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What She Did Next

Are you at a career crossroads and thinking about 'what's next' for you? Join host Jacqui Ooi as she talks to women across Australia about their inspiring career change stories and what they’ve learned that might help other women.

Whether you want to redesign your career in some way or completely change industries, these stories are for you. We hope you hear something in these conversations that inspires your next move.

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SUMMER SPECIAL: Mumbition feat. Jacqui Ooi

Hello and Happy 2025 to you! It's been a while between episodes but today we're bringing you a special conversation from our friends over at the Mumbition podcast, featuring our very own Jacqui Ooi. This episode takes you behind the scenes of our work with career-changing women, with lots of great insights and inspiration for anyone on the cusp of a new chapter. Hope you enjoy it! Welcome to the Mumbition Summer Series! This week, we're excited to feature Jacqui Ooi, the founder of What She Did ...

Jan 15, 202532 minSeason 5Ep. 50

Nina Karnikowski | Mindful traveller – how she reimagined her dream career to support the planet

What do you do when your dream career suddenly loses its shine? Do you give it up for something new – or change the way you’re doing it? If anyone had a dream career, it was Nina Karnikowski. As a travel writer at the Sydney Morning Herald, and later going freelance, she was off on adventurous travels a dozen times a year. But in 2019, she went on a trip that would change her forever, coming face to face with the devastating impacts of climate change and leaving her questioning her lifestyle and...

Apr 17, 202437 minSeason 5Ep. 49

A sneak peek inside our Career Change Kickstarter course

Are you at a career crossroads and thinking about ‘what’s next’ for you? Then you’ll want to dive into this mini episode, to find out how our Career Change Kickstarter course can help you! If you’re feeling the niggle (or roar) of needing a change, but you’re not sure what you want to do next or what steps to take, this course is for you. Applications are now open for our April program (get in quick!). Join the waitlist on the ‘Our courses’ page at whatshedidnext.com.au to receive the course inf...

Mar 27, 20244 minSeason 5Ep. 48

Kris McKee | In bloom – how she stepped away from nursing to fulfil her creative dreams

Have you always dreamed of doing something creative? But you’re not sure how to turn that into a career? For Kris McKee, her early creative interests fell by the wayside as she pursued a more stable career in nursing. Being a nurse opened up opportunities to travel and live in London, and over 20 years, she worked her way up in a very specialised field. Despite her success, there was always a sense that something was missing… but she was worried it was too late to make a change. When COVID struc...

Oct 31, 202334 minSeason 5Ep. 47

Malini Raj | Making an impact – how she reshaped her corporate career to be a voice for change

Do you want to make a difference in the world without leaving your corporate career? Are you passionate about using your skills for good? This has been a driver for Malini Raj throughout her working life, as she’s built a successful career in financial services. Malini started out on a more traditional path in investment banking. But she soon discovered a passion for working with people and creating positive change… which steered her into the social impact space. Today Malini has a multifaceted ...

Sep 26, 202334 minSeason 5Ep. 46

Steph Jacobs | Working with kids – how she found her happy place in the world of early childhood

Have you been rethinking your career after becoming a mum? Do you want to explore what else could be out there for you? For Steph Jacobs, the transition to motherhood was a real turning point in her career… and after having two sons of her own, she became fascinated by the world of early childhood. It was a big leap from her previous career, working in HR, but the more she explored, the more her interest grew. Steph ended up retraining while her youngest was still in preschool and returned to wo...

Sep 12, 202329 minSeason 5Ep. 45

Anna-Liza Mopio-Jane | Life after sport – how she made the leap to the mental health field

Are you in a career that has an expiry date? And soon, you’ll have to figure out ‘what’s next’ for you? This was the case for Anna-Liza Mopio-Jane, who started out as an athlete in the world of swimming, going all the way to the Beijing Olympics representing Papua New Guinea. But after more than 12 years competing internationally, she retired from the sport in 2015… and has retrained as an accredited counsellor. Now running her own practice in Brisbane, she’s using her new skills to give back to...

Aug 29, 202327 minSeason 5Ep. 44

Melissa Di Marco | Tea master – how she took brave steps to build an inspiring business

Have you fallen out of love with a career that once inspired you? Do you want to feel that spark of excitement in your work life again? This is where Melissa Di Marco found herself after 12 years in the hairdressing industry, but she didn’t know what else she could do. Putting her CV out into the world, she hit a raft of rejections – but she did land a job in a tea shop. Being introduced to the world of tea opened up a whole new interest for her and she has since become a certified tea master an...

Aug 15, 202333 minSeason 5Ep. 43

Evie Farrell | Finding freedom – how she created a life and career of travel with her daughter

Do you love the idea of packing up your life to go travelling? Just stepping off the daily treadmill and seeing where it takes you? That’s exactly what Evie Farrell did back in 2016 and her travel buddy was her young daughter, Emmie. As a solo mum, Evie had been struggling to balance her busy corporate career with spending enough time with Emmie and she decided an overseas adventure together was the answer. But what was intended to be a year-long trip away, exploring Asia, has turned into a whol...

Aug 01, 202334 minSeason 5Ep. 42

We’re back! Season 5 is here

Are you thinking about making a career change? But you’re not sure ‘what’s next’ for you? Join host Jacqui Ooi for Season 5 of What She Did Next, as she chats with women across Australia who’ve changed up their careers in all sorts of interesting ways – to create more freedom and flexibility, explore their creative interests and do work that feels more meaningful. Whether you want to redesign your career in some way or completely change industries, these stories are for you. We hope you hear som...

Jul 28, 20232 minSeason 5Ep. 41

Season Four Highlights | Career change conversations to inspire your next move

We’re wrapping up Season Four of What She Did Next with our always popular highlights episode. If you’re new to the show, this is where you can get a little taster of the stories we’ve shared and if you like what you hear, you can scroll back through the feed to find the full episodes. This season, we’ve been chatting to women who’ve made all sorts of inspiring career changes at all different stages of their careers. Some of these women have redesigned their careers in some way – by going freela...

Sep 13, 202213 minSeason 4Ep. 40

BONUS: How to change careers through online study (it’s easier than ever!)

The idea of going back to study when you’re already juggling work and family might seem out of reach... maybe you’re worried that it’s too time consuming or too expensive or just not possible to fit in with your busy schedule. But things have definitely changed on the study front, with the shift to online learning opening up a whole new world of possibilities, and the rise of short courses and more flexible courses making a career change more doable than ever. Kathy Garabelli from Swinburne Onli...

Jul 05, 202218 minSeason 4Ep. 39

Jen Webster | Helping people – how she found her place in charities after leaving the corporate world

Jen Webster worked in the IT industry for 30 years, spruiking software for some big tech firms until her first child started school. Needing more flexibility in her work, Jen shifted to a part-time role running her organisation’s corporate social responsibility program… which opened her up to the world of charities. It was a role she loved for many years until suddenly she was faced with redundancy – a daunting prospect in her early 50s, but also paving the way to make a career change and follow...

Jun 21, 202234 minSeason 4Ep. 38

Melissa Chan | Journey of discovery – how she’s turned different interests into a multi-passionate career

Melissa Chan has been a career changer throughout her working life, driven by a desire to learn and embrace new experiences. During her 15-year career, she’s done everything from teaching yoga to advising a Prime Minister… and she’s also spent time in both the corporate and creative fields as a management consultant, writer and documentary maker. Melissa is what you might call the ultimate ‘slashie’ – or what these days is often referred to as ‘multi-passionate’ – following her curiosity to expl...

Jun 07, 202233 minSeason 4Ep. 37

Dervilla McGowan | Craft distiller – how she made the leap from academia to award-winning gin maker

Dervilla McGowan had always loved science, ever since she was a kid. She went on to study microbiology at uni and even completed a PhD. But at the end of her studies, she realised a career in academia wasn’t for her… and instead she wanted to use her scientific skills to make craft gin! Derv and her hubby launched Anther in 2016, an award-winning gin brand that celebrates Australian botanicals and employs mostly women. More recently, they built their own distillery and bar at the historic woolle...

May 24, 202242 minSeason 4Ep. 36

Jane Hutcheon | Creator-in-chief – how she’s treading her own path after 25 years at the ABC

Jane Hutcheon was a familiar face on our TV screens for 25 years. During her stellar career at the ABC, she was a foreign correspondent, a news presenter and the host of popular interview show One Plus One. But in 2019, Jane announced her decision to leave the national broadcaster… driven by a sense that life was getting short and there was more she wanted to do. Jane had been doing an annual stocktake in the years leading up to her decision – reflecting on where she was at, what she enjoyed doi...

May 10, 202243 minSeason 4Ep. 35

Tamara Pitelen | Going green – how she retrained as a sustainability consultant to help tackle the climate crisis

Tamara Pitelen had worked in the media industry for 25 years in jobs that took her all over the world, before her growing concern about the climate crisis led to a major career change. The thought had been brewing for a few years as she started to tire of endless magazine deadlines. And looking back, she says, it was also around the time menopause was kicking in – a big transition time for many women. The turning point came when Tamara’s best friend Erin phoned her with an idea to launch their o...

Apr 26, 202235 minSeason 4Ep. 34

Chamani Weerasekara | Style startup – how she created a conscious fashion label while juggling her day job

Chamani Weerasekera always wanted to help people, so choosing a career as a pharmacist working in hospitals made a lot of sense. But a few years into her career, she realised she wanted something more… and in true ‘Eat, Pray, Love’ style, she headed overseas to see what else was out there for her. For the next three years Chamani worked as a tour guide in Southeast Asia, loving the travel and adventure but seeing poverty all around her every day. Inspired by the work of local charities, an idea ...

Apr 12, 202233 minSeason 4Ep. 33

Emma McMillan | Write way – how she built a successful freelance business for greater flexibility

Emma McMillan loved many things about her job as a high school teacher but 12 years into her career, she was burnt out. As head of the drama and dance department, the additional night-time and weekend rehearsals on top of a heavy day-to-day workload had simply become unmanageable. When she fell pregnant with her son, a year of mat leave was the perfect opportunity to explore what else might be out there for her… and when she couldn’t find a job that she wanted, she decided to create it herself. ...

Apr 05, 202228 minSeason 4Ep. 32

We’re back! Season 4 is here

Are you at a career crossroads and thinking about what’s next for you? Join host Jacqui Ooi for Season 4 of What She Did Next, as she chats with women across Australia who’ve successfully made career changes 10, 20, even 30 years into their careers. We’ll find out why they did it, how they did it and their best tips to help other women. Whether you’re looking to make a total career switch or to redesign your career in some way, these fun and engaging conversations will provide insights and inspi...

Mar 29, 20222 minSeason 4Ep. 31

Season Three Highlights | Conversations with inspiring female changemakers

Highlights from our third season of conversations with some truly inspiring women. This episode will get you across the kind of stories we share... and if you like what you hear, you can scroll back through the feed to find the full episodes. As regular listeners will know, the conversations we feature are with women from a whole range of backgrounds who have navigated some pretty big changes in their lives and careers. These are women in business, in leadership, in the not-for-profit sector and...

May 27, 202117 minSeason 3Ep. 30

Ingerlise Svaleng | Gift of hope – rewriting the opening act for babies born with Down syndrome

Becoming a first-time mum should be a joyful celebration but what if everyone around you was saying ‘sorry’ instead of ‘congratulations’… Our guest today is Ingerlise Svaleng and she’s the founder of 21 Gifts – an initiative she started with her husband after their first daughter, Maia, was born with Down syndrome. Maia’s ‘welcome to the world’ was not as IngerLise wanted, not because of her daughter’s diagnosis but because of the response of the medical staff around her. The idea that her beaut...

Apr 18, 202141 minSeason 3Ep. 29

Kylie Flament | Greater good – caring for people and the planet through social enterprise

Our guest today is Kylie Flament and she’s the General Manager of Green Connect, an award-winning social enterprise that does incredible work helping young people and former refugees into employment, while leading the way in growing fair food and diverting waste from landfill. These days Kylie loves nothing more than spending time at the Green Connect farm on the outskirts of Wollongong in NSW, or utilising her impressive array of skills to generate funds and interest in their work. But when the...

Mar 30, 202143 minSeason 3Ep. 28

Solai Valliappan | Risk and reward – investing in start-ups and championing female founders

Our guest today is Solai Valliappan and she’s an investor in the tech space, with a keen focus on start-ups that are bringing about positive change. She’s also a champion of female founders and hopes to inspire more women to start their own companies and get the backing they need to bring their big ideas to the world. Solai decided to become an investor after observing the lack of women on the funding side – particularly women of colour – and realising that having more female investors would ult...

Mar 16, 202143 minSeason 3Ep. 27

Lidia Thorpe | Lifelong activist – bringing a powerful new voice into Federal Parliament

Our guest today is Greens Senator Lidia Thorpe and she’s a passionate advocate for human rights, social justice and the environment. She’s also a proud Gunnai Gunditjmara and Djab Wurrung woman, who takes inspiration from a long line of strong matriarchs in her family. In 2017, Lidia made history by becoming the first Aboriginal woman to be elected to the Victorian Parliament. And in 2020, she made the leap to Federal Parliament as the first Aboriginal Senator for Victoria. But Lidia’s path into...

Mar 07, 202146 minSeason 3Ep. 26

Victoria McGrane | Van life – running a business remotely while travelling around Australia

Our guest today is Victoria McGrane and she’s the artist and textile designer behind The Scenic Route, whose distinctive illustrations inspired by Australian nature have earned her collaborations with major brands and retailers. She’s also among a growing number of Australians who’ve traded in the daily grind, in search of a different way of life and a greater sense of freedom. After selling their house, Victoria and her partner Darren got rid of nearly all their possessions to move into a solar...

Feb 23, 202140 minSeason 3Ep. 25

Yanti Turang | Frontline nurse – taking on COVID-19 and becoming a leader in global healthcare

*Content warning: This episode contains mentions of death and grief, so please consider this before listening, particularly if you might find this triggering. In Australia, you can call Lifeline on 13 11 14 to access 24-hour crisis support. Our guest today is Yanti Turang and she’s a registered nurse from Australia who lives in the US, where she has spent the past year working on the frontlines of the COVID-19 pandemic. She’s also the founder and executive director of LearnToLive, a global healt...

Feb 09, 202154 minSeason 3Ep. 24

Sanaz Fotouhi | Writer’s journey – bringing to light the stories of women and children in Afghanistan

*Content warning: This episode contains brief mentions of self-harm and suicide, so please consider this before listening, particularly if you might find this triggering. In Australia, you can call Lifeline on 13 11 14 to access 24-hour crisis support. Our guest today is Sanaz Fotouhi and she’s an author, academic and filmmaker, whose book-writing journey began back in her 20s with a life-changing trip to Afghanistan. What she saw on that trip would stay with her forever and it set her on a path...

Jan 26, 202135 minSeason 3Ep. 23

Jenny McAllister | Accessible style – making fashion more inclusive for people with disability

Our guest today is Jenny McAllister and she’s on a mission to transform the fashion industry, to make it more inclusive and accessible for the one in five Australians living with a disability. Jenny suffered a stroke at the age of 21 and that life-changing event – which she was lucky to survive – left her with reduced mobility that makes it difficult to grip or hold things and requires the use of a wheelchair or walking frame to get around. One thing that didn’t change after Jenny had her stroke...

Jan 12, 202138 minSeason 3Ep. 22

Season Three Trailer with Jacqui Ooi

Welcome to Season Three of What She Did Next, hosted by Jacqui Ooi. We’re excited to bring you our new series of conversations with some truly inspiring women. This trailer episode provides a recap of what the show is about and our new partnership with Women’s Agenda. We’ll be releasing episodes fortnightly this season, so make sure you hit the subscribe button in your podcast app to catch our conversations as they land. CREDITS Host and producer: Jacqui Ooi Join us on Instagram: https://www.ins...

Jan 11, 20213 minSeason 3Ep. 21
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