Hi. Hi. Welcome to what we do. Oh, sorry. I'm Daniel. I'm Laura. Welcome to what we thought would happen. And we're here with the brilliantly talented, multifaceted, iconic Margaret Cho. Yay! Yay, yay! Thank you so much for coming. Thank you. A little baby to our cheer cheer. Margaret, you two are what I call road warriors. Like you have gone all the time. Right, Margaret? You're always touring? Yes, a lot, right? Yes, we have a little bit of a break right now. We'll start up again next week.
So that's nice. But yeah, we we've been going on the road for, like even during the pandemic. We did some stuff. Yeah. So, yeah, pretty consistently, which is great. Yeah, I love it. I love. It. But Margaret's tour live in LA. It is 40 years of being a standup comedian, which I think is fucking amazing. So long. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah, She is a road dog. We were just in Niagara Falls. Oh, Buffalo adjacent. Wait a second. And. Yes, Yes, Because. Laura's from Jamestown.
Okay. Yeah. Niagara Falls. But the big European trip. Did you read the news while we were there? There was an escape. Did you see that on the news? Oh, no. On the local news, on the bulletin at the bottom. It was like residents of Buffalo and everybody take shelter and lock your doors and stay vigilant because a murderer was out. But he murdered someone in Jamestown, which the law is from. Oh, wow.
But yeah, while we were out gallivanting around Niagara, they were advising people to stay vigilant. Did they did they find them? I don't think so. They were like also like a ex-military, survivalist person. Wow. Which is like, the best escape. They'll never find them if they went to Jamestown. That's what everybody. Is. Yeah. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Okay, So, wait, when is the first time you guys met? Well, you remember the house on Curson?
Yeah, I think because we lived at the same house on Curson. It was 1865. Curson So we lived there. Laura Milligan lived there. Geri Fanelli lived there from Red Cross. Yeah. Then you and Jack were living there for a while. Yeah. Yeah, we moved in after everyone moved out, I think. Yeah, pretty much like a year later we did. It was like a communal. Kind of kind of comedy. Like, you know, what about houses that, like, every comedian, like, rents a room?
Greg Barrett lived there. Yeah. From person lived there, really. And, you know, it was kind of like all the comics from San Francisco. We're all friends kind of because of Jeanine Garofalo, because she was friends with you. And then I was friends with her. And then we both idolize. You know how crazy like the beautiful, funniest tallest was, you know, just elegant lady, but also so funny. So it was like a really. Well, that's not how it was at all.
Yeah. See, I tell Laurel every time you come in the room, it was like the everybody would just stop. And Laura has a president, maybe a David Cross. And, yeah, we would always talk about how, Oh, yeah, you're the most beautiful woman in the world. You no more. No greater beauty has ever lived. Oh, my God. Well, look how far it's gotten me. But, Margaret, I thought that I. And I still do about you. And I also was going to say that we met.
I think that Luna Park was a big part of it because of Beth Lepidus. Yeah, yeah. Did it overlap when you all were there? Yeah, we're roommates. Yeah. Because you were in the front room. Mm hmm. And then I was in the very, very back room. And who had. The better room? I think my room was a good room because I had a separate entrance to and it was also next to the washer dryer of our bathroom. Separate entrance as immediately sexy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was like, really?
Like in the in-law unit. Yeah. Yeah. So it felt very like I would have been in Nice terms. But this, you know, it would have been an Airbnb. Mm hmm. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I remember that there were one or two really fun parties at that house. Yeah, Yeah, Great parties. Always. It's just fun because there's always something happening. Because there was always comics in town. Yeah. Especially during pilot season.
People would come and they would, like, stay for a week or two or, you know, And then always the comics from Boston would come. Yeah, it was always Boston guys. So then we would always host people like Paul Kozlowski or like Ron Lynch or any of the like San Francisco, Boston people. Yeah. Did you before you got your show in the nineties, were you going up for pilots and stuff like that before it. Yeah. Just have like score sitcom gig and anything.
Yeah. I mean, I auditioned for Michael Mann's Heat. I auditioned for Wayne's World, I auditioned for Roma and Michelle. I auditioned for Clueless. I auditioned for I mean, all of those movies, every every movie that was a movie I was up for at some point. Amazing. But never, of course, never got you know, we were all just sort of going and very young. We would go to the farmer's market in the morning and have coffee and breakfast, and then do comedy at big and tall books.
Did you do that? Yep. I was thinking of the soup plantation. That was kind of our hang remember in the mall, right. Janine and Margaret in Carol. And Griffin. And Kathy and Laura milligan. We would go there. That was our big meal then. The mall. Hmm. Yeah, I remember. That big. Meal at the super plantation, which was like, all of that food would just sustain you for the rest of the day. Yeah. And Colin Quinn was around Bob ODENKIRK, all of the Mister show guys.
Yeah, Yeah. Mr. Show is still the funny. The first time I ever hit a bong. Sorry, It always comes back to that. But the first night it was watching Mr. Show, I sneaked out of my house as a teenager and just instinctively I put my mouth around the bong, you know, instead of like in a generic, like, put my lips around the glass, which was like the glass or iced tea. I totally did that. And my friends were trying to act like it's normal, right? But the bong. And then we watched Mr. Show.
I love. That. But that's so cool that you were hanging out. And so everyone was at the mall and some plantation and seeing each other at shows. MM Yeah. And you know, we would all go to shows. We had like also the Largo show, which was Monday, Sunday was on Gab, Monday was the Largo show. Or we'd do like something on Pedro's, something on Vermont. Right. And then the rest of the week there were shows, Thursday was cocktail club. That remember.
Cocktail club list of all things where that was my maybe a little bit later on, which was people were really into swing dancing. Oh. That reminds me of like, I remember the derby for that. So yeah. But also I loved Largo when it was it used to be on Fairfax. Yeah. Yeah. That was, I mean that was the best. I hated that nineties swing dance like revival. I hated that era. It was. It's so gross. It is super gross to like, but like that one squirrel and that zipper song. Yeah. Was good.
It's really I mean it's not not really offense any offense to the individual like bands at hand or the music style in general. Yeah just the weird basic ness of it that grows. Did your parents ever come? Has Polly ever come to see you or your parents? Your parents have been. This, you know. Yeah, they can. Yeah. But they don't come any more because my mom can't hear. So it's really hard for her to understand what you're doing unless she's right in front of you.
And she can sort of read your lips, right. Because she's just like losing her hearing, right? Pretty much like, completely. We went to Disneyland this last week, like, Oh. Well, your parents were in town. Yes. Margaret, One question. Yeah, go figure. Lunch and Margaret, your parents are together? Yes. Okay. That's pretty amazing. Yeah. Yeah, They just moved to a really fancy assisted living. Oh, great. In Irvine. It's kind of the dream. It's. It's nice. Yeah. Yeah. Probably ever come
see you perform? Yeah. I was in my twenties, and I was somewhere at a college before I went on stage. We were staying there and she said, you know, don't say the f word. And so of course I got on stage so well. My mom asked me not to say Fox, so I'm going to trying to go in anyway. And then afterward, this is the highest compliment I think, of my mom has given me. She said, Well, they seem to like you, huh? Oh, that's right.
Though my parents came to it like a taping at a small at the West Side comedy thing. We did a filming there, which is a small room, and it was well lit and my mom was at the back of the room. But we sort of inherited a thing where I watch comedy, like if I'm watching television stuff I like, I like a look of it. Like whenever if on my laptop it like the scene fades to black, I can see my reflection in the screen is usually just a like a furrowed brow.
So I'm like up there performing on TV and I can see my mom at the back of the room and she has that same face. So I'm sure she's horrified by what she's seeing and hearing. Oh, that's just like her TV face. I remember thinking that like, wow, I'm like, I'm like doing it like, living in I'm looking at my mom like she is a horrified at her fagot son. No, they're great. We were in Disneyland. And that's just when I realized they're old. I was like. They came for. How long they were here?
They stayed with. You were like four days. But it feels like a much longer time. Yeah. I'm so glad. Know. No, they got here Monday. We went to Disneyland. I went with my nieces. Everybody thought I was their dad, which is like, That's cute. It was cute. But I was like, Why? Why bother correcting them? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, why bother? But we went on all the rides. I mean, all the villains and but it was like, I don't like being a uncle. Yeah. You're a cheerleader.
Yeah. You're this weird family cheerleader. I'm like, I'm also not the kind of person who has the patience for kids. It's like, I want to go on the haunted ride and see all the, like, dark shit. I think Disneyland is best if you're young or on psychedelics. Yeah, right. Yeah. Have you ever done an amusement park out here? I've gone to Disneyland, but it's been so long, I can't remember the last time. I think maybe when I worked for Disney in the nineties. Right.
So when you went to Disneyland, if you're a Disney employee, you were like, in, like their movies or TV shows, you get to bypass all of the lines. Wow. You have a Disney like a liaison, somebody in like a I think it's like a plaid vest. And they carry you around. Yeah, they walk you around and you pass all the lines and you get whatever food you want for free. And you can ride and eat right as many times as you want and get anything you want. It's like very much this elite experience.
So I don't know if I would be able to go back any other way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can fit in with with the common people again. I feel like that's the other thing. It's like it's very, it's very cruise ship. It's like a cruise ship smash into a cartoon. And you both have done stand up on a cruise ship, which to me would be hell on earth. It is. It's really hard. It's hard. Have you ever I get seasick.
Have you have you ever done a show which wasn't great and then you had to keep running into the same people that were in the audience? Yes. She's the worst all queen. We were in Colombia, a beautiful country, and I ran and Cartagena and I some old queen came up to me and goes, I enjoyed your show, although it was quite offensive. I was like, How could I have found an old game? You know what I mean? I'm like, I am an old gay man. How can I offend someone from my generation?
And also, why would anybody come up and say that, yeah, that is so rude. Like, am I supposed to make an adjustment? That's how I felt. I was like, that kind of a critique. It's just a weird thing. It's like that when people say, I like you, doesn't matter what anybody else thinks. Oh yeah, it is like the word. Yeah, yeah. Very much like they seem to like you thought. You were funny. Yeah. Oh, boy. You're the smart one in the crowd. Okay, I didn't get you two gay cruises.
Yeah. Yeah. Did you ever do a straight cruise as a comedian? Yes. Is that which is harder. Awful in different ways. Yeah. Only because I such as. I'm like a landlubber. I get super seasick. Jeez, the one thing. I did. Was. I got very into just staring out my window at the open sea. Right? I got into that. I was more disturbed when I had to go out and, like, mix with cruise people just to get food at a bar. Margaret, what do you do if you're sister? You just stay in your room.
Yeah, And take a lot of Dramamine and wear those weird, like, bracelets that, like, push down on the pulse points that keep you from being seasick and in so much pain, too. It's awful. Oh, it's awful. Yeah. Don't ever go again. Either of these. Drownings kind of fun, because it really puts you sleep. Yeah, it's really. It's just. Yeah, it's pretty much fentanyl. It's just like OxyContin to me. I just don't like being in a ship. I don't like the feeling. I don't like the esthetic.
So that's part of it. We talked, I think I said, but we docked with the like I was not cruising with the gay people. I was there to perform. Right. So everybody's fucking having a great time. And I'm just kind of in my room watching as much cable as I can. And then we docked in Key West with like a Disney boat. And then you saw all the families in the theater coming out of that. I was like, You know, I love my Fagot boat. It was like, It's so much better. Like I would trade that any day.
It's like screaming children. So but you get to do you get to stay at the destination for any length of time. Like wherever you're cruising to, you're. Hiding from everybody. All the time. Yeah, it sort of depends. It depends on where you go, But usually you're only there for like the day. I went to Costa Rica to perform and. And Laura gave me all these Costa Rican coins to lug to the country to spend because you cash them out of the airport in a pill caddy.
That's my favorite part, is she gives me like, I'm. I want to be. Buried in a pill, carry me. Cremated and we'll spread your ashes on each day. We can do that. Saturday's on its. Way. That's actually. The best. That'd be great merch, like funeral merch. And my God, that's a great way. Distribute your Ashes. My aunt carried her son around in like an old cigaret case and she just flick it over. He wasn't and. He would just bond with weight.
I always thought that you had done a cruise or been on one. Fuck, no. I'm afraid I don't even know what I mean. Like, my confidence always comes and goes like I only very recently got comfortable doing weekend nights out shows. What? Yes, because I totally kind of don't care anymore. Margaret. I worked as I drove until I had a brain aneurysm two years ago. So thanks again. I'm still here. I am. Can you hear the bitterness? There was. Yeah, I'm still here.
I could have let me die in my sleep, which is what I've always wanted to do. But he had saved me. And to be the martyr and saving. Yeah. So I almost had the kind of sexy death of William Holden. I must bled out. Now. You know? Yeah. Yeah. In my brain. Yeah. Yeah. Were you, like, surrounded by rose petals and all that? Like candlelight. That's how you got to do it. Oh, no, no, but no. But instead, I was in the hospital and had to say yes to brain surgery. Okay, wait.
They had to sign something. What? Yeah, before it happened? Yeah. I mean, for all I know, they could have said. Would you, like, you know, you just bought a boat. Yeah. And we're going to send you off on it. Yeah. I don't want a lollipop. Yeah, I couldn't. I couldn't really tell what I was doing. I was just signing my name. Are you okay? And who do I make this to? And. And can I ask you questions about the surgery? Yeah. Are you aware. Of it in the surgery, I.
No, you're. Out. Yeah. Okay. Crazy. Yeah. And then when you wake up, does it feel like, Oh, my God, someone's been messing with my head? No. Right. Just like I was really happy with. The worst of it was what Garrett went through. Yeah, because I on the way there. Because you were backseat driving, even though you were having an you. No, I didn't want to go because it was. It was during COVID. I don't care what happens, I won't boss you around.
It was during COVID and I knew enough to think, Oh, I'm afraid to go to the hospital, you know? And then when we went, we got in the car. Finally, Garrett said, Come on, I think we should go for a drive. And, you know, because I'm a dog at heart, I said, okay, I'll. Go for a ride. I want to go for a ride. So I got in the car. And then and then. He said, Do you know where we're going? And I said, Yeah, I think it's good. We're going yoga, babysitting.
Yeah. Which sounds like something that could happen. Yoga, babysitting. Yeah, totally. I buy it. Yeah. Yeah. But it's not with him. Yeah, true. The things I would never do Yoga. Yes. That's how I knew something was wrong. Yeah. So then he had to worry, like, okay, I am not making any sense and who knows why. Yeah. And so then when I got there, they said, well, my brain had been bleeding for three days and I had to get brain surgery.
But yeah, I had to sign and say, well I might not make it through or might be, you know. You may as well have gotten on a. Reversible at that point. Yeah. Yeah. And how does that happen? How do you have an aneurysm? Right. Well, this is the bullshit of it. They don't know and they say it's stress or dehydration. Oh, I really think it's from I think it's from hitting my head a lot. Well, wait, because I'm so fucking clumsy. I'm always falling up and down stairs. I can't get my head.
We got to get you a one storey house. I know, but I really think. I think it could be. Well, I mean, he did say it could be. It's rare because this is just for sports figures. Multiple head injuries. Like. Yeah, what did you play? Oh, none. But I've fallen on my head a lot. Huh? Would you play skating or. And field hockey was all I could do. Did you ever play sports? I played basketball and I was on a swim team. You're always saying Lakers basketball? Yeah, as you say that.
But not as a as I was. I said when I was a really young teenager. Never in adulthood. Yeah, I was never like, one to, like, go to, like, who is it like Garry Shandling's house and play basketball. Sarah Was. That and you said. Sarah would go and do that? Yeah, like Sarah and Wayne Fetterman and all those other people. Like anybody who would go to Dave Ralph's house. Oh, I would probably go when we go to Dave Roth's house.
But we were probably they were all going at late, like on the weekend to Garry Shandling's to play basketball. He was a basketball guy. He's like, Prince Yeah. So what, you lived in a comedy house? Was that something like a place that people came and like, were comedians just trying to work and then eventually moved out like more people would come in sort of thing?
Or Yeah, well, it was like, you know, we all comics like in the nineties would and Ron Lynch had one in San Francisco that you stayed at. Yeah. And it was near the one that so and then I had one that was near Ron's and the one that was right a block away from mine was Peyton Blaine and Brian Posehn. So we were all in the Richmond district. So it was the, the house that was it was Alex Reid, Ron Lynch and Jim Earl.
Yeah. Comics would just get these apartments and hopefully like rent control and then basically just split the rent. And then so if you went to Boston, you would probably have the equivalent like if you were a comic, you were probably able to go. You also had to be funny. We had people that we hung out with were funny. Yeah, that was lucky. That was lucky. But it was also, you know, self determined. Like we were always very conscious of whether the person was funny or not.
There were never any hacks, no question. Hi. That's right. No puppets. No puppets, no prop acts, no nothing. But I never felt like an alt comic because I didn't have the guts to just go on stage and fuck around. I always had to write everything out first and do it. Oh yeah, yeah. That's still always too. I mean, alt comedy doesn't mean go on unprepared or. Like winger. You know that. Also, it would bother me too. Later on, later sort of iterations of quote unquote alt comedy was just bullshit.
Yeah. Yeah. You know. Like, yeah. So like, weird like, I don't want to just have like stream of consciousness. S I want to point to the story thing. See, I struggle with that, especially that was very controversial. I like crowd work because like Paula POUNDSTONE was great, a crowd work, right? But like 20 years before, that would be hacker shit. To ask a question from the audience, like to beg the material.
But anyone who's waited tables or bartended for a thousand years know that like small talk with strangers is a survival mechanism. It's not. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's where I draw the line. Just because I'm like, I've had to suffer through making boring people exciting, you know? It's like I've done that for a living. Well, I'm fine. I would never say, How are you guys doing tonight? Because I never wanted to know the truth. Yeah, I would never know. I mean, I just don't.
I wouldn't know how to react to what the answer is, So they don't care. It's just that I don't want to have to think on my feet right now. Craft Right there. Yeah. What was your first TV gig writing? You mean were you on screen? On camera? What was yours? Mine was a show that was like a candid camera show, and it was called Totally Hidden Video. Yeah, it was on Fox. Yes, I was a maid who couldn't speak English, and I was in a trailer which would gradually fill up with barnyard animals.
Yes. Well, I was also trying to clean it. And people were coming in as prospective renters. Yes. And one of the people who came in, this man tried to sexually assault me, another person, She was like, oh, he's trying to like, run, run, run around with the animals. There's like all this chaos happening. Yes. So that was like and I think it was like 16 or 17. How was that in San Francisco's Was that out. Here or New York That was here in L.A.. Oh, okay.
Another job I got was on a TV show, which is so weird and I cannot say the name, but it was it was a very famous I'll tell you what, if we were in our class, there was a Zarqawi show, but it was like a thing happening on an island which is already creepy. The star, the male star, a very, very famous person, you know, was also on it. And he wanted to go out to dinner with me after the filming.
And so then when I went out with him and then he got gradually drunk and drunker, and then he tried to come to my room, then I just shut it and I turned the lights off and I just laid in bed really quiet. And then he called me and he was so drunk. By the time he called me, he was crying about his model girlfriend. He didn't understand. Oh, my God, So scared. And then I just was like, I just. I hung up the phone and I just shook all night, like, so terrified.
And, you know, it was able to fly off the island the next day. Where is it? David Copperfield? No, that weird. I'll tell you after. Okay. Okay. Okay. That's awful. It's so scary. You're all just trying to go for a job. Yeah, I've seen him since, and it's like, you know, he does it. He either doesn't remember. It's also like I've had. You know. Can I ask you one more hint, Margaret? It. Was he part of a team? No. No, I was going to guest Penn Jillette. No, no, no. He called me once.
I was the one who talks too much. The tall one. He called me when I was in Vegas bombing, and I was like, How did he get my room? I guess he just everybody knows. Well, the comics are there. And he asked me if I wanted to join him in the hot tub with Blondie. And I want and I want to say, could you leave? And I could just sit with Blondie. And anyway, I was afraid to go anyway. Shit on the road. I would love to meet Blondie, though. She's great. Oh, you. Of course you guys would be friends.
She's my friend. Beautiful. Yeah. Margaret knows every famous person. Yeah, I know a lot of them, but a lot of good ones. Did you see some bad ones? Sheila E just got her star on the Walk of Fame. Oh, that's great. She brought her, like, drumsticks. Like, tap on them. They're like bongos behind her. Amazing. But Ringo was there. Oh, yeah? Yeah. You're fucking. Friends with. Ringo? Yeah. That's so crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Are you. Are either of you starstruck by people anymore?
Yes. Really? All the time. Yeah, all the time. The ones. The last night of Norman. How about I struck a star? Well. I didn't tell you about this band. No. Jesus Christ, Margaret. This happened yesterday. I was driving in the afternoon, I stopped the crosswalk. I always stop at the crosswalk for a long time because. Because I'm worried about squirrels and animals and people, too. And I stopped, and I was listening to ways, and I'm so excited that I finally figure it out. And it's so easy.
Everybody knows about me. But I was trying to do exactly what she said when she said, Take a right and I almost hit Mark Ruffalo. Oh. Oh, amazing. Do you remember my Chinese bed? That was I don't know if you came to my house when it was in off, of course. And I went move to Bellevue. You have a beautiful. I remember. That must be so. Mark Ruffalo worked at the furniture store that I bought it at and put it together. Oh, my. He's the only one that knows how to put it together and take it apart.
So when I moved, I wanted to ask him if I could just pay him his SAG Day rate. I didn't know how I was going to get this bed out because he was the only one who knew how to put it together. Oh, on me. So I have seen him since then and he's assured me that any time I need it move to, he will do it for me. What is it? First of all, he's one of these guys. Gary, forgive me. He he's gorgeous. And he like, he just know that when he rolls out of bed, he looks like he does. Yes.
Anyway, and I was wondering when I hit him. All right. I think I tapped. I think I just tapped his I don't know what break his. Body or his car. No, no. I threw my body against, you know, I was in my car. He was walking on the crosswalk, you know, it was like Midnight Cowboy, like he he had to put his hand on the hood of the car, like. Oh. Like I'm walking here. Yeah. And then I looked up and shock. I didn't see him. And then he looked at me, seeing that I was in shock.
And then it was like, kind of like, you know, realize. It's just. A mirror, you know? And then he just and he just walked across the road. And then I felt sick about sick about it all morning. And after that, should I have, like, gone up and drove up and said, I'm sorry, but then would have thought I was like a nut, you know? Oh, no, I got a pitch that's a moment in entertainment. Like you have to, like, make the connection. Although he used to be the bartender at Lucky on Hill Hurst.
Oh, I love that bar. Yeah, that were you did you did stand. We did stand up there, too. Yeah, I probably had it more. Yeah, that. But yeah, he was a bartender there. It's hard when you know, somebody who was not a star before. Yeah. And now they're like, huge star. It's like, Oh. Oh, yeah. Well, it's kind of. Like, I know you, Margaret. You're a huge star. I knew you before. So y'all used to perform on shows together all the time, right? Yeah. Yeah. I've felt done television together.
We did the thing with Kathy and Janine for Pam. Okay, Well, they were trying to put together the female version of kids in the Hall. This is in the nineties. So Pam Thomas produced Kids in the Hall wanted to do that. So she got me. You, Janine, Kathy. So somebody else? Sarah Silverman, maybe. I don't remember. I. I was still like she was in New York then. Maybe it was Melissa Samuels. Yes, it was Melissa and Melissa. Yeah. And, and. You will do. Is that what you're saying?
That's what Margaret just said. We're interchangeable. Handy is interchange of the at the Groundlings. Yeah, So. And we did. Yeah. Yeah. I was just gonna say I was the only one that couldn't dance at all. Oh, you could dance? No, no, you guys. Laura, you and Laura milligan picked it up really fast, and I think you had to dance, so. Yeah, we did a little. We did a little nine dance. Yeah. Line number. Which test drove it? TV show? Yeah, The Groundlings.
And it was like the female version of the kids in Hollywood with the same esthetic and the same thing. But I think that was all we did. Yeah, I do remember what it was called. Brick house. Oh, brick house. Yes, it was. Is that what it's called? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. I can't believe I can remember. That's so. Smart. Wow. Well, we describe that was as something I got to and, like, had to write a bunch of stuff together. Yeah, Yeah, we did sketches, and I did.
I really couldn't remember what the sketches were, except for the line dancing and something. I don't think people realized that, like, the game is so much of like, throwing all these ideas and like, Oh, not anything that'll work, but almost anything that'll work, right? Like years of trying. And it's like, all these things, these people you come across. Yeah, I. Can't pitch. For shit. Well, I don't think people realize it's that continuous, right? You have to kind of leave
ideas. In the past. Yeah. Like, what does that like? Because, like, especially in the nineties, right? It wouldn't like everybody. Like comedians were getting sitcoms all the time. That seemed to be the through line. That was a trajectory, trajectory. The but yeah, like it was also sketch was like, you know, this kind of new thing where people were trying different things. One of the sketches I remember from Brickhouse was me and Laura milligan did Spike and Mrs. Lee, which it was a me.
It was Mrs. Lee was an old Asian woman in love with a young punk rocker. And it was Laura, but she was like in a mohawk with bald cap. And I was like, on the edge, makeup really old. And we were like, There was just a weird May-December, like Harold and Maude. Yeah, but it was just Margaret and Laura. It was really. You know, she's great. She's really great. Oh, not, you know, she was a good old, old friend, but. But this sketch was also allowed to be really surreal.
Yeah. That's why, like, Mr. Show really thrived. Yeah, Like Ben Stiller Show, which only went that one season, but still, like, they were able to get very surreal with it or the state. Yeah, yeah. But I also think too, as for even even today, like male comics can go a lot further. Other than Roseanne and Joan Rivers, it's pretty hard, you know, for most women comics to sustain a career in front of the camera. I think. Yeah, I know. I want I feel like it should change.
You know, it should it should change with, I think, our era of comedians like Wanda Sykes. Really? Well, you know, the people in our age group I think are doing really well. So your elders, yet you're not there. You have like, you know, if we're thinking about, like comedy is like what's coming up, what's going to happen? Like, I would hope that we'd be able to sustain something.
Yeah, queerness I want to ask back in the nineties was green is a part of your like all-American Girl story or was that something you didn't? We couldn't do it because it was like they were so controlling about anything like that. But I was always like hanging out with the queers. Like everybody would come over to my house and it would be like me and Scott Thompson from Kids in the Hall.
Yeah. Leah DeLaria Just getting a high at my house, but and we would go to like play functions and do all that sort of AIDS fundraising stuff, but it was just not as big of a deal as it is now. Totally. It existed in Hollywood, existed for sure, but it was definitely different. By the way. Now I have to plug that. We're doing well. Daniel and I are doing the LGBTQ. I want to say I. But that's not It hasn't been added, has it? I implied.
Yeah. Okay. It stands for implied. Okay, We're being Comedy Festival on August 12th. Is it LGBT or is it the Burbank? Oh, yeah. But that our night is LGBTQ and I would be. Why am I there? Because I have a queer. I have a question, but it's not about sex. You're in my question. I'm questioning. And my question is, what is the point? You're an ally that you are. You're an ally. You get to be the A. This is Cover my balls. Oh, jeez. Remember? They're good. Yeah, I used to do it. Well, well, well.
You know, that happened because Lizz Winstead and I were hanging out, and I'm by the way, I want to give a shout out to Liz because I'm so impressed with what she's doing, like helping women with her organization, the Abortion access front apartment, which is I mean, but anyway, Liz and I, this is we're in New York. We're walking across the street and there is this beautiful drag queen that was walking by and I said, I want to be that famous, that drag queens dress like me when I'm dead.
So I did this whole bit about, you know, you see my balls in this. Gown or whatever, you know. Like, that's the height of fame I kind of is now. It really fucking is. I like that voice. Yes. I think I want that to be my ringtone. Oh, I don't know. I don't not. But I think. Have you ever dragged up? Have you ever gone out in drag? Every day. So as a man or woman. Oh, never shut up. Sometimes I put on f I put on, you know, Spanx. I feel like, Am I going to get away with it?
Mm hmm. Can it pass as a woman? But I always thought, like, okay, that that would be probably now an honor. But can you ever be as famous or as well liked as a shoe? Who shoe? Well, you know, when people around the block waiting for a shoe for shoes. Right? That's like nobody is. Yeah, that's like a strictly shoe. A shoe drop. Yeah, right. Yeah. I only see that in L.A.. And I don't ever notice what the specialness of the shoe is.
You know, it's like a weird thing of, like, I don't know why this is so important. Yeah, it's. It's like a who made it or just a collection that. Yeah, the number or whatever it is. But yeah, I don't understand. You moved to L.A. in the eighties. I moved to L.A. in 1991. And when did you move to L.A.. Laura Oh, I was back and forth. Let's see. Yeah, I moved, I think, in 89 or 90. So. But you used to tour.
Well, I was all the time I was staying down here before I would still I've been coming back and forth to do comedy things since 1986, probably. Yeah. So and then finally move, move. Did the big move in 1990. One and like in the old days would you would like how would you book yourself in like the eighties and the. Nineties. I would tag on to like other big female headliners and get to open for them and then they would just bring me on on the road. So I opened a lot for Brett Butler at the time.
Amazing. And then I worked a lot with Greg Proops at the time. Yeah, I love Greg, so, you know, I would just attach myself to like certain headliners and kind of just work with them, which was a great way to get stage time. And also some sort of work safety. Yeah, which is really good. But then you would call and then you would get to know these bookers who would just book you for like all these rooms that they were running. MM hmm. And then I got management and an agent pretty quickly.
Yeah. So then I was sort of like, outsource that. And then I worked with a management firm later who managed Michael Jackson fantasy. So weird. Amazing. And Roseanne and Dolly Parton. Super weird. Wow. That's. Yeah. Have you ever met Dolly? No, not yet. But she did send me a box of her make up in the nineties. Wow. Yeah. We. She had to make a. Plane should a makeup line and a fragrance and some skin care too, which is cool. Yeah. So I'm sure I have some somewhere that's.
Making it to me and somebody I remember. Laura always ask that. How do you know when you've made it? I can't wait to find out. That. I remember. Well, Janine and I were on SNL together and there was this gal. It was. It was David's very sister in law, gave Janine this really cool kind of vinyl purse, like this really cool bag. And that was Kate Spade. Right? Oh, really?
Shit. Like so the last night of before COVID ruined everything, I was on tour with Margaret opening for her in Oklahoma City, and Orville Peck was a country singer was there, which is that's when I learned I don't know how to be famous because I talk too much. That's one of the times. But she gave me he gave her a bunch of merch stuff and Marjorie gave me a handkerchief of Orville. And I remember they, Oh, that's so cool. But then I wore it as a mask for the next, like, three months.
You know what I mean? But that was one of the things where I realize how many people work on the road and how many like you're talking about like job safety and things like that. Like, were you ever. Laura Like a road comic? No, you never I like ed it so much on the road. And plus, I remember just looking for something to eat, you know, at midnight at these places, like I was like a raccoon foraging along the side of the, you know, the dumpsters.
I would, you know, like the only place open for food night when the bar was closed and everything was like a 7-Eleven or something. So I'd be like getting a hot dog or a donut and then walking back to my hotel room and just thinking, This is not it. This is not the life. Oh, see, I like I like going we like going to the 7-Eleven. Yeah, I really enjoy a gas station. Like a gas station near a gas station? Well, I just. It felt lonely and like, man, this sucks. I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, I guess it depends on like, oh, the level of comfort that you have with something like a gas station buffet of, like, pickles or sour candies. Yeah. I do really like a honey burn. Can get you, like, a day's worth of stuff. By the way, this episode is brought to us by brought to our listeners by combos. But yeah, there's something survivalist about, like the journey that I'm like, the food is just the thing to get me to the there and back. So I kind of like, Oh. Yeah, yeah.
It's like I'm trekking. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I, I do like going on the road just because it's, I'm so used to it and like the one road gig that would like, really messed me up was Janine. I did that college tour with The Knack, a thing where you had to do 21 shows in a row. That's amazing. But I did do the South by Stack. Did you have to do the thing first where you sat in like a a kind of a booth and the college kids had to pick you? Yeah. Okay.
So that was. Yeah, I remember the humiliation of that. I never got picked. I sat there, the horrible, horrible event, but then we would just have to do all these shows and then drive from state to state to go to another show and you would make a lot of money. But it was so soul sucking. Yeah. Horrible. And you're not really. Well, I don't know. In my experience with those you're not really performing is one like you're literally giving a speech. Yeah, just getting by.
Oh, yeah. By Paul Kozlowski had a good, I thought, a good way of describing that. He said it's like being a bull rider in a rodeo. You're just trying to stay up for your time. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, totally. Yeah, I wouldn't. Would you? Do you didn't check as well? No, I mean, I did it, but never got chosen. Or maybe there be. I feel like there are always two or three young girls who maybe even my age or a little bit.
Yeah, well, no, I guess they were younger because they're high school or whatever, and and they would talk to me the whole time and I, I would like kind of maximize their time because I didn't want it to seem like nobody was there talking. To you. Trying to get they were trying to leave. And I was like, So what do you so what's what's it like there at the you know. For people listening, you perform, you audition for college kids and then you have to go.
In most cases you have to go to like conventions and other. College kids. Where you have a booth essentially set and everybody has their own booth. And it's a total essentially popularity contest. They just fill in whether they want to have you. But it's like, you know, if you do the shows, then they decide from there. But it's just who knows? Yeah, yeah. I remember AJ Moore was probably next to me in a booth and he it seemed like a lot of people, a lot of the kids liked him.
I love Jay Moore. I hate that. That's like he is really funny, but he reads very like toxic masculinity because he's got such a neck. You know what I mean? Is this sweet guy. Yeah, he's. So sexy though. And he's a really good guy. There's few things that make me feel like a man, but he has a joke about where you play a video game until you just fall asleep on a couch. That's like the male way of falling asleep. I was like that. I related to that. That's the only male thing I ever related to.
What is your next gig? Because this is going to probably go out next week. So this week when this comes out, we'll be in Ontario on Friday. Is it Friday? Friday, Saturday and Sunday at the Improv there. Said it? I think so, yeah. There's the improv there. And then after that, what do we have? There's still local like library or something.
I'm sorry, I don't know. Yeah. Then we're like in Irvine and maybe Brad there's a few like things happening and then in November, well, what will resume other tours, touring stuff in September. But in November we're at the New York Comedy Festival. Oh, fantastic. That'll be fun. Do you guys still have to do morning interviews, Radio stuff? Yeah, but not. Not for this tour specifically. But yeah. Yeah, I always thought that was hell. I thought. Heard. Yeah. Getting up.
First of all, I'm never awake until about 4:00 in the afternoon. And so getting up at seven or eight and having like a college kid or somebody like drive you to the radio station. And I thought if anything I'm convincing people not to go to the show because. I'm. Tired, I sound like a fucking drag like I always do. I'm so obsessed with local news anyway that I love to like tag along. But one time I was watching local news on the road with murder and just happened to see like.
Coming up next is Margaret Cho. I was like, Oh my God, Oh, my. The segment. It's fun because Lucia likes it. Oh, she's always a big hit at the station. Like sometimes they'll have other adoptable animals. Oh, that. You can tell them what this life is like. Yeah. Oh, that's sweet. I miss. Like. That in Texas, the or in Austin.
The local news, they would have it was like wild or they had it like vet Wednesday where there'd be like an animal, like a veterinarian and you could call in and ask, but it's Texas. So people would be like the family bobcats, like ears and family and all this other wildlife going on, like all these exotic animals. Like we got a snake, had baby. Something we never had. So we sell them and you get all that and it's like. My son get an alligator pregnant.
It sure. Is. But it always feels like we're just like puppies and kittens. Questions like, What's so funny? But it is very Texan. There's a tiger sanctuary south of Dallas that I really want to go. Oh, that's incredible. I know. Like, that's what. It's a field trip. Yeah, that's really incredible. You tourist? A little bit when you go on the road. Very little. I used to do more. You know, every once in a while I will. I mean, I do love to just, like, lay down all day.
So that to me is, like, really fun. Especially if we do morning radio, then I'm like, so tired for that's the job and shows are tiring. It makes me nervous to get like away from the venue. Yeah, right. Like it gives me anxiety. Oh yeah. Had to go out the. Door. Away from it. Yeah. I remember this kid was really excited about showing me around Saint Louis. Saint Louis. And we went to the bowling museum and I was like, I should be home, you know, drinking everything in the minibar.
And then the arch and so I was like, Wow. So half of the McDonald's and bowling says, This is where I am. That's the whole city. Yeah, I was a party at Wash U 23 years ago, and it was yeah, And someone spiked my drink with ecstasy, which. Was like. Actually criminal in my mind. No, it. Is. It was very criminal. But that's the only time Saint Louis was fine. I swear to God. It was like because I left the party was so offended. Somebody that I left. That is offensive.
I was trying to get to the airport, right. Because it was like, I don't know what to do. I need to go home. So I was like, trying to like, thumb a ride in like, yes, little 18 year old Daniel. I was. And then just as a cab, finally, no cell phones, right? Yeah. The cab finally drove by and took me to the airport. Was right when the drugs started kicking in. Oh, and then the next thing, I'm like, over the front seat of the cab talking to the driver about the moon. It was a horrible night.
A horrible night in Saint Louis. It s it was terrible. And the people I was who I was with were all like, in the doctor program. There are all these like, crazy biology chemistry people. When you have spaceships. You were the only one on. You were the only one on it. I was the only one on an artist's college career. Oh, no, no. Oh, my dream. That's rude. Super rude, That's rude. But, you know, at least you have to pay for anything.
I remember Jack was hosting something and a bunch of guys from the Actors gang. We all knew we were on the roof of the standard afterward. I guess maybe it was like some award show. Anyway, Kyle guys asked me if I wanted to try some ecstasy, and I said, Have you guys already done it? And he said, Yeah. And I said, Well, just give me a half, you know? And so he goes, Well, that's not going to do anything. So I took a hold one.
And then of course there were all these execs around and stuff, and I said to Kyle, Are you out of your mind right now? And he goes, Now? And I said, What do you mean it's not hitting you? And he goes, Oh, no, we did it like 3 hours ago. And I said, You asshole, I'm the only one like mine right now. No, that's a good thing. I've got to talk to Doug Herzog. Yes, I know. I haven't done the thing where you pretend to take the shot.
That's my favorite gag, is where you just say you take it and you shoot it behind you. It's like you just get out of it. Oh, that's a good idea. That's a good idea. It is good. We sorry. We got high in Atlanta. Do you remember we were at the laughing skull? Oh, yeah. And we were doing the show. You were doing the weekend there? Yeah, and I was living upstairs. And so I came down and then we smoked pot. Did you come to my apartment or we just smoke pot in the green room?
I think we maybe just smoke pot in the green room. Yeah. But that's where I remember. I feel like I ran into you outside of the club or something, and we. Yeah, and we hung out. That's how we hung out. That's when I see Margaret, like, all. Just in, like, comedy clubs in different places. Yeah, so. But that was a good club, too. Yeah. I really like that laughing. That was awesome. Yeah. Wait a second. Margaret So you were living there? Yeah, I was living in Atlanta for, like, seven years.
Because you were shooting? Because I was. Shooting. Dropped a diva there. Yeah. Yeah. But you live there for a minute. It was like a long time. Yeah. Yeah, We were talking about, uh, last week. It's such a sexy city. Yeah, right. But at one time, Karen Kilgariff and I got kidnaped when we were on the road there, we were in, like, the middle of college gig stuff. Wow. And then we stopped down in Atlanta for the night, and so we thought, Oh, we'll take a cab to little five points.
And so we went and we went shopping, and then we got in a cab to go back and the cab driver was real chaotic and he started talking about Harikrishna and he wouldn't stop talking about car crashes and then he wouldn't stop at our hotel. And he kept going. He kept going. And we were like, we can't we got to get out of this car. Yeah. Pretty soon there was a cop car following us and then another cop car and then another cop car, and then they all start their sirens at the same time.
And finally, like, he drove off and they, like, pulled out guns. Yeah. Then he came out and then, like, we were just like, Should we get out? You know? So we get out. We're like, And they come in, They're arresting him, They throw him to the ground and they and stuff, and they're like, with a guns out and stuff. And we're just kind of like they're like. And then we just ran. It was like, How the fuck do you get home from a thing like that? We've we got another cab we said before over.
Was he hot? No, he was real. I mean, maybe in a Unabomber way, but he was really, like, just chilling. Margaret would say that. Well, because I always. Knew he was Unabomber's cute. I would watch soap operas with my father. That says a lot about your taste. Okay, So. My aunt would always watch as she picked me up from school. We were both, I guess, latchkey kids, but she was the adult. And so she picked me up from school and made me a peanut butter jelly sandwich, and we'd watch soap operas.
So I always want to fall in love with my captor. Right? Like, I want my character to be hunky. She is that happens a lot system that. Soap. Syndrome. Right People are kidnaped. Yeah yeah, yeah. But it's like I wanted to be captured and then romance. Like Luke and Laura. Oh, yeah. I think it was Luke and Laura. Yeah, because he kidnaped her. He locked her up right? Yeah. That was, I think what we were watching. I mean, around the. Middle school when that song came up, think of Laura left.
Like, all the songs about Laura are about death. By the way. They are? Yeah, there's that one that's about death. And then there was my mom said there was an older song called Tell Laura I Love Her. And that was a guy in a car accident. No. Yeah, I just get an Elton John song, which is great. And then I have, Oh, Danny Boy, which is an old song people don't know anymore. But I love that song. And the Elton John song. Yeah, it's a beautiful song. Yeah. Yeah.
The only reason I know the lyrics of it is because people sing it. MARGARET What are the songs about? MARGARET They're not. I don't think there are any. We're going to have to write one. Yeah. Oh, wait. Okay, so Laura has drums. She's teaching herself drums. Oh, really? Well, no. I mean, yeah, definitely. I have drums. But Denise Frazier, who's an amazing drum teacher, was teaching me drums, and I've gotten so bad at it that I haven't called. I stopped taking lessons.
I got to get back on there and then called Denise and take lessons again. Instead of learning. You've devolved your talents gotten worse as a. Yeah, I'm just cleaning the house instead. I'm not doing anything. But that's a cool thing to do. That's a really you play an instrument. I play guitar and piano and. And you sing. Margaret You're in a band. I play most instruments. I mean, if you play either one or the other, then you can figure out everything else.
Yeah. All right, so now the three of us are going to be in a band. Guess. Yeah. I want it just pushed at me. Oh, let's hear your poem. Is that it? Margaret? Last on our last podcast, we said we were going to read one of our poems that we wrote in high school. Oh, good. And, oh, God, do you. Have stuff like that? Do you keep anything? I keep it, but I don't know where it is. I mean, it's all sort of in my house somewhere. Everything, all the detritus of my life is scattered everywhere.
My mom gave me thank you, gave me all of my stuff back. So go ahead. Read your songs from high school. Yeah. Minds from, like, elementary school. Oh, fuck. You. And I'm humiliated by. Oh, well, then mine's going to be worse. Sure yours is long. No. I mean, it's terrible. Well, I already am. I already teased it in the last episode saying, Look out, look out. So. That's right. Everything is about a car accident.
All right, Go on. Okay. But I did tell you the truth, that it was on the printer paper with the little thing, and it still connected. Wow. Oh, my gosh. Right. I know. And it's like little things. So. And I also don't think I wrote these and transcribed them. I think this is me free forming on and I. Enough apologies, enough disclaimers. I'm going to say that mine's from sixth grade now because I'm going to be embarrassed. I'm going to embarrassing myself. I'm only going to read one. Okay.
But you have your choice of the three. They all have a title one is titled Creatures in the Night. The other one is titled The Other World. And then the last one is titled Love in Love. Okay. Yeah. This one's already canceled. FII Love by an elementary school. Daniel Webb. This feeling love can only be shared with those people who have dared to have a relationship. Just a boy and a girl so canceled only two may feel this way and hope this love will last a day. Oh, it's cute, right? Good now,
but very. Good to hear the creatures. One that's very gender conforming. That one. Okay. Creatures in the night. This one's dark. Gloomy clouds swirl together. Make a storm that will last forever. That's the Stevie Nicks song. Tornadoes, hurricanes, rain will fall and to be cut by a monster's claw snake. So shall morning come the sky so clear. Creatures of the night will disappear. That's good. That's good. That's really good. Yeah, but could be it. That could be a Fleetwood Mac song.
Now, it sounds like a Stevie Nicks, right? It's wonderful. That was humiliating. No, it was. Yeah, That was so good. I thought, Well, I'm just going to give you the title of mine. And then. And then let. Us all band out. It's called. Last Ride. Yeah, so I read it. Why? Oh, why do we have to. You know, think about how. How dramatic you are as a ninth grader. Although I probably was older than that. Oh, last ride. Oh, my God. Okay. The morning froze our breath.
Snow flakes like lace on the windows. We listened to the stones and swayed side by side. I was in love. You were in like we laughed about. We laughed about skipping. The world was ours. On that morning, our last of our last ride, the icy road took us and we went careening off. Look out. The trees went whipping by. You couldn't stop you. You tried to hit the guardrail. Okay. Guardrail is a word that should be in every poem, by the way. Yeah, I really float. Yeah, right.
And it rhymes with quite a bit. Yeah. Hangnail. Remember that. Right? In every beginner's guide to poetry writing, tank it, guardrail and wherever you can. Oh, and crashed at the bottom and crashed at the bottom. Our lives were lost like mist in the sunrays. It's. Wow. Nice. No. Yeah, that's embarrassing. The sunrise is very visual. I love it. But it is tragic. Who is the person? I think. Who are you writing? I think some.
There was a guy that I like that was driving and I think I probably got somebody to buy. This is how I got through high school. I would get an older friend to buy cases of Blatz to go to the prom, to give to guys. And also. What is Blatz. Is shitty beer Oh yeah. Because we're all underage or did somebody my cousin who's older. What is this spiral. And so then oh so then I think it was this all the guy that was like just driving me home from something. I don't know what.
Uh huh, What the spiral that you're reading out of in the morning. Oh, I mean, is that like your. That was your. Subject notebook. Huh? That's a read because mine was typed, but mine's tied using computer. But in IBM, it's very IBM. Is super IBM. So were you expressive as a child that you said you were? I was, yeah. So I did a lot of writing. I think I would write like, horror novels and like, just kind of put them. And I remember that there was a true crime thing that I saw.
And then I was sort of writing about that. I think her name was Mary Vincent, the woman who was attacked by the man who chopped off her arms and then threw her in the ditch. She got up and like put mud on her stomps and then like, went and found the road and was able to testify against him in court, which is like, incredible. So I wrote a story about that. Wow. How old You probably like 12 or 13. That's awful to have even seen or known about this. So crazy.
Would you consider this afternoon where we talked about this being obsessed with death? Are you as I am, Are you obsessed with death? Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. Are you? Yeah. Well, I just want to say that having died for a few seconds, there's nothing. I just. I have doubts. And I know that there's nothing that kids the obsession. Yeah, because I think. I think it's innate. Like, if you're a kid, kind of preoccupied. Yeah, Yeah. Idea, right? Yeah, for sure.
I love martyr because she knows all the murder stuff. Yeah. Serial killers. Yeah, I know a lot about that kind of stuff, but it's also. Yeah, I like death rituals. I like the esthetic of, like, mortuary, esthetic, funerary, esthetic, ritual, esthetic. It's all interesting to me. I remember there was a few summers where they had stand up at the Forever cemetery. Oh, yeah, I never did that. You should do that. That would be good. That again? Have you done
Karen's show? My Favorite. Murder. I've done, like, special episodes of hers, but. Yeah. Yeah, That's. What is your favorite murderer? Co-opted. But like, what's your favorite like? Well, like the ultimate, I think is probably Jonestown people temple Because my parents had my grandparents 50th wedding anniversary at the The People's Temple. Wow. So is right after it happened Really? Yeah. In San Francisco.
So we were there like in the weird crime scene, but it was like not the exact crime scene because it had happened in Guyana. But this was their home temple in San Francisco. Wow. So they had it there, which is really weird. Very Branch. Davidian. It's very scary. And there's a lot of like people like sort of experiencing paranormal things during the party, which felt really weird, but like what?
Well, they were just like, you know, Koreans believe that all ancestors are become ghosts, and so you have to please them. And that the ghosts were not pleased that we were having a party. They're all upset. It was like kind of in relationship to that. Or things thrown. Around. No, but there was like a sense of the people there who were very traditional Korean who were like, Oh, we're not doing them a good turn by having this party here. Oh, gee, I. Think I'm too thirsty to see it. Ghosts.
I want to see it too much that they don't show themselves like I want it too hard. It's so. Yeah, but it's yeah, it's like such an interesting thing. I like spirit photography. I think that's always really cool. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. So it's really scary. Yeah. I always thought that, like, because now everybody on their camera, like, every little green blip is like a ghost hunter. I'm like. Yeah, no, no, I like when, like, figures appear, like faces in the dark. To me, that's really spooky.
Yeah. That shit I was always into, like there was a murder of a man. He had married, like, three wives, and they all died. No one asked any questions. And it wasn't until someone was like digging up the cold case and looked at a photo of the crime scene that he saw the wife's face in the pillow case. Oh, wow. Yeah. Suffocated her and then put it back on. But he'd, like, struggled so hard that her face, Masha and no one noticed.
So then they went back and like they did not have them, but they looked. And sure enough, there was like, DNA evidence of her, like. Yes. And so, like her face was literally staring back like it was the thing that saved her. Amazing to me. Amazing. Okay, Margaret, I know we're going to be on the road, but where else can people find out all the exciting. Things people can find me on?
Margaret Cho, dot at Margaret Cho on Twitter, Margaret underscore Cho on Instagram and the Margaret Cho on Tik-tok. Yeah. Your TikTok is fun. I like thank you election there it's a. Lot of Lucia and people can see Lucia almost everywhere. She's everywhere. She's touring. Cool. Thanks for coming. Out. Thank you for talking to you, Margaret. We're going to do this again now. Okay. Poets out. Venue. This is this is great. Yeah. All right. I'm so glad we got all of us get together as a fun.