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get into all of that. But first what missed the cut on today's show, Kawhi Leonard, Listen, whenever a guy shows you you can stay healthy for three months, you gotta triple down with a three or one hundred and fifty three million dollar extension. That's not in the show. Victor windbin Yama records his first career triple double. That's on the show. And some stupid tweet comparing two quarterbacks that is beneath us and beneath the show and does

not need to Jesus Man. Trevor Lawrence mac Jones get out of NFL on CBS saw that their Trevor Lawrence Daniel Jones tweet did so well, so they doubled down with him Daniel Trevor Lawrence mac Jones tweet. So before we get to be and Hi, Demanse look great. Love the sweater. I I'm not gonna because of the news and because of everything, I'm not gonna get into the Aaron Rodgers thing today. The Belichick news is more noteworthy. And listen, he did exactly what we said last week

we thought he would do. Who me what? Huh? No? Never uh? How could you believe it? And the and if you want to hear my full deeper thoughts on that, not to promote a different podcast on this podcast, but I joined Ethan Strauss last night for an hour on his house of Strauss's new YouTube page.

But Bill Belichick in nineteen ninety nine was named the head coach of the New York Jets, and at what was supposed to be his introductory press conference, jotted down on a napkin, I resign and his introductory press conference, He's like, actually not taking the job. And I went back and then, yeah, Demonse knows nothing of this story. And the reason I went back and watched it, and the Patriots then traded for him to be their head

coach and they went on. The reason I went back and watched it was because that was the last time Bill Belichick spoke representing in other than the Patriots. It's been a quarter century of him doing these press conferences in front of Patriot logos, in front of Patriot stuff as a Patriot head coach, and after today's farewell press conference, the next time he speaks will be with another team.

And one part of that jumped out to me, which is during that press conference he says, listen, I'm gonna take the rest of today to spend time with my family, but tomorrow I'll do all the interviews you guys want. He's like, if you give me today and don't inundate me with it, tomorrow, I'll be as available as you want, because I know you're gonna have a lot of questions. And he's like, so that means newspaper, TV, radio, and

then pause for a moment and says internet. And the assembled press laughs and they laughed because it's like, oh, talking about the Internet. You're gonna do interviews with the Internet. And it was such like a silly throwaway thing, and I was like, God, dogget man. Belichick's career with the Patriots spanned the time to wear the Internet was thought of as a throwaway whatever to where we are today.

The entire growth and breadth and change of the media landscape in reference to the Internet happened while Bill Belichick coached the Patriots. So that's one hell of a run, one hell of a career. And the other thing that I thought about today was we have the greatest football coach ever in Belichick and one of the best coaches of the modern era in Pete Carroll, both being forced out essentially from their jobs within twenty four hours of each other. And the symmetries are not just that Bill

Belichick succeeded Pete Carroll in New England. Pete Carroll was the last Patriots head coach before Bill Belichick. The symmetries are also what allowed those guys to become who they were was bold, unprecedented at the time, decisions regarding their quarterbacks. So when Bill Belichick took over the New England Patriots, Drew Bloodsoe, former number one overall pick who had taken

the Patriots to a Super Bowl, was their quarterback. Bill Belichick had coached the Cleveland Browns intermittent success, but no great run been fired there. Coached the Patriots, they were

a five win team. Bloodsoe got the biggest content, the first one hundred million dollar contract in NFL history, and then early in the one season Moe Lewis hit on the sideline, collapsed as lung and he had to go to Brady and then and then Drew Bludsoe was healthy month later, and Bill Belichick said sticking with Brady, and that decision then was the single biggest domino in the next twenty years of a dynasty. Pete Carroll was a

head coach of the Seattle Seahawks. He had been a head coach in New England, had been fired, had not succeeded, got the Seahawks job. They went out and signed Matt Flynn to a massive off season contract. They drafted Russell Wilson in the third round, and Pete Carroll, staying true to his mantra of we compete every day at training camp, said third round, rookie has the job. He gives us the better option. And that then led to that Seahawks' mini dynasty or run. And then what happened to Bill

The marriage with the quarterback fell apart. He didn't have the right answers after and it led to his ouster. And what happened with Pete The marriage with the quarterback fell apart. He didn't have the right answers and it led to his ouster. And I find the symmetry of those things very interesting because it is such a.

That was the key moment for he and Carol when at that moment in time when Carol went to Wilson, when Bill stuck with Tom Brady, not only were they not Hall of Fame coaches, not only were they not champions, they had not succeeded. They had both been fired at their first job. They both had intermittent at best results at this job, and they were probably on their last opportunities to be head coaches in the NFL. And they said, bleep it, I'm doing what not the easy thing, the

tough thing. Everyone expects me to go with the quarterback we signed to the massive deal. No one expects me to go with the unproven rookie or first year or second year guy, and Brady I believe in it. That's what opened the door to having success available what made so that is a lesson for everybody. It's a lesson for everyone that if you really believe in something, go with it, trust your instincts and sink or swim on that. Don't fail because you didn't go with what you believed in.

But the second lesson is this, no matter how great you are, man, it takes help. Everything in life is collaborative. Everything in life you are going to succeed more if you have a great partner, if you have a great either number two or one A or whatever it is. And the last and that's so the I'm not saying Brady made Belichick or Belichick made Brady. I truly believe they made each other. That they are the sum is

greater than the individual parts one hundred percent. And then the last lesson for both of these guys is when you have that success, don't let ego and both be the reason it ends earlier than it's supposed to. And I think with Pete, Carroll and Russ it was more Russ's Eagles egos than Pete. I think with Tom and Bill it was more Bill's ego than Tom. But the fact of the matter is, and even though Tom winn and won that Super Bowl, it didn't this. It was

not the ending anybody exactly wanted. And for Bill it ended up being the end of his run. For Pete it being the end of his run. And so there are go.

reinventions did they have? The we're gonna be a run oriented quarterback don't make mistakes, lean on the defense team. In the early two thousands, we are going to have the highest scoring, highest flying offense in the history of football with Randy Moss. In the late two thousand oughts, we are going to use the numbers against the defense by having two dual threat tight ends like no team has ever had. In the early twenty tens, with Gronk and Hernandez, we are going to make the slot receiver

a deadly weapon in way nobody has. With Welker Edelman a mindola finding new ways, finding different things. When the rest of the world is zigging or zagging, we are going not necessarily going to zig, but we are going to figure out what opportunities their zags allow for. Oh, everyone's worried about the pass, so they are putting more small, fast people on the field instead of trying to out small out fast them. Should we Maybe then we'll be the team that has more big people on the field

and we'll try to beat them up. It's just a brilliant career that kind of had a snding because yet didn't make it work at the end with your partner. And that, by the way, is the story of basically every band that's ever existed at a high level. It's the story of so many television shows in MySpace where it's like, man, you guys had a great thing. What happened? Well, who gets the credit, who gets the most money, who gets to be on the front of the poster or

all those things. That's what happens. And no matter how great you are, and maybe the greater you are, you can fall prey to it. Now, I will say this, there is not You cannot write the Belichick story without acknowledging that the cheating scandals are a real piece of it. They just are, and it's not the biggest piece of it. But Belichick being more than slapped on the wrist multiple times throughout his career in New England is part of his legacy. Is it enough to knock him out of

the goat conversation? No?

flight gate got laid at the feet of Brady. Then there was also a bunch of other hm, it doesn't feel right, which was the always saying their coach to quarterback communication system would go out randomly, but at the key moments of football games, when they were playing in Gillette and stuff that that. Now that's a different bucket. That's more speculation then we can prove it. But it was just enough there where you're like, hmmm, so that's

a piece of it. And if we're gonna be fair to a guy, if a guy dies, you're not really supposed to talk about this stuff unless the guy was just like an evil bad guy. The day after retiring or stepping away from a team's different. He's not dead, he's gonna go get another job. And we can tell the full true on a story of it. And so that combined with the fact that at the end the modern offense seemed to pass him by and at the end he seemed to only want to hire his sons

or friends, that is a piece of the legacy. And if and when someone were to approach his h his success, then can that be a goat tiebreaker. Sure, yeah, if the if, for instance, Andy Reid wins this year's Super Bowl and another one in two years, and then it's like, Okay, he's Belichick's first or right now second in all time wins,

but Read is fourth. Belichick went to nine one six. Andy, by the math that I'm doing right there would be went to six one four, but did it without ever losing draft picks for cheating and had high levels of success with non Hall of Fame quarterbacks and then a dynasty with a Hall of Fame quarterback. Then that can be part of the discussion. But right now he's so far far past the field in the coach goat stuff that this stuff is not enough to drag him down. But it is part of the story, and it is

a fascinating career. It is a one of a kind career, and it all started with him believing in himself. I believe this is right, and I am willing to expend real capital with my boss, with the fans, with the media because I think on the other side it will be the right decision and I have massive respect for that.

And then at the end, ego and stuff gets in the way a bit and It's not that I disrespect for that, but it is a good lesson for all of us that And you know, if you guys think I'm talking about my personal or professional life, I of course am. I am worried than the next couple of years, Demons, The more and more he gets recognized at you know, at Equinox and things like that, is going to come to me and be like, listen, man, I need a bigger title on the podcast and more money or I'm

breaking this thing up. And so I just there. I mean, yeah, So if you're thinking that I am you know what I mean, I'm projecting a bit. Yeah, maybe I am? All right, So demonse, what are the follow up questions here?

in our business. If somebody says something that is way out of left field and then all of a sudden and they're the only one saying it, and then all of a sudden it starts to gain momentum wherever it is. I think they deserve, if you know, credit for being the first person to throw it out there. Nobody was talking about that. She mentioned it a month ago, and it's nestled inside my brain is like, Oh, that's fascinating.

You have the talent, you have the quarterback, you have the offensive weapons, you have all this other talent on defense. You could get that record in two years and you could maybe win a Super Bowl and be like, ah, could Bill work for Jerry A It wouldn't be long term be his mentor. Bill Parcells worked for Jerry and so yeah. And by the way, that's another one when I'm talking about you collaborate, you come together, it's great.

Then egos get in the way. Jerry Jones and Jimmy Johnson they won two super Bowls, were amazing, it was great, and then egos and everything it blows up. I mean, it's a story of a lot of a lot of teams, a lot of a lot of there's a lot of examples of that. I don't think though, that the Cowboys are gonna lose in round one. I'm not certain that McCarthy would get fired for losing in round two. I'm pretty damn confident he wouldn't get fired for losing in

round three. But that is the job Bill should hold out hope for. Do you know what I'm gonna say? The other one is a team.

fired today, McCarthy were fired today. Belichick is a definitively getting a job as a head coach somewhere. McCarthy is probably getting a job as a head coach three straight twelve win seasons. If Nick Sirianni gets fired, what job is he being offered? Just tell me it's not a head coaching job, I promise. And no, No, it's just and so maybe an offensive coordinator. The Panthers don't have their new head coach. They don't have one yet. They have the interim coach. Am I tripping? What?

and claude to get into the playoffs. I'm not so if this is like if I'm Belichick, I am waiting and seeing because some of these jobs are going to be open. They just are, and so I would I would be very I would not go to Atlanta or Washington. I just wouldn't. Now, I'd love to go to Chicago, but Chicago's keeping eber Flus for reasons I don't understand. All right, So go ahead, you.

If I'm looking for a head coaching job, I don't need to be in a division like the NFC South, where there's not any great team but I don't want to be in a division where there's clearly two. So like the AFC West is not those are not. The Chargers job is not a bad job. People are like, ah, you gotta compete with Mahomes. Yeah, but you that's the

only one in the division you gotta compete with. So I would be more nervous about, like going to the NFC West right is take Seattle's job, Like, God, dog it, I gotta compete with Shanahan and McVeigh. I gotta compete with the Niners and AFC East. You feel like, gosh darning, I gotta compete with the Bills and the Dolphins. That's a tough you know, for whoever comes into New England the AFC North, you feel like you gotta compete with four teams and so uh, if you're brable, I wouldn't

want that gig. And here is the other interesting thing. Did Robert Kraft just make the same mistake with head coach that Bill Belichick made withquarterback? I moved on from the goat without having a clear plan on how I'm replacing it. It's on the board. Let's see if they get fable. And I know Drod Mao's there. We'll see if that were to work, he'd be a rookie head coach. I do know this that the Patriots are now the Tennessee Titans in the sports talk world. The Patriots are

now the let me find another, the Atlanta Falcons. They're just not on the list of relevant teams there. They are a team that used to be great but now has no star power and doesn't have the coach, which was the reason we cared about them, Like they are out in the willed feness of just the others. And I don't know again, like that shouldn't impact craft or any of that, But I'm talking about from a list of teams that it's like, oh man, they're talked about

on shows like mine all the time. The Patriots are now at the bottom of the list. They are as irrelevant of a team as there is now. We'll see if they draft the right quarterbacks, see if they get the right coach, But for the time being, that's where they're at. Okay, So that's where you know. I think that was really good. Thirty minutes on Belichick on life on Demonsday's ego one day being the downfall of the What's Right podcast. Uh, we have a gambling show. Thank you.

I appreciate that, pal. We have a gambling show to do, and it is now time to revisit our pre se and futures. The knife has been twisted fully. I'll explain what I mean next What's Right? Welcome back to What's Right in the Great Episode two O seven. This episode is brought to you by US Bank. Winter can be a drag. Thankfully, we've got sports that gus through the early part of the year and if you ask me, nothing goes together quite like food and sports. Obviously, especially

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Demon's one of your follow ups. You were gonna ask, was am I worried about Andy Reid? Then you know the older coaches are retiring, so Andy Reid I do not believe is retiring anytime soon. Florio keeps throwing out there Reid retire after this season. That's another place that if I were Bill, I'd want to wait and see, like, Okay, maybe it's not. I don't see it at all, but I'm saying it's out there. I don't see it at all.

But yeah, if you're Belichick and you're like, yeah, i'll go coach Patrick Mahomes offense, pretty well, I'll go the And then here's the other thing. Is Gabe here, our resident Jets fan Patriot hater who today he's so happy about. And I'm not trying to bring Gabe down, but I do want some context here. So Bill Belichick in the last three years went, I want to make sure I have this math, right, Yeah, I do. He went twenty

two and twenty nine, Is that right? Yeah, twenty two and twenty nine, with one playoff appearance, and the Patriots said, Nope, don't care that you've won six Super Bowls. That's not good enough. You're out here. Mike Vrabel, who just got fired. In the last three years, Mike Vrabel went nineteen twenty five, went twenty five and twenty six with one playoff appearance, and the Tennessee Titans said, don't care, you've been to a conference championship game. Don't care we traded away our

best player. You're out here, Pete Carroll. The last three years went also twenty five and twenty six with one playoff appearance, and the Seattle Seahawks said, don't care, you want a super Bowl here went to another one. You're out here, big. Bob Salah over the last three years has gone eighteen and thirty three, has won a two total divisional games, and the New York Jets are like, come on back, Bobby, you got unfinished business here. So all these Jets fans being like, oh, we put bella

check out. His final game was losing us. Every other team that has had massively more success with massively more established coaches are like, you're out. Meanwhile, Bobby Salah can sit there and just look angry on the sideline and confused, and the Jets are like, you know what, he hasn't had enough time. So andie, I'm not here. Listen, I'm not here for Jet fans victory laps today. I'm just not all right. So sorry, Gabe had to do it too.

You didn't really have to, but wanted to, all right, So before the year, we do a gambling show and we'll get to my actual bets that I make in real life. The Gabe just come in. Does Gabe want your microphone?

I am going to go through it. Cardinals total four and a half. This bet is an under, but it feels too square to make underhit Bill's ten and a half. What I wrote this is the perfect line. Well, they had ten wins going into the final game of the year, and they had a second half comeback to win it, so it was the perfect line. Broncos under eight and a half feels like an under, but maybe there's Sean Payton magic. There was Sean Payton magic, and it wasn't under.

Lions nine and a half. I said, this line's exactly right, so I was off on that, but I didn't bet it. Texan six and a half. This is what I wrote. I like the under, but maybe Demico Ryans does something great, so I didn't bet it. My head was correct. Raiders six and a half. This is what I wrote. The over is the bet, but we won't ever bet on Josh McDaniels and Jimmy G. The over hit because they fired McDaniels and bench Jimmy G. So I got it exactly right and so all right. Next I wrote Chargers

nine and a half, perfect line. I was wrong on that. It wasn't perfect line. Vikings eight and a half. I wrote, this is the exact right number. Saints nine and a half. Love the under, but a little too much juice on it. At minus one forty they were finished with nine wins. Okay. I then called the Bucks, Titans, and Commanders all stay aways. Then there was this category, and this is the one that is real pain, true true pain. The category was would bet but there's a better way to make this bet.

And this is where I outsmarted myself. Okay, Steelers eight and a half over. I wrote, love it, but there's a better bet. We'll get to what that was in a moment. Dolphins nine and a half over, love it, but there's a better bet. The Steelers won ten, the Dolphins won eleven, Packers seven and a half over. Love it,

but there's a better way to make this bet. The Packers won nine games or ten, Falcons oh, eight and a half over, there's a better bet here that one they missed on the final day of the season, and Jets nine and a half under. We love this bet. We love this bet, but there's a better bet. Is what I wrote on these. Okay, So that was five bets that I went four and one on that I didn't make because I thought I had better versions of them, and then spoiler alert on the better versions of them.

Instead of going four and one, I went one and four, just the bleeping worst. Now two our actual wagers, Demonse.

over unders, believe it or not. Thanks to the sharp you know, plus minus stuff, I won seven hundred and ten bucks, okay, which then had I just gone with my good bet would bet situation there, I would have then had one two three four plus four thousand minus thirteen twenty.

plus thirty that was a bad bet. Atlanta plus two ten, I mean they were alive on the final day of the regular season. They could win the division on the final day of the regular season. That wasn't a terrible bet, but it didn't work. And then the one that really really brutalized me, the Jags in Kansas City at plus one fifty. By the way, Miami was plus two ninety, green Bay was plus three fifty. Pittsburgh was plus four seventy. So at I just won the Miami bet, which I

should have. It would have taken care of three of these other ones. Seattle was plus two thirty, Atlanta was plus two ten, and then Jags Kansas City. I didn't need the Jags to not full blown collapse, and that was, if you remember, a two unit bet at plus one fifty six. And then Pittsburgh Miami Green Bay was a quarter unit bet at ninety nine to one. So that's one, two, three, four, five six seven for Jags. Case Jesus seventy two fifty on Division winter bets. Sweet Christ, all right.

to miss. Obviously I went only one for three, but that was only a quarter unit, so that is uh so this is so that is that cost me two fifty. So now, so I finished the year with this minus seventy six ninety. I though, want to show you what I would have finished if the Jags had won the final game of the year. If the Jags had won the final So Monzi, just remember the number seventy six ninety.

It's well, it's easy. If the Jags had won the final game of the year they would have made the playoffs, which would have meant instead of losing two thousand, I would have won thirty two hundred on that two unit bet.

fifty to one. So if we get at Kans City Dallas super Bowl on the year, I win just over twenty three. And if we get Kancity beating Dallas on the year, I win just over eighty three. So we're not dead yet. And the Jags killed me and be trying to outsmart Vegas killed me. That's the reality of it. And we're accountable on this show. We're not gonna be out here be in some tout that's acting like we every year we have winning years. This was a tough one.

I don't need this recap screen on the screen. Let's move on to last week, which was the final week of the year, my chance to get at five hundred, and we went two and three.

least until the game's kickoff. The first two I don't feel great about. Give me the first one.

to a halt. So you have a Cleveland team that is rested because they sat every one of importance in Week eighteen against a Houston team coming off a massive emotional win that they maybe got a little lucky on at the end. I don't love it, but I'll take Cleveland minus two and a half in round one at Houston, and so that that's where I'm at on that. Demond's the next one, and I'll tell you why I don't feel great about the next one.

I also think Miami is gonna be too cold to play football. I don't think they're prepared for these elements, and I think the elements are gonna play a major factor in a number of games this weekend. I think the Chiefs resting last week is super helpful. Miami's obviously playing it's worst football of the year. Mahomes is, without exaggeration, the greatest statistical playoff quarterback of all time. He is first all time in winning percentage, completion percentage, yards per game,

passer rating, touchdown interception ratio. I think Miami is while the Chiefs offense is not great. Miami's defense is so banged up. I think the Chiefs offense could look good against them. And I don't love swallowing the full four and a half points, but I will my Kansas City minus four and a half against Miami, and that's they're the home team, they're the better team, they're playing better as of late.

a missed extra point. Like I mean, these conditions are going to be brutal, but Buffalo oddly is not as good as you would expect in terrible conditions given where they play. Also, we know Tomlin as an underdog is unbelievable. Josh Allen hasn't covered seven straight games as a double digit favorite, and Josh Allen is always over Josh Allen's two and six against the spread in his playoff career.

He's always overvalued come the postseason. I'm getting the better coach, I think, And you can't say the better defense because TJ. Watts out for the game. But I'm getting the better coach and a team that wants to run the ball in these terrible conditions. I will take the ten points next.

the ball at will. A bit of a revenge spot Mike McCarthy, the team that fired him, Dak chip on his shoulder that he at least should be in the MVP conversation instead of it just being handed to Lamar. All those things, the Cowboys getting the exact draw that they want. This is my second favorite bet of the weekend. The first three games of the six games this weekend, I am least confident in Cleveland minus two and a

half against Houston. I am next least confident Pittsburgh plus ten at Buffalo, and the I am next as far as you know, confidence level kensity minus four and a half against Miami. The last three games are the three games I like the most. Dallas minus seven and a half against Green Bay is my second favorite bet of the weekend. I understand the Cowboys are three and twelve against the spread in the playoffs in their last fifteen games.

have to guess. I can just look or go ahead and just Daniel just put it in the dock for us so we can see what their actual team total is. Thirty and a half. Yeah, yeah, so that makes sense, all right, Demand the next one because this is my favorite bet of the weekend.

got to play in the elements. It's a Dome team, obviously. I think that the Rams right now. I think the Rams are the fifth best team in the NFL right now. The only teams I would have ahead of the Rams are the Chiefs, Cowboys, Ravens, and Niners. I think the Rams right now are better than Buffalo. They are just as hot as Buffalo. By the way, They've won seven of eight. Their one loss was an overtime loss to Baltimore. The team's healthy and playing great. So I love the

Rams in this spot, all right. So that's my favorite bet of the weekend. That my second favorite bet is the Cowboys minus seven and a half. And then number three is this go ahead to Monsey Tampa.

and short or fourth and short. For that the defense can't stop anyone. Patricia un't know what he's doing, Like I Tampa now, because Tampa's far from a great team, they're barely even a good team, and their quarterback's hurt. You're nervous about this spot. But Tampa plus three come on, And so I love Tampa. I shouldn't say love. I really like Tampa in this spot, but the Rams plus three, Dallas minus seven and a half, Tampa plus three are

my three favorite bets. Less confident in Pittsburgh plus ten, Kansas City minus four and a half, and Cleveland minus two and a half. And my dream of going six or thirteen to zero in the playoffs. You know it starts this weekend, all right? What's the offer?

these playoffs, he's gonna be running Mahomes rushing overs. I love maybe a little taste on Pacheco there as well. All Right, quick break, demonse, right back, come back and answer listener questions. That's next, What's right? All right, welcome back in What's Right with Nick? Right demonse. Let's get through some of the listener questions from the chat quickly before we move on.

Atlantic City that I would be going to. But your mother not shockingly, you know, it's been a couple months. So she's going on a nice little Caribbean vacation for the weekend while I am, you know, just at home in the cold with your baby, sister. Your I thought demonse that my mom was gonna be helping out with Deanna this weekend, so I wasn't really tripping about your your mom, your mom is going to uh locations I don't unknown in the Caribbean for her best friend's birthday.

And I just assumed, I guess that she had worked out with my mom that Deanna would be with my mom. My mom's going out of town. It is wild card weekend. Deanna doesn't even have school Monday because it's Mlkday and it's just me and her. I'm like, I'm legit. I'm not gonna lie to you. De Monsey. You would have been so annoyed me. I looked in to plane tickets of either you coming here or more likely me sending her to you her first ever flight by herself. But

they I couldn't get it done. I have to watch football all weekend and the Chiefs play Saturday night. Can you imagine if the Chiefs lose, which they're not going to, but if they lose, the mood I'm gonna be in Sunday it's not good. I'm nervous about this whole week.

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