which way are you asking what a man is so that I'm clear? What makes a man a man? I know, but what makes a man a man? I mean, this definitely meets the threshold for...
like disruptive, sabotage, interruption. No, no, I think it's fair game. Do you mean ontologically? No, no, no, Andrew. I'm just uno-reversed you, and you're getting upset because I uno-reversed. Let me get through this. Okay, so... How is this your job if you get offended so quickly? How do you get offended? It's definitely reaching the threshold of the trolls.
Sorry you think I'm funny, and you're not. I'm just kidding. Sorry. Okay. You guys should, like, tape her mouth shut just for a little. Okay, so. I'll leave. I'll gladly leave. What do you think of men? What? What do you think of men? I just asked you to not ask me stupid questions. So if you're like not taking me seriously, what makes you think that I'm going to take you seriously? What's your name? All right. I don't know your name.
I'll see if I can get something else out of you. Who do you think is the primary victim of war, men or women? What? You going to answer a question? Who goes to war, men or women? Typically men. Who is the primary victim of war, men or women? Men. Are men or women physically stronger? Men. Can you be sexist towards men? No. Can you be sexist towards women? Yes. Why can't you be sexist towards men? Men are sexual predators and women are not. What does that have to do with sexism?
What? That's like two different questions. Boom. Mic drop. Sorry. I'm really smart. I'm actually really smart. Can you be racist towards white people? What? Can you be racist towards white people? Why don't you ask them that? Not me. Don't ask me. I'm not black. I'm not black. You can't ask me a question that you can only ask a black. I'm not black.
No, I'm not saying if you can be racist. Do I look black to you? You can't ask me that. I can't answer that. Can, not you. That's a setup. That's a setup. Can people in general be racist towards white people? You can answer that then. If you can be racist towards anybody. believe okay then answer he's asking you are you being racist right now no okay then you answer if you're not racist answer if you're not racist what's your name janna answer
You don't remember anything, so I'm not going to really say anything. I really don't want to know your name either. I'll take it back over here. Do you think that white people have culture? No. Do you believe in male privilege? Yes. Do you believe in toxic masculinity? No. Let's see. I'm just kidding. I'm white. I can season chicken, okay? What is a woman? Me. I'm a woman. I identify as a woman. Mr. Whatever your name is. Gio is a boy name, not a girl name. My name is Gia. Not Gio. Correction.
Come correct or not at all. Do you think men are important? I do. I do think men are important. Surreal, the only reason I think you're still there is because you're causing enough people to cringe hard enough. I love men. For the sole purpose of letting you know you're a dumb blank. Surreal, thank you for the 200. Why are you reading that out loud?
It's a TTS that didn't trigger, so I read it. That was not okay. That was a hate comment, and you just read that out loud. That was hate speech. You can go to jail for that. That's great. Cool. Do you think men are important? I can sue you if I really wanted to. Sounds good. I'll sue you in court. Don't fuck with me, ho. Sounds good. Do you think men are important?
I just answered that. Next question, please. The TTS came through. Next question. Do you think men are important? Next question. Do you think men are trash? I love men. Do we need men? I love dick in my mouth. I'm just kidding. Okay. Yeah. Sorry. Well... In my... Bleep. A-S-S. No, I'm just kidding. Okay. Am I? I don't know. Let's see and find out. No, I'm just kidding. Would you fuck me? I'm just kidding. Okay. Nope. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't think you're lying. All right.
alright so that was fun that was fun but you've been disruptive I love you You've been disruptive. Thanks for having me. You've got to leave. It's XGXX. Kindly get up. This is Sparta! What? Get up, get out. What'd you say? What did you just say to me? He said, get the fuck out of here, you dumb bitch. Get out. Who? That's what he said. Who are you asking? Who are you asking? You too, homie. Who are you speaking to? I'm speaking to you. What's my name?
Your permission to be here has been revoked. You need to leave. What's my name? I don't care. If you ask me nicely, I will get up. But if you ask me. Oh, I don't have to ask you nicely. Your permission. Your permission to be here has been revoked. It's just been revoked. It's just been revoked. Where's my shoes? Nobody's wearing shoes here, by the way, guys. That's just how weird it is. When you walk in, they ask you to take off your shoes and get naked. Fuck the whatever podcast. Ta-ta.
Ta-ta. Fuera. Gia out. Ta-ta. Yeah, Gia out. Nick. Well, moving forward. I'm afraid she's gonna steal her shit, guys. Our horses are in the front. I'm so sorry. I've been pleased about that. That's your friend? No. Oh, I thought y'all were friends. Andrew, are you enjoying the peace and silence? Oh, yeah. That was great. I love that kind of shit. We can carry the conversation.
Now it's you and all the girls. You don't have to share us with anyone. Come on. No, no. Are you kidding? I love it. When people do the low-tier trolling, that's my favorite kind. Like, I always enjoy it. Because there's no way for them to really win, right? All they can really do is just sit there and make Brian money, which is hilarious to me. It's like, it always backfires, but for some reason they do it anyway. But I just think it's hilarious.
I feel bad for... It's like I'm always trying to dig, can I help the person or not? This would be challenging. Very, very challenging. That's crazy. This is a habit. Hang on. Hang on. We got to hear this. Hang on. Just fucking leave, man. Don't make it a fucking big deal. Why'd you just call me? You need to fucking leave. Can you repeat that one more time before I... I am trespassing you. You can't be here. This is really weird. No, no, you two are good. You're good.
You two are perfectly fine. You've been great. You've been fantastic. No worries about you at all. Are you talking to us? No, not you. Talking to Kylie and Penny. No, you guys have been great. What did he say? She's a goofball. Oh, are you not streaming all this? The departure? Andrew, come on. You're the host. What am I supposed to do? What am I supposed to do? What am I supposed to do? What do you want me to do here? All you need to do is make Kylie, right? Kylie? To smile because she's...
People making comments on her beautiful smile. So she can carry the show. Is she out of the studio now? No. She does not want to leave. She's still here. She's a troller. That's just her. It's like she believes it, so it's not like English. Wait, she grows his friends? My sister was supposed to come, but she came at the last minute, so Ryan asked me to bring someone. We thought she was a character, but I didn't know she was here. So we just brought her.
She was just saying all that shit like I do explicit content and I don't like just making shit up, right? It's all over the place. This is her as a person. She's not trolling. She's always like this. Oh, that's her. She's always like this. What the hell is going on? What is going on with the emotes?
But Andrew, come on. Honestly, you enjoyed it, didn't you? Come on. She got you going. Me? Now there is such a boring time. Like everybody is in agreement with you. It was pretty funny, but. Yeah, I agree with that. but then you've dived her. I agree with you. Is she gone? Yeah. I think so, yeah. Round of applause, guys. is speechless, you see. Totally speechless. Don't know what to... Okay, so she's out of the studio now? Yes. Here's why I didn't just kind of keep the show going from this end.
Because I know the whatever audience pretty well, right? And they wanted to hear. Even if it was just ever so faintly, they still wanted to hear what was going on in the background. And I was not going to deprive the whatever audience of that. I wasn't going to do it. And so, yeah, I allowed them to hear because that's just the kind of guy I am. Just the kind of guy I am. But anyway, we can back the show. Back to the show. All right.
I'm sorry about that, guys, but, I mean, she refused to leave even back there. We had to essentially threaten that we were going to call the police. Well, that certainly meets the criteria for sabotage or trolling. So whatever legal options may be available to us, we'll see. So let's see here.
I can't believe that. I've got to go punch. By the way, we were recording all the bullshit that was going on back there. I should have turned the camera to be on this. Sorry, you guys missed it on stream. What's that? Whatever. Can you guys turn that light out there? Guys, we're going to post it to our Discord. Hold on. Thank you for kicking her off, long-time watcher, first-time donator. She is super toxic. Uh, yo, um, runt Brian Andrewfriend.
Thank you, man. Appreciate the TTS. So we were filming all the BTS. We'll post it to our Discord. It's discord.gg slash whatever. Nick, can you pull it up, please? It's going to be in the behind-the-scenes section here. We post a bunch of the BTS and stuff. So... We'll post all the kick-out and stuff on there. So, yeah, man. You can find it there, discord.gg slash whatever. Make sure you join the Discord. Can you guys... Can you guys...
Mod, spam it in the chat, please. I want to apologize to the rest of the panel here for the disruption there. It is what it is, probably. But she's gone now. Well, you can't say you didn't give her every opportunity, Brian. Oh, I should have kicked her away sooner.
No, no. I think that that was the right move to just kind of show and demonstrate that there was absolutely no way she was ever going to have a good faith conversation. He demonstrated it well. And I think that that was exactly what you should have done. Yeah, I mean, I wanted to at least try to bring her back from the troll. Say, okay, you had your fun. Let's go back to the conversation. But, yeah, it is what it is. Okay. So.
Anyways, like I said, we will post all that BTS stuff that we got of her. She called us the P word because we were recording her. So a little slander there. Throw in a little slander, too. Oh, and then when we were trying to get her out, she said that she started yelling in the hallways saying that we were kidnapping her. Oh, my. So this is the kind of women you're dealing with basically just falsely accusing.
Pretty typical of women like that. And after you took the time, I saw earlier, Brian was such a gentleman. He took the time to have his staff bring out a little cushion so that she could reach the microphone. Her little legs were kicking in the chair. She couldn't quite reach it. He put this little cushion down so that she could get high enough to speak. It was very gentleman-like behavior. And this is how you're repaid, Brian.
Anyways, back to the conversation. We now return to regularly... No donated $200. I just got done watching a presidential debate with a hysterical whiny lady. Return on the whatever podcast and a hysterical whiny lady is being kicked out. I can't escape them. Best comment. Yeah, it should have been Trump kicked out Kamala from the debate. Anyways, okay.
Yeah, guys, we'll go Twitch really quick. Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever. Drop a save follow in the Prime sub if you have one. Twitch.tv slash whatever. Grid One Motorsports donated $200.01. Here is another 200. Get a kick cam. This is Sparta. And your fans deserve to see all the action, especially with such an entitled whore beach. Yeah, the problem with our setup is at least we only have four cameras. I have an additional camera, but our...
Computer rig won't handle more than four. So I would basically just have to turn one of these cameras. I've done it before, but it... Kind of didn't occur to me. And actually she was, before the show, she was asking about like nip slip stuff. So like we were already kind of on high alert. So that's why I didn't turn the camera so you could see the BTS, because she was talking about nip-slip shit, and we just didn't want to...
Brian, I knew that she was trolling the second I asked her. I had a very serious question about leprechauns and pots of gold, and she wouldn't even answer. I knew right then, when you get asked the leprechaun question, if leprechauns... You know, if you see one, do they lead you to a pot of gold? And she didn't, you know, she really just didn't even engage. And it was a super serious question. But, yeah, I was so concerned about the potential nip slip. I was thinking about having her wear.
one of my Pantera... Hold on, let me move the mic out of the way. Either this Pantera shirt or this one... But then we decided that maybe it wasn't going to be a... Maybe it wasn't... Oh, you probably couldn't hear me while I was talking. Whatever. Okay, anyways. All right. Why don't we do this? Back to love. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hold on. I'm just making sure. Let's see. Let's do Stifler. Ask everyone to rate their looks, total face, body.
On a scale of 1 to 10, you can't pick 7, starting with you, Kylie. Go ahead. Okay, I'll give myself an 8 out of 10. Okay. 8. Infinity. Five. Can I have you tilt your mic down a little bit? Okay, go ahead. You, go ahead. Eight and a half, because there's always space for improvement. Okay. You'll never like my answer. The combination of the inside and outside, that's how I would go. Physically, I would say four. Inside, five. Okay. Well, I know we have to do it, but...
As long as my husband's happy, I'm happy, to be honest, and he is happy with my looks. He's the best, always bringing me up. And after four kids in... Like two and a half years. It does, you know, rock you a bit. But I would say like eight and a half if I have to. Sure. Okay. I'd go with ten. Ten. I think I'm doing my best and probably eat. Okay. So pull back up the thing, please.
Okay. So ask everyone to rate their looks total face body. I'm assuming you guys gave me your total count. So I'm curious. Let's do the breakdown face body going back around. So what do you rate your face? What do you rate your body? Go ahead. I would rate my face a nine. And my body a seven. Oh, it cannot choose seven. So six or eight? Yeah, I'll do eight. All right. What about you? For face, I say 8.5. And for body, five. There's no limit for both. Oh, my God. Okay. All right.
I say face five, body five. Okay. I'm always being judged when I go to castings and modeling, so do I have to judge myself again? Yes. It's always being judged. I'll do nine for face and eight for body. Oh, my God. So superficial. I know. Tell me about it. With the makeup on. This is six in the morning without makeup on. Four and a half. If we go over the face. Body. Eight. I'm working out. I'm playing pickleball. All the time.
Body, infinity, because it just birthed four beautiful humans, and honestly, that is a feat in itself. Face, eight and a half. I love my face, personally. Okay. I think Victoria's Secret models have a 10, so you really shouldn't rate yourself a 10 really ever unless that's what you do. I'd go face and body 10. I don't like to be counted, so I just want to feel myself 10 always.
So face 10, body 10. Yep. Okay. And total 10, I'm assuming. Okay. And then what about you? So I'm 36, but a lot of people, they said like, I'm looks like 28, 29. So I think I'm doing... My best, as I said. So face, I think nine. And body, eight, honestly. Okay. I give myself... Total, five. Face, 5.5. Body, 4.5. Got to lose some weight for sure. Rocking the dad bod. Andrew, what about you? Four. Okay. Face body? I don't think it's indistinguishable. I think that...
I think that you can have a really pretty face and still be a very unattractive person, depending on the body and vice versa. I think it's intertwined, and so I think that you would give a number to the overall appearance. versus giving it to these individualistic characters. I mean, what are you going to do next, right? Well, I think my nails are at 10. I think my ears are at 8. I think my nose is at 5.5, right? Like, you can kind of reduce this endlessly.
I think the point of the question is to kind of take all of those characteristics and combine them. So that we have a number of attractiveness, right? So that it's not just kind of endlessly reduced into these various criteria or we can never get anywhere, right? Oh, one quick question, and you can just do show of hands for the whole panel. Have you ever seen a beautiful woman with a mid-guy? Just show of hands. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I think that's the...
Entire panel here. Beautiful woman. They've all seen beautiful women. So you gave yourself a 10 over here. So do you think none of the women here rated themselves a 10? Do you think that you're the most beautiful woman here? No, I'm not comparing myself with them. I just... I just moved recently, like three months ago, and I gained weight and I got some pimples in my face because of that stress. So from that moment, I decided to...
believe that I'm beautiful, whatever condition I am in. So that's why I'm rating 10. I'm not comparing myself with them. But you said you got pimples and you gained weight. Yep. Uh-huh. And I judged myself first for that. So now I don't want to judge myself for... And were you... Are you less beautiful or more beautiful after... Or more attractive, rather. Are you less attractive or more attractive with the weight gain and the acne pimples?
I feel beautiful myself now. Well, that's not the question. So you could still be beautiful despite these things. But are you more... I'll just use the words. Are you more beautiful? Now that you have pimples and you've gained weight. Yes. Than you were before. I feel myself beautiful right now, so I'm not comparing. You're not even comparing yourself to yourself? Yeah, so without, I'm beautiful for myself. So wait, were you a 10 before the weight gain and the pimples?
So when first I gained weight and got this face issue, I judged myself a lot. So after judging, I made conclusion recently, like maybe two weeks ago, that I don't want to... Judge myself because how I look or if I gain weight. So that's why now I want to feel myself 10 every day. But were you a 10 before the weight gain and the acne?
When exactly? Well, okay. You said you moved here, what, three months ago, was it? Yep. You started getting acne. You gained some weight. But before you moved here, where did you move from? Kazakhstan? No, I moved from Chicago. Oh, Chicago. Okay. So when you were in Chicago... I didn't think about it. I didn't think about it. Okay, you didn't think about it then, but retrospectively looking back, what would you rate yourself? No, I was still judging myself that time. Okay, but so right now...
If you had to rate yourself five months ago, before the weight gain, before the pimples, what would you rate yourself? Were you a 10 then? No. What were you then? I was like phase six, maybe body. Eight. Phase six, body eight. So a couple questions here. Back then, phase six, body eight, now 10-10. So just so I understand correctly, you're more attractive now. After you've gained weight and you have acne. Yes. Do you want to, just curious, do you want to lose weight or gain more weight?
I'm right now on my nutrition, so I'm thinking about losing weight, but not because of weight. But I want to feel healthy myself. Like for health. For health, I want to... But do you see why I'm a bit confused here? Because you said, well, back then when I didn't have acne this bad, I didn't weigh this much. I was less attractive. But now that I've gained weight...
and I have acne, I'm now more attractive. Yes. This is how I think. Let me ask you a question. When it comes to what you find attractive in men, do you find men who are physically fit? and I'm not saying big bodybuilder roided up, just physically fit men, do you find them more attractive or do you find obese men more attractive?
It's how he feels, how confident he is. Let's assume they're of the same confidence. And they have all the same qualities, but one is physically fit. Who's physically fit is more attractive. But so... When men are physically fit, and let's just throw in have clear skin, good skin, whatever, they're more attractive? Yeah. Does this also apply to women? Or does it not apply to women? I look for confidence, so I don't look for looks. It's hard to answer this question.
This is how I counted myself. If I look at the person, I don't go and ask, how do you rate yourself? So I don't... If he is confident or he or she confident and he likes how he looks or she looks... I'm okay with that. I don't go there. I never thought about this so deeply. Do you think that gaining weight... And having bad skin tends to make people more attractive or less attractive? It's not about other person. I'm talking about myself, right? Yeah, I'm talking in general. In general...
In general, I don't know. Every person is personal. So I don't want to make a conclusion for other person. This is only how I treat myself and how I look for myself. So I don't... I don't want to answer this question. Well, you answered the question about men. You said you'd prefer the physically fit man to weigh less. Because you would find them more physically attractive if they were physically fit as opposed to overweight. And if they had clear skin as opposed to acne.
Again, how the other person feels. I see what you're trying to do. You said you don't know how the other person feels. Let me ask you a question then. Do you think men generally... Prefer women who are overweight or women who are physically fit? I haven't asked. I'm not a man. What? Sorry, you haven't what? I haven't asked. You haven't asked men. Yeah. Okay. Well, even if you haven't asked men this, what do you think?
You say to me, you are men. No, no, no. What do you... Okay, so you're 30, right? You're an intelligent woman. You said you're an engineer. You're an intelligent woman. You don't need to, for example, I don't need to necessarily ask like a sample size of people to have an inkling towards what the way something might be. So what do you think? men prefer, physically fit women or overweight women? I don't know. You have no idea. I have no idea. Just guess.
What are you trying to do with me? What do you want to hear? We're having a conversation. That's what I'm trying to do. I already said my point of view. That's how I treat myself. It doesn't affect other person. I'm asking you about men. I'm asking what you think men want. Okay, then do you think men prefer women with clear skin or who have severe acne? Again, I don't know. You should ask men this question. What do you think? I don't think.
about this question. I don't want to think about this question. If you were to ask me, for example, do I think women are attracted to men with confidence? This is a question I can answer. Do I think women like tall men? This is a question I can answer. Don't you think it's important to know what men like in order to be able to operate in life and find a partner? Or do you not concern yourself with this? I think I should like myself. Sure. But that doesn't really answer the question.
That's maybe what should I figure out with other men and ask him? So if I were to ask you... If you just had to guess, you can't even ask any men. Do men prefer women with a healthy body fat percentage or obese women? You wouldn't even be able to. take a crack at answering this question? I assume that men will prefer a healthy woman, whatever healthy for how she feels, like she feels healthy herself in her body. Well, I don't care how she feels.
I really don't care how she feels. So I want a man who cares about how I feel. You're just going round and round. A man can only care about how you feel once he's initially attracted to you and started dating you and then gets to know you and starts to care about you. Men are visual creatures. Sorry, continue, but I have some follow-up questions. Go ahead. No, I'm just saying men are very visual. I feel like with women, attraction can grow for a man.
But men are generally very visual. There has to be initial attraction for them to care. That's why men go on first dates. If they're not attracted, it doesn't matter how cool you are, they're probably not going to get to know you more and not see you again. Most men, not all of men, but that is my opinion.
So you just can't pretend attraction doesn't play a part, basically, is what I'm saying to her. She's saying, this is how I feel, that's fine, but unless a man is your boyfriend or your partner, he... Doesn't really care how you feel if he's a stranger. And to get to that place, he has to first initially be attracted to you. Do you want to get married? Yeah. Do you want to have kids? Yes, I want. Do you currently have any kids?
No, I don't. No kids. Okay. And so do you think that there are things that men need to do better when it comes to having a girlfriend or getting women? Attentive. He should be attentive, open, and honest. Okay. And do you think physical attraction is important when it comes to dating? For both men and women? Yeah, sure. I mean, whatever...
You know, when a person is healthy, like I'm more care about mental health. So if he's mentally healthy, I can go on a date and know him better and stuff like that. But I'm not putting how he looks, like if he has some body stuff. I'm more attracted how he can listen, how open he is. Do you think men care about physical appearance when it comes to women? I think so, yeah. Okay.
I'm just still confused by the whole... Well, okay. One quick thing. You said, well, you can be overweight but still be healthy. But isn't this just not the case? Healthy, I meant mentally, but if the person cares about himself and cares about his body, of course, it's plus, it should, like, I consider that. But right now, I gain weight, and right now I feel...
that I am working on my confidence, and this is what is important right now for me. So that's why I rated myself 10. Okay. Are you willing to date an average man? Yes.
Would you date a guy who's not a 10? Yes, if he is comfortable. I mean, as soon as we can talk and have... good conversation and we have same vision or stuff more that we can feel each other like we have some chemistry And if he's confident and he's funny and he doesn't look perfectly, but he can entertain me and make me fun and laugh, of course I will think about him as a husband material.
It's more about having connection, deep connection in conversations. So sometimes people look different, so I don't have specific... Like 10 body, like I only talk with that kind of person. Final question on this, and I'm going to kind of move it on a little bit. Do you think men prefer humble women or cocky women? I think the boss was humble. Humble women? Yeah. If you choose between them, I will choose humble. Are you humble?
I am humble. You said you were a 10. But it's me, like, saying. I don't want you to think as, like, as my humble answer. Let me ask you a question. If I said that I think I'm the most beautiful man in the world, would you agree with me? The most physically attractive man, would you agree with me? Okay, yeah, if you want to say that. No, no, no, no, no. Is it true?
Because I'm looking for the truth. Okay. Is it true? I'm not... You're not going to hurt my feelings. You can... But you're not feeling 10 already to begin with. no i'm not you don't feel 10 so i don't feel 10 from you but if i said i was a 10 that would make me a 10 right there you go you lost the opportunity Wouldn't it be more attractive, because all of you said, I mean, well, wouldn't it be more attractive that a guy, you know, operated within the realm of reality? He wasn't delusional.
He saw things for what they truly were. He was humble. Wouldn't this be more attractive than a guy that, I'm sure all of you at this table know a man. You can picture him in your mind's eye. You've met him, you've talked to him, who thinks he's the shit. Look, these girls know. He thinks he's the shit.
but he's not. He thinks he's fucking really good looking, but he's not. He thinks he's super fucking cool, but he's not. These girls know exactly what I'm talking about. They humbled that guy real quick. But so... Y'all have that experience of a guy like that, but... I don't know, a lot of y'all are, no offense, but... Now, I know you're not a natural beauty, but I think with the right clothes and the right look, you can be very striking.
That was Nick who pressed that, by the way. Don't y'all think it's a bit delusional? There was like three nines, one ten. Y'all are on par with the most beautiful women. In the world. Really? Yeah. I may think I'm beautiful. You don't have to think like that. Or either of us. It's my personal.
Opinion. But so, okay, you guys might feel uncomfortable that we're talking about this, and you might feel under attack that I'm bringing this up. But so one of the really big issues that I see in the dating marketplace... is that a lot of women conflate sexual interest from men as dating interest. And so what ends up happening is you'll get all these likes and DMs and think you have millions of options and the luxury to be picky.
And maybe you get hit up by a guy who's more attractive than you. And you think, well, hold on. This guy is this attractive. I have sexual access to him. Ergo, that is... like where I fall in the hierarchy in the dating marketplace. He's an eight, I'm an eight. He's a 10, I'm a 10. That's not the case though. So most of these guys, they just want you for sex. That's one thing. And so...
The other component here is that if you have an inaccurate self-assessment of your own physical attractiveness, you're going to be chasing men who are, no offense, quite frankly, out of your league. But here's the difference though. If I step to a girl who's out of my league, instant rejection. I don't get anything from her. I don't get a conversation. I don't get a date. I don't get sex.
You as women can get sex and dates and attention from men that are out of your league. And they'll string you along. They'll keep you around as friends with benefits for weeks, months, who knows. And I don't agree with this. Because me personally, my position is I think you shouldn't sleep with somebody unless you have an intention of being in a...
relationship with them. Me personally, I have no interest in one night stands or sleeping with a girl once or sleeping with a girl that I don't see a potential. for a long-term relationship. But a lot of men don't operate like that. And there's a lot of very attractive men who have the capacity and the capability of sleeping with a lot of women but have no interest in committing to them. A lot of men will operate this way.
I don't agree with it, but it's just the reality. And so women will find themselves in situationships, never getting commitment from men. And then the other kind of negative component I see here is that because of this, or because of... sort of inaccurate assessment of your own physical attractiveness. The men who are actually in your league, who would actually give you commitment, who will love you, who will take care of you, who will give you marriage, you think you're settling for them.
You think you're settling. You won't be attracted to them. You'll spend your 20s chasing after these hyper-attractive men, whether it's their status, their money, their looks, personality, what have you. And then finally, you'll most likely never get commitment from them. Then in your late 20s, 30s, time to, okay, I guess I got to settle.
And then you'll settle, even though it's not actually settling. It's actually a guy who's in your league. You'll probably treat him with contempt. The relationship will be terrible. You won't be attracted to him, even though you probably should, because he's actually in your league.
This is also harmed by the fact that women can elevate their appearance through plastic surgery and makeup, something that's not really readily available for men, although there are some ways that men can improve their physical appearance. So in addition to that, you will rank yourself like... Filter, makeup, boom, this is what I am. You don't always rank yourself, well, this is when I look without makeup and unflattering lighting, whatever, what have you. Pale and well met.
Lol Paladins donated $200.02. I'll say it bluntly if we won't. You aren't a ten. You aren't nines. Stop lying. It makes you look stupid. It makes you sound crazy. No one wants a relationship with a woman who lies or a defective mind. Law Paladins, thank you, man. Appreciate the TTS. I appreciate the TTS. Just to kind of wrap things up here on this.
I think there's a pretty big differential here too when it comes to dating. So I would argue for most men, if we can sleep with a girl, there's a very high likelihood we can get her in a relationship. If I sleep with a girl... I'm fairly confident I can get her in a relationship. I can't say the same when it comes to women. It's not always the case that, like, how confident are you that just because you can sleep with a guy...
You can get him in a relationship. Yeah, you're talking about box theory, which I completely agree with. When you first meet a man, usually they put you in one of three boxes. Wifey material, which we all want to be in that box, but that's very rare. Date material, like I'll date her.
Or I'm just going to hook up with her. And so women have a hard time differentiating that. And then, yes, they waste years in situationships. I completely agree with the first part of what you said. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you. It's up to women to discern what box you're in with that particular man. So that's...
really all we can do. I mean, honestly, at the end of the day, and women don't like it, but we don't, I mean, generally, men hold the power to be with us. Exactly what Brian is saying. Like, you're right. Women can have sex with who they want. Men get married when they want. So you've got to know where you fit in that box. And if your goal... is to be married and have kids like it was my goal and i'm at that goal then you gotta
not waste your time with the wrong guys who are going to waste your time in the wrong box for years and years and years. So you don't get to, you know, late 30s, early 40s, calling me, crying, I want to have a kid, I want to have a baby, find me a guy. That is literally the worst. place to be in and there's so many women in that place and it's honestly really really sad that was well put
That was well put. Thank you. But, I mean, look, not all women do this, of course, but I do think it's a recipe for disaster if we're gassing up women to have an unrealistic... self-assessment of where they stand in the dating marketplace for example let's say you're trying to sell your house and you think well my house is worth two million dollars well the market dictates what your house is worth so uh
If you're trying to sell your house for $2 million, but it's worth $1 million, it's going to sit on the market. And nobody's going to buy it. So... Absolutely. I deal with delusional women all day. All day. in my DMS. Like I probably got 50 DMS a day of women, you know, I joined your database. Can you please set me up? You know, what can I do? I'm like, there's no guarantee of being contacted. Like, please.
Please stop, you know? So absolutely. I don't know. It just seems like maybe we can go through it like really quick. Yeah. Well, for you, are you looking for... How tall do you want your guy to be? Taller than me. Okay, so how tall are you? 5'2". 5'2". Okay, so 5'3 and up is fine? Yeah. Okay. Do you know how much money you want him to make? More than me. How much do you make? 120. 120, okay. So 120K, make more than you. Any other characteristics that you need in the map? Fine.
Funny? Really? So if a guy's not funny, it's a deal breaker? Yeah, if he don't have fun, like... I think relationship is... I feel myself good, right? So other person should be happy with himself too. And we can together create something even more. So I consider myself funny. So I want to... interesting funny like open and When you say you think you're funny, do you mean you have a sense of humor or you're funny? Sense of humor. Sense of humor is, I think, the capacity to detect humor.
They're kind of different. Sense of humor would be like, I recognize something that's funny. But you might not be able to tell a joke or make somebody laugh for the... It's impossible. Other person should love to. It should be both ways funny. All right. Tell me a joke. I can't when you ask like that. I'm not a comedian, so... I just want other person and me feel... But you do consider yourself to be funny? Yes. And it's a deal breaker if the guy's not funny? Yes, it's important for me.
why do you all want us to be, why do you all want men to be your entertainment? Like, why is that so important? No, I get that women want it. And men who can make you laugh tend to outcompete those that don't. But why?
Why is that? It's so true and it's so annoying. Honestly, it's so annoying because I will set a woman up with a great guy. Honestly, I really stand behind my clients. I think they're great. Great on paper, right? They're great on paper. No, I get to know them and I don't take someone... on unless I feel they're a good person. I mean, I have to sleep at night. I'm saying they're great on paper, but they're not funny, for example.
Like, yeah, it's not even a funny thing. The woman will be like, well, I just didn't feel chemistry on the dates. I'm like, you can't give him a second date. You can't bring yourself to go to Nobu for a second date. Please, give him a second chance. This guy really likes you. He's marriage minded. There's not very many men these days that even want a serious relationship. I mean, we're in a crisis of that. And you can't bring yourself to give this 6'1", extremely wealthy guy who likes you.
is handsome another chance he has to just be hilarious and entertaining on the first date like I agree with you it's completely ridiculous and a lot of women they pass up all these guys over and over again and then they're like there's no good guys out there like there is you're just you're saying no to them And then also, couldn't it be the case with some of these men that...
You know, maybe they're nervous on the date, right? Absolutely. Yeah, it's a lot of pressure, a first date. I mean, honestly, I talk about this on my Instagram. I almost ruined my own life and didn't go on a second date with my husband. I swear, I almost did. And then I was like, what am I, what am I doing? Like, I absolutely need to give this another chance. And it's, it's what you're saying. Like, it was actually a great first date, but like, I.
I think I was used to like, as most women are used to like the butterflies and the chemistry, but that's actually toxic. That's actually your nervous system saying this guy isn't really good for you. And so I was like, you know, I'm going to give it a second chance. And he even said, he goes, I was nervous on our first date.
was and it's just too much pressure women put on a first date they want like an entertainer and the guy that's entertaining that's super funny that's the wrong guy that's a player that's that's that's generally that's the wrong guy to be with Okay. That was pretty based. Pretty based.
Do you encounter this a lot with your professional matchmaker? I mean, do you encounter this a lot with the women that, you know, you set them up with these men who are just great, great on paper, but they're like, I didn't. He was great, you know, great, great, nice guy, paid for the date, all that stuff. It went well, but I didn't really feel the click or the chemistry. Yeah, they're like, I didn't feel chemistry and I don't know. Yeah, but thanks for setting me up. And I'm like...
okay, I mean, I would urge you to give the guy another chance. Like I would at least go on three dates and see how you feel after that and then talk to me. And they're like, no. I mean, at that point, I can't help you when you call me in five years and you're 43 and single and want a kid. I can't help you. I hang the phone up. You did this to yourself, in my opinion.
Based. That's so based. We'll get into some more pre-show notes. I want to read a couple of the chats here. Anissa, I'm going to have you read these, okay? If you remove all of the preamble women prattle before the guests answer, you could cover the same ground in 90 minutes. Just answer the question. Anyone who thinks Brian is impatient is nuts. Am I patient?
Sometimes, but other times. I don't know. Giovanni, thank you for the message, man. Really appreciate it. And then we have women have hard time. Thank you. I know what box you are in. Andrew looks like a shark while Brian drops knowledge. Wait, what? I know what box you're in. Andrew looks like a shark.
While Brian drops knowledge. Okay. Women have hard time. Appreciate it. I think he's talking about box theory that I was saying, but I know what box I'm in. I'm, I'm a wife and I'm married to a six, seven amazing guy who, yeah, he's really tall. He's really handsome. He's a provider. I love him. He loves me. D1 babies, right? What? D1 babies. What are D1 babies? D1 athlete.
Yeah, no, I basically birthed a basketball team. It's all fun and games dating the 6'7 guy until you're pregnant with twins twice about to literally die and can't even walk. So it's all fun and games. Wait, you have two sets of twins. I have two sets of natural twins, yeah. And they're all boys. They're all boys a year and a half apart. Yeah. So just need one more. I have the starting line. There you go. There you go.
Yeah, you never know. They can be whatever they want. Okay, and then let's see. We had... Oh, really quick. So the box theory is there's the... Wife material and hookup material. Basically, essentially. Yeah, like, wife material. I think there's a girlfriend box where the guy's like, let me, like, be, like, let me kind of, like, waste her time. Yeah, for now, girl. Not the dream girl. And I don't even think, like...
The marriage box, not necessarily marriage, because I've watched the show before, and I'm with you, Brian. I don't necessarily think people need to get married. People can be together in a serious relationship and have a partnership. But basically, a girlfriend box of just kind of wasting a girl's time. And he's not serious about her. So it's not really about the marriage. And then hook up. Got it. Okay. All right. And then we have two soup chats. We have Richard Hunt.
I'm Runt, Brian Andrewfan. Good job, y'all. Hey, dude, thank you for the big $200 soup chat. Really appreciate it. Thank you, Richard. And then he also said, question for the panel. Would you date a 5'10 blue collar guy making 90K plus a year or a 6'4 guy making 60K a year? Okay, so 5'10. making 90k a year or six foot four making 60k a year go ahead kylie
I hate this question, but I would say the six foot four guy making 60K a year because he could always make more money, but you can't really just like grow taller. Yeah, I agree too. Wait, Kylie, do you have a clip in your hand? No. It's okay. You can just maybe stop. What about you? I'll date my boyfriend. All right, okay. I think for me, it's either or. It just depends for me. Well, hold on, hold on. You've got to pick. Five foot ten, I guess.
I'm already dating a 60th guy that makes more than 90k a year. So you'd pick that one? Yeah. Well, I am married. If you're single. I don't put the value on people based on their height. Or amount of money that they make. I always look at the potential of the person. Yeah, I mean, I guess you have to choose. But when I was dating, I did not discriminate about these things. Like, just go on the date, you know. I did end up with someone.
tall. Um, I'm five 10 and that just like, I just happened to, but I wasn't, that wasn't a deal breaker for me. I wasn't like the guy has to be super tall. So, I mean, honestly, 90K, 60K, it's not a massive difference. And I don't really think you should factor money into dating. I know a lot of women do. But you should focus more on connection and who the man is as a person. And can you grow with him?
If you're so concerned about money, focus on his earning potential because money comes and money goes. It's the reality. What about you? Yeah, also more about connections. So what if I should choose one? I don't want to choose any, sorry. Just pick. Just pick. Okay. They're both higher than me. I guess 6-4 will be too high. 5-10. Okay. I think I need to talk with them and then decide. But if not, I will pick six foot four because you can always grow together.
Definitely. All right, Richard. Thank you for the superchats, man. Appreciate it. I want to come back to this really quick. This is related. Going around the table. Do you think you will be better looking in 10 years' time, starting with you? Go ahead. Yes. All right. Better looking in 20 years' time? So you're 18, better looking at 28, yes? Yes. Better looking at 38? Okay. All right. What about you? Yes. You're 18, so better looking at 28, better looking at 38? Maybe. Yeah.
Better looking at 48? No. Okay. What about you? No. Not better looking in 10 years? Okay. You're 55. Yes. Yep. She's already looked so good, you guys. I look better now than when I was 20. You look better now than when you were 20. Yep. And then do you think you'll be better looking in 10 years' time? Yes. Whatever age you are. Yeah. You mysterious person, you. Yes. And will you be better looking in 20 years' time?
By then, yes, because there are so many things that are going to come up for sure. I'll be an alien. What about you? Better looking in 10 years' time? Yes. 20 years' time? Yes. 30 years' time? Yes. 46. So 56, 66, 76. I'm going to die really wise. Sure. Of course. Fulfilled and yes. But it's about looks. But 46, are you better now, excuse me, better looking now at 46 than you were at 18? Yes. Better looking now than at 28?
Yes. Better looking now at 46 than at 36. Yes, because my core got stronger and I got to... But it's about looks. Well, I don't value it. I don't even dispute as you get older, you can... Become more attractive personality wise or who you are as a person. Well, yeah, but attractive on that realm, but on the physical realm, which is what we're talking about. So physically gorgeous.
But ugly on the inside, how would you rate that person? Wait, so physically gorgeous? Physically gorgeous, but ugly. I would say that she's physically gorgeous, but she's a terrible person. Okay, but how overall would you rate that person? Overall. In totality. Yeah, you have to give her a score. You know what? I'll even grant to you that a woman who's average looking...
or even below average looking, but who has a remarkable personality, is in totality more attractive than a beautiful woman who's awful. There you go. That's my answer. Yes, but in totality. But when we're narrowing down, when we're getting into specificity, is that a word? Specifics. Specifics. Specificity is a word, yes. Thank you, Andrew. Appreciate it.
That's what I'm talking about. So I'm talking about beauty is the combination. Physical beauty. Yes, and physical beauty projects through the beauty on the inside of the person. Okay, I'll even grant that, for example, a man or a woman who is smiling and has a positive disposition, it will manifest itself. in appraisals of their physical attractiveness. I'll even grant that. But...
It's not enough to tip the scales, really. So the question is how I would feel, correct? How I would feel. Not the other people would feel, but how I would feel. About myself correct not how you would feel how you I hope you would think With reason and logic. Yeah. And I'm thinking that the person that I would be beautiful when I'm 60 and 70 and has nothing to do with the physical looks. Can I ask you a question? Sure. So we put you in a room.
with your, you said better looking in 10 years. Okay, we won't even use that. You're 46. We're going to put you in a room with your 26-year-old self, right? We'll put you in a room. With a 26-year-old self? You were cloned when you were 26 in a room. And there's men in there. There's 100 men in there, different background, different age. So all different ages. Which one of the two women is going to be able to out-compete the other when it comes to getting...
romantic interest from the men in the room. So the question is how I evaluate myself or how others evaluate me. I need you to answer the question. I need you to answer the question. How others would evaluate me? Definitely they would choose somebody who is younger. and definitely others. Because? Because? Because younger body. She's what? No, but because she's what? Hot. More physically... Attractive?
Oh. You see, my value system does not go with the looks. My value system goes with the combination who the person is on the inside as well. So were you a piece of shit when you were 26? I did not have the knowledge. Is that what men care about? I care about it? No, do you think men care about that? Do men care about it? No. Well, you said your knowledge.
I'm talking about who I am as a person on the inside, about my core. So you're saying you were just a terrible person at 26. I was going through very big transitions in my life. You were a man? No. You used to be a man? No, I went through very heavy trauma, big, big, big, big traumas. That's how I'm able to understand people. I went through like so many things. Well, that's fair. But was your trauma so severe?
that it was visible? If you were just walking to the grocery store when you were 26, was it palpable? Was it visible to someone who just walked by you? Were you crying your way to the grocery store? There were moments like this as well, yes, absolutely. Okay, but I assume you weren't crying 24-7.
Not 24-7. So assuming these 100 men in this room didn't actually have five minutes to interact with either of you, and they were making appraisals on your physical appearance, which of the two would out- The guys would choose younger and hotter physically-wise.
But this is not how I feel about myself. That's where my question is. Is it how others would judge me or how I judge myself? All right. Okay. Can we go around the table? I'll just move it on. Going around the table, better looking in 10 years' time. Can I ask her one question first? Sure, go ahead. I'm just lost because we work in matchmaking. So, I mean, maybe I...
I don't know. Our industry is pretty small. We generally do things the same. Usually you present a profile of a woman with photos and a bio. And if the man is not attracted, he's going to pass. I don't care if I say to him, oh, but she's a great person. She's done. a lot of growth. he doesn't care he's like cool i'm not attracted so like you you can say all this but like to put it in the shell to make the shell that's easy that's like what our makeup hair right clothes like nick posted this
statement there. That's easy. How can you transform the personality? You can't in one hour. So when you've presented a woman to one of your clients and he says, I'm not attracted. When you say she's a great person, has he ever changed his mind? I can make any woman look beautiful on the outside in a matter of hours. That is easy. Yeah, but you didn't answer me. Has he ever changed his mind when you said, but she's a great person and she's done a lot of growth?
I do not present my females based on just personality. It has to be a combination. Right, so if a guy passes on photos... Do you try to convince him and say, oh, she has a great personality. Has he ever changed his mind? That is a bonus. Has he ever changed his mind going on the date or not? She was actually great as a person? If he wasn't attracted, he said, I'm not attracted.
And you're like, well, she's grown a lot. She's a great personality. Has a client ever changed his mind? You cannot change man's mind. Men cannot visualize. They are making a decision on what is in front of them. But if I put the makeup on that girl, put the right clothes, it will be completely different. He's still not changing his mind. Make the girl hotter? You mean make the girl hotter than if you can change the mind?
If you put the makeup on the girl, if you style her hair, if you put the right clothes on her, she definitely will get a couple of points. Definitely. I get it, but think about what your argument is here, right? Your argument is literally her argument. You're saying...
So if you make the girl hotter, she's going to be more appealing, right? Yeah, but men, yes, they need to, they are making choice based on what is in front of them. Men cannot visualize what she can be if you put the makeup on her and style. They just don't give a shit, right? They don't care.
If they said no, they said no. What is the potential they're looking for? They're looking for the potential of good mother, right? Good homemaker, things like that. Here's the things they don't usually care about. They don't usually care about their career trajectory. They don't usually care about...
your girl hobbies they usually don't give a shit about any of that right they don't care about any of that they care about uh kind of some feminine qualities and then how hot you are so it's not it i mean it's not rocket science really for men they care about base the core the core that's what i'm talking about if the woman has a core core yes core on the inside is she gonna be like you just said initially he's gonna pass if he's not initially attracted so the argument to make someone
unattractive that's easy it's not easy if the guy pat look men have types okay i have clients they have all different types all right i have two clients right now their type is tall beautiful curvy blonde that's what they're attracted to
Like, don't present me anyone else that doesn't look like this, and then I'd love to know about her. Then I have another guy. He's into very slender, size 2, brunette, exotic-looking women. And what is your strategy you are using for those type of guys as a matchmaker?
I'm going to present them, the women that look like that, and then based on their personalities, who would be the best match. But ultimately, we can't change a man's type. And actually, I encourage you to be with a man whose type you are. It is the best case scenario for you. and just physical look.
Just physical look, what he's looking for. I give him a profile to read about her and tell him about her and I know her. I have clients who are plastic surgeons and those are the most freaking difficult ones. That they have to have a certain symmetrical face.
Right, so you know what I'm talking about. So you can't be like, I feel this way and I'm going to be more attractive in 20 years. That's not societally accurate. When we're talking about the type of relationship that I create as a matchmaker, I create fulfilling and loving relationship. I look at their end result. I understand you want to create that, but I think you're lying to yourself about the initial stages of our process, which is a man has to be initially attracted to give a fuck.
to do that one is easy that's not easy to create you're saying you can change her i can put makeup on her no that's easy but personality you cannot change that so i'm looking at the core of the person because i know the physical I can entice very easily, very easily. Even if he passes and says, no, initially, I'm not attracted to this woman. You think you can present him the same woman a month later with makeup and clothes? Absolutely, I've done this.
Try it. No. Try it. I'm not going to try it. Try it. It works. I'm good. I'm not going to try it. And man, they would not even imagine that this is the same person. Brian, what do you think? I'm like, this is the girl you said no.
If she presented you a woman and you passed, you're just like, no, I'm just not initially attracted. I'm sure she's a great person, but I'm not initially attracted. And then I created different pictures. I put the makeup on her. I put the right clothes on her. He hates makeup. I style her hair and so on. And I show him the same woman, different photos. He will not even know it is the same girl. But I am, but I am always honest with my clients. I say, okay.
But this girl, you actually initially passed on. This one, you said no to. Well, how substantial? I mean, look, a woman could... in terms of her presentation when it came to like how she her look or whatever she could change it and then the appraisal could change but it's not about to be charitable but then generally speaking yes I would agree here that
I mean, the initial appraisal is probably going to be consistent with any secondary appraisals. The core of the person, that's what matters. To change the outside, that's easy. That's why I asked you the question. She is gorgeous on the outside and ugly on the inside. Men do care about your core. Yeah, we care about it. But only when they're initially attracted and they get to know you. But what I'm saying, that initial attraction to entice it, enhance it in a woman is easy. Same with men.
You can enhance it, but you can't change a man's type. So in my opinion, if my client passes, I'm going to respect that. That's not his type. I'm not saying about changing the type. I'm going to move on. I'm going to show him someone else. I'm not saying about changing the type. All right. Well.
Anyways, maybe we can come back to it later. I'm happy to answer it. So, better looking in 10 years? Did we leave off with you? Yeah, we left off with me. No, I'd love to be, but no. And that's why, ladies, you have to marry.
An older husband with an age gap. There you go. Yeah, because then you're always the young hot one to him. How old's your husband? He's only eight years older than me. Oh, that's not. No, it's not crazy, but I do think you need some sort of a gap. You'd be surprised women say no.
to me all the time they won't even date someone 10 years older than them they're like i don't like that like if they're 40 they won't go out with a 50 year old and i'm like you've got to be kidding so i you need a gap like i'm not for women even dating younger men can do it you can have fun you can you can you know be that that girl but ultimately i mean i don't think it's good for your self-esteem like i know in my relationship i'm always like
the young, hot, pretty one. And that's how I feel. And I think you should marry older. Okay. So it's a form of manipulation? It's not a form of manipulation. It's just, I think it's a good dynamic to be with someone older because societally... You know, I'm 37. At 47, no, I'm not going to feel as good as I do now. It's just a reality. Well, that's not really what you said. You didn't say anything about how you feel. You said that...
It's according to your husband. Yeah, I said my relationship makes me feel pretty and the younger one because I am factually younger by eight years than my husband. Right, so it's a form of manipulation, right? No. Word. Word? Word? No. How is that a form of manipulation? Listen, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it. This is a patriarchal society. Women... We even said dating economics. Women go down as they age. Unfortunately, that is just...
the facts of life in this patriarchal society and men go up. Okay. So many even get better looking with age. So I think if you want to go against, if you want to have the best odds in your favor of your relationship lasting, you should have an older partner. Yeah, right. That's not manipulation. So here's the thing, though. Yeah, it is, and I'll explain why. Yeah, it is. Yeah, I was just, you remember the part where I said, I'll explain why, and then he cut me off? Go ahead.
Are you sure? Is that okay? So anyway, here's why. The reason is because you're basically doing an exchange, right? You're saying, okay, if a 20-year-old girl... goes after a man, let's say he's 30, 35, something like that. There's a 15-year age gap there. She is going after him for resources. He's going after her for beauty, right? That's essentially what's going on. That happens every day. I mean, sure.
Yeah, so the counter-argument against the age gap is that men like this are predatory because they're going after dumb young women who are just too stupid to make their choices because they're freshly 18, whatever the fuck that means. I never said a large age gap. I never said... My husband's 60 or dates someone much older. I said, an age gap.
Mine's eight years, so you're changing it into predatory 15-year gaps. That's not what I was talking about. Why would that be a problem, though, if there was a 15-year gap? I have a 15-year-old difference with my husband. Okay. I'm for it. I'm just saying that's not what I was talking about, though. So I wasn't. Yeah, and age gap's an age gap. You want to be, right? Like, at 8 years, 10 years, 15, who cares? I feel like 20 years is different than 8, 10. I mean, it's just different.
Yeah, I know it's different, but what's our distinction here? Are we going for the same thing? Basically, women get resources. Man get young hot chick, right? That's what we're going after. Would you agree that men are generally after younger women for a reason? Because younger women are more attractive in this society. It doesn't make it fair. It's just true. It's because of this society. It's because of fertility.
It's all societies. It's because younger women are fertile. If you believe that evolution is true, then why wouldn't they go for fertile women? And fertile women are not going to be old women. They're going to be young women. So, of course, they're going to be attracted to that. I'm not disputing any of that. What I'm saying though is that the argument against the age gap is that these older men are predatory.
I was giving you an opportunity to say, no, they're not predatory. I don't believe they're predatory. What's going on is that younger women know exactly what they're doing, going after them, because they have much more stability and resources, right? They're not just young. dumb, stupid women who don't know nothing and the evil predatory man is going after them. Absolutely. Most women want a date holder. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, so see, if you would have given me a chance to explain before you jump to your emotional conclusions like you always do, I was giving you a great layup, and you just fucked it up. Well, we agree. That's great. We came to an agreement, finally, in the show. It would have come to nothing but agreements, but, you know, you've got to let me talk, right? At least get the position out there. The floor is yours. So, anyway.
We were answering the question, though, right? If you'll be more attractive in 10 years. Yes. Do you want to continue? No, I said no. No way. I wish, but no. i don't want to be 47 it's super scary i was saying to her the other day i was like i'm so scared like bitch i don't want to age like this is just not like i mean yeah no it's bad especially when you become a mom it's extremely fulfilling it's it's lovely but you
change your whole identity your entire looks and identity change and I mean my iPhone just likes to haunt me it's just like it's just like my iPhone trolls me it's like this was you five years ago I'm like bitch don't show me that I was so beautiful I don't want to see that right now like Anyway, so with age, no, you're never going to look the same. Do you want to answer? 10 years? Yeah. I will rate myself 10, yeah. In 10 years? Yes. In 20 years? 10. 30? 10. 40?
10. 100. Interesting. Are you going to try to do Brian again? No. Do you want to go? I don't think I will look. For 10, I will be 46. I want to be realistic. Hopefully, I will feel better for 10 and physically and emotionally. But I... don't think so 56 same 66 i think i'll be just feel myself more confident 66, like 56, whatever. So you think you were more attractive when you were 26? When you were 26 than now? No. 26, I was...
I think I was like a girl who don't know what she wanted. Now I think I feel myself like really great. week 36. Yeah. The person who has a base inside, they will feel comfortable no matter which age. People who don't have the base, they will be scared of their looks and changes. Uh, so did we get an answer on the better looking in 10 years time? Yeah. So wait, it was, uh, I'm sorry. I was gone. I had to step away. So I apologize to the viewers. I do have to repeat. Um, you're 30, correct? You.
Yeah, I said 10. So will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 40? Yes. Will you be better looking in 20 years' time at 50? Yes. Will you be better looking in 30 years' time at 60? Yes. Will you be better looking... In 40 years' time at 70. Yes. 50 years' time at 80. Yes. Yo, Dern, thank you for the gifted 20 subs. Better looking in 60 years' time at 90. Until I die.
Would you be better looking if tomorrow a meteorite hit next to you and splashed you with hot lava and it melted half of your face and they reconstructed as best they could? But basically, one of the eyes was constantly popped out of its socket, and the entire cheek was melted off, and you could see your teeth right through it, and your tongue was hanging out of the side, and you always spoke slurred from then on forevermore. Would you be hotter then?
I think we have a different definition of beautiful. Yeah, I know. Would you be hotter then, though? Wait, wait, wait. Let's actually explore this. Wait, hold on. Answer Andrew's question, but then also define beautiful. So I'm popping out. Will you be more attractive? Is that your question, Andrew? Yeah, well, I mean, my question was, yeah, half your face is melted off, your tongue's sticking out of the side of your teeth, you just have a socket where your eye used to be. Are you hotter than...
I will feel horrible and I will not think about how beautiful I look like. I will have different thoughts if this really happens. But not in 97? Not at 97. In 97, you have Depends and like a little thing of milk next to you. You're going to feel really hot at 97 when someone comes in and is changing your Depends? You're going to feel super hot then? I will feel super hot myself. Yeah. Okay, and you're 30 now. Were you better looking 10 years ago when you were 20? Yeah.
I know you're kind of trolling or whatever. You just want to be kind of, what's the word for it, Andrew? Like contrarian? Yeah. Well, I mean, in this case... So your beauty standard is just based off of how you feel, right? Yes. Okay, so you wake up on a Tuesday, you feel like shit, you're what? What does your beauty, like on your worst day, the day that you feel the worst. What are you on that day? My worst day, I don't look how I look like. I more care about...
That days I feel more depressed. Private chat. Can you take over? I don't want to think about anything. Mostly I just lay down and try to... Yeah, but like hot-wise, what are you on your worst day? The day where you feel the worst about yourself, what are you then? I don't feel beautiful if I feel awful myself. Yeah, right. So what would you rate yourself then when you feel like that? Zero. What? Zero. You'd rate yourself a zero? Yes. So...
What we've established is that you have no standard for what is beautiful, right? All that your standard is is just internally how you feel and how you feel is supposed to reflect. So how does how you feel reflect the reality of what is true? For beauty, yeah. How? You should go inside me to feel it, just how I feel. Well, then let's test and see if this is true. Are there women on planet Earth who are prettier than you? Even one.
I don't compare myself with others. I already mentioned it. Oh, you don't have any beauty standard for women at all? No. Not for men either? Andrew, she actually does because earlier when I asked the question, have you ever seen a beautiful woman with a mid guy? She answered in the affirmative that yes, she has seen a beautiful woman with a mid guy.
Which means she can make determinations as to physical attractiveness. Yeah, value judgment. So apparently you can't judge whether or not a woman is attractive and if a man is less attractive than her. Otherwise, how could you ever see a woman who's more attractive than the man she's with unless you're judging that one is more attractive than the other? That's bizarre. Can you explain that to me? When you asked that question, I was thinking a lot.
I didn't raise my head right away, I was thinking. This is what conclusion I made recently about beauty. Again, I said I went through some... It was hard after moving, so I was judging myself because of my look, and it didn't help to me. So that's why I changed the strategy for myself.
I'm rating myself for 10. It's not personal to anyone. It's only my opinion. And this is how I think. And I see how you're trying to ask these questions. Okay. Well, let me ask you a different way then. Let me ask you a different question altogether. Do you know what a beauty pageant is? No. Where men determine how pretty a woman is? First time hearing this. Okay. So let's assume for a second.
that you were on a stage and there was 500 men and they had to rate your beauty against other beautiful women who were on the stage. Do you think that those men would all give you a 10? We should see. I don't think so. Okay, you don't think so. What do you think they'd give you? I don't know. If you had to guess. If I had to guess, five, six maybe. Why do you think they'd give you a five or a six? I just...
come up with middle, something middle. Because I'm sure that somebody will like it, somebody doesn't like it. So you think men consider your looks to be average? Yeah. Okay. I'm done with my inquiry there, Brian. Why the difference? Why the difference? What's what? Your own self. Are all the men wrong? Other people can think about me, about my look, whatever they want to think. Are they wrong, though? No, they're not wrong. Everybody have... Oh, no, sure, they can make...
Judgment. But collectively, you said they would rate you a five. Are they wrong? No, they're not wrong. So then you're a five. I just answered his question. I don't think I am five. I answered his question. The average from zero to ten, the middle will be five. Wait, can you rate me? Or did she rate me already?
No. What did she get? No. Oh, can you rate me? I won't be offended. Go ahead. I don't want to rate you. I only can rate myself. Go ahead. No. I mean, you don't have to. I would just be curious on that. You wanna give me a rating? No, I don't want to play this game with you. Okay. I mean, not really a game, but okay. And then going to you... Now, I know you're not a natural beauty, but I think with the right clothes and the right look, you can be very striking. Nick.
Okay. You're 36. Will you be better looking in 10 years' time? You mean 46? Well, you're 36. Will you be better looking in 10 years' time at 46? Not. I don't think so. Okay. And you're 36. Were you better looking at 26 than you are now? I think now I feel better and look. Better. Okay. And then 18 versus now at 36. 18. Better looking at 18. I think my body was... I was more fit. Okay. Yeah. Okay. All right. Hmm. Do we pull up the... I mean, not for her, but maybe...
We could pull up the Instagram. You're fine if we pull up your Instagram and you have some pictures from like seven years ago? I think from 2015, so it's not exactly 10 years. No, hold on. Are you fine with if we pull these up? Yeah, sure. You're fine with it? Okay. All right. So it's not exactly 10 years ago, but she's 30 now. So scroll down a little bit. How about the teddy bear photo? Click the teddy bear photo.
All right, that's November 29th, 2015, so nine years ago, right? Wait, would that be nine? About nine years ago. Yeah, it was when I first arrived to U.S. Okay, X, huh? No, it's okay. We'll come back to it. Which one? The wedding. The very bottom one? Wait, what? With flowers, wedding. I guess it's 10 years ago.
If you're wearing sunglasses, you're looking to the side. No, not flowers. In the middle. Oh, okay. Sure, I guess. The second one. The second one, I guess. No, no, no. The second one? Yeah. Eyes closed, side profile. Is the first one even you? Don't click it yet. Is that you? Yeah, it's me. Oh, okay. Click it. This is 2014. So this is 10 years ago.
Kazakhstan flag. Okay. It was my first time when I came to U.S. So this was you at 20? Yeah. Okay. All right. X, scroll up a bit. Let's see some more photos. All right. What about the one where she's in the black in the middle there? in the middle of the street, blocking traffic. Beautiful day one in New York. Okay, a little hard to tell. So pretty. Hard to make appraisals here, only eight years ago. She's hot. Yeah. So you're better looking now than you were...
There. Just want to get that from you. Okay, X out of it. What about the one just next to it to the left? Better looking now than there. Right now I feel myself beautiful. That time I didn't feel, unfortunately. Well, that concludes my inquiry as to this matter. Interesting how that works. All right, let's, you know what? Oh, we have to do a couple things here. So going to Kylie, you have a tramp stamp. Let's talk about that. Caught her off. Sorry, I'm sorry.
I am sorry. Lower back tattoo. Yes. Okay. Can you show it? I'm just curious. Sure. It's been a minute since I've... It's a bow. It's a bow. So what's the motivation there for the... The lower back tattoo, excuse me. It was just a spur of the moment, honestly. One random night. Cool. And I love bows. That's cool. Good talk. Good talk. All right. There's no deep meaning behind it. Sorry. Were you drunk?
Oh, no, wait. She's 18. Never mind. Well, I mean, that doesn't stop. All right. Let's see. Oh, quickly, let's do Twitch, Nick, and then Discord. Guys, I have an announcement when it comes to our Discord. Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever. Drop us a follow and a what? A prime sub.
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Guys, discord.gg slash whatever. Guys, we had a kick out. It's actually been a while since we've had a kick out. I do my best to not have to kick people off the show. I try to give them multiple chances. So if you can, guys, we're going to post the BTS of the... It was vulgar and despicable and I don't know what other...
Words, I can use various descriptive words. I don't even know. We're going to post it in our BTS. So Discord.gg slash whatever mods, if you can spam the link in the chat for those who want to check it out. Discord.gg slash whatever. It's going to be in the behind the scenes. So join up. Join up, guys. Appreciate it. Okay. We need to get into Kylie. We got Kylie and we got...
Penny or Penny? We got some interesting things we got to get into with you guys related to Fintom, some other stuff. So first I just want to pull up... Kylie, your TikTok. Can you pull that up? Can you sort by, let's do, why don't we sort by popular? It's right there on the right side. Okay. Is there music on the first one, or is it like speaking? Okay, Nick, just click it, but no audio, please. Okay. When my ex cheated on me and the girl made these TikToks in my car. That's your car.
And this is like two months ago. A month and a half ago. Okay, X out of it. X out of it. And that got 23.4 million views. On TikTok. That's a lot of views. How long were you dating that guy? That was my longest relationship. The 1.5 year guy? Yes. And were you guys exclusive? Yes. Okay. Was that by chance a friend of yours? That girl? Yes, I did know her. Is that how she ended up in your car making TikToks because she was your friend?
No, I was out of town, and he had a DUI, so his truck was impounded, and I let him use my car to get to and from work, and so that's what he was using my car for. Interesting. I had no idea she was there. So wait, hang on. Let's back up, though, because I'm really curious about this. This was your friend, right? Yes. And I'm guessing that you were subscribed to her TikTok, right?
No, my other friend. I wasn't like crazy close with her, but another. Yeah, but I mean, come on, you guys stalk each other's TikToks nonstop. Like that's all you guys do. How is she making TikToks in your car and you don't notice that? Just wondering. Because I didn't follow her. A mutual sent it to me. Yeah, so people who watch both your content, one of them sent it over and was like, hey, look at this. This is your card. Is that how you found out that he was banging this chick?
Yes, and after we broke up, he had posted pictures of some girl bent over on my car, and I had no idea who it was until someone sent me the TikTok. He's a brave and a decent man. He's a pioneer. Damn. Okay. Go back to the TikTok really quick. Pay Pig Shopping Spree. Let's watch that one. Is it music playing? Or is it... What's that?
No, but are they talking? Here, pause it, pause it. Yeah, we got no audio on this side. I'm saying, Nick, so my... Okay, play it, please. Like the audio. Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay, start from the beginning, please. is taking me and my besties shopping today. We canceled our tickets home because we wanted to stay in LA for longer, but we have no clothes left. So obviously our bitch is going to buy us some more clothes. And we only have five minutes to shop, so. Pause the audio.
All right. You can... No, keep going, keep going. All right, this is the... The pay pig taking you shopping. You guys are buying a bunch of stuff. Yes. No limit. No limit on anything. You just get everything. Get whatever you want. Yeah. Is that, that's it? Okay. All right. That's okay. Next one. Uh, which one? What's that? Another pay pic video. Okay. The one that she did.
Or your boyfriend? No. I thought you were saying that was the friend that... Okay, never mind. Okay. Yeah, pull it. I don't... We're at the mall right now. Pause it. Yep. Or, yeah. Okay, buying your stuff. Yep. Cool. Damn. 3,000? Is that him? Was that the guy? His hand's got a camion. Oh, shit. And he's carrying the fucking bags, too. All right. X out of it. Okay. Scroll down a little bit just so I can see what these are. Wait, Nick. Can you make them bigger? Like, zoom in.
One more, let's just say three. One more. Okay, scroll down, scroll down. When my best friend convinced me to break up with my boyfriend just to turn around and fuck with him. Wait. Best friend, you don't have to click it. Wait, hover over, hover over. Best friend convinced me to break up. Well, wait, wait, hang on, hang on. I thought you said that you weren't that close to her. That's about a different girl.
Wait, so you had another... Wait, wait, what? So your boyfriend cheated... Another boyfriend of yours cheated on you with another one of your friends? The same boy. It's a different girl. So how many of your friends did this guy plow? No, I plow. How many? How many of your friends did he bang? Well, it seems like two so far. Well, wait. Does it seem like two? Or did you just misspeak earlier, and the person you're referencing as your best friend was the girl making those TikToks?
No, it's two different girls. So two different girls. Well, how many did he actually bank? Just the two? I mean, I don't have, like, video proof, so I don't know. I don't really care to know, but I just know. Well, what did you say that she was... screwing around with him if you don't know. Because they were together and they were hanging out one-on-one and she's my friend. Oh. Your best friend. Yeah, she was. Cool. Good times. Let's see. Pull it back up, please.
Guys, stop making fun of me for dating him. I was 16. Yikes. Kind of, maybe. Yeah. Click on the one on the right. This one. For everyone wondering, this is the... You can just play it. No music. Wondering, this is the mid-white boy Shorty wants to fight over. Lizard boy. Wait, is that... Who's that on the left? Is that... Wait, is that one of your pay pigs wait Clearly. Is that the ex-boyfriend? Oh my god. Is that the ex-boyfriend? Yes!
Wait, can we pull it up one more time? You're so kind. Call him Med. It's not Med. Just play it. Play it. Wait, start one more time. Just play it from the beginning. Don't scare. Whatever. Is that you on the left too or is that some other person? That is me. Okay. All right. All right. This is the mid-white boy shorty. Damn. What a fucking legend. He must have like...
I just want to make sure here, Kylie, that I get this straight. This dude banged you and two of your friends, including your best friend. Is that right? Is that correct? Yes. Yes. What's that? Can you speak right into the mic? Yes. Oh, okay. I just wanted to make sure we were clear. Let's just move on. It's a hilarious video. Okay, next TikTok. Would it be safe to say that... That you got domed in this relationship? No. No? I don't know. I mean, it sounds like, you know, he's...
Pork in the whole circle, right? Including you. I mean, it sounds like he was kind of running the gambit on you girls, wasn't he? That was after we broke up. Like, I... Wait, uh... From what age to what age did you date him? 16 to 18. Like 18. And then, so just curious, what did you see in him? When I was 16, I was like going through some stuff and I didn't have anywhere to stay. So we were roommates at first. Wait, you were homeless? For a little bit.
So you were attracted to him because of the roof? He had a place. We were roommates at first, like just roommates. Oh. And then... something led to another were you guys friends before yes we had work together work together and then so how did you approach him about the housing situation like hey i'm homeless don't let me die fucking seattle sucks
Can I live with you? I walked up to him and asked if I could move in. Did you pay him rent? I did. Oh, man, this guy keeps the pimp hands strong here. Okay. By the way, were you dating him while you've been doing the Findom stuff? Or did that start after? Yes, I was, but my account really took off after me and him broke up. After, right. Was he getting a cut on any of this? No. No cut. Okay. I mean, gentlemen, there's hope for you. Yeah. Out there.
I mean... All you need to do is pick up a homeless chick off the street and start banging her friends. It's simple, right? It's easy. It's like just one, two, done. Hey, baby, you got a place to live? No, I got a place you can live. Bring your friends. Can we get this guy on the show? That would be amazing. I want to learn from this guy. I want to learn his secrets, bro. He must have Crazy Game or Big D or something.
He's killing it, dude. I think he just got lucky. Not anymore. Not anymore? Nope. You seen this new girl? He robbed me, and he's still struggling to pay his bills. Oh, yeah, he robbed you for how much? Technically, like, exactly 7,500. He also stole my motorcycle and robbed some stuff from my apartment. How did he rob you of 7,500? What was that? How did he rob you of 7,500?
So when we were together, he added my card to his Apple wallet and I had told him to take it off. I thought he did. And I didn't notice until like a month later when I was looking at my bank and I saw that there was like... 200 leaving my account every single day for about a month straight. And when I look at the date, it was like literally right when we and him completely cut contact. Is this your femdom money? Yes.
So wait a second, wait a second. So to get this right, all of your guys who came in to give you all that money were actually giving it to your boyfriend. So he got all of the rewards of your femdom. He got $7,500 worth of your femdom money. Then, on top of that, bang two of your friends. and stole your motorcycle. Do I have that correct? Sure. Okay. His life is going down.
I mean, you really earned that money. What a dick, this guy. It's okay, I got it back. My bank reimbursed me. I need to learn from this guy. No, he got lucky. He got lucky. Wait, so... Three times? He got lucky three times? Yes. Wait, who got... No, that was quite a coincidence that his penis was slipping into all these women just by pure luck. It was sheer luck.
He was just walking down the street, lightning struck, and bam, his penis went into multiple women's vaginas. Crazy. Pure luck. It is. Does he have riz? Okay, let me just say something. Sure. Okay. Go ahead. Number one, if I am like who I am now and I had met him, I would never date him. I was just... Were you down bad? I was...
I was homeless. So yeah, I was a little down bad. So he just, he just, he lucked out. But I'm a little confused because you, you moved in with him, but you weren't dating. So you weren't homeless because you were living with him. It was before I met him. Wait, you dated him before you met him? No. What was before you met him? I was homeless before I met him. Right, but you said it started out just like a housemate situation. Yes. So it wasn't like...
Well, I'm going to start dating him and use him for his house or whatever. You moved in platonic, you were paying him rent, and you were living with him. So you already established your security when it comes to not being homeless. So I don't think we can use you being homeless as justification for wanting to date him. Or was he giving you a really good deal on rent? Trying to be charitable here? I just know that me now, I would never date him.
What did the other two girls see in him, do you think? Is it big? Yeah. Huge? Like here. Tell me when to stop. Tell me when to stop. The size of this microphone, maybe? I don't know. I don't know. I don't remember. That's a spicy meatball. What I was going to say was... All the girls that he's getting with after me, like Jaden, the one that was in my car, anyone, literally anyone, any man ever could have sex with her. Anyone.
Nick, can you pull up the specs on a Shure SM7B, please? Such slander. Such slander. Wait, sorry. Repeat it again? Sorry, I missed that. I said anyone could have sex with her, and that goes for the other girl. Anyone can have sex with those other girls? Yes. There's some men in the chat who are asking for the numbers. I'm joking. She was the mouth that got away.
I don't think any of them are a prize. They're all easy. Anyone could have them. Nick, do you have the specs? It's almost like trading sex for a room, right? It's simple. Nick, can you pull up the actual specs, like the spec sheet? No, it's there. Go back. Hail and well met. One sec, one sec. All you simps white knighting for these women and this is the dude they all fight for. Stop simping. Be the guy that steals their money. Be the guy they fight over. Be the guy that steals their pay.
Well, Paladins, good to see you in the chat, man. Thank you for the TTS, man. Nick, can you pull up the show? It's the second link there. Scroll down. I want to see the blueprint. Yeah, pull it up. Spec sheet. Scroll up. All right. Scroll down. Make the specifications bigger, please. Specifications. Wait, does it show the dimensions? Where's the dimensions? It's right there. Where? I don't see it. Scroll down there? Scroll up. Scroll up scroll where's it? I don't see it wait where?
No, that's not it. That's not it. Okay, go back to the Google thing. It's fine, whatever. There's weight. Okay, here. Click on the first link. Just click on the first link. Maybe that'll... It's not going to show up. Just click it. Just click it. Click it. I want to see. Click it. Scroll down. Scroll down. You sure it's not going to? Make it bigger. Make it bigger. I'm really curious. Bigger. Bigger. Bigger. Bigger. Bigger.
Okay, scroll down. Scroll down. Oh, there we hit it, Nick. Make it bigger, please. Wait, no, too big. Okay, so, wow, 7.5 inches. But let's look at the girth of the Shure SM7V. The girth is... 3.775 inches. Okay, this guy's packing. No, this guy's back in here. It was a rough estimate. Yeah, I mean, I think a four by seven is like fucking, I think like porn stars wish they could have that, right? This guy, this guy.
He's a little too obsessed. Anyways, next TikTok, please. That was good. It was good. We learned a lot. We learned a lot about Kylie. You want to go back to here? Yeah, so scroll down a bit. Just mouse over, please. Wild, you ate her up without an effort the way I've ever once been. Okay, I don't know. Just mouse over that next one. Pay Pig taking me. Okay, you guys are going shopping.
Okay. Is that him? The guy standing with all the bags? Yes. You can see he kissed my... Oh, my God. Oh, no. Oh, no. Does he do it again? Oh, that's him with the money. Yes, that is. Oh, wait, let's just see it again until the... Oh, no. Oh, my God. Oh, jeez. I can't. Who is kissing the last? Oh my god. Hold on. Get the fuck out of here, bro. Send in the fucking rockets, boys. Holy shit. Disavow.
I disavow. All right, pull up the TikTok again. All right. This is your sign to get belly button period. Okay, that, no, no offense. That's great, but the next mouse scroll, nope. Yep. Reason why I love pay pigs in stocks. I'm only 18 years old and made six figures in two months. On track to buying a house this year, going vacation every month, and financially free investing all my money to set me up for life.
What's the next one? Is that just you doing a TikTok dance or something? Yeah. All right, that's cool. The finger chews. Okay, don't care. Scroll down. Chasing the bag while he's chasing Hose. Is this about your ex? Yes. It's about any man. Any man. Okay. Next one. What's this? Do you know what this one is? It's just me talking. About anything interesting? Telling people to stop sending that girl death threats. Oh, okay. All right. That one, Fyndom won't get you far in life. Whose house is that?
T. Huh? T. Taylor. Lautner? No. No. His name's Taylor. What's that stupid vampire movie? Twilight. This is Twilight money here? Yeah. Taylor Lautner's house. And Findom is not paying for you for that, right? And for this podcast. Because you're advertising them. I mean, I see the reels. I mean, TikTok video. You advertise them. Are you talking to me? No, no, no. I'm talking with her.
She's advertising... She's advertising the platform where she's making money. But it's not the platform. Wait, what? Findom is not a platform. Findom is... It's not a platform? No. Like only for your fans or Instagram or... Here, pull it back up, Nick. Simp Funded Hall, let's go over that one. There's no music. Oh, you guys are just talking? Yeah. Is it good? Are you essentially just saying, here's the stuff I got, blah, blah, blah. Next one, Nick.
Just Thirst Trap. Scroll down. Is there text? Just Thirst Trap. Oh, okay. Scroll down. Weed. Oh, okay. Next. Is this just Thirst Trap? Yeah. Okay. Sometimes you just got to everything happens for a reason and move on. Scroll down. Okay, last three here probably. No one could ever convince me to leave. Okay, next. Okay, next.
Okay, hold on. Next three. Hold on. Let me just see these next. Scroll down. Okay, talking. Cool. When we hung out with another girl behind my back, so I said I'd forgive him if he got my name tatted by that. Wait. Oh. Yes. He got my name tatted on his neck. Maybe she kind of gets a W here. He tatted your name on Kylie. Yes. Can you change that to like Calabias or something? He tried to put some like disgusting little like, I don't know if it's.
A tree growing, but it's just like there's this line that goes past my name, but you can still read it. Do you have any tattoos of him on you? No, I do not. Okay. I'm not stupid. Damn. He took an L there. Wait, did you dump him the day after? He snatched the feet, Brian, from the jaws of victory. This guy was doing so good, but then... No, he still is broke after stealing from her, too.
We didn't do anything good with them. Well, I mean, but this wasn't very long ago, right? No. It takes a while. It takes a while for somebody to get back on their feet after, you know, banging a homeless chick and all of her friends. It takes a little bit. It takes a little while. Right? This guy, he's got, you know, he's got some time. All right, let's see the rest. Let's look at the rest, some of the more the TikToks. Let's see what we got. All right. By the way, I think we should put on...
Can you put it on window tab? Yeah. I think, yeah, it's not a big deal, but. Okay, three more, and then we'll look at most recent, and then we'll move on. Simpal, okay, next. What's this mask? Next. That's your car? Yes. That's cool. PayPig bought me more Gucci. Okay, all right. So you got receipts. Some girls will claim, oh, I got all these to try to get more, but I feel like...
is pretty legit with you. Like, you're posting the receipts. Scroll up, Nick, all the way to the top, please. Hard to believe, but it's real. I believe it. I believe it. Although sometimes people exaggerate, but scroll down. A little bit latest, please. I just want to see the three latest. No, no, no, no, no. Up, up, up, up. Latest, popular. Yeah. Scroll down. Oh, these are pinned. Okay. Scroll down. Wait, scroll back up. The pinned ones. Okay, we saw that one. Scroll down. Less than 1%.
The first one, please. Less than 1% of 18-year-olds in America are making a six-figure salary. Well, you're not making a salary. You might be making six figures, but it's okay. I forgive you, Kylie. Did you set up a business? What are you telling the government your profession is? I'm so curious. Do you pay taxes? Well, I started it this year, so not yet.
But I would file for just self-employment. Self-employment, yeah. Like how TikTokers pay their taxes. When the boy I met at my lowest stretch to come back, he came back, the guy? Was that the guy? He's come back. Nick, you can hover. Yes. All right, scroll down. We'll probably just do these three. You ain't going to like when you meet the ultimate femdom called the IRS. Yeah, exactly. It takes 40% of your femdom money. You ain't going to like that. Can you make it smaller?
Right corner? I can't in the right corner but I can do the right small. Okay, right corner is fine. Okay. Pale and well met. We'll come back to it. Oh, you law paladins, you little abuser, you. Okay, it's not an L at all. Now he has a neck tattoo. You guys don't understand women at all. Having a different chick's name tatted means the next girl can fix him and relationship material.
I don't know if that's going to be a W with the ladies if you have another girl's name. I don't think that's a W for men or women. Pull it back up. Thank you, Law Paladins, though. Abusing law paladins. You are abusing my friend. Let's see. I'm just joking. Law paladins. There's no way men send you thousands without wanting something in return. Are you talking in this one?
It's a sound. Or is it video? Okay, and then you're just showing. Here's the receipts. Here's all this Gucci that I got. Scroll down, Nick. Hover over. Scroll down. Go ahead. Okay. First one. PayPig bought me more. Is that the PayPig there? Oh, no, that's her. Oh, okay. Oh, I see you're hiding. Okay, all right. Next one over. What's this? You know what this is? Talking about nothing. No one cares. Now I really want to click it. Let's hear what she has to say.
Click it. Play it. TikTok about how my ego goes up whenever people ask me if I have lip filler. And then the comments on that video were just like, you have lip filler. Do you have lip filler though? I do not. Okay. And then scroll down a little bit. Okay, I think we've got a good idea. I just wanted to do a little TikTok review here. The TikTok review segment, that's interesting. We have some tweets, too, that are interesting that we should...
Pull up, I think. I don't know about all that. How do you get to address it? So we'll do that. But hold on one sec, Nick. There's actually one specific one, Nick, that I wanted to pull up. But I'm trying to see if I can. I'm 18 and old. Hold on, Nick. I'm going to send it really... This is the first one we're going to do, then we'll get through the ones you already have. Okay, Nick? Okay, there's one that we also put up after TikTok. Yeah, that's one.
Can you get that pulled up? Pale and well met. Oh, wait. Wait, did I read these two? Did I read this one? You read that one. Oh, okay. Damn, Lopalins, you're... Guys, TTI... Lopalins, you're abusing, bro. You didn't read this one. I didn't?
No. All you simps white knighting for these women, this is the dude. They all five four stop simping. Be the guy that steals their money. Wait. Yeah, you did. Yeah, I did. Be the guy that steals their pay. Love paladins. Abusing, my friend. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the message. Appreciate it. Nick, you got it? Scroll it up nice and appropriate size. On my way to a paid podcast to talk to incels for a few hours.
Actually, I should have had you read it. Here, put it in your own words. Go ahead. Oh, just read it. You want me to repeat it? Yeah. I'll have you read them because we're going to pull up the tweets. Go ahead. On my way to a paid podcast to talk to incels for a few hours. Lol. Lol. Incel. How do you define incel? A man that thinks he is above women or talks down on women. I think...
You bring a lot of girls on here, and you kind of corner them and ask them questions that you know will make them sound stupid, and you just circle back and forth on that. Wait. Pale and well met. Lol Paladins donated $200.02. She said he has it mostly covered, it's not abuse to use the system as created, to your benefit which is what her ex does. Now he has a story to show pre-selection of other women.
Isn't an incel a celibate guy by choice? Is that the definition? Yeah, incel, celibate. So I'm happy to get into the criticisms of the show or whatever, but first... So looking at the actual word incel, what does that mean? What does it stand for? I guess it stands for celibate. I had no idea. Well, it stands for involuntarily celibate. So I just, I want to be...
Kind of clear here with the accusation. Are you... Because I know some... Basically, incel is just a word that's used as basically like sort of a ad hominem attack. Like, oh, this person is... You're not literally trying to say that this person is involuntarily celibate, but you're saying, oh, this person's essentially a piece of shit. Is that the way you're using the word? I'm just curious.
No, I was just saying it in the sense that you guys kind of just degrade a lot of women on here. Well, I mean, maybe I'm being pedantic here, but like you could call us assholes or jerks or misogynists. instead of incel, right? Because incel has a specific meaning, so I'm trying to determine how I want to tackle the argument here. I don't know. I kind of just shitpost on Twitter. Okay.
Because I could actually tackle it like head on the actual definition of the word incel, but I don't think that's the sense of how you're using it. So repeat again. How are you using it? It just said I think you degrade a lot of women on here. Okay, how do I degrade women? I would consider you an incel. Wait, sorry. I degrade a lot of women on here, so you consider me an incel.
Okay, I guess I got my definition of incel wrong if it means involuntary celibate. I'll even grant that a lot of people use that word as sort of like just a sort of blanket sort of just attack. In the same way people will say... this person's racist or a bigot when it's, there's actually no evidence for these things being true. People just throw out like a kind of buzzword and attempt to like, just to attack somebody. So how's the way you're using it?
I just said it. But so what am I or what is Andrew doing? And is it directed towards Andrew or just me or both? Well, I just mean you guys. hate sex work, but you bring on all these OnlyFans girls. No one here, but in other shows. Nick, can you pull up the stats? You brought on a bunch of OnlyFans girls. Sure. Yeah, we've had on a good amount of OnlyFans girls.
Nick's about to pull up some statistics because this is a common criticism. We actually, I had someone painstakingly go through all the episodes so that we can actually basically debunk this accusation to some degree. So 20% of the guests we've had on the show, and we've had on over 1,000 guests, only 20% are involved in sex work. So I think it's 17% do OnlyFans, and then the other 3%.
are either like strippers or do traditional porn or even full-on escorting prostitution. I have no idea. It might be in the... I can't really try to find it in the Dropbox folder. Not sure. It might be in the Downloads folder. You might have to scroll down a little bit. But so, knowing that only...
If you just take my claim at face value, knowing that only 20% of the guests that we have on the show are involved in OnlyFans, does this change your position at all or still? I mean, you still choose to invite them on here. Whether you act like you hate sex work you're... Do I? Yes. Okay, what evidence do you have of that? I mean you've...
Shame women for having high body counts in turn. Well, you could have a high body. Hold on. You could have a high body count and not be a sex worker. Do you or do you have anything against sex workers? Would you date one? Well, I mean, couldn't you, on the dating front, couldn't you not want to date a woman who does sex work, but also not hate sex workers? Yes. Okay. I don't think I hate...
sex workers. I think, and I try to treat people, sometimes I joke around, but I think I try to treat people as respectfully as I can. But are you against it? Am I against sex work? Yes. Well, there's a couple layers here. If you were to ask me is sex work in totality bad for society, I would have to say yes. I'm almost wondering, though, if you would agree with me on that. Looking at it, bird's eye view yourself. Like, for example, alcohol is bad for society, I think. It's not illegal, though.
Andrew might disagree. I don't know if Andrew's going to want to debate me on the alcohol thing. I do think in totality, sex work is probably bad for society. It's bad for the women who do it. It's bad for the people who consume it. There's obviously varying degrees of sex work, but I don't hate the women who do sex work unless they're kind of obnoxious or...
Oh, you might have pulled it up in the wrong one. I don't hate women who do sex work unless they're kind of obnoxious or they are defrauding men in some sort of way. What have you heard me say that you disagree with? Personally, I mean, I tried watching one of the episodes and, like, I remembered things, but I, at this very moment, can't remember anything. Okay.
So I have said that I would not date a woman who's done boy-girl content, for example. That would disqualify her. Well, that used to be my prior position. Now I'm actually leaning a bit more towards... any kind of sex work, I would not date a woman who does any kind of sex work. My prior position was, well, so long as, and this is an old position of mine, so long as she hasn't,
done boy-girl content. You know, she does like solo content or something. I was like, eh, it's not so bad. But then I've thought about it more. I'll say this. I have not. dated a woman who does OnlyFans or Stripped or any kind of sex work thus far. There are plenty of women out there who are attractive, who have pleasant personalities. who aren't involved in sex work. So, yeah, I'm pretty confident here can say that I would not date a woman who does sex work. Okay. But, yeah.
Yeah. Is that wrong, though? Am I wrong for that? No, because I wouldn't date a guy that is a porn star. Oh, well, okay. Why? I think it's fair. Because you hate men, right? Do you hate men? No, not all men. Most men? Yeah. Kylie. All right. Okay. So just to kind of get this right, I just want to make sure we got this right. Brian hates women because he won't date sex workers.
Right? And you hate men because you won't date corn stars. Is that correct? Or maybe just neither of you hate men and neither of you hate women based on your dating preferences. hated women. You literally did say that, yeah. You said he's an incel. You're going on a show with a bunch of incels, you said. And you said that you categorize incel as somebody who hates and... is mean to the women.
Okay, sure. Don't take anything on my Twitter seriously. I take five seconds to post and I don't even reread it. I'm not taking it seriously. That's why I'm asking you. I'm just straight up asking you. Does incel to you, if incel to you is just a derogatory word and you say, well, it seems like you bring on sex workers so that you can socially shame them or be mean to them or point out how dumb they are or whatever it is, whatever the criticism is.
and so therefore you hate women. I don't really see why that's any different than what you're doing exactly. Isn't it the same thing if you have these kind of preferences against men? Yeah, sure. Wait, don't you literally degrade... Men? For money? Yes. Consensually? Don't the women come on my show consensually? Yeah. Yeah. Now, don't you... I mean, given the admissions that you've made on the show and some of the videos we've seen...
Wouldn't it be fair to say that the degree to which you degrade men is orders of magnitude more egregious? than the way in which you allege I degrade women. Oh, yeah, for sure. Oh, okay. She's self-aware, at least.
Wait, it's okay. What's your objection then? It's like I come on the show and sometimes I get a little huffy puffy with some of the girls and I'm like, well, you're not a 10. And then also, oh, your body count's a bit high. And then you're like, I'm going to step on your fucking balls, bitch.
Hold on. Who's the villain here? Who's the villain? Poor old Brian here? Boy, your body count's a bit high, dear. Or Kylie. I'm going to step on your balls and... bankrupt you bitch who's the villain kylie kylie i never claimed to be an angel but you're like fuck this fuck this little misogynist incel podcast but they're Slut shaming and they're... No, I agree with slut shaming. I do. For men and women.
Why is that? Why do you agree with slut-shaming, Kylie? Well, I mean, this is just my personal opinion, but I think... Oh, sorry, sorry, go ahead, go ahead. You think? I think people that have a super high body count and... They lost their meaning of sex, and instead of it being something you do with someone you love and care about, it's more of just like a pleasure, like get off in the moment. I feel like those people are more likely to cheat.
I don't know. That's actually, that's an astute observation. Yeah. So, I mean, they've actually done research on this, Kyle. You're 100% right. So they look, when it comes to infidelity, so the more... The more sexual partners someone has had, the more likely they are to cheat on you. Now, it's not saying everybody who has a high body count will cheat on you, but it's more likely, right? Those are facts. Facts!
Can't disagree with Kylie here. So you think we should slut shame then? For everyone, men and women. Sure, I can get behind that. Yes. But one of your criticisms was, Brian... You like to slut shame the women. But you also, you're like, yes, we should slut shame the women, Kylie. Me and Kylie agree on everything, apparently. Yeah, we did. We agree on everything, I guess. Okay.
I want to hear, Kylie, I want you to slut shame all the women at the table right now. Go ahead. Call them all sluts. Just kidding. Do it, Kylie. Well, I don't know if they are, so I can't. Just assume. Just assume? Yeah. Slut, you disgusting poor bag. You open your legs for anyone. You're disgusting. Go get tested.
Can you, here, I won't have the, you do the rest of the panel. What's really funny is like, you think she's kidding, right? You think she's kidding. It's like, you know, though, you know behind the eyes, she means that shit. You know it. She means that shit. No, she's not, though. Definitely not. We have the same body count. You're a fuck, you liar! You're a fuck, you liar! You'll see it in a year when you're dating your boyfriend. You'll see it in a year. That's another thing.
Last thing, Kylie, can you slut shame Anissa here? She needs to be taken down a peg. Because she said she was like infinite, infinity, infinity. I think Anissa's cute. No, just slut-shame her. Go ahead. No, she loves her boyfriend. Slut-shame her. Come on, do it. She's hip. She can't be a friend. Do you give her permission to slut-shame you? No. Anissa. Anissa. That's her boyfriend. She can be a slut. I mean, you can still be a slut. Well, yeah.
Alright, now we're going to get into the other tweets. There's a lot of tweets. Just don't take it all too seriously, guys. I'm just warning you. Well, we also have your tweets, too. Me? Yep. So I think those are the first ones, actually. Those are the first ones. By the way, Kylie, wait, hold on. No, it's all good. I actually remember your sister came on. It's interesting. You guys have very similar mannerisms. Like the way you laugh, it's kind of very similar to your sister. It's interesting.
I mean, it makes sense, right? You guys are related. Next, pull it up. All right, so this is Penny, right? Yeah. Bitches matter. Wait, you have to read it. Oh, my God. Bitch is mad because of a couple simple facts. I'm prettier than them, funnier than them, smarter than them, and skinnier than them. Kiss your face. Word. Okay.
By the way, for the whole panel, we have, like, a ton of these we've got to react to. So we can't stay – we can't get dug in too much on any singular tweet. We kind of have to, like, rapid fire them because there's – There's a lot of tweets. All right, go ahead. So, basically, oh, sorry. Oh, actually, I was just going to go to the next tweet. Unless you had, like, really quick. No, that's just, like, the whole fandom thing.
Nothing. Was that for women? You finned on women too. Have you finned on women too? Wait, so you're LARPing? You're LARPing? Define LARPing. Live action role play? You're not being serious. You're leaning into the idea of the Fendom, but that's not really you. You're just LARPing. I don't know if I believe it, though. I would say it's like an over-exaggeration. It was that and a hate account.
Oh, could you maybe scoot to the table just a little bit so we can get you closer to the mic? Nick, can you pull it up? Next ones. We're going to have to zoom out a little bit on this. So you have to read all these, too. Men just gross me out. Are you saying anything in the video? No, it's just a TikTok. It's a TikTok. Here's me. It's like music. Okay, all right. Men gross you out? Well, yeah. Does Nick gross you out? Sorry, Nick. No.
Would you... I'm speaking to the subs. Sorry, Hank. To the beta males. To the beta males. Oh, okay. The beta males. All right. Next tweet. Can you read it? You pathetic man keep buying me things. I'm worth your whole paycheck, loser. Damn. That's brutal, man. That's brutal. Okay, next. Can you read it, please? White men should have never been put on this earth. What? Don't take anything serious. I'm telling you.
This is all what they want to hear. I don't like that kind of talk. Wait, so why though? Because they love, like, they just... Race play is a really big thing on there. But you believe that shit, right? No. Aren't you like half white? Well, yeah, I am. Is your dad?
Black or is he white? Yeah. He's like fully Jamaican. Jamaican. Okay, so you'd still be alive then. No. do you mean she'd still be alive she wouldn't have a mom right no i think she said white men oh yeah she said white men so so white women okay i don't believe You could be a white Jamaican. Cheers to Nick and Big Desi for keeping it locked down, BTS. May we always be happy, and may our enemies always know it. Cheers, fellas.
Yo, Jay Ekin, thank you for the 200. Really appreciate it, man. Thank you, thank you. And, yeah, thank you, man. Appreciate it. Let's see here. What the? Okay. Thank you, bro. Let's go back to the tweets. I'll have you read them. Skinny men aren't real. Fat men aren't real. They can't exist. Do you see how pathetic they are? Shitposting. I haven't even seen those. Really? No, I don't go on Twitter. Can I just...
point out to you something, Brian. Is Brian nearby? Is he coming back? He seems busy. Yes, Andrew, I am here. How can I? What's up? I just wanted to point out, Brian, that no. See, if mom's white, then mom had parents. Right? And one of them must have been a white man, right? Yeah. I see what you're saying, but I was thinking more just like one generation. I was thinking it was a one generation thing. Obviously, you know, like she was talking...
One generation? Yeah. But you're right, she wouldn't. I wasn't thinking that deep, Andrew. But you did defeat me. You used your amazing debate skills to just fucking BTFO me. I got fucking smoked. He destroyed me. I concede. You know what, Andrew? Andrew, I concede. I resigned my position. In fact,
If you want to learn, Andrew just fucking smoked me. If you want to learn to do what Andrew just did to me, you got to get the course. Go to debateuniversity.com. You want to become a master debater like Andrew, you got to go. to debate university.com and get his course verbal combat okay 80 plus videos it's like is it andrew it's six hours of about six hours of content right
Yep, and more is going to get released soon. There's going to be more. There's going to be more, and it's, guys, seriously, guys, Andrew is arguably, he is the best debater of our time, possibly. He is possibly the... I think this is a bit too much glazing. Never mind. He's very good, though. He's great. He's fantastic. He's fantastic. He could have smoked. Andrew, who were some Greek debaters back in the day, like BC?
Like who were like the good ones? Socrates, Plato. Andrew, do you think you would like smoke Socrates? No. Plato? No. Epictetus? Titus? Maybe him. How about Aristotle? You should have gone with Aristotle next. Aristotle? I think I could have beaten Aristotle, yeah. Do you think there's going to be time travel in the future, Andrew? Could we set up a debate between you and somebody, or what do you think?
Well, no, time travel is not really logical, so I don't think so. I see. You have that whole grandfather paradox thing. Like what happens if you travel back in time and then shoot yourself just before you build the time machine? Like what happens? creates paradoxes this happened in dragon ball z where like trunks and stuff like he went back to the future but it was like a different like because of the androids and shit like the androids like 17 and 18 like
These two right here. Hold on. These two like fucked up, like trunks his timeline and shit. So he like went back and he tried to like change it, but then like his. original timeline was still, like, didn't do anything. And then, like, Cell came and shit. It was very complicated. Yeah, but I mean, I feel like when he took Frieza out with that big sword, that that was, uh... One of the best parts of DVZ, to be honest with you. Yeah.
when you just cut Frieza in half for no particularly good reason. I didn't see that coming, you know what I mean? I've gone through hours of blank stares as they just kind of looked at each other for, you know, to 15 minutes of filler per episode. And then, yeah, that hit me. I wasn't expecting that. Ladies, would you date a guy who's watched...
all the way from, like, the Saiyan saga all the way to, like, through the, like, the Boo saga? Like, and he watches it, like, once, like, like, at least once a year? I don't know what that is. Yeah, nerdy guys are hot. Would you guys date, like, a guy who... Just curious. Okay, anyway, so back to the tweets. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. How do I get so distracted? Men are dis... Wait, you read it? Men are disgusting. Bruh. Let's fin them for you. Wait, what do you think of white people? I love them.
I love every race. What about white men? White men, I love them. White men, you love them? Love them. You're just saying that? No. Your tweet says otherwise. Tweets are tweets. Okay. Fiendom is Fiendom. I'm in my... All right, next tweet. I don't believe that. You worship me knowing I'll always hate you in my car. Oh, my God. Damn. Okay, next. Makeup looks really good. We'll try to get through these. Read it. $5 if you agree. Short men have no purpose on this earth.
Oh my god. No hate. No hate. Do you believe it? No. Of course not. I don't buy it. I don't buy it because I'm pretty sure one of you tweeted, like, all of these tweets, I mean all of them. None of them are sarcastic. None of them are ironic. It's my 100%. Deeply held beliefs. I'm pretty sure both of you tweeted that and pinned it on your Twitter profile. I did not. Just kidding about that last part. Next one, please. Next one.
Just make another sissy or just made another sissy going today. You're welcome. Now these are the interesting ones because I don't think you're joking about this one, right? He had to stop talking to me for a little bit because he didn't have enough money. And so, and Andrew, I'm going to want you to come in on this one here. Just about a couple of questions. And Andrew, I don't know if you recall, we've actually explored this with another girl before this whole like.
bankrupt try to bankrupt the guy basically so i'll get you in here in just a sec um have both of you um when it comes to the fandom thing have you like put a guy into like debt where he's in financial worry or what have you guys done? Yes, but also a lot of the guys have this own fantasy in their head and it's not always true. Like sometimes they'll pretend like they have a girlfriend.
And as if they're cheating on her or they'll pretend like they max out their whole credit card and pretend like they're going to be late on rent because that's like the turn on for them, even though it's not really true. Could happen. I guess we'll never know. But so have you ever bankrupted the guy? I mean, I've been told.
that they were late on rent because of me, so yeah. So he could have been homeless. This one dude sent me a screenshot of his bank account. It was like negative $300. What is it, overdrafted? And then the other question... Knowing like if I know you said some of these guys, maybe they're like doing a role, like kind of a role play where they're not being honest, but assuming they are honest. Would you have any qualms? Like if it.
Because, I mean, financial insecurity or being broke, going homeless, going into debt, having to go through bankruptcy, I guess these things are pretty bad things for somebody. Would there be a line for either of you? Here's this guy. He's paying you $1,000, $2,000 a month, but he's also simultaneously telling you as part of his kink. That he is going to be evicted. He's going to have debt. He's going to be bankrupted. But he still wants to keep sending you money. Would you stop him? No.
This is on free will. Another thing about fandom is I had a guy tell me his concerns like that before and I like sat on a phone call with him because he was actually just crying to me that close to the mic. Sorry. Crying to me that he couldn't stop sending money to girls on the internet. So I called him and we went over how much he made. I gave him a budget for everything. So when he gets paid, it just like...
he sends it all directly to me and then I send back the money for like his rent and food and everything. So, but I mean, no, in the scenario I provided, would you keep going? Wait, wait, wait a second. What? You talk to him on the phone, and he sends his entire paycheck to you, and then you send him enough to pay his rent? Yes. Wait, so...
To my question, though, in the scenario I provided to you, would you keep going? If they said they were getting evicted? All the way to bankruptcy? Yes. He gave you all his money? Yes. And knowing if you knew that this would lead to them being homeless, would you keep going? It's like an awkward question because I'll never really know. Well, let's assume you do. They'll be happy and homeless? Maybe.
If he doesn't stop himself. If I knew them as a real person. They're one of your pay pigs. I know, but if I knew them, let's say in real life, I had some eye into their world and they were actually going homeless, I don't need the money that bad that I would like. do that to just one person when there's other pay pigs that can compensate. What if there weren't other pay pigs in just this one? Still, I don't need the money that bad.
I'm not sure I believe you, but can I ask you this sort of similar question? Let's say somebody had a self-harm kink and they wanted you to bully them and to the point where they eventually would... delete themselves. And they would pay you money to do this? No. I've had guys DM me about that. I think that's so uncomfortable and weird. It's sickening to me. But so...
Why do you have objections to that sort of harm? You would be harming them financially by continuing to accept their money to the point of... eviction, homelessness, bankruptcy, they can't pay for their medical bills. I know it's not the same, but there is a harm that's occurring to them. So what's the difference? I mean, like I said, I never really know for sure what's going on. If that is actually happening or if they're just lying, that's part of their fantasy.
But don't these men tell you? Like, I might be... It turns me on. I might be evicted. It turns me on. You might bankrupt me. If I'm going to be honest, no. This is like... Twitter is not real to me. I honestly don't even see these guys. Okay, I mean, I don't know if I believe you. I mean, I agree with you, Brian. But it's not the same.
So I just want to start saying it's not the same, but I think like these guys, it's an addiction. It's the same if you're like, not the same. Okay. It's similar. If you're an addicted gambler, like. They're going to keep spending money. They're going to go completely bankrupt. Are the casinos going to close their doors? No. It's a cruel world. I don't know what to say.
There's going to be other women if they won't do it. I mean, I understand your line of questioning, and I don't agree with what they do, but it's sort of... It's an addiction, and the guys need to go get help as addicts as well. It's like a dual...
Blame, in my opinion. That's actually a good argument. I'm not sure if I immediately have a rebuttal to the casino comparison here. People lose their life savings because they're such addicted gamblers. They need to go to therapy. We don't blame the casino. This is actually a decent argument. I'm sure there's actually a rebuttal to it, but it's not occurring to me immediately.
Maybe there's a component of it's more personal. Yeah, the comparison is they're humans. They should have empathy. Actually, I do have a bit of a rebuttal. Maybe Andrew can join in. So the casino... is not going to be privy to the fact that the individual is nearing bankruptcy because this individual is not likely to make disclosures. To the casino, by the way, I'm going bankrupt. This is not something that's going to be communicated to the casino. Do you think they would care, though?
Probably not, but the casino has no way of vetting for this. The casino is a sort of faceless corporation. There's dozens, hundreds, thousands of employees. There's layers to it. Whereas this is a very... very like immediate connection and the men are making disclosures to the individual woman that i am going bankrupt so the the woman has become now aware
of the circumstances of the man, and does she have a duty or responsibility to... For example, I'll actually give you a counter example. A bartender who is aware that a patron is... An alcoholic, yeah. Reaching the point of intoxication to such a degree that he is at harm of himself. I think there's actually potential criminal civil liability for a bartender who continues to pour, pour, pour while this person is essentially...
uh, arriving towards, uh, arriving towards alcohol poisoning. And I do think maybe Andrew, do you know about this? There's like cases where, uh, if a, if a pay, uh, drinker, patron at the bar, gets a DUI, and it can be proven that the, like, the... I feel like I've heard something like this. I could be making this up, but... The bartender could maybe even be held liable in some degree. Andrew, any... That makes sense. I think that that's based on locality, state.
You know, different various laws. I understand what you're saying, that if a bartender continues to serve you when you're drunk, they could be held liable. That's true, but there's also all sorts of laws in different states.
exempt them from liability but here's here's the thing ultimately brian like i'm thinking about this right the more the more that we talk with these like femdoms and you know what brian fuck it i'm just gonna so the crucible's gone dark okay so it is now the dark crucible and i'm on my fucking degenerate arc and so here's what we're gonna do
If any of you stupid bitches out there want to send me all of your fucking money, if you want to send me all of your fucking money to treat you like shit, go ahead. Go ahead, and if you want to send all your money to Brian to treat you like shit... Just go ahead and do it. Just go ahead. Yes! That's awesome! I will do Findom. I will do Findom. Can I Findom you? Kylie? I had to climb that offer. Is it because I'm white? Racist. All right.
Okay. I guess we'll do next tweet, I guess. I did want to add something about the casinos. Oh, wait. Andrew, I mean kind of going – go ahead. Yeah, I did want to add something about the casinos. I worked in a casino. And they did have people, when they were borrowing money from the casino to gamble because they couldn't pay back, when they couldn't pay back, they'll be cut off. So they did have the same thing. That's good. I didn't know that.
telling blackjack dealers or anyone, if you see someone coming back over and over again, over gambling, you have to let know of the security guards to stop them. Well, one thing on that. So I don't gamble. I don't think I've even ever gambled. So I'm not really familiar at all with how casinos work.
You said that if somebody's borrowing money from the casino, they'll cut them off. Yeah. But is this because of compassion for the individual or is it because we now recognize as a company that if we allow this person to... borrow too much the likelihood that they'll ever be able to pay it back so there's just like an arbitrary we only allow people to to borrow five thousand one thousand whatever it is so i don't know if it's like
out of some sort of compassion as it just like it's to protect the bottom line, protect the casino from not... Because they might not be able to get the money back. Well, there's an easier defeater for the argument. The defeater is just that the casino and gambling dens are not purposely banking on their clientele being mentally ill.
So casinos are going to make money, maximum money, by you being able to continuously create money for yourself, generate revenue for yourself, so that you can then give a small portion of it to the casino. So the more mentally stable you are, the better off the casino actually. as most people only gamble recreationally. Very few of them get addicted. In the case of femdoming...
The mental illness aspect, I think, is just kind of baked in. The idea here that men would want to purposely be degraded, abused, and have the ball stepped on, things like this. that seems like that is the banking demographic, right? Nope. Take it away, Morgan.
Oh, gosh. Yeah, casinos, they also, like, since we started talking about casinos, they're supposed to, like, if the person in Gamblers Anonymous, in GA, they're supposed to... kick this person out of the casino if they put themselves I tested myself I am in GA in Gamblers Anonymous I called the casinos put my name on the list they didn't care
They didn't care. No. I'm just saying there's some personal responsibility if you are an addict, just like we talked about the bartender and the alcohol. We're talking about this, you know, we're talking about them. Yes, there is a mental illness component. Is addiction a mental illness? I don't know. but you know it's addiction so they're like there is responsibility for both parties is really all i'm saying with that argument that both parties have the responsibility to stop it
I agree that when it comes to addicts, that addicts have to also help themselves. Absolutely. What I'm saying is that the purpose of the den itself is not to create addicts. It's just to make money. giving a recreational activity. It's not designed to create attics. I would say, for instance, a tobacco company...
They actually design a product to create addicts, right? Their product is designed specifically for that. For casinos, that's not actually a really good model, right? They don't want addicts. They want people to... instead be making money to give a portion to them. If they become destitute, they can't continue to do that.
Well, the house always wins, and I have heard that casinos do certain things, especially in Vegas. They'll pump the air in the casino full of more oxygen to keep people awake longer and keep them up and keep them addicted and keep them going. know what time so what is that that's like a manipulative tactic okay but but uh comedy clubs and all sorts of entertainment venues will do uh all sorts of tricks like that too like hiding clocks and various things the idea here being
that the more fun you're having, the more money you're going to spend. That's true. But the idea there is not to get you destitute. The casino would look at this long term. They'd say it's much better for you to come in once a month and spend $2,000 than one time in a month and spend $25,000 and then become destitute because then long term will make less money off of you. So that's not their intention.
do. Whereas I think with a kind of a thing like this, the target demographic are going to be the mentally ill. I mean, I don't see two ways around that. I think most of these men are going to be... highly irregular in society. The casinos do allow you, the more money you spend, you start getting hotel rooms, private jet flights to Vegas. That's usually if you win, right?
No. That's if you give them money. That's not if you win. Yeah, you can get points and things like that, right? You're called a high roller. But the idea there, too, is just to keep you at their casino versus going to another to spend your money. to make you destitute so you can't continue to spend money. Why would that make sense from a casino standpoint to make you destitute? They would prefer that you're not.
They would prefer that you just drop money every single month so over the long term they make the maximum amount, right? It's just good business. Word. I don't think the femdoms want their clients destitute either. They want them to keep spending. Well, it's baked into the pie, right? So what's baked into the pie is like, we'll never know if the things that we do to you actually do destitute.
Live from Vegas here, casinos in Vegas are resorts. They have food, entertainment, etc. They want you to have a good time. Cash out machines prominently share gambling addiction help resources. Yeah, that's good. I don't know if this came up. Yeah, but the idea here, just real quick to get back to this, is no, from the Femdom perspective...
The bankruptcy could be part of the kink. You hurting me financially is the kink. It's baked in there that they're not supposed to have any regard for that. They're supposed to be doing that if that's what the customer wants, right? So, no, I think it's a completely non-competitive model, the idea that you can just make your customer go destitute. I think that that's a very predatory behavior, honestly. Also, don't they like free drinks? That's kind of a little...
Yeah, but the idea behind the free drink is when you're drunk, you're having fun. The whole idea is fun, right? So if you're in entertainment, and Brian, you're in entertainment, so you know this, when people are having a lot of fun, they like to spend money. When they're not having fun, they don't. don't like spending money, right? That's it. But you would not want any of your customers, in this case, you're the product, whatever is the product.
You would not want any of your super chatters to go destitute super chatting you. And not just because you're a good person who would not ever want to see somebody go destitute. By becoming obsessed with super chats, but also because even from the business standpoint that would be fucking stupid How could they send in more super chats if they're destitute and can no longer take care of their
you know, family obligations and this type of thing to make more money to super chat you, right? Like that would make no sense ultimately. No, it's true. It's true. I mean, I... Only want people to support if they can and they have the means. One of them said that they were going bankrupt. Would you cut them off from donating? Absolutely. I've actually sent back. Um...
I've actually sent people back. We were like, oh, this last 10 bucks, but I want to support your channel. Send it back to them. Okay, good. Nick, can we go back to tweets? That's not a good policy, obviously, because people control you. And I don't think I'd ever do it. again right because there could be people who are like whoa you know they're just like trolling you to make you pay a fee or whatever so but um but yeah
You know, stupid me, right? I just have this whole issue with not wanting to see people actually get in any way damaged by the things that I do. Oh, for sure. It's integrity and karma. So I'm glad you guys do that. Well, I don't care about the karma aspect. That's all bullshit. All right.
care about the integrity aspect. Whatever you care about. Scroll back up, Nick, just so we can see. Can you read them? I could use the human ashtray right now. Have you ever used somebody as a human ashtray? No. Never. You never put a cigarette out? It does sound fun, but not. Have you ever used a? Not yet. Maybe one day? You'd hope to? Okay. Next. You maxed out your credit card on me. Okay. Has a guy ever maxed out his credit card on you? I'm not sure. Probably, yeah.
Okay. Okay. Next. You're welcome for making your bank account negative. So he bought you a bunch of food and you made his bank account negative? Yeah. Okay, next. You wish. This is you, scroll down, standing on a dude. Yeah, one of my guy friends. Why did you let that happen? He was just chilling. Is that one of the pay pigs? No, he's my friend. You just stand on his... Yeah, it's all fun and games. It's all funny.
You're a fucking liar! You're a fucking liar! If a pay pig said, I'll give you a thousand dollars for you to stomp on me, you wouldn't do it? Well, yeah, I would. Oh, okay. All right. As long as we're on the same page next. Yeah. Does it ever occur to you that you'll always be a miserable broke pathetic and ugly specimen? You look faded. Do I? Okay. Next. What do you tell your wife when she asks where all your money is going?
Do you have a lot of customers who are married? Probably. Okay. Next. Fuck all you bum broke losers. Now send me your savings. All the savings. Oh, yeah, you did say you would bankrupt a guy. That's right. Okay, next. Give me all your money right now, brookie boy. All the money. Okay, next. Give me all your money. Always be perfect and always be an ugly pig. Are these all going to be mine?
Because hers are way worse. Yeah, we got more. We got more. Okay. Okay. Yes. Simps love... Oh, just read it if it's yours. Simps love taking me and my friends shopping. It's the video that you already saw. Oh, we already saw this one. Okay, yeah, we already saw that one. All right, simps. Yep. Breaking Roses like your bank account. Damn. Can I ask a question? Yes. I mean, you girls are young. You're 18. But how long do you intend to do this? And do you have a long-term career plan?
Like, do you have a passion? Do you have something? I mean, clearly this, hopefully this is not your passion in life. This is not what sets your soul on fire, and hopefully it's not your purpose. Like, what is your long-term plan, or do you even have one? TTS is 100, by the way. Go ahead. I'm not planning on doing it for that long. And my end goal would probably be something like in real estate. or cosmetology, something like that. Okay. I was going to say that. Okay.
Can I ask you guys, I mean, there's a lot of stuff to get to. Just a quick thought here. Andrew has said this before. I mean, it's, well, it's been said before even Andrew. It's from the Bible. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Does that resonate with you guys at all? I'm not religious. Well, even if you're not religious,
Even something that's found in a religious text. Could there be truth to it? Even if you don't believe in the religion. For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Are you... that to how this affects us as a person? No, no. Well, the idea here is just you can have all the material gain in the world, but if it's at the expense of the thing that makes you you, in this case, your soul.
If it corrupts the very thing that makes you the person that you are, then who cares about all the material things you gain at its expense, right? That's the idea. Do you guys ever feel bad? Do you ever go to sleep at night and feel guilty and bad for how you talk to these guys? I mean, at first, when I first started doing it, but...
Eventually I realized they choose to do this. This is what they want. They're grown men and they have done their own research and found out all these different kind of possible kinks that they could have and this was what they went with. But your initial reaction was empathy and feeling bad. Do you think that you just got jaded over time? I mean, no, because I didn't.
think too hard about how they got off to it it was just like an initial saying something mean to someone else you would think that they are hurt by it but they're not don't you feel like icky talking to them like that though Like you personally, don't you feel like shitty for talking to people like that? No. No, not at all. Well, Laura, would you agree though that you need to have a soul in order to lose it?
Absolutely. That's what I was saying. She initially felt guilty, so it's like she lost her empathy. I sold my soul. Yes. No daughters. Still no daughters. Terrifying. Excuse me? Well, I'm going to screen those girls, okay? So, yeah, that's scary, too. Hopefully they choose right. They can watch this podcast for education. Actually, I have another quote related to... Andrew, am I selling my soul by doing this podcast? Or is this on the up and up? No. The idea...
I mean, the idea here is just that you will, at the expense of morality, do things for material gain. That's just the idea. That's the very idea of the quote. It's just that you'll compromise all. It's called The Faustian Bargain. There's a great play that was written about this very thing. The idea was that you would be willing to sell your soul for materialism. And once you do that, you can't get the very thing back.
So it's like that old adage Dave Ramsey used to always say that a man will spend his entire health to gain wealth and then spend all of his wealth to get his health back, right? It's just how we value things. We make these value assessments and we fuck them up. And when you're young...
You fuck them up worse because you feel like you're invincible and immortal. You never think that age will catch up with you. You're going to be the one who doesn't age. You're going to be the one who never gets older. You're going to be the one that that never happens to. And it happens to everybody. And unfortunately, most people compromise their values in exchange for materialism. That's the modernity, right?
I have a best friend, actually, and a couple years ago, I mean, my friends come to me for relationship advice quite often, so I only know about what femda is when they first said it, because my friend came to me and she said, I started seeing this guy, and he... literally has this weird fetish he told me after a month or so. And she was showing me the text. I'm like, it's like...
It was just graphic, funny, sad. He sent her a picture and he was like, tell me it's so small you can't even use it. It was so sad. And she was just like... She said she felt like shit inside. She was like, I can't do this anymore. He sent me so much money, but I feel like, crap, what should I do? And I'm like, you should stop.
Absolutely. If you feel like crap, then it's not like, tell him you're not the girl for him, you know? And she was like, yeah, like it's hard because he is giving me money and I'm trying, but like, I can't like sleep a night. And I was like, if you can't sleep a night, you should stop. Wait, Andrew, I got a question for you. Yeah, I didn't really mean to make it into like a virtue signal thing. I'm not saying you're virtue signaling. I'm just saying...
I'm just trying to explain kind of what the principle is. I think everybody, for the most part, at least in the West, is going to come to various crossroads of choice where they'll have the choice in which they can compromise. the very belief structure that they have in exchange for some type of material possession that they desire. And unfortunately I think in modernity most people will compromise. that morality for that material possession. I think that that is far more common than not.
And I think in modernity that women suffer from this far more than men, which is why I consider men to be more virtuous than women. It's not because I hate women or think that women bad. I think that they're wired towards security, and because of that, it's far easier to compromise them when it comes to an exchange of morality.
for material possession. If you want proof of this, see Eve in the Bible. Then you'll understand where I come to this conclusion. So, just saying. I have a quote for you, Andrew. I have a quote for you. And I want... Want to know if this impacts you? Because sometimes I think about this quote, and I'm like, yeah. Okay, so whoever fights monsters... should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you.
Yeah, so that's modern Western philosophy stolen from Easterners who don't understand the distinction between essence and energy. But the thing is, is that, no, you stare into the abyss long enough where you dance... But the other way to say this, you dance with the devil, the devil doesn't change, devil changes you.
This is actually antithetical to Christian ethics, the idea in Christian ethics being that you're always staring down at the abyss, and your job is to convert the world while you're staring down it. So no, I reject this kind of quote summarily. Another way you could say this, I've heard it said, be careful that the shadow you chase is not the one that you cast, meaning be careful the thing you're going after is not the very thing that you are.
But I think that the only thing that you can do, right, I prefer this, right, I would say it this way. Stare into the abyss and fuck them. Right? Fuck these bastards. The truth is, is that you should absolutely stare them down, hold your ground, and not take a single step back ever. Not ever.
And I think that those quotes are essentially cope. They're just trying to tell you to sidestep the issues which are in front of you in order to try to safeguard yourself from falling prey to the same types of vice. However, I think that you could be effective and not fall prey to them. The way I interpret that last quote, though, isn't so much like to run from a fight. It's more so if you're involved in a certain...
If you're engaged with something, this thing has the capacity to scar you in some way so as to damage you. Yeah, it's everything. That's the problem with it, right? There's no singular activity that you can fall into that doesn't have that capacity. Think of something as simple as eating ice cream.
But if you eat too much ice cream, it has the potential to scar you. Same thing, play the guitar. But if you play the guitar too much, it has the potentiality to consume you. This is just a basic truth about almost any activity that you can engage in. And so I think that the opposite is true. I think that the abyss is the thing we're always all staring into. And the trick is to just not get sucked into it regardless of that. Okay.
Let's get through the tweets if we can. Read it, please. It should be your head in the toilet. Bruh. Roth underscore PSA donated $100. Brian, willing to sell your lint roller for financial gain. What are limits people should go to in order to excel? Is it only built on reputation? professionalism and hard work where's your prada bag i'll sell the lint roller
I'm also selling Kiki back there for a Bitcoin. Bitcoin's at an all-time low. So if you want to buy Kiki, I will sell Kiki for a Bitcoin, if anybody's interested. Has Kiki been used, though, Brian? Her chastity is intact, Andrew. Don't worry. She can go to chastity intact. She's a virgin. She's a virgin. All right, next one. Head should be in the toilet, though. Okay. Oh, this is you. Can you read it, please? Oh, into the mic, into the mic. Relaxing on my... Put it back, Nick.
Relaxing on my human footstool in a mansion while draining losers online right now. My life is perfect. Next. I'm in a mansion while you lose it. Send me your last dollar. Disavow next. I'm just an 18 year old girl partying in a mansion while old men work for me. I can't believe this is my life. Scroll down a bit. Okay, next.
You niggas are retarded if you think I'm not worth your whole bank account. I mean, look at me. Scroll down. Is this a video? Play the video, guys. Why not? Fuck it. Play it. Mute it. Play it. That definitely wasn't muted. Okay. Okay. Scroll back up again. If you think I'm not worth your whole bank account. Chat, is she worth your whole bank account? I mean, look at her. Okay, next. Solid eye roll, by the way. I see everything. Ugly girls. Make it smaller, please.
Ugly girls have to work hard for minimum wage while I post a selfie and make their paycheck in a day. Life is so unfair. Sad emoji. Okay. It was directed towards someone. Next. I actually just make it bigger then. 6K in a week for being pretty. Send me more worms. You mean 6K in a week? Yeah. Life on easy mode Damn 18 6k in a week life on easy mode, bro. Do you think you have life on easy mode? Right now? What do you mean? When you get older, is it going to change? Definitely.
I mean, it's not consistent. Yeah, that's kind of similar. Look, you either have original shit to say or you quote The Dark Knight, right? Stoic Roman, thank you for the TTS, man. Really appreciate it. Good movie, by the way. Good movie. Good movie. Next. For favor. Bow down and give me all of your cash. All the cash? All of it. Okay, next. Every bill.
Boys that shut the fuck up and do whatever I say. Wow, that's really toxic of you, Kylie. So toxic. See, look, she wants me to shut the fuck up. Shut up. the fuck up. Good times. Next. Pretty pink goddess ready to drain all your money. Scroll down a bit. Okay. Next. I don't know why you literally think you can DM me without paying. There's a tribute you have to pay before DM me. Next.
Oh, that's it? How much does a guy have to pay you for a DM? Thirty. Dollars? Okay. Nick, if you can pull up the other ones, too. But you can X out of all those, I guess. Let's see. Let's get into some other pre-show notes here. We have, so let's see. One sec, guys. Sorry, I'm just getting caught up here. She's off. She's not at the table right now. Okay, I'll just go to Kai then. Kai, yes, my first ex cheated and got DV charges. This is new. Is this the one that...
Oh, this was my first one. Oh, this is a different guy? Yeah. Okay. On you or somebody else? Like he cheated on me. No, the DV charges. Was it on you or somebody else? Yes, on me. Were you smacking him around too, or was it one way? Well, I was trying to get him off of me, and I lost the fight. Okay. Also, your second cheated, robbed you. We talked about that.
You have a debt contract. What's that? A debt contract? In what context? You have a debt contract. It's on your link tree. Oh, yes. Okay, so... guys will sign up for a certain amount of money they want to be in debt to me for. They choose the time they want to pay it off, and then they choose how much they're going to send me weekly.
Some of these guys like to be blackmailed, so they will send me personal information, like their wife's phone number, their kids, all of that. I've never actually had to blackmail anyone. It's just like they get off to the thought of being threatened with it. It's really weird. That's crazy.
Isn't that just like mental illness at that point? That's why I don't really like to add the blackmail part into it. But you said they do. It's too real. Well, I've never actually blackmailed someone though. Wait, you haven't actually like... Gone through with the black man? No, I haven't. No, but you've accepted, like they give you the phone number. Yeah. So you accept it. Yeah. But you've never contacted the wife. Yes.
So you do engage in the blackmail kink. I have, but I don't like to anymore. What's the application fee for your debt contract? $100. Yeah. Okay. And then you said that, what the, was that a little John? Or no, not. Okay. Okay. You said you hate hookup culture. I do. Mike underscore Fleming donated $100. I'd be curious to know how they learned the whole scheme. Who taught you to predate on the mentally ill? Cheers to Brian and Andrew.
Hey, yo, Mike. That's actually a damn good question. Who mentors you into this behavior exactly? Where do you find it? Because you're mentoring the girl next to you. Who mentored you? Did you have like a friend or something like that? No. It's all me. You came up with the whole thing yourself? You're not part of like some femdom sub-community of girls who talk about all this shit all the time? Wait, by the way, Andrew, it's just...
It's a fin-dom. F-I-N. F-I-N, whatever. A woman, woman, women, woman. Yeah. Hey, look, I'm sorry. I don't have all the D-Gen terms correct. Okay. I did like, what do you want me to say? My cool power is not nearly as yet righteous as long paladins donated $100.02. The sad thing is, as a man who makes $200k a year,
I would absolutely be willing to support a woman 100%. She'd never have to work or find other simps, but I've never found a woman worthy of it. He's talking about wifey material. Or paladins. does she like does she just like not know how to play like world of warcraft like does she uh what's that term she uh Oh, what's that term where you walk backwards? Moon dance? No, no. I don't think any of you will know it. What is it called?
Chad? Yeah, I'm sorry. Can we get back to how you're dunking on me for my cooncabulary here? Okay, Brian. Keyboard turner? How am I supposed to know every degenerate turner? What? Sorry, what? I said, well, you're coming down on me pretty hard about my coomcabulary. I'm disappointed. And the fact that I don't know. No, I just wanted to make, just so you're saying the right word. I was looking out, Andrew. I was looking out for you. I'm looking out.
Is it finndom? Financial domination. So it's not like fem feminine dominates. Is that a thing? Fem feminine? I'm sure it is. That is a thing too. That is a thing too. Guys, please stop simping. Oh wait, Anissa, read it. Go ahead. Guys, please stop simping for these girls. Work on yourself and stop being so... Oh, I know what it is. It is... Wait, shit. me love you long time horny all right how at 18 or even before did you girls find out about like finndom i mean it seems like a pretty
As Andrew was saying, it's a small population who do this. So, I mean, when did you find out about it? How did you decide, like, yeah, this is the kink I want to do? Like, I just... I find it strange that 16, 17-year-old girls know so much about sexual kinks. I mean, I guess it's the world we live in, but it's unfortunate. I saw Fendom being portrayed on Euphoria.
I don't know if you've seen that, but the character Cat. Yes, I've seen that show. There was, like, that one scene where she had a picture. Backpedaling and keyboard-turning noobs. That's that is what that's what the backpedaling it's backpedaling and keyboard turning also clickers. Is she a clicker? She clicks on spell. She doesn't fucking key buying that shit. Sorry. Go ahead
I honestly lost my track of thought. You said you got into femdom from the show Euphoria because the girl Kat does it. I also honestly saw on TikTok this girl post. bully men for money and I tried it out as like a little side hustle and I ended up actually being good at it and making a lot of money so I quit both of my jobs for it. Oh, wow. We must direct men towards the brighter, towards the righteous path.
We need to tell these men, we need to tell these, look, blame on both sides here. Yeah. Reject modernity, embrace masculinity. It's muted. Rude. Okay, anyways, tweets? Almost done. Okay. Oh, that's fine. That's fine. Let's see. Penny, my ex had cheated on me for the whole nine months that we were together, then proceeded to threaten to delete himself after you broke up with him. Oh, sorry. Oh, you're right. Wow. Okay, threatened to delete you after you broke up with him. That's a yikes.
He also hacked your Instagram account and posted private stuff on there, as well as texting multiple people about himself. Yes. Did you get a restraining order? I got an order of protection. protection order yeah yeah same same difference same difference is he still in trying to like talk to you or is he out of the picture no he's
In jail? Oh, yeah, he did text me that you missed me one time. And he deleted it before I could screenshot it. Remember that time you threatened to kill me? Yeah, literally. Motherfucker? Okay. You ready, Nick? All right, Kylie, we got some of your tweets. Okay. The only way I'll allow my shoes to be clean is with a pathetic man's tongue. Scroll down.
It's my dirty shoe. Has a guy ever done that? Licked my dirty shoes? Yeah. There's a video on my Twitter. There's a video? I don't know if we have it, but okay. Oh, friend zoned him so hard that he pays for my dates with other men. What a cuck. Can I ask a question for Kylie? Yeah. So when you started Hate a Man, when you knew that he cheated you or before? No, I started this while we were still together.
When you were still together? I don't actually hate men. What did you say? Can you repeat again? I started Fyndom while me and my ex were still together and I do not actually hate men. You're a fucking liar! You're a fucking liar! Whatever. Whatever. And what is your relationship with your dad? You also hate your dad? Yeah.
Are you still talking together? Or do you know him? I have not talked. I've been in contact with him. Do your parents know you do this? Well, I don't talk to them, so. Neither of them. Neither. With mom also? That's pretty obvious based on the behavior that there would be. Do your parents know, Penny? My mom, yeah. She does. I don't know my father. What does your mom say about it? She...
Just loves me and supports me in everything that I do. Do you think it's funny? Wait, are your parents still together? No. Parents still together? No. I'll go around the table on this. No. Yes. Yes. My mom is a widow. No, but my parents divorced when I was 21. So, I mean, obviously, they're still apart, but I do feel there's a difference.
Divorcing at a very young age versus when someone is an adult. I'm not going to say it's not damaging either way, but that's my opinion. Sure. Divorced. My parents together for about four years. 40. 40. Yeah. Okay. All right. And yes, Mr. and Mrs. Wilson are still together. The Dutch Jessica Abbott donated $100. But if a man would make a TikTok about bullying a woman, he is an abuser. And a weak man.
He will be totally cancelled in the hashtag me two people that are hurting people back girl get help. I know there's differences. That's Tamara. Thank you, Tamara. Good to see you in the chat. Wait, how did... Jessica, how did you fuck up Man for Men twice? How'd you do that twice? So I think... Well, I think... I lost my train of thought. It would definitely be treated differently if men were to do this.
There's not as much, there's not much demand for it. But I think, actually, TikTok's really interesting. There are certain hashtags on TikTok. I don't recall, I discovered this like a couple years ago. There are certain like anti-male hashtags that are allowed. Like you can find videos under them, but other like anti-women hashtags are banned.
So like men, I don't know if this is exactly the one and maybe they changed it because I last checked this two years ago. I think it's the hashtag. I could be wrong. It's been a while. Men suck. Hashtag men suck. Totally fine. You can find videos under it. Women, hashtag women suck. It's banned. Like you can't, you can't post videos under that. I'm sure there's probably more, but it's interesting. TikTok is very biased platform.
So if you were a man doing this sort of stuff, I honestly think you'd be banned on TikTok. Maybe on TikTok. Definitely, TikTok soup has a major bias. So anyways, let's get through the tweets. You white boy losers wish. Laughing emoji. Damn, you got a problem with white guys or what's up? No comment. It's because your ex? Yeah, he ruined it for the rest of them. What kind of men do you date now? I don't know.
Like, do you have a racial preference now because of this? No, I don't. I was just kidding. Wait, you can't say it on camera? Is that what you whispered to your friends? No, nothing. So do you have a, it's okay if you, I actually don't have objections to racial preferences when it comes to dating. I think it's fine. I don't have one. You only date black eyes? No, like if you're hot. Hail and well met. Lol Paladins donated $100.02.
In China, TikTok wouldn't promote that kind of behavior. TikTok is literally a tool for them to help destroy Western civilization. That's not a conspiracy theory. It's just reality. Wait, there's something weird. Nick, can you scroll down in the sources tab here for me? Can you go center zoom for me? Oh, can you enable discord? Hold on, I'll do it. Oh, okay, that was weird. I don't know what was going on there. Next tweet.
For context, this is the popular 6'5", alpha male, dominating all the sports from my old high school. Scroll down. Oh, yeah, that's him. Connor is his name. His name's Connor. The football guy? I'm exposing him, yeah. Wait, why? Not the D1. Did he screw you over or something? No. Not his last name. Connor's just a regular name. He's just watching. I mean, people, internet, D1. He's watching.
He's watching? Yeah. He's appreciating the shout out. If you are watching, I'm going to fendom you, you fucking piece of shit. You fucking simp. You fucking disgust me. You're a fucking 6'5 D1. Is he a fucking quarterback? No, not D1. Oh. Oh, Seattle Community College. Fucking. Fucking not even the division. It's what, Division 5? What is it? It's a city college. It's not even the division. It's not even the NCAA.
You fucking, how could you, you fucking piece of shit, fucking 6'5", how are you going to let a girl step on your balls, dude? Girl, have some balls. Don't let her step on your balls. It does not affect their fertility. What's his fucking name? Connor. Connor. Yeah, I can make them infertile. Yeah, I can. His name's Connor? His name is Connor. Listen, Connor, you better send me. I'm gonna fucking bankrupt you, you fucking piece of shit. You motherfucker.
I swear to fucking God, you fucking disgust me. You fucking cocksucker. You fucking cocksucker. You're paying a girl. How much fucking money for the step on your fucking balls? You fucking piece of shit. I swear to fucking. God, if I ever see you, I'm six foot one. You're six foot five. I'll still smack you in the fucking face, you motherfucker. That was good. Now listen up, you fucking piece of shit. I'll tell you this.
I will fucking tell you this, Connor. He's getting off of this right now. I know. Funny how? Funny how? You... Funny? I'm funny to you, fucking Andrew? You think I'm fucking funny? Oh shit. Oh shit. I will fucking... Become the coach of your bullshit fucking community college football team. I'll fucking cut you from the fucking program. I had a really good one, but then it slipped my head. That's pretty good.
It's okay. See, I could Fyndom. Yeah, you can. I could do it. You definitely can, yeah. It can also be like the race play. I like this new arc of whatever. I do like the new arc of whatever. The D-Gen. Brian, Fyndom. The ladies in the chat, he is willing to take all of your money. He will rack up your credit and he will treat you like dog shit. I mean, just the worst you've ever been treated. Promise he'll do it for you.
I had a really good one, but I totally forgot it. I fully support this program, by the way. I had such a good one, but I just forgot it. Okay, anyways, next tweet, I guess. Normalize kicking random men in the balls simply because they are a man. Just like imagine walking down the street and you just see me come and kick you. You mean aggravated assault? You'd make them infertile.
Honestly, no. I think that's a crime. Yeah. Bro, imagine if a dude was like, all right, wait, pull it back up just so I can do the counter. Yeah. Listen, normalize fucking punching random women in the pussy. Normalize that shit. Don't clip that. Mr. Pay to Win. Dude, good to see you back in the chat. I recognize your name. Thank you for the gift of 20 subs. Really appreciate that. Next, I guess. I wasn't kidding when I said men are dogs and they're wearing my name.
Oh, your name's Kailani. That's my Fyndom name, yeah. Oh, okay. My Fyndom name is Brian Xavier III. Brian. You fucking like that shit? I bet you... Oh, hold on. That was going to be weird. I bet you like that shit. I bet you like that shit, don't you? All right, next. How can you sleep at night after robbing grown men all day? Sorry, repeat it. Sorry, I was talking. My bad. How can you sleep at night after robbing grown men all day? Scroll down. Me.
See, Andrew, we were trying to get to her. We were trying to say, ah, your soul. She's sleeping fine. She's doing great. Yeah, it looks real rough. It's like, what's that video of the guy who's like crying into the... Who cares about crying? That's going to be us soon, bro. Nick, can you Google the GIF? The guy who's like crying into like $100 bills.
Just find the gif really quick in the chat. Guys, this would be a great opportunity for you guys to go. Be sure to subscribe to Andrew's OnlyFans. OnlyFans.com slash The Crucible. you can get all sorts of spicy content on there, like Andrew demolishing feminists. Pull it over so I can see it just in the corner here. You don't have to minimize OBS. Just pull it. Like where the stream yards. Just pull it. Yeah, that one. Just get the highest quality one of that one.
All right. Take them forever. Take them. Take them. Take them. I'm taking my time here. Listen, Connor, you fucking piece of shit, motherfucker. I swear to God, if you spend one more fucking dollar on this, is he still giving you fucking money? Oh, yeah. He hasn't even taken me shopping yet. He's fucking disgusting. You fucking...
I swear to fucking God, it simps like you. Fucking simp. Bro, you're 6'5 and you play football. Just get yourself a nice little vanilla girlfriend, you fuck. You stupid fuck. Okay. Fucking Connor. Is it with an OR or an ER? OR. What a fucking loser, you fucking piece of shit. Okay. That is how I cry. That's okay. All right. Let's do the next tweet, please. Let's do the next tweet.
Yeah, this fandom thing is really easy. Who knew my dimples could make men fold so easily? You know your dimples make me weak. Well, duh. Thousand dollars. You going shopping? Good job, Boomer. Maybe. $1,000 again. Oh, so he sent you $2,000. Yes, he did. How old is this guy? He's in his 40s, actually. You call him a boomer, so. Okay, all right, next. I love degrading men the same age as my dad. Yeah, I get it. It all makes sense. Follow this behavior. It's fine. Next.
It's wild that people pay for maids while idiot men pay me to clean my place. So that one guy that had a footstool in the mansion, that was him. Yep. I have a lot of idiot men that want to meet me. Firstly, you must be in my 1K club to even be considered. Second, I'm not being caught with you uggos in public for any less than another 1K. Uggos. Ugly guys. Uggos, yeah. Uggos. Anissa's loving this. Anissa, sorry, my Ben. Can I just, I have a gripe when it comes to names. This is.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry, Anissa. Can we just ban names that can be pronounced more than one way? No offense, but like... I have like different family members that pronounce it differently. Anissa, Anissa... How do you say it? My mom says Anissa. My dad says Anissa. My grandma says Anissa. Oh, bro, please. Dude, you want, okay. I've told this story on the podcast a long time ago, but so what was her name?
Shit There was a girl it lost me. I lost upon a time. I lost the girl because of this Was it Cammie no fuck what was her name? Uh, shit. Hold on. Let me find the text messages. I thought you don't do one night stands. What do you mean? She, what are you talking about? What does that have to do with? I'm not sure. Here it is. Kara. Spelled K-A-R-A. Now that could be Kara or Kara. Now after I had sex with her for the first time...
You're not a virgin? Sorry, I know you like that. That's against your religion. What religion? Aren't you Christian? I thought you were. Can I not find inspiration? You've been making a lot of terrible assumptions all night. Brian's mean to women, he hates sex workers, now he's religious. Where did you come up with all this shit? Did you just like make it up? Wait, I mean, can I not find the Bible inspiring and find truth in this sacred text?
Hey, I might get there one day. Maybe Andrew's working on me. He's trying to get me to become an Orthodox Christian. He's working. He's chipping away. It's working. He's chipping away. But you could be an atheist. You could be secular. And still, you don't have to be against the religion. You could think religion is good. You could think that there's a lot of truth in the religion or in the sacred texts.
In this case, the Bible's pretty fucking based. I know, I was just wondering. The Bible's, anyways. Yeah, but where did you get the idea that Brian was a Christian? He made all these crazy assumptions all night that he hates sex workers, that he's mean to... Just all kinds of... Like, where did you come up with all this shit? Where did you come up with this? Yeah, Kehlani, or whatever the fuck your name is.
Yeah, that works. I honestly just, I thought I saw a clip of you talking about Christianity and I thought you were a Christian. Well, I can talk, I might talk about... I could talk about Buddhism. I could talk about Islam. All I said was, I thought you were Christian. I was like, you're not a virgin? Andrew's working on me. He's working on me. He's chipping away. He's chipping away.
I mean, I brought up a Bible verse earlier, but... You were talking about Kara. Oh, yeah, I'll finish the Kara thing. Yeah, and then you had sex, and then you got interrupted. Rude, Kylie. Can you apologize to me? No. That was very rude, Kylie. Okay. So Kara... Did you just assume my religion? Did you just assume my religion? I'll have you know I'm a... Kara. I believe...
In the, what's it called? I forgot. The Game of Thrones. I was going to make a fucking corny ass stupid joke. So, okay. Kara. Kara. I don't remember. Saw this girl. Dated this girl. Had sex for the first time. Then afterwards, it was like our second or third date. Sorry, Andrew, earmuffs. I know this is sensitive. After the amazing sex we had, trust me, it was good. She said that or you think? I was like, listen, I knew her name. I knew how to spell it. I knew it was K-A-R-A.
but I forgot how to pronounce it. So I was like, just, I asked her, I was like, hey, could you remind me how to pronounce your name? It's not like I thought her name was Gertrude. Like I forgot, I was mixing it up with an X. I knew how to spell it. I knew what it was. I politely sought clarification on how to pronounce it. She did not like this.
So after parting ways, I'm like, hey, you want to hang out again? And she's like, yeah, it was really disrespectful how you forgot how to pronounce my name. So. She she got we basically like she got really upset and then I never saw her again. Oh Wait, oh, I haven't sound for this hold on. Wait fuck. Where's it quick? Fuck shit. Oh either they won't sleep with you
And then there's really no need to ever call them again. Or they do sleep with you. And then there's really no need to ever call them again. That's not what happened there, but it just, yeah, I just wanted to play it because it kind of made a good movie. So she dumped me. I mean, that's kind of an L for her. Like, I still hit. Yeah, that's kind of rude of her. I'm not going to lie.
I could spell it for her. Yeah. I could, in fact, I could do it in cursive. I could even write her name in cursive, bro. And she still dumped me because I was like, how do you pronounce her name, babe? I don't want to fuck it up when I'm. Inside of you. That's really sad. Tough crowd. Tough crowd tonight. Brian, do you still not believe in marriage? I saw a clip where you were like, I don't believe in it. Are you still...
I would marry a billionaire. If there's no financial risk, I will do it. What about a prenup that can protect you? Really, why? She has to be rich for me to want to marry her. She's got to be rich. Like, big time. Not like, you know, like rich. Would you sign a prenup? No, fuck that. No? Hell no, I ain't signed no prenup. This is love.
Do you love me? I would never, by the way, all men sign a prenup if you're going to marry a woman, but I would never fucking sign a prenup if she makes more money than me. She might pull this up. Women do this too, though. Women will be like... you want to sign a prenup you think you don't fucking care about me but then like if they're making the money they'll be like
there's going to be a prenup. A smart woman signs a prenup. I signed a prenup. We signed a prenup. He makes more than me. I'm not saying all women, but I'm saying women who make money, they're smart about that shit. Like, guys will give you, like, I mean, pay pigs, right? Like, guys will just fucking, oh, they don't think about this shit, a lot of guys. Because actually, men are the real romantics. But when a woman makes money, she's smart about that shit.
But if a woman makes a lot more money, then she eventually will lose respect for her man. And when the respect is gone, so gone is a relationship. Wait, what? Does anybody know Jeff Bezos' ex-wife? Trying to get it in. Ex-wife. Ex-wife. Well, isn't she wealthy now because of him? Or was she self-married? Well, you said ex. Did they get married when she was wealthier than him?
How much money did she end up with, Brian? A lot. I think at the time wasn't it like 50 billion or something? So you want to marry her? Listen, Mackenzie Bezos, or Mackenzie whatever the fuck your new name is. I am not as toxic in real life as I am on this podcast. I would love to take you out on a... Mackenzie, if you're watching this, get your people in touch with my people. Oh my god. I'll take you on on a date. Will you pay? Or will she pay?
She's paying. She's paying for me. She's paying. I think she's in a relationship. I can steal her. I'm confident that I can land. And she gave away half of the money already. So if the woman wasn't super rich, we're not getting married. Well, I mean, yeah, because it's a great tax write-off. Darn. She's only got 30 bill now. Yeah. I guess I can't date her now. She's too poor. Do you want children? Sure. Yeah, I want children. Are you saying Mackenzie's she's a bit old?
No, I'm just saying, okay, so you still don't want to get married, basically, is the answer, unless she's super rich. Me and Mackenzie will get a surrogate. She can afford it, okay? Me and Mackenzie Bezos or whatever she was... We can get a surrogate. What if she asks you to quit the show? How much is she going to pay me? Well, you want marriage without the prenup.
To someone of that financial level. So, I mean, she determines the rules then. She says, hey, that's it. I want you at home all the time available. Kissing my feet. Oh, no. Oh, no. Whatever will Brian do? He has to stay at home as a kept man with billions of dollars and gets whatever material. I can't imagine Brian not working. He's a workaholic.
Oh, what a rough life. Oh, no. How's he ever going to live? Wait, chat. Sorry, Andrew. I didn't mean to cut you off. No problem. I'm all done with my rant. Chat. A billion dollars. But you have to stay at home? Would you do it? Yeah. I would do it. No way. Does that make me a beta male? No. That's just smart. Smart business, man. It's smart. But I feel like I've said this before and I got massive pushback from the chat. Oh no, she's a billionaire and I don't have to work.
See, because I don't think... I don't know. Whatever will I do? I can just go buy whatever I want whenever the fuck I want and have to stay at home. Say she's not a billionaire. She's just like a regular woman. I mean, the girls you date now and you date on a serious level, do they know? They're never getting a ring. They're okay with it, I assume. You still want a serious relationship, but you won't get engaged. I just want to understand. Sure.
Yeah, I mean, I've said it on the show. I can't see myself ever getting married, although I guess Andrew's kind of working on me a little bit. But this would be within like a Christian purview. No, I don't want to get married. I don't really see the point, but I mean long-term relationship. Yes. Monogamy. Yes kids. Yes
What if the woman's like, I just want to ring to show your commitment. Are you getting it for her? You know what? I would just reverse it on her with my verbal judo that I learned from debate university.com. And I would say something like. You need to show your commitment to me by not needing a ring. And then I'm just kidding. What if she just gave birth to your son or daughter?
Yeah, are you getting her a push present? That's a good question. Now you need to show your commitment to me by accepting. To the whole family, she needs to show her commitment. She's already committed. Would you get her a push present? Why do you get like a gold Snickers bar because you had a kid? Like, yeah, you're supposed to do that shit. Like, what do you mean? Oh, you can't be serious. Uh-oh. No.
Childbirth is very hard. Carrying kids is very hard. It is romantic and nice for a husband to give his wife a first present. It's a few hours of pain. It's nine months. You know what it's like? You've done it? But you had twins. That's a bit harder. Twice? Yeah, I deserve a push present. That's a bit harder. Sorry. I've had kidney stones. It's equivalent in pain. Childbirth is the most painful thing a human can go through. Look it up. Kidney stones.
Kidney stones is just as painful. There's definitely more painful shit than childbirth. Do you have children? Did you give your wife a present? No? A present for what? Wow. That's sad. I'm sorry. That's really sad. Oh, did you want to tell her? Did you want to tell her how sad you were for that? Didn't give her a fucking present for having the baby? Like women and men are not equal. I really believe that we're different. So it's like, you know, my husband would.
If he could carry the kid, but he can't. So it's like we're different biologically. So you can show your appreciation for a major sacrifice that a woman's body goes through and the pain she goes through delivering your children. They wouldn't be there without her by giving her...
a present i'm not saying you have to give her a diamond ring but like i'm sorry who donates the genetic material and also the man's sacrifice so he's so like for instance i didn't say you don't do anything but you should have some appreciation for your wife Pregnancy and delivering your child. Do you want to hear the argument or do you just want to spur a gal? You tell me. Go ahead.
Okay, great. So let me explain it to you so that you understand, right? So women in the younger years, right, maybe tell the kid is of school-going age. If you get to stay at home with your kids, yeah, that's a great privilege for you in modernity. It's a great privilege for you to be able to stay at home with your kids. It's a great privilege for you to be able to do that, as most women cannot. The man sacrificed, he should be getting the fucking present.
Your gift is that you get to stay at home and most women in modernity are not able to stay at home. You think your man, get him a fucking gift because it's through his sacrifice you even get to do what almost no woman in modernity can. Stay at home.
their own children and by the way it's not that hard by the time they get to school going age they're gone for most of the fucking day anyway it's not a rough gig okay i never thought it was a rough gig like you can do mutual appreciation but i've also
I've worked. I've supported myself my entire life. And only recently did he say, I want you to cut back from work and spend more time with the kids. And you're right. That absolutely is a privilege. It's a gift. Absolutely, absolutely. But I appreciate him too. You changed the topic. So did I get her a gift? I think I gave her the greatest gift you could give her. Good child. Okay.
Wait, Nick, there's a video of a guy working. You know the working video that we've had pulled up for a little bit? Yeah. Let's pull this up. Men are willing to do this so a woman can stay at home. And not have to work. Go ahead. Man, we need 50-50 representation in whatever the fuck. this guy's doing what the gmd gym donated one hundred dollars omg having children and raising them is so hard it's not like billions of women have done it oh wait
I never said raising them was hard. I said that is a gift. I just said going through pregnancy and childbirth is... is is hard i'm not gonna say it's not hard like also i had an illness during pregnancy i had hyperemesis so i threw up 25 times a day lost 35 pounds in both pregnancies from the hormones of the twin pregnancy i almost miscarried the babies twice
My situation is definitely a little bit different. I did not have easy pregnancies. I had to go... Yeah, but not really. I feel like you're kind of just changing it around, right? So at first it was like... Here's what happened at first, and I got it right here in my notes. See, I keep looking down and taking notes, but what you said was, oh, my God, LNG, you didn't get your wife a present?
Oh, my God. She had your... Wait. I didn't say that. I asked you if you got her a present. That's not what I said. That's not how I sound better. Andrew, opportunity here. We got Rachel Wilson. A little quick 15-minute cameo from Miss Wilson. I think she's asleep now. Pull it up, Nick. She's in the chat. Please tell her I hate the idea of push presents. My children are the gift. Motherhood is the prize. We have Rachel Wilson in the Echetta. You can hide it.
Yeah, I'll ask her. That's your opinion. I think it managed to at least get her flowers. I just think men should be romantic in that way, but that's my opinion. Yeah, okay, but I mean, I'm just saying... That was how it was presented. How it was actually presented before the backpedaling began was that I was a rotten human being.
Because I did not... Did I ever say that to you? I never said your... Yeah, you did. No, I did not. I asked you a question. Oh, my God. I can't believe you wouldn't do that. What a monster. Oh. That's not what I said. I said, did you get her a present? I asked you. Did you get her a... I said, that's sad. That's my opinion. I can't believe that. She would wreck her body and do all of that. I didn't say that. Roll the tape down. That's not what I saw. Your inner feminism just went crazy.
so yeah it did it did you were you were definitely very very like demeaning towards the not getting her the present part right Like, what should I have gotten her? What do you think I should have gotten her? Should I have gotten her like a little card and just said, hey, thanks for having my baby. Like, what should I get her?
What would be better, a better gift for her? How about you can stay at home for the rest of your life with the children? What better gift could I have gotten her than that? That's your opinion. No, no, no, I'm asking you, what better gift could I have gotten her than that? No, that is a gift that could be considered a gift, but...
I also think there's nothing wrong with showing appreciation to the mother of your children and giving her a gift. I never said, get her a small gift. That's just my opinion, that men should still be romantic and give their woman a... You know, a push present for having a baby. That's my opinion. A push present. Yes. Okay, so if I get kidney stones, do I get a push present?
Did you deliver a baby with your kidney stone? Yeah, I don't understand. Why is that the requirement? What is the present for? I'm just asking. What did you give her with the kidney stone? Nothing. What's the gift for? For bringing your child into the world. Yeah, that required his genetic material and then the rest of his life to rear. No, I understand that, but you're not going through the same physical pain and birth like the woman. Oh, no, you go through fucking absolute anguish for...
18 solid years busting your ass, right? No, it's actually more like 25. They usually stay at home for 25 years now before they even launch because they have to be on your insurance and everything else. And you bust your ass for 60 hours a week. Plus, every single fucking day to make sure that you can make ends meet. Yeah, I would take all that pain and just reduce it to one day to never have to work again. I would be fine with that.
But not all men do that. That's great you're a provider, but not all men do that. There's a lot of 50-50 men. Yeah, well, I guess your 50-50 dude can go get you a fucking... I don't have a 50-50 dude. I'm just saying, like, you're saying, like, you sacrifice so much providing, but, I mean... Why does he need to get you a push present? I mean, girl, back me up. You would be happy if you gave birth and a guy got you nothing, not even flowers? Yes. I wouldn't. She will get five minutes of my time.
Maybe I'll be there in the delivery room with her and I'll say good job and then go finish my pizza. You know what else, too? I'm a gentleman. I'm a nice guy. I care about my women. So how about this? How about everybody makes a big fucking deal over Mother's Day, right? All the women make a big deal over Mother's Day.
Father's Day comes along, nobody gives a shit. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Your afterthought. I care. Nobody cares. I care. I do care. Before you start chiming in, can I finish my point here? Nobody cares.
gives a shit. They don't. That's the reality. You're going to say you're the exception to the rule. Every woman you talk to, they're the exception to the rule. But the truth is, is that I doubt it. I'm sure that Mother's Day in your house is a way bigger deal than Father's Day is in most households. Right. Same thing with birthdays. Same thing with all of those types of celebrations. Usually mama gets treated well. Daddy gets the short end of this. That's usually how it goes.
You're making assumptions about my family. That's absolutely not true. You're making assumptions about your family. I'm talking in generalization. Don't you agree with me that it is true that men generally, nobody's making a big fuss about them over their birthday. They're not generally making a big fuss about them. They're not generally making a big fuss about them during celebrations, but rather everything is tailored towards women and the gimme the present, right? Gimme all the presents.
Wait, show me how much you love me. Be romantic. Show of hands at the table. Do you guys think when a woman gives birth, she should get a push present, so-called... Physical? Like a physical present? Any kind. Yeah, like, uh, yeah. Just a show of hands. Should a woman get a push present? Something. Flowers. A small gift. Not anything major. Why not? No push present? You know what?
I think what's really unfair to kind of relate it to the push present thing is I don't get a present. Oh, my God. This is going to be a bit. Can you justify my answer, though? Wait, one sec. One sec. Andrew, earmuffs. Pale and well met. Low Paladins donated $100.02. Andrew has a great point. Without a dad, you end up like these whores in seat number one and number two prostituting themselves on the ground for attention. Thank the dads for keeping daughters off the stripper pole.
She was a hooah. B, she was a hooah. Law paladins. Come on, man. Be nice. I think men should get... I don't know if it's a push present, but it always bothered me. Y'all can have multiple orgasms, and I don't get a thank you when y'all come like 20 times. in the span of 15 minutes, and I only get to come once. It's very unfair. I think I deserve a little present. You know? For coming?
No, not for me. I think I get a little present. Every time we have carnal knowledge, you should pay me money. Wait, now I'm a prostitute. Fuck. Yeah, you are. But Brian, you would be getting satisfaction if a woman came 20, 30, 40, 60 times. In a matter of a few minutes. Come on. You would feel yourself. Oh. Look, don't get me wrong. I like it when a girl comes. Don't get me wrong. But I'm just saying, I only get to come once. Wait, wait. They do that?
Yes. Wait, what? Women? What do you mean? Oh. Wait, what? I didn't know that. That women orgasm? Or that... Yeah, they do. My husband can give you some tips. Andrew's a... Andrew's a sex-appropriation... I thought it was race, and you were supposed to finish first. I thought that's... No? I'm way off base? We're talking about multiple orgasms. I think Andrew has a point here, though.
Isn't that the point? Yeah. You're supposed to finish first, right? It's a race. It's a race. I don't think so. It's whoever finishes first gets to finish. I just think that it's really unfair. I think it's really unfair that y'all are over here having fucking multiple orgasms and your legs fucking twitching. Wait, what? Chill out, Nick. What the fuck? I don't know, bro. I'm just saying these chicks, their legs are like fucking twitching. They're like...
They're like having a fucking seizure and shit. Are you fucking tasing them, Brian? Like, what's going on here? Are you tasing these women? You know what? That is a kink, actually. Some women like that. Don't kick. And for all you ladies out there, he will tase you for the right price. Don't kink shame, Andrew. Don't you kink shame. I carry a taser with me whenever I have a sexual encounter. Just in case.
As well you should. I also bring pepper spray, too, in case she wants to be crying. No, officer, that's why she's crying. Just kidding. I'm kidding. GMD Jim donated $100. My mother pushed out five of us with no push presents. The present is that for the last 28 years since our father passed away, we have kept her in the lifestyle that she had been accustomed to.
Seems like a pretty good present. Yeah, she raised you right. Thank you. Thank you, Jim. You know what's crazy? Whatever. Thank you, Jim. Appreciate it. Not related to your thing. Good to see you in the chat, Jim. Appreciate it. We've got to get through the tweets. But before we do, we need to also go to Twitch. Guys, you got to go to twitch.tv slash whatever. Drop us a follow and a prime sub. Twitch.tv slash whatever. Drop us a follow. Guys, it's been.
One hour since the Prime sub? I think it's... Boys, I think it's bug day. Boys, I think it's bugged. I think it's bugged, boys, if somebody can test out the Prime sub. Thank you very much. Also, go to discord.gg slash whatever. Because we had a kickoff earlier. It's very rare we actually do kickoffs. Normally, it's like rage quits and stuff. We did a kickoff. I'm going to post the BTS of that. She tried to... falsely accused Desmond and Austin and me of heinous crimes against humanity.
So I'm going to post the BTS of that probably later tonight or tomorrow. So be sure to join discord.gg slash whatever. Just join, just join guys. It's a good little discord. Okay. Okay. All right. Tweets. Tweets. Tweets. We got some tweets. Nick likes to wear orange. Whoa. Kailani. Read this for us. Asian brats own white boys. What does that mean? Oh, that's your sis? Yes, that is my sis. Okay.
What do you mean owns white boys? We own them. Like we enslave them. Like you're fucking playing Starcraft and like you're Zerg and they're like fucking Protoss and you fucking like Zerg rush them. Like you send some fucking Zerglings and you fucking smoke their base in like three minutes.
Yeah. Like, you fucking pone them. Yes. Like, do you just, like, do, do you, are you, like, BMing? Like, do you do BM, like, like, GG well played, even though they're, like, you fucking, like, smoked them? Good game, yeah. Like, do you know Command and Conquer Generals? I do not. So, like, you're playing, like... Like, you're playing, like...
You're playing USA, right? Like USA. And you're playing against like GLA or China. And like you put a bunch of like Rocketman into the Chinook or whatever. And you send it over to the base like a little Chinook Rocketman thing. Or are you more like... Like Humvee, what's the meta that you play in generals and shit? I have my own strategy. Yeah, but so you own them in the game, right? Yeah. I can have them.
Like, do you have a scud missile and you fucking just scud missile the shit out of the, like, the fucking, like, you do the scud missile hack, right? Yeah. Obviously. Don't we all? Yeah. By the way, Command and Conquer Generals. 2004, 2005, one of the best RTS games fucking ever made. Who was, was it EA Sports? They fucking, oh my God, bro. RIP, Command and Conquer Generals. Next tweet. Normalize locking men in cages. Justify this. Do you know what a chastity is? A chastity belt?
No. I know what it is. You know what it is? What is it? EA Sports. Sorry, it wasn't EA Sports. It was just Electronic Arts. They ruin all their franchises. Go ahead. Do you know what a chastity is? A chastity? A chastity. Chastity belt? No. A chastity. A chastity. Do you just know what a chastity is? Chastity? Chastity. Chastity. No, chastity. Chastity. No, what is that? It is a cage that... men will put on their thing to make it shrink. How do you spell it? C-H-A-S-I-T-Y. Chastity.
C-H-A-S-I-T-Y? I think so. Yes. Chasity. Yes. And you said it's a cage? Yes, it's a cage for your dick. Don't pull it up. So there's a chastity cage. Chastity. Chastity. Chastity or chastity? She's been using this word wrong the entire time. Maybe I have. Chastity? Okay, alright, whatever. So you want them in a body cage or just the chastity cage? Just the chastity cage. For their junk. Okay, cool. Next. Only 18 years old and I make grown men cry for fun.
You see how far the termites have spread and how long and well they've dined. Does that work in reverse? Can you be like 40 years old and make 18-year-olds cry for fun? That seems fair. Isn't that what we do, Andrew? I mean, I don't know about we, but I mean, you're a damn kid, right? You're 35, right? It's true. It's true. It's true. It's true.
You got your best years ahead of you, right? That's right. I do. And me, I'm over the hill, right? I'm like, I'm half dead, basically. Don't say that, Andrew. Yeah. You look younger for your... Yeah, not a day over 39. Not a day over 39. Next. Whoa. Imagine we each took turns kicking you in the balls. I'd rather not. Why not? Sounds fun. I'd rather not.
Have you tried it before? No. You should. Brian, I don't know if it's all right, but I'm three hours ahead on East Coast. I'm fading. It's been fun chatting with you guys, but I'd love to depart. Hey, and well met. Law Paladins donated $100.02. Chastity belt for men is literally thousands of years old. You aren't new or cool or uniquely degenerate.
Learn to speak English. Listen, she reads at an 11th grade level, okay? First off, little paladins. Did somebody fart? Little paladin, she's only 18. She's going to make you cry. Somebody. I'm sorry. Did somebody really just say that? Don't you know the counter? It's like whoever denied it supplied it. Oh, boy. Wait, but Andrew was going to have a debate with you about patriarchy, and we haven't gone to your notes. Can we get you a little Red Bull to keep you here?
Would you like it? Yeah, if you're down to ask me questions, I'm down to answer for a bit longer, for sure. Well, I think we can get you an energy drink if it is helpful. I feel like I'm going to have a heart attack. There's so many chemicals in that. Now I smell chicken. Desmond! Wait, you actually got chicken though. Oh, okay. It's like, I mean, maybe, okay. All right.
Kailani, do you want to tell us something? Was it you? Why are you accusing me? I just, I don't know. You got a very guilty look on your face. You look guilty, Kailani. I'm just sitting here. We'll get into your nuts in just a moment. What's up? All right, look at that Yeah, you can just like better to drink rocket fuel
So many. Yeah, I know. It's a lot. All right, let's get through. How many more tweets are there? I want to try to get through them. Okay, we'll do it quick. We'll go quick. We're going to rapid fire. Nick, we're rapid firing. I agree. Listen, I don't think it's boring. I think it's interesting. I think it was cool for the first 45 minutes and then it's like, okay, we get it. They degrade men. It sucks. Look, I have autism and I'm very thorough.
Okay. Do you actually? Can you not be insensitive to my autism, please? Okay, let's continue. I feel attacked. I feel hurt. I thought we were homies. Are you not my homies? I thought you were my... Hold on. I am your homie. I'm still on base things. This has gone on a little long with the tweets. That's just my view. I agree. I am upset, Laura. I am hurt, Laura.
I thought you were my Caucasian. I am. Are you my Caucasian? Laura, are you my Caucasian? I agree with you on many points. Laura, are you my Caucasian? Sure. Are you my Caucasian? What does it mean? White person. Am I a white person? I am. Are you my white person? Are you my Caucasian? Like meaning that I support you? Are you my Caucasian? Meaning that I support you? I'm trying to understand. I can't do this with like Kazakh.
English is her second language here. Okay. I can only do this with Americans. Brian, I support you, but... Well, you're Asian, so sorry. I mean... You can't be my Caucasian, is what I'm trying to say. I support you, but I understand already her...
opinion, and, like, it's... It is interesting how many, like... It's interesting, but I've already understand, like, what Hermione... It's a little redundant. It's redundant. It's the same tweets, basically. Here's the thing. I didn't... want to announce this I wanted to wait until the 2025, but I'm actually renaming the whatever podcast to the beat a dead horse podcast. So I'm sorry, but it's a good name. I am renaming it to the beat a dead horse podcast. So we are going to be.
the dead horse, but are you my Caucasian? Are you my Caucasian? You're my Caucasian? Yes. Aren't some of you from, you're from the Caucasus, right? Isn't that Kazakhstan? Kazakhstan, yeah, actually. She's literally my Caucasian. She's from Kazakhstan, the Caucasus. I'm going to be a non-American Caucasian. Let's leave. Statistically, is it bad? Morgan, are you my Caucasian? Sorry, she's the last white person here. You're half white, so are you half my Caucasian? Anissa, say it. Yes. No, say...
Yes, Brian, I am half your Caucasian. Say it. It's okay. I'll give you, or you could, but okay. Tweets? We'll get through them quick. Read it, Kailani. You are nothing but a human ATM to hot, entitled brats. You do look like a brat, though. Next. By the way... Oh, go ahead, read it. My ex literally has my name tatted on his neck, and you want to question the power I have over men. He did cheat on you, though, is the thing. He's a loser.
But wouldn't the ultimate power be that he loves you so much? That he's committed fully. Wouldn't that be power? You know what I mean? No. Loser men cheat all the time. Gotcha, bitch! I'm sorry. Beyonce got cheated on. And Rihanna. It doesn't have anything to do with them. They probably deserved it. Okay, just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm going to seriously cheat on my next one just for you. I'm going to say this is for Brian. While you're doing him. Yeah, well. No.
No, after. Okay. All right. Next. How many do we have, Nick? Estimate? 20. Oh, my God. Okay, we can only commit. Okay, let's get through it. Manor at a new low. He paid $2,300 for one compliment from me. Disavow. Next. What was the compliment? I said he had nice teeth. If you're a man and you make less than me, you deserve to be pegged. Have you ever pegged a guy? I have not. Not yet. Penny? Penny the pecker. No. That's a great name for you. Okay, next. I feel like your aunt. Barry did that one.
We did? Oh, skip. Breaking a sub down so badly to the point they cry is an unmatched feeling and I love it. Sold my sword. Next. Your wife doesn't turn you on anymore, but giving away your hard-earned money to girls that don't give a fuck about you does pathetic I stand by that
I'm throwing a party today and the way I'm turning down all the ugly losers are making them pay a hundred to get in reminds me of how some of these freaks are probably getting off to that. If he doesn't want to ruin his life for me, I don't want it. Now is this a... Like an actual dating thing or a pay pig thing? It's a pay pig thing. Okay, next. Oh, it's funny. POV, every woman's reaction to that thing in your pants. Rude. You don't have to play it. X out, X out. Go back up.
No. Oh, it's fine. It's fine. Oh, yeah. Okay. Next. I will never call a man alpha, even if it's my man. I'm the only alpha. Wait, so is this a dating thing or a pay-pay thing? Everything's a pay-pay thing. Everything. So what is it? Actually, yeah, both. This applies to both. I would never call me an alpha. I mean, girls could feel this way about dating. I don't think it's exclusive to being a fin-dum chick or whatever. Next.
I want a personal simp to order around while I'm in this mansion, licking my shoes clean as soon as I come inside. Personal footstool, a made-to-cook-and-clean, etc. Disavow. Next. Oh, next. I had to make this one. The only way I'm dating a white man is if he's 6'5", making six figures, and bigger than six inches. That's racist, bro. Connor. Connor? Yeah. Oh, that was for him. I had to make it for him.
Wait, pull that one back up, Nick, really quick. Only way I'm dating a white man is if he's 6'5", making six figures and bigger than six. What are the stats if he's Pacific Islander? I haven't determined that yet. What if he's Hispanic? I haven't determined that yet. I think it applies the same. But like European Hispanic, not like Latin America Hispanic. I still haven't determined that yet. Asian?
It's the same answer for every race that you say. Okay, next. I was just describing Connor. Aftercare. Nah, I want to permanently ruin your self-esteem and make you lose all self-respect. Disavow. Next. Ugly subs deserve to be ball-bust into infertility. You don't deserve to reproduce and pass on those god-awful genes. fucking disgusting. This kind of goes back to the injury component of the conversations we were having. So like...
Is it a thing if you do the stepping on their junk that they can become infertile? Yes, they can. Yes. It's possible. Isn't that like... I mean, I guess it's part of the kink, right? But it's like, isn't that abuse? Self-inflicted abuse. But if a guy tweeted that and said, like, because you guys... you know, do sex work basically, you shouldn't reproduce. Like that would be a terrible offensive tweet. No, I think it would be more like...
I'm going to punch a chick in the fallopian tube so many fucking times that she's never going to be able to reproduce ever. That wouldn't be okay. That's the equivalent. But you're offended if someone said that about you, right? I wouldn't care. Ladies, I will punch you in the fallopian tubes if you pay me. Yeah. Oh yeah. My DMs are already filling up. They're already filling up.
Why do you think I'm over here? Can I keep looking down? Do you think I'm taking notes? And I am, but I'm also responding to DMs from all the women who want to get sidekicked and shit because they're into this. Wait, Andrew, do you actually read your DMs? Yes, you don't read your DMs. No, I read my DMs, but I was wondering, has a woman DMed you? Because I feel like the way you just so eloquently...
and articulately just like, just fuck people up verbally. I feel like there's some chick who's DM'd you and been like, can you do that to me? Has it happened? Like in a weird sexual way? I would not comment on that. That sounds like a yes to me. That sounds like a yes to me. You heard it here first, Andrew. He obviously denied the request, but he does get women who are willing to pay him money.
I must have some kind of mass sex appeal or something because my DMs are always filled in the fucking brim with women. It's wild. Look, young Andrew, can we pull up young Andrew? Young Andrew was a good looking guy. Young Andrew was a good looking guy. Can we pull it up? But now I'm old. You're still handsome, Andrew. Don't be down on yourself. Well, thanks, Brian. Andrew, can I hear you say that you're a 10 and you're a queen? I mean king, sorry.
Andrew, say that you're a 10. Well, in the face of all of these beautiful, of course I'm a 10. If they're all 10s, I'm a fucking 10. They're all 9s, I'm a 9. They're all 8s, I'm an 8. It's all about how you feel. Do we have young Andrew? So ladies, she's a little excited over here. No, it just looks completely different. Would you hit? No. Don't be rude. Wait, into the mics, guys. Into the mics. No. Pass. Smash or pass? She loves her boyfriend.
Pass. It's so funny. You think with that picture, that Andrew, that you would ever be good enough for that guy to ever look twice at you? Yeah, fucking right. Women really think a lot of themselves. No, I'm just saying. make a lot of themselves. Like, we wouldn't even look twice at you. We'd been walking through the high school campus and been like, we just walked right around you. You would have been fucking invisible.
By the way, Andrew. You seem offended. By the way, Andrew, I just, I'm going to, is Andrew's the Crucible listening right now? Yes. Andrew, guys. Andrew's really been getting on my nerves. So I'm going to leak something. He actually used to be, you know, those Abercrombie and Fitch stores. He used to, he told me this in confidence, but I'm fucking backstabbing you, Andrew. He told me he used to work.
as one of those shirtless guys in Abercrombie and Fitch. That's how good looking he was. Sorry, Andrew. I'm sorry. I had to do it. I had to do it, Andrew. I brought it on myself. I brought it on myself. Listen, this is... I'm revealing Andrew Wilson Lore. Okay, this guy. And he went to the retreats, too, that Abercrombie and Fitch did. So he was not only was he...
A good looking in the face. He had a good face card. He also was quite well developed in the chest and abdominal region. Is this gay? Okay, my bad. In that picture, he has such deep eyes. It's almost like an old soul. Can we show young Brian, too? Can we show young Brian? Yeah. Okay. Young Brian. Really quick. Young Brian. Let's see it.
One eternity later. Gotcha, Nick. Oh, just scroll down. All right, scroll all the way down. Just scroll down. Wow. Oh, wait. Oh, no, no, no. Those are photos, whatever. Damn, I used to be thin. Fuck. Oh, my God, dude. Wait, look at... Oh, my God. Okay. Wait, scroll down. Up, up. I mean, up. Wait, the soccer Lewandowski? Damn, bro. Riz, next. Exile that. Wait, me in an angel costume? Bro, hello. Exile that. How about the tank top?
Damn bro fuck what happened? I'm busted now dude shit sucks. You grew a beard. It's more than the beard trust me. Damn dude. That's the only difference. Anyways, okay, so sorry. Okay, tweets, tweets. We've got to get through the tweets. And then we can give all the time and attention to Laura. I don't need that. I really would like to go to bed instead. Anyways, keep going with the tweets.
Ryan, can I ask you one question? Why are you giving so many attention for all these tweets? I know. I mean... Because I... I secretly like reading them. Do you like hearing me read my tweets? I already said I like to beat a dead horse, but we'll tell you what. We'll take a brief break from the tweets for three minutes. What do you want to talk about? I want to know your logic. Why are you putting so many times energy? Because I'm secretly in love with Kailani.
Just kidding. She's a journalist. She needs to know. That's what she does. That's right. I'm a journalist, too. That's interesting. Well, you know what? I understand that you're a little bored. Let's talk. What do you want to talk about? The good stuff. No, it's okay. What do you want to talk about? Why are you answering my question? Tell me. We can talk. Go ahead. Do you want to contribute to the conversation? Let's do it. Go ahead. I'm ready.
I was asking a question. Can you answer the question? Because... I went through her Twitter and I found some of the tweets that I thought were objectionable. And I wanted to confront her on her man-hating and evilness. It's okay. I forgive her, though. She can be redeemed. In fact, we're going to do a call to action at the end of the show and see if we can convert these two to Orthodox Christians. Right, Andrew? Right, Andrew? Do you think we can do it?
I have a lot of faith in God, but I'm not sure I have enough faith in us, Brian. Or are they not welcome in the club? No, of course everybody's welcome to convert to orthodoxy, of course. Okay, just checking. Okay, thank you. You're welcome. I accept your apology. Do you want to talk about something? Go ahead, let's talk. You have the floor, my dear. You mean me? Yeah, what do you want to talk about?
Yeah, change the topic. Let's go. What do you want to talk about? Go ahead. No, I just asked a question. No, I know. But you're bored with it. Because we are here for six and a half hours, so that's why. I'm just waiting. You're 100% right. You're 100% right. You've not had a lot of time to speak. Go ahead. I'm waiting. I'm bored, but I also don't have fuck all to say. Brian, I'm waiting to end this podcast.
That's why I'm asking for... Have you ever been to a bar or nightclub? Answer the question. Have you ever been to a bar or a nightclub? Yes. How late do you typically stay at the bar or nightclub? So last time it was two days ago, I think. Was it a bar or a nightclub? It was a bar. How late did you stay there till? What do you mean? How late did you stay at the bar? I think we went there at 11 p.m. and then at 12.1 we came back.
Yeah, and then came back. You're digging a hole with this one. Sorry, what time? 1.30. Two hours. Oh. Yeah, two hours, I think, yeah. Oh. He will keep you here. Oh, heaven forbid. I keep the... Oh, no. Is it past your bedtime? I am sorry. I apologize. I am sorry. Is it typically the things like this, what the girls are experiencing, more valuable to males, to gentlemen?
I'm just curious about statistically, like what is more interesting for men to hear... That's not what it is. What it is is that... Hail and well met. Lol Paladins donated $100.02. You've only spent six hours with Brian. Brian has done 195 episodes with morons like you. The master has failed more times than the apprentice has even attempted. Heaven forbid a woman put in the equivalent of a workday in a high-rise.
A high-rise apartment in Southern California. Nick, pull up that cleaning video of the guy in the sewers with the cockroaches crawling all over him. So anyway, the idea is that oftentimes, unless a woman's being interviewed or feels like she's being interviewed, she doesn't really have that much to participate in when it comes to a conversation.
And so these are like megala gold mines, these tweets, which could expand into great conversations, but nobody's really participating in it, right? And so it's like, okay, well, if that's not the topic that you want... What is the topic that you want? That's the idea, right? Oh, okay. But is it interesting for like in the chat? I'm going to move off of the meta conversation, but I mean, I would just point out like... Yeah, you're putting in a full workday. I wake up, I start work.
And then I do another two or three hours of work after this. I do a 16-hour day twice a week. And then I work 70 to 80 hours a week. So I'm sorry that I'm not here to pamper you conversationally and that you have to.
Woe is you. You've got to sit here and talk to people for the equivalent of a work shift. I do apologize for putting you through this absolutely brutal... uh brutal thing and keeping you i'm basically sleep depriving you in fact i've been accused of uh of actually doing torture on on the women here by keeping their them here for the equivalent of a work full-time work shift
I admit to my abuse that I sleep-deprived the women by keeping them here until sometimes midnight or 12.30. Did Candace Owen stay like seven hours? I'm honestly just curious. You're not Candace Elwood. I know that. I know that I'm not, but... I have a TV show on Roku. I work for Patty Stanger's company. I'm not nobody. And I'm not saying I'm Candace level at all. Honestly, just a question. Do you keep her here a really long time?
Did you keep Natalie Winters here eight hours? I stay for the duration of the show, and I have a fucking huge show. Huge show. I stay for the duration every single time. I'm happy to be here. Honestly saying, I'm on Florida time. I'm a mom. I'm different than these girls. I don't go to the club. I don't go to the club either. I think I'm the only mother at the table. I'm a mother as well. Okay. I didn't know that. You've never said that. You said you were a wife. You never said you were a mom.
I am glad to know that. I'm a business owner. I don't work for someone. I work for myself. I create the things myself. So to answer your question, Natalie Winters has been on the show three, four times. To my recollection, she stayed the entire time, all the time. Candace Owens pre-cleared it with us that she could only do two to three hours. Mind you...
She was like eight or nine months pregnant at the time, and she was on a very specific media tour, which required her to be in some other city the next day. And she pre-cleared it with us. She was also Kansas. Thank you for answering. Nobody is questioning hard work. Absolutely. You are super workaholic.
Nobody questioned that. The whole question was like, is this interesting for audience? Because that's what shows are for, right? To bring the value, to bring the interest, for people to engage them. And if it is interesting for audience... audience yeah sure I mean well I mean so I was they love it I was asking like is this the topics that actually interesting for males
to hear because most of your audience is males. The women love it too. I just don't know the demographics of your... of the viewers I just think it's interesting you know what I don't believe that there is a wage gap but if the wage gap does exist this is why
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, rounds of applause. Appreciate it. All right. Okay. So I'll take a... Well, Nick, since you're here, I want to try to blast through the tweets. How many do we have left since you're only here for a few more minutes? Okay, let's just let's just try to blast through them super quick then and then I'll get to the this over here Imagine asking me out and I brutally reject you But you are so eager to get my attention that you pay for my dates with other men
Pathetic. Next. In case you had a bad day, here's something to make it worse. What is it? Maybe audio? Yeah, you can do audio. Go ahead. Scroll up a bit, though. I'm about to buy a house by the end of the year at age 18 while you're still living with your mommy, giving me all your money. Okay, pause it. Fucking loser. Oh, actually, play? Wait, what did you say? Oh, fucking losers. Let that sink. Next. Oh, this is about Connor. Read it.
I have the biggest fuckboy from high school begging to take me shopping, debating if I should just take the 500 and block him or let him fly me out to spend another 2k. Next. Turning out. Jayakin donated $100. First world problems, how ladies? On a podcast with 4.4 million subs. Try being in a third world country being shot at.
I kind of almost compare it to if I was on Joe Rogan and he wanted to continue the conversation and it was late and I was tired, in no fucking world would I ever say to him, I'm so fucking bored, Joe Rogan, you fucking piece of shit. I am so fucking tired of being here. I would grit my teeth and I would just keep a positive disposition and I would...
Oh, I'm a little tired. That's okay. This is a cool opportunity. I'll keep a pleasant demeanor and I'll be chipper. I'll be chipper. That's the word. All right, let's get through the tweets if we can. Thank you, Jay. Appreciate it. Oh, we saw this one, right? You're like, put your, you have your, or wait, scroll down. You have your foot on his face. Yikes. Read it up. Scroll up. No, no, no. Scroll up. Turning LA millionaires into my bitch. Is that the nice house guy?
I can't disclose too much. Okay, that's fine. I'm going to interrupt you, Brian. I need to go because I'm getting hungry. Oh, we got applesauce. Do you want some applesauce? I got you what you want. applesauce is boring well how about how about how about this before you leave why don't you why no no no before you leave why don't you actually contribute to the conversation once it's too late all right morgan you can take the seat please
This chick's never been told no, by the way. The most milquetoast pushback. Wow, look at that. A kickoff and a rage quit. Okay. I'm leaving too. Thank you. Okay. Hold on. All right. Peace out. Peace out. You too, homie. This is here and well met. Long Panadins donated $100.02. Who is Candace Owens? I have seen Molly Little sit through the entire podcast numerous times. I guarantee her time is worth more than Candace's. I have an idea. Would you date as Mongold? Who's this directed to?
I don't know who this is. Yes, I would date Asim and Gold. It's unfortunate that the 10 had to leave. Now, the most attractive woman left. I'm very upset by this. I'm very upset. Now I'm left with all these average-looking men. I'm very upset. God damn. If only we could have kept the most beautiful woman. It's... And the best personalities with a ton to contribute. Awkward. Okay. I really don't know where we're going to go with this show without having their contributions here.
I mean, like, how could we even really have a show here without having, I mean, they were the star of the show. The focus was all on them the entire time. Yeah. We didn't even get to the part about how I like Asian women, which is disappointing. Yeah. I feel like he just nerfed the whole show, man, just like that. I mean, they were the centerpiece of this entire thing.
And, you know, you just ran them right out of there. It would have been good if they saw the bow video. We should probably end it now because they're gone. It sounds very stereotypical. There's a little stereotyping there going on, Brian. They're from Kazakhstan, Andrew. Yeah, I'm from Kazakhstan too. I'm from Kazakhstan as well. Did you guys ride here together? No. I'm from Sacramento. Let's get through the tweet. Yo, Nick.
07's in the chat, Nick. All right. Let's see. Let's get through the tweets. Austin, if you can pull it up. The next time my human ashtray sub pisses me off, I'm making him drink the dirty bong water. Ew. Very gross. So gross. Better not piss me off. Disavow next. I bet I look like a sweet, innocent little girl to most people, but no one would suspect that I'm actually robbing and degrading dumb men on the internet. I think that's true. Wait, you're robbing?
And degrading? Well, the degrading, yeah. But the robbing part? Yeah. Okay, next. Just joined a sub of 1,500 while his wife is sleeping right next to him. I love ruining marriages. You don't feel at all bad about that? It is a little sad, honestly. But if I won't... I love ruining marriages. I mean, that's a terrible thing to say. I agree. Even if it's a joke. That's not... I warned you guys. Alright, next.
I always wear the pants when dating. Female-led relationships are just better. Wait, actually? No. I wear the pants. No. You guys are taking this too seriously. Also, I feel like some of these tweets... I've literally warned you and told you a million times. Also, I know she's gone, but some of these tweets are dating topics. Like this one, for example. Nothing precludes the rest of the panel from...
Let me wait. Just FYI, change up the angles. Nothing would have precluded other panelists. No, actually, I think it's better when the man... Anyways, whatever. Okay. The way every sub I've met up with always says, damn, you actually act like this in real life. I for real get paid to be myself. But you're not yourself, right? Yeah, you just said these tweets aren't you. Yeah, definitely not. That's why.
You're a fucking liar. You're a fucking liar. She actually, she enjoys it. She believes in all of it. Right? I mean, that's what your tweet says. Maybe a little. You should just own it, girl. Take a stance. There you go. Say it. There you go. All right. Let's do the next tweet. Good morning, uggos. Daily reminder that I'm hotter than your wife. Okay, next. The outfit is amazing. Living my pretty privileged life funded by ugly men on the internet. Scroll down.
Is it a video? It's just a video. It's just me in the car. Next, yeah. That was about Jordan. Guys, this boy really likes me, dot dot dot. I'm going to just lead him on and use him until there's nothing left. Then I'll ghost him. Okay, so that's not in your profession, right? This is the guy that bought me Prada. Oh. So did you ghost him afterwards? Yeah, he's blocked. Wait, did we skip forward?
Why did you block him if he's buying you Prada and giving you money and everything? Why did you block him? There's a lot of background. Yeah. Okay. Lots of more. Go ahead. My honest reaction after ruining a man's life. Scroll down a bit more. That's it? Okay, cool. You don't give a fuck, basically. Yeah. Oh, made a sub cry on livestream. Buy the full vid on my LF. Scroll down.
Is this safe to play? I don't think so. What? There's not nudity though, right? Well, there is no nudity. Tell us what's happening in the video. It's just like this man like crying from pain because he's hitting himself in the balls. I'd rather not. You don't have to. You don't want to. Wait, but are you laughing while... Yeah, look at my face. I'm happy. Wait, how about this? Mute the audio and then play it.
Damn, so he's hurting his testicles Like so you're laughing while he's hurting yeah self-harming you like damn that's paid He comes back like every two weeks. Next. Prove the meaner you are to men, the more obsessed they become. Scroll down a bit. Knight, today kind of broke me, but still looking forward to future sins, because that's just how I am for some reason. Lamo, you're obsessed. No Dom's ever been that mean to me, not gonna lie. Knight.
Don't worry about me running off. Worst case, I hate blank. Hate jerk. I mean, I put on my application online. You're just better than... Scroll down. Is there a response? Told you I'm superior. Okay, next. Question, question. Is it really an act or do you have a lot of anger at men and this helps you take it out on them? Let's be real. These tweets are crazy. Yeah, I know. It's a bit exaggerated. It's a bit exaggerated, but you do enjoy your job, yeah? Yeah, I do.
Do you feel that you have unresolved anger at a male figure? Maybe, yeah. Not maybe. Sure. Yes. Yeah. That's a good question. Okay. Okay, next. I am the best when it comes to ruining men's self-esteem. Best of the best. Best of the best. When it comes to ruining men's self-esteem. Can you read? You have no idea. Well, maybe some idea, but I've been doing this sort of thing for a while now.
With much more experienced doms. And never have I felt that degraded and owned. So do it again. Oh my god. That looks like Snapchat. Okay another question. Do you know that. men can be amazing and great like do you i mean probably not at 18 you probably have no idea that like men Personally, I think men are amazing. I value and love my husband so much, and I just think men are great.
Women, we'd be very lost without them. My husband makes my life better every single day. It is really hard to see these tweets. I mean, I just... I guess I just want you to know in the future, men are great. You should appreciate and worship them the way they worship you, not degrade them like this. I just want you to know it's very, very, very unhealthy. I'm just saying.
One day I think you'll regret all this. That's a possibility. Next. Congrats to Sean, my ugliest white sub, for reaching my 1K club, I guess. When you say white, I'm assuming you're talking about his skin color? Yeah. Okay. Next. Oh, we're done. Okay. You can close out all the tweets. All right, now let's get into some other things. Oh, I need to get to here. Let's do this. other ones there guys. How do you say your name? Jaren? Yes.
Okay, you just moved back from Madrid and you went on a date with a Spanish guy, only spoke Spanish, and I'm not fluent. After having lunch and going to the park, he started talking to me very explicit using Google Translate. So what are some of the things he sent via Google Translate? Yes. So at the end of the day, we were sitting at the park and...
He said a couple things in Spanish, and I was visually, I looked confused. And in the Google Translate, first he started asking me questions. For example, have you ever been with a Spanish man? And I just shake my head, no. And then he says, I've never been with a black woman before. And I just don't say anything. And then he says, well, I would really like for us to engage in sex.
And then I shook my head, no. He's like, do you have sex? I was like, no. And then he was like, well, is it okay if we do masturbation? I said, no. And then... It was just like an awkward silence because this is all on Google Translate. Wait, I'm going to try to do that right now. Do I have Google Translate? Wait, hold on. Just go to google.com.
I don't know if it's going to translate. And you can speak to it. Like on Google search. There's an app for it though. Yeah, there's an app. Yeah. I don't know if I have it. Shazam. Just in Google go. Google translate and it will come up. You click on it. Okay. I'm going to... Okay, whatever. We get the point. Damn, that's crazy. Yeah, so it was like the first and only date. So he's like... Does anybody here speak Spanish? No, he's like...
Oh, he's typing it. Typing it. I thought he was speaking Spanish and Spanish. And then I'm reading it. ¿Dónde está la biblioteca? I don't know. All right. What else? What else? Let's see. You said... You wanted to talk about male-female roles, women thinking they're the same as men. Do you want to expand on that a bit? Yes. I think I've watched some previous episodes where a woman might have shared that. They can do the same things in terms of jobs as men.
Whether that be working in construction, whether that be in the sewage, they think they are able or would do any job that a man does. And I don't believe that. Wait, question. Does Connor's last name start with a G? Connor's last name? Does it start with a G? No.
Okay, because some dude named Connor sent me a DM. I'm not trying to dog that. It's just like some random dude named Connor sent me a DM. He liked you doming him. He wants more. Anyways, I was like, bro, is he trying to hire him? He wants to sell you some cash, Brian. Okay. Anyways, did you have more on that? Yeah, I think that was the main point. And also, like... Kind of what we were talking about earlier, that men working, women staying at home, I think.
It's definitely a privilege to stay at home while a man's working. And you said, I would say I disagree with women thinking they can do things like OF and find a husband within their criteria. Yes. What Laura was saying earlier, like women wanting, oh. I want him to make six figures. I want to be six foot. I want him to do this and have a yacht. And when you are in sex work, I just think that.
you wanting that you have to be more realistic about your criteria and what you even even when you're not like i'll present these girls as Good looking guy who makes a ton of money. That's him. Have a shave and show your chin dimple. You missed out. It's probably not Connor. It's him. You were saying? I said, even if they don't do OF, I will present a girl, a great guy, at least on paper. Obviously, she hasn't met him yet, but my client. 6'3", makes well over six figures.
handsome, and she'll be like, he's not really my type. The delusion. I mean, it's... It makes my job very difficult. You can't even bother to get ready, go to a five-star dinner, like, oh, my God. Damn. Why do you think a lot of women are like that today? Why? I mean, I just think it runs really deep in society and TikTok. I mean, looking for a man in finance, six, five blue eyes. That's like, they did the statistics that there's two men that fit that criteria in the entire country.
Two. Two. I mean, they did the stats. But every girl thinks they're going to find that guy. And the reality is, you're not. You're not going to find that guy. And I just think... Women just, they have unrealistic standards. Look, some men do too, right? Like, my guys come to me, they're looking for a woman that doesn't exist.
The reality, I think we're in a mandemic. That's the word I like to say. There aren't that many eligible men out there versus eligible women. So it's very skewed. So I think when you find a good guy... that you're attracted to, that...
does okay you shouldn't care if he's 6'5 you shouldn't be like this guy's not my type like you need to have an open mind as a woman and you should be going on every date unless he's like a complete ogre and you're just like I'm not attracted like that's fair but I mean to have this criteria and be so delusional that you're waiting, you know, waiting it out for Brad Pitt. It's just, it's tough. Yeah. Oh, I had a question here.
What do you bring to the table? Starting with you. I am loyal and smart and funny sometimes, and I do make my own money. And I've been... Men don't care about that. Don't look at me. They tell. And independent. Okay. Are you able to scoot this way just a little bit in your chair so we can get her scooted in? Yeah. And then what about you? Loyal, honest, funny sometimes. a lover oh here he goes with the makeup wipes
Oh, no, no, no. Well, maybe for later. That's all I got right now, to be honest. Okay. She doesn't speak English, so we're going to skip her. What do you bring to the table? I love Jesus. I believe in family. I want a family. I believe in supporting a man. And I believe in being a homemaker and a nurturer. Strong. A good cook. I'm funny in the relationship. Loyal. Smart. sweet and kind well with the top exterior
Well, first of all, I think I can bring a lot more than I am bringing to the relationship to my marriage already. So there is quite a bit of room to go. Wait, can you tilt your mic down? Like this? More. More. Yeah. Go ahead. Do you want me to repeat again? Quickly, if you can, just so I can get through everybody. Yeah, so personally, I think I should be bringing more to the relationship than I am already. I definitely...
My husband is pretty happy, you know, so I absolutely forever grateful to him for everything that he does for the family. So gratitude, respect, appreciation, but definitely. Really, lots of room to grow for me personally. You said good. I mean, I... I just don't like this question for a variety of reasons, but I, of course, will answer it. I agree with what you said. I adore my husband, have a ton of admiration for him.
Obviously, I bring to the table my incredible fertility. When we met, he wanted four kids. He said that on our first date. And I said, that's, wow, that's like a lot of kids. And I said, you know, I don't know. I don't know if I can have that many. I'm not sure, but I'm open. Like I want a big family and he got his four kids and two pregnancies. So I would say like that, that's bringing a lot to the table. Um, was there any, like, I know, were you taking any fertility? Absolutely not. No.
Can't that cause twins and triplets? Yeah, I took nothing. This is all natural. I got pregnant right away. Does it run in your family? Yes, twins do run in my family. Well, what's the contrast here? Like, Brian, what would you say you brought to the table? Yeah. What do I bring to the table? What do you bring to the table? Let's see. I bring 50-50. I'm willing to go 50-50 with a girl. I'm very generous. She won't have to pay for the whole date. She only has to pay for 50-50. I'm very...
I'm not stingy with money. Will you go 50-50 with your billionaire future wife? Will you go 50-50 with your billionaire future wife? No, she's paying for everything. Okay. All right. Yo, Mackenzie. My fucking DMs are fucking open. Mackenzie's paying. Mackenzie. We got it. What about the Bumble Lady? I... The Bumble Lady. Cara? The app, the Bumble app, she's a billionaire too.
The owner of Bumble. Yeah, the owner of Bumble who created Bumble. I'm available for all female billionaires. Okay. You can be 70. She's actually not. I'm not picky when it comes to billionaire women, okay? Are you dating someone now that you go 50-50 with? I'm not at liberty to discuss my relationship status. Have you done it in the past? Sorry, sorry. Have you gone 50-50 in the past? That's like your go-to.
Have I gone 50-50 in the past? In past relationships. I should finish my sentence. I've got a stalker, so I don't talk about certain things. Yeah, I've gone 50-50. Is that every relationship? I've been on more first dates where I paid 50-50 than I haven't. So what makes you not do it? Huh? What do you mean? You said some dates you go 50-50 and some you don't.
Maybe she's just really hot? Yeah, I'm wondering. She's very sweet. Is that the criteria? Sweet. Come on, right? Sweet? When the woman's very sweet. I guess that's a component of it, but... Wait, can you stop playing with your chapstick or whatever? I mean, it's more recently because I mean, I'm like... The past two or three years or whatever, I've been making more money, so I'm more open to just paying for it. I mean, it depends, too. But the women that I've chosen to date...
have been a little vetted a little better, I guess. How do you vet them? I mean, it's a thorough process. First question, how large is your labia? 100 questions. For the BLM. First question, are you willing to bow? Can you pull up the bow video? I only date women with large labias. I'm actually trying to find a woman with Guinness World Record labia. I'm serious. But I'm serious. Okay, also, this is my ex-girlfriend, so this is what I expect. Go ahead. Yeah, I want to see.
Boom. Huge bow. Did you guys see that fucking bow? Look at that. Keep going. Let it play. Look at that technique. Look at that technique. It took me... I had to train her a little bit. She had to be trained. But she did well. I mean, she took to it. She was a natural. Is this really your ex? This is my ex-girlfriend. I had her remove the fake breasts, though. I don't like fake tits. She stirs my noodles.
I'm not really sure. That looks like a TikTok video. Yeah, that doesn't look like your ex. I'm not sure about the stirring the noodles while he's sitting down. You know what I mean? I feel like the noodles should have been stirred before he sat down. You're right. Honestly. She should have fed him. But Andrew, I think it was a couple of shows ago when he came to the bow video. If you can make the point again.
I think it was Rachel who said, that's basic. Wait, can we get a cameo? What happened, Andrew? She's snoozing, bro. You know what, Andrew? You go into her room. and you start banging some pots together. Rachel, she's like an evil secret weapon that you only want to deploy when the worst of the worst are on, and this just isn't the worst of the worst. Okay, that's fair.
It's not the worst of the worst. You don't want to, you don't want to like, you don't want to bring out the cannon. You know what I mean? When, you know, just like a bat will do the job type of thing. But anyway, I mean, pretty stark contrast, though, in what's being brought to the table. I think it's interesting, the difference in answers between men and women.
I see that women usually seem to give this answer that what they bring to the table is their kind of cheerful disposition and that, you know, I'm smart and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, they all think they're smart, right? There's nobody who's like, oh, well, I think I'm really stupid, and that's why a man would be attracted to me. So I always just think that the kind of contrast there...
is interesting to see. The girl that left thinks she's a genius. The girl that got kicked out thinks she's a genius. Also, if you speak five languages, I think you're pretty damn smart. Well, not really. I mean, that's a big red herring, too. So I found this out as well, kind of going through my research. But as it turns out... Pale and well met. Lol, Paladin's donated $100.02. As I've been making more money, I've been more open to just paying for it, aren't we all, buddy? Aren't we all? Yeah.
But yeah, the five languages things, when you're a little kid, you're like a sponge. And if you are engrossed, like most people in Eastern European countries are... In multiple languages, very easy to absorb and pick up. Now, if you're 30 years old and you pick up five languages, then I'm fucking impressed. Well, I only picked up two languages when I was growing up, so...
When did you pick up the other three? When I was like 18, 19, and then America. English, I learned it in school, but it was more when I came to America, I learned it more. Okay, so what are the languages you speak? I speak Russian, Romanian, Spanish, French, Italian. You're fluent in Spanish. And French? I think Brian's fluent in French.
Do you want us to have a conversation? Is that what you're getting at, Andrew? I'm just curious, yeah. I want to hear a conversation in French. It's kind of hard when you speak at 12 o'clock or what time is it, 1 o'clock, change different languages. You can do it. I have faith in you. We all know that one. I had to shoot my shot. I'm just kidding. Oh wait, I'll just read some French.
I'll just read some French really quick. I can read French too. I know, it's great. It's great, isn't it? I'm sure I could read French, right? Probably not, Andrew. No? I mean, you could, but... Je pense que la France est perdue. Eh bien, un jour, je vais retourner à France et je ferai tout mon possible pour changer l'avenir. All right, now what did he say? Hang on, what did he say? You want me to translate?
No, if you want. Okay, translate. Go ahead. Well, can you do it one more time? One more time? Oh, boy, okay. I think the France, it's lost. Eh bien? It's good. No, it would be like thus, sort of. Oh, thus, okay. Eh bien, well, I mean, okay, whatever. Un jour, je vais retourner à France. Un what? When I return to France. When I return to France. And I'll make everything possible to change. Okay, I'll make everything possible to change.
I don't know what the avenir is. L'avenir. L'avenir. It's the future. The future. Here, let me just Google and make sure I have it right. It means... I thought it was the future. The future. Pour changer le destin de mon peuple. Okay, I want to change the destiny of my public. People. People, yeah. Now, I'm probably gonna get cancelled in France for saying that shit, but France is fucking lost, boys, and we must reclaim. France. So depressing when I was a kid.
I walked to the Eiffel Tower. There's never a soldier with a firearm. Never a soldier with a gun. Now you go to France. Fucking soldiers everywhere. The gendered Marie, the fucking police. It's very sad. France is lost. And I can't get into the... reasons why, but it's kind of saddening. That's because our economy crashed because all the white flag factories went out of business, right? Andrew, how are you going to do me dirty like that, bro? How are you going to do me dirty, Andrew?
You know, Andrew, I just want to say, I just want to say, Andrew, if it not had been for French intervention in the Civil War. By the way, I'm American. I'm American. Revolutionary war. Revolutionary War, not Civil War. Fuck! You're right. God damn, I don't know history. Clip it and ship it, boys. Clip it and ship it. This idiot, this stupid man. This stupid man. Yeah, I meant Revolutionary War. Okay, it's late. It's late. It's so...
late. It's past my bedtime. It's a revolutionary war. The French were very helpful. When it came to the Revolutionary War, I'm just saying. Well, actually, they sent us a ton of equipment that didn't work, just so you know. That is not true. The muskets that they sent didn't work because they were designed by the French. Erroneous! Erroneous!
Andrew, I will not allow you to slander the good works of the French during the Revolutionary War. Rude, disavow. Well, they gave us a nice statue, right? What's that? They gave us a nice statue. yeah nice statue French fries. They're like, you know what we need to do? We need to make the ugliest statue you've ever seen and put it right on the shore of New York where all the immigrants come in. Doesn't she look like a man a little bit, the statue?
Look, all I'm saying, I see what's happening in Europe, and it's coming for America. Yeah. And I'm worried. Anyways, not to get fucking political here. Brian, did you see, though, when France had their yellow vest uprising that was going on? That was pretty big. Yeah, they had to be safe, you know, so they would wear their little yellow safety vest when they were out. Well, they needed to be safe. When you're protesting against your government, you've got to be safe, right?
Well, I mean, I feel like you got to give the French credit here. The French love a fucking riot. They love a protest. As long as it's safe. As long as it's safe and they can wear their little yellow vest, right? Their little crossing guard vest? So anyways, okay, all right. Damn, man. Goddamn. So was she fluent enough for you? Wasn't that the point? Was she fluent enough for you guys?
I didn't understand anything they said. I was just messing around. Getting the show moving, right? Getting some energy. But the point was, you were trying to test if she's fluent. Is that fluent enough for you? I wasn't really testing anything. I was just kind of being a snarky, smartass for no particularly good reason. Andrew, check this out. The French National Anthem. With the blood of our enemies, we will fertilize our soil. Get fucking wrecked, Andrew.
Boom. Roasted. But do the rockets red glare, Brian? Do they? With the blood of our enemies, we will fertilize our soil. Hello? Is there more fucking metal? Like... Lyric? If you never do it, isn't it just Cope? I'll tell you what. I want to tell you about the... Did you know that they just replaced recently the entire French fleet? And what they did was they took the ships and they made them have glass floors, and that's so that the new French fleet can see the old French fleet.
Wait, is it the impure blood? Wait, is that what it says? Somebody in the chat said that's what it is. Okay, sorry. Sorry, what's that, Andrew? What about the fleet? Oh, nothing. I was just saying that the new French fleet has glass floors so that they can see the old French fleet. Damn, Andrew. Come on, man. You're doing me dirty, man.
Did you hear about the new French tank? It's really good. The new French tank, Brian, it has five reverse gears, but it does have one forward gear in case the enemy comes from behind. Did you just Google how to dunk on French people? No, just off the top of the head, bro. Damn. Damn, that's crazy. That's crazy. Wait, where were we? Where were we? Oh, you had something. There's a little bit of a back and forth. You mentioned the patriarchy earlier.
You want to know in what context? Are you against the patriarchy? No, I'm not against it. I'm not a feminist. I absolutely believe that we are in basically a male-run society. Is that good? bad or neutral? I think it's fine. It's neutral. I mean, I was just saying when you guys were asking, are you going to be better looking in 10 years? I'm like, according to this society, like older women are not as attractive as older men.
That's a fact. Is that patriarchy or is that just like biology or whatever? I mean, you could argue for both. I mean, there are certain cultures that do think older women are still beautiful, but absolutely it is biological for men to be attracted to youth and fertility. But at a certain point, if a man is like... 55, 16, he's done having kids.
Why should he care if a woman is like 45 and she looks great, but he's probably still going to choose the 35 year old, even though he doesn't want to have kids with her. So it's not necessarily all biology. Most of my clients in their 50s and 60s, they're just starting to have a family. Their marriage is for the first time, and they want to have kids. I hope they froze their sperm. That is old to have a kid. Well, they go through the testing, yeah. Okay, yeah.
Wow. Do you work out of LA primarily? What city do you work out of primarily? Sacramento. Sacramento. I normally see older dads in bigger cities. No, it's internationally. Can you do that again? No, it was a one-day wonder. Is your neck okay? It felt really amazing, actually. You crocked your neck. Yeah. I got neck issues, so that just kind of gives me the creeps. Crickets. Crickets.
How many of you women are open to marriage with a significant age gap? How significant? Depends what age I'm getting married. 20 years? What are we talking? For me, significant would be like 25 plus. For you, you're saying eight years is significant. I never said it was significant. I said it was a gap. Let's say like... It's not significant at all. 15 years age gap. Me personally, I would not. No? No. I mean, it depends how old I am that I'm getting married. Like, I should be, if I was 25.
That's when your brain fully develops. That's different. But if I was like freshly 20, it's just 35. The prefrontal cortex. That is not when your brain fully develops. When does your brain fully develop? Well, it depends. It varies per person to person. But even the people who created the data that you're referencing there for the prefrontal cortex saying it's not completely developed until it's 25, say specifically in the study...
Do not read into this that this means anything. It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean that we're saying that this is when a person is an adult, can be an adult, can make rational decisions. It's not like, oh, I'm 24 and a half. Oh, now I'm 25 and now I'm a real adult. That's kind of absurd, right? Just pointing that out. But that's what you're referencing. When you're 25, you would consider a man for yourself who is like 40. Would you go on a date with Brad Pitt? Yes.
You would not. You would deny Brad Pitt today. If he stood in your DMs and was like, I want to take you out on a date, you would say no to Brad Pitt. Honestly, I would have an asexual relationship with Brad Pitt. Do you know how old he is? Everyone wants Leo. Guess? 50-something. I don't...
I'm not really a fan of Brad Pitt. I don't know anything about him. He's 60 years old, and he has a 34-year-old girlfriend that he just went public with at the Venice Film Festival, and he looks amazing. He could do better. Thank you. But I feel like... It depends on the guy, and you might say yes to a guy. I don't think so. Me, yeah. I only like older guys.
So that's Eastern European women. Eastern European women, would you consider? Yes, definitely. You would consider as well. Okay. She's Eastern European? No. Before I got to her. Because the clientele, Laura, right, dealing with, she's saying that women normally don't consider the age gaps. Some don't. You know what I actually find?
is absolutely bizarre so for instance like I I have a bunch of my clients are 40s 50s 60s generally there are some 30s but you know generally it's 40s 50s 60s so I have some really good looking like 60-year-old clients, again, 6'3", very successful. You know, some of them are billionaire level. I mean, there's only 800 billionaires in America around that. And I, you know, some of them are my clients. So, and they're very good looking too. They're not like gremlins. It's like the guy's 6'2".
He's handsome. He looks really good. I'm not going to say he's Brad Pitt, but he's attractive. And the funny thing is it's easier for me to call a 30-year-old. She'll be like, yes, I'd love to go on a date. If you ask a 50... Two-year-old woman, she's like, oh, no, that's way too old for me. I look way younger than my age. And no, no, no, she has this whole, like, story for me. And I'm just like, all right, cool. Even if the guy's open to...
you know, dating a woman in her forties and fifties, which they are like, they're like, if she looks good, I'm open to it. Like my clients are cool. They're not really that ageist. Um, even if I give them a 30 year old or say like, Hey, like, do you want to go with 30 year old? They're like, do you think that she's mature enough for me? 30 year gap. And I'm like, listen, she said yes. And the 50 year old said no.
So it's amazing. I feel like, unfortunately, I just see a trend of women getting bitter with age and just being a little bit in denial and being like, I look younger than my age. I mean, if I had a dollar for every woman that told me that. I'd be very rich. It's just the trend and the pattern I see. Would you be a billionaire? I wouldn't be a billionaire, but I would have some cash. I have cash, but I would have more.
We have a few more notes to get through, and I'm going to try to wrap up the show here fairly soon. I do have a couple notes. Let's see. Oh, hey, thank you, man. Thank you, man. Thank you, man. Whoever sells their body is a zero period. You're gross. Girl in the black and the German? Who's German? Who's German? Girl in the black? Like the black and then the German?
Oh. Only person close to 10. I think he thinks Jared, maybe, is the German. Or no. No, he thinks, sorry, Exana. I think it's Kylie or whatever. I don't know. I don't know which one. Whoever sells their bodies at zero period. Okay. Y'all gross. All right. A couple of things here. Let's get, let's see. Oh, professional matchmaker for your, for wealthy, high value men.
And you're a dating coach for women? Yes. I coach men too if they want, but generally men don't want to be coached, especially wealthy ones. They do not want feedback or opinions. Of course, I'm available. I have a question for you. What advice would you give a man like me who's trying to find a billionaire woman? Be honest. I'm trying to be a male gold digger.
I've realized as I've gotten older and less attractive that I deserve more and have higher standards. Your time is ticking. I want a rich woman to support my lifestyle while I give her sex three times a week tops. What can I do to find my girl? How old are you willing to date? You don't care about looks? You'll sleep with an unattractive 55-year-old? I just want to know so I can give you the proper advice. Go 50 and she can be a 4.
She can be a four. I will go. How old will you go and can she be a four? Do I have to still have sex with her? Yes, absolutely. Billionaire? Yes. Yeah, you can do it right. I get half of it. Billionaire, no prenup. No prenup. Fully supporting you. She's going to bequeath me all her estate, her money. Well, whatever the law is, if you don't sign a prenup, you get half.
of the marital growth. In the will, do I get it all? That's something you'd have to negotiate with her. Like, I don't deal with those details. Let's just say, you know, just 50 million, Brian's fine. 50 million? 100 million. But she's a billionaire. Yeah, but does she really love me if she doesn't get caught up in probate court? Does she really care about me? You know what? If she's a billionaire, if I'm piping down a granny, I'm getting a billion.
So, I will go up to... I won't fuck a... What is it? I will go up to 99. Because I'm... Okay, so any age. Up to 90. No, I won't go over 100. Okay. I think she's dead by then. She's not all there. She has Alzheimer's. Is my max. Can you find me? This woman. I will love her and cherish her. Well, you asked for my advice. Six months, she's still living.
My advice is my specific advice. There is a market for this. It's not what we do. But go to functions. Go to charity functions. A lot of older women are there. They're widows. Their husbands have passed. They want a younger, sexy man to make them feel good. So go shoot your shot, but it's definitely not what we do, but that's my advice. Wait, where are these places? Charity functions, high-end events, our time. Join our time.
I'm not going to meet a billionaire at a bar. That sucks. You're not. Definitely not really where they hang out. Do they at least have booze at the charity functions? They do have booze at the charity functions. It's free. It boozed up a little bit. To the two matchmakers. Yeah. Two matchmakers. To both of us. I'll cut you guys in if you find me a chick. What's the bonus? I'll cut you guys in.
What's the success bonus? What are we getting if I find you? I'll give you a band. A band? A thousand dollars. My rates are higher, unfortunately. I will get you a push present. I don't need one. My husband gets those for me and he's the best. I know a girl. Well, it's not that kind of push present. It's when I push her down the stairs. Oh my God. Call life alert to save her. Oh my God.
And then you get a present. Inheritance. I know a girl. Or not inheritance. I know a girl. You would prefer that, right? Like, shouldn't you be going for a 96-year-old fight? No, I want to say a story really quick. I know a girl who dated this guy that was... in his 80s and she was maybe like late 20s. For 10 years she was waiting for him to die. He was not dying.
And sometimes he would want to have sex, so she would have to give him a beautiful pill to make him fall asleep. And then the next day she'll tell him, like, oh, my God, we had such an amazing time. Anyways, 10 years later, finally he passes away and he leaves her like four apartments in London and something she became like a full-on real estate developer. Blah, blah, blah. So she wasted 10 years of her life, but she didn't really waste it because in her 30s, she became a multimillionaire.
Yeah, but it doesn't always go that way. Have you seen the documentary on Anna Nicole? Like all these, you know, gold digger girls are like, Anna, she's the idol. It's like she got zero dollars. You guys know that, right? She got zero dollars. And actually because. she didn't have a prenup. So she thought marriage would protect her. But because there was no prenup written with the law...
his son came after her and went to court and was like, absolutely not. This gold digger is not getting any of my dad's money. And the court sided with him, honestly, as they should have. So just saying, it doesn't always go that way. She got lucky. So can I answer your question about, you said to two matchmakers, right? He was saying he's going to give us a bonus to find. I'll cut you in. I'll juice you in or whatever it's called. I feel like, Brian, if you were a hot chick, you would do damage.
like like these two girls no i don't know you would like if brian was a hot chick he would be married to like a 65 year old billionaire and he would just be like on his fifth marriage like raking it in i don't know i just feel like You know, don't you think? You'd be smart. Yeah. That is so true. You're right. I would kill it.
You would kill it. If I had my male brain in a woman, oh my. Yeah, if you were a hot chick for three days, what damage would you do? What would you do? What's the first thing you, what would you do? Thank you. What would I do? What's the first thing you would do? Would you do what they do? Would you go get some money from guys? Would you do any of this stuff? Would you do OF? Or no? Would you just go try to find a...
Billionaire to marry. I would. If you were like a really hot chick, like 11 out of 10. I'd be in hell because I'd be a lesbian, so. I wouldn't like. I would also be a lesbian. Yeah. Okay. Like, I wouldn't, like, fuck a dude. That would be... Would you be a butch or a beautiful lesbian? Wouldn't that be gay? Wouldn't that be kind of gay, right? I can't do that. Damn, everybody getting off the table to vote.
I can't even ask questions. The whole panel's gone. I'm trying to wrap the show, boys, and you guys are back there getting refreshments. It's okay. They'll come back. They're coming back. You wouldn't use your hot female power and pretty privilege to fuck shit up a little bit? Would you be a butch lesbian or like girly lesbian? Obviously girly if he's very hot. I think I would miss wearing pants. Really? I hate pants.
I don't know. I would hope it wasn't my period. On the day? Yeah. You said it's for a day? For three days. Like three days. You got three days. Am I ovulating? No. Not in your prime, no. All right. So getting through your notes, Laura, you said you had some great experiences dating and bad ones when you're single. You ended up moving to Florida, find your dream husband, father of four. You found your dream husband and father of your four children.
Two sets of natural twin boys. You used to be a professional model and actress living in L.A. for eight years and New York for three. You're represented by Wilhelmina. Wilhelmina. my twenties. I've done major films and TV shows. I was working model actress and was happy with my career, but I turned 29. I realized I'd been lied to about working and hustling so hard and went on a mission to really find my man and be a mom. It wasn't easy, and I definitely had to leave L.A. to find him.
Yes. L.A. sucks for dating is what I've heard from a lot of girls. Horrible. Terrible. You guys are sort of sometimes in L.A. Yeah, everyone here is so... It's very weird. They're all sluts. I've never met so many whores in my life. Well, the dating economics is off, ladies. Los Angeles, it has the most beautiful girls in the entire world.
You know, busloads of women go there every day with a dream to model and act. It has very beautiful women. So the dating economics are very skewed. He's shaking his head. You disagree? I think LA... Even in our database, we have thousands of women in the database. All the most beautiful ones are in LA. Wait silent for a sec. Is that chick still there? Anyways, don't worry about that. Oh, okay. Did you send me something, Does? Still? No way. Wait, wait, wait. She's back.
Guys, she's back. Can you close the door? Yeah, I can hear her voice. Anyways, so anyways... I think we found this stalker. And I think she brought bodyguards. Did she bring people? I don't know. I'm just kidding. Okay, okay, stop, stop, stop, stop back there. Can we get people to sit back down so I can try to move this on a little bit? Okay, continued. You said, I'm so happy I never did OnlyFans or anything like that, as obviously I could have, but it would have ruined my life now.
Number one thing my clients tell me is she cannot have done OF or do it. Just the other day, my client called to tell me, wait, do we invite that fucking, no way, no, no, no, back on. No fucking way. That would be a bad idea. I think you should. No. No, I think not. She's probably drunk by now. I would not.
Drunk or mapped out? Or that, yeah. Let's see. The number one thing my clients tell me is she cannot have done OF or do it. We talked about just the other day my client called to tell me this girl does it, that I wanted to set him up. Oh. So a girl that was your client, she lied? She wasn't our client. She's in the free database. But I always vet the girls. And so this one caught me. Because normally the OnlyFans link is right in the Instagram.
there it's obvious you can click it like there it is and So I can tell. But this girl, she lives in LA. She's absolutely stunning. Like 11 out of 10, honestly. Signed with Women Management, which is one of the top model agencies in the world next to Wilhelmina. They book all the Sports Illustrated girls. for SI was woke that's a whole other conversation but basically she's gorgeous and so
I just didn't think she did OF. Like, I checked Twitter. I checked everything. I mean, she's a public figure. Like, I couldn't find it. And I sent it to him, too. And he was like, no, no. Like, she seems great. Like, I interviewed her. She seemed great. I asked her about it. She said no. And she had it. And I mean, he found it somehow. He sent me the link. And I was like, wow. Like, I mean.
I don't know how she hated it like that, but she had a lot of subscribers, and it really was her. And when I asked her about it, she said, yeah, I didn't want to tell you. I didn't want to be judged and stuff, but there you go. Yeah, you wrote that... The client called to tell you this girl does it.
a gorgeous model and actress, and it wasn't listed in her Instagram bio, so I didn't think she did. He said she was his dream girl, but canceled the date and canceled the plane. He was going to fly to LA just to meet her and take her to dinner. He's 40s, six foot two, wants... kids in marriage and billion he's a billionaire yes do you have a couple billionaire clients or yes i do i currently have three billionaire clients i'm not gonna like do gay for pay but this is my client
Would you be down to see if you're, would they ever come on the podcast? No, they're so private. That's the thing about it. Rich guys. They're super private. They're very private. I mean, I can ask. I can ask. A lot of them, it's funny, they don't want to admit that they had to hire a matchmaker, but they also can't be on a dating app. See, some of them, they're not just billionaires, they're recognizable. Two of them, you would know who they are. They're very, very recognizable.
So it's like they can't even be on a dating app because they'll get kicked off. Like Bumble will be like, this is a fake profile because it's a public figure too. They're famous and wealthy. Just curious, how much do they pay for your services? It starts at $50,000 for a period of time. So three months, four months. We give unlimited matches. There's a lot of other companies that charge per date. We don't do that. We just like to, like, you know...
I say like in six months, if I can't find you a long-term relationship, I have not done my job. You know, I don't, you know, I work with a company of seven other matchmakers as well. So we all work together. It's not like I get the entire 50, but yeah, it's, it's a high answer. is it takes a lot of focus and time. I will not take more than five clients at once, and especially in my new role as a mother, like...
Three is like my max. I just can't. So it's a lot of work. You know, you could at least maybe ask them, see if they're down to it. Because it would be really interesting. I know they're super private. It would be super interesting to have a conversation with. Listen, listen, you girls are all in for reawakening, especially you, Blonde. You have a mouth that just keeps going. Stop lying about super private clients. Nobody wants to be with your... With your...
Wait, I'm assuming. I'm going to play it. I'm assuming. A, she was a hooah. B, she was a hooah. It wasn't that. It was skanks. Somebody does. My husband, who I had four kids with, but okay. Did you get the private chat? Yo, Lazer, thank you for the attempt to TTSR. It won't read it if there's a...
Uh, like filtered word. Uh, we actually, you know, you, your clients, we've had the amount of women and men who've come on the show who have met like boyfriends, girlfriends from just being on the show. is kind of insane in fact andrew you know this gentleman mason they've gone public with this so i think it's fair game uh mason he's been on the show a handful of times
five, six times, I think. He matched with another girl who's been on the show, Alexa, and now they're dating, relationship. Can you pull it up? Pull up the Instagram post? Yay! So they were both on the show. That's awesome. So I'm just saying. So you're doing God's work too. You're matchmaking people. If you get me a billionaire, I'll help him. You take the...
A billionaire on the show or a billionaire as your wife? Both. The male billionaire on the show would be super interesting. I will ask. Put in a word. I will ask. That's all I can ask. The worst they can do is... Murder you. Oh my god. Good for Mason. I'm happy for him. Yeah. W's for Mason in the chat. Okay.
The biggest thing is to talk about what my high value male clients actually want. This is 1% of men that hire a matchmaker with private chats, handsome and tall, not on dating apps. I feel it's important for the girls to learn what that is. I also promote family values, having two sets of twins myself. traditional masculine feminine role similar so feel free to have me debate an OF girl and let's have fun lol you didn't bring any OF girls today though it's unfortunate the one girl out
She didn't do OF. I don't even know what she did. She was like, I do chatterbait in a bathing suit or an explicit contact. I mean, I don't even know what that was. She wants to be a psychologist. I think that's her, right? Look her up. I want to really see what she does. Last few things here. Going around the table, just a show of hands, or just yes or no, actually. Are you a feminist? Yes.
No. No. Absolutely not. No. Okay. I don't think we really have time to get into it. Andrew wants to say something. Do you, Andrew? No, I was just saying I'm a feminist. Oh, okay. Yeah. Oh, really quick. So to the sole feminist, I guess. Do you think that there's a patriarchy?
Do you know what the word patriarchy means? Define it for me. Andrew? Do you know what it means, though? Kind of, but I want you to define it so I can be sure. Yeah, it just means of the father, men are in charge of systems. They're in charge of the home, they're in charge of systems. So do I believe that men are in charge of the household? Yeah, do men have institutional power? Do you think women are oppressed? Not in America. Oh, okay. All right.
Not enough. Not enough. Whoa, what the hell, Andrew? Damn. I thought you were a feminist. Going around the table, would you rather come across a random man or a random bear in a forest? Honestly, a random man. Okay. Yeah, that's a light bulb up there. Man. Oh, shit. Bear, probably. Bear? Uh-oh. Random bear. Random bear. Okay. What about you? Man. Okay. Random man. Why do you pick Pear?
Well, I'm thinking like if I was a man, I would have to have a conversation to convince the bear not to eat me or whatever. But if I cannot have a conversation to convince the bear. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. That's why I picked it to be. a bear because if I was a man, a bear is going to eat me, right? Is it a hungry bear? No, it's just a random bear.
Just a bear. A random bear or a random man? Which you prefer to be stuck in a forest with. I don't think I want to be a man who meets a... You see a bear or you see a man in the wild. Oh, see a bear. In contact with them. Walking, see a man. Walking, see a bear. Which one? Man. Okay. That's like who I want to be. Let's see. Oh, going around the table, do you think body count matters? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yes. What's your body count? Two. Two. Hundred? I don't know.
Fuck, Denmark, sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay. Significant is my husband, one. Let's stick to this. Stop the cap. What's up? I just feel out of respect for my husband and children. I'm not going to answer the question, but it is low, but I just don't feel like that's respectful and he would be unhappy if I would answer that at all. That's totally fair. Thank you. I might have to piggyback for future-wise. I don't want to, but it's low. Morgan. Oh, sorry. One.
For my future husband, I am not comfortable answering this question. For your future billionaire wifey. It's not fair. It's not fair to her, Mackenzie. It's not fair to Mackenzie Bezos for me to answer this question. Sorry, Mackenzie. That's for her. That's for her for when you're married to her. Guys, TTS is going to be 20. We're going to do a roast session for a few minutes, and then we're going to wrap up the show. If you want, TTS is set to 20.
If you want to get a little roast in, if you want to roast Morgan, if you want to roast Anissa, if you want to roast Kylie Lanus. If you want to roast our home, my Caucasian over here, if you want to roast her, you want to roast my three Caucasians over here, you can roast them. If you want to roast this African-American queen. You can too. Let's see. Let me just double check. I'm pretty sure I changed it. I hope I changed it. Is it changed? I think it's changed.
It's changed. Get them in. Roast session beginning now. We'll do brief roast session, then we'll wrap up the show. I want to give a big shout out to Andrew Wilson. He is a gentleman and a scholar. Andrew Wilson, I was thinking about this the other day. Andrew Wilson knows that I have, I am sometimes. Lol Paladins donated $20. Jake and Mason Eskimer brothers now. Alexa spit-roasted. Wait, did Jake rattle his snake, bro?
Is that what you're saying? I think there was some flirtation going on on the show. I don't even know. There's nothing. That's speculation. I don't know if they... I don't think they hooked up. I don't think they hooked up. Mr. Rattlesnake.
I don't think there was anything. I'm just saying. Okay, let's see. What do we have here? Now I've got to ask. Now I've got to ask, right? I mean, I'm going to see him in a week. Now I have to ask. Well, Jake's actually going to be on the show. Yeah, I'm coming out. I'm coming out with him. Wait, for the next week or the following week? What's next week? Because he's coming for... I'm heading over to Timcast, what, the 19th, and then I'm flying right out to Santa Barbara from there.
All right, cool. So, guys, get your, if you want, $20 TTS, a little roast session. You want to roast some Fendom flamingos over there. If you want to roast a... Austrian, German lady, if you want to roast that lady over there, you can. You can roast any of us. Oh, I was about to say Andrew. You know, Andrew, I got to give props to Andrew. Andrew.
He's a good man. Andrew's a good guy. I consider him a friend. Are you my Caucasian, Andrew? Yeah, I'd say we're friends for sure. What about the Caucasian thing? Are you my Caucasian? I'd say we're friends for sure. Andrew? Andrew? It's so cringe, Brian. I can't do it. I can't do it. Andrew? I'm tearing up a little bit. Sorry. Can you... I want you to say that you are my Caucasian.
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Which one? There's a couple on the right. Well, from his perspective, that would be Kylie. Oh. No Also, I forgot this multiply it by three and that's the real number for the body count stuff Why would you think that Why would you think ours is higher than what we said? It's just a law. It's a rule. It's a law. You think if we were really fat and ugly and we told you our body count was two, you'd believe us or would you doubt it? No, it'd probably be higher.
Yeah, we'd be even higher, yeah. Fat Kylie is getting all... She's going hard. You know what, in fact... She's a slut and she knows it. Daria donated $20. W Brixen. W. Andrew. W. Whatever. Great show. Thanks for playing the bow video. You're welcome. And then... GMD Jim donated $20. Brixen, there were plenty of soldiers in Paris in June of 1940. Guess they did not want fertilize the fields. Maybe they couldn't find the forward gear in their tanks. Boom.
France roasted. Hey, Brian. It's so weird. Didn't France surrender in World War II in like three weeks? Didn't they surrender in like three weeks, I think? Was it three weeks? I don't know about three weeks, but the Battle of Normandy was pretty gruesome. Speaking of which, who do you guys think is the primary... Oh, I asked that to the... Fucking demon over there. Who do you guys think is the primary victim of war, men or women? Men. Men. You guys, scoot in. Men. You're too far away. Men. Men.
Both. Men. Men. Okay, more quiz time. When was World War I? Kylie, go for it. You got this, K-Dawg. I believe in you. 1775. To when? To when, though? To when? When was the end date? 1778. World War I dates? I'm going to say. This is my worst subject. I know, me too. Just take a guess. 1764. An ending to 1764. Roast session, boys. 17. Okay, 1770, yeah. I know World War II was 1940 to 1949, I think. The first war, really. World War I? What dates? Just try, just try. You got this.
You did really good on the World War II one. He's making fun of me. Bad, bad history. Anissa, sit down. We were about to wrap. 18-something. We need you here. We need you with your helmet, your war helmet. It doesn't hit the same without you here. I am so bad with history. I am so bad with history. I have no freaking idea. Give us just guess. Intuitively wise. Just guess. Okay, interior wise. 1995. Wait. No. So 1941 was World War II. So 1895, intuitively. I have no idea. World War I?
So it has been a minute since I took history, but I do know, yeah, it's been a minute. It's not what I studied in college either. And I did go to McGill in Canada. I'm originally Canadian. I went to a top school, but I didn't study history. But I do know for a fact that the 1920s, the Roaring Twenties, was when people were celebrating the end of World War I. So I know the dates were somewhere in 1910 to ending before 1920. But I don't know exact dates.
but I will stand by that. Wild guess. 1914 to 1919. Robert Pratt donated $20. Being a mother is so hard. That's why women outlive men by six years on average. Push presence. Cheered. Robert Pratt. That's a very good point. What about you? I'm going to guess 1923. To when? Beelster donated $20.
Which girl do the guests think is the best looking at the table? Oh, I was so close. Also, World War I was 1914 to 1918, idiot. I said 1914 to 1919. The answer is, who do you guys think is the best looking girl here? You can't say me. Reap what you so donated. No, I didn't say I deserved more.
He gives me push presents. I never said I deserve more. I said I'm super grateful for who he is. I never said I want any more from him. Also, as far as this World War II, World War stuff goes. Didn't you fuckers learn anything at college? Well, the Canadian got it, so. Yeah. She was close. Off by one year. Off by one year. Yeah. World War II. Kylie, go. What years were World War II? I always first. Because you're on the right. Okay. 1940 to 1947.
Okay. All right. What about you? 1946 to 1950. I abstain. Anissa! Dilly Bob Thornton donated $20. Andrew, if Trump becomes the 47th president, do we get a $47 flash sale on Debate University? Hashtag plug. No, you have to pay more. Just kidding. Listen, just so you know, if Trump becomes the president of these United States, what we will do with Debate University is sell it to you for $499.
That's very generous of you. It is very generous of you. I already said it. World War II? I already said my world. Okay. Ended in 45. 1945. Started 1939, the beginning of stuff. When did it end then? 1945. Yeah, I was going to say 1939 to 1945, but I believe officially it's like 1940 to 1945. I always thought it ended in 1943 and started around 1940. Did you fuckers learn anything at college? That was good.
That was good. Final thing here, guys, if you want to get... What's the true answer? What is the right answer? 1939 to 1945. Nice. Nice. At this rate, I'm going to end up as a sleeveless crop top before the end of the night. She needs to... Both these girls need to be roasted, by the way. They need to be roasted because they step on men's balls. Go ahead. Kylie, I have a quick question for you. Lol Paladins donated $20.
Mason, find you a girl that looks at you like your girlfriend looks at Jake in episode 154. Oh my gosh. That is... Brutal. That was brutal, dude. That was brutal. Kylie, when do you think the War of 1812 was? 1812. Huh? 1812. Good job. Good job. Good job. Good job. Has anyone guessed wrong to that question before? Very impressive. Good job.
Yes. Many, many people have failed that question. Oh, that's bad. Final thing. Who here is willing to remove their makeup before the end of the show? Just at the very end here. Kylie? But she's not wearing A. She's not what? She's not wearing A. But you just want it? She's not wearing your makeup. She just stole your shit, Brian. She just thieved you. She just thieved your stuff, bro. Fool me once.
You can't fool me again. Now you know why that dude took $7,500 of your money. You're being a jerk like that. Fool me once. Shame on you. Shame on you. Fool me twice. Shame on me. You can't fool me again. Well, you can't fool me. Well, you can't fool me, okay? Will you take your makeup? I will end the stream in three minutes if you take your makeup off. Please don't do it at the table, though. Wait, what? I'm not into that. Sorry.
No, I meant pee at the table. Don't do that, please. Are you down to actually take off your makeup? I'll give you, I'll tell you what, if you guys take off your makeup, I'll give you each. A $2 bill. I'll show you the fucking $2. I have $2 bills in the studio. I will give you a $2 bill and you a $2 bill. Will you do it? You know how much a $2 bill is worth? Like seriously. You know how much that shit is worth?
You know how rare a $2 bill is? I'll show you the... Hold on. I'm going to get it. Hold on. Hold on a little bit. This is crazy. Who the hell would ever turn down a $2 bill? I actually googled it. It is not that much. I had a $2 bill and I think I threw it away. What were you thinking? You guys take the makeup off Here I'm gonna put it up on this hide that please hide that
$2 bill. Yeah, that's a real $2 bill. And then I have a second one. Right there. That's insane. He's got actual $2 bills. You guys are turning that down. That's nuts. Yeah. Do you guys realize? Yeah. What about everyone else? Why are we being targeted? No, we can do it. We'll do it to everybody. Anissa, will you do it for a $2 bill? You'll do it? For real?
Anybody? You guys make up? I don't use that. I need something better. Oh, this is Neutrogena doesn't cut it for you? Neutrogena is very well. Are you going to do it? No. I'm not going to give you one. I just want to say that you can't win. So Alicia Keys didn't wear makeup for a really long time and she just decided to go against it, which like, go ahead. But she got
So much hate. Men and women were just insulting her. Oh, she looks so bad. She looks terrible. She's going to events without makeup. It's disgusting. They do the same thing to Pam Anderson. She doesn't wear makeup anymore. I get it. They're so... mean to her. So you're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. I just want to say. I'll take off my makeup if you take off your makeup. Men don't wear makeup. Well, they do if they're, you know, like broadcasters, right?
Yeah, if they're on camera, and we are on camera. Okay. All right, guys, if you want to get your last-minute chats in, I'm going to wrap up the show here. Let's see. We are going to do a raid for Andrew. We're going to do a raid for... Or raid on Twitch. Let's see who we're going to raid on Twitch. Excuse me. We're going to raid this guy named... Actually, hold on. Will you show us the kickout video? We're going to do Zico. Oh my gosh.
Oh, after the show? After, yeah. Can we see it? Sure. Time permitting, time permitting. I know it is getting late for everybody. I'll wait for that. You brought up that everybody should rate everyone and nobody did. Desiree, you owe me a champagne pop. Just saying Desiree. If that's actually Desiree. I agree. By the way, Desiree, Desiree, Desiree. Rude. Okay. Let's see. What do we have to do? I mean, we've pretty much got everything. Okay, let me...
Wait, can you stop playing with that? It's making noise. Rude. Behave yourself. Rude. Rude. Rude. You okay? You need some Narcan or something? Thought so? All right, guys, I'd like to end the show by seeing if we can't use this moment as an opportunity to give you two a call to action. Would you consider stopping your degeneracy? Entirely. Is that it? Yeah. Yeah, that's... You got to speak into the mic, though. Just get into the table, guys. That's it.
I mean, you want a better pitch. The underscore war underscore within donated $20. Morgan looking nice when she does not have her RBF on. which she did last show, I believe. Wish we heard more of her stories and stuff. Roth underscore PSA donated $20. Interesting panel this evening. Some good interactions. Eyebrow game is on point.
What's your biggest tick? If you guys can do it, like, super quick, like, biggest tick, three seconds each. Go ahead. Men that don't have balls. Hitting... Justin Martens donated $20. Isn't femdom a noxy moron? Femdom? Just moron. F-I-N. D-O-N. Fandom sense for female domination. Yo, Justin, thank you, man. Appreciate it. Lol Paladins donated $20.
Congratulations to the TikTok brain dopamine addicted teenagers for outlasting the old delusional hags that had to go to bed because it was past their bedtime. That's a really good point. Captain Awesome donated $20. That's a good point. I got a tattoo under your name. I now says one of many. I don't get it. I don't get it either. Could be her man. Thank you, Captain. Got a tattoo under your name. Oh.
Yeah. Okay. Biggest dick. Desiree Noel donated $20. Champagne pop for Big Daddy B if everybody goes and subscribe to my Avonle van. Boom. Skipped. Get rekt. Get rekt, Desiree. Desiree, get rekt. Did you see that fucking APM, fucking actions per minute? Like my micro is insane. I shut that down with quickness. Biggest dick. Nonchalant. Nonchalant? Bro, you hit that shit with an AoE. The DPS was fucking insane on that AoE, dude. Just bam. Done. Massive AoE. Massive AoE. Huge. Arcane Explosion.
Blizzard killed it. Okay. Being cheap. Being cheap? Yeah. Rip. It means something that's bad about men. Bad, yeah. Abuse. Okay. Bad hygiene. Yep. Being non-traditional. Like extreme mama's boys. Mama's boys. Mama's boys. Okay. All right. Let's see. Where were we? I got interrupted when something came in. I totally forgot what we were doing. Oh, the call to action. Look, you guys, you're both 18. You're both young. The society you're living in and growing up in has...
How do I say this politely? Has indoctrinated you. Has poisoned you. You're living in a prison of your own mind. Okay, that's just so... Would you consider stopping? It is sex work, essentially, what you guys are doing. Would you consider doing it? You're both attractive women. Perhaps you could get into some, you know, even if you're just doing, like, content creation.
I would like to get into that. I'll just, here, look, I'll read you this again. Whoever fights monsters should see to it then that in the process she does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into the abyss... The abyss will gaze back into you. And I feel like doing this. No, yeah. I feel like I just... I just started so it hasn't affected me as much. It's a perfect time to stop. It is a bit harder. You're an attractive girl. You could model, you could...
Do TikTok dances that are, you know, above the board, hopefully. Stay away from the twerking. You're a very attractive girl, though. I'm just saying, you could... Be a model or something. I've always wanted to try modeling, but I don't know. You're in high demand. Got the half white, half black thing. It's in. Oh my God, why do I say this shit? Okay. And I'll say, for example, I mean, having done the podcast for two years, like it's different than what you guys do, but like...
Like doing this kind of shit, it takes a toll on you. I don't do sex work, but even just doing what I do takes a toll on me. Oh, yeah, I agree. This stuff has to be taking a toll on you in some way. I know, like, look, I make good money. You guys probably make good money or you'll make good money. But is this simple? If you quit right this second, if you quit right now.
I can tell you your future. Your future is you're going to have a lot less money in your pocket in the short term. But, but, here's the good news. This'll just be a funny story that you'll be able to tell your kids one day, and nobody will... Sorry. Morgan, saw you out on the street on the deleted livestream. Not the best look. Hookup culture is going to ruin you.
Unfortunately, this will fall on deaf ears, but maybe in 20 years you'll think it. What? I don't hook up with people like that. With Mexicans? I said, with like... What? She said like that. Oh. Oh, you mean, oh, okay, okay, okay. I thought, because you were talking to like a Mexican guy, so I was like. Oh, I didn't even know he was Mexican.
Andrew, you were saying, I'll pause the TTS here temporarily, then we're going to wrap. Yeah, I was just saying, the one thing that you will have, though, is it'll just be a funny story. And that'll be the end of it. That'll be where it stops, right? Is that one time I tried this stupid thing when I was 18. It'll be a funny story that you can remember fondly, right? Every single day that passes is one more day where that will not be the case.
Until it becomes two years and it becomes three years, that becomes part of what you are and who you are and how you're always remembered. But if you walk away right this second, it'll hurt your wallet, right? But you'll keep every ounce of your integrity if you do that now. Will you do it? Will I be quitting Fyndom today? No. What about you? I sell courses on it, so I can't just quit ASAP. Well, what about you?
I feel like I would have to try something else before quitting. I'll give you a job. Like modeling. I'll give you a job. You'll be a background character. You see that girl sitting right next to you? Here, try the sound on. Anissa, can you just give her yours? Here, try it on. There you go. No, she would be good. What do you think? Feels good, right? Whoa, careful how you raise your arm wearing a helmet like that.
Sorry, bad. It's a World War I helmet, guys. Relax. I'll give you a job. We're always looking to bring on more background characters. Think about it. Is this a serious offer? I'll even give... If you wanted to, you can be... But here's the thing. It's not going to pay as well as what you're doing, but it'll pay. What's the pay? We'll talk after the show.
Okay. I'll tell you after the show. So, wait, you sell a course? I do. How much is the course? 50 bucks. And it's like how to stomp on balls? How do you get started? get started, yeah. There's a lot of girls that try this and they're not successful. Step one, step on the ball. Step two, get money. It's not like marketing yourself. I'm not trying to diminish, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to be rude and diminish your...
It's your opinion. It's a really hard job. Your ebook. I have to type and text them. It's really hard. It's difficult. Andrew's right. You guys are 18 now. This is what you're doing now, and it could just be a funny memory. There's no real proof of it. online like the like the girls that do actual pornography like where it's there forever to haunt them four months for four months you haven't had sex with anybody for money
You just did this goofy thing where they sent you some cash and you told them to do crazy shit, right? You could literally walk away tomorrow and it would be a distant memory before you knew it. Nobody would ever remember it. It would be memory hold for life. Nobody would. ever give a shit. It's the opportunity that nobody ever gets and you have it.
But here's what, now let me predict what your actual future is going to be when you just kind of like say, nope, Andrew, go fuck yourself. I'm not going to do this. Your actual future is this. You're going to continue to do this. It's going to graduate. post wall until you get into sex work and that is all you're going to be known for for the rest of your existence you'll see once that money drives up see you think that money it'll always come easy
It doesn't always come easy. Right now, it's coming easy, and your dumb ass probably isn't saving a dime of it. And, you know, almost nobody ever does, even though they claim they do. In two years, you'd be broke. If money comes in easy, it leaves easy. You'll see for yourself. It's an old story. We hear it all the time. Okay, thank you for telling my future. Can I get a copy of your course for free, by the way?
Because you're the homie, right? We'll talk after, Brian. Okay, sounds good. I'm just curious. I'm like trying to bag like Mackenzie. Yeah, you want to use it on the billionaire I'm going to find you? Let's see. Offer valid. Okay. Let me let the chats come through, then we'll wrap. I'm going to say this. It's an old saying my country uncles and aunts used to say about hard-headed young folks acting like donkeys. Life is gone learnier. You know, it'd be funny if...
I made this offer to all the, like, OF girls, and they all took it, and I literally had a fucking literal army of ex-OF girls wearing fucking World War I pickle hobbas. That would be funny. Doing God's work. Doing, yeah, sort of. But they wouldn't miss it, the work, if they actually connected with God. They would actually feel the purpose. Okay, so I'm pretty sure that's everything. Any final thoughts before I wrap up from anybody?
Sure, I know it's been a long show, guys, so I'm sure you guys are keen to get this going. So, okay, GG. I should have had this pre-pro. GG. Well played. Is the audio boosted all the way? Can you check? GG. Well played. To the panel. Last call. Hit the like button, please. On your way out.
Thank you guys. Thank you guys. If you're still watching, just hit the like button. It helps us out. Free to do. Thank you for tuning in tonight. You could have been anywhere in the world, but you're here with me. I appreciate that. Thank you to everyone who super chats, donates, and so generously. supports the show thank you i appreciate the uh should we do another little k-pop dance or whatever is that the illit one do you know that the the that's the illit one isn't it
Wait, what? Have you seen, like, cosplayers on TikTok? Yeah. Yeah, that's what they do. Oh. I thought you were doing the illit dance from their song. What is it? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, OCD. Illit? Wait, wait, wait. Magnetic. Okay, whatever. You know that one? You know how to do it? Morgan, do it. Okay, okay, okay. I just don't know how, don't ask me how I know about fucking K-pop. Female, okay.
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Oh, I need to do the Twitch raid really quick. Can I have you, Austin, twitch.tv slash zicoftw. Oh, how did you already have it? Oh, wow. Impressive. Okay. Ooh, spicy. Saucy. I wish I said ta-ta, by the way, to these two girls who left here, but whatever. I wrote it down. Ta-ta. Ta-ta. Desiree Noel donated $20. I love all my online content and believe it's beautiful. I don't understand why so many people are disgusted by human sexuality.
It's very childish in my opinion. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Okay. All right, let's go to him. Is the audio on for this guy? Oh, what the fuck? Oh, bro. Get it fixed, please. It's all good. It's all good. It's all good. And then we're going to rate Andrew. Can you pull it up? It's like an address. Oh, wait, really quick. Twitch, pull up our Twitch. It's like this. Normally, you get a... Pull up our Twitch first, I'm sorry. Guys, final thing, if you're watching...
If you're watching on Twitch, pull up the Twitch tab. Guys, go to twitch.tv slash whatever. Last thing. Second to last thing. Drop us a follow on the Prime sub if you have one. Guys, it's been one hour since we've had a Prime. Oh, Armenian.
apostolic thank you for the prime sub guys check if you have a prime sub available just drop as a prime over there on twitch also let's see uh discord uh you don't have to pull it up but guys discord.gg slash whatever discord.gg slash whatever i'm gonna be Reposting the, like, rage, not the rage quit, the kick out, the BTS of that.
Holy shit, this chick's fucking insane. I'll be posting that on the private Discord. Discord.gg slash whatever. Pull up the Twitch. We'll do the Twitch. Then we're going to rate Andrew. If you walk the dogs, then you have probably... Then you have also noted... Oh, F11, F11, F11. Then he says...
N-word. Hey, at the very... Pause the audio. Pause the audio. Yeah, at the very... Desiree Noelsas donated $20. Bro, let me wrap the show, Desiree. I'm a degenerate and I love sexually assaulting people. Oh, wait, that's a... Oh, sorry. That's, that's not, that's, that's like a person. Okay. That's true. All right. Bring it, bring it back. Okay. At the very top, can you literally underscore shaking donated $20 girl? Number two, it's not too late to walk away now.
Your so-called friend is a bad influence. Drop her like a bad habit. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Okay. Pull him back up. Pull him back up. Guys, we need to get this guy. Oh, he's not even playing World of Warcraft. What is he doing? Okay. All right. We'll rate him. Regardless, I'm pretty sure. Let me just double check. streaming right now audio please audio please bottom it's literally look you guys see that at the bottom
He was playing World of Warcraft, but I guess he's taking a break. This guy is one of the best mages in World of Warcraft. Okay, I'm going to send a raid in 10 seconds. We're going to send a raid to Zico. Oh, there it is. He's playing World of Warcraft.
Raid going out in five seconds. Thank you guys so much who watched on Twitch. I'm going to raid Zico. Tell him he should come on the stream. Ask him if he'll come on the podcast. We'll talk about World of Warcraft. He's playing World of Warcraft, the new expansion. guys who are watching on twitch boom raid sent we're just gonna watch him for just a sec here that's fucking crazy man i swear it's so crazy man absolutely
It's crazy, man. It's crazy, bro. I can't believe that. What the fuck? Did you get rated by whatever? Is this the whatever podcast? Holy shit. You can't make this shit up. I swear. Yo, thank you. Thank you. Whatever podcast. And welcome. Whatever wants me on the pod. I don't know about that, bro. I don't know about that. My life is not that interesting to discuss. They just like to talk about girls and stuff, right? What am I going to do? Go there and tell them how many Rank 1 titles I have?
Jealous, mad, angry people. It's kind of not their fault. They live in fear-probably young to even understand their writing, which is their parents' fault. Yeah, no, it's... unreal. I have never experienced, like, the thing is, if I posted this, if I posted that on social media, okay, so all the whatever, guys, you guys just missed a story. Basically, today, I went and picked up. Here, just pause him. Okay.
Alright, and then we are going to do a raid to Andrew. Final thing, Andrew. If you want me to raid you, Andrew, you have to do it. Fuck, I fucked it up. Can you...
Wait, we can't hear you, Andrew. I said where the fingers are going the opposite direction? Yeah, so it's not this, it's not this, it's... opposite direction can you do it yeah i think i can i think i was thinking about it and i think that the trick is you start one and then if you start one i think it'd probably be easier to mentally move the other one I can't do it though. I can't do it. All right, cool. Let's see if there's anything else. No, I think we're all good.
I think we're all good. Okay, guys. 07s. 07s in the chat. Let's see the salutes. We need salutes. Boom. 07's in the chat. I hope you guys have a good night, and we'll see you next time. Good night, guys. Natalia, thank you for the gift of 20 memberships. Okay, good night.