Beam Dream Dead, Lakers vs Warriors Preview, & The Deciding Factor

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to what. And by the way, my lovely daughter newly eighteen year old daughter, Diora Diora, don't leave me hanging. She's here hosting with me. Appreciate it. She's on the show. She just had a birthday this weekend. It was wonderful. It was lovely. Here's what did not make the cut for today's show. Not on today's show, and Hopkins saying, who said I want to go? Yeah he did? Uh, DeAndre, I thought the Chiefs might trade for you. I thought

someone might trade for you. You definitely thought someone's gonna trade for you. That's why there were trade rumors. Aaron Rodgers a Little Madison Square Garden double dip Ranger game, then a Knicks game, and then Lebron gives some bad wildlife advice, talking about if you see me fighting a grizzly bear, help the bear. That is actually a verse

from a mystical freestyle. I preferred the tweet that he sent, which was a verse from Kingdom come back in six from jay Z. But regardless, we'll get to Lebron in a bit, But first to you or oh, that's a look at the sea. That's an unnecessary photoshop with me helping Lebron with a grizzly bear, give me a break. That is no way to start the show. We have too much to do to be distracted by this nonsense. Also, by the way, speaking of birthdays, as we mentioned yours

eighteenth birthday was this weekend. Our executive producer Matt Ford's birthday is today, so happy birthday to Matt. Do your what are we starting with?

this series, right, So that's where they got lucky. Where I was wrong is underestimating Steph's ability by himself, with some help from Kevon Looney, to just carry this team. And this is where so listen and we'll get to Lakers Warriors. In a bit, I'm sad for the Kings, for the King's part of it. Sabonis needed to be better. I didn't love some of their Game seven rotational decisions, felt like way too much. Terrence Davis. I felt like Game six they went small and may and I understand

Terrence Davis was part of that Game seven. It's hard to kill them too much because they're up at half, but obviously that third quarter killed them. They couldn't make a basket, they couldn't get a rebound, and Steph went incandescent. Steph Curry Game seven, Yeah, incandescent Steph Curry Game seven.

Most points in NBA history in a Game seven with fifty. Furthermore, in the last sixty years, there has been one person to score forty five in a game seven win, and that was Lebron in twenty eighteen in Round one against the Pacers. One guy's done it in sixty years. Durant scored forty eight in the game seve they lost. Dominique scored forty seven in a Game seven they lost. Lebron and o Eight scored forty five in a Game seven they lost, So only two even forty five point game

sevens and wins. Step just had one of them. So that then brings up the top ten stuff. And that's where it gets tricky because it does feel like there are twelve guys for ten spots. So my top ten of the last fifty years, which you can check out on our YouTube channel, we have individual videos for every single player. It is absolutely worth your time. It should have gotten me an NBA Awards vote, but I'm not bitter about it.

player since Russell. So the Steph versus Shaq and a Keem stuff is tough. But ahead of Shaq and a keem Are, Bird, Kobe, and Duncan. And this is where it gets really interesting for Steph because he's won on the same level of those guys. Duncan five titles, six finals appearances, Kobe five titles, seven finals appearances, Bird, three titles, five finals appearances, Steph four titles, six finals appearances. He is the greatest teammate in modern NBA history, with the

only close competitor being Duncan. He is not the defender Kobe or Duncan was, but he is arguably the most potent offensive weapon in the history of the sport. So how do you measure that out? The issue for Steph when it comes to jumping those guys is a body of work problem. And by that I mean, and I'll be quick on this, but it is worth noting how many truly great seasons do each of them have, so Steph Curry And again, you can check this out in

the video series. And keep in mind the video series was done before he won last year's title, or it might have been done right when he won last year's title. I don't remember, but it doesn't matter. It was being done while he was in route to winning the title. Great seasons Steph has four first Team All NBAS, two MVPs, four total top five MVP finishes. So as far as this guy might be the best player in the league, he's unquestionably one of the five best players in the league.

He has four years like that, four first team All NBAS, four top five MVP finishes. That's where it gets really hard for him against Bird, Kobe and Duncan. Bird nine first team All MVP, nine top five MVP finishes and three overall MVPs, Kobe eleven first team all in All NBAS, eleven top five MVP finishes, one overall MVP, Duncan ten first team All NBAS, nine top five MVP finishes with two wins. And it's also I know people were doing the is he better than Magic argument? I'm not ready

for that. I don't think that's right. Magic had twelve seasons pre HIV twelve seasons. In those twelve seasons, nine of them he was first Team All NBA. Nine of them he was Top three MVP. Nine of them he went to the NBA Finals and won five titles. So we can't leaping him over Magic. Now. If he wins the title this year, it's different. Go ahead to your nothing you wanted to say something, I'm.

who would be next in line? I'm not quite there yet because he doesn't have the full body of work, but I think he will get there, and him versus Kobe and versus Duncan will be very interesting. Him versus Wilt is always gonna be tough because Wilt did not have the winning Wilt was not a great teammate, but Wilt was as individually dominant as any player in league history. Obviously, All right, what's the follow up here to you?

first team All NBAS and fourteen top five MVP finishes. Okay, so forget that part of it. And as far as oh what if Steph has a winning record against him in the playoffs, Check Michael Jordan's record in the playoffs against Larry Bird spoiler alert, it's oh to six. Check his record against Isaiah Thomas in the playoffs. Check shacks record against Carl alone in the playoffs, it's one to eight. Here is what actually is on the line in this series now, if either one of them win a championship,

it has massive legacy implications for them both. Lebron wins a championship in year twenty, and it is no longer debatable who the greatest player of all time is. Steph wins a championship in year twenty, and I do think he probably he's not in your twenty Pardon me, but at age thirty five, that ends the Steph versus Larry Bird discussion and makes the step versus Kobe and discussions

really really interesting versus Kobe and Duncan discussions. Pardon me, but here's what Steph has an opportunity to do that he's never done, and he should do it because of where they both are in their career. And I understand Lebron's thirty eight steps thirty five, so it doesn't say that different. But here's the reality of Lebron has played playoffs in regular season combined sixty five thousand minutes. Only Kareem has played more. For some context on that, Steph

has played thirty five thousand minutes. Damian Lillard has played thirty thousand minutes, so all of the minutes on the court in Dame's career playoffs in regular season. Add that to Steph's career playoffs and regular season, and you have Lebron's career. So here is the opportunity that Steph has this series, win or lose. And this is why I don't care that much about the overall record. He has played Lebron in the playoff series four times and a

play in once. He has never once outplayed never once. The twenty fifteen finals, Lebron was thirty six thirteen and nine, Steph was twenty six five and six, and Lebron was so dominant in that thirty six thirteen and nine they gave Finals MVP to a guy who evered sixteen points because he held Lebron to thirty six, thirteen and nine. The twenty sixteen finals, Lebron was thirty eleven and nine

and Steph was twenty two, five and four. The twenty seventeen finals, Lebron was thirty four twelve and ten and Steph was twenty seven eight and nine. And the twenty eighteen finals, Lebron was thirty four nine ten and Steph was twenty eight, six, and seven. There has never been a single finals that Steph out played Lebron, not one. So I understand he has the winning record because for he's fifteen and seven for eight of those wins, and only one of those losses he had Durant with him

in twenty fifteen. It was Lebron, Moscow and Della Vedova. They had healthy, evenly matched teams once in twenty sixteen and that led to one of the greatest finals ever and Lebron having the greatest three game shut in the history of the sport. So it will be good talk show fodder. It is also utter nonsense if we had and again that is not disrespectful to Steph. It is just an accurate reading of the situation.

but it was fine. It looked like the series is gonna be a laugher. They then lose to Atlanta in Game three, lose to Atlanta at home in Game five, and then need a furious fourth quarter comeback to beat Atlanta in Game six. You then play Philly with no embeid Harden, fresh off of Vegas trip. He drops forty five on you, and some really an odd game from Jalen Brown and some odd postgame comments from Jalen Brown.

Jalen Brown was six of seven in the first quarter of that game, finished the game eight of ten, so after the first quarter he took three shots the rest of the game. He's asked about the end of the game when he was trying to push in transition and then didn't and he when they ended up getting a shot like violation on the play, and he says, uh, yeah, I was trying to run, but no one was running with me. He also has this very odd hand cut on his hand that he said he got from picking

up a vase. Okay, his like the Jalen Brown thing. Is something to monitor and be at least semi concerned about. Furthermore, there's another one to your further the Celtics lost a game where they scored thirty eight points on eighty five percent shooting in the first quarter. I've never seen a team shoot eighty five percent in a quarter ever. I'm sure it's been done. I don't remember ever seeing it.

And this is why not taking care of business and playing with your food, or as Doc Rivers unfortunately called it, not taking care of business and playing with your meat, can come back to bite you. The Celtics, had they won Game five against Atlanta, this series against Philly would have started on Saturday. EMBIID would have missed that game. Clearly was not going to be ready for Game two, which was going to be today yesterday, and maybe miss game three. Now you go longer with Atlanta, you lose

game one. Now EMBIID doesn't even have to come back for Game two, and Philly has already stolen home court. So I'd love to get more from Demons on this, but it does seem like it's The audio is not great when we go back and forth with him using

the producer mic Hey. But I will say this. The other thing, someone should tell Demonse's guy, Robert Williams time Lord that the playoffs are here, because he's supposed to be their X factor and the guy's getting twenty minutes a game and is yet to have I think he's had one super high impact game, so I think there

are a lot of warning signs for Boston. Conversely, Philly at some point has to get some respect considering they're undefeated in the postseason despite Embiid only playing two games fully healthy and three games at all, and they're five and zero, and right now, if you remember, you know my pick was Lakers Sixers. The two teams with the best record since the All Star Break across the entire NBA are the Lakers and the Sixers. And shout out

to Harden. Playoffs have been a bugaboo for him his entire career, and not only forty five, but a step back, go ahead three in the final twenty seconds. There's this big time in the final thirty seconds that was as big time as it gets. Now, do I think Philly's a lock for the series. I don't because I don't know the health of him Bid, But the idea Philly was a ten point dog yesterday Boston losing that game. It really is a disaster for him. All right, last one of the first segment, you are.

sixty two plus five is sixty seven plus. He played his bench seventy minutes, So there's only two hundred and forty minutes in zwo of playing Diamond a game forty eight minute game, five guys on the court, two hundred and forty minutes. He played his bench for seventy of those two hundred and forty minutes. So what is that like? Right around twenty eight to twenty nine percent something like that of the game was given to the bench. How many points do you do you or I know you

didn't watch the game it was on late. How many points do you think those that bench seventy twenty nine percent? God, that's satisfying. Let's do seventy over to forty quickly.

that much. I'm gonna say twenty four. The bench scored four points. The bench was two of sixteen from the field gave you nothing once again, Damian Lee gave you twenty six unproductive minutes. Josha Koge, who was a bench player but started for you, was one of three from the field for two points. So your non big four guys were a combined three of nineteen for six points.

Not gonna work. You then add to it that Chris Paul tweaked his groin shocker the sunder in dire straits, and then you have the odd Kevin Durant part of it, which is duract. Listen, Durant was not good in this game. In these playoffs as a whole, he's been good. It's been twenty eight a game, twenty eight nine and five on fifty percent from the field. He's been good, but not as dominant as I think people expected him to be good enough. Say it again, Yeah, it seems unfair,

but that's what it feels like. He hasn't had a single I'm Kevin Durant, I'm gonna, you know, destroy your world game yet this postseason. He's been very consistent. Yesterday was his first bad game from a field goal percentage standpoint, but twenty seven, twenty five, twenty eight, thirty one, thirty one, twenty nine, twenty four. But they need more. And and I said this, and Brew and I don't know wild degreed or disagreed, but the minutes were going to catch

up to him. Minutes played in these playoffs are in forty four, forty four, forty one, forty four, forty four, thirty six because they got blown out forty four. Booker's been excellent, not enough. I think the Suns are in real trouble. And all the Jokic stuff, I know people are going to recreate my history on Nikoli. Jokic never said the guy's a bad player. I simply said I

did not think he deserved his two previous MVPs. I also said this year I would have been fine with him winning MVP if he hadn't won the previous two, because this year he fit the bill of an actual MVP, had unbelievable stats, the team was the one seed. They're a real contender. But I wasn't gonna let I wasn't okay with Yokic winning three in a row. With all that said, he was extraordinary yesterday and he's been awesome

this postseason. And Lakers Nuggets in the Conference finals, which we saw in the bubble, is gonna be great and we're gonna get it again because the Lakers are beating the Warriors. I didn't actually give that just real quick here, I think Lakers Warriors is going to follow the exact same beats as Lakers Grizzlies, where the Lakers win Game one, lose Game two, win Game three and four, lose Game five, win game six. I think that is gonna be the beats of this series. And I think the Lakers out

in order to hurt my ankle. In order to win a championship, the Lakers are gonna have to probably go something close to undefeated at home in the postseason. They're a quarter of the way they are at three and Zo Deora excellent first segment, Demonse, that was delightful seeing you. It's also don't care Season five, Demonse wrote on wrote on a piece of paper, what'd you say to yours so they can see him? I think, yeah, well, well, here's the thing to you ere, this is an audio

and a video enterprise. So some people just listen to your podcast, so they can't see all our cool graphics, are cool studio, your lovely outfit today. They can't see any of that. They just they are just you know, listening. So I have to, you know, walk, I have to read for them. Demonzi says, season five, that's not happening. Pal season five is not happening. This Celtics could win the series. But Celtics and five is not happening. And

the Suns and that Chris Paul injury. If he's out, man, it's not that he's been great, but they don't have the depth. And that was the concern with putting all your eggs in a basket with a thirty seven, thirty eight year old point guard thirty how old's drink thirty four. There's some real, real risk there, and I think they're seeing it now. Quick break, sixty second, break right back, talk a little NFL draft, and play a cool game. That's all next.

the Eagles did. It should be noted on Nolan Smith that despite his insane combine measurables athletic freak tests that he had that he just ace, he was not wildly productive at Georgia last year. He only played eight games and sacks can be a misleading number. Where he only had three. The guy only had eighteen total tackles. So the upside is there situational pass rusher down to down.

I say again, I wanted him on my team. But the other thing that I think Howary Roseman is really good, I also think there is some confirmation bias thus far in how we evaluate him. Okay, so let's just go through his first round picks over the last few years. Because he's been great at trading, great at being aggressive, fight drafting, Jalen Hurts in the second round. Believing in him. All that stuff is a triple plus the draft. However, last year they took Jordan Davis at number thirteen. The

jury is out on him. I think he's good. I think he'll be good. Nobody can act like what they saw from him his rookie season, which was marred at the end by a high ankle sprain enough to definitively say, oh yeah, no doubt that was the right pick. The year before, they took Devonte Smith at number ten. I like that pick a lot. I think that was the right pick. Now, it's not fair to be like, would

you have rather had Micah Parsons at twelve? Of course you would have, But the question is him versus the receivers that came after him. He's been better than Kadarius Tony, obviously better than Rashad Bateman. So you like that pick. The year before that, in the first round, they took Jalen Rager over Justin Jefferson. That is a massive miss. The year before that, in the first round, they took Andre Dillard, and that was a massive miss. They they

took Derek Barnett. I don't know how he was there when they took Derek Barnett. They took Derek Barnett in the first round. He's fine, I don't. I don't think many Eagles fans would say, oh yeah, he's he lived up to that first round pick. And obviously the Wins extension was a disaster. So I do think there was a little too much of media group think and just drafting all Georgia guys. I think could have some downside

to it, but I like their players. I like the guys they got, and if my team were drafting in those spots of two, I would have wanted.

wide receiver from SMU Now. He was wildly productive in college and they obviously liked him. I I'm not gonna act like I scouted Rashi Rice. I'm not a draft guy, wils. I wanted them to go defensive end, wide receiver or wide receiver defensive end in that order they did. They just got to be right on the player. And then they took an upside tackle in Juanya Morris. And again they traded up in the second and third round to target both of those guys. So those were clearly players

they really wanted. And so then you just gotta see if they end up being you know, last year they crushed the draft. Only Seattle had a better draft than him last year, So you gotta wait and see. They did address their biggest positions of need. Now I do want to spend a couple of minutes here talking about the other big stories of the draft. Okay, I cannot overstate what a long term disaster I think the Texans draft is going to prove to be. Everyone loved. I

shouldn't say everyone. A lot of people loved it because they end up with their quarterback CJ. Stroud and the best defensive player, Will Anderson. The price they paid to go get Will Anderson in trading the twelfth pick, the thirty third pick, and this is the most important part. Next year's number one pick is bananas. It's in. The Texans could be the worst team in the league next year. They they traded away the number one pick of the draft, or maybe the number one pick of the draft, their

number one pick. If the Texans loved will Anderson that much, you could just stay it too, draft him at two and then at twelve take another blue chip player like Christian Gonzales, or trade out of that pick, which you obviously could have, so you can draft Caleb Williams, who is a generational prospect next year, or Bryce may or even if you just love CJ. Stroud CJ. Stroud on this team, They're not going to be good next year. I can't believe the Cardinals. The Cardinals very likely. I

shouldn't say likely. It is absolutely on the board that the Cardinals go into next year's draft with the first and second pick of the draft. They could be the worst team. The Texans could be the second worst team. So I thought the Cardinals crushed. I thought what the Texans did was back crazy, And now I want to defend the Lions for a moment, all of my smart media friends. They are in agreement on one thing. The

Lions draft was stupid. They drafted these non premium positions and they didn't get the value they needed all of it. Here is my tepid defense of the Lions. I don't think drafting the second best running back in the draft at twelve is good strategy. I don't think drafting an inside backer at eighteen is good strategy. I understand that. I think the Lions looked at it like this. They must have believed that Jamiir Gibbs it's good enough in a normal draft to be far and away the best

running back in a non Vjon Robinson draft. Everyone agrees that Jack Campbell is the best inside linebacker. Everyone agrees that Brian Branch, the safety that they gotten around two, is the best safety. And they must have fallen in love with Sam Laporta, a player I liked, but everyone

was shocked that he went before Michael Meyer. But they had the opportunity, so I think they looked at this draft and said, with our first four picks, we can get the best or the second best player in the entire draft at four positions and instantly have for the next five years, a top level starting safety, a top level starting tight end, a top level starting inside backer, and our top level running back. I understand the positional value part of it. I understand why analytically speaking, it

was not sound. But I also understand the lion's perspective of Okay, we're sitting there at where was there forty five? We could get the seventh best receiver or the best safety. We're sitting there at eighteen. We could get the fifth best pass rusher or the best inside backer. We're sitting there at twelve we could get the fourth best offensive

lineman or a running back we love. I don't necessarily agree with it, but I don't think it's as quite as insane as what seemingly everyone else in the analytical community thinks it is. So those were my big draft takeaways, and now we can move on to the game.

And the X factors their rookie head coach Joe Missoula, and the Joe Missoula has not exactly bathed himself in glory thus far this postseason. And even if they get out of Round two Spolstra, what they have waiting for them, and that the best coach in basketball, that could be a hell of a challenge in round three. So to me, the are X factor is Joe Missoula, without question. All right, next seventy six ers? All right, so why very simple? Outrageous depth and the MVP. That's why why not would

be playoff Harden? If playoff Harden who yesterday was not playoff Harden. And that's a great thing. And the X factor is Tobias Harris. I feel like we know what we're gonna get from MAXI. We know if and be healthy, what we're gonna get from embiid. If Tobias Harris can consistently just give you what he gave you last night, which is not a ton but right or what let me see what he finished with last night? I think it was right around twenty. Tobias last night had eighteen

points on sixteen shots, made two threes. That's all you need from it. It's very simple for them.

the overall talent's not enough. They're leaning a lot on Kyle Lowry and then you get to Struce and Vincent and Caleb Martin and a Zeller brother wearing a mask. The X factor is Kyle Lowry. Does Kyle Lowry have one more great playoff run in him? If he does, man that's a backpad is a tough ass back court man in Butler and Lowry. All right, Next, the Suns why could they? Booker and Durant have the highest scoring run of any champion duo ever. That's their only way.

The highest scoring duo of any champion ever is Shaq and Kobe and one at fifty nine a game. They're gonna need Booker and Durant to be sixty five a game for them to win the title. Wow, okay, why not? Depth? They have no bench, they barely have a starting five. It's very simple. Why not? And the X factor is Chris Paul's health. If Chris Paul's growing, like even if he's health I don't like him in this series. If

he's not healthy, they're cooked. And the maybe there's news on that since we've been on the air, I haven't seen it. But the soft tissue injury for Chris Paul, you could see that coming a mile away. They're playing him forty minutes a night. In Round one. I kept saying this was a bad idea, and it had it already came to fruition.

Bruce Brown. You trust them all in the playoff in these moments, and Christian Brown's been good, why wouldn't they win the title? Michael Porter Junior, they need him to be a consistent threat from the outside. And he's a weird guy in that he doesn't have many B games. He has an A game and then some C and

D games. And the X factor is the altitude. The X factor for them is a home court advantage when you are playing every other day, that is like any other team in the sport, because guys get there and they don't have the stamina for it. Like if they were to be in the conference finals, they will play either the Lakers or the Warriors. Lebron is old. Can he handle that altitude. Staff runs more than any player

in league history when he doesn't have the ball. Can he handle the altitude with them having home court advantage. It's a legitimate question, and that is the X factor. How well trained their opposition is to deal with that altitude. All right, that was a really good game. Answer your questions in the C block questions and comments. That's next What's Right? All right? Welcome back in What's Right with Think Right? Episode one forty seven. You're supposed to do the welcome back in Scoot, No.

how you look at it. Sky Moore was a second round pick for the Chiefs last year, Rashie Rice, who was second round pick for the Chiefs this year. MBS. There's four. They signed Richie James, they like Justin Watson who was on the team, and they have a flyer on Justin Ross. So that and so, no, I don't think they're adding any more receivers. I kind of wanted them to spend an asset in the draft on a tight end because I wanted them to be able to

learn from Kelsey. But they didn't prioritize that, all right, Next.

like top tens. They like big, easy round numbers, and because of that, I listen. The top twelve is inarguable the twelve greatest players in league history are, and we could argue about the order, but they are lebron Kareem Michael Magic, Russell, Wilt Duncan, Kobe Bird, steph Akeem Shack. That's twelve. After that, you then get into another section. The old timers in that section are West Oscar, doctor

j Moses, the kind of bridge. The gap guy in the section is Isaiah Thomas, and the contemporaries in that section are Jannis and Durant. That's seven. They're their own bucket of guys. And then that next group, one of which is a top twenty player. The others are not are Waged, Dirk, Garnet, Mailman, Mike, and if we want to go way back, pettit Coozy that that group of guys,

and it gets complicated from there. Again. I'm sure I left someone else someone out when I was talking about that next bucket of people, but I think for the most part we got it. Is there anybody I said Derk? I think I said Chrome alone. Barkley's in there. The CP three's probably in that next little group. It gets complicated, gets hard a lot of NBA history. What about Luca, Well, Luca, you know, obviously will be there. And Luca, you know, I had twentieth on the fifty graders of the last

fifty years. This year kind of hurt that and he needs to put a few more pelts on the wall. But Luke obviously is gonna be there. Let's just keep moving, go ahead, all right.

for both teams. So the Warriors go from playing a team and that's all offense, no defense, to the best defense in basketball that is going an incredibly long, incredibly strong, incredibly physical. Are the Lakers. The Kings are all finesse, so that's gonna be a tough adjustment for them. The Lakers, on the flips, I'd go from playing the worst shooting team in the playoffs Memphis, to the best shooting team in the playoffs and the Warriors. That's gonna be a

culture shot. Who adjusts most to that is key. I also do think while Lebron typically treats game ones as feel out games that tonight's game is a sneak. Gotta have a game for the Lakers because after tonight, it's every other night for the entirety of the series. And tonight the Lakers they're coming off some rest. The Warriors are coming off of seven game war. So I think the Lakers need this win.

longer say that can't say anymore. Can't miss the play in and be healthy most of the year, just can't. That's so yeah, he's it did affect his rating absolutely, so there's no question about it. So yeah, I love Luca, but he did not the team. The MAVs were a failure and all effects. So is Lucas still a superstar? Yes? But can I call him one of the two best players in the sport anymore? I cannot doora you were

excellent today? Oh you don't want a rating? No, I don't nine point zero your best one yet, Demonse.

If they'll Demanse, I will tell you this, if we get a Lakers Celtics finals and they're in LA, I will buy you tickets.

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