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your money back for listening to this show. All right. You know, I was just looking at the beers. I was going to be bringing the table. You know, I got a Spreadsharet in studio S and I guess I'm just doing this. I guess I'm gonna do this. I'm going all in I'll explain here in a second, but before we get in a way, ten years we've been doing this fine radio show. In ten years, we've been starting off the show the same way, and we're not going to

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segment s brought to the table. I'm bringing beer. Chat's bringing a beer, and I hope whatever you're doing responsibly you can be having a beer with us because it is time to crack a beer. You're a couple of minutes in. Who's going first? This is table that's right byg on the northwest side of Houston bringing you this segment home of a one hundred different menu items and over one hundred different beers. And want to thank our good buddy of

Fred out there. And that's our first yeah, first name drop of the show right there and northwest side of Houston. James, you said you're going to do a thing. You want to tackle your your beer fridge. But we're gonna do something here. And I say we because I got a stunt beer liver that's going to help out with this. James, What happens to october Fest beers after Halloween? Like, when October's done, you're into November.

What happens? I heard they explode? Right Well, I found one that didn't explode, So we're gonna open it now just in case it explodes. I mean it could go. It's a ticking time bomb. It could go any minute. I'm gonna go first. This is the Eastwood october Fest mars and style beer from wax Wings Brewery Kalamazoo, Michigan. Yes, Larry. There's another name drop listener, Larry. He's a big fan of the show. This is, in his opinion, the best brewery in the state

of Michigan. What that's a bold claim there, kind yeah, big claims. So I mean there's only six breweries in Michigan. So I guess there's not. Yeah, yeah, Well wait a minute. You heard breweries are closing all over the country. What yeah, so now there's only five. But that's okay. There's one in California, there's two in Texas. We still have three times more than now. Only one in Texas just closed. Shut up, all right? Anyway, go ahead, as stunt beer Liver.

I've got Keith Patterson in studio. We're gonna be talking to him later in the show about Beer City USA, the documentary television series. Nice. That's gonna be fun. It's gonna be fun. I look forward to that. I watched the trailer. It's very impressive looking sizzle reel. Yeah. Yeah, So that's what we have here from Waxwings Brewery. This is again the Eastwood Octoberfest, mars and style beer Kalamazoo, Michigan. Wax Wings coming

in at five point. I don't have my reader glasses on eight percent. I'm gonna go five point eight yep, So and so and by the way, we already we both had a sip. It's got a nice mahogany color. Uh actually a little more copper than reddish, and off white head a little tan. Nice looking, very tasty. And we're drinking october Fest beers in November, and neither one of us is dead yet, so it's still safe to drink. But later on the show we may be talking about a

beer that may kill you. Oh well, we gotta talk about that teaser, Chad, that teaser, all right. So the lawyers got involved. Great, Yeah, I had to revise the one sheet boom, So what's the ABV on that one? Five eight? Hold on, watch this, James. Well, it's a radio program, so you have to tell them what I'm doing. Here, Here we go, Here we go. James put his readers on so you can read. Yeah, no, I can read it. Oh yeah, that's five eight all right. So I told

you I was gonna do this. I guess I'm all in. I'm doing it from my beer fridge to the microphone I am bringing from our friends over at Saint Arnold Brewing Company, you know, one of my favorite brewies here in the Houston market. But I guess I'm going all in, Chad, I'm going all in. No with the Christmas too early, is it though? Is it though? Well, I'm drinking a beer that's late. You're drinking a beer that's early. All right, Christmas Tale, the Yale Old

Christmas Ale, rich and cheerful Saint Arnold Brewing Company. Into my Samula Adams Boston Logger glass. You see it's nice copper color, nice roasty, rich maltz right there. And this comes to you at seven point five percent alcohol by volume. Well that'll get the party started. It will get the party started. So I went off to one of the big box stores to pick up something for I buy water salts for my water softener. And when I was greeted when I walked into the big box store, I was greeted with,

ah, the Christmas decorations. So I guess you know what, if they're all in, I'm all in. So here we go. I'm a year old Christmas sale, rich and cheerful. I'm going to take a swig of this. Yeah. Of course, that's a classic. Comes out every year usually about June, because you know Christmas beer is coming out earlier. Maybe split my beer out. You can't make me. You can't do that. He just spent me a on the microphone. It's a four hundred dollars

mic all right. So that has brought the table. Kicking things off this week, Chad with the the Eastwood October Fest Marston style beer wax Wings Brewery, of course, Larry says, the best brewery in Michigan. And you, of course went with the classic ye old Chris Christmas sale from the award winning Saint Arnold Brewing Company. All right, and that's how we're kicking this off, brought to you by the back grill. All right, we're gonna

take a break, but still to come. On this episode, we're gonna talk about Samuel Adams Utopius and there's a beer out there that could get you sick. See how I changed that? Oh man, the lawyers got involved. Yeah, all, this is so much more on this edition What's on Tap Radio? Coming right up, the official What's on Tap Radio Fun Fact of the Week. We'll be right back on. Average, humans walk nine

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us? Were good? James Simpson joined by Bister Badelatch himself as a chap hill Beam. First segments brought to the table spots my friend's over at the backyard Grill. Chad decided to do an experiment, decides, you know what, let's just see what happens to this October Fest if we crack it here in November. And guess what, ladies, gentlemen, guess what. He's still with us. And yeah, the thing didn't explode. He didn't grow an extra arm a tail, that's usually what happened. His nose about that,

his nose didn't fall off his face. No, no, no, no, he doesn't have eight around the room backwards. He doesn't have aids. No. Yeah, that was the one that was okay, you brought that up. Golly, what was the guy's name from San Antonio? Scott Metzger. Scott Metzger. There's a name drop, there's a name blast from the past. Yeah, and he said all october Fest beers on November one turning into cans of eights. Well, I asked him. I was Interviellium.

We're at the Great American Beer Festival, and I asked him. This was god twenty eleven, twenty twelve, maybe a long time ago. And I was like, Scott, why do you think people don't drink Octoberfest beers in November and December? And he's like, well, obviously, because it turns to cans of aids in the interview he said that. I was like, Oh, that's a that's a that's a cut. I'm always gonna refer to. Yeah, I know, but that's not true. It's not true.

There's nothing wrong. It's not true. Yes, that's why fake news. Because I've got a stunt beer Liver in studio. He's like, what did you just give me? Hang out with Keith Patterson Beer City USA, the documentary television series on Stunt Liver. And because I've got some more beer, we need to open up. I'm not saying we have to open up more october Fest beer, but yeah, we got to open up some more

Okay, before you do that. So the other day, the other day, I went to my local beer retailer and on the Clarence Aisle, guess what was on the shelf. Don't tell me october Fest. October Fest four ninety nine six packs? What the heck? Four ninety nine six packs of october Fest on the Clarence Aisle on the clar You remember what brewery it was? Of course I bought it. Oh it was Saint Arnold. No no, no, no, no it's not Saint Arnold. Oh no it wasn't.

I'll bring that later. Oh, going to bring it later, all right? Well, whether that's later today or later on next you know week, or oh yeah, but yeah, bringing up bring it out for the holiday, or nine six packs of October Fast beers. That's insane. Yeah, all right. Well, to tell you a little bit about the beer I brought to the show. First segment, Brought to the table, brought to you by our friends at the Backyard Grilla on the northwest side of Houston.

I have the Eastwood october Fest mars and Beer and Stunt Beer Liver in studio with me to help me get through this in case I pass out from too many october Fest beers. Keith Patterson, take on this beer. What do you think? Like it? Love it? Hate it? Drain poor, want to chug it? What do you want to do. Oh, I think it's pretty good. It's got some great flavor, great color, as you mentioned, and as far as I can tell, not a trace of aids. All right, all right, that's good side. I don't

I don't want to ask Keith how. He's an expert on not being able to pick up aids and beer, but Clymdia might be different. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, He's like, haven't had that one yet? Cheat, It's like, all right, move again. Speaking of skating around and over things, let's move on, James and uh yea, So it's time for me to really kind of dive into the beer. I want to take a sip. Tell you what my thoughts are. Okay, oh, this

is always good. This is the best part of the show. Well, you know, not quite the best part, but no, this is absolutely the best part of the whole part. It goes downhill after this. Here we go. He's taking a sip. Yep, definitely rich, hearty, perfect for the holiday season, multi sweetness with a spicy hot character. Let me take another sip. Oh yes, yep, there it is the second sip. I definitely get a generous use amount about five different malts for this

full flavor, high alcohol level in this beer. This is the best consumed probably I would soon about forty five degrees fahrenheit. And this is that Seties and gentlemen, write all that on your Christmas cards and send it to your family right there, because that's what every family member wants to hear this holiday season. Seven percent alcohol by volume. And uh oh as I hang on

as talking to oh yeah, yeah, okay. Gold medal winner at the Real Festival in two thousand, Gold medal at the Real Festival in nineteen ninety eight, Bronze medal in the Old Ale category in nineteen ninety eight, Silver medal the World Beer Cup. All right, this guy, I'm telling you what beer guru, James Simpson, he's an encyclopedia. He gets all that from every from every sip. But I'll say he gets all this information. It's only and he it's only because it came out of the Samuel Alams Boston

Longer glass. If I was drinking out of a different glass, it wouldn't have told me that. Now. The official What's on Tap Radio fun Fact of the Week brought to you by Who's ever check Cleared? This week? Who's check Cleared this week. Do we know I'm looking hold, I went to the mailbox today. Oh, there were a handful of bills and I just threw those in a pile. But I was looking for the check.

Well, we didn't see. We were taking to the check cashing place, and he told us that we took it there one more time, they're gonna call the police. So we gonna take there anymore. We can't afford the juice on those payday loans anyways, So if you try to cash another check here, we're calling the police. I know, I know, but we need beer money, all right. Well, speaking of beer money, that's a nice what we call a toss. And James didn't even know he did

it. But we're gonna talk a little bit about beer money, but not the kind of beer money that we've talked about before, because in a prior What's on Tap Radio fun Fact of the Week, we talked about what beer money really means and whether or not it means you have enough money to go

buy beer. It's the money that you save to buy beer, or whether it's the money that you just decide to take out of your budget, which you have no budget for beer money, but you just instantly create it and you just go without, I don't know, feeding the kids or paying the mortgage, whatever it is. This is a different type of beer money.

Now, beer money is a cryptocurrency right now, which at the time of press here when we went live, it was trading for one tenth of one cent, and it's not a real hot cryptocurrency right now, but it's out there. But I started thinking about that people buy and selling trade cryptocurrencies all the time, and I just was curious because we did talk about this people day trading while drunk, and it's that thirty two percent of all day traders

admit to doing so under the influence of alcohol. That's a fun fact in itself. But ladies and gentlemen, we've talked about that before. So I don't like recycled fun facts. So let's jump into the real fun fact and let's talk about real stock trading and doing it the way the professionals do it. Okay, James, this is the way the real pros do stock trading. And what does it have to do with beer. Well, we're going to consult a billionaire, none other than our good friend Jim Cook of Boston

Beer Company. Speaking of the Boston lagger glass. Definitely feel little guilty. I got a Boston lagger glass right here. I'm not using fee feel a little guilty. But Jim Cook billionaire. He is the founder of the Boston Beer Company, makers of Sam Adams Beer, and he has a very unique investment strategy. And his billionaire plan is too. Every two weeks, randomly pick a stock and then hand all the trading over to his family's former baby

babysitter to oversee all the stock purchases and trades. That's right, if you can believe this, beer billionaire Jim Cook buys a random stock every two week and then trusts his former babysitter to execute all the trades, all the buying and selling. Yeah, I'm gonna pick this stock in that one boom, and then says, yeah, I used to watch my kids. I trusted you with them. I trust you with my money. And he says,

he said this, this is great. He does this randomly because he says that I don't believe I have any chance in hell of ever outsmarting any professional investor. If you sold me a stock, you know more about it than I ever will. I just want to focus on running my company. So what does he do. He randomly picks a stock and hands it to the babysitter, and he has outperformed most of his other stock portfolios with this technique.

So your official What's on Tap Radio fun fact of the week is, if you want to be a billionaire like Jim Cook, this is a sound investment strategy. You know what, there's probably an investment show that's on one of our our Houston market it's probably after this show and before, probably on right after this show, and they're not gonna get You're not gonna get this sound advice. But by the way, maybe a good time to run the

disclaimer for the lawyers. But your official What's on Tap Radio fun fact of the week is beer billionaire Jim Cook of the Boston Beer Company randomly buys a stock every two weeks and then gives it to the former babysitter of his kids and say, all right, you manage my portfolio. And he has outperformed his other stock portfolios with this strategy, and that is your official What's on Tap Radio fun fact of the week. He buy stock and dockers. You

know, he's got stocking dockers. The dude only wears Dockers and denim shirts by Strauss and Levi Dockers. Proud to say I've never day traded intoxicated. You know I know that because I never day traded. I'm gonna say you've never been intoxicated. No, you've never day traded the same. All right, we gotta take a break, so to come. Speaking of Jim Cook, we're gonna talk about Samuel as Utopias. It's returning. Yay uh opp sees uh a lot of beer. There's gonna be a rehearsal party. That's

not happy. All this is so much more coming up. This is what's on tap. Brady will be right back. Yeah, we drink water, but it has to be filtered through a brewery first. You've got what's on tap radio. I want to be a billionaire, so freaking bad by all of the things on now he do we know the network of magazine Jim cooks? Who is it his? Uh oh, his babysit baby. Why is he have a babysitter? Well, no, it's a former babysitter. She's now the assistant to Jim Cook's wife. Okay, do we know her network?

Because of his investments? You know, back in the day Jim Cook, he had a paper route and he saved up enough money to buy one hundred and forty dollars worth of stock and Procter and Gamble I think it was. And those two shares of stock right now are worth over twenty thousand dollars. So he had that when he was a he had a paper route. My guess is that babysitter. She wasn't working for four bucks an hour, five bucks an hour watching kids? No, no, no, no no

no. She was doing all right. So I don't know what her net worth is, but she had beer money. That's all I gotta say. Good for her. All right. We got a lot to get to on this episode, a lot of stories get to, but I got a listener, email, chat oh chatz and cracking. Oh yeah, I got to crack up in another beer because this can could explode at any moment, because it's another Octoberfest beer. Octoberfest lowouts. Yeah, if there's any october Fest beer left in the fridge, you know, f t A may show up.

And you know, de e a f t A A T F A t F that's the one I was thinking of. Yeah, not the f A. We already talked about airlines. But anyway, this is I don't think we have this one on the show this year. This is this Sierra Nevada October Fest Fest beer, and no we haven't. This is a collaboration. Uh, here I go again. If I'm gonna read the can, you gotta put on the old glasses. Oh sure, thanks a lot, Ken Grossman. It's a collaboration with the cur word or brewery. I can't

kur waiter right now. Sasha Tibo's losing his mind. Uh. He's our resident German and if you can't pronounce the German names, he gets really upset. But there we go. Got a stunt beer liver in studio with me Keith Patterson, Beer City US a documentary television series, and he's gonna help me consume this. Meanwhile, James, now that we have beer and this is the fest beer, we'll talk a little bit about this beer in just a little bit, once we get a chance to enjoy it. But you

said we have a listener email. Guy, a listener email, and it says, James, Chad love the show. I heard you guys talking about this story about a guy went out for beers with his coworker and a fly landed in his beer, and the guy went and got the beer replaced. You guys talked about how you guys would just get the beer. I'm paraphrasing. It's kind of long. Basically, we talked about how this fly landed and the beer, and the guy went and got another beer, and we

were talking about how crazy that was. We would just take the fly and you just flick it out. Continue. It's not the bar. It's not the bar, brewery's fault. If you got a beer, picked it up at the bar, went back, and you're walking back to your seat, sit down in a fly lands in the beer, and you want to go ahead and blame the establishment. Well, I don't know if he blamed it.

He just got it replaced and they replaced it. They actually did, and his buddy, the guy I wrote the email, was like, Hey, I mean, what's big deal, Just take the fly and flick it out. So hard about that, but he insisted on getting another beer. So this listener email says that here's a link to a story, and you tell me whether or not you would continue just flicking that fly out of your beer. So it says when you're eating outdoors in a fly lands in your

food, What do you do? I'm guessing what we all do right, rush it away and just continue on eating or in this case, drinking. But this press might change your approach. So it turns out, within a first few seconds of a fly landing on your food, it starts vomiting digestive fluid on it. The fly is trying to get it soggy enough that he can slurp it up, since it doesn't have any teeth. And flies aren't exactly sanitary bugs. We know you see them buzzing around on cow manure and

then slurping that up too. And so when a fly throws up on your food or in your beer, even the tiny amount, they could be spreading dangerous bacteria onto it, including Salonella and equali. Speaking of that, we got that on a coming up. Uh. Not every fly is going to contaminate your food, but they could, and babies, elderly people, and people with weaker immune systems are most susceptible. So what do you do when you're outside and a fly lands on your food or on your beer? What

are you gonna do? Now? I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say my immune system is still strong enough. I've been doing it for over forty almost fifty years. I'm not a small infant child with a low immune system. And even if I'm ninety and I have a low immune system and I'm facing i can see the light at the end of the tunnel and it's a freight train coming my way or something like that, or I'm getting ready to be called home, or i can hear the grim Reaper whispering in my ear.

Don't do it or else. I'm like, look, dude, if I go because of a fly, of a little fly vomit telling you what, I'm gonna go ahead, and I'm game on. But listen, I will roll the dice. But does that even slightly change your thing? You know, change your mind? Going? You know what? Maybe I won't. Maybe I'll go see if i can get this beer replaced. Oh does it change my mind? Let me? No? No, No, it doesn't. I'm sorry, Keith, Keith Patterson stunt beer liver. Does this change?

Does this? Has this affected you in any way? Are you gonna all of a sudden change your dietary habits because of flies landing? Now that you know this? No, I'm with you. I'm just gonna take the chance. Take the chance. That's right, Throw caution into the wind. Listen. I appreciate the fact that we have listeners who care about us that much that they send us emails and they say that that we got it wrong. I like that because I love being called out because if we get it

wrong, we want to know. But if I'm wrong, if every if every medical expert out there agrees with our listener who sent this email and that I'm wrong, I am okay. I am okay dying on that hill. I really am say quite literally, if you want to send us an email, you can do so. What's on tapado at gmail dot com like this, fine listener, did or you get ahold of us through our social media that's on tap Radio, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and TikTok. You jump

into our dms, but yeah, there you go. You'll never I love it. A listener went that far to look out for our well being. They care, they really care. And then now they're probably I don't know again, I don't know. Did you say I'm sorry I didn't catch who sent it? Well, okay, so I'm not gonna say their name because they didn't tell me whether or not they Okay, they didn't, so I never know. So I just don't unless unless they say, hey, you can say my name. Then got it? Got it? Got it?

Well I do. I do want to say that. They're probably upset with me now. They're like, I tried to save your life, man, and you don't even care. That stubborn son of a he just wouldn't listen. And now you're taking Keith with you. And I wanted to see that documentary. All right, we're gonna talk about that later the show. Oh well, here's a here's a little twist. I'm gonna go ahead and throw this little twist at you. What would happen? You know, we're talking

about a regular beer. This is a standard pint, probably cost you about six bucks at the bar. What if you got yourself a pint and that pint of beer cost you, oh, I don't know, somewhere around I don't know, two hundred and fifty bucks for a pint of beer. Yeah, and a flylands in it. I'm not even what it does that fly come with the beer? Maybe maybe it's no, no, no, no, I'm saying, if you if you know, people are wondering what the

heck I'm talking about what you're talking about. Fine. Boston Beer Company has once again released sam Adams Utopia. Oh okay, okay, you lost me for a second, but you got me back in. Okay, you to This is a twenty eight percent alcohol by volume malt bomb. And this is not your typical stadium poor boozy ipa. Oh no, no, no, no no. You get those bourbon barrel stouts that come in at fourteen percent. That's child's play. By the way, we're not encouraging children to drink

beer. But sam Adams Utopias is beer that's so strong it's prohibited in fifteen states. And it comes in at a suggested price of two hundred and forty dollars for a twenty four point five ounce bottle. So it's a little more than a pint, you know, at you know, sixteen ounce pint versus twenty four ounce pint. So well, here, how about this two beers for two hundred and forty dollars because two twelve ounce beers, Yeah, for

two hundred forty bucks. You pour those in a glass and all of a sudden, the flylands in it. Are you gonna go ahead and say no, I need a new one. I need a new one, of course, not that ain't gonna happen. Now, if you have never had Sam Adams utopias, it's more like cognac or port. You don't chill it. It's still servet it room temperature, preferably in a sniffer. But it is banned in several states because it is stronger than a lot of spirits. So

it has that, you know, it falls into the spirit category. Right states, What does it say with states? The states that cannot sell it include Alabama, Alaska, Georgia, Mississippi, Montana, is New Hampshire, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Oregon, South Carolina, Utah, Vermont, and West Virginia. Okay, definitely Utah. Yeah yeah, Utah is on that list. So anyway, James, first of all, I want to ask our stunt beer liver Keith, have you ever had utopias? No, but

it sounds awesome. It is. It is awesome, James, James, It's terrible. It's awful. It's garbage. I've had it four or five times, never once have I go, Man, I can't wait to try that again. I still had it on the show, didn't we have it on the show. I don't think. I don't know if we did. Yes, we have. We've had it on the show. Oh you know when we had it on the show. I think we were at the backyard grill. Maybe I got a picture of it. I got a picture of

it. But I've had it at the Great American Beer Festival. It's fantastic. I love it, and at one time I wanted to spit it out, but I felt that it was too expensive to do that. So I have a twenty nineteen bottle still in my house. So Adam and people still go crazy for it. I think they do. I mean, if you've had it, you've had it. But you know you either like it and love it. But it's something I was trying to get every year, but I couldn't. So so there you go. Utipius is returning hundred forty bucks

for two beers. All right, we gotta take yourybody still to get to Still, to get to Canada has no fun. We'll talk about that so much more. Will you ride back? The only thing we throw back on Thursday is a pint of beer or two or three. This is what's on tap radio. Back to James and Chad. It's appropriate, deleast get one holiday song on Welcome Back to What's on Tap Radio. I'm still consuming my Christmas ale Saint Arnold Brewing Company. I'm just going all in, I'd said

in the beginning of the show. I'm just going all in. I why fight it is going all in with the Christmas beers. This won't be the last guarantee that. But I do have some Octoberfest beers in my fridge here at studios, and Chad has already consumed two of them and he is still kick, live and kicking. Yeah, that's all right. In fact, we crushed both of those, the Eastwood october Fest from wax Wings and then

the Octoberfest Fest Beer from Sierra Nevada. I like that what Sierra Nevada does with that, they do a different collaboration every year with a different German brewery to make this beer. That one there was a little more on the bitter side, bittering hops, and it was a little drier than what I remember

some of the other examples being. But then again, as we've talked about on the show, our palettes evolved the change and who knows, but speaking of dry and bitter, and I do have a stunt beer liver in studio with me Keith Patterson, Beer City USA documentary, And well we're just going to crack another one. Why because well there are two of us. We almost had ourselves a spell. Whoa chad, such a pro that it foamed over, but he is quickly to get it into his glass and not a

lot of head on that glass. So that is a true, true pro right there. That was a good save, all right. So, uh, this is a fun beer that I like to pick up. This is one I typically grab whenever I'm out with Mark mcshaffery and the Backyard Grill brew crew on Ragbri riding their bikes across Iowa. I like to grab the Axe Man I p a from Surly Brewing Company out of Minnesota. This beer formerly known as Todd the Axe Man, named after the brewer Todd, but Todd

doesn't work there anymore, so screw Todd. We're taking his name off them Todd. It's a really good beer, though, so we're just gonna call Axe Man ipa. And this one comes in at Oh here we go again. Oh no, I can read this one. Seven point two percent dank, hoppy, loud, an angry, can kind of looks like, you know, the End of Times terminator sena a terminator either that or maybe some barbarian war. I don't know, but delicious beer, bitter dank hold on,

Oh, that'll clean out the old nose. Well, that serves its purpose. Everything that fire. Marshal Matt hates because it's bitter. Piny resmee. Yeah, another name drop right there. So he's a good friend of the show. Hates IPAs though I don't understand that one, but okay, teach their owne. I know Fred doesn't like it either. There's got to be at least one he likes. No, dude, I have tried. I have sat He was my neighbor for twenty years, oh nineteen, I

think it was, but close enough. And I'm telling you, I've known the man a long time and I'm just not a single IPA fan. Huh. I've tried several and he won't do it. Man, he won't do it. Well, there's an IPA there out there. Just you'll keep looking at We're gonna keep looking. Yeah, ah, man. I hate to report some bad news, but talk about some news that caught us by surprise. This is a wow. This left me and a lot of others in

shock. North Austin brewery shuts its door. Suddenly, Oscar Blues Brewery in North Austin is no moss no more. That's it. Wow, out of nowhere. No one expected this one. I was shocked because the announcement was we're closed. That's it. That was it. That's it. So the Colorado based crap brewer relocated. It was on Metric Boulevard. They've just put a sign on his front door which simply read we're closed, along with a message we have enjoyed being a part of the Austin craft beer in music community

and we thank everyone who supported our business along the way. If you're so interested in finding our beer, it remains available at retailers across the state of Texas. However, there's no reason given to why the brewery just shut down. It's not clear what happened to the employees. People had tried to reach out to Oscar Blues, however, we have not got a response. But the sudden closure comes after other breweries situated in North Austin has also closed.

Delbert's Brewing, which we were talking about during the break. Delbert's that was kind of like a Belgian inspired brewery. They did a lot of Belgius, completely Belgian inspired in it. It was inspired by the owner's brother, Dell if I remember correctly, traveled all over He was a world traveler. And in the early days of this show, like probably a year four and five six, they were sending us beers all the time. We're sampling on the show, a lot of them. I was a big fan of the other

Closer Doors. In twenty twenty two, fourth Tap Brewing shut down. This is also the latest closure one of Chad's favorite breweries. He's still just heartbroken about this one Circle Brewing, Closer Doors. Yeah, yeah, the the the a political non political brewery that was political. Yeah yeah. But so this is just one of the latest closures in Austin and it has a lot of people talking, a lot of people in talking whether or not has a bubble burst? Is craft Beard dying? Now? Correct me if I'm wrong?

But wasn't Did I read in the production meeting? Didn't I read the uh that Bobby Mullins was quoted in that article? Bobby Mullins brewmaster over at Sells Brewing Company. Let drop a name for Bobby mill Yeah, that's a good guy. Uh formerly of Armadillo l Works in which closed closed. They're off Bell Street, and I ran into him. I think I told you this, Chad. I ran into Bobby at a craft brewers conference. It was a conference about a year ago. And you know, it's always good

running into him because you know, you never know. You hate to see them close your doors, but it's nice to see them at another brewery and you know he's working, and he was at like a small craft brewery. The up and coming now was kind of latest I've heard. And then I saw him quoted in this article basically saying how, just like everybody else, they were shocked because sell Us is actually like a football throwaway. I just say, it's right down the street. Yeah, you can throw a football

from Oscar Blues to sell Us Brewing. And there's a couple other breweries situated in this industrial park of Austin. But yeah, there's just no explanation why. And a lot of people have theories, whether it's a lot of overhead because it was a ginormous facility, there's the theory. I mean it was so big. They took us on a private tour on a golf cart it's on a golf cart. It looked like the span of a couple of football fields. I saw big this. Now, granted, they're not only brewing

for Oscar Blues. I mean they're brewing for you know, Cigar City. That's right, because it's part of the Canarky Canarchy can what's actually here? Was it the brewery in Michigan, the Paren Paren Parrien I think Deep Elum Brewing. So there's a lot of under this umbrella that they were brewing for. But it's just it's shocking that all of a sudden, there's out of

nowhere. So you got to feel for the employees that hopefully they were given kind of a notice say hey, this is happening, so they were able to, you know, at least get some resumes going and some references. But I would hope that they didn't walk in and the doors were locked and they were saying, hey, the doors are shut, what's going on? Oh yeah, we closed. Well here's another one that I found very interesting. Another brewery closing. Not that we're trying to pile on, but out

of Brooklyn, Coney Island Brewery closed the doors there in Brooklyn. They've been slinging beers from their tap room there since twenty fifteen. Now not noted in this article, but if I'm wrong, somebody will correct me. But Coney Island Brewery was founded by Jeremy Jeremy Collen. Yeah, of hebrew. This was all, yes, part of hebrew, part of the jew brew. Yeah, he had the the Schmaltz Brewery. He owned Coney Island as well,

and then he sold it in twenty thirteen. Because it says here in the article the brand was born in two thousand and seven and then purchased by Boston Beer Company in twenty thirteen. That is when I believe Jeremy Cowen sold off the Coney Island brand to Boston Beer Company strictly to focus on the Schmaltz brewery line. And that's whenever they did death of a contract brewer and opened their very first brewery, because all Schmaltz beer and all Coney Island beer used

to be brewed by contract burr. Interesting. You know what now that you mentioned that, I think that, Yeah, that sounds right. Wow, all gone, man, So Coney Island another one bites to us. We used to play that song for another reason. But yeah, but that yeah, you're seeing these breweries close, and is this the time? I mean, we don't know why, we have our theories, but hopefully this isn't the sign of the times. You know, we'll see more breweries opening.

I don't know, but yeah, North Austin Bery closing his doors, Oscar blues Bery Company. Man, it's crazy. All right, coming up next hour. I got hold my beer and watch this all. This is so much more. We'll be right back and now your weekend forecast. One chance of beer. You've got What's on tap Radio? Almost heaven? All right, welcome to our number two What's on tap Radio? Blue Ridge? A lot the kids too. I know, I absolutely love Bob Dylan. This

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hating us and screaming at the radio right now. By the way, can we still say we're on Twitter? Do we have to say we're on I don't know. That's still an odd one to me. I don't know either, but we're I guess, and my copy still says Twitter. The producer has an updated to say x we lost our producer to Covid. Oh that's die. Covid didn't take our producer that way. We just couldn't afford to pay them anymore. Oh, well, that makes sense. That's why our

copy hasn't been updated. Well that makes a lot of sense. Chat, I've been one all these years, Like, why hasn't our copy been updated? How come our copy still says this is because, uh, apparently we lost the producer. I know it's still in the fact, I think the copy is still printed with all of our sponsors from pre covid and the ones that the ones that closed. We just have to go and cross them off every every week with a pen. You know what, Chad, you really

inspired me. You inspired me all right something, all these octoberfests you you've been enjoying, you know, I thought to myself, I still have a few October Fest beers over here in my fridge here studios. Now, I did tell you that I got some six packs for four ninety nine in the clearance, but I'm not gonna tell you which ones because I don't want the brewer to be listening get all bummed, like, oh, so I cannot tell you. I cannot confirm or deny. The beat I'm bringing right now

is one of those that I was on the clearance Aisle. Okay, but you are bringing in October five. Well, it's a fest beer. Okay, Well that count Okay, Okay, you're getting into technical It's not a margin, it's a fest beer. It's an October festoral kite, all right. So from Erika Heights, the von Wolfhausen. Did you bring that this year? No? I did. I did TV with it, but I never brought to the show. Oh that's right, Yeah, that's right when

you were on with h TV with Houston Life. But I've never brought to the show. So I decided, you know what, I need to make room for all these Christmas beers that I have. It's just stockpiled here in studio that I have no room for because I have all these october Fest beers in my fridge, So I got it. Just start consuming all these Octoberfest beers. So let me go and crack this one. Yeah, while you're cracking that open, let me remind everybody that we've opened up a couple of

tall Boys and a couple. We're on a third beer here now, and we're about to open a fourth pretty soon. But I have a stunt beer liver in studio with me. Keith Patterson Beer City USA documentary in television series, James reading all the cop No wait, no, sorry, doing chat. I am clearly studying and examining every roam the bubbles. Just hey, get ready, folks, he's got a side hustle with Hallmark. Watch this crap. This is a neat magic trick. Go. Definitely definitely a Pilsner.

Vienna Munich Malts joined forces in this multi German Fest beer. Hang on, I'm taking our ship. Yeah. Very crisp and easy to drink. I find that it was because I can drink this, I can eat more pretzels and it pairs well with a little sausage. Dude, every time he takes a sip, his taste buds are like a typewriter to his brain and he just spits out the words. I'm telling you. It's amazing. It is again amazing, and it's at four point. You teach journalism too.

I know my students are blessed four point five percent alcohome, I foll you ound and I said, narcissistic. There, hold my beer and watch this brought to you by the Ring Melt of ten Hacen Insurance Group. They'll cover you for just about everything. Yeah, my journalism, My journalism students should feel blessed because I'm their teacher. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, they'll cover you for Hey, James, bringing all the ten Tacen Insurance Group.

They'll cover you for everything except the libel and slander that you're throwing out right now, even though it's kind of against yourself. But all right, go ahead. You know Zest beer is the best beer according to the uh my taste buds here. All right, So if you didn't know this, if you didn't know this, write this down. Okay, I'll take it. I'll give you a second to write this time. That's thing. I got my pen, all right, got it? You can't park on the road,

what Nope, you can't do it. You can't park the road written down. Okay, go. There's a thirty two year old man in Michigan who was pulled over last week because he parked in the middle of the road. Oh, in the middle. I was like, wait a minute, I park on the road all the time. You can't pick it. Not in the middle of the road. Not in the middle. Now, I can't do in the middle, you know, like Tommy gets pulled over, Dude, tell me boy though, it's the Black Sheep. He's like,

usually a Black Sheep episode. Usually when I pull people over, they'll pull over on the card, but pull over on the side of the road. And he's on the media and you know how fast you were going? Oh no, seventy seventy five six, you're six miles. I'm transporting a fugitive here. And no, we just finished that, all right, go back

anyways. Anyways, anyways, the sky in Michigan parking the middle of the road, in the middle of the road, and he was It wasn't even a highway, it was a country road, but still it was a road, not a parking lot. And the cops approached the man and he asked him what the problem was, what what what's going on? I don't see the big deal. They asked him why he was parked there, and uh, what do you think is its sponsorble did? Oh you know what? I ran out of gas? I uh, you know, I stopped to

car, just stop stop, stalled on me. No. His his excuse was he was smoking marijuana and he thought he was being followed, and so he also admitted at this point that he had some meth in the car. Oh yeah, so the cops did, uh, what the cops do? They searched, and they found over thirty five grams of methan fetamine and other drug paraphernalia. And to be noted, there were some open containers in the car. Oh wait a minute, yeah, because you know you can't you

can't drive with a open container. No. Uh, that's the highlight of the story. The man was arrested and is looking at several charges, including possession of myth with intent to deliver. So your watched it. He was also also got busted for an open container. Yeah, I guess those charges got dried. Say does it say what kind of beery was Drake? Agg does not. It doesn't lazy journalism. It was lazy journalism. But I guess the methan fetamine trump the open containers. But yeah, you're a hold

my bean and watch this. This week is brought to you by renaldton Haagen Insurance Group, where they're unsure. Lots of people, but not a meth head who parked his car in the middle of the road and asked the cops what went wrong? Uh? See, Florida gave you the week off. This week we're picking on the old man. Take a break, Yeah, but what about me? Sit out and you'll have your day. Yeah, the old Mitton state gotta get highlighted every now and then. All right,

thanks a lot, Yeah, we gotta do it. One of Chad's friends. All right, we're gonna take a break. Still to come, Still to come. How Canada is a party pooper. We'll explain why. We'll talk about that. We'll be right back. Beer has hops. Hops are plants. Plants make salad, so beer is salad. Yeah, what's on? Tempardio, James and Chad talking about beer. If you're here in West Michigan and you have insurance needs, why not support somebody who supports us?

Ring all the ten Hacen insurance reach out to our buddy John Klunder. That's ringing all the ten hacking Insurance RTI Grand Rapids dot Com. All right, welcome back. What's let's have radio where we're hanging out cracking open a few beers? Why because you know it's not authentic if you have you know, you tell people you're gonna drink beer and do a show about beer and then don't actually crack any of these open. We're about ready to crack open another

one here at the Beer Logic World headquarters in drinking Emporium. Why because I have Keith Patterson here, who is more than just a stunt beer liver. But what else do you do? I mean besides come over here and bring beer and drink beer. By the way, he doesn't have to sit on the floor. He brought beer. We're gonna crack that open. What else are you? What are we gonna talk to you about? Well, I'm

a documentary filmmaker and my new project is called Beer City USA. But I gotta tell you, man, maybe I got into the wrong career because being a stunt liver may be the way to go. How do I get paid to do this? Oh? As soon as we figure out how to get paid. Don to do radio. We'll show you how to get paid doing it. Meanwhile, we're gonna crack open a beer you brought. This is right here, proof that the man doesn't have to sit on the floor.

Thank you, Keith. This is from Bell's Brewery, the Oberon Eclipse. Now, the thing I found interesting about this beer when they released it. It was Bell's way of saying, we're gonna go ahead and make Oberon year round. But my understanding is it doesn't taste exactly like Oberon. It's a little bit different. So this is the Bell's Eclipse. Looks a little bit darker than the normal Oberon. And I'm gonna take a sip here mm hmmmm. This first time I've had it, and I think I like it better

than Bell's Oberon. Out is citrusy, it's a little dryer. I don't I'm not a big orange grapefruit guy in my beer. I think I like the Oberon eclips better than the regular Oberon. Keith. Any thoughts on this, Yeah, it's my second time. I agree. I mean, I will always love an Oberon in the summertime, and I'll put an orange in it for sure, But Oh wow, you're that guy. This is a good winter option for sure. I'm in all right, you're round Oberon Eclipse

Citrus Weet. Thank you very much. Keith Stunt Beer Liver and we're gonna talk to him in the next segment about this documentary coming up. But meanwhile, James and I we've been going back and forth on this and the lawyers got involved, James. James is gonna get so mad at me for saying this. I wanted to talk about this one story where a particular type of beer may kill you. And he's like, you can't say that, dude, you can't do it. He's already you can't do that. No,

you can't. That's that's clickbait. Chad, all right, I'm gonna, all right, I'm gonna I'm gonna work on my script here, I'm gonna work on my delivery. Meanwhile, you've got to Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm gonna kind of piggyback off the Hold My Beer and watch this. This is a front runner for the Hold My Beer. And watched this which a meth head getting pulled over in the middle of the road and telling the cops

that he was smoking weed and got paranoid because people was following him. Kind of you know, beat this one out a bit, but this is still worthy to talk about. So this is likely to have some teary eyes at some wedding reception. I'm not exactly sure is who. But this is just days after the provincial police seized three hundred and twenty six cases of beer after

they were called to a vehicle break down on a busy highway. And this happened in Canada if you haven't guessed, but the LINUX in Addington, Ontario Provincial Police also known as the l NA opp Yeah you know me. But the attach man was the dispatched to a traffic hazard for a rental van that had blown a tire on the shoulder. And when police arrived, they found rim marks along the highway's shoulder, eventually becoming flatter, indicating the rim was

worn off and the vehicle was rubbing on the hub. It calls it a hub in Canadian but hubcap all right. They found the van still moving couch of Chesterfield. They found the van moving very slowly, about a little further than when it was called in and the rear left tire was beginning to smoke it from the heat, the police said, and the vehicle stopped and officers who went to speak with the driver noticed four cases of beer in the front

passenger seat area. Well, where else are you going to put the beer? I always buckle it in, make sure it's safe, safety first. The cases had only French language marking on the boxes, and the driver described it as evasive when confronted about the transportation about the beer from Quebec. A further search of the vehicle for liquor found the entire back of the van filled

with cases of beer, the opp reported. When unloaded, the final count was three and twenty six cases of twenty four beers of various brands with bottles and cans, A lot of Heinekens, a lot of Heineken, A lot of Stella, a lot of Stella. Dude, this reminds me the time we went to that one brewery. I don't even remember if we've ever said the name of the brewery. Did it was a b We did? No,

We never did. Okay, But there was a brewery and they they they had their October Fest beers and there were no it was there winter beers. No, it's October, the winter? Was it October? It was Octoberfest. I thought it was. I thought it was like a winter warmer type that that that also happened as well, So it happened, okay, all right. And then it was like you guys can take as much of this as you can take because we have to destroy it. We can't sell

it. And I mean we took I think we took like forty cases and my mini van was dragging. I remember thinking to myself when we took it, I was like, this is too much. And they're like, I'm sorry, I don't mean to take so much, and they're like, no, you need to take more. You come back tomorrow and load up again. We had gave it so much beer that the bumper was just scraping. Every time Chad hit a little bump, the shocks bottomed out. The shocks

did boy, the bottom nowt he went over a speed bomb. Just it was like forty cases, this is like four hundred cases. Yeah, how big is that van? Three hundred? I don't know, I didn't say. I'm guessing it's one of those you know these bands your windows spinner vans, Yeah, the four vans, and that's when the forklift can pull it, you know, drop a palette in there three hundred twenty six cases of twenty four packed beers. The driver eventually admitted that the beer wasn't purchased in

Ontario. He further admitted that the beer was for a wedding and not for his personal use. Right. See that's the key, That's that's what gets you. See, this is the difference between US and Canada. See, they have provinces up there, and we have states here and I can go to Illinois and I can pick up beer and I can drive it up. Oh wait, no, not for the purposes of distribution. Oops, Okay, maybe not. Yeah. Apparently liquor purchased from Quebec and transported to another

province must be for personal use only. Yeah, that's that's the same in the US too. You can't go because I remember taking a lot of beer to Texas and I was like, I think Abbott and Company said, and that's a governor said, yeah, make sure you declare that when you get to the border. Like, yep, yeah, we'll get it over. We're gonna right on that, yep. The driver admitted that it was for personal use and kind of hard explained three hundred and twenty six cases of twenty

four packs of beer for personal consumption. But hey, if you like to party, it reminds me of Smoky in the bandit. What do you need all that beer for? He's thirsty, dummy, exactly right. The driver was charged with unlawfully possessing liquor, unlawfully purchasing liquor, and operating on unsafe vehicle. So again, Oppc's is three hundred and twenty six cases of beer are destined for a wedding after a van breaks down on the highway. Can you imagine that phone call? Hey man, yeah, I'm gonna be a

little delayed with the beer. Here. I got a flat tire. Oh hey, hey, I got some help coming. Oh wait, uh oh yeah that's that's got a police escort to the wedding. I gotta go the l n A opp is here. I'll call you back. And meanwhile, there's, you know, a wedding reception, just like, hey, you know any beverage? Yeah, the way, the way, Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're gonna make it. I keep calling them and it goes straight to voicemail. That's right. But uh yeah, I'm pretty mad at

this guy. He could have lied. You could have lied how do you talk your way out of having four hundred cases for personal consumption? I got problems. I got a problem. I know my doctors have talked to me, but I got a problem. Oh that's what I'm just saying. I got a fatty liver and I'm trying to go ahead and nurse it. What what is this? I don't know? Or no, you could say, hey, I was born in the United States, and after the exchange rate, it's only like twenty cases. Yeah. I don't want to say the

big problem. I just say, hey, look, no, I love I love Heineken, I love Stella. I mean, what can I say? I got a new man cave. I got to stock the demand cave for my personal consumption. I'm I'm using it to make I'm using it to make marinade or make barbecue sauce. See he's not thinking you can definitely go the cooking route. I love this. There's so many things we can't say on this show, but yet we can give legal advice on how to get

out of some sort of commerce law for legal use in Canada. All right, all right, well here's the deal, folks, ladies and gentlemen. We're gonna take a break. When we come back, we're gonna talk to Keith Patterson about he's making a movie. We're gonna talk to him all about this documentary, Beer City USA. We'll be right back. After reading about the evils of drinking, we made up our mind. We're gonna stop reading. What's on Tap Radio continues with James Simpson and Chad Pilbeam. They're gonna

put me in the movies. They're gonna make a big star around me. We will make the Yeah, we will be on that TV show. All right, Welcome back to What's on Tap Radio. We have a very special guest in studio with us who has been training for this moment his whole life to be a stunt beer liver on What's on Tap Radio. But maybe more importantly, he's got another project going on talking about Beer City USA, the documentary and television series. Keith Patterson and studio. Thanks for hanging out,

Bud oh Man, Thanks guys for having me. This has just been really fun hanging out and drinking some beer and hearing you guys do your show. But if he doesn't bring beer, ladies and gentlemen, what's the rule? Mark it on the floor. Buddy, we get a trump. It is a rule we made. We've made We've made other people who were on television no less, not just behind the camera, but actually the face on television, and we've made him sit on the floor. But anyway, you got

a beer here, we're gonna go ahead and crack this open. We're gonna talk about this documentary. Go ahead and crack that open and pour some beer for us, and we're gonna talk about this Beer City USA. Now, if you're not familiar with Beer City USA, don't worry. We're gonna ask all the hard hitting questions and answer. Get the answers for you here. But tell everybody what we're drinking here, because you brought it, so you

get to sell it. Yeah. I brought a Bell's Best Brown, another beer that I like to drink in the wintertime when the weather starts getting cold, and that's what's going on in Michigan right now, so I thought it would suit the mood. Hey, Fire Marshal Matt, that one's for you, buddy. He likes the Brown Ale, same with Fred. These are longtime listeners and supporters of the show and they hate IPAs. So you got

to open a Brown Ale. I think, I think. Don't we have a contractual requirement, James, we have to open one brown Ale every quarter once a year, Well, just once a year. Okay, Well, there we go. We met our quota. We got it in. Just under the wire. It's almost December thirty. First, all right, speaking of getting things under the wire, Keith, talk to us about what it is you're working on. And first of all, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you sell it. I've been gone for twenty years. I've only been back

for a couple of years in Grand Rapids, beer City, USA. Where is this place and why is it called that? Yeah, well I kind of have a similar story to you because I was born and raised in Grand Rapids, Michigan. But I lived in LA for almost fifteen years. So I moved back about six years ago, got married, started a family, and yeah, just I was looking for a long form story to tell about the city of Ground Rapids, and the brewing industry was really like the first

thing that came to mind. Now we're furniture city as well, but talking about office furniture probably not as interesting as beer. Well, we used to be furniture city. We used to be the number one furniture manufacturer in the world, and that was our city's brand. But back in twenty twelve, Charlie Papasian did a national online poll to determine what was the best beer city in the country, and that first year Grand Rapids tied with Asheville, North

Carolina. And in twenty thirteen, we want to outright Asheville, North Carolina. Who's eve even heard of that place? Yeah, okay, so I'm kidding, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, all right, No, but it's it's something that that our the citizens Ground Rapids have really rallied around, and that is that is the brand that our city lives by now, something that like our local convention and visitors beer experience, gund Rapids really got behind and

marketing it. And even since then, USA Today readers polls have named us best Beer City, Best Beer Scene a number of times, including this year we just won Best Beer City again. How early what's the history of beer in Grand Rapids? How early does it going? Yeah? So, the brewing industry and ground rap Hats started all the way back in the eighteen thirties with a guy named John Penell. He was an English brewer made a hop ale and then followed by a lot of German immigrants, including a guy named

Christoph Kusterer. And one of the interesting stories that about our city is that when Anheuser Busch moved into town in the late nineteenth century with the invention of refrigerated railcars, they were undercutting the price of all our local brewers, and six of the largest breweries in Grand Rapids formed together to combat the influence of

Anheuser Bush and form the Grand Rappids Brewing Company. Wow, but our documentary is telling the whole historical timeline from the eighteen thirties all the way through the modern day home brewers, brewerania collectors, the Grand Rapis Community College brewing program, festivals like the Winter Beer Fest where I met Shad last night was fun. It was fun, absolutely, and the Proram Festival, which is put on by the Beer City Brewers Guild. Keith Patterson is doing a documentary Beer

City USA. And well, it's a documentary TV series. I'm gonna ask you about that, but what's your beer background? I mean, were you a wine drinker? And just said, well, I really want to talk about wine and Grand Rapids, but there's really no vineyards. Let's jump over to beer. Or do you have a beer background? I mean, were you a brewer at someplace and just decide to jump in, or what's your

background? You're doing a documentary, that's a commitment. Sure, Really, I've just always been a beer lover, just a consumer like most everybody else. You know. When I lived in La getting Grand Rapids beer was pretty hard to get for most of the time that I lived out there. And I remember when we started seeing like Two Hearted and some Founders beers in the specialty stores. It was pretty exciting. And and then we started seeing them

on tap around around town. And every time I came back to Grand Rapids it was the first thing that I did. I would I would go out and get a local craft beer. And uh yeah, just learning more about the industry over the last year and a half as about filming this, and I've met some made some really good friends in the industry and it's just been super fun. So, dude, in documentary, I can imagine there's a lot of resources. Do you have to go get funding? Are you shooting

this basically on an iPhone or you do you get the real deal? No? I definitely have a professional crew, and I'm a writer, director, producer, so I don't I don't shoot her edit. I hire those positions out and I've got a really great crew. But to answer the other question, you know, you can you can pitch it to networks directly and they would fund it and they would kind of have the creative control over it and

things like that. I really chose to make this independently because I didn't want network executives in New York or Rally telling me what Grand Rapids was supposed to be. So yeah, because then they can start taking out I want you to take that part out. I want you to take this, but you haven't creative control. You're completely you know, independent. Yeah, it definitely

makes it more challenging. I mean, we've been raising money as we go, and in the middle of a crowdfunding campaign right now and also seeking additional corporate sponsorships. But we've raised one hundred grand out of the three hundred grand goal and feeling very good about being able to meet that goal pretty soon. So everybody's got it there. I'm sure everybody's wondering the same thing that we are, wins the release planned, And I mean we've seen, We've seen

documentaries before. You have a plan, you know how this is going to get released? How are you going to see this thing all the way through? What's the goal? We talked a little bit about this when we were drinking beer before the show, but tell what's the real answer from the man? Yeah, our goal is to actually complete the series by January of twenty

twenty five. We're going to submit it to all the major film festivals, choose where we premiere it, and then partner with a sales agency for domestic and international distribution, hopefully on a streaming service. Now, do you worry since this is going to be so like twenty twenty five that it could be a little dated or are you just just shooting for that date? No, that's a great question, And I've heard people ask me similar questions before too,

and like why are you making this now? And things like that, Because you guys kind of mentioned when we were off air two the peak of craft beer may have already happened, right. We may be in a trough right now and it really started before COVID. I do think now is the right time. It gives us a little perspective, especially being on the other side of COVID too, which was really the big challenge that breweries faced since prohibition, so to be on the other side of that. Also, you

know, trends are changing. People aren't going out like they used to. There's new products in the market like Seltz's, which I don't personally care for. I think it's a fad. No one talks about zema anymore so, but smart all right, craft beer is here to stay. Beer has always been with us, you know, ever since you know, before civilization started, and it will always be with us. And the craft beer market in the United States has not reached the peak of its market share compared to big

domestic beer. So the future of craft beer is bright. There's an ebb and flow to everything. But looking forward to seeing what the future holds. So Keith Patterson, the producer director film Man Everything, the blood, the guts, the sweat, the passion behind Beer City, USA, film documentary television series on Grand Rapids, Michigan. What would you want our audience to

know about this project that we haven't asked you yet. Yeah, So if you want to learn more about our project and watch our sizzle reel, you can go to Beer CityUSA Dot TV, and we'll plug it on our social as well. We'll plug it. It's a great trailer. Yeah, thank you. That's right. And maybe maybe I don't get cut out of the I mean I might make the b roll. We did an interview at the Winter Beer Fest, which I thought was fun. Oh you're gonna be in

the show, all right, making the final cut. I don't know, man, all right, Well, all right, Keith Patterson, Beer City USA. Check out the sizzle reel. Look for it and if you're interested in funny reach out to him beer City USA or US. What's on Tap Radio? Okay, thanks for being on the show. We've got one more segment. One more. Don't you go anywhere. When we come back, we're gonna talk about some stuff, maybe even crack open another beer. One

more segment is What's on Tap Radio? Will be you right back and now your weekend forecast chance of beer. You've got What's on Tap Radio. Tantrik Brewing Company, located in Alegant, Michigan, proud sponsors What's on Tap Radio and located right here in my backyard. Chad Pilbeam, the beer logic guy, go in there and ask for free What's on Tap high five and check out the amazing beers Tantic Brewing, Tantik Brewing dot com, Tantik Brewing dot

com. Well, this has been a fun show and we're about ready to put a bow on the show, wrapping things up for the week. I want to thank everybody for hanging out for the last segment here What's on Tap Radio. I want to thank Keith Patterson Stunt Beer Liver hanging out at the Beer Logic World headquarters and drinking emporium here in Alegant. If you missed that interview and you're just now tuning in, you missed. First of all, you missed a lot. But thanks for catching the last little bit here,

and we are going to crack open another beer. To go ahead and do that. Keith's not sitting on the floor, He's gonna go ahead and crack this open. This is the big hearted IPA from Bells Brewery. He brought some beer. But I also want to thank Tantrick Brewing Company for bringing us this last segment. Tantrik Brewing Company just down the street here, I mean that's where Keith and I met. We sat down, we chatted it up. Check out the documentary series, the Sizzle Reel, also known as a

teaser Kaith, tell everybody where to find beer City USA. Where are they gonna find it? Yeah, you can check it out at beer CityUSA dot TV. There you go. Yeah, I'm looking at the website right here at watch the Sizzle support the project, the real all about the crowdfunding campaign again, that's beer CityUSA dot TV. Very cool? All right, James, here it is. I've you and I have gone back and forth on this. The lawyers obviously told me what I couldn't say. Oh, I'm

gonna disregard it, all right, to keep everybody happy. And now the legal mumbo jumbo, legal mumbo jumbo. That's a good beer. Names opinions stated by What's on Tap Radio and contributors to What's on Tap Radio are not to be considered as endorsed by this awesome radio station. You were urged to use your own discernment that's your brain for you dummies, and draw your own conclusions. Please drink responsibly. Cheers you want, Chad, So now I'm

gonna say whatever I want. Yeah, because it doesn't matter. We ran the disclaimer, all right. So here's what we were told to say, we were told to talk about a beer that may affect your health, a beer that may get you sick, a beer that may impact your overall well being or give you an illness. Now I'm to go ahead and say it. There's a beer out there. It might kill you, kill you, it's gonna get you sick. It's not gonna kill you. It may you

may die, you may die. Okay, and Cornell University has got my back. Okay, maybe they don't. We ran the disclaimer. I can say whatever I want. A study by scientists at Cornell University. That's a high falutin university of very efficiados, very educated aficionados who know what they're doing. Yeah, I got a two point seventy five GPA in the school communications. Trust me. I'm listening to what they have to say. But they said that there is a beer out there that is a breeding ground for bacteria

such as E. Coli and salmonella and also lysteria. Oh yeah, we talked about this before. There's a certain company I don't want to mention their name, but they had a product that had a listeria outbreak that was linked to some deaths. Therefore, I'm extrapolating their data. Jad, you just can't come out that. You just can't come the blue and just throw a bell on us and not tell us what the company is. What you don't want me to tell you what? You don't want me to just throw a

bell out there. Fine, I'll blow it up for you. Okay, I don't know. I'll blow it up for you. I meant that's what I meant, blow it up, not blow it up. Yeah, it's not a blow up. It's not a blow up bell. It's a blue belt. Okay. Maybe there was an ice cream company in Texas that had

hysteria and maybe some people died. And if there's a beer out there that has lysteria in it, and lysteria can kill you, well, according to microbiologist Randy Warrebo, he and his team have studied the growth of three types of bacteria E. Coli, salmonella, and lysteria in one type of beer and it is found to be a breeding ground in It's not IPA s Yeah, sorry, Matt, sorry, far marcial, Matt, it's all upset now. No, it's not IPAs, no pastry stouts. No, it's

not that. He the non alcoholic beer they attempted to identify the effects of the acidity storage, temperature, alcohol concentrations, the reproduction and the death of the microbial pathogens. Pathogens. Yeah, easy for me to say, I wouldn't have I wouldn't a chemist and I wasn't a biology major. I'm just reading the copy. Listeria died off in each brew. Okay, so maybe

it won't kill you because listeria died off. But non alcoholic beer that was at most risk for developing E. Coli and salmonella, and scientists have theorized that this is due to the lack of alcohol, and so now brewers are being encouraged to look at how they are handling the beer and how they're going to curb the bacterial growth in non alcoholic beers because alcohol serves as a way of preserving the beer and staving off any bacterial growth with The good news,

though, is that regular beer is immune to this type of bacteria. Translation, non alcoholic beer, which is on the rise right now, maybe has an image thing that they got to deal with. But the reality is, I have a feeling. Here's the reality. I think non alcoholic beer is gonna be just fine. Even though scientists say it is a breeding ground for salmonella and E. Coli. So regular beer not at risk. So low alcohol beer you're okay. Non alcoholic beer, I feel like you run the

risk. These scientists were paid off to say this. I bring this back full circle to our conversation about the fly and the beer. So now now that you know this, you non alcoholic beer drinkers, you may not drink a beer that had a fly that landed in it. Oh that's gross. Are you gonna stop drinking non alcoholic beer? I'll wait. I remember there are a lot of people that swore off eating in ice cream because of this listeria. Oh yeah, or not? They continue doing that. I never

did, because I mean, I love this blue Belt. He's the best day of ice cream out there. Same thing with the fly, the fly lands and my beer. I'm gonna drink it, thesterium, my blue bell. Guess what. I'll take my chances. Yeah, they clean it up and I don't see any problems with this, But you know, just put it out there letting you guys know. But I do. Before we get out of here, I do want to bring some information up. We have

an update in our bear story. There's a development in the saga. This is the so if you remember, folks, the bear started in Pennsylvania by going to an outdoor party, crashed the party, and then Mike drinking beer. Mike. Mike was like, uh h, you gotta get the hell on out of here, bear, So he escorting them out of the backyard and into the street. They Mike walk the bear right out of the party, and the bear was Mike was like, come on, Bear, let's

get out of here. And the bear was like, okay, I guess we'll leave. And then right as he was about to exit, he looked at Mike and was like, you know what, Mike, one more partying get before I get out of here. Swap right there on the ass scratched them all up. He's like, Mike. So then the bear was on his way and decided, you know it, I got to start hibernating, and I got to start moving my way south. It's getting a little cold

up here in the East coast. So he started making his way south, made his way to Georgia, where he broke into a house to enjoy himself some white claws. However, it was thirsty after it was thirsty. However, somewhere between Pennsylvania and Georgia. He got hit by a car something and

he lost the paw because he only had three paws. When he went to this house and drank three white claws, one for each paw, one for each claw, and then left that party and then made his way down to Florida to Disney World, where he got into the amusement park and into a tree. Well, they're giving away beer now inside those parks, are they. Yeah, they're selling beer there, Yeah, they were, And so they quickly escorted him out of there, and then he made his way to

a boat, a boat. He got on a boat which had a cooler full of beer. So now the bear has made his way to a Florida neighborhood where he was enjoying himself some trigger treating candy. And this bear decided to help himself stacking on all the candy left out for the trigger treaters. And here is a hilarious video where the kids react to the bear eating their candy, eat with the wrapper? What's the wrapper though? I think that sometimes what I used to established with the rappers? What? Yeah, I

know that. Yeah, the bear was just eating the candy with the rappers, and rather than the kids being scared, they just were amused by the fact that the bear was eating the candy with the wrapper on it. So that is your latest development in the bear story, his bears to a Halloween party and eating up the candy in a Florida neighborhood party. All Right, we gotta get out of here. We gotta get it here. But I do want to thank Keith Patterson beer City USA. Check out beer CityUSA dot

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