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Newborn Sleep

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Last week, we covered your sleep during pregnancy - but what about sleep after baby? Namely, for your newborn? This week, Heidi and Emma are diving deep into all things newborn sleep. How much, how often, how to do it safely, and when and how to start making bedtime routines that will help everyone in the family sleep more soundly.

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Oh, baby, my baby, I need you, Oh how I need you? What do you expect? As a production of I Heart Radio, I'm your host Heidi Murkoff and I'm a mom on a mission, a mission to help you

know what to expect every step of the way. A sleeping like a baby sounds so peaceful until you actually see a baby sleeping, and then you realize it's anything but peaceful, as you probably noticed the first time you stood over your newborn's bassonet, wondering why her rest was so restless and so noisy, and so many whimpers and squeaks and strange little breathing sounds, you know, the ones that keep you standing over her bassonet in the first place,

and so much waking. Yes, newborns sleep a lot, but usually not for more than two three hours tops at a time, which explains why you're so tired with your sleepy little bundle rousing often for feeds and changes and cuddles. A full night's sleep for you, or even a nice long nap maybe, but a parental pipe dream for now.

And though you knew this new tired normal was coming, you might not have expected exactly how exhausting it would be to care for newborn who spends so much time asleep, you might even be wondering when or even if your little one will actually sleep through the night, and when you'll feel comfortable letting her sleep without watching her baby steps. You will get there eventually, I promise, But I'm not gonna lie by eventually. I am not talking weeks, I'm

talking months. But in the meantime, we are diving deep today into newborn sleep. How much, how often, how to do it safely and if and when? And how to start making bed times and naptimes routine? Getting sleepier already, let's get started. I'm here with Emma. Sorry, I fell asleep. Good. Then we're off to a good start. You knew it wasn't gonna be easy to get newborns to sleep. Do you think that it was harder than you actually expected? Yeah,

you don't really know until it's happening. I'm one who enjoys her sleep, and so after I had Lennox, I was desperate to literally do anything I possibly could do to get them to sleep. So I broke every single cardinal rule, every single thing that you're not supposed to do.

I did just so I could sleep. You know, it's survival of the sleepiest, you could say, when you're a new mom, So whatever gets to you through the night, it's all right, yes, so, but it's how long you keep up those half as they think, that probably matters. What were some of the things that you did with Lennox that maybe you didn't necessarily regret, but regret later on when they became habits. Well, Lennox didn't sleep in

his crib or bass net. Lennox left in my arms, and that went on for a very very long time, like maybe a year ish, and so I really set him up for disaster when it came to sleep. He wasn't sleep tray until he was like four years old. And that was not a mistake I was going to make. With Seby. I was like, not again. This took like fifteen years off my life, the exhaustion. I learned a lot of lessons. I always rocked him to sleep in my arms. He never napped in his crib. He only

napped on me. And so one thing that I was adamant about with Seby is that he's going to learn how to put himself to sleep. Lennox didn't get that advantage. Oh my gosh, I literally drove every single day for three hours so he would sleep. Eventually he slept in the car. I made every single classic mistake you could possibly make. When you were a baby. We lived in New York City, so we didn't have a car. What I would do, I would put you in the stroller

and I would walk around. So actually it's better for my health than driving around. But on a hot day, nothing like it. Let me tell you, I would like freak out because anytime the car would stop at a stop way, I would like freak out, like gonna wake up? Why did you put this stop sign? Right? The same thing in New York City is a I'd have to like be super gentle going over the curbs with the stroller,

and there were always potholes. But the other thing, you have to stop for the light, for the pedestrian crossing lights, and so it was a struggle. And then I'd go into a store with the stroller and you'd immediately wake up, so I couldn't even do my shopping good times. So what did you do differently with sev Sev From the beginning? Okay, now I'm lying. Now I'm lying for a few months until my husband yelled at me to rock him to sleep in my arms, and he knacked on me. I

did give it up. I ripped off the band aid and he started to sleep in his crib and he put himself to sleep. And to this day he is an amazing sleeper. He puts himself to sleep. He is my son where he looks nothing like me, but he can sleep like his mother. I set him up for a good, healthy life of sleep sleep success. Watch tonight,

He's gonna be up all night Murphy's law. Absolutely. And you know with you, guys, I do remember we did sleep training with you when you were about maybe four months, five months, and then you slept well after that until you started coming back into our bed when you were able to. That was super tough for you to quit. I think you were twelve and you stopped doing that. Maybe yeah, So I'd say that was some mistake, but no guilt, live and learn, learn exactly. I would say

I made more of those mistakes the first time. Typically, do make more mistakes with your first one. Same yeah, yeah, And I'm putting mistakes in air quotes because you know, it's not that you make mistakes, it's that you learn on the job, and it's a steep learning curve, especially when it comes to things like this. Yeah, especially when you're tired. Yeah, And it's again with the desperate times,

and desperate parents take desperate measures. And the other thing is you're trying to find the past of least resistance to sleep, and the past to least resistance with a baby or with a toddler is probably going to be in your arms or with some other kind of comforting habits. So you take the easy street when you're a parent sometimes, Oh,

yes you do. And you know, the whole time I'm sitting there, I'm like, Oh, he's only gonna be a baby one this is what I tell myself, so I don't feel like the thing that's not gonna end up going so great eventually. Yeah, the thing is they're not going to be a baby for long, but they'll keep those habits for a lifetime. Exactly exactly. We're gonna try to take easy street, give you some good tips along the way that will make it even easier and hopefully

get your child to develop some good sleep habits. So we're gonna take a quick break, and when week come back, I am answering the biggest questions you have about your newborn sleep and yours. Okay, mom, so this is my favorite topic because it's sleep and if there's one thing that I like, it's sleep. Let's go through some of the biggest questions our listeners have about their newborn sleep.

How many hours should a newborn baby be sleeping? Well, sleep is definitely job one for babies, so they spend more time sleeping than doing anything else, even feeding. My god, how do I apply for this job? I think you exceed the age requirement? But yeah, they feedle up, but

they don't feed as much as they sleep. About sixteen out of every twenty four hours are spent sleeping, and that's really for a good reason, because sleep is when babies do some of their best growing and some of their best developing, So it is always time well spent, as it should be, especially when it's interspersed with frequent feedings, and breastfed babies are gonna need those feedings even more

than formula fed babies. And all newborns are sleepy. That's the way they're born, and that's so that they can do all that important growing and developing. But some newborns are actually especially sleepy and early on. Some babies are completely content to sleep through feeds, and they actually shouldn't do that. It sounds counterintuitive, but it's really important to wake a sleepyhead for feeds if he doesn't wake up on his own and he doesn't demand them himself. It's

not easy. You can try unswaddling some skin to skin, a cool cloth, sitting baby up in your lap, of course, supported that might help. And here's the trick. It's way easier to wake a baby up from rapid eye movement rem sleep active sleep than it is during deep sleep. Deep sleep is a beast to try to wake them up from old habits die hard, Yes they do, okay, So what about all that moving around and all those sounds they're making when they're sleeping. Babies are notorious dunes

and that weird breathing that always made me panic. It makes everybody panic. Remember all that rum sleep that you did during pregnancy, that was the reason you did all the tossing and turning. Well that in the hartburn and the being all night. But that was dream sleep. That's

the rem sleep. And so if you ever stood over sleeping baby, and oh my god, if you haven't done that, you absolutely should, because that's when you see those little eyelids moving around and those ridiculously cute faces that they make, those little pouts and the smile those and the frowns and the puckers, and that's when they make all of those precious little sounds, those little squeaks that make you melt into a pool of slush, and for us it's

just point cute. But baby brains are actually working overtime during rem sleep. That's when babies do a lot of their serious brain development. They're learning and processing information that they soak up when they're awake, so it's never a waste of time. In fact, interestingly enough, premise do more of that REM sleep, and that's probably because their brains need that extra development time that they otherwise would have

gotten on the inside. Now, something else you might notice while you're watching and listening your baby sleep is how irregular your baby's breathing is. During active sleep, it can seem really rapid, it can seem very shallow, and then you have those long pauses between breasts, and that's where parents often go into panic mode. And then you hear those occasional little snorts and grunts, But all of that is normal. That's the good news. It's not going to

stop you from standing over the bassinet anytime soon. But it's normal. It's called periodic breathing, and it's standard for newborns when they're in the ram phase. And of course then you have deep sleep, which babies alternate with active sleep, and they do that about every thirty minutes. Deep sleep. It's also going to make you panic occasionally because they sleep so soundly, they're so still there, breathing is so quiet that sometimes you have to just give them a

little jiggle to make sure they're still breathing. Not that I've ever done that, Yeah, me neither, No, never done that. Okay, So should we really wait out the whimpers before picking them up? Or should we just go in here to kill? I mean, we all learn this eventually, but I'm trying to help my sisters and brothers out so you don't

have to learn the hard way. Unless it's time to wake up for feed, wait to pick up your baby if they're just doing that little light whimpering, that fussing, because they're going to do a lot of that when they're and rem sleep and they might still be sleeping and if they're still sleeping and you jump in to pick them up, then you're going to interrupt that sleep. So it's not the same as crying it out at all. We're not even going they're not at all at this point.

But those little whimpers when they're still sleeping, you don't have to necessarily pick them up right away, and you're going to figure out the difference between crying and whimpering, and you know that sleepy fussing pretty soon, and when they fall and cry, that's when you pick them up, unless, of course, it's time for feet. If if it's time for a feet, then you go for it anyway and wake them up, and it's going to be easier to

wake them up during rem sleep. But sleeping like a baby, that is a load of crap because they are super super noisy when they sleep. Okay, so mixing up days and nights, why do newborns do that? And what can be as parents do? So you did this? Why I did this? Most babies do this if you think about it, they spend nine months in the dark literally day and night.

It's all the same in the womb cocoon. And if you also think about it, when do babies do most of their kicking when they're in utero when you're pregnant, when do they kick They do it at night? Why because that's when you're lying down and during the day, when you're up and around, they're lulled to sleep by the movement, So it's only natural that they would continue that pattern after they're born. So it is natural. It's temporary.

Usually takes a few weeks of adjustment to life on the outside, but babies typically stop mixing up their days and nights on their own, and you can help me that realization with just a few basic tricks. First would be have your baby do most of her daytime sleep in a light room and have her do her nighttime sleep in a dark one, so that you're making that distinction light is for lighter sleep and dark is for

deeper sleep. Second would be to keep her daytime sleep sessions shorter, so you don't want to let her sleep more than three hours at a time during the day and then waker if she goes longer than that. And during the day you can be super engaging. That's the time to pull out all the simulation stops, to do lots of chatting and singing and all those silly faces you were waiting to use. And at night, when your baby wigs only do the necessary diaper changing, you want

to keep that to a minimum. So if you have to change, great, but go for it with a light super low. Don't pull out your phone or turn on the TV when you're doing feeds, and keep all the communications to whisper or softly sung lullabies so that the baby gets the idea that nighttime is not party time. Right. One thing you shouldn't try, though, and a lot of parents learn this The hard way to is try to keep your baby up all day thinking that he's going

to sleep better at night. That does not work. That backfires big time babies need daytime naps, and infants need lots and lots of daytime sleep, and overtired babies actually sleep less well, not better, and the same I think, Emma, you would agree could be said for overtired children. That is so true when Sebby is overtired, I always think he's gonna sleep great that night, and he is up at the breaths crack of dawn. So yeah, okay, one should we expect for a baby to sleep through the night.

I guess like not the first day, And how do you know it's okay to skip the middle of the night feedings. Yeah, so every baby is different. Newborns, whether they're breast or formula fed, or they do a combo, they need to eat several times at least during the night, and they definitely should not do anything approximating sleeping through

the night. Even most three or four months old babies still need at least one middle of the night feeding, maybe two, and a lot of them continue needing at least one until they're pushing six months, and especially breastfed babies, since breast elk is more easily digested, babies need that

refill more frequently. Now. Metabolically speaking, older babies can go without the middle of the night feed once they've reached twelve pounds, but a lot of babies reached twelve pounds in the early early months, and so that might not hold true. And also many babies, whether metabolically they need

to or not, they don't choose to. And that's fine because you know, easy for me to say, But what you can do if you have a midnight muncher who's left twelve pounds in the dust and is still feeding the night away is trying to gradually extend the time between feeds by a few minutes a night. You know or not, if you have to do what feels best

for you and what's comfortable for you. And also remember when a baby wakes with a whimper, look before you leap if you've already just fed her, because she might be sleeping or she might settle back to sleep given a chance. Something else to try. If you're feeling like an all night diner and the nightly special is your boobs. Make sure the baby is getting a full feed before your baby nods off, because otherwise they're having a midnight snack,

not a midnight meal. And the other thing is with breastfeeding. If your baby is only getting a few SIPs, that's the hind milk, that's the skim milk that will not keep them full for the night. So you want to make sure that a baby at least finishes one breast before she conks out again, so she won't wake up

hungry again in twenty minutes. And also you've got to keep in mind sleeping through the night sounds great, but it doesn't mean that you put your baby down to sleep at seven pm and they wake up at seven am. At least, not this early in the sleep game, even

for really good sleeper. Maybe it'll mean a seven or eight o'clock bedtime, then a ten eleven pm snack, and then maybe after some time, if you're lucky, they'll sleep till five maybe six, then a little more bottle or breasts, and then they'll go back to sleep for a couple of hours after that, and gradually. The idea is to expect the longer stretches of sleep to come at night and to get longer and longer, and if they don't

get longer, then we can talk later. You know. Sleep training isn't something you should even think about doing until your baby is closer to six months. Definitely not before four months. But check with the pediatrician. Okay, mom, So

what exactly is safe sleep? What does that mean? Obviously, if you have a newborn, it's going to be a while before you get that full night's sleep right, But you will rest easier if you know your baby is sleeping safely, if not soundly, and that means doing absolutely everything. Experts recommend to minimize the risk of SIDS or sudden

infant death syndrome. This is the must do stuff. And you know it's important when I say it's must do, because there's so little must do in my book, literally, But when it comes to safe sleep, it must do and safely. It starts with the right position right from the start. Flat on his back, not on his side, not on his tummy, not at a semi recline like in a swing or in a car seat. Flat on his back is flat out the safest way for a baby to sleep. A pacifier for sleep is really also protective.

That's what the research shows. If your baby will take one, if he doesn't take a passie, you don't have to stress out. Location also matters. Safest place for your baby to sleep is in your room, next your bed, but not in your bed. So being close to a parent during sleep we know is protective against it. Mind you, nobody is going to sleep soundly that way, least of all you, what with all those baby noises and startles and tossing and turning. But baby will sleep more safely,

and that's what it's all about. Safe sleep space, A bassinet, a pack and play with, a as it insert, or a crib are all safe for sleep, assuming they're new, they've passed safety requirements, no old models or ones that might have been recalled, and definitely no antiques. Unsafe sleep spaces are unfortunately baby's favorites. So and I hear this all the time from mom's My baby loves sleeping in a doctat I know we're not supposed to put the baby in in the docatad for sleep, but that's the

only place my baby will sleep. Loungers, nest docatots, poppies, all of those are fun for hanging out, but not for sleep, and baby sleep way better in those spaces because they're so super cozy, but they are not safe. And the same thing for swings or seats or rock and plays, and those have been recalled for that reason. Anything that puts baby at a semi recline. Yes, babies will not offer them, absolutely because they love that motion, and some babies will sleep in them given the opportunity

for hours at a time. But for safety's sake, as soon as you can move a baby into a safe sleep space if they fallen asleep in a swing or in a seat, and don't let babies nap in those. You notice when a newborn is in that position, their heads flopped forward and that can lead to their airway being blocked, and it can also lead to tightening of the neck muscles called tora colis. So definitely none of that.

And also no sleeping on so fuzz even if you're sitting nearby and you think your baby can't roll over yet, so why not put them on the sofa they'll sleep better. No, no, no, no armchairs, no bean bag chairs. And don't forget my motto. This is something I taught Lennox when he was about to become a big brother, and he loved repeating it. What goes in the crib nothing but the baby. Nothing in that safe sleep space. Otherwise it's not a safe

sleep space anymore. No pillows, no positioners, no blankets, no rolled up blankets as positioners, no blankets. It's for a tight swaddle, and no swaddles at all once you have a baby Houdini who can escape from the hoose, because loose bedding is also unsafe. And no soft toys, no wedges, no bumpers, just a baby flat on his back on a firm, tight fitting mattress covered by a tight fitting sheet. I did listen to you about all this stuff. I didn't have a docta talk. I didn't have any of that,

And those are fine to have to clarify. If you use a doctop for lounging, that's perfectly fine. That's great as long is they're awake or you're supervising, but don't let them sleep in it. And also if there's a chance that you're gonna fall asleep with your baby and one of those things, that's also a risk. Okay, so what if you fall asleep with your baby on top of you. We all have picture of our husband's sleeping with the baby on top of them because it's just

oh so precious. I love them, And that's totally fine if you're awake and taking that picture of the baby is sleeping on dad. Yeah, you know, it's so tempting. It is so hard not to fall asleep when you're so tired your baby's on top of you. Breastfeeding moms especially because the breastfeeding hormones make you so so sleepy,

so it happens. It's gonna happen, But it's much safer to put your baby down in that safe sleep spot as soon as you can before you fall asleep and no matter where you're sleeping, but especially on a sofa or recliner. What happens with that sometimes this baby can fall off or become entrapped, and that's super dangerous, especially well clearly if you're sleeping. And I know, I know, it's the best feeling in the world to have a sweet, sticky baby on your chest or in your arms, but

it's just too risky to take that chance. I mean, what about co sleeping? Is there right way and the wrong way? You know I did it, and I know you did. You told me not to. I didn't listen, which is not a massive surprise, you know. But the thing is, the term co sleeping is actually confusing. It's way more accurate to say room sharing versus bed sharing. Now, room sharing is recommended for preventing SIDS, completely recommended, but

bed sharing is not recommended. And I know a lot of people say you can do it safely, but the AP and all other experts, most of other experts are not going to agree with that. There are lots of tight spaces that a baby can be come and trapped in. And also if you could be sure that nobody would roll over during the night like a heavy sleeper might and moms do sleep much more lightly around their babies in general. That's what the research shows, but it's just

not something experts want you to risk. There are so many variables and it's really hard to completely modify or control all of them to make bed sharing safe. Once again, I get it, I totally get it. If I'm gonna be honest, there is nothing in the world I'd rather sleep with, sorry Eric, than a sweet smelling bundle of baby. But as tempting as it is and convenient for feeding, because babies right there and can nip as they want to, you gotta put safety first. Okay, but how can you

get them to sleep? Should we swaddle? Should we use white noise? What about putting them down the sleep these are see? For me, I'm team white noise. I can't sleep without a white noise machine. My kids can't sleep. Yeah, I know, I know, And there's a good reason. Fat babies are creatures of comfort, and they're creatures of habit, and that's especially true when it comes to sleep. They are comforted by what they are used to, and what they're used to is being in I'm gonna say it

again that womb cocoon. No, not the womb cocoon. They're all snug and they're tightly wrapped and they have very little room, so they can't move around and they're in a fetal position, and by the time they're moving closer to the exit, they really can't. They have no space at all, and so tight spaces are there their happy place, not wide open spaces. And that's why so many of them enjoy being swaddled, not at all. Every baby is different. Some prefer their hands or their feet to be free,

but for most, you know, it's a wrap. It's a wrap, sleep sack, hybrid sleepsack, swaddle, those are great too. They'll also prefer a smaller sleep space, so a cradle or a bassinet or a bassinet insert at first is way better than a crib for sleep if you can get one now. Motion motion. It's not realistic for you to keep up rocking around the clocks, but when you rock a baby to sleep in the early months, that's absolutely

fine because they're used to that. It's comforting, and especially during the day when you're moving around, they're used to that movement, and bassnets that rock can help you keep that motion going after you put your baby down. There are also some high tech versions that come with high price tags. My worry about those is that they are electronics,

so they keep rocking on their own. The thing about that is they can be super addictive and super expensive, and some babies end up hating all of that motion. And that's after you've already laid down the big box for the basternet. Something else babies are used to, and now we're getting to the white noise. They are used to sleeping with noise. And you think the uterus would be a pretty quiet place, but it's actually louder than

you would expect. There's your heartbeat, the gurgling of your tummy from all of that gas, the sound of your voice, other sounds around the house, like dogs barking, laurence honking. If you live in a city, so a newborn is likely to sleep better. One is not completely quiet with white noise machine, a fan going, saw music, or a soother that imitates uterine or heartbeat sounds. Now you know, people say, well, should you keep the house quiet when

baby sleeping? You can try to minimize lots of extra extraneous background noise, but the reality is they're going to have an easier time sleeping when they're older if they can sleep through your phone ringing or the doorbell ringing than if they were used to complete quiet. So what about not putting them down asleep? That's what I did with Len and Sevy, always awake when I put them down. So you're talking about trying to put them down awake instead of asleep. Correct the idea that they need to

fall asleep on their own. Yeah, it is so so hard for young babies not to fall asleep when they're feeding. I mean it's almost I would say it's almost impossible. So it's not as easy as saying, oh, I'll just put my baby down awake and that way he'll learn to fall asleep. So I mean that is ideal, but it's not super realistic. Listen, any chance that you can

do that and put them down drowsy. You want them drowsy but still a little bit awake so they can travel the last few inches to dreamland on their own, and you know your baby will, as a creature of comfort and habit, get used to any of those comforting habits that you've created, the feeding to sleep, rocking to sleep. I wouldn't worry about that. As long as you kick those sleep crutches by the time you reach the six month mark, it's really all good. And you know then

there's always the question. This was an issue for me constantly when you were a baby, Will she stay asleep once I put her down? And the answer is it's pretty dicey. I do that with you. When you were a baby. I'd rock rock, rock, rock rock. It would take all that rocking effort. You finally asleep. I'd say

a prayer, I'd rock some more. I'd say another prayer, and then I would try to stop breathing right and I ever so gently put you down, and the moment you would hit the mattress gently because I was super gentle with you, you'd wake right up. I swear I'm getting anxiety just talking about that right now. I'm getting anxiety hearing it. It's so hard, and this is one

of the problems that a lot of moms have. For me, it was probably had a lot to do with the fact that my arms are so short, so having a mattress that's a little bit higher up, if you're vertically challenged like me, that could help. And also a rocking bassonet. We didn't have a rocking bassonet. But when you put them down and then rock a little bit, do some shishing, and hopefully they'll fall back asleep. When should we put our baby on a sleep schedule? And what exactly should

that newborn sleep routine look like. So again, we're we are taking baby steps the road to sleeping through the night. Let's just say it might be a long and winding road in some homes. But the first steps on the road, no matter where it leads and how long it takes, are good sleep habits and a good sleep routine. So before we dig in, I've got to clarify. A sleep routine is not a sleep schedule. Newborn babies don't have schedules,

and they're not supposed to have schedules. They might start to fall into some kind of pattern of sleep on their own, and they might not, because again, every baby is different, and some babies, by nature they're more regular and others are by nature more irregular. But it's not something that we as parents can or should impose on

them in the first few months. The only exception is, as we mentioned before, waking up a baby when it's time for a feet if they've gone too long without one, or encouraging a little extra daytime play to help a baby distinguish between days and nights. But beyond that, you do not want to mess with those natural cycles. Now, once babies two or three months old, you might start to notice a rhythm, if not a full on pattern

to waking and sleeping. So it's not going to be a schedule, but it'll be a little bit more of a predictable pattern. Sleep, wake, eat, sleep, wake, eat sleep. But the periods of wake time, hopefully they'll come more often during the day, are gradually going to grow, and as baby becomes more alert and more sociable and way way more fun to play with. But even a three months old is so active and engaged and sociable and smiling and you know, starting to giggle. They'll still be

sleeping upwards of fourteen even sixteen hours a day. It's just that they're doing slightly longer stretches than a newborn, and hopefully those stretches will come at night. Now, sleep routines, that is a can do, and it should do. It's not a must do because we have very few of those, but you can start doing it right from the start on the plus side a predictable bedtime routine. It's easy to establish soothing on both sides. It's best of all,

the long term payoff potential is huge. You have a baby who hopefully comes to anticipate bedtime and associate the routine with falling asleep, and ultimately, one day or one night in the future, hopefully not too too too far distant future, they fall asleep on their own. But again, babies are creatures of habit and comfort, and what a bedtime routine does it creates a comforting habit that's so

consistent it becomes routine. You have a predictable series of steps that gently apply the breaks to a baby's mind and body, and it starts to clue baby in the bedtime is the time to stop buzzing and start getting sleepy, and hopefully it lays down a foundation for that childhood of of happy bedtimes and healthy sleep, and that at least is the long term goal. Keep it simple, keep

it consistent. A warm gass or even a sponge bath if you're not doing a nightly bath, low lights, soft music, a mellow vibe, turn off the TV, turn off the notifications on your phone, a massage, and you can use lavender scented lotion to get them extra sleepy, quiet cuddles, even a story. And yes, you can start reading to your baby on the first night, just to get into the habit. Some rocking, some lullabies, shishing, and then fingers

crossed sleep. Okay, so i'ma you're a tired mom, perpetually tired. What's your best advice to those tired moms out there. I want you to understand that I even when they're out of the house, you're always going to have that mom worries. So no matter what age they are, you're going to be concerned and you're gonna they're your kids. So just know that you will never sleep like before

you had children. That's a cherry thought. I think the ultimate irony is once they start sleeping through the night, you've already lost that ability for a lifetime exactly. So we're going to be the same. But it will get better, moms, it will get better. We'll get better. It's a new normal. It's the new normal, and you'll get used to it. You golfed, ask who needs sleep? You got a coffee,

You're fine, You're gonna get some sleep. Don't listen to Emma, here's the safe and comfy sleeping Baby Belove, my baby Belove. I need you, Oh how I need you. Thanks for listening. Remember I'm always here for you. What to Expect is always here for you. We're all in this together. For more on what you heard on today's episode, visit what to Expect dot com slash podcast. You can also check out What to Expect when You're Expecting, What to Expect the First Year, and the What to Expect app. And

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