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Welcome. In episode one fifty nine, What's Right with Nick Wright? We have a new NBA champion for the first time in the history of their franchise. The Denver Nuggets are champions. Right as I say that, my monitor goes out. I assume we're still on the air. You guys will tell me. If not, maybe this is the basketball gods trying to torture me. Also new to the show a new sponsor, our friends at Starbucks. Today's episode brought to you by Starbucks.
Ready to drink coffee. Tune into moments that matter with the uplifting boots of Starbucks Mocha Frappuccino chilled coffee drink available now online or wherever you buy your groceries. So we have a ton to do today. As you may or may not be able to say, hey, I can see myself again. My daughter Diora, my co host for the last couple months, is not here today. She is doing graduation rehearsal for her graduation from high school, which
is on Thursday. So it is just me. But you know what, it's kind of perfect because we have a lot to discuss from last night, from the Finals as a whole, from my commentary on Niko lejokicch over the last few years and where he and this Nuggets team falls in NBA history, and of course, on the losing side of the coin playoff, Jimmy and heat culture fell just short. Once again. We will discuss all of that, But here's what missed the cup for today's show. DeAndre
Jordan winning a ring before Chris Paul. You know, I didn't even think about that, but that is true. Is this the closest Russell Wilson gets to a title in Denver? I would imagine that is true. And Trey Young saying he is next up? Well, I you know, maybe that's a trade demand. If it's not a trade demand, it's a laughably incorrect tweet. But let's get to the actual game now. The producers wrote today's show out as if I were going to have a co host to poke me and prod me and mock me, even though I
don't know that I deserve much mocking. By the way, congratulations to Daniel, producer, Daniel, his team won. More on that in the moment. I'm begrudgingly happy for you, Daniel. Well done. That is a nice sweatshirt. You guys want a title, you know what? Good for you. Now let's get to the show. So, as I mentioned, the Nuggets are champs and this script says Jokich is undeniably the best in the world. More on that in a moment.
Your Jokics take, My Jokic take is officially an l They say, did you have the producer to raise all your previous episodes. Yet here's the thing, guys, Niko Lejokic right now this moment is, without a doubt, one of the twenty five greatest players ever. Yesterday he was not. That's simply how this stuff works. And we will discuss what the top fifty would look like later in the show.
So in a weird way, because I am such a nerd to NBA history, I like the fact I don't like that I was wrong in picking Heat, but I like the fact that Jokic has a ring and a truly dominant start to finish, finish, playoff run because it makes those two MVPs that he won makes sense in a way that Steve Nashes never will, in a way that Russell Westbrook's won. And I know some people still defend that Ohie average a triple double. It didn't at
the time and it won't in history make sense. And we got to a spot that I felt we don't have to rehash it today that we were changing the rules in a way that favored Nikola Jokic in a way that I was uncomfortable with, but that knife cuts in both. It is now incumbent upon us, most notably the most ardent or vocal critics or skeptics of Jokic, to not then do the same thing to him, change the rules in a way that go against him. He
gets the exact same treatment Yanis did. When Yannis was a two time MVP with minimal deep playoff runs and then broke through, he instantly became the not universally but near universally accepted best player alive. And on top of that, he instantly vaulted into the top twenty five all time. I had him in the top fifty of the last fifty years. Now, Jo kicch is not the defender Yannis is, and I don't have Yokich ahead of Yiannis on the all time rankings, but he is now in that same neighborhood.
When your team goes sixteen and four in the postseason, when you go eight to one in the conference finals and NBA Finals, and you do it by averaging a thirty thirteen to nine, he was eight total, no, ten total assists, ten total away from averaging a triple double, a thirty point triple double for the postseason, and you do it on fifty five forty six split. It's you get all the flowers. You have answered all the questions.
I'm not into step skipping, and I really wasn't into giving a six seed an MVP, much less a second straight MVP. But it all kind of evens out, I suppose, because while if my vote was the only vote that counted, Jokich would have one MVP right now. You can very easily justify his first one to me far more than his second one. And if he had only had one and hadn't won last year or last year was his first, this year he would have won it, and he would
have two. So maybe in that way he has the right number of MVP and now has had the right amount of postseason success. There are no holes to poke, And I understand that there is going to be a kind of smug media cohort that is going to today if they have not already say yeah, some of us didn't need to see him win a championship. Well some of us did, and I don't think that is a flawed way of looking at things. Playoff basketball is different
than regular season basketball. If it weren't, James Harden would be one of the ten greatest players in the history of the sport. And Harden, I think is a good player to bring up because if you simply skipped the steps with Harden and said, oh, you see what he does in the regular season, you see him get to a conference finals with an overmatch team. You see he
loses in the postseason. If we go years back, I'm talking about those first few years in Houston, he loses in the postseason to teams that are markedly better than him. Why can't we call him the best player in the world. Why can't we call him one of the twenty greatest players ever? The answer then would have been proven out correctly. Well, because until you see a guy do it in the playoffs on a not a two round run, but a four round run, and you don't always have to win
that fourth round. You don't always have to win the finals to prove it to us. Durant didn't win his first finals, but he proved it to us. Lebron didn't win his first two finals, but Lebron had proven it to us. Once you see it, you know, we've now seen it undeniably with Jokic, and I feel like even if the Heat had won this series now would he be one of the twenty five greatest ever? No, but
he would have answered all the questions. His biggest liability is his defense, and defensively, I thought he was pretty damn good these last couple rounds. He did not wear down.
He averaged forty minutes a game this postseason. He went through Durant, He went through Durant and Booker, Lebron and AD and then a Heat team that folks are now going to try to once again confirm their preconceived notions of disregarding the fact that this Heat team dispatched of Milwaukee in five and was up three to zero on Boston. This is a great championship, Nikola Jokicz just won, and I understand folks would be like, I'd be an eight seed, a four seed to seventh seed, and an eight seed
that's bull. He beat Katie and Booker, Lebron and AD and then the team that leads the NBA in playoff victories over the last four years, a team that was in the finals three years prior and in the Game seven of the Conference finals. Last year, they beat worthy opponents and they didn't just beat them, they dominated him. The Nuggets, it's a weird spot because they didn't really have all that many close games this postseason. In the first round they won by twenty nine nine nine, lost
in overtime, closed them out by three. They beat the Suns by eighteen and ten, then lost two, then won by sixteen and twenty five. The Laker games, all four of them were That was their one series where they
were all close games, but they won them all. All those games were in the balance at the end, and the Nuggets, most notably Jokic and Jamal Murray, made the plays they had to make, and they beat Miami in their four wins by nine, fifteen, thirteen, And then last night was a hell of a game and it did feel like Miami was gonna steal it at the end. They won last night by five, and it was actually closer than that. This is a great championship. It's a
great championship. And this is where if I may be self focused for a moment, folks ask me and have asked me during this playoff run. Oh, Nick, it is brutal for you see what people are saying about you on Twitter, the old clips that are going around. Does
it bother you? And it The only thing that bothers me is if an old clip from eighteen months ago is being positioned as if it was said eighteen days ago, that I think is a little unfair, like the you have clips of what I was saying about Jokic when we were back doing this from my house and it's being positioned like I was saying it during this playoff run. That's a little fake Newsy. But other than that, none
of it bothers me. And it's because I know the standard that I hold all great NBA or potentially great NBA players too. And one of two things is going to happen with the guys i'm skeptical of. Either I am going to be proven right or they are going to clear those hurdles, and I will, without any hesitation, give them all the credit that they have earned. I'm just not into microwaving it. With the exception, of course, of Luca. Dontitude is as you guys, my large adult
Slovenian son. Sorry, blood's thicker than water. I'm gonna always have a special place in my heart for him. Now. The one thing I said more on in a moment that we didn't get to yet was Jokich undeniably the best player in the world. He gets to hold the crown and the belt, he gets to fairly be called that. But much like and I disagreed with these people when Yannis won his title and I said he's clearly the best player in the world, some people were like, yeah,
I I still think Durance better. If I were hooked up to a polygraph and I were asked if I had the number one pick of the draft, every player is a free agent. Who am I taking me? Personally, I'm probably not. Probably I'm still taking Yanni's first. I am jo Kich would be second. But that's just my own personal It's close enough that I totally understand the
alternative argument. Totally understand it. And if people call them the best player in the world, as I think they will, they have a lot of evidence on their side, a lot of evidence, and that's what they've earned. And it is a great championship. Man. And well, we'll talk Jamal Murray when we get into the dynasty stuff. Some of the other questions on this the producer has written, where is this rank in terms of all time championship runs?
I I don't have that. I've never made that list the like you know, there are some that certainly stick out to me. Dirk's in twenty eleven, it's pretty damn great. Uh. I think Lebron's in twenty twelve, the last two rounds of it, beating the Big Three in Boston, then beating Katie,
Russ and Harden's pretty great. I was just doing contemporary ones, the Warriors in eighteen beating the sixty five win Rockets and then but the No in eighteen that cavsine was terrible except for Lebron, So in contemporary NBA history it's pretty damn good man, and going through who they went through. A sneaky good one is is and it looks better now, maybe now than ever. A sneaky good one was the
Lakers in the Bubble. Round one against Dame, Round two against Russ and Harden, Round three against Joker and Murray, Round four against the Heat. That's like a sneaky, really good one. But a lot of how we view how heavy of a load Jokic carried in this is going to be how we end up viewing Jamal Murray and we'll talk about that when we get to the Dynasty stuff. Now to the other side of it, the producers, right, for all the talk about playoff Jimmy disappeared when the
heat needed him most. Was all the Jimmy bucket type unjustified. That's the that's so dumb, Sorry producers, guys. Did Jimmy Butler have a disappointing finals? He did? To Jimmy Butler, did this Jimmy Butler finals remind you of anyone's finals an undeniably great player. And if you're like, yeah, Lebron and eleven, no, no, no, no, no, that Lebron and eleven had an objectively bad series, Jimmy, these finals averaged twenty two five and six on forty one from the field thirty
seven from three. Twenty two five six, forty one thirty seven. In twenty sixteen, Stephen Curry in those finals averaged twenty three five four on forty percent from the field forty percent from three, so one more point, the same rebounds too, fewer assists, field goal percentage one point less, three point percentage three points more. It was not a great finals. It was not a disastrous debacle of a finals and the idea that we are going to This is one
of the things that I hate. I hated when it happened to Lebron, I hate when it happened to I'll pick out some of my favorite guys Mahomes in twenty twenty. I hate when it happens really to anybody who gets penalized or more criticized for coming up a little short in the final round. Then someone gets criticized that was beaten along the way to the final round. The people today on the pre show call for First Things First, they were like, do is Jimmy still deserved to be
in Club Superstar? And I almost ended the zoom call, like what are we talking about? So you're not kicking Jason Tatum out of Club Superstar who had his lunch eaten by Jimmy in the previous round and that's why he didn't get to play in the finals. But now we're gonna kill Jimmy because in the finals he wasn't great,
And don't get me wrong, he wasn't great. Now last night he was really bad until the end when it looked like he was going to have a vintage playoff Jimmy moment with the threes and the free throws and getting them back, and then he had two really rough plays down the stretch. But this is where I think an interesting thing sports media does, and I gotta say I actually kind of agree with it, is we criticize
more harshly. Two guys can have the same level of performance and receive very disparate amounts of criticism based on how close that performance was to what we think their peak performance is. Meaning a player with slightly less talent or natural ability gets more of a pass than a player with immense amounts of natural ability that can't seem
to rise in the biggest moments. And so there will be guys like Tracy McGrady who probably get a little unfairly maligned by history because those of us that watched him new at his best he had an argument wasn't a strong argument, but an argument that he was the best player in the entire sport. Conversely, a guy I'm trying to think of an example that's not Jimmy Butler, but a guy whose overall talent level is not nearly that player's level, who seems to consistently be getting the
most out of it. We have massive admiration for those guys. And Bruce said this on TV yesterday and I'd never heard it put like this, and I think he's right that Jimmy's single best trait is his competitiveness. That that's what he is top three in the world at just raw competitiveness. And it did seem like he ran out of gas a bit. He didn't seem anywhere close to Joker when it came to best player on the court.
And honestly, that's probably okay. And this is where even though I again I picked the heat, so I probably should have seen this part coming, but this is where it is worthwhile reminding people that if you don't have one of the twenty five greatest players in the history of the sport, or just let's just go the last fifty years, if you don't have one of the twenty best of the last fifty years, you're not winning a
title unless you were on the four Pistons. If we can go from nineteen eighty to now, and it's like, who did the champions have, well, the entirety of the eighties, the champions were Kareem slash Magic Bird, Moses slash Doctor Jay, Isaiah. Those are all top twenty of the last fifty years, the nineties, Michael Jordan, Akeem Tim Duncan, check check check the two thousands, Shack slash Kobe, the four Pistons, d Wade slash Shack. I'm not gonna do this in exact order,
but you guys are gonna follow me, of course. Duncan a bunch of times, Dirk Novitzky, Kevin Garnett, who is right there along with Paul Pierce and Ray Allen who are not but Kevin Garnett, Lebron, James, Steph Curry, Duncan, Somemore or Duncan again. Kawhi Leonard would be the other. Yeah, but he's not top twenty of the last fifty years. But he's a unique case because he was certainly trending
towards that and his body betrayed him. And Giannis and Lebron again, and Steph again, and Durant with Steph and now Jokic, who's in there. Jimmy Butler's are not the best player on Champions typically, and they should not be crushed for that. It is a very unique thing that in the NBA post the seventies, essentially since the NBA ABA merger from nineteen eighty to now. The worst player who was the best player on a champion it is And again this is not an insult, but it is
Chauncey and then Kawhi and then KG and Dirk. Those are the worst guys who were the best guys on a champion. Think about that, honestly. And so I don't think we should be in the business today of crushing Jimmy Butler. I think that'd be ridiculous, all right. Next, Jamal Murray said that this title would be the first of many. Are we witnessing the beginning of the next NBA dynasty? And if not, who's standing in their way?
So I want to pump the brakes on dynasty talk for now because there are a few things standing in their way. But before I get to that, where I do want to give the Nuggets credit and their front office credit, is they made a let's try to get a final piece of the puzzle trade in Michael I'm sorry and Aaron Gordon, and they got it. He was great for them. They made some very savvy pickups in
KCP and Bruce Brown, and they built a champion. There are two things and they just made a trade recently, understanding that due to the new CBA they're not going to be able to be big free agent spenders. They grabbed another first round pick because they want cost certainty, they want young, cheap players. That's very smart. There are two things that would concern me if I were a Nuggets fan about could this be a dynasty? The first one is obvious, what do you have in Michael Porter Junior?
Because I know what you have in his contract? Well, you have in his contract is four more years? Sorry, let me take a sip of this delicious Starbucks new sponsor of the show. What you have is another four years? And how much is it? Another one hundred and fifty million? Right? So four years one fifty left for Michael Porter Junie. That's a swallow, hardened hope situation. But the other question, and the biggest question too, can this team be a dynasty?
Is not about Nikola Jokic. It is about Jamal Murray. How good is your second guy? Because if we are being honest, Klay Thompson, as great as he was pre injuries, was not good enough to be the second best guy on a dynasty. Was the second best guy own a champion, and it looked like he could be the second best guy on a dynasty, and you had Draymond Green there and they needed to go get Kevin Durant. Now, is Jamal Murray good enough to be the second best guy
on a team that wins another title? I think on equivocally, Joe Dumars was there's a lot, you know, we can find that a team didn't really have a second best guy on the first team, on the second team at Clyde, but a dynasty you need Jamal to take a significant leap. And everybody, we do this weird thing where certain guys go from wildly underrated to a touch overrated without ever
being properly rated. And I do fear that that is about to happen with Jamal Murray, because folks are gonna be throwing around the term superstar pretty liberally, and I just I think we are a couple leaps away from that for Jamal, unless you think this league's got twenty superstars. But unquestionably, I'm just looking at my club superstar right now. Guys who are currently better than Jamal. Yeah, I just
this is not in order, but it's just guys. Ad Jannis bron Dame Luca, Jimmy Tatum, Booker Durant, Steph Embiid Jokic, assuming he gets back on the court. Jah I think Donovan's better than him. I think Sga is better than him. Dearon Fox, it's at least a discussion Anthony Edwards. Certainly next year it's a discussion. I didn't mention Kawhi because we don't know how much he's gonna play. So now we're at seventeen eighteen guys. Jamal has turned himself into
a star and a fringe top twenty player. I think he's a better player than Trey Young. I think he is a better player than Karl Anthony Towns. I think he's a better player at this point of his career after all the injuries to than Paul George. Certainly better than Bradley Beal. But if we're you're talking dynasty, he needs to take one more leap. I'm not saying he can't, but dynasty is a very And again I went over the the list of champions over the last forty years.
If we do all the dynasties or semi dynasties in history, you have Russell Celtics you had Bill Russell, one of the five greatest players of all time, along with you know, a different collection of four or five other Hall of famers. You had the Lakers in the eighties that had the second and the fourth greatest players ever in Kareem and Magic, and even though Kareem near the end of that was on the downslope. And then you also had another Hall
of Famer in James Worthy. Bird Celtics were not a dynasty. They won three total titles and never won back to back. Isaiah's Pistons were not a dynasty. Jordan's Bulls obviously were. You have the third greatest player ever, plus another no doubt Hall of famer could be the best player on a really good team, as he proved not a champion, but a really good team the very next year in
Scottie Pippen. And then for the last three championships you added another no doubt Hall of famer and Dennis Robmin, who for the first two of those three championship was a great player and maybe the greatest coach ever. Shaq and Kobe's dynasty. You had Shaq and Kobe. Duncan's a weird one because it was it was a great run, but not necessarily a specific dynasty. With the first championship
you had David Robinson that was still really good. Second championship kind of Duncan on his own, and then the next two you have Man who and Tony who are great players. Is your second best guy not really good enough to be the second best guy on most champions but your third best guy way better than most other teams. Third best guy plus the coach. And then the last one. Seven years after the fourth you add Kawhi Leonard to that young Kawhi Leonard, but still Kawhi Leonard. The Heat
didn't really have a dynasty. They went to four championship. Do you have lebron and wait, and of course Chris Bosh is your third guy. Dynasty can't be throwing around dynasty that easily, guys. So I'd pump the brakes on that, but I would set if you set the over under on Joker career titles at one and a half, at this point, I would take the over. I think he
gets one more. The other thing that hurts him in that regard is the late blooming, which was similar to Yannis like not amazing players right when they came in the league. They had to grow. But that right there is the most interesting and exciting to me NBA story of the next half decade. Joker and Yannis, a fight to be the apex predator of the league. Joker and Yannis. They both have two MVPs, they both have one title, they both have one all time playoff run. They both
have one finals MVP. Jokers twenty eight, Yannis is twenty eight. Two twenty eight year olds in their prime. Go get it. That should be the rivalry of the next half decade. And then we see, you know, can Booker and Durant put a run together over the next couple of years? Can Luca get the right people around him? Does lebron an ad have one more run in them? That's out west and out east? Will Embiede ever have a run like this? So not looking like it. Can't close the
door on it, though Tatum and Brown did. They kind of reach their ceiling. So and then there is the looming cloud of what will Victor Windbinyama actually be. So I'll fade the dynasty, but I'll buy another championship, all right, last one before we take a break, Nick, you left, yo, get you off your top fifty all time. That didn't age well. Where does he rank now? All right? When I did the fifty best of the last fifty years, Joker had won one league MVP ever, Okay had one
playoff run to the conference finals. That was it. It was totally legitimate at the time to not have him in the top fifty. Now where would he slot in? So let's look at my top twenty five? I mean, so number twenty eight. I know I said twenty five, number twenty eight to Centa, though Patrick Ewing Joker obviously is ahead of him. I just want to check Jokers. So Joker's got three first team All NBAS, two second team All NBAS, obviously a two time MVP. I'm gonna
have to try to keep this in my head. He's a two time MVP and how many I'm just trying to look up the things that I wait a lot. And he's got two other top five MVP finishes. He has a fourth and twenty nineteen and obviously a second this year. All right, So three first teams, two second teams, two MVPs, a finals MVP, and two other MVP top fives. Okay, so number twenty five in the last fifty years I
had Harden. He's obviously ahead of Harden. Number twenty four I had stocked in Stockton, had's two first teams, six second teams, zero top five MVP finishes, but his all time counting stats are bananas. He's obviously had a Stockton. Number twenty three of the last fifty years I had David Robinson. He has four first teams, two second teams, one League MVP, two seconds and two thirds, and a Defensive Player of the Year. He obviously also has two titles,
one of which he was really good on. I think he's better than David Robinson. Number twenty two is Kevin Garnett. Four first teams, three second teams, one MVP, two seconds, five top five finishes. I think he's better than Kevin Garnett. Garnett we don't talk about it much, but Garnett had some real playoff struggles, and it wasn't justin Minnesota. He was not a guy you could give the ball to
and just you knew he was gonna come. Three great defensive player all time defensive player Number twenty one's Chris Paul. He's now better than Chris Paul. It just is. That's what a championship does for you. Number twenty was a projection. If you remember I had Luca, you got to obviously have him ahead of Luca. Number nineteen I had was d w eight. I do not think he's better than d Waight yet, So right now, he would be for me the twentieth best of the last fifty years. And
how many guys in all of NBA history would that leave? Obviously, Will, Russell and West would be the three super old timers I'd have ahead of him. I'd have him ahead of Oscar an Elgin and Mike and Impetitor. Just too hard. It's just too hard. You got to give credit for what they did, but come on. So that's where it would be for me. He would be the twentieth best
of the last fifty years. The guys still to catch would be d Wade, Berkley, Karl Malone, and Karl Malone's a very unique one because his regular season resume is that of a top four player of all time and his postseason resume is not great. Two finals appearances. Is the best player but didn't really come through huge. But he also was a two time MVP, nine Top fives, eleven time first team all NBA third most points of all time. I have Dirk still out of him. Dirk,
oddly is very underrated by some people. I don't quite get it Isaiah Thomas, who is wildly underrated by people, but they're just wrong. I just won't even engage them on it. And then Giannis, Durant, Moses, Doctor j Steph Shack, dream Bird, and we're getting a really hollowed ground. So my guess is Joker ends up somewhere in that top five fifteen of the last fifty and with a chance to crack the top twelve. The problem there is for any of these guys is Durant is still playing. He
could climb, even though it's not likely. And Giannis is still playing, and I think he will climb. It's gonna be very interesting to see who climbs higher, Joker or Yannis. But that's where we are, and that's what a championship does for you. So here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna take a very quick break, We're gonna come back. We're going to do a lightening round B block, and then I will try to spend some real time on
your guys questions before I go to TV Today. But that was a forty minute, forty five minute opening segment paying tribute because we now have It's always exciting when the All Time Greats Club. Oh you know what, let's just stay here for a second. That's a fun exercise, the All Time Greats Club, when guys got admitted. Maybe I should do this on TV Today, Dusty, if you're watching from the first thing's first studio, text the show, but also like jot this down like all Time Greats
date of admittance. I that's not Dusty texting me. I wish it were, though hopefully he's watching. So Nikola Jokic guy in the club in twenty twenty three. He is the latest guy in there, the most recent guy. I should say. No one was admitted last year. Jannis got in. In twenty twenty one, no one was admitted. Kawhi looked like he was getting in, but no one got in in twenty nineteen. In twenty seventeen, Kevin Durant got in. In twenty fifteen, Steph Curry got in and twenty twelve,
Lebron James got in. In twenty eleven, Dirk got in. In two thousand and three, Duncan got in. In two thousand and one, Shaq and Kobe both got in, and that's it. Those are the only guys all time. Oh you know what I in twenty eleven, their twenty twelve pardon me, it was Lebron and d Wade who got in. D Wade already had a ring, but he wasn't to that level yet. They both got in there, and that's it. I mean, of the last twenty years, those are the all time greats. And when they got in, Joker welcome
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and Joker's the newest guy in. It's like the Heisman House, except there's not a car dealership sponsoring it all right. By the way, speaking of sponsorships, I'm not gonna you know, I didn't say on the air what type of car I was buying. I didn't end up buying it. I texted it privately to Matt. But what I will say is to well, you know what I shouldn't name car. I'm I don't know what I should do. We should have a car dealership sponsor, Matt, you know the car
that I bought. See if that helps us get a car dealership sponsor. Okay, before we get to your questions rapid fire b block because I also have to do Colin Coward Show today, not not hosting, but go on with him. Sakuon Barkley not happy with a franchise tag. Uh, you even seemed to entertain the idea, at least temporarily, of holding out for the season. It's not really holding out, just refusing to sign the tag. Here's my advice for the Giants right now, he's tagged one year, just under
eleven million bucks. He doesn't want to play on that. The Giants don't want to commit big money to a running back. I get it. He has said he doesn't need to reset the marketplace. What if you go to him with a contract offer of three years forty five million dollars. I sat on TV yesterday twenty million guaranteed. Let's up that to twenty two and a half million. Pardon me, twenty two and a half million guaranteed. So you tell Saquon listen, here's the deal. You will be
paid like a top three running back. We will more than double the guaranteed money that you had on the franchise tag. It's fifteen million a year each to the next three and if something terrible happens this year, you still get all of this year's money and half of next year's money. If you're awesome this year, then you're gonna get all of this year's money and all of next year's money, and if you're awesome the next two years, you're gonna get the full forty five million. If you're
the Giants in a Vacuum or on Madden. I understand why committing even that type of money to a running back, especially you're a running back who's had some injury concerns, does not typically make sense. But this is where the human being component has to matter. You are trying to build on the momentum of last season and build a new culture in that organization. Saquan is the most popular and the most talented player in that locker room. It
has massive negative downstream effects if you alienate him. So, just like guys end up having to take a haircut because teams don't want to deal with them in the locker room. Great guys and great leaders, you gotta pay a premium for Saquan. Is that that's what I would do? Uh?
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Time? For a game this or that Aaron Gordon was kicked in the groin, but got called for a shooting fellow Jimmy Butler. The NBA is rigged or fair? All right? With the NBA is obviously not rigged. I don't know what's fair or what's not. But here's what I do know. I absolutely thought that call was going to stand. I like Van Gundy and Jackson. I know Demons disagreed with me on it, and we can show his tweet if
we want, uh. The Daniel tweeted Demonse waiting for Demonze to tweet where he says the reps are making about themselves, and Demonte said that would be giving them the attention they are seeking. I won't do it. Well done, Son. Here's the thing Jimmy did not do on that play a wild kicking motion. His leg did extend, but it was at least semi reasonable, and Gordon ran through him.
Now do I think that's a foul? No? Do I think it is close enough to being a foul that once they call it a foul on the floor, they're not going to overturn it exactly. So I wasn't shocked by that. I also don't think it was a bad challenge. It was late enough in the game and a critical enough moment it's worth the risk. But I did not think it was a clear cut, obvious this is getting overturned.
I just didn't Next the rumors are swirling that if Houston misses out on hard and they could be interested in Kyrie, this would be a bad idea or the worst idea. It makes no sense. Kyrie to Houston. I have talked about, and I think other people have as well, that an interesting possible free agent destination for Chris Paul if he is released is san Antonio. Like, try to build a winning culture instantly for Wimbin Yama and get him, you know, a player who's gonna set him up and
all that stuff. That's just like Kyrie to Houston, except the exact opposite. You have all these young, impressionable players. I wouldn't if I were the Rockets. I honestly, I don't know if there's a player in the league that I'd be less interested in than Kyrie. And they can't win with or without him next year. Aaron Rodgers got the last six weeks and most fun he's had in a while. He's been on good behavior for speciously long time. Rogers will get through the offseason without an incident or
with an incident. I think without an incident. Not only Rogers has a lot of major incidents. I just think he's a pain in the ass, but I think you'll get through it without an incident. Novak Djokovic when I was twenty third Grand Slam with the friend Joping this weekend, the best Serbian athlete right now is Djokovic or Joker. The best right now is Jovich. The best of all time is Djokovic, as he now is the most Grand slams ever, and some people would argue he is the
greatest tennis player of all time. I probably unfairly have him as the third best. I know that's not fair. I know I can't really fully justify it. I just like nadolmore and I still think Federer is the best I've ever seen. Uh. Also, I was on all cores and I was very upset after his visit to Tennessee when great DeAndre Hopkins is gonna be heading to the Patriots better fit Titans are Patriots neither, But if you got to pick one, go with the Titans. But the
answer is neither. And lastly, I was Nick, you were so close to winning the Belmont Stakes along with your daughter Diana and her best friend Carras. Forte screwed me, though I basically made a bet that I would have won the Exacta, the Trifecta, and the Superfecta. All I needed. What I here was I will admit it was not the soundest gambling strategy ever, but here's what I did. There were nine horses in the race. There were three fifteen to one or longer shots. I eliminated those three,
and then there was the favorite, Forte. I eliminated him too, And then I took horses two through six and put them in everything and boxed them in everything. And so what I needed was none of the long shots nor Forte to finish in the top two, and I would have won a little. If none of the long shots nor Forte finished in the top three, I would have won a lot. If none of the long shots nor Forte finished in the top four, it would now be
called the What's Right Stakes. I think I would have owned the track, and it was all looking good until the stretch run when Forte came from fifth. Then he got to fourth, and I'm like, okay. The Superfecta was because my other horses were all there. My other horse is finished first, third, fourth, fifth, sixth I think, or first, third, fourth and fifth. But then Forte makes a really late kick and I'm like, oh, the trifecta is dead, but I'm gonna hit the exactes so I'm gonna be okay.
And then literally at the wire, Forte puts his damn nose down and there is like all they put up on the screen is that Arcangelo won the race and then they say photo for second third And it took like five minutes and fourt a one and so I lost. The shame of it is and this is a true story. This man who really looked like he knew something and I should have just I'm so mad at myself. This
is such a terrible job by me. This man walks up to me and I'm with my daughter and her best friend, the nine year old and her best friend. Before the race, says, Hi, shakes my hand, old, I think he's Italian guy. He then comes back like twenty minutes later with two twenty dollars tickets in his hand and he said, like, pulls me in close. He's like, Archangelo's got this. I bought a ticket for your two daughters. He thought they were both my daughter's fine. I'm like yeah,
he's like yeah, he's seven to one. He's winning. And somehow I didn't recognize that as the sign from the gambling gods that it was that I should have just put all my money on Arcangelo, who won the race easily. And the only winners of that race were my two daughters, or sorry, my daughter and our best friend, who both had a twenty they're nine years old, had a twenty dollars seven to one ticket. They got paid out. And so the questionnaire is teaching Diana about the wars. Is
a good idea or the best idea? It's the best idea. They had a wonderful time. They can't wait to go back. We answer your questions next, What's Right?
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All right, welcome back in episode one fifty nine. What's right? We think right? The Nuggets are champions. I answer your questions. Now, Pat's nation Nick, Now that Nikola Jokicic has a title. Outside of EMBIID, who do you think is the most pressure to win a ring? So if we're talking about guys who have never won one, Embiid's obviously at the top, Harden is still very high. There will unfairly but sneakily
be some added pressure on Luca. I wonder if if Jimmy, you know what, none of those are the right answer. It's Tatum. He's been to a finals, he's been first seam all NBA back to back years, been a top five MVP guy. I think the ship has probably sailed on hard and outside of EMBIID, I think it's Tatum next. Mister Brownstone says Can Denver's offensive system point center supplant
the need for a second great player in your dynasty argument. No, not I don't believe so not to be a dynasty, because the other thing is teams in the West in particular are going to adjust, and they're going to adjust by just while there's been an emphasis on wings and three and d guys, there is now if you are a Western Conference team trying to win a title, you are going to spend a couple roster spots on seven
footers just to spend thousand minutes up. So no, I still think to be a dynasty, I still think you need the second start. Jake Fisher says, do you think the successive Giannis and Jovis will cause other teams to be more patient with high upside young players? They should be. Now, those guys are special all timers, but yes, they should be. Vkc Asks or vic cs. Was this Jimmy's best chance? What do you think pat Riley is cooking something up? Oddly?
I think last year might have been his best chance. I think they could have beaten the Warriors, but they didn't get there. As far as pat Riley cooking something up, He's always cooking something up. I do wonder if that's where Kyrie goes. I'm not saying that's where he goes, but I wonder if that's on the board. Nathan Berger says, thoughts on Christian Brown winning three high school state titles, an NCAA title, and now the NBA Finals. I was
one of his high school teammates from Kansas. We'll shout out to you, Nathan Berger, who you also it would appear are a state champion. I think it's great, and I do think he's a winning player. He's obviously never gonna be a great player, but he's a winning player and a hard nosed, tough player. I like him. Alex asked at graduation, will do yours? Principal caller Diora, what's right? No, it would have made me prouder than you could imagine, but she opted against it. All right, fun show, I
gotta run, I gotta get to work. I'll see you, by the way, No show Thursday. My daughter's graduating. I'll see you guys on Tuesday. What's right,