I think we're on the air. Hey, Jason. Dead air to start. Don't look awkward. Okay, well, I can't see your face. Yeah. You're going to be awkward, I feel awkward. This is good. Hey, everybody's on the air. Welcome to the What's Your Problem podcast. This season, we've decided to move to another platform, which in this case is a podcast, so that no one has to see us. They can just hear us, and we all wear our tuxedos and ball gowns for no good reason.
Absolutely, yeah. I'm Jason Kane, lead instructional designer at Schoolcraft College working with distance learning. I'm here with. I'm Bernadette Basara, the not lead instructional designer at Schoolcraft College. Follow our instructional designers. And I am Katelyn Mortenson, another follower instructional designer. Yeah. Not really. No. We're all a team and today we are going to kick things off since we are a podcast, right?
We're going to talk about multimedia in education, a podcast being an example of one. And so let's just explain what multimedia is, which is a series of different ways of representing content. Right. Images. Videos audio images. Is gamification right. That's good. Those are examples of it. And I mean, I think it's fair to say that the. I think this is great. I know we're editing it. Oh yeah. We're editing it.
Oh this is going to be two minutes long when we're, like so intimidating. No it's great. We have to. You get in where you fit in on this thing. Yeah, that's how it works. Um, my feeling about it is that multimedia clearly is something that is universally effective in teaching people stuff. You know, like the absence of it is quite obvious. So I think I always want to talk by just saying, where has multimedia affected any of us in terms of how we learn stuff?
And I just remember when I was a teacher, the one of the best ways I had to teach English to high school kids. And you know how fanatic they are about it. They just love it. They all line up at the door to get in. They can't wait to learn English. They bring popcorn. Exactly. Oh yeah. And then I'm supposed to teach them about figurative language and irony and symbolism.
And so you're like, okay, how do you do it? And so back in my day, we didn't have all the fancy equipment I'm sitting here with. And, uh, I would I would get VHS tapes. I'll put a note in the liner notes for what. Yeah, what a VHS tape is. And, uh, I would record clips of movies, probably violating copyright laws doing so. Um, yeah. This is the statute of limitations on that has got to be over by now. Uh, and, uh, I would just find clips in movies that were like, this is irony right here.
And then this is dramatic irony, and then this is symbolism. And they would all be like a few seconds long from various films, mostly Star Wars related and things like that, because I, you know, piloting my own ship here. And it really helped not only them understand what it is, but then in terms of their writing, start to want to write in those ways, which was my goal, that we were writing memoirs, you know, so it's not just like I'm I can describe irony.
I want you to be able to write irony. Right? And so seeing it on the definition is good. Seeing it in a book is great, but when they see it in another format, it was even better. So just the simplicity, the simplicity of being, you know, and using something modern and different really helped. Well, so what do you guys think? Okay. We're just talking about, uh, how is how we'll use multimedia. Yeah. Or or have experienced it just as a way that goes.
Oh, now I get something, I think. From my personal. For a long time I was very anti podcast. I was very anti audiobook and I am glad we invited you. I know right but see you wanted me here because I was a convert because right around the pandemic what I started going on long walks in the woods like Hillary Clinton, I've discovered I was like, oh, I don't have time to read, I don't have time to do this.
And podcast became like my new BFF that I could multitask in a way that's I can still, you know, take in this content, think about it, pause it, rewind it as I'm walking, but also at the same time, you know, it's allowing me to do more in a way that works for me in a way that I wasn't necessarily expecting. Which is exactly why we're doing this. Because what's your problem? Can't be taken on the road and do a, you know, little woodsy walk is you're not gonna be staring at our little segments.
But now you can you can take this anywhere to the tip of Mount Everest and listen to us at the same time. And still taking the views. Yeah, yeah. About you, Caitlyn. Uh, I guess for me, multimedia is how I like videos or how I learn best. Like, I know a lot of instructors or other things, like they like to lecture, but I've always learn best through videos and like, uh, I love to cook, but I'm really bad at following a written recipe.
Or like if they're like, chop it this way. I'm like, I don't know what what kind of like julienne chop. I don't know how to do that. So I like to watch videos for cooking. And that's like, I like how I learn best. That's great. I think that's a really good point because I think the recipes are there, right? One form of representation, but then something else for the others. And so multimedia, the multi part is even more important than the media.
It's just hey is there a one way to do this. No. There's a bunch of ways to to learn. That sounds good. And now I get you're a convert. You were a podcast hater. Uh, so let's talk about what do we want to avoid though, especially in our I guess, in our professional roles here, you know, is there can there be too much media, multiple multimedia? Can there be too can it be distracting? Yeah, you can saturate for sure.
The market. Yeah. Like like a module or just a course in general of like way too many videos. Or maybe you have a video explaining one thing, textbook explaining another thing, uh, image explaining something to a, um, what are those things called? Uh, infographics? Yeah, yeah. Like you could have way too many things explaining one thing, right?
Just pick one and stick with it. That's very good because we are in this, you know, and I guess I should mention, I obviously people tuned into our first episode and probably thought for sure we're going to be just talking about AI, but we're going to bring AI into this conversation, but we don't want it to drive everything, but it is going to generate so many ways of doing things that you do have to be careful like that. You're not over saturating, like you said. Yeah. Or overwhelm.
Yeah. Well, man, that really is a good segue into our next feature, the weird news segment, which, uh, we are going to try to include in our very contemporary podcast, uh, taking something straight out of the headlines and talking about it under the topic that we have, which today is multimedia and education. And, uh, so we read recently that there was a remote Amazon tribe that has been introduced to the full blast of the internet, thanks to Elon Musk and his Starlink. Starlink.
Yeah. That's it. Uh, and this tribe, the Bo tribe. Yeah. And they had been completely cut off from all technology. And thanks to this advanced technology of being able to deliver the the infrastructure over the internet, they were instantly able to have smartphones and the full internet. And suddenly, you know what happened? They were exposed everything. Everything. And according to this article, uh, at first, it's obviously eye opening.
It's like I thought my world was this area. Now I see there's other ways to be other places to go. Inspiration happened. People said maybe I can go somewhere else or learn something new. But then quickly they were addicted, addicted to social media and media pornography and a lot less was getting done. Suddenly, no one's doing their jobs or tasks. Uh, and this happened pretty rapidly. And then even cultural interests started disappearing and it became a little stagnant.
So this this article, while obviously, uh, a very singular situation, is, uh, also kind of a warning that, like, we can overwhelm, we can we can introduce more than we mean to, uh, and we can certainly distract with this stuff. No, I mean, it's it's like, you know, I, I couldn't imagine opening the floodgates like that, you know, like trying to get a glass of water from, like, a waterfall, like, you know, whereas the rest of civilization slowly got added in.
So I think they got that better balance. But the, the all of it, everything everywhere, all at once vibe was would would overwhelm anybody. Yeah. Yeah that's a good that's good. See, that's a using, uh, multimedia reference to make a connection to a thing. Michelle Yeoh fan here. Michelle Yeoh fan. Uh, we all are. We should invite her. Yeah, actually. That's important. Yeah. We'll talk about special guests at the end of the show. Uh, it's a show. It's a show, it's a show. It's a show.
Episode of a show. Yeah. Okay, well, that can. That concludes weird news. What's our next part? This is I like this. You're not like this. Very good at. No, I kind of like this because it's moving at whatever pace we want it to move. Uh, I think if we get through this, I think I'll be better than you're getting through it. I mean, if we're through it, I'm just like, we're not going to abandon ship. No, I know, I just like I'm getting there. Okay?
I think we have to talk about production. Well, it's like a double edged sword, isn't it? Yes. I produce a thing because I want your attention. Um, but I also can distract from the point. If I'm not focused on exactly what I want you to do. And then are you talking about where am I sending you next? What's that? Uh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's true. So it all comes back when it comes to all forms of, of multimedia and the whether it's the addictive quality or the interest level.
Um, it is about where do you want people to be before you produce it. Right. Because we're sitting here talking about a, uh, podcast show and we don't even have a theme song. So like, how in the world, which is a form of multimedia, I want you to not be interested in my show. I got it, we just kicked on. Was it record? We didn't have our What's Your Problem show. And everybody, all our fans of our nine seasons plus. Yeah nine. So many. It's got to be nine right? I think it was nine nine.
Yeah I'm just awkward cast member that they recast one of the main character who came in anything. Yeah. Yeah. Uh but that is a huge part of I mean, think about the 80s when every TV show had a theme song. Now it doesn't seem like it's as big of a deal. There's other ways which Joe still still leans into it, but, you know, they go hard on those theme songs. Yeah. Point is, we need a theme song in our. Are we all, uh, expert musicians?
No, no, no, this is. The part of the show where we're going to introduce an AI tool, one that is in the headlines as well, one that is, uh, being sued relentlessly for its ability to gather the music ecology of the world and take prompts and text and generate full songs. It is called sumo, and they are amazing because you can literally become a full producer of music. And so we're going to test drive soon. All right.
Now to be able to take this platform that is a podcast of what's your problem and generate a new theme song for us. So, so let's let's figure it out. We are going to come up with what kind of what kind of energy do we want for a theme song for a show like this? Low high upbeat, high high. Happy. Okay. You know, and we need a theme song. It's hosted by three instructional designers. Um, we're talking about news, current issues in education.
So we want to make sure it's about that and distance learning. Yeah. Yeah. So let's let's prompt it throw a little ocelot in there. You know you want to. Yeah. All right. We have a prompt here uh that we are looking for an upbeat anthem theme song for What's Your Problem, hosted by instructional designers at Schoolcraft College. And we are talking about current issues in distance learning. And education is thinking about it. It's thinking about it.
And what it does is it actually creates multiple versions of the song. So we'll have two to choose from. It looks like. All right. Uh, so before we unveil what's, you know, has come up with, we first of all have to extend our apologies to our special guest, uh, Kylie Byrne, instructional technologist. Uh, we apologize. We ran out of time today, but we hope to invite you to our next episode, which will be promoting collaboration and interaction.
Yes, that's a good one. I have a special guest in. Yes. I'm sure she'll be really excited. Carly. Yes. Okay, so we're going to play you out with the official brand new What's Your Problem theme song for the podcast. Thank you everyone. Please like and subscribe and share. However, people do that with podcasts, that's up to them. Find us on Patreon. We don't have a page. No? Oh my goodness. We should though. Yeah, and we'll donate to absolutely you guys an insider access to.
Oh yeah, I mean the scenes. We'll tell you where our offices are. You'll get our content first before everybody else else lines up. We do set that up someday. Yes. This is good. All right. Here it is. Wake up. Ocelots here. They're called Schoolcraft College. We stand tall. Distance learning problems rise. We're here to solve them in disguise. I can teach you hand in hand. Together we will take a stand. Navigate. The online maze. Will like the pamphlets. All right, ladies, what's your problem?
Tell us now. We'll find a way to show you how in this world, the to life will be your guide, your trusty site. Will be your guide. Your trusted side. Instructional designers unite. Bringing knowledge to the light. Technologist by our side. In solutions, we take pride from sun to tedious and more. We'll break down every door. No challenge to big or small. We tackle them. We solve them all. What's your problem? Tell us now. We'll find a way to show you how. In this world my screens collide.
We'll be your guide, your trusted site. Your trusted side. Your trusted side. What's your problem? Tell us now. We'll find a way to show you how. In this world war screens collide. We'll be your guide, your trusted side. That was good. Uh, dude, do we have an afternoon? Sir. That was aggressive. Do we? Yeah. This is like a bonus at the end of the credits. So are you going to chat about it now that it's done? Because I liked it?
Yeah, but the the will solve them all seem to. Seems like an aggressive offer. What's your problem? Tell us now. I liked it, but I was like I don't all like world peace. If we go all the way back to the beginning of the inception of the show, it was an aggressive name in the first place, but really it was like a gentle, like, we're here, we got it one after the next, bring them on. We're going to solve them all. So I think I think it's got the tone.
I like the bob. It was it made me feel like it needed a tick tock dance to go with it. You know, like it was that kind of vibe. Multimedia. I, I'm a millennial. I'm not about to do that. I don't have a ticket. No, I still am not adjusted to the vertical aspect of watching things. Some things I like on sideways, you know, but I'm I guess I'm just the geriatric millennial who can't buy things unless it's on my laptop. Um, you know, I don't like buying things on my phone.
I really, I need the I need the screen. That's interesting. See, I go, I go the other way. But that's an example of multimedia too, right? Because we're talking about different mediums of experience, whether it's the computer or mobile devices. The point is the song was good and the song was good. Multimedia education. It's a good thing. Mhm. And Carly Byrne next week everybody. And Carly Byrne and Mango. Special special guests are mango the cat.
Cats are not good podcast podcast's podcast guests say that cats are not good. Podcast cat. I don't know, my cat's very vocal. You know. Yeah. He's very chatty. Yeah. Cries at the top of a Chatty Cathy. We should have a full cat episode. You bring your cat. Oh, yeah. That would be. You know, it would be terrible. It would be terrible. But I would listen to it for about 30s and get a kick out of it. Yeah. All right. Yeah. So long everybody. What's your problem?
Tell us now. We'll find a way to show you how.