Hi. Hi. Welcome to what we thought would happen. I'm Laura Kightlinger, and we are so fortunate today because we have the amazing writer, Jim Valery with us. And you may not remember Jim from writing on such shows as Brotherly Love, Twin Twats, Contra Cousins, The The Golden Girls Arrested Development. No, Jim is truly one of the funniest people on the planet. He is. He's brilliant. And he's right. And and the first show you wrote on it was with Poncho, right? I forgot his first name
already brought with it. No. I don't do as a narcissist. I don't do any background work on on introducing people. Because literally the nine cues that you would have for us to get. And but you're basically a new friend. We met a long, long time ago and now we're. Yeah. And it was you and all the cool kids, the old cabaret kids. Sure. And because Laura is a cool kid, right? Like she's. Oh, I really like you. Right. Because she's exclusive. Because she has no friends. That's right. That's right.
Hot girl had no friend. Yeah. Yeah. Untouchable. Because who could be a friend of mine? Really? Well. Well, I know, I know. That's why we had. You know, that's why this whole podcast began. I really needed a friend, and Daniel was stupid enough to go along with it. Yeah. I just don't get used to it. Right. Right, right. Bad joke or way to get about it. And Jim, I was lucky enough to be with. In a writer's writer's room with from January to May.
And he made it completely worthwhile by being so damn funny. But wait, tell me again, because you told me when you first came to L.A., what was the first show you wrote on or when? No. You came out, you. Were as an. Actor. I know. Horrible. No, it wasn't you. I know you were. You were the funny boys. Half of the funny boys. And that's the name of his balls, by the way. Oh, hey, this is fun. No, but you okay, Jim? What was. No. Okay, so you were on, a morning show. You and your comedy partner.
We came out. They put us on on a show called The 30 Minute Pilot. Mm hmm. How long ago this was as the comedy as the comedy duo? Mm hmm. you know, we auditioned for a guy named Brandon Tartikoff. Who knew? We know exactly who that is. Him and you know, we got this pilot, or it was two guys go to nursing school. Was great. You know, and the woman who played dean of nurses and they all lived together was like Jessica Walker. I mean, you go on to work with they. Yeah. It's amazing.
You know, the pilot did well enough. You know, they aired back then. Right? Mm hmm. Right. The pilot on the air. Right. Right. And we went up against the have the thing. Oh, but we did okay. Like we came in 17. Yeah, That's amazing. In what sport? No. How dare you. Oh. Oh, really? Really? Yeah. Is quick. Yeah. It didn't matter, though. So how about you? How long was the show on? What was it? It wasn't called the nurses. Was it called Double Trouble? Double trouble with these twins.
And they put us on and we on Saturday, they're pretty good. But you went you were you were male nurses who took care of twins. No, no, darling, Keep up. What you. Oh, you in smock were your partner? Were twins. Pick up the show. They put us on a preexisting show for double trouble. Oh, I didn't. You didn't tell me that. You said you guys it. Okay? You know, I had a little. Okay. That's all right, Big. I know. I sure do. Girls Ha ha. Ha. Both of us are nothing. Is that how you operate?
Well, I. Mean, that's how we. Know. That's how we came out. You know, he was a good actor. He still is a good actor. James Bond. And. And I'm not. That's not true. I feel I've saw that you show me a clip and I thought you were great. I don't look awful, you know, But. That's all I ever do. Next to Warren Littlefield doing the acting. And he's just. No proof. Of anywhere.
From that to TV. Right. And then, you know, you know, a couple of years go by, you know, we're, you know, getting Bobs here and there. And, uh, but mostly it's like the eighties and it's like you were. How many TV shows with part were you on the part overall? Wow. I didn't know Part C You did? Yeah. Because Golden Girls, they showed what it was like in real life. What a spin off from Golden Girls. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know part. Yeah. Yeah, Uh.
You could talk about it. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Can we just get to Jimmy fucking? He's going on a trip tomorrow. We don't know how long any of us are going to live. You go from being like an actor in a comedy to. Yeah, and then. And then. And then my partner, you know. Did you enter TV writing as a duo? No. we were working and then he was getting a lot of, uh, acting work. So you're going to go on the TV? It's okay. This was fun. Uh, no, he was. No, he's a natural actor.
And John Hughes, you know, So as long as I'm showing you like that, I mean, so he would bring us in on stuff and we did. We have little parts in some kind of wonderful. Um, we play the parking lot. Fantastic. I'm like, smoking a cigaret. It's about three miles long. Yeah. Yeah. It's very, very eighties shot on the last year. Right? Oh, Chicago. Where shooting days with Mary Stuart Patterson. Mm hmm. And then couple months later, he. He brings us into Ferris Bueller see the valet. Yeah.
The car. Yes. And there's a whole other story, huh? I had to get cut, you know, with these two other guys. You know, the car has stopped. Yeah. And We were supposed to play that part of the one two other guys. Mm. We get there and, and John, you says oh that is, uh. Restaurant scene. And but it was only one part of it and I go, take it. Uh, the maitre d, are you serious? That's crazy. Yeah, that was crazy, right? That's the kind of generous guy you are, though. Yeah. Yeah.
Good. No, I couldn't do it. Yeah. You know, we were rioting and. And There were a few dogs, who came in, which I love. It's like having dogs around, and one took a giant shit on the floor, and Jim said, Somebody can clean that up. We wouldn't even clean it up himself. Is that generous? He says just if somebody wants to, they can take the shit out of here, right?
Yeah. My boyfriend, I were playing badminton on a tennis court, and then this lady walked in and it's like, We're sorry we have this as a rental. Um, super fluffy. My dog came in and took a huge shit on the tennis court. Was like, Where you can have it, lady, We'll leave it. Oh, yeah. Karma comes from inside the house. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, wait, what's Laura like in a writer's room? She's the funniest woman I've ever worked.
Exactly Right. Uh, you and. Yeah, and and incapable of hiding her feelings. Mm hmm. I'm not saying what her mind says. Oh, thank. You. You know, there's. a free for all I say. Yeah, but I don't drag you into it. I never said schmuck bait. Oh. We okay. All right. I mean, we work together. Yeah, Yeah, I think. I think. Well, maybe that maybe a movie rewrite or something. Oh, yeah, Maybe. Maybe, yeah. Like a yeah, yeah. Or, like, round punch up tape. Do you like writers? Obviously can be forever.
Yeah. That's great. Yeah. He's so diplomatic and kind. He's like the best to work with. Like, he's funny guys. I mean, you know, and like, It's gotten better, you know? How's that going? I just think jokes are of smarter. I think that references are a little more interesting. I think that we're getting more voices. And, I mean, you know, there was another time when I was working and it was, one woman in the room and and was always, yeah. Ha. Uh, yeah. I'm a guy I work with 100. Hmm.
and then the first show I worked on, which had a lot more women on it was my wife and kids and twins and that and Kim Wayans is great now. And I got the funniest show on TV. Yeah. I scream about, uh, funniest book, for sure. Absolutely. It's hilarious. It'll be on the air. Yeah. And it was first generation and it was the guys, you. Know, first season, first off, out the gate, they have. They're like, Yeah, I know who they are.
Well, I don't know if there's story drop in here, but, you know, do carry them both auditioned for Brandon Tartikoff on the same night. Frasier. What is that. Like? You know, with Richard Pryor sitting in the back. I know. Amazing. Yeah. Wow. Richard Pryor, basically, because he knew that, you know, we did okay. But Richard Pryor was just sitting back in a room, a little split, focused like a fire. And Richard Pryor got inside, you know, basically trying to get them deals.
And, of course, Richard, Jim Carrey and said, hey, let's give him the straight man part. Yeah. Um, well, I didn't understand what he was doing on that show at the time. Was he was the like, he was that weird white guy on the show because. You know, because he was so young. He was. 19. Oh, God. and then, you know, he had some heat and all of his work was done. Nothing kind of clicked. And then he began doing crazy stuff. Mm hmm. I knew I knew actor, you know, his wife? Mm hmm.
And they had a kid, Jane And I remember he was just doing crazy, you know, like, seriously, he was like a Vegas lounge act. Uh. You know, you know, on Golden Palm, it was like. Oh, he. Did impressions on stage. Oh, okay. They used to be such as? I mean, it really was like, even on The Simpsons, you watch, there's like, so many references like that. Like, I don't know, Rich Little was still in business. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. So you worked on Golden Girl three?
Yeah, Yeah. One season five, six, seven. Eight. Okay, so but everybody, I ask about writers rooms and like, how they work because that show in particular, when I watch it, it's just like, jump, jump, jump, jump, jump. Like they. Were there. Yeah, I seem to be the, uh, the like. Mission. Was like, you know, boys, you know? Yeah, they've. They've dated. Uh huh, yeah. Mm. Funny because it holds up.
It's like I'm a Designing Women and I get I can say that word, but it's like that show was more theater and way less on like the material stuff as, like, all across the whole that because there's just fucking funny jokes like, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Unspoken or like, you know. Back then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. These ideas were like, uh, and, and mark talk and it was like if they didn't like a joke they were trying to be, but it could have been actually better.
Oh, uh. Huh. Well just became like, uh, you know. Page 20 300. Like what kind of maintenance on that? Like, would a script go through like Monday through Friday in particular? Just so I would say probably half of it would be rewritten. Uh, you know, you just want better jokes and giving, but that shows like, the women never, ever said this joke doesn't work. MM Yeah. Well they would try. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And finally that's, that's part of it.
Like sometimes, when the joke isn't always that great your actors have to bring their bag of tricks. Mm hmm. And then all of a sudden B's doing your special. Yeah. Yeah. Uh huh, yeah, yeah. So. knew when you wrote a bad joke you could feel it. Always be like, Give me another day. I love, uh. Bea Arthur story. I just watched the Lucille Ball game, which is unwatchable, I will say. But, like, it's all from Bea Arthur
telling the anger, and. Uh. Yeah, I remember I was just old enough when I got the gig that I really don't appreciate, you know? Okay. This is like The Honeymooners. Oh, yeah. Watching the honeymoon. Mm. Yeah, that was a, you know, But go on to think. He was like, reading the newspaper, right? It runs right through me doing so. And so did anyone make an effort to not make her seem like the unattractive one? Because I know she didn't like those kind of jokes.
Yeah, well, I think it that, that like right before we got there because, think they did cross a line. Yeah. Yeah. And then we all, we all kind of another one is a horse to make a field and by the way not you. Know, No. But what is the line. And like as a writer, when an actor is like tweaking a line, is there a line for you or like, a limit? I feel like it should be a suggestion.
Like, you know, like even on Will and Grace, like Leslie, the the Great and late Leslie, he'd come up to me and they're going to be all short jokes for me today, and I know I'm going to try and change them. I'm trying to change them. Yeah, actors want something that, Isn't that, isn't that just physically or. Yeah. To do and you can do anything if you're stuck in the corner. Okay. But you know can just make it like that's that first joke, you know, don't, don't
laugh all the time. Yeah. And don't go towards the end. Never know what's going to be, 30 years later, what is getting around. Yeah. Yeah. Well. And Jim and I, we're, we're both like, punch up. So, like, Jim's done a ton more than I have. Like he's written scripts and all, but run shop. Yeah. Well, okay, fine. But I've got a one day a week. I've got to be there. Why do I have to fucking be here this whole day?
doing punch of a stuff that's already written it depends on how cool like the showrunners are and the other writers because it's like, will they change that? Will they allow something just even for the audience? So the audience, you know, it doesn't get bored hearing the same thing over and over again. Always like the second, you know, it is nice to be back in front of a live audience. Yeah. That is different. And I did like, that's all there was. My name, The Golden Girls.
I did like, you know, maybe ten straight years of nothing, but more like. Yeah, yeah. Hundreds of them back to back of course. You know, I guess I go for the like structure of I losing how they did it especially because they just did one take and they did it in sequence typically they didn't have a lot of that but like it's Golden girls of the Air where they would do like tapings or hours long. Like how long does it you?
00 show and we would go straight through usually get whenever you go in, you know, like in special effects, I'm like. How? the first one, we would go right to fighting by an hour and then we'd have dinner with the entire staff and the women were like sitting in the little like dawn robes and they would get notes and don't even network. Oh, wow. But in front of everybody. Wow. And because, you know, you want to get someone to know because There's a. Chain. Across early or she's got to come.
Yeah. So what was that in rehearsal or the first show of the night on Friday. Oh, okay.
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00 for dinner and then I might have the hours on where it might have been like 4 to 5. Mm hmm. Mm. So that was just the that wasn't in front of the audience. You know, there was still stuff that you could use out of it. Oh, yeah. Oh, it. Was the first taping was. Then you ship them out. Uh oh, wow. Oh, I didn't realize that you guys were due to show to full audience shows a night or day. You know? So you're bringing him in the night audience and then maybe at least two takes. Usually three.
Mm hmm. You know, and, you know, it started seven. And depending on like, if you had like a big make up change. Mm. You may be able to, like, look in there. Yeah. Like eight. Or ten. Uh, let's have a. Drink. Yeah. She definitely had to be, but. Okay. Okay. You know, pro and Bea Arthur. Yeah, don't know, she could do that kind of with equal clams. You know, you just do, like the same kind of joke. Yeah, they have clams like a really bad joke.
And this year was everyone was doing, you know, from Wayne's World and not, oh, it is already British way through. But, you know, we picked it up. Yeah. And I go, it's funny because an old lady saying. Uh. And also the back of my head, those other shows are going to be on in 20 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, we had some the lady Betty, something like, oh, Roseanne, I think. Yeah. Of the smartest person I've ever met.
Mm. So she does on the first show and she doesn't like and you're the smartest person I ever know Rose. Not Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Oh, that's great. Right? Uh, the. Powers that be small. Not really. Yeah. And be. Yeah, Yeah. Be, you know, hardly ever done acting. Mm. So Mark Sorkin was running the show, was like, Oh, okay. Be page 23. Mm hmm. Yeah. Not joke. Yes. And it's very funny. So funny. So funny. If you go to West.
So before the show or past years. CB He'd be a, as I say, a I love to have a different logic. She goes, Yeah, well, so did I. Did Mark Sock and cut my balls off. Uh. How great have you met her? But she she's. Great, you know, they're all great. And think and even she was so amazing on board. I loved watching Maude, too. You know why they're so fucking brave. Mm. That's the difference. It's like people who get, like, those shows and Susan Harris, especially. Yeah. she was the more abortion show.
Um, you know, it was more progressive now. I mean, more progressive then than it is now. Absolutely Right. Absolutely. It was just like, you know, why she chose not to have a baby. She didn't want it. Yeah. Yeah, I was. It wasn't like my health reasons. Yeah, I've done it. It's not over, kid. Yeah, that's great. You never met Norman Lear? Yeah. Yeah. It's wild, right? Yeah. Good kisser. Yeah. Had his music great again. What doesn't have to be happy. About And procedural.
Here. He's got a cannon of work. You know, anyone would die for. Mm. So he changed the course of comedy and he's like 112 years old, and he looks like, you know, he's nine. Yeah. Okay. So did you ever write on either with the stuff. With. The nut. Or. Oh yeah, I just go to Palace. Yeah. Okay. Question So do you have like a hurricane episode? And it's one of those blocks or the every show where the hurricane are coming? Yeah. Uh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You get to write on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Boy,
is that the name of that. He doesn't. I don't think Jim thinks of it as that. He got to, it's that he had to. Go. That was going to order from, you know, the networks. Yeah. you know if he, if it were Thomas because they were all what Thomas shows What she was in the nineties. What were you saying to me is a Damon Wayans. I do the John Larroquette show. You did? Yeah, I did that a lot with Mitch Hurwitz mentioned I met materialism. I met on Golden Girls even before the show called The Heartland.
Heartland. With Brian Keith. Funny guy. Wow. Jeez. So that was definitely. Was that a drama or a dramedy? Yeah. No, but I mean, but it was supposed to be a comedy. To be a comedy. But, you know, it basically I they got just kind of like rolling his face and it took my acting. Uh. Well. Yeah. But I see Smoke is a smoker, right? And his voice is like, So I think his voice was so gravelly by that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, my friend, you do that when you smoke on set.
I don't think we, I it was probably not only because it was like. In the movie or something like. Yeah, but everybody smoke outside of the set. Yeah. I mean, you know. I, I want to be like at the table read smoking. That's what I. some Brian Keith when he's reading, does he ever go and actually laugh at something? Or was it just like, No, he was. He was. very intimidating, Um, because it was my first job.
But he came into the table read and there was a guy named Paul with what Thomas And these guys came in soap and go. Oh, I love soap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Susan Harrison. Oh great. I heard Paul Antonio in every episode. Oh, okay. Yeah. the only show that was comparable to Soap was the show. I don't know if you ever saw Mary Hartman. Mary he has. Created by would be my writing. Partner on Golden Girls. Oh, okay. Together. Yeah. That was like the first book I ever read was written by Gail parents.
Oh, great. Awesome. But she was living in his dad. Living in New York. Oh, yeah, I know that book. I know probably because of you, but. So. what was a table read like with Brian Keith and your partner in the. Comes in on the first day like Keith like puts like a 32 caliber gun on the table. Right? And the barrel is pointing towards Paul and Paul takes his pencil and like the words. Brian Yeah. Oh, I mean, we just knew it was like, okay, this is Brian. Keith's daughter was on the show.
What kind of gun did she get? And I don't have anything. Sorry. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. So then. It's. So they he takes the pencil and pushes the gun back to. He goes, you know, I can only see one. Oh it was almost just like they were like little wire plays. It wasn't much different than community theater. Right. Well, like turning the pages of the script with the gun. Yeah. Yeah. And then he shot it. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Right, right, Yeah. No. Wow.
It was the first strike just that last one, like, ten years ago. No. Well. 27. One was like 80. Eight oh. Eight. Geez. Studios, same thing. Yeah, it's always the same thing. Yeah. We want more money. Yeah, You. No, it's not that complicated. What was it like to move from New York to L.A.? Like was actually hard back. then. I mean, we were in town where a couple of clubs that we played like Rising Star and, uh, Cellar and it was great.
and then, you know, you get a gig now, but, uh, NBC blew us out and then they gave us back then, like, excuse me, like a the money. Wow. You had a deal. Yeah, so. But. But you grew up in New Jersey. So did you used to go in and perform, like, take a train into New York to perform or. No. accidentally got into NYU, and I was just, you know, an I track being an actor. Um, and then I and then all of a sudden I find myself. I'm a dad. Mm. Love to be a dad.
And, you know, I said, okay, well, this is get serious. And night, you know, my wife was directing shows and teaching colleges and things like that during the day, Myra would go out and do well. At night. I would do stand up because it was a sleep and yeah, but I was like a stay at home dad for the first couple of years. Do you think A young. Dad. I told him out of it, but. It had been gimmicky, like funnier that did it focus you, right? Yeah. Yeah. Because it more like I was. I was, had a good.
Yeah. Have to make money, right? And, you know, you just don't get that, you know, year where you're sitting around smoking gun what's to become. No. Huh. I wasn't a particularly good when you said. When you have a year of that, I was like, it's been decades. Ha ha ha. Oh, it's sitting around and smoking. Where were you? A waiter? Uh, 679. Uh. This guy who he his family used to run the one in Hart Arts. Hmm. Which was the automat. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yes, he had 700. Hart, Uh.
And he sold them the Burger King. Shit. They just closed the last automat. Yeah. Mm. Couple of months ago. Yeah, but there's a warehouse. Bring them back. Oh, those are so cool looking. Things in the world. And you don't have to deal with people. Uh, you know, there's a warehouse, some dude bar, although he has a bunch of the old. Yeah, Yeah, all the camera and stuff. You know.
When I was a kid, I had a big, ornate things that you can draw, but there's a nice little documentary called the The Ornament. Mm. Well, you know. It was like a you're to have cheap food and you know. Yeah. The people were talking about people really romanticize the, like, social hangover. Yeah, yeah. I mean you can do, you can do that at 7-Eleven also in the middle of the night. Kind of. Yeah. Just go in it. You can't just take something. Off the furniture.
All the Starbucks in. My neighborhood. One of I think one of the one of the after the last strike in 2007, I lost my house and everything. you know, I was really down and looked like hell. I went to a 7-Eleven and I had scraped up enough money because I thought to myself, I'm not going to let my dog, wake up without breakfast because I'm a loser. So I went to 7-Eleven and bought a can of, I think it's Alpo. Yeah, Alpo and, and I remember it was raining. Everything looked like shit.
I was really down. I bought a can of Alpo and the guy behind the counter put a spoon on top of it. Thank you. So you can scoop it. Oh, and. Now I was like, I can wait till I get home. Yeah, we can give you a lighter for. No, a really cruel country. I know we're not very good to our residents at all. I've always said the motto should be America. You're on your. Own. Yeah. Yeah. got me to do stuff I normally would have done.
I would have jumped on stage and then, like, stand up and act and just, you know, pure desperation. And you and Jonathan did a lot like you got in early to like Catch a Rising Star and all those places really, really funny. I know. But also, like you were able to like you're saying that they got that. Yeah. He gives Roseanne credit for giving him his big break, huh? Yeah, that's cool.
Yeah. No, no, but I'm just going to say like you and Jonathan were able to vet the new people coming in, like you were able to say, Well, I think this guy's good. And that's usually what just the club manager owner does is like, decide who gets be their regular like. Well, yeah, the comics really kind of ran the, you know, like, like the comic strip Seinfeld passed us. Cheese. Bill Maher one day, then the next day he passed us. Oh, that's amazing. it's hard to explain.
It really wasn't a profession back then. Mm hmm. Rare thing, you know, a comic, you know, like Jack Lemmon and Alan King. Yeah. Yeah. Robert Klein was the first. Oh, he's, you know, he's like, Oh. Uh, yeah. He changed the game for me. Yeah. And I and I never see him or. Really? Yeah. Tell me everything. The sound was terrible. Oh, yeah? What you say? Well, everything was terrible.
I mean, right now, if you were to compare, like, what a Broadway show was like, some of the genius talent on the stage, But the orchestra, the book, the sound system. And they, you know, they didn't quite have mikes figured out yet. So there was always feedback on. Uh. You know, you couldn't understand a word that anybody said overcrowding would come. And it just it would just come out of this thing. You know, some of the state theater was like, Oh, no, I can understand what you're saying.
Cheers. And everybody was smoking and it was like, You're in a cloud. But then I saw him in Asbury Park, and I know how many times. Yeah, Yeah. In your time of day. Wow. Okay. Because I'm a balloon guy. Sometimes they. They give me a balloon giving out. Um. So at the Comedy Museum or whatever in Jamestown, they have his, like, you know, like his, whatever, all of his, like bad were like, not just the seven. Oh oh.
Cool. Yeah. Well. this is a sweet story and I don't mean to be anything improper, but. No, I wanted to. But my friend Richard Belzer. Mm hmm. because, uh, the Comedy Award was presented and, George Carlin was the honoree. He was getting. Him. Mm. And I found him like, and it was, I was in the green room, and I found him in a little room where the woman who puts the I stenographer. Oh, I'm in the courtroom. Okay. Hey, fuck you. I'm just trying to help you get a sentence together. I. I think.
Okay, go ahead. Yeah, Okay. All right, Go on. So he's. He's. He's made some changes on his, uh, But he's reading through it, right? And she's trying to keep up. Oh, God. Temperature changes as he goes in. He's doing symptoms up a little thing. And it was just me standing outside the. Door, uh. he began to do in case, just feel. mean, one thing I've learned in this business is, uh, I would you need to have a way out, and it can't be an authentic.
And of course, with him, it didn't have to be an authentic I'm a bit left. Mm hmm. And I was just checking into law. Uh. And I know. I just knew that mine was like, I could have been 5000 people. Uh huh. Oh. So here. Do you laugh when you laugh? And so, you know. Oh. You know, I think he, he held for it was. Oh, it's so nice. It's like a private concert. Oh, I love that. listened in on and, um. Yeah. That's so fucking great. And then once I met him, I was.
I was, getting off a bus, uh, in New Jersey, and he was staying at a Holiday Inn. The bus dropped me off and was waiting for someone to pick me up, and he goes, Oh, I just kind of see what the state is in. Ha! Fantastic. But I did. Oh, great. Like in one of those skinny, horrible trains. He goes, Yeah, they're like, fucking, you know, they're all over me. I can't travel. Anyone can come backstage. Also, I didn't, you know, he's got. High, uh. That's so great. Yeah. He's
not an autograph guy. He's right. Now, what was so great about him was he just kept going. I was like, when I see I hate it when people, like, hold for laughs. Mm hmm. Like, do you know, wink to the audience? Or. I hate it they crack themselves up. Oh, God. We were just talking about that. Some of my favorite comics. I was surprised like that. They laugh after I didn't even realize that because I haven't seen him in a while, that they laugh after their jokes. And I was like, Oh my back.
Yeah. No, not at all. For a laugh. Yeah. Wow. What I've got more. Mm hmm. Which makes it rewatchable. Yeah. You know. What was his special? He called. Everyone was going to die and he was going to put it on like he got. He got very negative at the. Hmm. It is weird how, like, you know, we. I know his daughter Kelly. Really? And mother, Brenda Powell, and I never met her. Yeah, but she kind of, you know, changed my course, my life.
You know, she saw Catch a Rising Star and she puts on the HBO young comedian. Oh, amazing. Never met her. Didn't even know back then. It was like HBO is here. Yeah, I know. I still feel that way about HBO. Yeah, it's like the Phyllis Diller HBO special, Someone They still are just calling home Box office like nobody. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. yeah, you should watch that. It's so. Good. Yeah. HBO is an amazing story of, like, because cable had been around for years. Mm hmm.
You know, you lived if you lived in the valley, just, you know, that's how you got cable and. Yeah, the local telephone guy would, you know, run a big giant wire up to the top of them at once. My mom slept with that guy to get cable. To get laid. Yeah. Oh, yeah, Right, right, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Good joke. Yeah, there's a there. No, it isn't. And so that's going to stay in. Yeah, but it used to be like, dirty, like there was porn on there and stuff. Scramble it. Oh, that was okay.
You have to change the channel for the back of what? To get it back before it would scramble. It would just be. Clear for like 5 seconds and then it. Would scream, oh, if you're, if you're getting it illegally. Yeah. Would you. Can fuck the. Cable guy. Oh okay. Okay. Now let me tell you something. I wanted to ask you something. Robin Bird, Do you remember. Guru? Yeah, I watched the show. Yeah, but I remember when I moved to New York.
My boyfriend at the time was telling me about her, but he was saying that Robin Bird was like, kind of the original. video vixen that was on in the middle of the night? Yeah, but I used to watch that, Kramer's apartment. Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? Yeah, We in the building I lived in for actors and writers and like that. I told you earlier, you know, Samuel Jackson worked security, which is crazy. Yeah, it was crazy. And it was just like. Like that. Yeah. It's like a giant.
It was like a big Juilliard door. Wow. And then, like, you know, Tennessee Williams lived there, but so. But we had a babysitting. Come on. Okay. And the babies, you can go up and that like 300 kids, my daughter and you know, we have a kitchen. So we started school there and before we wasn't having a baby co-op, you know, like my kid, you watch yours, ours. Right. Right. And Kramer. Michael Richards of the person Kramer. Person that I was based on had a daughter, Melanie.
And it was very unusual to have, like, a single dad taking care of his kid. Hmm. I just turned 80 I because. Like, happy birthday. And across the hall from the Larry David. Thing. And, you know, And I would follow Larry David around to the end, probably. Um, I did a show with him, like, you know, having happened to him, he was, like, so afraid. He would want to pull out of it. Oh, that sounds like him. Yeah. Oh, is it going to find a legacy? My art. They're going to get
me out of the building. Yeah, he was like a standup, but he. Yeah, Yeah. Oh, yeah. But I remember. It when. It worked. Yeah. Yeah. But I remember seeing him, like, on a weekend night, which was always, always a bridge and tunnel crowd at the Improv in New York. And I was with Elissa, Debra and Henry at Minto and Nancy Shane and Marty Rackham and John Manville. And we all went to the room because Larry was about to go on.
And we just said to ourselves, How long is it going to be before he walks the room? And so he opens with this like, imagine like all these kind of drunk, like just people from New Jersey, whatever, expecting like really tacky shit, whatever. And he goes. May I use the too form of you. With you people. The two form of you? Yeah, that's how he starts. Right? Okay. What I'm doing. You know. What I'm. And it's just like we were crying just because everything was so obscure. It was like.
It's like he. Knew. He wasn't going to go over. We would. We would see a rising star. And whenever anybody get the right, you go out, you know, smoke a little guy. Mm hmm. Yeah. Right back in 20 minutes later, when I was on, it was like, stay close. Hahaha. Shit. You know, I want to resign and then like, nothing. And it's just like, just trust the girls. Girls. This one. Aha. Richard, go to New York, right? Yeah. Did you come up with him. No. Come on.
But you know, Richard and I met, would say like the late eighties. was doing the act and the Golden Girls, and. we just met night and began talking and hanging out. You know, we became very, very good friends. My mom had two very random comedic influences out of nowhere, Right. And the rest of her life was never interested. But one day she let me stay. With your mom very hard. Ha ha ha. It was like a kid sampling because there was a Gallagher special. She was like, You have. I want you to know.
How. I have comedy in my life right? So she that was my. And then the other cue ever was she gave me Richard Belzer book where they like JFK. Yeah. I was like, I think you'd love this. It's like, I got. That was my introduction. Wow. Yeah. Oh. I, I know they're doing a documentary about him, you know, he went through a lot. He did not have a great childhood. Mm hmm. but he's got a great wife and. And Jessica and, uh. And he's been living in Europe for how many years? He's in.
He lives in this, you know, he lived and lived on the edge. She lived on the edge of it is just beautiful. know. It's like if you're never walking through, uh, during the a lot of the years and we just, just are walking, you know, and. That's what. I miss about New York so much. Walking and. Talking. Yeah. he does. Come on, let's go. There's a bad life, right? Yeah. And so we walk and ride. We watch the game. And, uh. And as we're leaving, there's always.
And it's like you have to die a like a security guard, you know, you want to get there, But as we're walking out, all these black and white cops running in the door, I guess security has got it and they slow down. Ha ha ha. And I said, you know, it's not a. Real ha ha ha ha ha ha. Uh, you know, real, uh oh, it's great. Will you please tell We can cut it if you want, but you're working on a show and just talk about the two Richards. Yeah, Yeah. But it's got nothing. To do.
Well, that doesn't matter. I think it's just a funny story. I hear the story goes to this guy. He wants to be a director, and he's shadowing Jimmy Burrows on Frasier. This is the time where, let's just say Kelsey Grammer is, you know, in the news. Yeah, in. A Coke funnel. That's right. He's got Columbia, right? So this guy's name is Richard Day and Jimmy Burrows around. And this is this is that finally Jimmy Morales? You know, find out when you guys are mature and do you get on with your day?
Ha. Let's just say there was a lot of coke at the Paramount. The scramble to get rid of everything. But he was DEA. Because the other Richard was DUI. Right. So he always has to say DEA, which is so crazy. That the U.S.. No, no. But that's I love that. I worked at a hamburger joint where. They were. I know it was. And I love. That people think it is. But then it's really changed. Then it must have changed. And it was. Healthy also. I know. Okay. I'm going to have to try.
Okay. See, I know you don't like me, so you know, I like your ears up, but best pastrami sandwich. After burger gone. Yeah. Yeah. You're not. I want to. Get it on. You know what? I love it. Yeah, I. Get it on the. Strong. Get it on the ribs of a pig. Get in on something that's really, really barbaric. Get it? Yeah. See if you can get it. See if you can get a sheep's eyes or blood somehow in there. Like something that doesn't need to be slaughtered and killed.
I've taken a page from the book, and I really, like, really cut down on me getting. Okay. Thank you. Did you read her book or just take a page out? I, I. Love you too. I feel like so honestly, like lucky to know both of you guys because you're funny. Funny sobs. No, I don't care. No, I just like a I. You know, every once in a while I feel like maybe a lot of things didn't go my way. My brain doesn't work. I had a brain aneurysm, but every once in a while ago. Wait a second.
Look at all the cool, like nice people. I'm around and really, truly funny people and smart. A great article in the L.A. Times today about, you know what? If it should be a comic, Jay Kroger, I think we've had him at that. Show, so I know Jay can. Be out and he's. Weird. Ha ha ha ha. And it really is just like the people who do it It's such a labor of love for them. There's so many unique voices and there's so much talent out there and oh, It was Howard Kramer, actually he does it a little st.
He did. He did a straight no, he did a straight stand up thing right across from SC2. Right. Yeah. Yeah. nobody's really making any money doing this. Yeah. You know, that's where the good stuff is. Money involved, I promise you. There's notes coming. they keep us saying, you know, you know, the rich are fleeing Los Angeles and all. I think it's like, uh. Yeah, it's like, don't tell me we're going to have to learn to get by without Chachi. With someone like Splash. Jesus.
How can we get how can we keep going, though? I got shot for your job. What? Absolutely true. Movie development. Oh, shit. You're right. Do you, like, made him seem cool again? Losing. Uh, Henry Winkler. But he had a really good reason he had to do another show. Uh huh. Sure. Or did he? Kids getting paid. Uh, you know, we need a family lawyer. I said Yeah. Um, and I knew. And I knew everybody. Yeah. Yeah. You know, he's just an arrogant guy. Yeah. And I met him in a bar, and I said, Hey, I.
How I'm. We're going to get you arrested. He goes, Yeah. Right, right. Because everybody want to be on that show. Yeah. I mean, but that's those are the celebrities that are leaving L.A. It's like Dean Cain. Yeah. You know, you know, tech is leaving, you know, in a weird way, Like everyone was leaving San Francisco and other are coming back because it's like, hey, I know. I know. But, you know, but I think so lame when people say leaving L.A. because of the homeless. Oh, really?
It's so are they are they blocking your Tesla in your driveway? Like they're not people? Give him a house that if you wanted to get out of. Your way, Yeah. It's going to happen because all the offices downtown are just you. going to be turned into, you know. Like living. Yeah, yeah, yeah So this sorry, There's a huge, glaring oversight here is that you worked on Arrested Development, but did you work with Liza? Oh, yeah. And she was great. Yeah. She she she was really great.
She smoked? Yes. Yeah, she did smoke. Yeah. Yeah. I seen the behind the scenes of her appearing on Oprah. And she still smokes. In the. Studio. Oh, yeah. Tell me everything. I to tell you. She, you know, she, she was very nice. She was really she was, you know, I she hates gay men. I don't know what it is. She they can't get within, what, 20 yards of her. There's like a thing. I don't know. Yeah. I saw her. I met her twice before.
Once was in 1972. Jeez, I. I went to go see at the Ziegfeld Theater with my class. War and Peace. Whoa. No. No, no. the back, like all high school kids. We went to the stage deli. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Jewish comics. Mm. Ha ha. So. So we were you know, you know, there in the corner, it's 1972, Liza minnelli, Mrs. Cabaret. Oh, yeah. Right. Height of her powers. And, one of the waiters come by a little kind of fashion. We're like, Yeah. Hey, I see you picked a good day to come to the stage.
Uh oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he goes, Yeah. I mean, it's not every day that Robert De Niro comes. Ah. Huh, Uh uh huh, Yeah. Nobody cares. Yeah. Uh uh. I did that. It was because it was at a table where Dwight Yoakam was sitting like, Oh my God. And I was, I was a hammered at the time. So I was like, Why Go, My mom just loves your music. So first of all, I didn't say I was a fan. Uh, I made him sign like,
a dinner napkin. And then, like, on my way out, I looked over and his dinner guest was Gina Gershon. I was like, Oh, she's clearly the more famous person. But I like God. I like him. Dwight, too. Is that really how we judge thing? Is that the business is very specific. I, uh. I went for Dwight. Because war is way more famous than me. No way. I you know, everybody. In town hates. You. Oh. Thank God. Thank God. That's how we were been. Like, how do you.
What do you. How, how do you know you've made it? What is your signifying? Like when you made it or whatever? Well. amazing thing about Laura's, she's kept her voice. Hmm. Because. Because I've never made any money. Yeah. And then once you're rich, you lose everything. You. You. You lose your edge. You. You lose your point of view because you're not living like everybody else. When you're a multimillionaire. You forget. The you you stop doing your own laundry. Yeah. Okay.
Oh, really? You don't. You you all. I know guys who haven't done their laundry since, you know, Clinton. Oh, they can't afford it. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, for a year of my life, when I first got out, your cup of coffee. Oh, my. God. I was going to ask you, I. When were. You. I guess it was an Emmy award show that he hosted, but you guys were hanging out in the. This is the first year that Fox when Fox was still like a fledgling network. Mm hmm.
They got the rights of the Emmys when that what used to mean something? Oh. It was like, oh, my God, Fox is going to the Emmys in a live event. So you have to, you know, and back then, it's like 92, I think, really, really policed everything. Yeah. But especially on awards. Show because it was live television, it was like and. Also it was being gone out to like Saturday Night Live.
You might be able to do something that was on Saturdays, but this on primetime in America was like, who's going to win it. You know? Yeah. It was still like, Weight. Jim Okay. And was that the same show where you did? It was like the Father's Day piece. No, no. Okay, good. I'm sorry. So Gilbert comes out and I'm sitting in the very last row, you know, because, I mean, the Golden Girls last year. Mm hmm. And you got them together.
You came there together on a tandem bike because he won't spend $2 on anything. Right? I think we all know that he was okay and in terms of he never paid. I Oh, yeah. Oh, God. And and so, yeah, this is like, like a few years after, you know, you know, you was doing a show called Thicke of the Night. Yeah. Uh huh. Yeah. I got to know stories. and he didn't drive or anything, and he lived with me and I would buy him dinner and, you know, he had two pairs of underwear.
I would like, soap, one in my sink and a cheese. Oh, that's great. that's how he was brought up. He was brought up poor or poor in the projects, the east, you know, and he ended up having two dutiful kids. Um, married a wonderful woman. Uh, and, you know, I miss him every day. Yeah, but anyway, so. But like, you know, he's a top of the world, you know, I think. I think it might be after. Sure. And he comes out and but Pee-Wee Herman had been arrested for masturbating in a theater and.
you know just like finding out that Captain Kangaroo was first to. Go, Oh. Well, wait, was he? Well, they call him in the river. Oh, fantastic. He's I don't know if I can spot them, but it's so good because. And he's killing, right? And then he starts and he goes. Pee-Wee Herman was a master for masturbating. And this is live. And you can see the fox. You can't even see. Yeah, yeah. Because masturbation is against the law. I should get. Life. Oh, it was so amazing. Goes on and on and on and on.
And just as a masturbation run live. And. the really nice thing was about that was he said, I feel so much safer now that Pee-Wee Herman is. Yeah. You know, that was so fucking brilliant. Our listeners should look that up because it's so fucking great. Master. You know, he just. He just always hit the right note hidden behind this little character of, like, closing his eyes. And saying how you know, and just saying how unfair that crazy that was. have the best laugh.
Using the most generous laugh or oh, or he's not like, you know, a lot of guys, you know. Are you? You know you are out there. Yeah. Yeah. It was just a good guy. Yeah. you know, I really like. Yeah, it was so sweet. It was. I remember meeting him just this may have been Carolines and everybody was in the green room and he was just, just really nice and like having a good time. At. The end of that story as we both were down after that for the Emmys, everybody got the governors and governors.
Ball Hmm. It's just the food downstairs. And I had it was like the face in the crowd, which you haven't seen. You're not in Ha ha. But without spoiling his career, you know, crashing at the end it's know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh she. Did not know that thing was so fucking. Controversial. Oh yeah. They showed it Why on the East Coast. But it was on tape delay for the West Coast. Well they cut it completely. They just cut him out. It was not on. He just. He just went into like the last
he was giving away. Like best writer. Wow. Sure. Yeah. And, I was probably drunk and. And probably set my career back five years. That was like walking around with, like, yeah, he might as well be like, walking around with Hitler. Yeah. I was like, Oh, he said, his career is. Over. Absolutely furious. Career was over like five times.
I was going, Oh, people realize the devastation of like losing the Aflac gig because it's like, first of all, people don't take that seriously because he's playing like a duck from like when you're a comic mostly and you get an endorsement. Okay, that's huge. Yeah, that is money. Yeah. That was a job. That was, you know, that was that was a real thing. And, you know, I think you a little bummed out for sure. Mm. You wouldn't be, you know, amazing. You also didn't. Yeah. Did he have to apologize.
Did he apologize? I can't remember. Okay. I think he, I think he did. But, you know, This is who he is. Yeah. No one would have put this together You know, no one's going to say, well, I'm not going to buy that and charge. Did you tour as a comedian? Did you do clubs? Yeah. Like, everywhere? Yeah, Like, yeah, on a train. On a fucking date. So do you. Oh! Ha ha ha ha ha. like, how would you shop yourself outside clubs then? And, like, you know, I can't. A manager.
Yeah, but it was like it was such a small world. It's like if you were part of the problem at the Comedy Store, I mean, how can you catch a rising star or the comic strip, you know, they would come in and they, they looked at us and I go, these guys to go. And Lily Tomlin was on the switchboard. Hey, these guys are the new. I check them out. Thought like, was was Carson something you did that. We did that. You got the times What? Yeah, we did Person twice. And then we did it once. Would Jay.
Jay Leno. Jay Leno. Well. Did you get it? Did you get to, um. Did Carson call you over to the chair? Which chairs for the two of you? Oh, everybody you know, just like James. Oh, I. Had no idea. Talking to to be like. Oh, wow. Without that, didn't stick together. And you know? So. You know, we describe the Carson thing. So we knew in your party. Yeah. Yeah. Was when NBC, like, you know, gave us a deal and, uh. Know wanted to promote you. And I was nerve. Wracking for sure,
because. You know, once again, it's like. So a high stakes, I guess, that seemingly high stakes. But like, when looking at your partner, are you like, do you have this because I have this or what? Are you more nervous about you or your partner? He was he was he was like a rock. Uh, you know, but here's what I do remember about it. It's the same stupid thing, remember? But, Carson, he never tied me or they didn't have, like, you know, did these big circular shots. Uh, it was all proscenium.
The camera was facing this way. And then maybe if he played Stump the band, they would turn the cameras around. But you didn't see how small that studio was. Oh, I kept that. Illusion. Uh. For years. You're just watching this one spot where all comics. Go, huh? And. And deliver? Yeah, it's. The same spot, you know, Everybody's been in it. There's the big fucking, you know, t right there, you know. And I was like, Do you know that gizmo they said, Open to the curb? Ha ha ha. Is that what is that?
And that was always funny. And I get there and it's like. It's like, God. Oh, you know. Good luck, kid. Yeah. Uh, yeah. Shit. It was terrifying. And, you know, and. And we did well enough but we just had 10 minutes. Wow. That's great. Yeah. It like. Did you go on first, or do you have to wait for the other? Did you wait for the other comics? Went in at midnight. Oh, wow. Okay. Shit. Okay. Oh, and, Stay tuned. We've got that. But yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then first guest and then the comics.
Oh, okay. what? Once we got that, opening slot. Oh. That's what we got. Mm hmm. For the band for band walk from the. Well, it was The Tonight Show. Well, it was. It was it we thought would be funny to do this thing about the Elvis Presley. A dead Elvis impersonator. Mm hmm. So I would was so happy about this impersonator, but, you know, cast away. But, you know, contract the contract. Ha ha ha. That's great. And much to make out.
And, uh, he dresses Elvis, and he's had, like, sticks from his arms and legs, and I would use as a puppet. That's great. Apparently, Blue Suede Shoes. And, you know, we did it, and then we auditioned for for Jim Macaulay. Uh huh. And he said, no, absolutely no more of it instead. And I'm like, Well, you know how often you put those two words together? Ha ha ha. So, uh, and then and Bob Morton, I think, was that on Letterman and then Leno was in the audience. I Hahaha. Oh yeah, absolutely.
And what Jay didn't know was the producer of the show hated making fun of Elvis. Because it was just sacred. Because he directed Elvis in his first. Movie. Oh. Oh, my gosh. I remember that. And we didn't know that. So my theory has always been that Booker Jim who had once said that Jay Leno shouldn't be on television because his face scared people. Uh huh. And he was right. Yeah. Yeah. I always get no, yeah, yeah. The moon is too low.
But, uh, you know, I think he was thrown under the bus because, you know, we do this shtick. It does pretty. Well. And I finally make it over to the panel, right? Because I have worked out, you. Know, uh. I always work for Ice Capades. Now it's good because it keeps involved. Yeah. Yeah, right. And wouldn't have it on on the panel. If I make it to the panel and I look over in this very two Corvette, I in deep red. Given the nicest guy in show business, never say good and I'm.
Giving you the the cut your throat signal. Jay Jay Jay goes to commercial and he wants me to play because fuck off what we did and what did that feel like? We had no idea what happened. And then and then like a week later they said, you've been banned from the show. And they said, Whoa, whoa, you know. Horrible was in there for the rehearsal and but, you know, he's never there for the rehearsal. Yeah, you're funny, boys. They're going to do their thing third time on the show. Because.
They said she was banned from The Tonight Show and also the Jay Leno's Tonight Show as well. Yeah, And but because it would be the same people, just the different. Hosts in charge. Yeah, she was she was the permanent guest host. Right. And then own and then we have Fox came out after her and she you know, she took the deal without asking Johnny's blessing first. And Johnny Carson said, no, maybe not because, you know, she changed the game. Yeah. She she took comedy into a new, angry
level. And. Meanness. Uh. Yeah. You know, once in a while, they would do a fat joke about, you know, Kate Smith. Mm hmm. Yeah. But, you know, and encouraging. Get a little mean. But she was, Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hi. Larry. I'm Rosemary. In a lot of those jokes. Oh, really? Oh, I remember him from New York. Yeah, The dresses come in three sizes. No, large, extra large, you know. My God, it's high. I see. Uh, in a microwave. It says her.
Every, you know, to a point where, you know, it change comedy. Mm hmm. Yeah. You know, it just. It just it and went and people ate it up. Yeah, but you know what's so great? But I mean, it's disgusting to me is that having to get a man's blessing for it to make a move for yourself. You should have been glad. Yeah. Right. Like he had. You know. If he discovered her, he should be like, go ahead. I'm glad. Yeah, but not against me. And my team's like a30. 000.
Oh. I didn't realize that was part of it, too. So she's like, I became his competitors. Yeah. And so. Yeah, but he played you played hardball and he kept all the angels away from her, you know? Oh, you know, just don't think you're going to do this match up. Look, I wrote a book. Yeah. Oh, yeah, you wrote a book. But there's an interview with him to talk about the book, and so they're saying it's a great it's a good interview because they know all the same people.
Yeah, they really just talk about, like, the show and all the, like. Politics, right? Yeah. Or the inner workings, I should say. Yeah. So I just really, really fast in the time between the get the fuck off my set and your cancel or your band that in between period you didn't think anything and worried about your. Career or anything like.
Well I have by that time I was running on Golden Girl so I was like, you know, right from the OC and you know, and then the next day at the club, Fred Willard was like, you know, hey, it was really. Funny, you know? Yeah. What did Schmuck think? Or he was like, Oh, so. What about that time? Yeah, actually, yeah.
We had we had kind of, like, you know, broken up and they got back together and and then, you know, and, and that other chap, once you got married, you know, and he claims, oh yeah, I got more letters about that and. And who writes letters. Okay. It was really fun. Okay. Yeah. Gosh, this was so much fun. Thanks, you guys. Great. Now. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In 15 minutes. No longer. No. Yeah. No, That was your hilarious. And I love you. I'm so glad you're here. Thank you.
And you know what I was thinking? Maybe we should have the same guests every week because we always have really good guests. No, I mean, the same like, we'll have Jim, we'll have Lorraine, and then. Yeah, we've got. Yeah. Yeah. We just didn't. Really. Plan 1999. Mhm. Yeah. It was a her Fred Willard and Bill Marr came up with it with the concept and the concept was Bill, was like everybody wants to be on television. And I was like, yeah, it was like 1999.
Mm hmm. Yeah. Because why don't we do a show where like, how cast But you know, people who've never acted before. Mm hmm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I thought this was genius, and it was cast of 17 year old, a slutty girl played by an 83 year old woman. Hilarious. Know, clones look nothing. Mhm. And so. So. So there's a built in they're definitely going to laugh. Right.
and we just kept on adding on to it and we just did this stupid, you know, dopey dad sitcom with his dopey dad and Laraine Newman. Oh I love that movie. It's perfect. You know parody of it and, and it was fun. Wow, That was good. You should hang on to that. You don't get to keep. Hmm. Like when you shoot a pilot, like, it doesn't start. At the bottom of every script. It says this script is the property of. Yeah, 20th Century Fox. They mean it. They are like, Here's a VHS copy of your.
Oh, yeah. No, no, we got a copy. Okay. And. And candy. Haha. Yeah, yeah. Here's a play. It pays off. Oh my God. Yeah. Okay. Thank you, Jim. Okay, bye. He's walking. We were going. What an asshole. Why would you say that?