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LeBron James RETURNS to Lakers, Chiefs DESPERATE vs. Colts, Joe Burrow BACK IN ACTION? | Nick Wright

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Nick Wright reacts to LeBron James' return to the Los Angeles Lakers and how LeBron's role alongside Luka Doncic and Austin Reaves may be different than anything we've seen before. Next, Nick previews Week 12 of the NFL season, starting with Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce, and the Kansas City Chiefs hosting Daniel Jones and the Indianapolis Colts. Then, Nick debates whether or not the Cincinnati Bengals should bring back Joe Burrow with Cincy all but out of playoff contention. After, Nick discusses all the storylines surrounding the big games of the week, including Baker Mayfield's Tampa Bay Buccaneers heading to Los Angeles to play Matthew Stafford's Rams, and Josh Allen's Buffalo Bills playing in Houston against the Texans. Later, Nick answers your questions. #Volume

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Welcome in. We'll drive in the great episode three ninety four, once again going solo as Demonse is still on paternity leave and I actually next week, by the way, we'll have a couple shows before Thanksgiving, and then I will be out in Los Angeles as I will get to see Demonse and get to meet his new baby girl, Mila, which I could not be more excited for. This episode of What's Right with the Grid is presented to you by boost Mobile. We will get right to it straight.

The voicemail presented to you by our friends at boost Mobile. Michael Penix really really rough. Year two's for Michael Pinnix and for JJ McCarthy in particular. Pinis the worst of it as he, after an injury riddled college career, is undergoing season ending knee surgery. The NFL my play game in Paris in twenty twenty six would be sick and Aaron Rodgers planning to practice today despite having a broken

left wrist. Let me tell you, guys, as someone who had a broken left wrist not that long ago, seems impossible that one could play an NFL game with it. I'm very interested in how this plays out. Obviously, fractures are different. Everybody's body heals differently, but Aaron Rodgers doesn't seem super fond of getting hit as is. I can't imagine what it will be like if he's playing a game with a broken left wrist. Remindered everybody like rate,

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audio platforms, that's super helpful as well. So as I am inundated because Kevin Wilds is, so we're going to start talking about the Lakers and Lebron's debut, but a little inside baseball, if you will. To first things first, Kevin Wilds only wanted to discuss a potential of Anthony Davis trade if there was a possibility that Anthony Davis would be able to be traded back to the Lakers. And I told Wilds that was not possible, and it

was a dumb idea. And so he has now spent the last thirty minutes trying to create a fake trade, and he now has done it involving the Brooklyn Nets being a third team where they for some reason that I'm gonna have to ask Wilds to explain trade away multiple of their own first round picks so they can get a couple second rounders and Jared Vanderbilt in order to facilitate the Lakers getting Anthony Davis back. K W. I know you don't listen to the pod, but if somebody, oh, okay,

here we go. Then he then writes, I didn't create it, but you have to believe somebody else did for him. Okay, neither here nor there. Now to the actual show. kW stays a dufus forever Lebron's back, and I have a lot of takes. So no athlete in my lifetime has generated more idiotic and immediately self refuting opinions than Lebron.

And it's because I think it's because he's been for basically as long as daily sports television has existed, Lebron has been one of, if not the main character, and because he has played, you know, throughout the entirety of this medium and because he has been at the eye of the NBA storm, which while the NBA has never in his career been the country's most popular sport, but it has been at various times in his career the

country's most talked about. When it comes to sports debate and sports TV and sports talk radio, Lebron is the Lebron commentariot has spawned just some truly ridiculous and upon reflection, hilarious moments. And these are for me, friends and foes alike. I mean, we are twelve twelve. Is that right? No, it's not right. Thirteen years ago, my dear pal Dan Lebtard announced Lebron was on the downside and Miami had gotten the best of him. That was thirteen years ago.

And I'm going to talk about guys that I love and adore, so it doesn't seem like I'm trying to take cheap shots here. Famously, the owner and founder of this company, my mentor Colin, eight years ago said Lebron, hang it up whenever you want. We've got the NBA's got it from here. It was actually nine years ago, and that that's an all time clip a because Lebron would go on to win multiple championships after that, but b because he was saying that Ben Simmons is gonna

take over. I listen, Colin, I was as high on Ben Simmons as about anybody. I have to hold that l as well. And there, of course is all the skip stuff with the clutch, and then the latest steven A stuff with the real personal I don't like that guy so much of it just outright silliness. And then we got an unexpected dose of it in The Wee Leader in the week or so leading up to Lebron making his debut, which was, hey, will Lebron be able to fit in with the Lakers even though we saw

Luca and Lebron and Austin Reeves play together last year? Hey, will Lebron actually make the Lakers worse? Will he screw up what they have going on? These were real conversations, real discussions about the most malleable, most flexible as far as how he can help your team player in NBA history, about arguably the only guy in the history of the league that can legitimately and has literally made an All

NBA team at all five positions on the court. Check his Basketball Reference for that was an All NBA center one year for the Lakers and an All NBA point guard the year after that for the Lakers. Late stage, Lebron was an All NBA shooting guard as a young player early and then obviously All NBA small forward and

power forward throughout his career. That that guy that can play all five and certainly the younger version of him, and to a degree, the older version of him can guard all five, that that guy was gonna screw up a team. And then Lebron comes in keeps his double digit point streak alive, which is going to be a very fun and funny thing to watch this year because uh, it's obviously an untouchable record and we'll get more on the Lebron untouchable record stuff in a moment. But he

wants to keep it going. But he is, I believe, going to play a very different style this year. That game Tuesday night, that's the fewest shots he's ever taken

in a game he didn't leave with injury. And speaking of the double digit point streak, one of those games that he left with injury, because there's only been two games in his career he took fewer than seven shots, which is what he took Tuesday Night one, he didn't play the second half because he took an elbow from to Kim Big Matumbo, and one he left early when Solomon Hill fell into his ankle and derailed the Lakers

title defense the twenty twenty one season. But that game involves one of my favorite Lebron moments of all time, which is Solomon Hill falls into his ankle, Lebron recognizes he has suffered the first truly significant injury of his entire career up to that point and is going to be out months and is sitting at seven points and the streak is dead, And despite suffering an injury that is going to knock him out for the next two months, he pretends he's not hurt badly, stays in the game,

gets the ball, takes a corner, three hits, it keeps the double figure point streak alive, and then is out for the majority of the rest of the season. But that's sidebar Lebron being dropped in as a team's ultimate Swiss army knife and Lebron taking pride in that ability, and Lebron then saying after the game with a smile, Yeah, I heard what was being said. I've been a you know, you could put me on any team and I would

make it work. Is just obviously true. And people's you know, people say that about Kevin Durant all the time, like, oh, you just drop him in anywhere, And yes, that's true about other players, great players. You drop him in and they would make any team better. The distinction is can you drop a player in and can they instantly do at a high level the exact thing that team needs them to do. This Lakers team right now might need Lebron to be more facilitator, cutter, screener than scorer. Unlike

some of the other great players in this league. He has the skill set at forty in year twenty three to be excellent at all at anything. Now, is he the best player in the league anymore? Of course, not see a top five player in the league anymore. No, But is he still have a legitimate show at being right around top ten And is he, assuredly when he's healthy, still a top fifteen guy in the league. Yes, And that guy with that malleability helps any team in the

history of basketball. Now, is it all right? Now? A moot point for the whole NBA because of who and what OKC is maybe everybody might be playing for second this year, but we'll see things happen, and there's an element of, I don't want to say lack of appreciation, but numbness to what we are seeing at this moment. And this is something that you know I've said before, but I don't know that people like fully take it in. And especially because you know Steph is playing at such

a high level at an advanced age. Durant is playing at such a high level at an advanced age. But see whether you want to focus on the age forty part or the year twenty three part. The it being without precedent is such a wild understatement. Like Kobe Bryant, the late great Kobe Bryant. How old do you think Kobe was when he played in his final playoff game with the Lakers. I'm gonna give it a pause so you can actually think about it. How old was Kobe

in his final career playoff game? Are you shocked when I tell you the answer to that is thirty two. Kobe Bryant did not play in a playoff game with the Lakers after the age of thirty two. Like a little context to that, Lebron joined the Lakers when he was thirty four. So obviously Jordan stop with that was

done with the Bulls at thirty five, thirty six. Obviously, we've never seen a player play in a year twenty three, and the only one to get to a year twenty two was Vince It's I said this a couple of years ago and people laughed. I think we are now seeing it in real time. He'll simply never be bad and he could easily play at again, not an MVP level, but a high level throughout his forties barring again, barring a you're always at this age of a catastrophic injury away.

But he's ducked that up to this point in his career, and people can have the argument about the greatest player of all time that is going to age so well on my end and so poorly for so many other folks, because it is when it does come to And this isn't the whole discussion, but it is at least a

piece of it. The record books. With the way things are going right now as far as injuries, load management, guys not being able to make it through a full season, Lebron's longevity records are going to when people look back on him in forty years. It's going to be like if you look at complete games in baseball right now and you're like, wait, a guy had forty in one year. Like all of these games, minutes, points, the playoff records are going to be shame Mberlin esque, untouchable and farcical

in the numbers to future generations. And I'm very, very interested to see the full role Bron takes on with the Lakers, because in Game one of year twenty three, he was like, Okay, I'll be late stage Magic Johnson, and that's pretty damn good. There's one other Bron adjacent thing I wanted to talk about, and this is one of those things that I imagine will do well on social media or YouTube or and might cause me a little grief, but I I just I can't leave it unaddressed,

and I don't. I'm not trying to start anything, but this is so it was maddening when I heard it. So the greatest sports podcaster of all time, the guy who in some ways invented the medium, and a guy I like a lot, Bill Simmons brought the mail bag back,

which is awesome. It's vented Simmons. It's part of the reason that he's who he is and it's awesome, and because I'm a fan, I was listening and he gets asked about the biggest sliding doors moments in NBA history, and he goes to the Draymond Groin shot of Lebron in Game four of the twenty sixteen Finals, which is a legitimate sliding doors moment, There's no doubt about it. And he talks about how if the Warriors win that title, Durant can't go, you know, to Golden State. So then

who wins the next two? Does Lebron ever win in Cleveland? Does Lebron ever go to the Lakers? There's that is you know, what does it mean for Steph? Back to back championships? He and Lebron then at that moment would have been two to two. He would have had back to back league MVPs, including a unanimous there are it's Clay, He's Simmons talks about all of it, and he's correct

about that being a sliding doors moment. But there's two pieces of the commentary that are just one is enraging and it's not about Bill, and the other one is I he just must talk to very different NBA people than me, because what Bill said was the conspiracy theory that people believe more than any other conspiracy is that the NBA suspended Draymond because they wanted Cleveland to win

the title. And I've literally never heard that. Now, I certainly have heard the conspiracy that they suspended Draymond because they hoped the series would go longer than five. But the idea that in real time, anyone outside of the Calves locker room, me and Zach Lowe, we're all on the record during this, everyone's doing media. Nobody else when that suspension came down said oh, well, now I think

the Calves are going to win. That Warriors team was considered the greatest team of all time and had dominated the Calves through the first four games of that series. So the first point is the idea that it is widely thought in NBA circles that the Draymond suspension was going to lead to the Calves winning the championship. We were all there in real time that was not a thing. And then and then to the opinion piece of it, nothing is more maddening for me as a bron fan.

Then the fact that when that happened, and then the Calves win Game five by fifteen and Lebron scores forty one points. The entire media asserts that would have never happened if Draymond was there. The Calves winning by double digits and Lebron scoring forty plus never happened if Draymond's there. And then in Game six, when Draymond is there, Lebron scores forty one and the Calves win by fifteen points.

Game five of those finals, No, Draymond, Bron scores broncos I'll give you his exact stat line, just so we all are on the same page. Forty one, sixteen and seven on fifty five percent from the field, sixty three percent from three, and the Calves win by fifteen. So again, forty one sixteen to seven, fifty five sixty three splits, fifteen point win. Game six of the finals, Forty one eight eleven on sixty five seventy five splits and the Calves win by fourteen. Like, what are we talking about?

What are we talking about? Oh? Hold on, I gotta do that, because I'm sure I have to fix that. I have to fix that. I apologize I gave you the wrong field goal percentages. Let me do that again, because I want this to be accurate. I gave you so Game five of the Finals, No Draymond forty one sixteen and seven on fifty three fifty splits in a fifteen point win. Game six of the Finals with Draymond forty one, eight to eleven on fifty nine fifty splits

in a fourteen point win. It's just revisionist history. And it's the only other reason that's relevant to me right now is that game happened ten seasons ago and this guy's still playing. It's just a career that will never be even remotely approached. And it's if you're if you're listening to this right now and a sports fan of

this era. The fact that we got to experience Tom Brady going more than twenty years of elite in the mix every single year, ten Super Bowl appearances across multiple teams, while experiencing Lebron doing the exact same thing in the NBA, it's just unreal, just unreal. Today's show brought to you

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I expected. I thought they were going to give themselves a bit of a margin of error and be right back in the thick of the divisional race by beating the Broncos. That did not happen. And now, as we talked about on Tuesday, it's very very simple. Run the table and you might win the division. Amazingly you'll definitely make the playoffs. Go six and one and it would be very difficult to miss the playoffs, and you'll be super dangerous going into the postseason. Go five and two

and you're probably out. Go four and three and you're definitely out, and it's a true disaster of a year. That's where they're at. Okay, I am not going to be quite as chesty about my feelings and predictions for this game given what we saw last weekend. Now in the despite the Sauce Gardner trading, the fact that they might have Tavarious Wardback obviously does not have the defense that Denver has. This game, you know, is in Arrowhead, not on the road. There is no deforce Buckner, and

Daniel Jones has been shaky his last few appearances. All of that makes me feel as confident as I can given how I feel after that Denver game. Jonathan Taylor is a great, great player. The Chiefs tend not to get gashed by like they're pretty good at at least not shutting down but slowing down great backs. But Daniel Jones is better than bon Nicks, and bo Nicks carved the Chiefs up so and this is the Colts off

a bye. With all that said, as important as this game is for the Chiefs, it is greatly important for the Colts as well, because what the Colts all of a sudden have is seven straight games to end their season against teams fighting for their playoff lives to one

degree or another. So they're at the Chiefs. They then get the Texans, who will be on extra rest themselves after tonight's Bill's Texans game, and the Texans will either be six and five coming off their best win of the year, or five and six in a de facto playoff game. They then go to Jacksonville, then to Seattle, then home for the Niners, home for the Jags, and at the Texans. Really odd for the Colts that they've only played two divisional games up to this point in

the season. They're both against the Titans, so we haven't really seen well not really, we have not seen the Colts play the other two legitimate AFC South teams. So a loss here and things maybe get a little shaky for Indy. A win here and they're like, hey, why

can't we be the one seed? So I obviously like the Chiefs in this spot, but they have lost for the short term, the supreme confidence that they'd had that they would have had in this spot at any other moment of the Mahomes EUO and the inability to get off the field in third and long is the number one problem for me with the defense and offensively obviously, and I've talked about it. Patrick needs to be more precise,

particularly on the deep balls. But the biggest systemic issue with the offense right now is teams basically play the pass at all times against Kansas City, and Kansas City doesn't make him pay for it by running the ball. It's just that it's just the truth that the total lack of any threat of the under center run game has made it to where Patrick in the passing offense is up against really onerous defensive looks at all times that should be easy to run on, but they won't

run the ball. Now, maybe with Pacheco likely back, that changes, one would hope. I also got to acknowledge lou An Arumo, the former Bengals decoordinator who's now with the Colts, has cooked up some really good stuff against Patrick in his career. So that's the concerning pieces of it, the bright sides

of it. So to speak or this a week from now, they could be at seven and five a week from today, take care of business at home against the Colts, go to Dallas on Thanksgiving and they'd be seven and five with two games remaining against the Titans and the Raiders saying okay, there's nine and then we have a We have Houston, the Chargers, the Broncos, all in Kansas City. Win two out of three of our home games, and you become the most dangerous likely seven seed in the

history of the NFL playoffs. That's where we're at. But it has to start with a win against the Colts on Sunday, and it has to start with Patrick being better, Chris Jones being better, and the Chiefs ability to get off on the field on third and long being better. One of the other huge stories this week and is obviously Shadoor making the first start of his career in Vegas, Dylan Gabriel out with a concussion. Amazingly, he is the forty second person to start at quarterback for the Browns

since nineteen ninety nine. Just a remarkable number. I think in that same timeframe the Packers have had farv Rogers love Willis, I believe are the only four. Maybe there's like a Sean Manyon mixed in in there, but it's certainly not more than five, and I think it's just four. Sure, last week was terrible. You don't need to argue with people on the internet about why he was terrible. He was terrible. And it is not an overstatement to say this game right here is by a wide margin the

single biggest moment of Schador's football life. It is not an ideal circumstance. It is a somewhat ideal opponent, but it is what it is. And Schador does not have to be excellent in this game. But if he's awful, there's a world that exists where this is the only start he ever gets for any team. Because we know definitively no team, no team loved him coming out of school, nobody. There is not a player that teams love that is

available in the fifth round. So we know that. We also know that if people were concerned that through no both of Shador's own, he would there would be a lot of other stuff, media wise and nonsense social media stuff that other players are more importantly coaches on the team have to deal with. If you take him as a backup quarterback. Those concerns have been fully validated, and so does a world exist where if Shadoor is really bad on Sunday, he does not start again this year.

Kevin Stefanski is fired in Cleveland after this year. The new head coach comes in with multiple first round picks, takes his quarterback of the future, has Dylan Gabriel as the backup, and says, we are not dealing with more chatter surrounding our third string quarterback, and they cut it. And if that were to happen based on what teams thought about him going into the draft, do I think it's more than on the board. It's potentially likely that no team would sign up for that bringing in that

guy to be your third third string quarterback. I I could see that happening, and that would feel unfair. But there's plenty of guys that were fifth round picks in this league that got that. If they got a shot or two and it didn't go, well, it's just over. It's the NFL. And so I'm by the way, I'm not predicting that he'll be terrible. I think this is actually a pretty good spot for him in this game

against this opponent. I am predicting though, that if he's terrible, and he was terrible last week, that more likely than not this game is the only game he starts in his career. So as Marlow Stanfield would say, do it or don't, But I got places to be. The league's gonna keep moving. This is Shititor's moment. Now. The flip side is if he's excellent, then maybe he just keeps starting for Cleveland this year and you see if he can rekindle some of that Colorado magic. But if he's terrible,

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Thanksgiving would be crazy. But I'm good for him if he can do it. But I don't think he's gonna come back earlier than Thanksgiving and then play in a game four days later. But do I now think it's possible he comes back on Thanksgiving and then has ten days before their next game and tries to just obviously play the rest of the year. Yes, that's what I think is likely. I think he misses the Patriots game and his back for the Ravens game. Now, do I think that the Bengals that gives them a shot to

get back in it? No? Is that because I think the Steelers are about to run away with it? Nope, it's simply that I think that Bengals defense. I think the Bengals, had Joe Burrow not been hurt, they'd be in the mix for the playoffs, but they wouldn't have that much better of a record than they do right now at three and seven, because the problem hadn't been the offense. The problem's been the defense, which they never fixed.

This does, however, make me feel like the Ravens' chances of winning the division just went down significantly, because if Burrow comes back and they just go their first three games Baltimore, Buffalo, Baltimore. When you were looking at how the Ravens could win the division, a lot of the math was sweeping. Sinceyet that does get a lot harder, and now, all of a sudden, if you're Baltimore, you obviously have the Jets this weekend, that's a win or

should be. But then your final six games Sincy Pittsburgh, Sincy, New England, Green Bay, Pittsburgh. So four winning teams plus or four games against winning teams plus two against Joe Burrow. And if you're the Steelers, you're like, man, we duck Tim. Now they did lose one to Joe Flacco anyway, But still the other piece of this that if I were a Bengals fan, I wouldn't be able to I just couldn't get over is why did we have to blow the Jets game and the Bears game the way we did.

We lose thirty nine to thirty eight to the Jets, who we had, We had a fourteen point lead on the Jets in the fourth quarter and lost to the Ozho to seven Jets. And then the next week we had we were down fourteen at the two minute warning to the Bears and a minute later had a one point lead and then blew that one too. Had they won one of those and we're sitting at four and six,

they'd be alive. Had they won both of them and were sitting at five and five, they might be the co favorites in the division when Joe gets back based on the strength that offense alone. But they didn't and they blew it just the reality of the situation. So now they can just play spoiler and now Joe. Also, here's the other thing for Burrow, because I don't know if you know. Obviously last year he was unbelievable in losses. This year he played Week one against Cleveland, played really poorly,

they won seventeen sixteen because it's the Browns. And then week two he barely played in a game they ended up winning against the Jas. I just think for Joe it'll feel good to get back out there and play like Joe Burrow again and remind people how good he can be. I don't think that's going to be this weekend.

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to get started. Deliver available for select devices purchased at boostmobile dot Com. Terms do apply. My NFC Championship game pick from before the year. Buccaneers Rams, that is Sunday Night Football are flying the highest they have all year. The Bucks are flying the lowest they have all year. We will discuss that game much more during our Week twelve is it Wow Week twelve NFL gambling show tomorrow.

Real quick here, though, I do want to spend a couple of minutes on Bills Texans, because I I think this is a very important. Obviously, let me say something about the Texans. I do not believe the Texans are in the playoff mix. And I know that technically they've got the same record as the Chiefs. I get that. I think the fact that they are home for the Bills than at the Colts than at the Chiefs, and then still have a game left at the Chargers and

home for the Colts, I just don't think. I and given how awful their offense has been all year and that CJ is still not back, I just do not think Houston is going to be able to play anything but spoiler. The Bills, on the other hand, are still in the mix for the division, but also are just a loss tonight away from feeling like they are, you know, right back in the swirl of Hey, what the hell's going on? With games remaining at Pittsburgh home for the Bengals,

at the Patriots, and home for the Eagles. I have been encouraging Josh to be Josh. It's gonna make some mistakes, You'll take it because of the wild stuff tonight. Tonight is not a night you should need that. Tonight is a night that you should be able to win on the strength of James Cook and not turning the ball over. And so this is a good test of can Josh throttle We saw him last week throttle up? Can he

throttle down? That's what i'ma be watching for tonight. I expect the Bills to win, and I think the Texans only path is multiple Bills turnovers. So we'll see the thing throttle down tonight. Listener questions w asked, if you can flip the result of one lebron play or game, what would it be for me? It's finishing the dunk over Draymond in Game some of the twenty sixteen Finals. I mean, yes, that would be the lebron play that I would flip to be the greatest dunken NBA history.

The actual play I would change is Kyle Korver hitting the corner three in Game three of the twenty seventeen NBA Finals or George Hill making his free throw in what became the j R. Smith Game. Those would be the two that I would change. Danny asks if the Chiefs win all of their remaining games, could the Broncos loss become the loss that led to the loss that led to the the loss that led to Lombardi. That's

pretty good. I'll keep that in my back pocket. Q asked if the Chiefs missed the playoffs, wouldn't the Bills and Josh be under the most pressure by a country mile, No doubt about it. And we'll talk about if the Chiefs end up losing this weekend, we'll talk about what that does for the rest of the AFC playoff picture. But they're not gonna lose this weekend. Will they be one of my week twelve picks? Find that out on

tomorrow's show. Thank you to everybody like rate, subscribe, review, huge shout out to Volume in Blue Duck, and thank you of course to hard rock at boost Wayfair and the great people at Zen. Talk to you guys tomorrow for our week twelve picks

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